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Title: David Marks Arrested
Post by: Pretty Funky on July 28, 2018, 01:43:27 AM
OMG!


http://www.tmz.com/2018/07/28/beach-boys-david-marks-wife-arrested-domestic-dispute/

BEACH BOYS' DAVID MARKS
HE AND WIFE ARRESTED
... In Domestic Dispute

No good vibrations here -- longtime Beach Boys member David Marks was arrested in a domestic dispute with his wife, but it sounds like she was the instigator ... according to law enforcement.
We're told police responded to a dispute earlier this month in the San Fernando Valley between David and his wife, Carrieann Marks. After investigating, cops placed both David and Carrieann in cuffs and hauled them off to jail.

David was arrested and booked for resisting, delaying or obstructing an officer -- a misdemeanor -- and Carrieann got busted for domestic violence against a spouse ... also a misdemeanor. They didn't look too happy in their mug shots ... usually no one is.
The details of the incident in question remain unclear.
However, Carrieann tells TMZ that the whole thing was a misunderstanding, and "we are happier than ever." She says they have plans to celebrate David's 70th birthday in the South of France next month -- and neither have any plans of pressing charges.


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 28, 2018, 08:19:16 AM
Holy sh*t

http://m.tmz.com/#!article/2018/07/28/beach-boys-david-marks-wife-arrested-domestic-dispute/


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: NateRuvin on July 28, 2018, 08:31:15 AM
I wonder if this will have any effect on the reunion Q&A??

Nothing is ever simple in the BBs world...


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: Shady on July 28, 2018, 09:07:24 AM
Seems like everything is ok now


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: Gerry on July 28, 2018, 10:36:55 AM
Does anybody really give a sh*t what Marks would have to say in a Q&A. He hasn't been with the group since 1963. He was only brought back into the group because Carl died.


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 28, 2018, 11:15:57 AM
Wow... that was pretty harsh


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: the captain on July 28, 2018, 11:29:16 AM
Does anybody really give a sh*t what Marks would have to say in a Q&A. He hasn't been with the group since 1963. He was only brought back into the group because Carl died.

I’d imagine far more people give a sh*t about what Beach Boy David Marks has to say in a Q&A than do what some random poster—you, for instance—has to say on a Beach Boys message board.


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: You Kane, You Commanded, You Conquered on July 28, 2018, 12:25:08 PM
Does anybody really give a sh*t what Marks would have to say in a Q&A. He hasn't been with the group since 1963. He was only brought back into the group because Carl died.
Why are you so fucking negative?


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: feelintheflows on July 28, 2018, 12:43:12 PM
Once a beach boy always a beach boy. So yes we give a sh*t.


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Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: Gerry on July 28, 2018, 01:35:53 PM
Does anybody really give a sh*t what Marks would have to say in a Q&A. He hasn't been with the group since 1963. He was only brought back into the group because Carl died.

I’d imagine far more people give a sh*t about what Beach Boy David Marks has to say in a Q&A than do what some random poster—you, for instance—has to say on a Beach Boys message board.
Well let's see what my credentials are : first saw the BB's live in 1969, have met and spent a modest amount of time with all six Beach Boys, co-sponsored the first two Beach Boy conventions in the San Francisco Bay area, seen the original Beach Boys over forty times in concert and spent thousands of dollars regarding my obsession with Brian and the boys. So yeah , I'm a random poster but I think that my opinion matters and carries some weight. Oh, and I actually use my real name when I post.


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: the captain on July 28, 2018, 01:50:39 PM
Credentials? There are no credentials. Being old isn't a credential, it's a biological misfortune. And in this case, it's no advantage over the person in question, who remains a Beach Boy.

David Marks: Beach Boy.

Gerry: real-name-using old person whose fandom means he met some Beach Boys.

Shall we change our calculus as to whom most people would rather hear from? Or does the point stand? Now granted, I could bolster my argument by noting the fact of which many a poster is well aware--that my name is Luther (gasp! His credibility grows exponentially by this irrelevance that apparently tickles oldsters!)--but I don't think it's especially important.

You're a random poster. Your opinion carries no weight beyond that of any other random poster (such as myself), which is far, far less that of a Beach Boy. Such as David Marks.


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: Toursiveu on July 28, 2018, 01:59:26 PM
David actually looks good on his mugshot.


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: Gerry on July 28, 2018, 02:10:40 PM
Well Capn Luther my comment regarding David Marks stands. Oh, and I'm not really that old pal.


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: the captain on July 28, 2018, 02:20:37 PM
If you’re not old, you ought not use longevity for your claims to relevance.

And we’re not pals.


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 28, 2018, 02:55:00 PM
Well Capn Luther my comment regarding David Marks stands. Oh, and I'm not really that old pal.

It may stand, but has been proven incorrect by the fact that responses show that there are people who ,in fact, DO care that a musician who played on the first four Beach Boys albums and on the reunion tour may or may not participate in a Beach Boys Q&A. Now if you had merely stated that YOU didn’t care , that’d have been a different story.  If anyone claims to speak for everyone they open themselves up to criticism if someone disagrees.


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: Gerry on July 28, 2018, 03:08:26 PM


And we’re not pals.
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I didn't use longevity, I simply stated the facts of my fandom. And you're right we are not pals


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: the captain on July 28, 2018, 04:16:13 PM
By trying to claim (semi-) early fandom with your reference to first show, you’re appealing to longevity as some silly evidence of fandom. Credentials, you cutely called it. As if having seen your first show in nineteen-this topped someone whose first was nineteen- (or twenty-) that. But it’s certainly meant to imply that being there early somehow matters. Which a) it doesn’t and b) would indeed make you old.

At least you can rest comfortably in your mastery of message-board quoting. Except, awww.

It’s not a great day for you, real-name Gerry. But never fear, I’m sure legions of fans are clamoring to hear what you have to say over, y’know, a Beach Boy.


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: HeyJude on July 28, 2018, 04:18:37 PM
Does anybody really give a sh*t what Marks would have to say in a Q&A. He hasn't been with the group since 1963. He was only brought back into the group because Carl died.

Not actually true. If you read the Stebbins book, David was actually brought in with an eye towards replacing Al. His entrance soon after Carl left the road was largely coincidental.


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 28, 2018, 04:34:19 PM
Time to add “pal” to the Cap’s signature? ;D


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 28, 2018, 04:37:25 PM
Does anybody really give a sh*t what Marks would have to say in a Q&A. He hasn't been with the group since 1963. He was only brought back into the group because Carl died.

Not actually true. If you read the Stebbins book, David was actually brought in with an eye towards replacing Al. His entrance soon after Carl left the road was largely coincidental.

This is correct


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: Gerry on July 28, 2018, 04:38:14 PM
Well unlike you Luther I don't rate my days by how  things go on a Beach Boy message board.


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: the captain on July 28, 2018, 04:45:30 PM
I’m afraid you’re projecting. But I suppose now that your original point has been laughed down, you haven’t got much else to say. Enjoy the rest of your weekend, pal.


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: Jon Stebbins on July 28, 2018, 05:45:38 PM
How ridiculous is it to say "does anybody really give a sh*t" about hearing from a guy who not only was IN THE BAND as they rose to fame, but lived and grew up with the Wilsons beginning in 1957, and saw, first hand how Brian developed his musical abilities, and directly participated in the genesis of the Beach Boys? It's like going to a concert in 1969 is somehow important but living with and rehearsing, touring, and recording with the Beach Boys is not? Hey I went to a concert in 1975, so I don't give a damn what Tony Asher has to say. Does that make sense? No.

BTW David and Carrie are just fine, talked to them right after this happened, and again today. Just a blip in their 20 years of being together. Love is an intense thing.


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: CenturyDeprived on July 28, 2018, 05:48:03 PM
I mean how ridiculous is it to say "does anybody really give a sh*t" about hearing from a guy who not only was IN THE BAND as they rose to fame, but lived and grew up with the Wilsons beginning in 1957, and saw, first hand how Brian developed his musical abilities, and directly participated in the genesis of the Beach Boys? It's like going to a concert in 1969 is somehow important but living with and rehearsing, touring, and recording with the Beach Boys is not? Hey I went to a concert in 1975, so I don't give a damn what Tony Asher has to say. Does that make sense? No.

+1

Sending very best vibrations to David and Carrie during this time.


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: DonnyL on July 28, 2018, 05:54:53 PM
Is it weird that I think it's kind of cool that David Marks got arrested? Like, The Beach Boys still have a little edge left.

(Glad to hear they're doing well, I mean this in a rock band mythology kind of way)


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: Pretty Funky on July 28, 2018, 06:08:30 PM
Is it weird that I think it's kind of cool that David Marks got arrested? Like, The Beach Boys still have a little edge left.

(Glad to hear they're doing well, I mean this in a rock band mythology kind of way)

Bring on the R&R album then. Expect Brian to chuck his wheelchair off a hotel balcony next.  ;D


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: feelintheflows on July 28, 2018, 07:23:08 PM
Is it weird that I think it's kind of cool that David Marks got arrested? Like, The Beach Boys still have a little edge left.

(Glad to hear they're doing well, I mean this in a rock band mythology kind of way)

Can’t say I disagree


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on July 28, 2018, 08:10:21 PM
This story kind of reminds me of what happened with Paul Simon and Edie Brickell a couple of years back.  They called it a misunderstanding and even showed up in court together to refute the charges and they moved on.  I’m sure Dave and Carrie will be fine.


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: c-man on July 28, 2018, 08:40:06 PM
This story kind of reminds me of what happened with Paul Simon and Edie Brickell a couple of years back.  They called it a misunderstanding and even showed up in court together to refute the charges and they moved on.  I’m sure Dave and Carrie will be fine.

Also, Donald Fagen and Libby Titus. Although she spoke of "divorcing my husband" to a reporter the next day, they worked it out and stayed together.


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: Seaside Woman on July 29, 2018, 02:44:15 AM
The UK's Daily Mail carried the story, too ...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6002813/Longtime-Beach-Boys-guitarist-David-Marks-69-arrested-domestic-dispute-wife.html


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: JK on July 29, 2018, 05:59:27 AM
Credentials? There are no credentials. Being old isn't a credential, it's a biological misfortune.

 :lol


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: Tony S on July 29, 2018, 06:19:00 AM
I like to hear what David has to say. Seems like a sincere, honest, straight up guy to me. And he has nowhere's near the bagggage with the rest of the guys that they all do with each other. That alone is a real plus...he seems to get along fine all of the camps, something none of the others can say.


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 29, 2018, 06:24:38 AM
Just thinking out loud here, does anyone else think the timing of this report hitting TMZ is a little odd?

The initial TMZ report even said this happened earlier this month, yet here it is a few days before the first time the original members (as in those who were in the Wilson music room in Hawthorne) are sitting down together publicly in 6 years even if it's to share bagels and danish and answer the same questions they did on Charlie Rose in 2012, and someone tips TMZ about an incident that happened earlier in July.

Hmm.


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: Toursiveu on July 29, 2018, 07:09:11 AM
I'm just glad that nobody's asked Mike Love to comment on the matter.


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: All Summer Long on July 29, 2018, 08:22:58 AM
I'm just glad that nobody's asked Mike Love to comment on the matter.


I can just see it now....

"You know the Wilsons used all these drugs. My cousin Brian is controlled, Dennis was a horrible person who couldn't handle day-to-day living, and Carl fell off a stage in Australia because of his addictions. And now David Marks getting arrested after he got beat up by his wife...such a disgrace. No need to worry about us: Bruce and I are clean."


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 29, 2018, 08:29:10 AM
I'm just glad that nobody's asked Mike Love to comment on the matter.


I can just see it now....

"You know the Wilsons used all these drugs. My cousin Brian is controlled, Dennis was a horrible person who couldn't handle day-to-day living, and Carl fell off a stage in Australia because of his addictions. And now David Marks getting arrested after he got beat up by his wife...such a disgrace. No need to worry about us: Bruce and I are clean."

Forgot to add this:

"My meditation practices through TM help me control and deal with any anger issues..."


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on July 29, 2018, 10:09:19 AM
"My biggest regret is that time David Marks was arrested"


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 29, 2018, 10:10:58 AM
We know him too well...


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on July 29, 2018, 11:08:09 AM
"My biggest regret is that time David Marks was arrested"
  :lol


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: Rocker on July 29, 2018, 11:10:01 AM
To his credit, I don't remember Mike saying anything about John Stamos being arrested a couple of years ago for driving under the influence (iirc)

 ;)


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 29, 2018, 11:13:51 AM
“My buddy John Stamos was a little under the weather”...


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: Pretty Funky on July 29, 2018, 02:45:58 PM
"My biggest regret is that time David Marks was arrested"

...”He lived across the street from my cousins, so naturally I blame them.”


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: 18thofMay on July 29, 2018, 04:24:11 PM
Does anybody really give a sh*t what Marks would have to say in a Q&A. He hasn't been with the group since 1963. He was only brought back into the group because Carl died.

I’d imagine far more people give a sh*t about what Beach Boy David Marks has to say in a Q&A than do what some random poster—you, for instance—has to say on a Beach Boys message board.
Well let's see what my credentials are : first saw the BB's live in 1969, have met and spent a modest amount of time with all six Beach Boys, co-sponsored the first two Beach Boy conventions in the San Francisco Bay area, seen the original Beach Boys over forty times in concert and spent thousands of dollars regarding my obsession with Brian and the boys. So yeah , I'm a random poster but I think that my opinion matters and carries some weight. Oh, and I actually use my real name when I post.
And that gives  you a free pass to be a wanker?


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: Awesoman on July 29, 2018, 06:17:19 PM
Is it weird that I think it's kind of cool that David Marks got arrested? Like, The Beach Boys still have a little edge left.

(Glad to hear they're doing well, I mean this in a rock band mythology kind of way)

He got arrested for lame reasons.  Not quite the "edge" you're looking for.  😑


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: Alex on July 29, 2018, 11:20:34 PM
I usually ignore the idiocy in comment sections, but when it involves the BBs I get really sensitive and come pretty close to taking the ignorance personally.
 :angry :angry :angry :angry :angry :angry :angry :angry :angry :angry :angry :wall :wall :wall :wall :wall :wall :wall :wall :wall :wall :wall :wall


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: Pretty Funky on July 30, 2018, 08:39:35 AM
All seems well.

http://www.tmz.com/2018/07/30/beach-boys-david-marks-wife-together-smiling-arrested-domestic-dispute/


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: HeyJude on July 30, 2018, 08:43:56 AM
I forget how close David lives to Hollywood or how often he's hanging around in Hollywood proper, but that newer TMZ report would certainly suggest he's in town for the SiriusXM event. (Not that I assumed he wouldn't be there; I think a lot of people missed the part of TMZ's report that the incident occurred presumably a number of weeks ago).

It's a bit of a bummer, when you do a news search on the Beach Boys, it's a lot of reprints of the TMZ story about David (mixed in with the typical reports of Mike "coming to your town!" for a concert).

Hopefully that stuff will be drowned out with reports later today of the event; if it's anything like the Capitol tower event in 2006, there will be plenty of pics from the press floating around. I suppose it depends on whether SiriusXM allows cameras/phones, and whether they invite the press. One would think they would, as they're looking for publicity for all this stuff.


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: bonnevillemariner on July 30, 2018, 07:16:45 PM
Love is an intense thing.

I don't know, man. I like to think my wife and I love each other intensely, but it's never landed either of us in jail. I get it-- it's none of my business. Just more unfortunate and unnecessary drama in the Beach Boys legacy.


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: Marty Castillo on July 31, 2018, 06:07:56 AM
David's official statement:

https://www.davidleemarks.com/news/tmz-paparazzi-other-things


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: HeyJude on July 31, 2018, 06:48:59 AM
David's official statement:

https://www.davidleemarks.com/news/tmz-paparazzi-other-things

To clarify, his post is essentially a "buy the updated book to find out all the crazy stuff that's happened in the last decade" rather than much of any content actually speaking to the recent "incident." Which is fine, and Stebbins is awesome and the first edition of his book with Dave is a must-have and thus I'll be first in line to get the update. Unlike some other bios, I think Dave (and Jon) will actually really tell the real-deal story on everything as they did previously.

But his newest post isn't so much a typical "statement" on the recent incident, as in offering any context or details (which I'm not even suggesting he should have to).


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: B.E. on July 31, 2018, 07:00:23 AM
David's official statement:

https://www.davidleemarks.com/news/tmz-paparazzi-other-things

Thanks for the heads up! I can't say I'm surprised to hear that Mike was supportive of David during this reunion.

"I’d like to say big thank you’s to: everyone at Capitol who welcomed us home, Rob Reiner for a thoughtful and entertaining discussion, Lou Simon and everyone at SiriusXM for all of their efforts to support the music, Jerry Schilling at Brother Records for bringing us all together, Eric Breslow, for not only making sure we arrived in style (in his Bentley) but for always having our backs, and last but not least, Mike, Jacquelyn, Brian & Ambha Love, who went out of their way to be kind and supportive during what could have been an awkward afternoon, to say the least. Thank you all for the friendship and love! You find your true friends in the darkness!"


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: Fall Breaks on July 31, 2018, 07:49:31 AM
But why would the afternoon have been awkward without Mike and his familj??


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: Marty Castillo on July 31, 2018, 09:04:05 AM
But why would the afternoon have been awkward without Mike and his familj??

I wasn't there, but I assume David is referring to the fact that he and his wife were dragged by TMZ. David specifically points to Mike and his family being kind and supportive--I know that might be hard to believe by some people on this board.

If I were in David's shoes, I could see being afraid that I would receive the cold shoulder, or worse. I'm glad to hear that David seems to have had a positive experience.


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: CenturyDeprived on July 31, 2018, 09:50:28 AM
But why would the afternoon have been awkward without Mike and his familj??

I wasn't there, but I assume David is referring to the fact that he and his wife were dragged by TMZ. David specifically points to Mike and his family being kind and supportive--I know that might be hard to believe by some people on this board.

If I were in David's shoes, I could see being afraid that I would receive the cold shoulder, or worse. I'm glad to hear that David seems to have had a positive experience.

I don't know why it should be hard for anyone to believe. As far as we know, Dave and Mike have seemingly supportive and on basically good terms for 5 decades. Or at least I don't think there's been animosity/bad blood/sore feelings. Almost like a Bruce and Mike situation. I think part of that is there was zero time in the band during which either was vying for a piece of any shared artistic pie... maybe because Dave wasn't in the band long enough for that stuff to develop.

In any case, it's nice to see that Mike (and apparently all the living BBs members) are being supportive of Dave during this time. Yes, Mike unfortunately endlessly brings up bad stuff related to the Wilson brothers (to a point even when Mike's biggest supporters have eventually rolled their eyes as if to say "enough!"), so maybe some people might stretch to think this would be the case with Dave too. But that's not going to happen fortuantely, because Mike has no longstanding jealousy and/or resentment issues with Dave, in the way Mike does with the Wilsons, where he feels the heaps of fan love directed at the Wilsons are simultaneously at his expense.

This type of thing is a complete non-issue with Mike and Dave, where (I think?) not a single fan thinks Mike and Dave negatively impacted each others' artistic growth, adulation, etc., so they fortunately just don't seem to have any of that Wilson/Love baggage that might otherwise perhaps cause Mike to act finger-waggingly (if one is to attempt to predict Mike's reaction by factoring in Mike's unfortunate finger-wagging track record with the Wilsons).

Glad that Dave is immune to this. And I hope (perhaps unrealistically) that this is a sign that Mike will put that finger-wagging thing he repeatedly does behind him for all time now with regards to all his bandmates, past or present.


Title: Re: David Marks Arrested
Post by: HeyJude on July 31, 2018, 10:13:36 AM
David specifically points to Mike and his family being kind and supportive--I know that might be hard to believe by some people on this board.


Shouldn't be surprising at all to anyone who has read the Stebbins/Marks book. He describes Mike seeking him out, trying to help him through turmoil before and during his late 90s tenure, etc. In some of those cases, I think Mike had additional motives beyond simply abruptly deciding in 1997 that David Marks should be back in the band. But whatever the motivations (and there are surely many), it's well-documented that Mike certainly doesn't have the same "issues" with Dave as he does Brian or Al.

And the same goes for pretty much everybody vis-à-vis David Marks. He generally gets along with everyone, and certainly doesn't the same 50+ years of politics and ill will built up that the other guys do.

And as far as whatever happened earlier this month with David, I'm pretty sure some of he guys in the band have had *far* darker skeletons in their own closet.