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Title: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: HeroesandVillains on July 15, 2017, 06:33:54 AM
Okay before everyone starts typing "WELL IT'S A LOVE THANG" let's stop and think about this here. The Boys are no stranger to shall we say questionable moments both musically and in real life. What would you say is the cringiest thing they have ever done (individual members too)?

Personally I have to say watching Brian be interviewed while Landy wraps his arms around him like a mother figure was pretty difficult to watch, or the beautiful rendition of Good Vibrations while Carl is piss ass drunk.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: rab2591 on July 15, 2017, 06:51:08 AM
Wipeout (featuring the Fat Boys) - The Beach Boys (https://youtu.be/r-kAnNgqN9o)

That they made the song is one thing - it was a terrible time for all music. But to make such an embarrassing music video??


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: Tony S on July 15, 2017, 07:33:17 AM
Wipeout and SOL certainly rank up near the top. Performance wise, the televised live show from the Queen Mary with an absent Carl and Brian straining on Don't Worry Baby. Their most cringe worthy performance if you ask me. All these years later, and I can't get it out of my mind.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on July 15, 2017, 09:13:43 AM

Upon hearing that the new BB album was out, walking to the local record shop full of unbridled anticipation. Could absolutely not wait to hear what was going to follow PS due to hearing "H&V" on the AM radio and bits of chatter here and there about how great it was supposed to be. Walking quickly home, I opened it up and put it on my JC Penny stereo, and had the most incredible WTF BB listening session in my life only to be followed very closely behind my Love You first listening session.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on July 15, 2017, 09:16:56 AM
Miming The Beach Boys Medley on American Bandstand in 1981 is definitely up there.  Brian mouthing Carl's lead on Good Vibrations being maybe the most surreal moment. https://youtu.be/CbX3rKMHYy4


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: rab2591 on July 15, 2017, 10:18:47 AM

Upon hearing that the new BB album was out, walking to the local record shop full of unbridled anticipation. Could absolutely not wait to hear what was going to follow PS due to hearing "H&V" on the AM radio and bits of chatter here and there about how great it was supposed to be. Walking quickly home, I opened it up and put it on my JC Penny stereo, and had the most incredible WTF BB listening session in my life only to be followed very closely behind my Love You first listening session.

This is a really interesting perspective on it. There was basically no transition from the sweeping orchestral and harmonious vibes you get from Pet Sounds to Smiley Smile. SMiLE seemed to be a perfect transition because Brian was still using session musicians but to a somewhat lesser degree than Pet Sounds. But instead SMiLE never came out and the fans in the 60s got a stripped down/bare bones Beach Boys with Smiley.

OSD, did you buy Wild Honey and Friends at the time they were released? If so, how did you feel about them?



Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: Gerry on July 15, 2017, 10:21:10 AM
I think there are many; some are funny, like the 1980 GMA interview with Joan Lunden. For me, one of the worst decisions and cringe-inducing eras was the introduction of the cheerleaders onstage in the 1990's. It was just so sad to see, and they really didn't need them.  I can only guess that  it was Mike's idea. I suppose the other guys went along with it.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: JK on July 15, 2017, 02:05:08 PM
Murry selling the Sea of Tunes catalogue for peanuts beats anything in terms of cringeworthiness that the Boys ever did.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: adamghost on July 15, 2017, 03:34:22 PM
The original version of "Hey Little Tomboy" during the breakdown.
The 1981 American Bandstand appearance
The 1981 Long Beach appearance
"Summer Of Love" video

The 1980 GMA appearance is up there, but if you squint at it a certain way it's actually somewhat hilarious.  I can't squint at the four examples above in any way.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: RubberSoul13 on July 15, 2017, 06:05:38 PM
Seeing as the original poster addressed both personal and musical affairs, I think Dennis marrying Mike's illegitimate daughter takes the cake over anything else any of these guys have ever done.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: Pretty Funky on July 15, 2017, 07:05:27 PM
Any number of sitcom appearances, however the 'Beach Boys Huddle' from Full House gets the raspberry from me.  :p

https://youtu.be/HJ-750WUk3s




Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on July 15, 2017, 08:56:15 PM
Mike's RnR HOF speech.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: Silken on July 15, 2017, 09:04:28 PM
Miming The Beach Boys Medley on American Bandstand in 1981 is definitely up there.  Brian mouthing Carl's lead on Good Vibrations being maybe the most surreal moment. https://youtu.be/CbX3rKMHYy4

This.

And Dennis drunk on Good Morning America.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: KDS on July 15, 2017, 10:15:35 PM
Early Album Talk Tracks
Vegatables
Most of Smiley Smile
Mt Vernon and Fairway
Love You
Here Comes the Night 79
Summer of Love
Runaway Dancer
Do It Again 17


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: Rick5150 on July 16, 2017, 05:07:22 AM
This is up there for me. I like the song too, but not like this. I would rather see him behind a keyboard.

https://youtu.be/rgKwVpcKqYw?t=2m23s


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on July 16, 2017, 08:08:51 AM

Upon hearing that the new BB album was out, walking to the local record shop full of unbridled anticipation. Could absolutely not wait to hear what was going to follow PS due to hearing "H&V" on the AM radio and bits of chatter here and there about how great it was supposed to be. Walking quickly home, I opened it up and put it on my JC Penny stereo, and had the most incredible WTF BB listening session in my life only to be followed very closely behind my Love You first listening session.

This is a really interesting perspective on it. There was basically no transition from the sweeping orchestral and harmonious vibes you get from Pet Sounds to Smiley Smile. SMiLE seemed to be a perfect transition because Brian was still using session musicians but to a somewhat lesser degree than Pet Sounds. But instead SMiLE never came out and the fans in the 60s got a stripped down/bare bones Beach Boys with Smiley.

OSD, did you buy Wild Honey and Friends at the time they were released? If so, how did you feel about them?



Yes, I did, Rab. I wasn't going to let one stinker ruin the BB thing for me. They were still getting airplay with "WH", "Darlin' " and even "Friends" but it would be next year's "Do It Again" that garnered the most attention. I basically knew their big hit days were dwindling but they were/are part of my being and I knew that I was hooked forever. I absolute loved the WH lp with "HCTN" being my go to song then and now. Friends certainly had a laid back vibe that I played often to kind of chill to. "BDN" has always resonated with me for some reason. They were albums that stayed home when attending a party because my piers weren't BB friendly but everyone knew I was a huge fan. I always knew, however, that I would be vindicated in the long run but had to wait for the 70's for that to take place.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 16, 2017, 08:13:28 AM
Good stuff OSD! :)


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 16, 2017, 10:08:26 AM
Moments?

Summer Of Love video on Baywatch.

Mike appearing on Lifestyles Of The Rich And Famous.

Dean Cain being green-screened onto year-old unused footage of Mike and band at the Hollywood Christmas Parade to appear as if Dean was plugging Mike's book at a live and/or current performance.

That hideous Super Bowl pregame party thing with Ruth Buzzi

Landy hugging Brian on a TV interview

The video of Mike's microphone cutting out during a performance featuring Stamos, and Mike's replacement mic cutting out as well.

Mike crooning a Christmas carol to a live lamb being held by Mary MacGregor for a Radio Shack TV special.

Mike and Dean Torrence singing Jingle Bell Rock in a sleigh for the same special.

The R&R Hall Of Fame debacle, not even his speech but when Mike insists on adjusting Brian's microphone multiple times during Brian's speech.

"DO IT! DO IT! DO IT!...etc."



Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 16, 2017, 10:22:32 AM
Somebody needs Wink Martindale to ask him about those! >:D


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: BBs Footage Saga on July 16, 2017, 11:31:46 AM
Dennis Wilson in the Twien TV Appearance


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: PS on July 16, 2017, 12:56:46 PM
SNL, 11/27/76.

The most painful evening of my lifelong love for the music and legacy of Brian Wilson. A mix of cringe, embarrassment, and sorrow. I always dreamed of hearing Brian Wilson at the piano doing a live solo version of "Good Vibrations," but not like this. Knowing what we know now, it's hard to imagine what this moment was like back then for die hards like us.

(http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg530/Phil_Solomon/Screen%20shot%202017-07-15%20at%203.51.54%20PM.png)


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: PS on July 16, 2017, 01:01:36 PM
And this didn't help matters any...

(http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg530/Phil_Solomon/2lx9kt2_1.png?t=1500148543)


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: clinikillz on July 16, 2017, 02:00:32 PM
What about when Brian went off on a tangent about Phil Spector after being asked a question about groupies by Joan Rivers?


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: HeroesandVillains on July 16, 2017, 04:28:31 PM
Christ, I forgot about that lifestyles of the rich and famous video. I think the first time I saw it I burst out laughing and then slowly got more and more angry as the video went on before started laughing at the absurdity of the whole thing. The shot of Mike rubbing his body while he talks about "cooties" while a raga plays in the background is still hilarious but still makes me shudder at the thought of it


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: CenturyDeprived on July 16, 2017, 04:47:19 PM
DIA '17 is more cringier than Wrinkles, to these ears. In fact, I'd take Wrinkles on repeat over a single DIA '17 listening.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: orange22 on July 16, 2017, 05:02:22 PM

Upon hearing that the new BB album was out, walking to the local record shop full of unbridled anticipation. Could absolutely not wait to hear what was going to follow PS due to hearing "H&V" on the AM radio and bits of chatter here and there about how great it was supposed to be. Walking quickly home, I opened it up and put it on my JC Penny stereo, and had the most incredible WTF BB listening session in my life only to be followed very closely behind my Love You first listening session.

That must've been strange. At the time, did it reflect your opinion of their previous work?

The closest thing I can compare it to is being a big fan of the band Weezer. They released 2 creative, sensitive, rocking albums in 1994 and 1996. Their next album didn't come until 2001, and was much more commercially-focused. It felt like a punch in the stomach.  So I can see how Smiley would have been an off-putting experience at the time.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: Dave in KC on July 16, 2017, 05:38:59 PM
I got married the morning of this SNL appearance. Didn't turn out well. The evening with friends and family watching this that is.

SNL, 11/27/76.

The most painful evening of my lifelong love for the music and legacy of Brian Wilson. A mix of cringe, embarrassment, and sorrow. I always dreamed of hearing Brian Wilson at the piano doing a live solo version of "Good Vibrations," but not like this. Knowing what we know now, it's hard to imagine what this moment was like back then for die hards like us.

(http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg530/Phil_Solomon/Screen%20shot%202017-07-15%20at%203.51.54%20PM.png)


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on July 16, 2017, 11:27:06 PM
Huh.  I always thought that SNL appearance was pretty cool.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: Love Thang on July 17, 2017, 12:10:58 PM
The entire group "surfboard strut" portion of the Summer of Love video. The absolute nadir of the bands entire career.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: petsoundsnola on July 17, 2017, 02:03:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBFsJk6PWu0


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on July 17, 2017, 02:43:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBFsJk6PWu0

First time seeing this. A Love Thang indeed.  :-\
Looking at the credits I mis-read the co-executive producer's name. Thought it was David Barf (actually Braff)


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: Jeff on July 17, 2017, 04:36:46 PM
East Meets West.  Other equally awful things (Problem Child) followed, but East Meets West was a new low at the time, and arguably the final descent into tribute band status.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: jiggy22 on July 17, 2017, 05:57:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBFsJk6PWu0

Ever notice that Carl always wore those dark sunglasses when he was in something really embarrassing such as this? (ex. "Problem Child" music video, "Crocodile Rock" promo, etc). Can't say I don't blame him!


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: Lee Marshall on July 17, 2017, 07:11:53 PM
The SNL when Dan A. and John B. arrested Brian W. and took him to the beach to MAKE HIM surf was pretty upsetting for me.  My first listen to Smiley Smile and my first listen to Love You were both horrible and OH-SO disappointing audio memories.  The R & R Hall of fame 'thing' was just rock bottom effin' awful.  Other items mentioned here in the thread, while valid as low points, aren't necessarily the ones the largest possible number of people were subjected too...ie:  the ones which did the most damage. That's why the 4th of July thing was so qawd-awful 2 weeks ago.  The largest possible audience to 'tune in' the beached boys in how long...and THAT is what they saw and heard?  sh*t!!!


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 17, 2017, 07:21:23 PM
The SNL when Dan A. and John B. arrested Brian W. and took him to the beach to MAKE HIM surf was pretty upsetting for me.  My first listen to Smiley Smile and my first listen to Love You were both horrible and OH-SO disappointing audio memories.  The R & R Hall of fame 'thing' was just rock bottom effin' awful.  Other items mentioned here in the thread, while valid as low points, aren't necessarily the ones the largest possible number of people were subjected too...ie:  the ones which did the most damage. That's why the 4th of July thing was so qawd-awful 2 weeks ago.  The largest possible audience to 'tune in' the beached boys in how long...and THAT is what they saw and heard?  sh*t!!!

Agree...but Baywatch at the time the Summer Of Love debacle aired had an astronomical worldwide viewing audience, the numbers were staggering for that show. And they got to see Mike rapping, preening, and Stamos playing electronic drums on the beach.

I'd say at this point "DO IT! DO IT! DO IT!" and "It's a LOVE THING..." are neck-and-neck at this point, with Baywatch still winning out by a nose.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: B.E. on July 17, 2017, 08:14:59 PM
Not the cringiest, but South Bay Surfer is worthy of a mention. It's a mess and sure as hell is embarrassing alongside Surfer Girl, In My Room, Little Deuce Coupe, and Catch A Wave (and the rest of the album for that matter!). Typically, it bothers me how frequently posters throw around the term "filler", but in this case it is totally appropriate. It sounds sloppy, incomplete, and tossed together. The most cringe-worthy bits being Mike's prominent bass vocal interjections -"We'll find the big one" - "they take the big one". Then, when it's time for the next one we faintly hear a mumbled "you're gonna eat it". The unison singing, the lyrics, the production, the mix...it all sounds amateurish. The drum fill sounds worse in the mono mix, unfortunately. Anyway, with all that said, I still listen to it from time to time and kinda enjoy it. I don't HATE it, but in the context of the Surfer Girl album I think it's cringe-worthy.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: kreen on July 17, 2017, 09:25:16 PM
East Meets West.  Other equally awful things (Problem Child) followed, but East Meets West was a new low at the time, and arguably the final descent into tribute band status.

East Meets West is great! A Bob Gaudio-Frankie Valli-Beach Boys collaboration: who could ask for more? And even Brian gets a great vocal hook at the end. So much talent on that record.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on July 17, 2017, 09:39:36 PM
The SNL when Dan A. and John B. arrested Brian W. and took him to the beach to MAKE HIM surf was pretty upsetting for me. 

That actually wasn't from SNL.  It was from the Lorne Michaels produced Beach Boys TV special in 1976 to promote 15 Big Ones.  It's available on DVD under the title Good Vibrations Tour.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: PS on July 17, 2017, 11:24:29 PM
Huh.  I always thought that SNL appearance was pretty cool.

You know, I went back and listened to it for the first time since '76...and I have to agree with you. Thanks for helping me revisit and reconsider a bad memory...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZQSUTCafD0


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: HeyJude on July 18, 2017, 06:27:15 AM
East Meets West.  Other equally awful things (Problem Child) followed, but East Meets West was a new low at the time, and arguably the final descent into tribute band status.

The song has pretty cheesy 80s production values, but it at least had some legitimacy in that it was an *original* song written by the Four Seasons duo of Gaudio/Crewe, and the vocals on it are solid. It's a catchy enough song. It's not brilliant, but only the production values and requisite stiff 80s guitar "shredding" are close to cringe-worthy.

The band had done things (e.g. the entire 1981 tour) that were far more cringe-worthy and damaging to their careers prior.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: HeyJude on July 18, 2017, 06:29:01 AM
The entire group "surfboard strut" portion of the Summer of Love video. The absolute nadir of the bands entire career.

I think the entire debacle of them being on the show was pretty embarrassing.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: HeyJude on July 18, 2017, 06:30:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBFsJk6PWu0

It's so perfect and fitting that Mike Love gets *top* billing among the guest stars. It appears as though the BBs are listed first before the other actors, and are listed individually and alphabetically, *except* for Mike, who is listed first. Then he's followed by Al, Bruce, Brian, and Carl in that order alphabetically.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 18, 2017, 08:41:49 AM
Plus making taller BW hunch behind Mike as he was leading the surfboard group shot.  ::)


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: Silken on July 18, 2017, 09:57:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBFsJk6PWu0

It's so perfect and fitting that Mike Love gets *top* billing among the guest stars. It appears as though the BBs are listed first before the other actors, and are listed individually and alphabetically, *except* for Mike, who is listed first. Then he's followed by Al, Bruce, Brian, and Carl in that order alphabetically.
I guess it's because he has more lines than the others?


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 18, 2017, 10:08:58 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBFsJk6PWu0

It's so perfect and fitting that Mike Love gets *top* billing among the guest stars. It appears as though the BBs are listed first before the other actors, and are listed individually and alphabetically, *except* for Mike, who is listed first. Then he's followed by Al, Bruce, Brian, and Carl in that order alphabetically.
I guess it's because he has more lines than the others?

Or that he was the main perpetrator of that debacle...Mike had the wheel at that time, he was the skipper of the boat. Brian's expression in that video says it all.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: Lee Marshall on July 18, 2017, 11:07:20 AM
The SNL when Dan A. and John B. arrested Brian W. and took him to the beach to MAKE HIM surf was pretty upsetting for me. 

That actually wasn't from SNL.  It was from the Lorne Michaels produced Beach Boys TV special in 1976 to promote 15 Big Ones.  It's available on DVD under the title Good Vibrations Tour.

I thought that as I posted it.  Couldn't truly remember.  It's all that really stood out.  And I watched it when it first aired.  Bloody awful.  THAT entire figgin' horror sequence.  Supposedly funny but entirely cringe-wallowing and completely mean spirited.   Hated it then.  Hate it now. 


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on July 18, 2017, 11:17:45 AM
ummmmmm, this fresh turd......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4inGP8qMnPE&t=108s


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 18, 2017, 11:20:35 AM
ummmmmm, this fresh turd......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4inGP8qMnPE&t=108s

Holy sh*t...that's hot off the press! Directed by John Stamos! I guess Noven Jaisi was unavailable for that shoot.

Interesting that comments have already been disabled...


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 18, 2017, 11:22:51 AM
That official video should do wonders for the commercial viability of Mike as a solo artist.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on July 18, 2017, 11:25:27 AM
just when you think the clusterfuck couldn't get worse, and then this
pops up! Holy Fucking Christ!
(kinda makes 'SIP' look good eh?)  :hat


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 18, 2017, 11:28:36 AM
The video speaks for itself. As if the song didn't speak volumes already, the video speaks for itself.

You think you've seen so much that you're jaded, you're used to it, nothing can surprise you anymore, etc.

Then something like that shows up.

Smart move, disabling comments on YouTube.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on July 18, 2017, 11:33:56 AM
the stupid part is an 11 year old kid can make a better video for this
than what has been presented to boot! 


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 18, 2017, 11:38:24 AM
Missed opportunity, if Stamos had found a way to incorporate Dr. Phil, a bowl full of yogurt, and a glass of pink blush wine into this video, they could have cornered the yoga pants and romance novel demographic in one fell swoop.

But seriously, who or what is the target audience for this?





Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: marcella27 on July 18, 2017, 02:39:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBFsJk6PWu0

Ever notice that Carl always wore those dark sunglasses when he was in something really embarrassing such as this? (ex. "Problem Child" music video, "Crocodile Rock" promo, etc). Can't say I don't blame him!

Yes!  I have long thought the same thing.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: Tony S on July 18, 2017, 03:42:57 PM
Smart guy. Carl Wilson


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: HeyJude on July 19, 2017, 06:36:54 AM
I'm very grateful that John Stamos did not find some way to stick footage of Carl or Dennis into that "Do It Again" video.



Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: rab2591 on July 19, 2017, 06:42:15 AM
I'm very grateful that John Stamos did not find some way to stick footage of Carl or Dennis into that "Do It Again" video.



I wonder how Al feels being in it....


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: Jeff on July 21, 2017, 07:31:45 PM
East Meets West.  Other equally awful things (Problem Child) followed, but East Meets West was a new low at the time, and arguably the final descent into tribute band status.

East Meets West is great! A Bob Gaudio-Frankie Valli-Beach Boys collaboration: who could ask for more? And even Brian gets a great vocal hook at the end. So much talent on that record.

Supposedly Dennis died of a broken heart after hearing the sessions for that travesty.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: JL on July 29, 2017, 04:08:14 PM
I remember a while back there was a video of a concert circa 1977 where they were singing Airplane/Back Home. When they were done singing the first song Brian ran to the front of the stage and almost crashed into Mike. Then Mike and Brian start talking, and it looks like Mike's really ticked off, waving his arms around and yelling. I don't know if it was because of what Brian did or something else. Al Jardine is talking to the audience, saying things like "Alright, here's Brian, with a new song, we're getting ready here..." etc. Then the video shows Al's concerned face, zooms out to show Brian looking really angry when adjusting his microphone and then smacking it. His vocals on Back Home were very hoarse but I think he was straining his voice on purpose because he was angry. Then when the song is done he hands/shoves the bass to Mike, says something then walks off while Mike is left awkwardly trying to play a few notes on the bass, I guess to try and save face or something.

When I saw the video I thought it was very surreal, cringey, and sad, a far cry from the early days when they looked so happy performing. Looks like the clip disappeared though, so I can't post it.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: Dave in KC on July 30, 2017, 02:56:35 PM
Several years ago I read on the ME Board and I think it was even in Carlin's book that Brian was once found playing for drinks in a gay bar in San Diego. Cringe.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: doinnothin on July 30, 2017, 03:27:46 PM
Hands down. That time Mike's Beach Boys played at two inaugural balls to celebrate the beginning of Donald Trump's presidency.

Though perhaps it went past cringe and into actual retching.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 30, 2017, 03:30:24 PM
Hands down. That time Mike's Beach Boys played at inaugural balls to celebrate the beginning of Donald Trump's presidency.

Thought perhaps it went past cringe and into actual retching.
Without playing the actual one to avoid "criticism", yet Mike was seen in the inaugural crowd...


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: petsoundsnola on August 02, 2017, 08:05:57 AM
The Mike Love "Girls Trifecta"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJMqXZFmb6w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSCylIA8Yr4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB3NTDcuPw8



Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: Cabinessenceking on August 06, 2017, 08:49:44 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBfVCMgQOMM&ab_channel=CapitalConcerts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBfVCMgQOMM&ab_channel=CapitalConcerts)


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: Banana on August 07, 2017, 09:46:28 AM
Mike once sang a little ditty called "Rockin' the Main in the Boat" which is about as cringy as one could get. I know it was on a solo outing (no pun intended)...but wow! Even more cringy when I picture him with that awful jacket from the album cover!


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: HeyJude on August 09, 2017, 06:27:46 AM
Brace yourself fans (and foes) of "Problem Child"; this thing has actually just made it to HD on Blu-ray.....

(https://pisces.bbystatic.com/image2/BestBuy_US/images/products/5934/5934909_sa.jpg;maxHeight=550;maxWidth=642)


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: KDS on August 09, 2017, 06:43:15 AM
Brace yourself fans (and foes) of "Problem Child"; this thing has actually just made it to HD on Blu-ray.....

(https://pisces.bbystatic.com/image2/BestBuy_US/images/products/5934/5934909_sa.jpg;maxHeight=550;maxWidth=642)

I got a promo VHS of that movie when I was ten years old.  No lies, I must have watched it about 3-4 times with a friend in a single weekend.  And I couldn't wait to go to the theaters to see the sequel in summer 1991. 

But, my goodness, talk about a movie that didn't age well.  And I LOVE dumb comedies from the late 80s / early 90s. 


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on August 09, 2017, 01:01:12 PM
I think Problem Child's greatest claim to fame is that it's the movie Robert De Niro is watching in that famous movie theater scene in Cape Fear when he's laughing and smoking a cigar in front of Nick Nolte and his family, a scene which was memorable enough that it was parodied in The Simpsons.  So it's got that going for it. https://youtu.be/M6HxD6sZ-I0


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: KDS on August 09, 2017, 01:09:53 PM
I think Problem Child's greatest claim to fame is that it's the movie Robert De Niro is watching in that famous movie theater scene in Cape Fear when he's laughing and smoking a cigar in front of Nick Nolte and his family, a scene which was memorable enough that it was parodied in The Simpsons.  So it's got that going for it. https://youtu.be/M6HxD6sZ-I0

I forgot about that. 

The movie actually has a fairly strong cast - John Ritter, Amy Yasbeck, Jack Warden, and Michael Richards (Seinfeld will still finding its way when this movie was released). 


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: HeyJude on August 09, 2017, 02:42:26 PM
Regarding the awful song and video for the BBs "Problem Child", it's funny that awhile back someone noted that it may be a "tell" on the part of Carl that he's not into the project when he wears sunglasses in the music video. I figured that was probably not *really* likely to be true, but then I start to wonder when I see this TV news report on the making of the music video, where Stamos, Mike, Bruce, Al, and even the kid from the movie sit down for interviews but Carl is nowhere to be seen in the interview sessions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvMmx5QBaqY


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: the captain on August 09, 2017, 03:24:59 PM
I learned this week due to a non-BBs related Problem Child 2 discussion--the very existence of which makes me question my life choices--the below, as found at Wikipedia.

Quote
Frustrated with the criticisms of the first one, [the screenwriters] deliberately increased the poor taste in the sequel, intending to make a Pasolini or John Waters film for children, and went so far overboard that the first cut received an R rating from the MPAA, a secret kept until their 2014 appearance on the podcast. Dubbing over Junior's use of the terms "fuckface" and "p*ssy whipped" got the film a PG-13 rating on appeal, but the studio was still so nervous that, at the last minute, they added the Woody Woodpecker cartoon Smoked Hams to the film's theatrical release, to reassure parents that the film was suitable for children.[3]

Reception
The film did not fare as well as the first one, earning half as much at the U.S. box-office.[1] Rotten Tomatoes reports that 7% of 27 surveyed critics gave the film a positive review; the average rating was 2.4/10. The sites consensus read: "Crude, rude, puerile, and pointless, Problem Child 2 represents a cynical nadir in family-marketed entertainment."

So I think an association with that movie is not their finest moment. That said, from my personal point of view, while I thought the live show was still quite good after KTSA (such as in the Knebworth show), the remainder of the '80s and pretty much the entirety of the '90s were pretty bad for the band, for many different reasons. They weren't unique among 60s icons to have similar problems, and they weren't uniformly abysmal. But for my own taste, it's not a good 20 years when the best I can say is "that's kind of funny" or "that's not so terrible." Whether it's the 25th anniversary show, the 85 album (or any of the other albums in that period, actually), the guest appearances, the TV shows ... it was all pretty bad, to my taste.

The improvements came from different places: Brian touring and releasing new music again helped spur interest in the catalogue; the reissues during that period helped do the same, including the deep cuts and unreleased material; the traveling Beach Boys made some serious upgrades to eventually reach their current, stellar quality as a live act (unfortunate splintering notwithstanding). But oof. If the '70s saw less commercial success (with albums, anyway) but some really strong material, the 80s and 90s just mostly saw the damn shame of a band trying to find its path: pure nostalgia, modern trends, somewhere down the middle, and none of it helped with the intraband squabbles.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: MatchPoint on August 21, 2017, 03:54:04 PM
This is up there for me...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj5A-597o0E

I'm not sure if it's the song, or the leather pants, or seeing Brian Wilson standing up so much.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: Sound of Free on August 21, 2017, 07:40:14 PM
Regarding the awful song and video for the BBs "Problem Child", it's funny that awhile back someone noted that it may be a "tell" on the part of Carl that he's not into the project when he wears sunglasses in the music video. I figured that was probably not *really* likely to be true, but then I start to wonder when I see this TV news report on the making of the music video, where Stamos, Mike, Bruce, Al, and even the kid from the movie sit down for interviews but Carl is nowhere to be seen in the interview sessions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvMmx5QBaqY

And yet Carl sang on it, but walked out on Brian and the reunion album in 1995. I don't get it.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: ♩♬☮ Billy C ♯♫♩☮ on August 21, 2017, 11:15:02 PM
If this was real, it would be up there.

(https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/21032608_10155641997799287_3456540266388759920_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=33fdc1950e71c897cf02bd49cc6a9baf&oe=5A2D37F8)


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: ♩♬☮ Billy C ♯♫♩☮ on August 21, 2017, 11:16:20 PM
Regarding the awful song and video for the BBs "Problem Child", it's funny that awhile back someone noted that it may be a "tell" on the part of Carl that he's not into the project when he wears sunglasses in the music video. I figured that was probably not *really* likely to be true, but then I start to wonder when I see this TV news report on the making of the music video, where Stamos, Mike, Bruce, Al, and even the kid from the movie sit down for interviews but Carl is nowhere to be seen in the interview sessions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvMmx5QBaqY

And yet Carl sang on it, but walked out on Brian and the reunion album in 1995. I don't get it.

That's how I feel too.


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: southbay on August 22, 2017, 11:14:18 AM
This is up there for me...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj5A-597o0E

I'm not sure if it's the song, or the leather pants, or seeing Brian Wilson standing up so much.

Hey, I was actually at that concert.  Memorial day weekend, 1989. BB/Chicago.  I'll tell you that the live performance by Brian  was FAR MORE CRINGEWORTHY than the video. It was announced ahead of time in a front page LA Times article that Brian would be there with the group.  I was so excited, told all my friends who were attending with me how great it was going to be to see Brian. Minutes into his performance they all ended up laughing at me...


Title: Re: The cringiest BB moment?
Post by: Lonely Summer on August 23, 2017, 12:34:25 AM
This is up there for me...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj5A-597o0E

I'm not sure if it's the song, or the leather pants, or seeing Brian Wilson standing up so much.
Oh man, I had forgotten how great Brian looked in that era. My girlfriend found him very attractive.