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Title: Brian now in the studio
Post by: Wirestone on October 20, 2022, 08:00:13 AM
Facebook photos of the big man shared by TomorrowLabs studios. Darian and Brian chatting by the keyboard. Band members on hand. Mertens conducting a small string section. All posted last night.

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Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: juggler on October 20, 2022, 03:48:15 PM
Wow... really?  I don't have a facebook acct, but that's awesome and wonderful news.   At four score, he's very much alive and has still got the jive...


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: send me a picture and i'll tell you on October 20, 2022, 06:08:35 PM
I’m not FB friends with Darian, but I can see posts from a few days ago on his feed, but nothing about this. Did he post them to a different page? Is it possible to post the photos here?


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: pixletwin on October 20, 2022, 06:17:24 PM
I’m not FB friends with Darian, but I can see posts from a few days ago on his feed, but nothing about this. Did he post them to a different page? Is it possible to post the photos here?

They were posted by Tomorrow Lab studios. Darian was only tagged in them. They are public, so I see no reason why they can't be shared.
(https://scontent.fslc3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/312465637_549701313821733_6702862678826354786_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=odGSQusM3zcAX81ntAN&_nc_ht=scontent.fslc3-1.fna&oh=00_AT_Rn-flWjA0V4FXO4IGUxUxQhpf4jtw0qcGtsmhCuOiRA&oe=6356F1B3)

(https://scontent.fslc3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/312377532_549701950488336_6767233745155866045_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=DlnSTC4sFM8AX8NpnzT&_nc_ht=scontent.fslc3-1.fna&oh=00_AT85uh4KTo5dzJwSn-2ALFuETydthBm3HLyLudigqWjsoQ&oe=6357A836)
(https://scontent.fslc3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/312315763_549702563821608_7639046093295305866_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=cQbE6357IJQAX_v0Ued&_nc_ht=scontent.fslc3-1.fna&oh=00_AT9Cu08eL9AKFztueKkNfO1LTU2YEb74pLm5-1XgwyTKIQ&oe=6356CB1B)
(https://scontent.fslc3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/312111584_549701520488379_1545080519196189650_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=3UQd0iDMQ1oAX9botnp&tn=StOqD7bchRTnFEL0&_nc_ht=scontent.fslc3-1.fna&oh=00_AT_2FIx6mRSR04iWoTnwuX45lMHoETE9aSPZU0NLmPMn9w&oe=63572868)


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: send me a picture and i'll tell you on October 20, 2022, 06:45:14 PM
I’m not FB friends with Darian, but I can see posts from a few days ago on his feed, but nothing about this. Did he post them to a different page? Is it possible to post the photos here?

They were posted by Tomorrow Lab studios. Darian was only tagged in them. They are public, so I see no reason why they can't be shared.

Thank you. TommorowLabs and Tommorowland pull up *very* different results.

Brian seems to have some kind of bandage around his right wrist.


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: Zenobi on October 20, 2022, 06:50:56 PM
Thanks a lot Wirestone and Pixletwin!

Here is the link to the Facebook page, with more photos:

https://www.facebook.com/tomorrowlabs.studio


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on October 20, 2022, 07:33:00 PM
I love seeing this! What a nice way to end the day. Thanks for posting.  :)



Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: Wirestone on October 21, 2022, 10:39:44 AM
My original post should be corrected now. Apologies for getting some of the details wrong -- I was running around yesterday and wanted to get it to everyone. Nice to see whatever is happening happening.


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: mtaber on October 21, 2022, 05:31:47 PM
Won - won - wonderful!


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: thetojo on October 22, 2022, 03:37:33 PM
Any word, rumours or innuendo as to what they are working on.

Has Brian done much or any writing lately? To get photos like this suggests an album to me, but maybe that's just wishful thinking.

Maybe it's a Strings & Horns sequel to At My Piano . .

Equally, it could just be a one off track for someone else's project, a tribute album or the like.


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: send me a picture and i'll tell you on October 22, 2022, 04:48:55 PM
Any word, rumours or innuendo as to what they are working on.

Has Brian done much or any writing lately? To get photos like this suggests an album to me, but maybe that's just wishful thinking.

Maybe it's a Strings & Horns sequel to At My Piano . .

Equally, it could just be a one off track for someone else's project, a tribute album or the like.

True, but the slightly–hyperbolic wording of the post (“new hit record”) suggest something more than Brian and Matt recording barely–audible backing vocals for another artist.


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: Zenobi on October 22, 2022, 10:57:16 PM
It's on Brian's facebook page, too.


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: Wirestone on October 23, 2022, 12:20:30 PM
More members of Brian's band are tagged on the post. Darian is at the keyboard, percussionist Jim Laspesa is there. I'd bet there's some sort of BW project going on. Kind of doubt it would be an album, but who knows?


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: mtaber on October 23, 2022, 01:55:30 PM
An album of any kind would be absolutely amazing! I hope, whatever it is, that folks are supportive!


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: Pretty Funky on October 23, 2022, 06:34:54 PM
More members of Brian's band are tagged on the post. Darian is at the keyboard, percussionist Jim Laspesa is there. I'd bet there's some sort of BW project going on. Kind of doubt it would be an album, but who knows?

Might be bringing back his annual Christmas song?


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: Jim V. on October 23, 2022, 09:58:16 PM
Awesome that Brian is back in the studio. I wasn't sure he would go back and do anymore recording and it's great to know he is still going out and doing his thing. I truly hope he is enjoying whatever work he is doing in the studio.


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: PhilSpectre on October 24, 2022, 04:11:16 PM
An album of any kind would be absolutely amazing! I hope, whatever it is, that folks are supportive!

Well, I certainly really hope his vocals are much improved on any new tracks. Based on Right Where I Belong from the LPR album and his most recent tour, I’m about ready to consider it game over for BW and time to retire.


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: thetojo on October 24, 2022, 04:51:38 PM
An album of any kind would be absolutely amazing! I hope, whatever it is, that folks are supportive!

Well, I certainly really hope his vocals are much improved on any new tracks. Based on Right Where I Belong from the LPR album and his most recent tour, I’m about ready to consider it game over for BW and time to retire.

Well the guy is the other side of 80. Most of his contemporaries are 6 foot under, so from that perspective, he's doing okay.

I've always thought of Brian as a songwriter/producer first, singer/musician second.

I think even in the early days this can be seen with Brian's 'side projects' and contentment to leave the band in 1964.

If Brian wrote the songs and his current band performs them, that's about as good as it gets at this point, so I guess we kind of agree.


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on October 24, 2022, 08:52:00 PM
I wish, wish, wish Brian would record “ I’d Go Anywhere”. A real gem
that didn’t make the Radio album.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7p0xG1t7MUA


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: HeyJude on October 25, 2022, 06:48:09 AM
I wish, wish, wish Brian would record “ I’d Go Anywhere”. A real gem
that didn’t make the Radio album.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7p0xG1t7MUA

Even with the reunion face-planting in late 2012, they should have taken all of the finished songs (and finished off the near-finished ones) from the TWGMTR sessions and put out a "Deluxe" edition of that album. If the BBs are really singing on them, those are the versions I'd like to hear, and released as "Beach Boys" tracks. I wouldn't mind just Brian and Al or whomever finishing them off and still releasing them as "Beach Boys" tracks.

Obviously, I'd like to hear the tracks in any form including solo if that's the only way to hear them.

It will be interesting to see how this new studio works involves Brian. I still sense he may well not really be able to do much vocal work, so I wonder if there's more instrumental stuff going on, or if they're working with older vocal tracks or something.

Really, if Brian is up for more writing, he should just bring Al in to sing the stuff.


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: Sam_BFC on October 25, 2022, 10:50:25 AM
Has anyone able to get anything close to a definitive list of unreleased material from the Radio sessions?

Aside from I'd Go Anywhere, I recall mention of a remake of She Believes in Love Again, and didn't Al try to get Waves of Love included?
It seems that there was a little bit of crossover between material considered for Radio that was specifically recorded for Radio, and material that was recorded for other projects and subsequently became or almost became part of Radio...Is it fair to say that Daybreak Over The Ocean is as much a part of the Radio sessions, as such, as Waves of Love?
Was Don't Fight The Sea ever considered?


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: positivemusic on October 25, 2022, 11:06:20 AM
An album of any kind would be absolutely amazing! I hope, whatever it is, that folks are supportive!

Well, I certainly really hope his vocals are much improved on any new tracks. Based on Right Where I Belong from the LPR album and his most recent tour, I’m about ready to consider it game over for BW and time to retire.

Well the guy is the other side of 80. Most of his contemporaries are 6 foot under, so from that perspective, he's doing okay.

I've always thought of Brian as a songwriter/producer first, singer/musician second.

I think even in the early days this can be seen with Brian's 'side projects' and contentment to leave the band in 1964.

If Brian wrote the songs and his current band performs them, that's about as good as it gets at this point, so I guess we kind of agree.

I feel like I might be in the minority here, but I think once Brian hits those higher notes, he sounds great.


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: positivemusic on October 25, 2022, 11:13:07 AM
Has anyone able to get anything close to a definitive list of unreleased material from the Radio sessions?

Aside from I'd Go Anywhere, I recall mention of a remake of She Believes in Love Again, and didn't Al try to get Waves of Love included?
It seems that there was a little bit of crossover between material considered for Radio that was specifically recorded for Radio, and material that was recorded for other projects and subsequently became or almost became part of Radio...Is it fair to say that Daybreak Over The Ocean is as much a part of the Radio sessions, as such, as Waves of Love?
Was Don't Fight The Sea ever considered?

To my ears, it has always sounded like "Daybreak Over The Ocean" was the same version from one of the Mike bootlegs, with Al's vocals dubbed in. I've seen it reported that Brian is on there, also, but I can't hear him if he is.


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: Rocker on October 25, 2022, 11:20:14 AM
Has anyone able to get anything close to a definitive list of unreleased material from the Radio sessions?

Aside from I'd Go Anywhere, I recall mention of a remake of She Believes in Love Again, and didn't Al try to get Waves of Love included?
It seems that there was a little bit of crossover between material considered for Radio that was specifically recorded for Radio, and material that was recorded for other projects and subsequently became or almost became part of Radio...Is it fair to say that Daybreak Over The Ocean is as much a part of the Radio sessions, as such, as Waves of Love?
Was Don't Fight The Sea ever considered?




We have to differ between songs that were considered and songs that were actually worked on by the Beach Boys (for example I am not sure if "I'd go anywhere" features any Beach Boys at all). IIRC Al did offer "Waves of Love" but Brian wasn't interested. The difference between "Waves of Love"'s and "Daybreak"'s respective status is that the latter was actually worked on (even if it was just for overdubs) - and released for that matter.
Bruce reportedly worked on a new "She believes in Love again" although I don't know if anything was recorded.
Mike mentioned early on that he was writing lyrics to one of David's songs (did anything ever come out of that?).
"Don't fight the Sea" was already released before as a Al solo single, I believe. But they shot the music video during the TWGMTR sessions.

Also let's remember that Brian and Joe Thomas got the deal for a new album from Capitol after playing them demos of their songs. So they - Capitol that is - probably expected those songs to be recorded and not a different project.

As we all know, Brian was excited to have his band again and started writing songs for a new album. The intro to "Our special Love" was written for a new Beach Boys song, according to Ray Lawlor. I could imagine other parts on "No peer pressure" were as well. "The right Time" sounds like it could've been a Beach Boys tune imo. But I don't have any insight into the writing history of those songs.


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: HeyJude on October 25, 2022, 12:56:39 PM
That bit of over-talked “I’d Go Anywhere” from the C50 documentary is really the only extant “outtake” as such.

As others have mentioned, “Waves of Love” wasn’t worked on. Brian wanted no part of it, and it was literally in the process of being released as a solo Al track during the reunion sessions. And “Don’t Fight the Sea” had been released in 2010. Both of these would have/could have been potentially good reunion album tracks, but Al had already released them.

Bruce supposedly re-jiggered “She Believes in Love Again”, with one story indicating he actually used some of the ’85 version as a basis (including his (Bruce’s) vocals), and Foskett re-sang the Carl lead parts. I honestly don’t think this would have ever made it onto an album. It kinda sounded like Bruce just used the paid-for studio time to mess around with something.

I strongly suspect that some of the Brian-Joe songs on “No Pier Pressure” could have and perhaps would have ended up on a second reunion album. But there were supposedly a number of songs worked on and in contention in 2012 for the reunion album, and I’m not sure any of *those* were used for “No Pier Pressure”, as in taking the “Beach Boys version” and taking off the BB contributions.

“Daybreak Over the Ocean” was used from Mike’s circa 2004 solo album material, and it sounds like they did a quick dub job where the reunion group (most prominently Al, but apparently including Brian as well) just sang the “bring back…” interludes. The rest of the song has the same Christian Love/Adrian Baker (or whoever) vocals sans any other Beach Boys. I’ve always thought they should have had Al sing the lead on Mike’s 2004 version of “Too Cruel” (the only Christian Love sings; not the later 2017 rereremake) if they were going to fly something in from that album. “Cool Head” would have been good too, but that also had already been released in 2006.


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on October 25, 2022, 04:56:57 PM
That bit of over-talked “I’d Go Anywhere” from the C50 documentary is really the only extant “outtake” as such.

As others have mentioned, “Waves of Love” wasn’t worked on. Brian wanted no part of it, and it was literally in the process of being released as a solo Al track during the reunion sessions. And “Don’t Fight the Sea” had been released in 2010. Both of these would have/could have been potentially good reunion album tracks, but Al had already released them.

Bruce supposedly re-jiggered “She Believes in Love Again”, with one story indicating he actually used some of the ’85 version as a basis (including his (Bruce’s) vocals), and Foskett re-sang the Carl lead parts. I honestly don’t think this would have ever made it onto an album. It kinda sounded like Bruce just used the paid-for studio time to mess around with something.

I strongly suspect that some of the Brian-Joe songs on “No Pier Pressure” could have and perhaps would have ended up on a second reunion album. But there were supposedly a number of songs worked on and in contention in 2012 for the reunion album, and I’m not sure any of *those* were used for “No Pier Pressure”, as in taking the “Beach Boys version” and taking off the BB contributions.

“Daybreak Over the Ocean” was used from Mike’s circa 2004 solo album material, and it sounds like they did a quick dub job where the reunion group (most prominently Al, but apparently including Brian as well) just sang the “bring back…” interludes. The rest of the song has the same Christian Love/Adrian Baker (or whoever) vocals sans any other Beach Boys. I’ve always thought they should have had Al sing the lead on Mike’s 2004 version of “Too Cruel” (the only Christian Love sings; not the later 2017 rereremake) if they were going to fly something in from that album. “Cool Head” would have been good too, but that also had already been released in 2006.


This is a one minute bootleg version with the talking EQd out.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7p0xG1t7MUA


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: thetojo on October 25, 2022, 06:51:33 PM
I strongly suspect that some of the Brian-Joe songs on “No Pier Pressure” could have and perhaps would have ended up on a second reunion album. But there were supposedly a number of songs worked on and in contention in 2012 for the reunion album, and I’m not sure any of *those* were used for “No Pier Pressure”, as in taking the “Beach Boys version” and taking off the BB contributions.

I seem to have a fair recollection that back in 2012 somebody - maybe Joe Thomas - was quoted as saying that when the Wilson/Thomas songs were being written, Brian was very clear about which songs would be for his solo self, and which would be for the Beach Boys. I guess this recollection is vague enough to be an impression I formed, but it was definitely based on something I read, somewhere.  :-\


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: HeyJude on October 26, 2022, 06:50:38 AM
I strongly suspect that some of the Brian-Joe songs on “No Pier Pressure” could have and perhaps would have ended up on a second reunion album. But there were supposedly a number of songs worked on and in contention in 2012 for the reunion album, and I’m not sure any of *those* were used for “No Pier Pressure”, as in taking the “Beach Boys version” and taking off the BB contributions.

I seem to have a fair recollection that back in 2012 somebody - maybe Joe Thomas - was quoted as saying that when the Wilson/Thomas songs were being written, Brian was very clear about which songs would be for his solo self, and which would be for the Beach Boys. I guess this recollection is vague enough to be an impression I formed, but it was definitely based on something I read, somewhere.  :-\

Joe Thomas did mention in one of the only interviews he did back in 2012 that Brian would earmark songs they wrote together as "Beach Boys songs." But I think he was referencing their work together back in the 1996-97-98 time frame. While this was interesting and a bit poignant, I also think this was probably somewhat of a malleable concept. Really, he seemed to be pointing pretty specifically to the song "That's Why God Made the Radio." While I think a number of the compositions on the reunion album came from circa 96/97/98 Brian/Joe material, I'm not sure how much was always only earmarked for the BBs.

I think, certainly by the time of the post-reunion fallout in 2012, most or all bets were off and I would tend to think they wouldn't be so precious about still holding back material and not using it in order to save it for another BB project.

And here we are 10 years later with no new reunion recording, so I'd hope that any good material would get released either as archival (at this point) BB material, or as Brian solo material, or whatever format.


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: Alex on November 13, 2022, 12:11:28 PM
That bit of over-talked “I’d Go Anywhere” from the C50 documentary is really the only extant “outtake” as such.

As others have mentioned, “Waves of Love” wasn’t worked on. Brian wanted no part of it, and it was literally in the process of being released as a solo Al track during the reunion sessions. And “Don’t Fight the Sea” had been released in 2010. Both of these would have/could have been potentially good reunion album tracks, but Al had already released them.

Bruce supposedly re-jiggered “She Believes in Love Again”, with one story indicating he actually used some of the ’85 version as a basis (including his (Bruce’s) vocals), and Foskett re-sang the Carl lead parts. I honestly don’t think this would have ever made it onto an album. It kinda sounded like Bruce just used the paid-for studio time to mess around with something.

I strongly suspect that some of the Brian-Joe songs on “No Pier Pressure” could have and perhaps would have ended up on a second reunion album. But there were supposedly a number of songs worked on and in contention in 2012 for the reunion album, and I’m not sure any of *those* were used for “No Pier Pressure”, as in taking the “Beach Boys version” and taking off the BB contributions.

“Daybreak Over the Ocean” was used from Mike’s circa 2004 solo album material, and it sounds like they did a quick dub job where the reunion group (most prominently Al, but apparently including Brian as well) just sang the “bring back…” interludes. The rest of the song has the same Christian Love/Adrian Baker (or whoever) vocals sans any other Beach Boys. I’ve always thought they should have had Al sing the lead on Mike’s 2004 version of “Too Cruel” (the only Christian Love sings; not the later 2017 rereremake) if they were going to fly something in from that album. “Cool Head” would have been good too, but that also had already been released in 2006.

I also remember reading an interview where Mike said he'd written a song with Dave Marks, but I can't remember if a title was said or not.


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: Jim V. on November 13, 2022, 10:07:46 PM
That bit of over-talked “I’d Go Anywhere” from the C50 documentary is really the only extant “outtake” as such.

As others have mentioned, “Waves of Love” wasn’t worked on. Brian wanted no part of it, and it was literally in the process of being released as a solo Al track during the reunion sessions. And “Don’t Fight the Sea” had been released in 2010. Both of these would have/could have been potentially good reunion album tracks, but Al had already released them.

Bruce supposedly re-jiggered “She Believes in Love Again”, with one story indicating he actually used some of the ’85 version as a basis (including his (Bruce’s) vocals), and Foskett re-sang the Carl lead parts. I honestly don’t think this would have ever made it onto an album. It kinda sounded like Bruce just used the paid-for studio time to mess around with something.

I strongly suspect that some of the Brian-Joe songs on “No Pier Pressure” could have and perhaps would have ended up on a second reunion album. But there were supposedly a number of songs worked on and in contention in 2012 for the reunion album, and I’m not sure any of *those* were used for “No Pier Pressure”, as in taking the “Beach Boys version” and taking off the BB contributions.

“Daybreak Over the Ocean” was used from Mike’s circa 2004 solo album material, and it sounds like they did a quick dub job where the reunion group (most prominently Al, but apparently including Brian as well) just sang the “bring back…” interludes. The rest of the song has the same Christian Love/Adrian Baker (or whoever) vocals sans any other Beach Boys. I’ve always thought they should have had Al sing the lead on Mike’s 2004 version of “Too Cruel” (the only Christian Love sings; not the later 2017 rereremake) if they were going to fly something in from that album. “Cool Head” would have been good too, but that also had already been released in 2006.

I also remember reading an interview where Mike said he'd written a song with Dave Marks, but I can't remember if a title was said or not.

"Stowaway." I don't know if it was re-written with Mike or not, and I also don't know if it was either recorded or even seriously considered. If Al's stuff and Bruce's stuff weren't getting serious consideration, I find its hard to believe David Marks was getting a song on a new Beach Boys album.


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: Bedroom Tapes on March 10, 2023, 08:22:58 PM
I think it'd be really cool if Brian did a "Wilson Sings Nilsson" kind of album.   :hat


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: All Summer Long on March 10, 2023, 11:02:41 PM
That bit of over-talked “I’d Go Anywhere” from the C50 documentary is really the only extant “outtake” as such.

As others have mentioned, “Waves of Love” wasn’t worked on. Brian wanted no part of it, and it was literally in the process of being released as a solo Al track during the reunion sessions. And “Don’t Fight the Sea” had been released in 2010. Both of these would have/could have been potentially good reunion album tracks, but Al had already released them.

Bruce supposedly re-jiggered “She Believes in Love Again”, with one story indicating he actually used some of the ’85 version as a basis (including his (Bruce’s) vocals), and Foskett re-sang the Carl lead parts. I honestly don’t think this would have ever made it onto an album. It kinda sounded like Bruce just used the paid-for studio time to mess around with something.

I strongly suspect that some of the Brian-Joe songs on “No Pier Pressure” could have and perhaps would have ended up on a second reunion album. But there were supposedly a number of songs worked on and in contention in 2012 for the reunion album, and I’m not sure any of *those* were used for “No Pier Pressure”, as in taking the “Beach Boys version” and taking off the BB contributions.

“Daybreak Over the Ocean” was used from Mike’s circa 2004 solo album material, and it sounds like they did a quick dub job where the reunion group (most prominently Al, but apparently including Brian as well) just sang the “bring back…” interludes. The rest of the song has the same Christian Love/Adrian Baker (or whoever) vocals sans any other Beach Boys. I’ve always thought they should have had Al sing the lead on Mike’s 2004 version of “Too Cruel” (the only Christian Love sings; not the later 2017 rereremake) if they were going to fly something in from that album. “Cool Head” would have been good too, but that also had already been released in 2006.

I also remember reading an interview where Mike said he'd written a song with Dave Marks, but I can't remember if a title was said or not.

"Stowaway." I don't know if it was re-written with Mike or not, and I also don't know if it was either recorded or even seriously considered. If Al's stuff and Bruce's stuff weren't getting serious consideration, I find its hard to believe David Marks was getting a song on a new Beach Boys album.

Well at least Al’s stuff was unheard. Why on earth did Bruce want to dig up a song that had been on an album and keep his original vocals from 30 years prior?


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: Awesoman on March 11, 2023, 10:58:38 AM
That bit of over-talked “I’d Go Anywhere” from the C50 documentary is really the only extant “outtake” as such.

As others have mentioned, “Waves of Love” wasn’t worked on. Brian wanted no part of it, and it was literally in the process of being released as a solo Al track during the reunion sessions. And “Don’t Fight the Sea” had been released in 2010. Both of these would have/could have been potentially good reunion album tracks, but Al had already released them.

Bruce supposedly re-jiggered “She Believes in Love Again”, with one story indicating he actually used some of the ’85 version as a basis (including his (Bruce’s) vocals), and Foskett re-sang the Carl lead parts. I honestly don’t think this would have ever made it onto an album. It kinda sounded like Bruce just used the paid-for studio time to mess around with something.

I strongly suspect that some of the Brian-Joe songs on “No Pier Pressure” could have and perhaps would have ended up on a second reunion album. But there were supposedly a number of songs worked on and in contention in 2012 for the reunion album, and I’m not sure any of *those* were used for “No Pier Pressure”, as in taking the “Beach Boys version” and taking off the BB contributions.

“Daybreak Over the Ocean” was used from Mike’s circa 2004 solo album material, and it sounds like they did a quick dub job where the reunion group (most prominently Al, but apparently including Brian as well) just sang the “bring back…” interludes. The rest of the song has the same Christian Love/Adrian Baker (or whoever) vocals sans any other Beach Boys. I’ve always thought they should have had Al sing the lead on Mike’s 2004 version of “Too Cruel” (the only Christian Love sings; not the later 2017 rereremake) if they were going to fly something in from that album. “Cool Head” would have been good too, but that also had already been released in 2006.

I also remember reading an interview where Mike said he'd written a song with Dave Marks, but I can't remember if a title was said or not.

"Stowaway." I don't know if it was re-written with Mike or not, and I also don't know if it was either recorded or even seriously considered. If Al's stuff and Bruce's stuff weren't getting serious consideration, I find its hard to believe David Marks was getting a song on a new Beach Boys album.

Well at least Al’s stuff was unheard. Why on earth did Bruce want to dig up a song that had been on an album and keep his original vocals from 30 years prior?

Perhaps for the same reason he thought the world needed a disco-fied version of "Here Comes The Night".  🤷‍♂️  And back in the early 2000's he claimed of recording with Mike a "Britney Spears-type" cover of "Surfin'".  Which to this day has (thankfully) never been heard. 


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: All Summer Long on March 12, 2023, 08:38:19 PM
That bit of over-talked “I’d Go Anywhere” from the C50 documentary is really the only extant “outtake” as such.

As others have mentioned, “Waves of Love” wasn’t worked on. Brian wanted no part of it, and it was literally in the process of being released as a solo Al track during the reunion sessions. And “Don’t Fight the Sea” had been released in 2010. Both of these would have/could have been potentially good reunion album tracks, but Al had already released them.

Bruce supposedly re-jiggered “She Believes in Love Again”, with one story indicating he actually used some of the ’85 version as a basis (including his (Bruce’s) vocals), and Foskett re-sang the Carl lead parts. I honestly don’t think this would have ever made it onto an album. It kinda sounded like Bruce just used the paid-for studio time to mess around with something.

I strongly suspect that some of the Brian-Joe songs on “No Pier Pressure” could have and perhaps would have ended up on a second reunion album. But there were supposedly a number of songs worked on and in contention in 2012 for the reunion album, and I’m not sure any of *those* were used for “No Pier Pressure”, as in taking the “Beach Boys version” and taking off the BB contributions.

“Daybreak Over the Ocean” was used from Mike’s circa 2004 solo album material, and it sounds like they did a quick dub job where the reunion group (most prominently Al, but apparently including Brian as well) just sang the “bring back…” interludes. The rest of the song has the same Christian Love/Adrian Baker (or whoever) vocals sans any other Beach Boys. I’ve always thought they should have had Al sing the lead on Mike’s 2004 version of “Too Cruel” (the only Christian Love sings; not the later 2017 rereremake) if they were going to fly something in from that album. “Cool Head” would have been good too, but that also had already been released in 2006.

I also remember reading an interview where Mike said he'd written a song with Dave Marks, but I can't remember if a title was said or not.

"Stowaway." I don't know if it was re-written with Mike or not, and I also don't know if it was either recorded or even seriously considered. If Al's stuff and Bruce's stuff weren't getting serious consideration, I find its hard to believe David Marks was getting a song on a new Beach Boys album.

Well at least Al’s stuff was unheard. Why on earth did Bruce want to dig up a song that had been on an album and keep his original vocals from 30 years prior?

Perhaps for the same reason he thought the world needed a disco-fied version of "Here Comes The Night".  🤷‍♂️  And back in the early 2000's he claimed of recording with Mike a "Britney Spears-type" cover of "Surfin'".  Which to this day has (thankfully) never been heard. 

Britney Spears-style Surfin’ is not a good idea. But I’m one of the rare fans of the disco Here Comes The Night. Carl is great vocally on it. They just shouldn’t have used the LP version - they should have used the single version.


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: HeyJude on March 13, 2023, 06:15:32 AM
Well, I mean, they *did* use the single version of "Here Comes the Night", on the *single*, which is what would have received traction and had any chance of it being a "hit." The track wasn't hated (by those who hated it) just because it was on the album, or because it was 7 or 10 minutes long instead of 4 or 5. And most of the vocals on the track aren't even Beach Boys, with Carl, Mike, and Al only adding supposedly one layer of backing vocals on top of Becher and his guys.

I think most BB fans were at peace with the track decades ago. I don't think anyone is angry about it anymore. Which isn't to say that it would have or could have or should have been a hit. It wouldn't, couldn't, and shouldn't. It wasn't hit material on its face, regardless of the artist's name. It was clear, whomever was on the artist label, that HCTN was pandering to something.

The BBs could have had a sort of disco-adjacent success in that era, but it would have to be something more like McCartney's "Goodnight Tonight", where it's clearly a melodic McCartney track first, with flourishes/accents of disco.


Title: Re: Brian now in the studio
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on March 15, 2023, 03:26:02 PM
I’m more annoyed by the idiotic monkey section and the strings . The rest of it is ok