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Title: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: GoodVibrations33 on April 25, 2020, 08:14:51 PM
Good interview with Al, including some reunion talk. He's always the one that breaks reunion talk first! http://chicagoconcertreviews.com/2020/03/04/al-jardine-beach-boys/ (http://chicagoconcertreviews.com/2020/03/04/al-jardine-beach-boys/)


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 25, 2020, 08:21:32 PM
Says they’ll play “20-30” shows next year. Interesting...


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: juggler on April 25, 2020, 10:13:39 PM
Gotta love Al.  He's always the first to break any significant BB news. 

I for one hope these 60th anniversary shows really do happen, and will likely try to attend if they do.  It likely would be the last hurrah, as Mike/Brian/Al would be all be pushing 90 for the 70th anniversary.

Hope this darned virus is no longer an issue next year...





Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: Shady on April 25, 2020, 10:32:04 PM
Seriously hope it happens, I'll be there


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: Rocker on April 26, 2020, 04:10:03 AM
I’ve got a Carl Wilson song I’d like to finish too. There’s a couple of songs that we never released that he sang on that I think should be finished.


 :o
Is he talking about yet another song? "Don't fight the sea" turned out such a great thing and "Waves of love" is charming as well.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: Tony S on April 26, 2020, 05:13:24 AM
Probably talking about waves of love as at least one of those songs. I actually really like that song I think both All n Carl do a nice job on it and the music is pretty cool too.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 26, 2020, 08:15:14 AM
I can see it now


ML :Hey Brian lets get in a room with just a piano like in the old days and write a hit
BW: Can’t. Coronavirus.
ML: But Brian that was last year
BW:Coronavirus
(Bruce adjusts face mask nervously)
ML: But Bri-
BW: CORONAVIRUS!!!

Reunion ends, Mike and Bruce give interview with Rolling Stone saying it “felt like being quarantined “ then tour with Eric Clapton.

:lol


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: UEF on April 26, 2020, 10:22:25 AM
Amazing that that interview has been online seemingly since the 4th of March and it's only been picked up here nearly 2 months later


I can see it now


ML :Hey Brian lets get in a room with just a piano like in the old days and write a hit
BW: Can’t. Coronavirus.
ML: But Brian that was last year
BW:Coronavirus
(Bruce adjusts face mask nervously)
ML: But Bri-
BW: CORONAVIRUS!!!

Reunion ends, Mike and Bruce give interview with Rolling Stone saying it “felt like being quarantined “ then tour with Eric Clapton.

:lol

Mike: See, I wrote the words "I'm picking up Coronavirus, I like Norton Anti-Virus"


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 26, 2020, 10:53:15 AM
:lol


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: Lonely Summer on April 26, 2020, 01:50:51 PM
I can't see a reunion happening in the current climate. A lot of tours are being cancelled or postponed. Yes, we would all love for this virus to go away, disappear. Some of us might even be swallowing Lysol now!
I know we chuckle at the thought of a 70th anniversary reunion, but I remember when the thought of a rock and roll band being together for 25 years seemed crazy. "A bunch of bald headed or gray haired guys in their 40's singing about school, surfing, cars, and girls in bikinis....how pathetic!"
If some of the guys are still around in another 10 years, if covid-19 hasn't completed wiped us all out.....yes, it will happen.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: Pretty Funky on April 26, 2020, 09:13:47 PM
I know Mike has said he will continue for as long as he can, and that’s fine, but I do think the stars could be aligning for some kind of closure. Bruce will be 79 next year and does he really want to be touring the same tired circuit to ever decreasing numbers? Maybe he wants out. Perhaps it’s time the name is retired and Mike tours solo if he wants to. It would certainly be cheaper for him with no BRI to pay. Let any member still wanting to play (Mike, Al, Brian, even Bruce and Dave) use ‘... of the Beach Boys’ in any tour publicity at no charge and be done with it. They have all earned it.
Brian’s health is certainly declining (and that’s being polite) and deserves to see out his days as he sees fit. While not agreeing with a C60 concept, if they have to do it again I say market it as a ‘Farewell Brian’ limited tour and let it rest.

However it plays out I’ll watch with interest from the wings but will sit this dance out.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: phirnis on April 26, 2020, 11:20:46 PM
Amazing that that interview has been online seemingly since the 4th of March and it's only been picked up here nearly 2 months later


I can see it now


ML :Hey Brian lets get in a room with just a piano like in the old days and write a hit
BW: Can’t. Coronavirus.
ML: But Brian that was last year
BW:Coronavirus
(Bruce adjusts face mask nervously)
ML: But Bri-
BW: CORONAVIRUS!!!

Reunion ends, Mike and Bruce give interview with Rolling Stone saying it “felt like being quarantined “ then tour with Eric Clapton.

:lol

Mike: See, I wrote the words "I'm picking up Coronavirus, I like Norton Anti-Virus"

Only took him five minutes to write that!


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: Summer_Days on April 26, 2020, 11:36:57 PM
Brian’s health is certainly declining (and that’s being polite) and deserves to see out his days as he sees fit. While not agreeing with a C60 concept, if they have to do it again I say market it as a ‘Farewell Brian’ limited tour and let it rest..

He’s almost 80. He looks like he’s almost 80. Don’t get the shovel yet, Pretty Funky. We’re lucky he’s still here at all.

(https://media.pitchfork.com/photos/5a5e47219f017b3394be97a1/1:1/w_395,h_395,c_limit/BrianWilson_688056170.jpg)

I personally don’t want another tour though. Let Brian rest, I agree. Just not In Peace. Not for a long time, I sincerely hope.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: The 4th Wilson Bro. on April 27, 2020, 11:53:22 AM
I love those guys – all of them.

If they want to do a 60th anniversary tour, and Brian and Mike can get along long enough to do a couple of dozen shows, I say let's Do It Again.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: UEF on April 27, 2020, 12:23:46 PM
I wish I had Brian's head of hair :(

2021 is long enough for virus concerns to possibly go away (here's hoping) and for a bit of musical personal training to take place, where desired...


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: juggler on April 27, 2020, 01:06:41 PM
I wish I had Brian's head of hair :(

You & me both, man.   Dude has tremendous hair for a guy pushing 80.   Amazing.  What were in all those Radiant Radish vitamins?  :lol

Must be a Korthof thing.  Brian has a better hairline at ~78 than Murry did at 50.  And, of course, the follicular challenges of Glee Wilson's boys are well known.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: Summer_Days on April 27, 2020, 01:36:49 PM
I’m going to be 41 in July and I’m happy to say I still have it all, unlike some of my fellow Gen X/Y/whatever peeps. ‘Course it doesn’t help that I look 25. I hope I have a full head of hair like Bri when I reach his age, I wouldn’t care if it’s all silver or white. Baldness is hereditary through your mother’s side I think so that would make sense that Glee’s boys are losing it while Brian still has it, and if they were still alive, so would Denny and Carl.

Anyway.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: Joel Goldenberg on April 27, 2020, 06:12:36 PM
I wish I had Brian's head of hair :(
A) Me too.
B) Alternately, I wish I looked like Jan Berry.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: Summer_Days on April 27, 2020, 06:20:50 PM
I wish I looked like Dennis Wilson. That I could conduct the ecstatic screams of women with the wave of my hair.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: RubberSoul13 on April 27, 2020, 06:30:20 PM
I know Mike has said he will continue for as long as he can, and that’s fine, but I do think the stars could be aligning for some kind of closure. Bruce will be 79 next year and does he really want to be touring the same tired circuit to ever decreasing numbers? Maybe he wants out. Perhaps it’s time the name is retired and Mike tours solo if he wants to. It would certainly be cheaper for him with no BRI to pay. Let any member still wanting to play (Mike, Al, Brian, even Bruce and Dave) use ‘... of the Beach Boys’ in any tour publicity at no charge and be done with it. They have all earned it.
Brian’s health is certainly declining (and that’s being polite) and deserves to see out his days as he sees fit. While not agreeing with a C60 concept, if they have to do it again I say market it as a ‘Farewell Brian’ limited tour and let it rest.

However it plays out I’ll watch with interest from the wings but will sit this dance out.

No matter what happens, I think one thing is certain: Mike Love has every intention of taking the name "The Beach Boys" to the grave with him. He's not letting go of that touring license under any circumstances.

I'd love for this to happen. 2012 was a magical year in The Beach Boys world, regardless of how it ended. The legacy deserves it.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on April 27, 2020, 07:00:03 PM

Personally, I don't care if they get back together again or not. Quite honestly, it would be a hypocritical mess with Mike Love demanding this or that or the other thing that would satisfy that clown. Mike has had his time with Brian and the others. Let him fade into obscurity with nutty Bruce and long may his legacy be as rotten in the future as it is now. Much to his chagrin, he'll go down as a plague, virus or pockmark on that legacy that he worked so hard to deserve.  >:D


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: Pretty Funky on April 27, 2020, 08:24:50 PM
I know Mike has said he will continue for as long as he can, and that’s fine, but I do think the stars could be aligning for some kind of closure. Bruce will be 79 next year and does he really want to be touring the same tired circuit to ever decreasing numbers? Maybe he wants out. Perhaps it’s time the name is retired and Mike tours solo if he wants to. It would certainly be cheaper for him with no BRI to pay. Let any member still wanting to play (Mike, Al, Brian, even Bruce and Dave) use ‘... of the Beach Boys’ in any tour publicity at no charge and be done with it. They have all earned it.
Brian’s health is certainly declining (and that’s being polite) and deserves to see out his days as he sees fit. While not agreeing with a C60 concept, if they have to do it again I say market it as a ‘Farewell Brian’ limited tour and let it rest.

However it plays out I’ll watch with interest from the wings but will sit this dance out.

No matter what happens, I think one thing is certain: Mike Love has every intention of taking the name "The Beach Boys" to the grave with him. He's not letting go of that touring license under any circumstances.

I'd love for this to happen. 2012 was a magical year in The Beach Boys world, regardless of how it ended. The legacy deserves it.

Then more fool him.  I recall he pays a set percentage then an amount over and above that depending on the income which this year may be zilch, and possibly next year. I wonder if he negotiated a ‘in the event of a pandemic’ clause back in 1998? If he is having to pay BRI whether he tours or not I feel sooo sorry for the guy. 🤞😂


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: juggler on April 27, 2020, 08:57:18 PM
Then more fool him.  I recall he pays a set percentage then an amount over and above that depending on the income which this year may be zilch, and possibly next year. I wonder if he negotiated a ‘in the event of a pandemic’ clause back in 1998? If he is having to pay BRI whether he tours or not I feel sooo sorry for the guy. 🤞😂

Per various lawsuit information on the internet, ML's original license "required a royalty of 20 percent of the first $1 million and 17.5 percent of receipts thereafter."  Mike's recent autobiography states it a bit differently.  He doesn't mention the 20% of the first $1,000,000 but rather just the 17.5 percent royalty and, according to his book, the royalty is based on touring revenue after expenses for lighting and sound.

In short, it would appear that ML doesn't pay BRI any royalty unless he's actually touring. 


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: Lonely Summer on April 28, 2020, 12:02:23 AM
What if Mike finds himself actually enjoying this enforced time off? Do you think there's a chance he may decide to pursue a more leisurely schedule once things return to normal (whatever that is)?
I also hope that Brian is enjoying his time off, and finding that, actually it's okay to be at home with the missus and the kids. I hope they enjoy having daddy around.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: Pretty Funky on April 28, 2020, 03:06:24 AM
That will be the case for a few artists I think. If the talk of immunisation in 12-18 months is correct then the likelihood of fans wanting to gather in venues holding several thousand for the next 2 US/ UK touring seasons is unlikely.

My son is a huge Springsteen fan and he said the boss has always liked the thought of going quietly. This might be his out.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: juggler on April 28, 2020, 03:25:19 AM
I just have a hard time wrapping my head around the idea of "no crowds"/"no events" for 12-18 months.  Perhaps an effective treatment will be developed soon. And even if it's not, at what point do a majority (or at least a substantial minority) of folks just say, "Ah, screw it. We're tired of living this way, so let's llve our lives & take our chances"?





Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: Tony S on April 28, 2020, 03:57:02 AM
I think the Legendary OSD said it perfectly above. Could not agree with him more


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: CenturyDeprived on April 28, 2020, 08:45:59 AM
The band known as "The BBs" played only a handful of additional shows after that horrendous pro-hunting/Trump fellatio exercise that Mike undertook in Februrary.  Obviously I hope this pandemic is not much longer in duration, but who knows how long this will all go on for. Point being, especially at the age of those guys are at, they should play every show like it's their last, and not do legacy-tarnashing actions like that. I mean, that's always the case, but *especially* at their age.

Can anyone imagine if such a reprehensible show had been the final show to the career of a band called The Beach Boys? A truly, truly horrifying thought. The legacy is precious, and as this pandemic has reinforced for everyone, life is precious. Killing animals is most likely what started this pandemic in the first place. I'm also shaking my damn head that a 79-year-old man couldn't be bothered to have the ethics or morals to do the right thing.

Other than 1983 or 1998, 2020 will definitely be the most infamous year in terms of touring in the band's legacy. Most shows canceled and the only really memorable show from the few that were played was played for the most despicable of despicable reasons, which even got fans (and official band members) across the aisle to revolt.

Anyway, Mike's behavior sucks, to be kindly, and I feel confident it is the reason why we don't have a heartwarming BBs reunion from different BBs members' homes happening right about now, the way the band the Rolling Stones reunited. But, Mr. "I'd like to see the Mop Tops match that" got Donald Trump Jr. bonus points in his back pocket, so it must all be worth it for him. Schmuck.

The sad thing is that Trump-lovin' Mike probably is sitting at home today, glad he played that show since this year will be a low-income year, because he got (blood) money while the gettin' was good.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: Summer_Days on April 28, 2020, 10:05:22 AM
I googled the whole Mike and Trump trophy hunting thing to get more info on it and as expected, everything I read (except Brian and Al condemning him publicly, right on) infuriated me to no end. Especially Mike’s statement about how “Trump has been good to us”, which I responded by screaming with fury and disgust at my iPad screen. I’ll not repeat it here, because this is not the place to talk politics. This is a place to talk about my favorite band, The Beach Boys. Each member added something indispensable to this band we all adore. Each one. I’ve had a laugh or two at Mike’s expense in the past (particularly in the hilarious Weirdest Mike Love Photo You Can Find thread, which I really miss, by the way) but I’ve tried to have a cool head about his antics. No more. I’m done with his bull$#!%. DONE.

I’m sorry. Carry on.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: Awesoman on April 28, 2020, 10:08:16 AM
I wouldn't be opposed to the band reuniting to do something together, but I wouldn't hold my breath.  These guys are all pushing 80, and Brian Wilson specifically seems like he might be in declining health.  Factor in the never-ending dysfunction and another major tour might not be realistic. 


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: CenturyDeprived on April 28, 2020, 10:27:08 AM
I googled the whole Mike and Trump trophy hunting thing to get more info on it and as expected, everything I read (except Brian and Al condemning him publicly, right on) infuriated me to no end. Especially Mike’s statement about how “Trump has been good to us”, which I responded by screaming with fury and disgust at my iPad screen. I’ll not repeat it here, because this is not the place to talk politics. This is a place to talk about my favorite band, The Beach Boys. Each member added something indispensable to this band we all adore. Each one. I’ve had a laugh or two at Mike’s expense in the past (particularly in the hilarious Weirdest Mike Love Photo You Can Find thread, which I really miss, by the way) but I’ve tried to have a cool head about his antics. No more. I’m done with his bull$#!%. DONE.

I’m sorry. Carry on.

I agree in general with what you're saying, the only thing I'll add is that I'm speaking of the show and Mike's Trump adulation only in terms of how I think it will affect the legacy of the band, which is why I see it as an on-topic discussion (with some obviously opinionated spin sprinkled in, because it's pretty much impossible not to). Wasn't meant to be some random political tirade unrelated to the band. But anyway, yeah I get it.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: Summer_Days on April 28, 2020, 11:08:35 AM
That’s been the biggest stumbling blocks with me appreciating Mike in the past - how often he has gone out of his way to tarnish the legacy and reputation of the band, which I think is precious. Their music will far outlive them, but how the band is viewed by the general public will always get in the way of making new, serious, adoring fans of that wonderful music. I’m not about to stand here and tell you Mike is alone in doing this. The Beach Boys themselves as a unit generally have stomped on their legacy and rep in the past. But Mike’s efforts go a far more than a step beyond. When this darkness ceases, assuming he isn’t too damn old to even get onstage, Mike will find other ways to make us fans and even his own former bandmates cringe. He’s not done yet.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 28, 2020, 11:18:05 AM
I googled the whole Mike and Trump trophy hunting thing to get more info on it and as expected, everything I read (except Brian and Al condemning him publicly, right on) infuriated me to no end. Especially Mike’s statement about how “Trump has been good to us”, which I responded by screaming with fury and disgust at my iPad screen. I’ll not repeat it here, because this is not the place to talk politics. This is a place to talk about my favorite band, The Beach Boys. Each member added something indispensable to this band we all adore. Each one. I’ve had a laugh or two at Mike’s expense in the past (particularly in the hilarious Weirdest Mike Love Photo You Can Find thread, which I really miss, by the way) but I’ve tried to have a cool head about his antics. No more. I’m done with his bull$#!%. DONE.

I’m sorry. Carry on.


Could not agree with you anymore than I do already


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: Lonely Summer on April 28, 2020, 12:05:19 PM
I had completely forgotten about the trophy hunting thing until you guys brought it up.

So why is it we want Brian and Al to reunite with Satan and Son of Satan?


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: HeyJude on April 28, 2020, 12:21:23 PM
The one factor that might warm *specifically* Mike to do some sort of reunion thing is that he's likely off the road for the rest of the year. Not only is this likely making him go stir crazy, it also means *no revenue* coming in.

It probably wouldn't be that hard to just pass around some outtake TWGMTR backing tracks, and perhaps some of whatever Mike has in the can, and make another "Beach Boys" album. I'm not saying this is likely to happen.

What a weird bunch of guys. They're all near 80 and you'd think they'd be more likely to do stuff at home/in the studio than be on the road. Yet, when all the tours are canceled, *then* we get mostly radio silence. We've had five minutes of smartphone video of Brian via Rolling Stone, and Mike re-purposing an "Unleash the Love" track with some overdubs for an online event.

I get it, the "rock star at home playing an acoustic guitar on Instagram inside his giant house" thing is pretty common online right now, and if not executed well can lead (rightly or wrongly) to internet scorn and ridicule (e.g. that celebrity "Imagine" video), but "Pandemic Prompts Beach Boys Reunion Album" would certainly be some good PR for the guys, especially in light of the end of C50 and the trophy hunting stuff. 


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: All Summer Long on April 28, 2020, 03:28:18 PM
I don't know if this article ever found its way here...but I grabbed this off one of the BB FB groups I'm on (can't remember which one):

https://kixi.com/the-beach-boys-mike-love-says-hes-open-to-a-60th-anniversary-reunion-tour-with-brian-wilson-al-jardine/?fbclid=IwAR3bkXVsh3s7L4G-mrnXsIlK7L_WKjqWYEELO40NfmptfrRBXNj--541MnI


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: Shady on April 28, 2020, 04:34:27 PM
I don't know if this article ever found its way here...but I grabbed this off one of the BB FB groups I'm on (can't remember which one):

https://kixi.com/the-beach-boys-mike-love-says-hes-open-to-a-60th-anniversary-reunion-tour-with-brian-wilson-al-jardine/?fbclid=IwAR3bkXVsh3s7L4G-mrnXsIlK7L_WKjqWYEELO40NfmptfrRBXNj--541MnI

Great to hear Mike is open to it


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: Toursiveu on April 28, 2020, 08:12:28 PM
I don't care about another reunion tour. Seeing Bruce doing nothing makes me kinda sad.
But another BB album would be great. Even if they have to record their songs separately. 
And if it's the last album of their career, they should include David and also Blondie for a song or two. Maybe even Ricky, wherever he is these days... But David and Blondie are always a welcome addition to anything.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: phirnis on April 29, 2020, 02:14:18 AM
I don't need them to do another reunion tour. I've seen Brian several times and that's good enough for me. Would love to hear Brian and Alan come up with some new music. Doesn't have to be a big production, just some nice happy or melancholy songs about stuff that they feel they have something to say about at this point.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: RiC on April 29, 2020, 02:51:57 AM
After Mike's most recent actions I wish Brian to never work with him again. I'd love to see a a big tour with Brian, Al, Blondie and add in David and Ricky too if they can make it. Mike's voice has been going downhill fast the last few years and Bruce doesn't do much on stage. There's really no point in my mind to collide those two bands anymore. Mike's band really has no assets for that matter.

The ultimately greatest thing would be if Brian and Al would take The Beach Boys name away from Mike and do a tour without him, with the name and all. They have Matt and Brian's great band. They don't need Mike and Bruce for anything.

Mike's statements throughout the last 5 years or so about Brian and, for example No Pier Pressure, have been degrading. It's pretty funny that a guy who produces horrendous sounding super-autotuned music who nobody cares about, mocks Brian's solo albums (which Mike has done all the way back starting with the first self-titled one in 88). It's just funny but sad the same time. Nobody needs that power-greedy egomaniac around. 


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: All Summer Long on April 29, 2020, 06:49:56 AM
After Mike's most recent actions I wish Brian to never work with him again. I'd love to see a a big tour with Brian, Al, Blondie and add in David and Ricky too if they can make it. Mike's voice has been going downhill fast the last few years and Bruce doesn't do much on stage. There's really no point in my mind to collide those two bands anymore. Mike's band really has no assets for that matter.

The ultimately greatest thing would be if Brian and Al would take The Beach Boys name away from Mike and do a tour without him, with the name and all. They have Matt and Brian's great band. They don't need Mike and Bruce for anything.
Well they have Scott Totten and John Cowsill; it'd be nice if they jumped ship if such a tour happened. Not that I think it'd happen, but didn't part of Mike's band attend Brian and Al's Beacon show?  I thought it was funny that Bruce attended too; the man claimed back in 2007(?) that he missed Brian and Al, but then he stays with Mike after everything broke down in September 2012.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: Tony S on April 29, 2020, 07:46:59 AM
Bruce has the easiest gig in music; likely very well paid, for little to any real work....0ther than constantly being on the road. He will never kill the cash cow(ML).


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: juggler on April 29, 2020, 09:17:58 AM
Bruce has the easiest gig in music; likely very well paid, for little to any real work....0ther than constantly being on the road. He will never kill the cash cow(ML).

Mike Love's book has a funny (and possibly true? who knows) anecdote about Bruce's hiring in 1965.  According to ML, Bruce was making $87 a week as a staff producer at Columbia.  When Carl asked him how much wanted to perform with the group, Bruce told him $250.  He meant per week, but Carl assumed that he meant per show and paid him as such.  Well, with the group playing a dozen shows over 3 weeks, Bruce was shocked to receive a $3,000 check.  And the rest is history.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: UEF on April 29, 2020, 09:29:50 AM
Bruce has the easiest gig in music; likely very well paid, for little to any real work....0ther than constantly being on the road. He will never kill the cash cow(ML).

Mike Love's book has a funny (and possibly true? who knows) anecdote about Bruce's hiring in 1965.  According to ML, Bruce was making $87 a week as a staff producer at Columbia.  When Carl asked him how much wanted to perform with the group, Bruce told him $250.  He meant per week, but Carl assumed that he meant per show and paid him as such.  Well, with the group playing a dozen shows over 3 weeks, Bruce was shocked to receive a $3,000 check.  And the rest is history.

Wonder if he's still on that contract? If he sold up his shares in the 70s, then... ;)


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 29, 2020, 11:20:46 AM
How much did that compare to the rest of the band?


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: Jay on April 29, 2020, 01:11:48 PM
To be 100% upfront and blunt about it, Brian at this stage isn't in any condition to tour, apart from maybe a few "one off" shows like he did back in the 70's and 80's. A new "Beach Boys" album would be interesting, but the chances of things going south are almost to high for such a project to be worth it.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: Lonely Summer on April 29, 2020, 05:00:23 PM
To be 100% upfront and blunt about it, Brian at this stage isn't in any condition to tour, apart from maybe a few "one off" shows like he did back in the 70's and 80's. A new "Beach Boys" album would be interesting, but the chances of things going south are almost to high for such a project to be worth it.
Thank you for a bit of reality. Mike is a road dog, and as soon as it's okay to gather large groups of people, he'll be back out there. He gives the people what they want year after year, and he's got a great group around him.
Brian is a completely different person. He always thrived in the creative atmosphere of the studio, but as a solo artist, his albums haven't exactly burned up the charts, so he goes on the road every year. People worship and adore him; his band is so good that it kind of masks whatever deficiencies Brian has as a live performer now. If he really has grown weary of traveling and performing, now is a good time to quietly leave the spotlight.
Al apparently can't get the higher profile bookings that Mike or Brian get, but maybe that's a good thing. I think it would be awesome to see him in the type of venue I saw Carl on his solo tours back in the 80's. I might even get a chance to NOT shake his hand, lol...but at least thank him for all the years of great music.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: roffels on April 29, 2020, 05:17:00 PM
I think it would be awesome to see him in the type of venue I saw Carl on his solo tours back in the 80's. I might even get a chance to NOT shake his hand, lol...but at least thank him for all the years of great music.

Al's solo shows are pretty cool!


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: juggler on April 29, 2020, 08:55:10 PM
To be 100% upfront and blunt about it, Brian at this stage isn't in any condition to tour, apart from maybe a few "one off" shows like he did back in the 70's and 80's. A new "Beach Boys" album would be interesting, but the chances of things going south are almost to high for such a project to be worth it.

It's all speculative at this point.  We don't know what the covid19 situation will be like in 2021.  We don't know what Brian's health will be like.  Heck, we don't know what Al's or Mike's or anyone's health will be like either.  

With that said, if the three corporate members want to do a show or shows together as a 60th anniversary "last hurrah," I say why not? It doesn't have to be a big tour.  It could be a tour of 20-30 shows that Al mentions.  Heck, it could be 2-3 shows at the Hollywood Bowl with Brian not even be "touring," just commuting from home.  I'd go see it.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 29, 2020, 09:29:56 PM
To be 100% upfront and blunt about it, Brian at this stage isn't in any condition to tour, apart from maybe a few "one off" shows like he did back in the 70's and 80's. A new "Beach Boys" album would be interesting, but the chances of things going south are almost to high for such a project to be worth it.


Gotta disagree a bit. We don’t know how Brian is doing right now compared to last year, and he looked sounded pretty damn good in that Rolling Stone segment . Really good, actually. A year out though they all could be in decline. We honestly don’t know. I do think there should be a final album together for all of them , one last tour, and then afterwards enjoy the autumn years and the fruits of their labors. Finish off the legacy on a high note.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: Awesoman on May 13, 2020, 11:24:38 AM
New Rolling Stone article about the 60th anniversary:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/beach-boys-60th-anniversary-reunion-tour-997685/?fbclid=IwAR1FuCqvB8OleXlX1-tog42wmdCganr1T0olEFiSrQAeJrX0tE-iPvLK5BE

Mike Love does acknowledge Brian's ailing health, but does not go into details.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: Emdeeh on May 13, 2020, 01:57:38 PM
Why wait until next year, when they could do a Zoom reunion now?  ;D


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: HeyJude on May 13, 2020, 04:06:32 PM
Like all outlets reporting on various forms of media, Rolling Stone is undoubtedly struggling to come up with content that isn't just reporting on what someone TikTok'ed yesterday. (Those covering the movie industry are struggling even more; there's only so many times you can analyze what's trending on iTunes...).

This latest interview is more of the "who knows?" stuff. Unless Mike and Brian are willing to cancel 2021 gigs to make way for a reunion tour, there either isn't going to be one or it's going to be a much shorter run, perhaps a single show or a few shows.

The most interesting thing in this new Mike interview is that he says he has talked to Al, though not about a reunion. Which means probably a phone call either to confer on company business, or a general "what's up?" call, that might be more possible since they're probably all bored.

I'm truly not a particularly extra fatalist sort of person (a spry optimist I'm not either though I suppose!), but considering these guys are all reaching 80, and that it will certainly be a long time before touring could possibly go back to the way it was, we may never again see a touring "Beach Boys" (whether Mike's or a reunion) doing 100-150 shows per year.

I don't know how I feel about Zoom-ing a semi-reunion right now. Brian's bit playing piano for Rolling Stone a month or two back was nice in that it was nice to see Brian, but he certainly still seems pretty frail and I'm not sure his singing is ever going to get back to even 2012 levels. Meanwhile, Mike's "virtual" band song stunk. They could easily get together for the novelty of it, but if that's the case, perhaps a group interview or something would be better. Or perhaps they could all narrate/host something showcasing archival BB footage or something.

If the boxed set comes out this year, perhaps they could do something to promote that.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: Pretty Funky on May 13, 2020, 05:16:48 PM
Like that idea Hey Jude especially with say a Live Box Set These guys could all put together a stories, memories, thoughts DVD to accompany the release and do it safely from home.


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: juggler on May 13, 2020, 08:58:07 PM
Mike certainly got his money's worth at Brian's "Danny Boy on Grandma's knee" performance.  He's been talking about that one since, well, forever.

His bit about "serious health issues" is a little worrisome.  Is he hinting at something beyond what's been publicly acknowledged?   Hope not.  And hoping that Brian inherited Buddy Wilson's longevity (91).


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on May 13, 2020, 10:28:43 PM
Maybe he was referring to Brian’s back issues


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: STE on May 14, 2020, 04:55:42 AM
Maybe he was referring to Brian’s back issues


Yeah, that song is awful




Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on May 14, 2020, 08:17:47 AM
:lol


Title: Re: New interview with Al Jardine including some 2021 reunion talk
Post by: Lonely Summer on May 16, 2020, 02:14:18 PM
I predict we will see a package tour in 2022, featuring the reunited Beach Boys, reunited Kinks, and a Beatles tribute band.