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Title: Aren't You Glad -and others - Live vs Studio
Post by: BubbaFide on May 23, 2018, 03:14:53 PM

IMO, there are a handful of BB tunes where the live version is better than the studio.   IMO, "Aren't You Glad" live blows away the studio version.   Any others? 


Title: Re: Aren't You Glad -and others - Live vs Studio
Post by: ThreeCats on May 23, 2018, 06:22:45 PM
I think the live version of Funky Pretty is a lot funkier than the studio version.


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Title: Re: Aren't You Glad -and others - Live vs Studio
Post by: ReggieDunbar on May 24, 2018, 04:27:05 AM
MARCELLA!!


Title: Re: Aren't You Glad -and others - Live vs Studio
Post by: HeyJude on May 24, 2018, 06:13:41 AM
Neither version is among my favorites (the song is kind of a rewrite of "Takin' Care of Business"), but a good example of a live version being better than the limp, languid studio version is "Keepin' the Summer Alive."

Compare this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK__2GvLaqU  (STUDIO)

to this:

https://youtu.be/yBVRz4RC4ns?t=9m41s  (WASHINGTON DC 1980)


Title: Re: Aren't You Glad -and others - Live vs Studio
Post by: HeyJude on May 24, 2018, 06:15:42 AM
I'd also say the Carl Wilson 1981 live gigs feature more lively, interesting versions of his '81 solo album tracks than the actual studio album. Similar to KTSA, the '81 solo studio album is kind of limp and sterile.


Title: Re: Aren't You Glad -and others - Live vs Studio
Post by: TonyW on May 24, 2018, 12:29:29 PM
I despise the train wreck of the Summer In Paradise album but don't mind the live version of the song.


Title: Re: Aren't You Glad -and others - Live vs Studio
Post by: James Hughes-Clarke on May 24, 2018, 01:01:04 PM
Totally agree re Aren't You Glad.  The Live in London version is wonderful.  I'd also nominate Let The Wind Blow live '73, and also (perhaps more controversially?) Don't Worry Baby.


Title: Re: Aren't You Glad -and others - Live vs Studio
Post by: Cabinessenceking on May 24, 2018, 01:50:19 PM
Surfer Girl (1967 Hawaii rehearsal) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OahqdCYo72Y&ab_channel=k4corwen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OahqdCYo72Y&ab_channel=k4corwen)
You're So Good To Me (1967 live version - Brian growls out the lyrics!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XoHtYaf1sA&ab_channel=TheBeachBoysVEVO (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XoHtYaf1sA&ab_channel=TheBeachBoysVEVO)
Bluebirds Over the Mountain (1968) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaxQdW4vdIM&ab_channel=FUNFUNFUN315620 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaxQdW4vdIM&ab_channel=FUNFUNFUN315620)
Breakaway (live in Prague) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF6rklSaeSg&ab_channel=martinberan (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF6rklSaeSg&ab_channel=martinberan)
God Only Knows (1968 -MAYBE!!)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd6-OLQBfn4&ab_channel=MattLaufenberg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd6-OLQBfn4&ab_channel=MattLaufenberg)
Aren't You Glad (1970 version from Sunshine Tomorrow)
It's About Time (1970 live in Central Park)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVqj1fUu7Cw&ab_channel=upfront27 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVqj1fUu7Cw&ab_channel=upfront27)

A few from the 1973 live album...
Let The Wind Blow (1973)
Marcella (1973)
Don't Worry Baby (1973)
Funky Pretty (1973)
We Got Love (1973)

Heroes and Villains (1974 Nassau Coliseum) https://youtu.be/Kve4Sp3FxvI?t=52m47s (https://youtu.be/Kve4Sp3FxvI?t=52m47s)
Feel Flows (1974 Nassau Coliseum)https://youtu.be/Kve4Sp3FxvI?t=40m30s (https://youtu.be/Kve4Sp3FxvI?t=40m30s)
Sail On Sailor (1975 - Billy Hinche lead) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZdyyqTiT7s&ab_channel=RockShorts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZdyyqTiT7s&ab_channel=RockShorts)
Angel Come Home (1979) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_Ka4BpLzgk&ab_channel=A7Xmike21 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_Ka4BpLzgk&ab_channel=A7Xmike21)
Shortenin' Bread (1979) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5isCTstGgeo&ab_channel=SonicVolcanoify (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5isCTstGgeo&ab_channel=SonicVolcanoify)
Darlin' (1980) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D3DUx5X8kw&ab_channel=Flipse023 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D3DUx5X8kw&ab_channel=Flipse023)
Keepin' The Summer Alive (1980) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tpTQv1rhbo&ab_channel=BachmanVideo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tpTQv1rhbo&ab_channel=BachmanVideo)


Title: Re: Aren't You Glad -and others - Live vs Studio
Post by: HeyJude on May 24, 2018, 02:48:13 PM
I think most of those are great live versions, but few actually literally better the studio counterpart.

Another that does is "It's About Time", but actually the live 1973 version from "Made in California" that smokes both the original studio version and any 1970 live version.


Title: Re: Aren't You Glad -and others - Live vs Studio
Post by: Gerry on May 24, 2018, 06:56:55 PM
Sail on Sailor live was a great thing to hear  in 1973 and '74.


Title: Re: Aren't You Glad -and others - Live vs Studio
Post by: c-man on May 25, 2018, 04:49:22 AM
We Got Love

And, I agree wholeheartedly on Aren't You Glad and Let The Wind Blow. :hat


Title: Re: Aren't You Glad -and others - Live vs Studio
Post by: Aum Bop Diddit on May 27, 2018, 11:20:31 PM
"Aren't You glad" is the clear cut one.  Outstanding performance and the horns kick it over the top.  After that I think of only maybe "Leaving This Town."


Title: Re: Aren't You Glad -and others - Live vs Studio
Post by: Rocker on May 28, 2018, 01:02:58 AM
I'd also like to mention the wonderful Live in London version of Aren't You Glad. Al's voice is particularly great on that track imo.

Also Carl's live arrangement of Heroes & Villains, especially the Ricky and Blondie years, is phenomenal. If recorded this way it almost sounds like it could have commercial potential, something that the original single lacks in part. And although I wouldn't wanna call it better than the studio version, it definitely stands on it's own. (BTW I also love the live performances of the song with Brian in Hawaii in '67. What the guys could pull off on stage with just 5 people is impressive.)


Title: Re: Aren't You Glad -and others - Live vs Studio
Post by: phirnis on May 28, 2018, 09:05:51 AM
I'm a huge fan of the In Concert album but I definitely prefer the studio version of Funky Pretty over the live recording. On the live album it just sounds like a regular rock song (although a good one), while the studio rendition has all these amazing things going on, especially synth-wise - this is where the Switched-On Bach influence really came through.


Title: Re: Aren't You Glad -and others - Live vs Studio
Post by: Rocker on May 29, 2018, 12:37:13 PM
Beginning with Live in London, I think all of Carl's live performances of "Darlin'" are rocking more than the excellent studio version.


Title: Re: Aren't You Glad -and others - Live vs Studio
Post by: HeyJude on May 29, 2018, 01:00:13 PM
To me, the '67 "Darlin'" and subsequent live versions (especially the circa 1980 version that turned it more into a pop/rock song than an R&B-infused funky, slower number) are almost like separate songs. I love both, but they're so different. A bit like the live 70s versions of H&V versus the '67 studio version.


Title: Re: Aren't You Glad -and others - Live vs Studio
Post by: Lonely Summer on May 29, 2018, 03:18:21 PM
Beginning with Live in London, I think all of Carl's live performances of "Darlin'" are rocking more than the excellent studio version.
Yeah, puts the studio cut in the shade. Part of it is he just became a better singer as time went on.


Title: Re: Aren't You Glad -and others - Live vs Studio
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on May 29, 2018, 03:53:01 PM
To me, the '67 "Darlin'" and subsequent live versions (especially the circa 1980 version that turned it more into a pop/rock song than an R&B-infused funky, slower number) are almost like separate songs.
"Darlin'" is cooler as fast song. The less "funky", the better. R&b isn't favorite genre in music.


Title: Re: Aren't You Glad -and others - Live vs Studio
Post by: HeyJude on May 30, 2018, 10:31:16 AM
It's interesting that by the 90s, still in the Carl era, they slowed down "Darlin'" quite a bit and did it somewhat more like the original recording, and it sounded pretty limp and waaaay too slow (cheesy 90s keyboards didn't help either). That was of course the case for a number of songs in the 90s setlist. Some performances from the mid-late 90s especially of stuff like "Catch a Wave" are distractingly slowed down.

I remember all the way back to the 1981 syndicated "20th Anniversary Special", which was the first place where some Knebworth '80 footage was used, thinking that that performance of "Darlin'" was quite good. Spunky, some good guitar, and a nice Carl lead. I was surprised to see it singled out for inclusion 17 years later on the 1998 "Endless Harmony Soundtrack."