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In the song that Dennis Did called Never Learn Not To Love why did he want to do that song if Manson was Stalking him. Also what is the meaning of this song and Manson's song of Cease To Exist

Probably recorded before he figured Manson was best to be avoided?

NLNTL is cool. :3d Who cares if it's Manson-penned? You gotta listen to song's music & decide you like or dislike what you hear, not be fussed about songwriter's reputation.

Manson wasn't stalking him at that time - or at least not so much that Dennis got freaked out.  He was providing women to Dennis while living in his house.  Dennis arranged a session at the studio in Brina's house, engineered by Stephen, with supposedly no one else in the studio (although apparently Brian was in the house) with the idea of cutting a demo tape to shop to labels.  After pulling a knife on Stephen the session ended, but later Dennis listened to the tape and liked Cease to Exist.

My understanding of the song is that it's about losing your identity to join a group and follow it's leader - give up your world, come and say you love me, etc.

I think it was wrong for Dennis not to give Manson credit, he felt he had given lots of money to Charlie besides letting him live in his house and eat his food and drink his liquor for free, but still . . .

My favorite version comes from American Family miniseries. It was hilarious.

Manson may have been whatever Manson was (criminal, cult leader, murderer, patsy?) 
I think he also was a reasonably talented busker who came up with some good songs (Cease To Exist being one of them).
I can appreciate that while not necessarily appreciating the rest of what he was involved in. 
Just as I can still appreciate Phil Spectors productions, and Jim Gordon's musicianship, etc.
Even Lucifer played a kickass fiddle.   :violin

Agree.

Hitler was a crappy painter however.