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Title: Smile Songs Used In Other Albums
Post by: Seagull Merlin on February 13, 2019, 02:01:53 PM
When Smile ultimately wasn't released what material in various forms appeared on other Beach Boys albums?

Off the top of my head,

Smiley Smile
Heroes and Villains
Vegetables
Fall Breaks
Good Vibrations
Wind Chimes
Wonderful
She's Going Bald

Wild Honey
Mama Says

Friends
Child Is The Father (in little bird)

20/20
Work Shop (Do it Again)
Our Prayer
Cabinessence

Sunflower
Cool Cool Water

Surf's Up
Surf's Up

Are there any songs I'm missing? It's just interesting to me to see how many things were still released in some shape or form over the years after Smile



Title: Re: Smile Songs Used In Other Albums
Post by: bossaroo on February 14, 2019, 12:02:16 PM
With Me Tonight was originally a SMiLE recording wasn't it?

there's also the section of Look that ended up in Good Vibrations

maybe a stretch but I hear a little Love to Say Dada in Aren't You Glad


Title: Re: Smile Songs Used In Other Albums
Post by: CenturyDeprived on February 14, 2019, 12:09:07 PM
As late as 1980, "Goin' On" used the vocal ascending melody from Heroes & Villains.


Title: Re: Smile Songs Used In Other Albums
Post by: SBonilla on February 14, 2019, 12:38:01 PM
As late as 1980, "Goin' On" used the vocal ascending melody from Heroes & Villains.

That musical section was first used in ALL DRESSED UP FOR SCHOOL.

On each iteration the melody and chord changes were 'condensed.'  On Dressed Up, the changes occur every two counts. In Heroes, the changes happen on every count. On Going On, the chords change on a succession of triplets.

That's decent mileage.


Title: Re: Smile Songs Used In Other Albums
Post by: Willy Wilson on February 14, 2019, 02:36:47 PM
I hear the first movement of 'Surf's Up' in the verse backing track of 'Little Bird'. Actually 'Little Bird' has a lot of SMiLE-ish elements throughout.

Also 'Heroes & Villains' in the backing track of 'I Can Hear Music'.


Title: Re: Smile Songs Used In Other Albums
Post by: wjcrerar on February 14, 2019, 03:04:34 PM
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Title: Re: Smile Songs Used In Other Albums
Post by: wjcrerar on February 14, 2019, 03:09:11 PM
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Title: Re: Smile Songs Used In Other Albums
Post by: Seagull Merlin on February 14, 2019, 06:17:14 PM
The Heroes and Villains (or River Deep Mountain High) bassline briefly shows up in the bridge of Be Here in the Morning Darling, the arrangement of the Wake the World verses borrows from Do You Like Worms's rhythms, the melody of Whistle In is loosely adapted from "mahalo lu lei, mahalo lu la", the horn break in Time to Get Alone sounds like it's building on some ideas from Look. Had to Phone Ya has shades of LTSDD/CCW in the chord progression.

Yeah the whistling during the alternate time to get alone sounds an awful lot like Look for sure


Title: Re: Smile Songs Used In Other Albums
Post by: terrei on February 18, 2019, 11:24:13 PM
I hear Do You Like Worms in She Believes in Love Again and some I'm in Great Shape in Pitter Patter.

Yeah you might think that's a stretch, but I bet you never realized that each of those songs have a tonic chord.


Title: Re: Smile Songs Used In Other Albums
Post by: hideyotsuburaya on February 19, 2019, 07:09:49 AM
beach boys song chords are a well-known tonic for what ails 'ya.  that's a given (for fans)