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Title: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on April 01, 2019, 06:18:35 AM
I am simply amazed at how this non family member worked so well in the vocal blend for the Beach Boys. When Brian quit touring, it was Al that had the voice that most resembled his on songs like Wouldn't It Be Nice. Even in the studio, the lead singers on Help Me, Rhonda and You're So Good to Me sound like brothers, if not the same person! The lead vocals on I Know There's An Answer or Be Here In the Morning, between Brian and Al, sounds like the same person! Not only that, but Al in his lower register can sound a lot like Mike. How many of you, like myself thought it was Mike singing the lead in All This is That? So it Amazes me, that while Carl and Dennis have distinct voices, it's non family member Al that most resembles Brian and Mike vocally!


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: SMiLE Brian on April 01, 2019, 09:42:16 AM
Al’s voice was the glue the “blend” needed in the studio.


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on April 01, 2019, 10:16:39 AM
Al’s voice was the glue the “blend” needed in the studio.

Absolutely! I definitely think he was the best singer of the band in the 2012 reunion.


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: CenturyDeprived on April 01, 2019, 11:06:56 AM
  How many of you, like myself thought it was Mike singing the lead in All This is That? So it Amazes me, that while Carl and Dennis have distinct voices, it's non family member Al that most resembles Brian and Mike vocally!

Mind is blown. For YEARS since I first heard this song, I thought that was Mike. I just went back and relistened.
Did someone tell you, or did you figure it out? I can hardly believe it!


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: CenturyDeprived on April 01, 2019, 11:11:51 AM
I'm really curious about Al's vocal parts on All Dressed Up For School.

Is Brian even singing on that song? I feel like I clearly hear Brian singing the opening "dit dit dits", but could it just be Carl's voice sounding Brian-like?  Sometimes I think I have it all figured out with who's singing what, and then new facts emerge.

I'm just wondering why Al was chosen to sing the very distinctively Brian-esque falsetto parts on the choruses. Almost like this was a studio test to see if Al could pull off a very Brian part for when the song would be performed live on tour sans Brian, which of course didn't happen since the song's release was nixed.


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: Joel Goldenberg on April 01, 2019, 11:27:39 AM
Al’s voice was the glue the “blend” needed in the studio.

Absolutely! I definitely think he was the best singer of the band in the 2012 reunion.
By far.


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on April 01, 2019, 11:59:50 AM
  How many of you, like myself thought it was Mike singing the lead in All This is That? So it Amazes me, that while Carl and Dennis have distinct voices, it's non family member Al that most resembles Brian and Mike vocally!

Mind is blown. For YEARS since I first heard this song, I thought that was Mike. I just went back and relistened.
Did someone tell you, or did you figure it out? I can hardly believe it!

Wow, that really is cool. It sounds just like Mike in his 'Big Sur' voice. I always thought so too.



Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on April 01, 2019, 12:06:53 PM
  How many of you, like myself thought it was Mike singing the lead in All This is That? So it Amazes me, that while Carl and Dennis have distinct voices, it's non family member Al that most resembles Brian and Mike vocally!

Mind is blown. For YEARS since I first heard this song, I thought that was Mike. I just went back and relistened.
Did someone tell you, or did you figure it out? I can hardly believe it!

I don't recall how I figured that out. I know we have an official vocal thread, so if there were any doubts, it confirmed that it is indeed Al.


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on April 01, 2019, 12:08:28 PM
I'm really curious about Al's vocal parts on All Dressed Up For School.

Is Brian even singing on that song? I feel like I clearly hear Brian singing the opening "dit dit dits", but could it just be Carl's voice sounding Brian-like?  Sometimes I think I have it all figured out with who's singing what, and then new facts emerge.

I'm just wondering why Al was chosen to sing the very distinctively Brian-esque falsetto parts on the choruses. Almost like this was a studio test to see if Al could pull off a very Brian part for when the song would be performed live on tour sans Brian, which of course didn't happen since the song's release was nixed.

I hadn't noticed that! I will have to listen again. It's hard enough to tell them apart as the leads sometimes, much less backing vocals! Lol


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on April 01, 2019, 12:09:34 PM
One more. Al actually sounds a bit like Bruce on Looking At Tomorrow.


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: CenturyDeprived on April 01, 2019, 12:33:54 PM
I'm really curious about Al's vocal parts on All Dressed Up For School.

Is Brian even singing on that song? I feel like I clearly hear Brian singing the opening "dit dit dits", but could it just be Carl's voice sounding Brian-like?  Sometimes I think I have it all figured out with who's singing what, and then new facts emerge.

I'm just wondering why Al was chosen to sing the very distinctively Brian-esque falsetto parts on the choruses. Almost like this was a studio test to see if Al could pull off a very Brian part for when the song would be performed live on tour sans Brian, which of course didn't happen since the song's release was nixed.

I hadn't noticed that! I will have to listen again. It's hard enough to tell them apart as the leads sometimes, much less backing vocals! Lol

Al is really audible singing "ahhhh what a turn-on" on the choruses. Always thought it was Brian for the longest time, but now it's obvious it's Al upon learning it.


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on April 01, 2019, 01:07:38 PM

What an incredible voice indeed! Ha, and Mike Love fires him not once but twice.  :o :o :o


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: Jay on April 01, 2019, 01:12:06 PM
  How many of you, like myself thought it was Mike singing the lead in All This is That? So it Amazes me, that while Carl and Dennis have distinct voices, it's non family member Al that most resembles Brian and Mike vocally!

Mind is blown. For YEARS since I first heard this song, I thought that was Mike. I just went back and relistened.
Did someone tell you, or did you figure it out? I can hardly believe it!

I don't recall how I figured that out. I know we have an official vocal thread, so if there were any doubts, it confirmed that it is indeed Al.
It's both of them. They each sing a verse.


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: wjcrerar on April 01, 2019, 02:42:01 PM
  How many of you, like myself thought it was Mike singing the lead in All This is That? So it Amazes me, that while Carl and Dennis have distinct voices, it's non family member Al that most resembles Brian and Mike vocally!

Mind is blown. For YEARS since I first heard this song, I thought that was Mike. I just went back and relistened.
Did someone tell you, or did you figure it out? I can hardly believe it!

I don't recall how I figured that out. I know we have an official vocal thread, so if there were any doubts, it confirmed that it is indeed Al.
It's both of them. They each sing a verse.

Nope, same vocalist on both verses, both Al. Only difference is the first verse is double-tracked.


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: CenturyDeprived on April 01, 2019, 02:44:09 PM
  How many of you, like myself thought it was Mike singing the lead in All This is That? So it Amazes me, that while Carl and Dennis have distinct voices, it's non family member Al that most resembles Brian and Mike vocally!

Mind is blown. For YEARS since I first heard this song, I thought that was Mike. I just went back and relistened.
Did someone tell you, or did you figure it out? I can hardly believe it!

I don't recall how I figured that out. I know we have an official vocal thread, so if there were any doubts, it confirmed that it is indeed Al.
It's both of them. They each sing a verse.

Interesting. Who sings which verse?


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: Shady on April 01, 2019, 03:11:53 PM
Oh my God, Al's voice is incredible

So essential to that magical sound


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: roffels on April 01, 2019, 04:41:55 PM
He still sounds great live!


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on April 01, 2019, 06:45:18 PM
  How many of you, like myself thought it was Mike singing the lead in All This is That? So it Amazes me, that while Carl and Dennis have distinct voices, it's non family member Al that most resembles Brian and Mike vocally!

Mind is blown. For YEARS since I first heard this song, I thought that was Mike. I just went back and relistened.
Did someone tell you, or did you figure it out? I can hardly believe it!

I don't recall how I figured that out. I know we have an official vocal thread, so if there were any doubts, it confirmed that it is indeed Al.
It's both of them. They each sing a verse.

Interesting. Who sings which verse?

Lol! I had to listen again just now. No it's Al in both verses. But it's possible Mike is over dubbing on the first verse.


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: Jay on April 01, 2019, 11:24:11 PM
  How many of you, like myself thought it was Mike singing the lead in All This is That? So it Amazes me, that while Carl and Dennis have distinct voices, it's non family member Al that most resembles Brian and Mike vocally!

Mind is blown. For YEARS since I first heard this song, I thought that was Mike. I just went back and relistened.
Did someone tell you, or did you figure it out? I can hardly believe it!

I don't recall how I figured that out. I know we have an official vocal thread, so if there were any doubts, it confirmed that it is indeed Al.
It's both of them. They each sing a verse.

Interesting. Who sings which verse?

Lol! I had to listen again just now. No it's Al in both verses. But it's possible Mike is over dubbing on the first verse.
It's Mike on the second verse, and Al and Mike together in the first verse.


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on April 02, 2019, 02:06:51 AM
  How many of you, like myself thought it was Mike singing the lead in All This is That? So it Amazes me, that while Carl and Dennis have distinct voices, it's non family member Al that most resembles Brian and Mike vocally!

Mind is blown. For YEARS since I first heard this song, I thought that was Mike. I just went back and relistened.
Did someone tell you, or did you figure it out? I can hardly believe it!

I don't recall how I figured that out. I know we have an official vocal thread, so if there were any doubts, it confirmed that it is indeed Al.
It's both of them. They each sing a verse.

Nope, same vocalist on both verses, both Al. Only difference is the first verse is double-tracked.
Hey, just listened to 2nd verse & it indeed is Al! Fantastic. I used to think it's Mike but in fact Al sings 2 verses. It's veeeery subtle to catch. Wow, Al really can morph his voice into Mike's (& the other BBs mentioned).


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: Jay on April 02, 2019, 01:28:40 PM
I'm about 98% sure that they each sing a line. They always sang it that way in concert.


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: Summer_Days on April 02, 2019, 08:48:34 PM
Al sings the first verse, i.e. “Life supporting waves of bliss...”

Mike sings the second, “Golden auras glow around you...”

I always thought it was Mike on both verses. I’ll be damned.


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: Jay on April 02, 2019, 10:25:33 PM
Al sings the first verse, i.e. “Life supporting waves of bliss...”

Mike sings the second, “Golden auras glow around you...”

I always thought it was Mike on both verses. I’ll be damned.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on April 02, 2019, 10:38:16 PM
Summer_Days, listen carefully to ''Meant For You'' with headphones, the same mellowness vocally as ''Golden auras''. Mike's timbre is little bit lower in it than Al's.

''around you''/ ''omnipresent love surrounds''/ ''wisdom warming as the sun'' give subtle, but clues nevertheless, that this is Al *entirely* in 2nd verse. There's folkiness in highlighted bits, Al's got it in his voice.

When Mike sings mellow in MFY, ''Aren't You Glad'', it's like he sings poem, he gives his voice special quality, tenderness, affection, grace, elegance, even upper class, as if to change completely his usual signature ML voice. Al sings with affection as well but it still doesn't stray to drastic change.

It's best explanation by me. Hope it makes sense. :)


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: chewy on April 02, 2019, 11:08:22 PM
do we know here where al really was, when they shot the summer days/nights cover-


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: Jay on April 03, 2019, 11:14:34 PM
After really thinking it over, I think it might be Al and Mike trading lines in the second verse. For example, It might be Al singing "Wisdom warming as the sun", but I think "You and I are truly one" is 100% Mike.


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on April 04, 2019, 12:22:38 AM
After really thinking it over, I think it might be Al and Mike trading lines in the second verse. For example, It might be Al singing "Wisdom warming as the sun", but I think "You and I are truly one" is 100% Mike.

I wouldn't rule this out! They did often switch leads like this within songs!


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on April 04, 2019, 12:24:59 AM
do we know here where al really was, when they shot the summer days/nights cover-

I heard Al was sick on the day this photo was taken. Which is redicoulus because there were plenty of other photos they could have used with Al from that period.


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: Doobidoo on April 06, 2019, 06:09:03 AM
Let's not forget how alike Brian and Al sounds on ADITLOAT! The discussion I saw here on which one of 'em that really sung the last "Oh lord I lay me down"-part really blew my mind. I remember how the way Al sung "Brances" made it more clear it was him. Without that one, it would be next to impossible!


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on April 06, 2019, 07:17:02 AM
Let's not forget how alike Brian and Al sounds on ADITLOAT! The discussion I saw here on which one of 'em that really sung the last "Oh lord I lay me down"-part really blew my mind. I remember how the way Al sung "Brances" made it more clear it was him. Without that one, it would be next to impossible!

The way Brian sings in I Wasn't Made for These Times, 'sometimes I feel very sad...' sounds like Al as well. But it's Brian. Hut agree that 'Oh Lord I lay me down' is Al.


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: Slow In Brain on April 06, 2019, 05:11:14 PM
So I guess that a wall of Al Jardines would equal the Boys vocal blend ?


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on April 08, 2019, 06:43:20 PM
Here's another one. Though in Wikipedia,  it only notes Brian and Mike on lead vocals, the song No Go Showboat appears to be Al singin "White wall slicks with racing mags
She's just for looks, man, not for drags". And all the parts with that melody. Anyone else notice that?


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: c-man on April 09, 2019, 04:28:08 AM
Al sings the first verse, i.e. “Life supporting waves of bliss...”

Mike sings the second, “Golden auras glow around you...”

I always thought it was Mike on both verses. I’ll be damned.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

I second that. Mike is really "breathy" on his verse - you can hear him inhaling. That aspect is absent from Al's verse.


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on April 09, 2019, 04:47:52 AM
Mike is really "breathy" on his verse - you can hear him inhaling. That aspect is absent from Al's verse.
It doesn't quite prove it's Mike though. Al could mellow down in verse 2. It does sound like Al if you listen attentively, harken ears to it with volume up. Mike's voice/ timbre is lower than Al's, as been explained by me with detail in previous reply. Either way, I believe my ears.


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: wjcrerar on April 09, 2019, 12:45:22 PM
Al sounds less 'breathy' on the first verse because he's doubled by a second Al in the right channel. If you A/B them, including each isolated vocal on the first verse, the timbres are absolutely identical. Not once did Mike's voice ever sound close to that, outside of the spectrum of the Beach Boys all just having similar-ish voices. I'm surprised there's even a debate about this one.

Edit:

Here are the single-tracked leads for each verse isolated back to back - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1prMf7wIaLs__ubkdX54HZrBYQJmYyxQx/view?usp=sharing

And the vocal double on the first verse in the right channel - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Eakys8XeevsbWxpaIWTBfVcz1SJERkiM/view?usp=sharing

All three are clearly Al.


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on April 09, 2019, 01:45:00 PM
Quote
Not once did Mike's voice ever sound close to that
This is what precisely I tried to say, meant by previous replies. Thank you, salty. It shouldn't be debate, agree.


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on April 10, 2019, 10:56:30 AM
Al sounds less 'breathy' on the first verse because he's doubled by a second Al in the right channel. If you A/B them, including each isolated vocal on the first verse, the timbres are absolutely identical. Not once did Mike's voice ever sound close to that, outside of the spectrum of the Beach Boys all just having similar-ish voices. I'm surprised there's even a debate about this one.

Edit:

Here are the single-tracked leads for each verse isolated back to back - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1prMf7wIaLs__ubkdX54HZrBYQJmYyxQx/view?usp=sharing

And the vocal double on the first verse in the right channel - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Eakys8XeevsbWxpaIWTBfVcz1SJERkiM/view?usp=sharing

All three are clearly Al.

Thanks for this! These are great to listen to.

The voice in the first clip in particular has such a lovely, relaxed quality. I agree that it could only be Al. The gentle twist on the word "wisdom" has a distinctly Al-like intonation.



Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on April 11, 2019, 05:34:31 AM
While I agree this is Al, to say this is obvious is redicoulus! Now that I have listened to the Beach Boys thousands of times and have become more familiar with their voices,  I can tell. And once, someone told me it was Al on All This Is That, I listened again more closely and noticed that it was indeed Al. But not sure if I would have considered that on my own. I think it is also obvious to us hard core Beach Boys fans that Help Me Rhonda and You're So Good To Me are 2 different lead singers. But I guarantee most casual listeners probably think they are both Brian.


Title: Re: The Voice of Al Jardine
Post by: monkeytree5 on April 25, 2019, 08:30:47 AM
Al sounds less 'breathy' on the first verse because he's doubled by a second Al in the right channel. If you A/B them, including each isolated vocal on the first verse, the timbres are absolutely identical. Not once did Mike's voice ever sound close to that, outside of the spectrum of the Beach Boys all just having similar-ish voices. I'm surprised there's even a debate about this one.

Edit:

Here are the single-tracked leads for each verse isolated back to back - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1prMf7wIaLs__ubkdX54HZrBYQJmYyxQx/view?usp=sharing

And the vocal double on the first verse in the right channel - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Eakys8XeevsbWxpaIWTBfVcz1SJERkiM/view?usp=sharing

All three are clearly Al.

Wow!  This is the reason I visit this site!  There's always a new vocal surprise waiting to be had when listening close to the Beach Boys.  The last one that wow-ed me was learning about Brian's little brief lead vocal parts on Good Vibrations, and now this one.  I hadn't even thought about it being Al, since this type of vocal is usually reserved for Mike's timbre.  I wouldn't have swore it, I just didn't even consider it! With the music it's still a tiny bit vague, but dang it if your vocal clips leave no doubt that we've got Al on the low end for all these parts.