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Title: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: jackjachman on July 04, 2017, 05:25:01 PM
With the explosion of high-quality unreleased songs found on the Sunshine Tomorrow compilation, including several names that had been floating around for awhile but never bootlegged like "Game of Love" and "Honey Get Home", I was curious to see if we can come up with a basic idea for what tracks we can hope will finally be unleashed upon our ears in future rarity compilations. This is all assuming that Brother Records continues their yearly release cycle of copyright extension albums, which they show no sign of slowing down with.

I've combined the likes of the "Vaults" page (http://esquarterly.com/bellagio/vaults.html (http://esquarterly.com/bellagio/vaults.html)) (also found here in more readable form: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unreleased_songs_recorded_by_the_Beach_Boys (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unreleased_songs_recorded_by_the_Beach_Boys)), the Proposed Brother Bonus Tracks thread (http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,17621.0.html (http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,17621.0.html)), and my own personal collection of bootlegs to give a good idea of what exactly is still out there and if it will ever see the light of day. Of course, we have no way of knowing if some of these are even releasable at all, and I trust Mark Linnett and Alan Boyd more than enough to know they wouldn't leave off anything truly juicy when it comes to these annual compilations.

And a quick guide to shortened terms I used to save myself some time:
booted = bootlegged
unbooted = not bootlegged
not available for streaming = was released on a CD at some point, but not on any streaming platform



1967 - SMiLE, Smiley Smile, Lei'd In Hawaii, Wild Honey era

- "Sunflower Maiden": Brian and Van Dyke Parks song written for Three Dog Night. Apparently lost

- Lei'd In Hawaii studio rehearsal sessions; "Surfin'", "God Only Knows", "Good Vibrations", "California Girls", "Surfer Girl": Brian running through some of the songs they would play live on an organ with his faint vocals heard in the background. Not extremely necessary, but I certainly enjoy putting them on sometimes, if not just to hear Brian play all of "Good Vibrations" on an organ

- backing tracks to; "Gettin' Hungry", "She's Goin' Bald" (released with backing vocals instead of just the track), "Wind Chimes" (Smiley version), "Vegetables" (Smiley version): booted

- SMiLE backing tracks: booted, should have been released years ago


1968 - Friends, 20/20 era

- "Friends" (alternate mix): booted

- 1971 Friends remakes; "Wake the World", "Be Still" and "Friends": Stanley Shapiro and Tandyn Almer worked with Brian on these rerecordings. Only Brian's lead vocal of "Passing By" with lyrics has been released, the others are assumed to have been lost, especially considering that "Passing By" was sourced from a low-quality backup cassette

- "Fig Plucker": Dennis leading some of the group through a tongue-twister about a fig plucker

- backing tracks to; "Meant for You", "Wake the World", "We're Together Again": booted


1969 - 20/20, Sunflower era

- "Harmony Friends" - name of the soaring vocal-only coda to "Break Away" booted as a standalone 2 minute track, a treat for the ears

- "Slip on Through" (acetate mix): different from the '69 mix on the Feel Flows set

- "(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again" (demo): anything related to this song must be released ASAP

- "America, I Know You" (backing track): unbooted, collaboration with Stephen Kalinich


1970 - Sunflower era

- "Take A Load Off Your Feet, Pete" (original mix), "Tears In the Morning" (original version with different lyrics, as well as the studio backing track), "When Girls Get Together" (original mixes for both the studio version and the instrumental track), "Good Time" (original mix), "It's About Time" (percussion mix with some dazzling bongo playing): booted

- "Carnival": still waiting for the channel-swapping version of this to be released

- Big Sur concert: excellent show booted in good quality

- Fred Vail country album: a country album produced by Brian that has not been booted, tracks included; "Bethany Ann", "There's Always Something There to Remind Me", "Kittens, Kids & Kites, "Lucky Billy", "Black Man in Georgia", "One Woman Won't Hold Me", "Why Don't You Give Her to Me", "If You're Not Loving, You're Not Living", "All for The Love of A Girl", "Only the Lonely", "Carolina On My  Mind", "My Way of Life", "A Fool Such as I", "You Pass Me By", "I Can't Help It if I'm Still In Love With You"


1971 - Surf's Up, Carl & the Passions era

- "4th of July" (alternate version), "Barnyard Blues" (demo), "H.E.L.P. Is on the Way" (original mix), "Lookin' at Tomorrow" (original mix), "Big Sur" (original mix), "Won't You Tell Me" (original mix): unbooted

- Dennis Wilson solo album sessions (known as Poops or Hubba Hubba); "Follow Me to the Sea", "Sea Cruise"

- "Telephone Backgrounds (On A Clear Day)": unbooted Carl song

- "Sail On, Sailor" (demo): I hope the location of this is accounted for


1972 - Carl & the Passions "So Tough", Holland era

- "Daddy Dear", "Susie Cincinnati", "Fairy Tale Music" (with narration by Brian): all solo piano pieces by Brian. First two are piano demos played by Brian to somebody in Holland, both are brief but worth release for showcasing some nice Brian vocals before the 15 Big Ones era, "Fairy Tale Music" is from a time Brian was playing music for a reporter

- "Burlesque": Brian and Jack Riely song, may have never been recorded. Jack said in an interview that a line of lyric in it is "Tantalation and hot glowing skin/Sunís Ďbout to rest"

- "Funky Fever" and "Gimme Some Lovin/Baby, I Need Your Lovin'" (medley): unbooted songs recorded by Brian and David Sandler, apparently this '72 version of "Gimme Some Lovin'" is lost, but a version from the Keepin' the Summer Alive sessions exists

- "Spark In the Dark": unbooted organ jam by Brian, apparently a riff he would revisit with "Chain Reaction of Love"

- "Body Talk": also known as "Grease Job", features tack piano/bass/handclap. May be a Dennis track

- "Rooftop Harry", "Slow Song": unbooted

- "Out in the Country": booted in a somewhat skeletal form, as a more finished version with banjos and other instrumentation has been said to exist. The booted version works quite well on it's own I think, a bit like a more moody "Meant for You"

- "Hard Times": booted Ricky & Blondie song

- "Carry Me Home": what I would call the most sought after unreleased recording that has been booted, an incredible piece of work from Dennis

- "California Saga: On My Way Sunny Cali-for-nia" (single mix): with a bit more Brian vocals, not available for streaming

- "The Trader" (early mix): unbooted shorter version, seems like it's just the first part of the song

- "Fairy Tale Music/A Casual Look" (demo version), "I'm the Pied Piper" (extended version), "Pa, Let Her Go Out" (early version of "Better Get Back In Bed"): unbooted. Love the music in the fairy tale, would be very interested to hear any of this

- "Cuddle Up" (single mix): rare, but booted

- "California Saga" (1974 live version with sitar): booted, might only exist as an audience recording


1973 - Holland era

- "River Song" (original mix): booted. Recorded with the Beach Boys, seems the backing track and backing vocals were kept for Dennis' solo version

- "Dr. Tom": unbooted Al song

- "Pattycake": apparently never recorded, about a gorilla that Brian saw at the Bronx zoo


1974 - Caribou Sessions era

- "Honeycomb": unbooted cover recorded during the same session as "It's OK", also featuring Roy Wood of ELO and Wizzard on saxophone

- Carl demos: unbooted Moog and guitar demos

- "Shortenin' Bread": unbooted instrumental jam, the beginning of the period where Brian recorded that same Shortenin' riff many times

- "Dennis' Symphony": unbooted early version of "Friday Night"

- "Just An Imitation": apparently never recorded, written by Brian after his father's death

- Caribou sessions; "Good Timin'" (original track and lead vocal as well the instrumental version with horn section), "Is This Really Love", "Why Don't You Try Me?", "Rollin' Up to Heaven": only "Rollin' Up to Heaven" and both versions of "Good Timin'" circulate

- "Battle Hymn of the Republic": this one.... woof

- "Child of Winter": unbooted alternate mix with Carl and Dennis vocals


1975 - start of "Brian Is Back" era

- "Come to the Sunshine": Brian's cover of a Van Dyke Parks song, supposed to be lost

- "Carl's Song": booted instrumental

- "In the Back of My Mind" (piano demo): still unavailable for streaming for whatever reason, was a bonus track for the Target release of No Pier Pressure I believe. An emotional and revealing version with altered lyrics by Brian and features him prominently switching between his more coarse 15 Big Ones voice with the soaring falsetto from his younger voice

- "Rainbows" (early version), "String Bass Song": unbooted Dennis Wilson songs


1976 - 15 Big Ones, Love You era

 - "Michael Row the Boat Ashore", "Mony Mony", "Rock & Roll Music" ("hot" mix), "Come Go With Me" (original mix), "Ruby Baby", "Short Skirts", "Running Bear", "10,000 Years Ago", "On Broadway", "Sea Cruise", "We Gotta Groove", "Marilyn Rovell", "Lazy Lizzie", "Hey There Momma", "Let Us Go On This Way" (a capella backing vocals): booted, although the Brother Bonus Tracks CD has a mix of "We Gotta Groove" with lead vocals by Mike and "Short Skirts" has backing vocals

- "Don't Fight the Sea": unbooted, Al later rerecorded this and then worked on it for the next few decades, adding Carl & Brian in the late 80's and Mike in the 2000's

- unbooted Dennis songs; - "10,000 Years Ago" (instrumental), "Life Symphony", "Flowers Come In the Spring" (might be a remake of "Fallin' In Love"), "I Didn't Mean to Make You Worry", "Taking Off", "2,000 Years Ago" (possibly just a misnamed "10,000 Years Ago"), "String Thing 2", "Long String Song" (lotta "String" songs from Dennis around this time)

- "It's Like Heaven": booted. Recorded with Rocky Pamplin and Marilyn on vocals, I assume it predates the American Spring version

- "Just Once In My Life" (backing track): one of the absolute highlights of all bootlegs I've heard

- "Let's Dance", "Secret Love", and "Working in the Coal Mine": unheard covers

- "When Girls Get Together" (15 Big Ones mix): basically an early version of the mix from KTSA with the kick drum and odder production

- "TM Song" (alternate mix with long intro and no lead vocals): not nearly as essential as a lot of these other songs

- "Lady Lynda" (original version): more superior version in my mind, lacks the classical music intro and has different instrumentation

- "That Same Song": performance with a church choir from the It's OK special for TV


1977 - Love You, Adult/Child, Pacific Ocean Blue, M.I.U. era

- "The Night Was So Young" (early mix), "Love Is A Woman" (early mix with Al lead vocal), "Johnny Carson" (early mix with guitar intro), "Roller Skating Child" (early mix with different vocals), "I'll Bet He's Nice" (early mix), "Solar System" (early mix with no backing vocals), "Clangin'", "11th Bar Blues": all on the Brothers Bonus Tracks CD

- "Honkin' Down the Highway" (alternate version): booted version with Billy Hinsche on lead vocal and a synth solo

- "Solar System" (backing track): a rare find, but what a knockout track

- Adult/Child sessions, booted; "Life Is for the Living" (studio version and backing track), "Lines" (also exists an early mix with different Brian vocal), "Everybody Wants to Live", "It's Trying to Say (Baseball)", "Deep Purple", "My Diane" (original mix without string section and demo mix), "Shortenin' Bread" (original mix), "New England Waltz", "Still I Dream of It" (alternate rougher Brian vocal)

- "Oh Darling", "Something New", "Crying", "Fever", "Here Comes the Sun": unbooted Dennis songs

- "Gimme Some Lovin'": unbooted

- "Mike Come Back to L.A.": any edit or rough version would be welcome, very fun and energetic track

- "How's About A Little Bit of Your Sweet Lovin'?", "Go and Get That Girl", "Beach Burlesque", "Egypt": the last two are unheard

- Merry Christmas From The Beach Boys sessions; "Christmas Medley" (an excellent medley of Christmas songs with the band and their children, "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen", "O Come All Ye Faithful", "Hark The Herald Angels Sing", and "We Wish You A Merry Christmas"), "Santa Is on His Way" (rerecording of "H.E.L.P. Is on the Way"), "Alone on Christmas Day", "Sad, Sad Christmas": no boot has "Sad, Sad Christmas", but it's the original version of "Sad, Sad Summer" so it probably isn't too different from that

- "Pacific Ocean Blue" (backing track): booted

- rehearsals for Dennis Wilson solo tour: according to Ed Roach, there is some fantastic stuff here that people have heard. Seems like it absolutely deserves uncovering


1978 - M.I.U., Bambu, L.A. era

- "Rubles", "Ride Arabian, Ride": unbooted Al songs

- "Santa Ana Winds" (original mix): booted Brian song with different lyrics, grander instrumentation, and lacking the very unnecessary spoken word intro. Also exists an alternate mix with more instrumentation and double-tracked vocals. Al later revamped this for KTSA

- "Lookin' Down the Coast/Monterey": great work by Al on this one

- "I'm Begging You Please": booted Brian demo, his voice is a bit rough reaching for the falsetto but still an excellent song with the kind of mature lyrics I wish Brian wrote more of

- "Where We Are (It Could Be Anything)": early version of a Carl song, a nice listen

- "California Feelin'" (original mix): more synthy and without Brian vocals

- "Drip Drop": booted cover by Brian, although maybe not worth release for how off Brian sounds

- "Calendar Girl": booted cover with Mike on lead vocal with Brian singing the intro and providing backing vocals

- "I Really Love You": early version of a Brian song with him singing lead, a bit rough but his voice is smoother compared to a lot of 15BO and Love You. A rare find, along with its backing track

- "Basketball Rock", "Bowling": unbooted Brian instrumentals

- booted outtakes from Bambu; "Constant Companion" (extended alternate mix without backing vocals), "Baby Blue" (rough mix with no Dennis vocal) "Time for Bed" (backing track), "He's A Bum" (backing track), "Wild Situation" (backing track with backing vocals), "Love Surrounds Me" (backing track), "All Alone" (demo mix)

- and unbooted Bambu; "I Don't Want to Go" and "Let Me Out of Here"


1979 - L.A., Keepin' the Summer Alive era

- "Little Girl", "Jamaica Farewell", "Stranded In the Jungle", "Johnny B. Goode" (two versions exist, one with Dennis on drums and a later one with Bruce producing) "Smokey Places", "I'll Always Love You": covers recorded with Brian involvement, only the first song is booted in unfinished form which would then be strangely finished into an original song "Sunshine" on KTSA

- "Oh Darlin'": unbooted earlier attempt on the KTSA song with Dennis drumming

- "Boys and Girls": unbooted Brian song, one from the KTSA sessions produced by Bruce and a remake from 1980 produced by Brian. Both may not have vocals


1980 - Keepin' the Summer Alive era

- "Oh Darlin'" (original version): features Brian on lead vocal with prominent Carl vocals, alternate lyrics, and a much less busy backing track, I prefer this one 1000x more than the studio version with Bruce's overblown production

- "Goin' On" (original backing track): neat version with some charged-up drum solos not in the studio version

- "Be My Baby", "River Deep, Mountain High", "Smokey Places", "Greenback Dollar": covers with Brian involvement. Only the first two are booted

- "My Solution" and "Shortenin' Bread": booted instrumentals by Brian, possibly booted as "Song Within a Song"

- "Can't Wait Too Long" (1980 remake): unbooted. Overdubs were attempted by the group

- "Fly", "Up Again", "Candlesticks", "Surfer Suzie": unbooted

- "I'm a Man": unbooted Brian song

- "Bucks": unbooted Mike song

- Dennis Wilson and Christie McVie sessions: no luck on these yet


1981

- "Stevie": Brian/Dennis collaboration, written by Brian with production by Dennis and Garby Leon. Baffling why it hasn't been released, sounds so damn good and finished enough to put out there

- "I Ran (All the Way Home)": unbooted

- "Sweetie": unbooted studio version with Al, Mike and Brian taking turns on lead vocal


1982

- Cocaine Sessions material: "Why Don't You Tell Me Why (You've Been Good to Me)", "I Feel So Fine", "Oh Lord", "City Blues", "Heroes and Villains", "I Said A Prayer" (early demo of "This Isn't Love"): been circulating for many many years, being repeatedly taken off Youtube whenever it is discovered there

- "Cry Like a Baby" and two other untitled songs: ubooted Brian songs

- "Labor Day": reported to be Dennis' final studio recording, unheard but hopefully out there


1983

- "California Dreamin'" (alternate version): earlier attempt with Mike on lead

- Brian and Carl sessions: unbooted. Unknown what these were like, need to get my hands on this

- Carl demo sessions: unbooted

- "Black Widow" (piano demo), "The First Time" (demo mix): booted

- "It's Just a Matter of Time": a live version with Brian on lead vocals, he sounds better here than he does on the '85 album


1984 - The Beach Boys (self-titled album) era

- "Getcha Back" (alternate extended mix), "She Believes In Love Again" (alternate mix), "California Calling" (Al lead vocal): booted

- "Down By the Pier", "And I Always Will", "At the Hop": covers, only "At the Hop" is booted, and it might be better off kept in the vault

- "Buzz, Buzz, Buzz": unbooted live cover

- "Oh Lord": unbooted. Apparently the group attempted a recording of Brian's song that he demoed in the Cocaine Sessions

- "Water Builds Up": unbooted. A song Brian later recorded on his own for the Sweet Insanity album


1986 - Wilson Project era

- "Sweetie", "Rings", "Walking on Water", "Don't Let Her Know She's an Angel": booted piano demos by Brian

- "Rock and Roll to the Rescue" (alternate extended mix): not available for streaming, don't think the original version is either

- "Wouldn't That Be Cool": a Brian song attempted during sessions for Made in U.S.A. with a co-lead vocal from Terry Melcher

- "Spirit of Rock and Roll": unbooted live version with the Boys

- Wilson Project recordings: Brian's first serious work on a solo album done with Gary Usher and under the watchful eye of Dr. Landy. Here is what's booted; "Christine" (and it's other version "Barbie", made for Mattel), "Doing Time on Planet Earth" (early version of "Being With the One You Love" made for a movie of the same title), "He Couldn't Get His Poor Old Body to Move" (early version with more Brian-y lyrics before Lindsay Buckingham came in to collaborate), "Heavenly Bodies", "Christmas Time", "Just Say No"

- and what is unbooted from those sessions; "I'm Broke" (early version of Paley era song), "I'm Tired", "A Little Love", "Magic", "All Over Me", "Still I Dream of You" (a rerecording of "Still I Dream of It"), "Magnetic Attraction" (apparently two versions exist), "You" (demo), "Up In the Sky" (early "There's So Many" demo), "Night Time" (demo), "Being With the One You Love" (early version),


1987 - Brian Wilson solo album era

- "Saturday Morning in the City" (early version); booted

- "I Feel This Love", "Saturday Evening in the City" (I would guess a companion piece to "Saturday Morning"), "Boogie Woogie Beat", "Water Builds Up" (early version), "The Spirit of Rock and Roll" (another mix) : unbooted


1988

- "Hotter", "Heavenly Lovers", "Love Ya", "God Only Knows" (live), "I Sleep Alone", "Love and Mercy" (backing track and backing vocals), "Meet Me in My Dreams Tonight" (alternate mix with different lyrics), "Baby Let Your Hair Grow Long" (alternate mix with different lyrics), "Walk the Line" (mix with Terrence Trent Darby in a duet with Brian): booted

- "Must Be a Miracle" (early version): unbooted


1990 - Sweet Insanity era

- Sweet Insanity sessions, booted; "Brian (Thank You)", "Do You Have Any Regrets?", "Don't Let Her Know She's an Angel", "Let's Stick Together", "Rainbow Eyes", "Make a Wish" (original mix and backing track), "Concert Tonight" (plus the extended mix), "Someone to Love", "Spirit of Rock and Roll" (yet another mix), "Smart Girls", "Water Builds Up" (original mix and backing track), "Country Feelin"

- "In My Life" and "Let It Be": Beatle covers done with Landy shudder


1992 - start of Paley Sessions era

- Paley Sessions: a treasure trove of fantastic material from Brian through the early and mid 90's, a good amount has been bootlegged in varying quality but much is still disappointingly unreleased. Here is what circulates from this year; "Proud Mary" (Carl was present for at least some of this recording and it was redone with Don Was)


1993

- "God Did It" and "Chain Reaction of Love": booted


1994

- "It's Not Easy Bein' Me" and "Elbow '63": booted

- "Off My Chest", "Right Before Your Eyes", a few untitled songs: unbooted


1995

- "Dancin' the Night Away", "Mary Ann", "Marketplace", "Must Be a Miracle": booted

- "Grace of My Heart", "I'm Psyched", "Turn On Your Love Light": unbooted

Other bootlegged songs from the Paley sessions without dates to my knowledge: "Slightly American Music", "Frankie Avalon", "What Rock and Roll Can Do"

"This Song Wants to Sleep with You Tonight", "This Isn't Love" (piano version), "In My Moondreams", "Sweets for My Sweet": all unavailable for streaming

(Let's hope we won't have to wait until the early 2040's for an official release for all of the Paley session material)

- "Everything I Need" (original version with Wendy & Carnie and a mix with Brian on lead)


2012 - That's Why God Made the Radio era

- "I'd Go Anywhere": apparently unused part of Brian's suite from the end of the album, bits of it can be heard here since it was used in a behind the scenes EPK of the album with interviews played over it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1MWbi5jjh4  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1MWbi5jjh4)

- "She Believes in Love Again": remake of the Bruce song from 85. See you in 2062 for these hot tracks!!

-"Waves of Love": if it was even worked on? Al offered it for the album. Who knows if the Beach Boys (outside of Carl and Al) ever touched it

-supposedly there were like 29 tracks overall recorded for this album. Whether or not any ended up on No Pier Pressure is another question though



I'll try and update this as more information becomes available. Let's hope and pray much of this becomes available for streaming sooner rather than later. Big thank you to Salty and Do You Like Veggies for the fact checking here.


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: Love Thang on July 04, 2017, 05:54:56 PM
Hopefully before I die there will be 180 gram vinyl releases of Country Love, First Love, and LBWL. I can't wait to play Wrinkles so loudly that no burgler will ever come near my home.


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: Dove Nested Towers on July 07, 2017, 01:43:56 AM
Hopefully before I die there will be 180 gram vinyl releases of Country Love, First Love, and LBWL. I can't wait to play Wrinkles so loudly that no burgler will ever come near my home.

HA!

Want to add the "I've Got A Friend" instrumental track to the list of (hopefully) likely candidates, one of the best unheard things out there. AND the supposedly magnificent rehearsals for the abortive DW POB solo tour.


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: Stephen W. Desper on July 07, 2017, 05:56:11 AM
especially "Carnival" for all of it's channel-swapping charm

COMMENT to jackjachman:  You can hear Carnival (with explanation) at my website.  See: Addendum to Part One of Recording The Beach Boys.
~swd
http://swdstudyvideos.com  


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: jiggy22 on July 07, 2017, 10:14:56 AM
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- "Crack the Whip" and "When I Get Mad (I Just Play My Drums)", both Jasper Daily collobrations with Brian. If "Teeter Totter Love" was any indication, it's best this remained on the cutting room floor
Both lost.

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- "Good News" and "Good Time Mama", both recorded during the Smiley Smile sessions
Previously talked about in one of the Sunshine Tomorrow topics. "Good News" was deemed unreleasable, and no tapes for "Good Time Mama" exist (and has been theorized to have just been a working title for the last section of "She's Goin' Bald".

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- "New Song", Our Happy Home", "You're As Cool As Can Be", "My Little Red Book": all of them exist and seem releasable, only "My Little Red Book" has been booted
"New Song" actually HAS been booted, commonly referred to as "Indian Wisdom", "Spanish Guitar Instrumental", "Margarita", etc.

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- "You Never Give Me Your Money": YES PLEASE (if it's anything more than a very loose post-session jam)
That's exactly what it is. A run-through take of "Good Time" transitioned into a very loose, incomplete jam of "You Never Give Me Your Money".

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- "Spark In the Dark", "Body Talk", "Is Jack Reilly Superman?", "Gimme Some Lovin'", "Rooftop Harry", "Telephone Backgrounds": all sound quite intriguing, and would be good to find out if "Spark In the Dark" has any relation to "Funky Pretty" or if it's just a term Brian likes
"Gimme Some Lovin'" is lost. Hard to say if "Is Jack Rieley Superman" was even recorded, or it was even its own song as opposed to a temporary name given to another W.I.P. track. "Spark in the Dark" has no relation to "Funky Pretty". Apparently, it's an instrumental featuring a riff later heard in Brian's "Chain Reaction of Love".


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on July 07, 2017, 03:13:45 PM
I think there should be a Brian is Back box set. Including 15 Big Ones/Love You albums and sessions. As well as unreleased material from that period. As well as an official release of Adult Child. Include maybe a DVD of highlights of Brian on the road and interviews from 76-78ish. I don't know if there would be any money in something like this, but I would pay $100 for it!


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: ForHerCryingSoul on July 07, 2017, 03:21:02 PM
I think there should be a Brian is Back box set. Including 15 Big Ones/Love You albums and sessions. As well as unreleased material from that period. As well as an official release of Adult Child. Include maybe a DVD of highlights of Brian on the road and interviews from 76-78ish. I don't know if there would be any money in something like this, but I would pay $100 for it!
Added they should throw in a restoration of Brian is Back, and some of the live performances from the era.  I would also pay $100 for it if not more...


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on July 07, 2017, 03:48:50 PM
I think there should be a Brian is Back box set. Including 15 Big Ones/Love You albums and sessions. As well as unreleased material from that period. As well as an official release of Adult Child. Include maybe a DVD of highlights of Brian on the road and interviews from 76-78ish. I don't know if there would be any money in something like this, but I would pay $100 for it!
Added they should throw in a restoration of Brian is Back, and some of the live performances from the era.  I would also pay $100 for it if not more...

Absolutely!


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: jackjachman on July 07, 2017, 05:14:51 PM
especially "Carnival" for all of it's channel-swapping charm

COMMENT to jackjachman:  You can hear Carnival (with explanation) at my website.  See: Addendum to Part One of Recording The Beach Boys.
~swd
http://swdstudyvideos.com  


Many many thanks to you as always, Stephen! There isn't a more definitive voice on the band's music from this period outside of the members themselves. You are doing such valuable work with these study videos, they're crucial for truly appreciating the work you guys did way back when.


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: Mr Fulton on July 08, 2017, 12:27:48 AM
Isint Burlesque lost as well? I heard somewhere that if it existed it would have been released by now cause it was pretty good


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: PetSmile on July 08, 2017, 08:24:30 AM
Hopefully Smile remastered and remixed in stereo.


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: Ram4 on July 08, 2017, 09:25:48 AM
Why not a December download of the 1966-67 Smile tracks that were left off the box?  Plus a stereo mix of Smile.  They could also include more Smiley Smile, Wild Honey and live material that didn't fit on Sunshine Tomorrow.


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: ForHerCryingSoul on July 08, 2017, 10:25:32 AM
Isint Burlesque lost as well? I heard somewhere that if it existed it would have been released by now cause it was pretty good
That would make me very sad personally.  Maybe BW can rerecord it or something...  :(


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: jackjachman on July 10, 2017, 04:27:59 PM
Have updated the list up to 1981, what seems like the last year of the band's 20 year streak of recording new material with some regularity until the '85 album sessions. There is a LOT to go through here, sorry if it's too unwieldy in it's detail. Good to have a conjoined list of all this wonderful and mysterious music, reading some highlights here gets me really excited for the future of this group, seems like we're definitely gonna be seeing this stuff start to trickle out soon enough. Let me know if I'm missing anything/gotten anything wrong, there's a lot to go through.


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: Mr Fulton on July 10, 2017, 04:36:17 PM
I'm A Man Is Not A Cover. Despite what Bellagio and Wikipedia says, Brian wrote the song


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: jiggy22 on July 10, 2017, 06:45:00 PM
You forgot "Surfer Suzie" from the KTSA era. That's one that I really wanna hear, apparently it's supposed to be surprisingly good!


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: Joel Goldenberg on July 11, 2017, 09:34:56 AM
Carl's Where We Are is a fantastic song.


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: Ed Roach on July 11, 2017, 10:37:05 AM

Want to add the "I've Got A Friend" instrumental track to the list of (hopefully) likely candidates, one of the best unheard things out there. AND the supposedly magnificent rehearsals for the abortive DW POB solo tour.

One of my biggest regrets from visiting John Hanlon & Jon Stebbins in the studio for the mixing of Bambu was not having time to listen to the rehearsal tapes...  (Sadly, I do seem to recall that none of these recordings include DW vocals).  However, I was present for many of these rehearsals, (sometimes with Dennis, sometimes just wandering in to visit the band and listen by myself), and they were extraordinary!
The rehearsals took place in the back room of Brother, (in what was normally the room where the equipment was stored, and originally was rented to house the studio's return from the Netherlands), and I can't recall what format they were recorded on, (Jon, a little help here), but they were a portent of how monumental these shows were going to be!  Ah, Dennis, if only...


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: HeyJude on July 11, 2017, 11:37:29 AM
Carl's Where We Are is a fantastic song.

I've never looked up the intricate details of that particular track, but was it recorded as part of Carl's solo deal with Caribou? If so, then I would guess Caribou/Guercio/Sony might have a claim on that track.

I wouldn't personally put that song in the top tier of unreleased tracks; it's a pleasant song of, not surprisingly, a similar ilk as his solo albums.

I had always hoped Carl's solo albums would be reissued with the "My Father's Place" live show as a bonus; but that of course didn't happen.


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: HeyJude on July 11, 2017, 11:41:06 AM
Regarding the "Cocaine Tapes" as listed above, there's no way they'd ever release all of it or even a substantive part of it. It's probably highly unlikely they'd put *any* of it out, but if they did they'd maybe try to extract a decent edit of "Oh Lord" and "City Blues" and not much else. I'm not even 100% certain Brian and Dennis knew they were being recorded, and I'm not 100% certain anybody knows who owns the tape.

It's not a particularly listenable tape. It's obviously interesting and poignant, but the only reason I'd ever advocate for releasing anything from it is due to the pure, raw emotion Brian brings to "Oh Lord", and the interesting chord progressions on "City Blues" (my mind was blown when Brian re-recorded it in 2004; and then I was disappointed because the final track sounds way too busy and cluttered and muddy; simply put: overproduced). 



Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: CenturyDeprived on July 11, 2017, 12:06:38 PM
Regarding the "Cocaine Tapes" as listed above, there's no way they'd ever release all of it or even a substantive part of it. It's probably highly unlikely they'd put *any* of it out, but if they did they'd maybe try to extract a decent edit of "Oh Lord" and "City Blues" and not much else. I'm not even 100% certain Brian and Dennis knew they were being recorded, and I'm not 100% certain anybody knows who owns the tape.

It's not a particularly listenable tape. It's obviously interesting and poignant, but the only reason I'd ever advocate for releasing anything from it is due to the pure, raw emotion Brian brings to "Oh Lord", and the interesting chord progressions on "City Blues" (my mind was blown when Brian re-recorded it in 2004; and then I was disappointed because the final track sounds way too busy and cluttered and muddy; simply put: overproduced). 



If they actually released City Blues, wouldn't that cause them to have to address the fact (it is regarded more or less as a fact, right?) that Denny actually cowrote the song, but oddly wasn't credited on its only official release on Brian's GIOMH album? That's always been a head-scratcher.


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on July 11, 2017, 12:21:12 PM
There's supposedly a Beach Boys attempt at Oh Lord, but I'm not sure if anyone has heard it.  Maybe it's one of those 15 songs Howie was referring to a couple weeks ago.


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: HeyJude on July 11, 2017, 12:26:46 PM
There's supposedly a Beach Boys attempt at Oh Lord, but I'm not sure if anyone has heard it.  Maybe it's one of those 15 songs Howie was referring to a couple weeks ago.

They supposedly worked on it (or, at least Brian along with Steve Levine did) in 1984 for the BB '85 album. I don't think I've ever heard or read an actual description of what's on the recording. It could well be a backing track or partial backing track with no vocals.

I recall that they worked on several songs not finished for the album, including possibly Al's "And I Always Will", which he of course put on his solo album 25 years later.


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: Mr Fulton on July 11, 2017, 06:37:08 PM
They also worked on a song called Down By The Pier with Carl on lead vocals in 1984


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: tpesky on July 11, 2017, 06:56:52 PM
Still waiting for that Live Box. For a band that did so many concerts, the lack of live material released is criminal. Some of it is trickling out now on the MIC box and Sunshine Tomorrow, but still so much out there.  I would love one of the concerts from the summer of 76.


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: Ed Roach on July 11, 2017, 11:03:12 PM
Still waiting for that Live Box. For a band that did so many concerts, the lack of live material released is criminal. Some of it is trickling out now on the MIC box and Sunshine Tomorrow, but still so much out there.  I would love one of the concerts from the summer of 76.

How bout the earlier 70's stuff, with Blondie & Ricky?  Carl was so tough, (no pun), on the earlier recordings for the In Concert album.  And then, in true Beach Boy fashion, they totally blew it, and released an album that didn't feel like a live concert at all.  Well, maybe didn't totally blow it, cause there are some great tracks on there, but it doesn't have the flow that anyone who was there witnessed


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: jackjachman on December 04, 2017, 09:52:14 PM
According to the new copy of Endless Summer Quarterly, the end of year copyright extension release will be: "Sunshine Tomorrow 2 - 29 additional tracks from the Smiley Smile sessions, the Lei'd in Hawaii Wally Heider Studio sessions, and the Wild Honey sessions, including the unreleased "Good News"
Live Sunshine - 109 performances from 7 shows in 5 states during the 1967 tour"

Sounds amazing! Plus, the release of "Good News", previously thought to be unreleasable. And all those live tracks too..... they need to better manage the release of these things, especially when it comes to all the amazing music the band didn't put out during their artistic period post-Pet Sounds, stuff that music fans could totally be interested in.


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: jackjachman on August 08, 2018, 12:29:49 PM
Still no word on the 2018 copyright releases, which I think we've all realized is due to the promotion of the Philharmonic album (which is honestly not for me, the whole point of Brian's work was his complex and groundbreaking arrangements, how could you top that?). But it's interesting that Brian's official facebook page posted this yesterday: https://www.facebook.com/officialbrianwilson/posts/10157271726357241 (https://www.facebook.com/officialbrianwilson/posts/10157271726357241)

It's the "Walk On By" cover released on the CD twofers way back when, but seeing as that song is still not available digitally, they instead posted the superb and beautiful edit done by steel7866, which I'm not sure if they post here, but if so, huge congrats dude! The official page of the man himself endorsed your mix, couldn't think of a more higher compliment.

So considering this was recorded in 1968, could this mean a possible release on streaming services of the originally released of the 55 second version, and maybe because of the popularity of the extended mix (90,000 views for a fan edit of an unknown cover is pretty damn good), maybe an officially edited version by Mark Linnett and Alan Boyd to make it extended? It's such an amazing piece of unfinished music that I don't mind it looping again and again.


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: Til...I...@died on August 08, 2018, 02:49:37 PM
Gotta hear Til I Die piano demo


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on August 08, 2018, 10:02:17 PM
Thatís on my must hear list


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: Jay on August 08, 2018, 10:08:40 PM
That, and the one with alternate lyrics.


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on August 09, 2018, 05:08:07 AM
Still no word on the 2018 copyright releases, which I think we've all realized is due to the promotion of the Philharmonic album (which is honestly not for me, the whole point of Brian's work was his complex and groundbreaking arrangements, how could you top that?). But it's interesting that Brian's official facebook page posted this yesterday: https://www.facebook.com/officialbrianwilson/posts/10157271726357241 (https://www.facebook.com/officialbrianwilson/posts/10157271726357241)

It's the "Walk On By" cover released on the CD twofers way back when, but seeing as that song is still not available digitally, they instead posted the superb and beautiful edit done by steel7866, which I'm not sure if they post here, but if so, huge congrats dude! The official page of the man himself endorsed your mix, couldn't think of a more higher compliment.

So considering this was recorded in 1968, could this mean a possible release on streaming services of the originally released of the 55 second version, and maybe because of the popularity of the extended mix (90,000 views for a fan edit of an unknown cover is pretty damn good), maybe an officially edited version by Mark Linnett and Alan Boyd to make it extended? It's such an amazing piece of unfinished music that I don't mind it looping again and again.

That's my mix. Holy sh*t! Thanks for the heads up - that made my day.


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: jackjachman on August 10, 2018, 03:40:10 PM
Still no word on the 2018 copyright releases, which I think we've all realized is due to the promotion of the Philharmonic album (which is honestly not for me, the whole point of Brian's work was his complex and groundbreaking arrangements, how could you top that?). But it's interesting that Brian's official facebook page posted this yesterday: https://www.facebook.com/officialbrianwilson/posts/10157271726357241 (https://www.facebook.com/officialbrianwilson/posts/10157271726357241)

It's the "Walk On By" cover released on the CD twofers way back when, but seeing as that song is still not available digitally, they instead posted the superb and beautiful edit done by steel7866, which I'm not sure if they post here, but if so, huge congrats dude! The official page of the man himself endorsed your mix, couldn't think of a more higher compliment.

So considering this was recorded in 1968, could this mean a possible release on streaming services of the originally released of the 55 second version, and maybe because of the popularity of the extended mix (90,000 views for a fan edit of an unknown cover is pretty damn good), maybe an officially edited version by Mark Linnett and Alan Boyd to make it extended? It's such an amazing piece of unfinished music that I don't mind it looping again and again.

That's my mix. Holy sh*t! Thanks for the heads up - that made my day.


No problem, man! It's more than well deserved, your mixes rule. Especially love the "Our Sweet Love" version with extra Brian vocals, it's the only version of the song I listen to now.


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: jackjachman on August 19, 2018, 06:25:47 PM
Updated to include much more bootlegged and non-bootlegged material, including the rest of the 80's and 90's. A staggering amount of songs, and just goes to show that even with the pool of unheard Beach Boys songs is shrinking every year, there is still an entire catalogue worth of bootlegged music that is crying out to be released.

Does anybody have a year in particular they're looking forward to? 1972 seems like a creatively fertile time for the group, can't wait to hear what's in store for that one. The Love You era also holds a special place in my heart, hearing alternate versions of those songs and those charming piano demos in studio quality would be a dream.


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: Jim V. on August 19, 2018, 11:41:42 PM
So overall this is pretty darn good, but I think I'd lose some of the opinionated commentary, and there are also a few facts that you've gotten wrong. Also, CD is digital, so when you're saying something isn't available digitally, perhaps you should say "it's not available for purchase on iTunes, Amazon, etc.Ē

I'm going to post a few of things that in my opinion should be changed. Also, in addition to those changes, I think it would make sense to remove things like "single mixes" becuz obviously they have already been released.


1964

-"What'd I Say" (live): only released without Beach Boys authorization on an Australian Beach Boys comp if memory serves. I honestly can't believe this never got re-released just based on the fact that it's a good version of a song otherwise unavailable by The Beach Boys at one of their career high points. Seems like an obvious box set inclusion to me.

1966 - SMiLE era

- "Child Is Father Of The Man" (Brian's full mono instrumental mix): self explanatory.

- "Barnyard" (backing track w/ background vocals): somehow omitted from The SMiLE Sessions


1968 - Friends, early 20/20 era

- early 70's Friends remakes; "Passing By", "Wake the World", "Be Still" and "Friends": Stanley Shapiro and Tandyn Almer worked with Brian on these rerecordings, never circulated (perhaps this belongs in 1971 or 1972)

1972 - Carl & the Passions "So Tough", Holland era

- "California Saga: On My Way Sunny Cali-for-nia" (single mix): Released in 1973 as a single! Ergo the single mix. Available on CD on both the UK Ten years of Harmony and Greatest Hits Vol. 3 or whatever it's calleder it's called. Truthfully shouldn't be on list as it's been released.[/b]

- "Cuddle Up" (single mix): rare, but booted (Perhaps not necessary as it's already been released, though it's rarity does merit inclusion perhaps


1975 - early "Brian Is Back" era

- "Come to the Sunshine": Brian's cover of a Van Dyke Parks song, supposed to be lost

- "Carl's Song": unbooted early version of "Angel Come Home"

- "Grateful We Are for Little Children": unbooted early version of "Saturday Morning in the City"

- "In the Back of My Mind" (piano demo): still don't think this exists for sale through iTunes or the like, was a bonus track for the Target release of No Pier Pressure I believe. A beautiful and revealing version with altered lyrics by Brian and features him prominently switching between his more coarse 15 Big Ones voice with the soaring falsetto from his younger voice

1976 - 15 Big Ones, Love You era

 - "Michael Row the Boat Ashore", "Mony Mony", "Rock & Roll Music" ("hot" mix) one suspects that the version on Made In California is at least a re-creation of this verion, "Come Go With Me" (original mix), "Ruby Baby", "Short Skirts", "Running Bear", "10,000 Years Ago", "On Broadway", "Sea Cruise", "We Gotta Groove", "Marilyn Rovell", "Lazy Lizzie", "Hey There Momma", "Let Us Go On This Way" (a capella mix): booted

- "Don't Fight the Sea": unbooted, I assume an early version of the Al song he tried to include on That's Why God Made the Radio? Not true. He offered "Waves of Love" for TWGMTR. He did however, release "Don't Fight the Sea" on his solo album, A Postcard from California. The song featured Brian, Mike, Carl and Bruce, effectively making a Beach Boys track in all but name

- "It's Like Heaven": booted. Recorded with Brian and Marilyn on vocals, I assume it predates the American Spring version (Where on earth have you heard a version with Brian and Marilyn on vocals? I need to hear this


1978 - M.I.U. and Bambu era

- "I'm Begging You Please": Brian demo, much better than almost any of his other original songs released from this year (Really? If we are counting songs that he worked on or reviewed for use in '78, I think "Good Timin'" and "California Feelin'" both rank high above this one

- "California Feelin'" (original mix): more synthy and without Brian (lead) vocals


1980 - Keepin' the Summer Alive and beyond

- "Be My Baby", "Smokey Places", "River Deep, Mountain High", "Greenback Dollar": covers with Brian involvement. Only the first two are booted ("Smokey Places" is booted?



1981

- "Be My Baby",  "River Deep, Mountain High", "Greenback Dollar": covers with Brian involvement.

-"I'm A Man" also recorded. New BW song, not the classic Spencer Davis tune.

1986 - Made in U.S.A. era

-"Wouldn't That Be Cool": a Brian Wilson original, per Alan Boyd. Attempted during Made in U.S.A sessions. Apparently shares similarities with American Spring's "Do Ya" (also co-written by BW)

2012 - That's Why God Made The Radio era

-"I'd Go Anywhere": another Brian track, apparently was at some point part of the "suite"
-"She Believes in Love Again": new version Bruce's tune from the 1985 album
-"Waves of Love": if it was even worked on? Who knows if the Beach Boys (outside of Carl and Al) ever touched it
-supposedly there were like 29 tracks overall recorded for this album. Whether or not any ended up on No Pier Pressure is another question though



Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: Aomdiddlywalla on August 20, 2018, 04:29:03 AM
Still no word on the 2018 copyright releases, which I think we've all realized is due to the promotion of the Philharmonic album (which is honestly not for me, the whole point of Brian's work was his complex and groundbreaking arrangements, how could you top that?). But it's interesting that Brian's official facebook page posted this yesterday: https://www.facebook.com/officialbrianwilson/posts/10157271726357241 (https://www.facebook.com/officialbrianwilson/posts/10157271726357241)

It's the "Walk On By" cover released on the CD twofers way back when, but seeing as that song is still not available digitally, they instead posted the superb and beautiful edit done by steel7866, which I'm not sure if they post here, but if so, huge congrats dude! The official page of the man himself endorsed your mix, couldn't think of a more higher compliment.

So considering this was recorded in 1968, could this mean a possible release on streaming services of the originally released of the 55 second version, and maybe because of the popularity of the extended mix (90,000 views for a fan edit of an unknown cover is pretty damn good), maybe an officially edited version by Mark Linnett and Alan Boyd to make it extended? It's such an amazing piece of unfinished music that I don't mind it looping again and again.

That's my mix. Holy sh*t! Thanks for the heads up - that made my day.


selteab needs a call from the 'powers that be' to help with some nob twiddling and copy paste marlarky....


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: DeanEntwistle on March 20, 2020, 01:40:57 PM
With explosion of high-quality unreleased songs found on the Sunshine Tomorrow compilation, including several names that had been floating around for awhile but never booted like "Game of Love" and "Honey Get Home", I was curious to see if we can come up with a basic idea for what tracks we can hope will finally be unleashed upon people's ears. This is all assuming that Brother Records continues their yearly release cycle of copyright extension albums, which they show no sign of slowing down with.

I've combined the likes of the "Vaults" page (http://esquarterly.com/bellagio/vaults.html (http://esquarterly.com/bellagio/vaults.html)) (also found here in more readable form: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unreleased_songs_recorded_by_the_Beach_Boys (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unreleased_songs_recorded_by_the_Beach_Boys)), the Proposed Brother Bonus Tracks thread (http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,17621.0.html (http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,17621.0.html), and my own personal collection of bootlegs to give a good idea of what exactly is still out there and if it will ever see the light of day. Of course, we have no way of knowing if any of this was releasable at all, and I trust Mark Linnett and Alan Boyd more than enough now to know they wouldn't leave off anything truly juicy when it comes to these annual compilations.


1967 - SMiLE, Smiley Smile, Lei'd In Hawaii, Wild Honey era

- "On Top of Old Smoky": the most intriguing song left off Sunshine Tomorrow, this apparently features Brian and Paul McCartney on vocals. Hard to believe this was actually the case, since a recording like that would be insanely sought after by Beatle and Beach Boys fans alike. It could be made up, or a big fat disappointment like the jam Paul and John Lennon had in 1974 that turned out be a whole lotta nothing. Still, the mystery lives on

- "Sunflower Maiden": Brian and Van Dyke Parks song written for Three Dog Night. Apparently lost

- Lei'd In Hawaii studio rehearsal sessions; "Surfin'", "God Only Knows", "Good Vibrations", "California Girls", "Surfer Girl": Brian running through some of the songs they would play live on an organ with his faint vocals heard in the background. Not extremely necessary, but I certainly enjoy putting them on sometimes, if not just to Brian play all of "Good Vibrations" on an organ

- backing tracks to; "Gettin' Hungry", "She's Goin' Bald", "Wind Chimes" (Smiley version), "Vegetables" (Smiley version): booted

- SMiLE backing tracks: booted, should already have been released years ago


1968 - Friends, early 20/20 era

- "Friends" (alternate mix): booted

- 1971 Friends remakes; "Passing By", "Wake the World", "Be Still" and "Friends": Stanley Shapiro and Tandyn Almer worked with Brian on these rerecordings. Only "Passing By" with lyrics has been released, the others are assumed to have been lost, especially considering that "Passing By" was sourced from a low-quality backup cassette

- "Fig Plucker": Dennis leading some of the group through a tongue-twister about a fig plucker

- backing tracks to; "Meant for You", "Wake the World", "We're Together Again": booted


1969 - 20/20, early Sunflower era

- "Harmony Friends" - name of the soaring vocal-only coda to "Break Away" booted as a standalone 2 minute track, a treat for the ears

- "What Can the Matter Be" and "Raspberries, Strawberries": unreleased to my knowledge

- "I'm Going Your Way (California Slide)": available on boots, not a bad track but missing any backing vocals

- "'Til I Die" (piano demo) - the holy grail of unheard Beach Boys songs. I have to hear this in my lifetime, this much I know

- "(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again" (demo): anything related to this song must be released ASAP

- "America, I Know You" (backing track): unbooted collaboration with Stephen Kalinich


1970 - Sunflower era

- "This Whole World" (alternate vocals/long version): please release this

- "Big Sur" (4/4 version): beautiful

- "Take A Load Off Your Feet, Pete" (original mix), "Add Some Music to Your Day" (original lyrics), "Tears In the Morning" (original lyrics), "When Girls Get Together" (both original mix and original instrumental track), "Loop de Loop" (original mix), "Our Sweet Love" (backing track with Brian vocals), "Slip on Through" (backing track), "It's About Time" (percussion mix with some dazzling bongo playing), "Lady" (original mix): booted

- Fred Vail country album: a country album produced by Brian that has not been booted, tracks included; "Bethany Ann", "There's Always Something There To Remind Me", "Kittens, Kids & Kites, "Lucky Billy", "Black Man In Georgia", "One Woman Won't Hold Me", "Why Don't You Give Her To Me", "If You're Not Loving, You're Not Living", "All For The Love Of A Girl", "Only The Lonely", "Carolina On My  Mind", "My Way Of Life", "A Fool Such As I", "You Pass Me By", "I Can't Help It If I'm Still In Love With You"

- "Our Sweet Love" (piano demo), "Back Home" (demo), "Good Time" (original mix), "I Just Got My Pay" (original mix) - unbooted

- "You Never Give Me Your Money": unbooted jam after a session for "Good Time"

- "Carnival", "My Solution", and "Seasons in the Sun" are booted and worthy of being put out there, especially "Carnival" for all of it's channel-swapping charm and "My Solution" for that Halloween novelty weirdness. "Seasons in the Sun" doesn't work all that great with the Boys IMO

1971 - Surf's Up, early Carl & the Passions era

- "Lookin' At Tomorrow" (alternate mix), "Wouldn't It Be Nice (To Live Again) (extended mix), "'Til I Die" (alternate "uplifting" lyrics ), "4th of July" (original mix and alternate version), "Barnyard Blues" (demo): criminally unavailable

- "'Til I Die" (a capella) and "Surf's Up" (a capella): booted

-"This Whole World" (version done for an Eastern Airlines ad) and "H.E.L.P. Is on the Way" (early mix): unbooted

- "Ol' Movie": unbooted early version of "Cuddle Up"

- Dennis Wilson solo album sessions (known as Poops or Hubba Hubba); "Behold the Night", "Baby, Baby", "Sea Cruise", "It's a New Day" (the only song booted, was eventually finished with Blondie lead vocal)

- "Telephone Backgrounds (On A Clear Day)": unbooted Carl song

- "Hawaii Song": intriguing because I haven't heard anything about it

- "Happy Birthday Brian (29th Birthday)": sounds like a fun recording

- "Won't You Tell Me": real nice little duet between Brian and Carl. Hope it sees the light of day

- "Beatrice From Baltimore": early version of "You Need A Mess of Help to Stand Alone", unbooted. Would love to hear

- "I've Got A Friend": Dennis song played live in the early 70's (introduced by Mike Love as "one of the best songs I've ever heard"), apparently recorded in the studio without a vocal

- "Sail On, Sailor" (demo): I hope the location of this is accounted for


1972 - Carl & the Passions "So Tough", Holland era

- "Awake" (piano demo): one of the great Brian vocals from the era, a crystal clear sounding bootleg. There's also a high quality demo of "Ten Years Harmony", the original version of "Endless Harmony" floating around there

- "Daddy Dear", "Susie Cincinnati", "Fairy Tale Music" (with narration by Brian): piano demos played by Brian to somebody in Holland, the first two are both brief but worth release for showcasing some nice Brian vocals before the 15 Big Ones era, "Fairy Tale Music" may be from a different time Brian was playing his songs on the piano for a guest

- "Burlesque": Brian and Jack Riely song, Jack said in an interview that a line of lyric in it is "Tantalation and hot glowing skin/Sunís Ďbout to rest"

- "Funky Fever" and "Gimme Some Lovin'": unbooted songs recorded by Brian and David Sandler

- "Quad Symphony": any sort of edit or sections of this would be welcome to hear in better condition than the boots it's on

- "Spark In the Dark", "Body Talk", "Is Jack Reilly Superman?", "Rooftop Harry", "Slow Song": all sound quite intriguing

- "Out in the Country": booted in a somewhat skeletal form, as a more finished version with banjos and other instrumentation has been said to exist. The booted version works quite well on it's own I think, a bit like a more moody "Meant for You"

- "Hard Times": booted Ricky & Blondie song. Not their best, but completely worthy of becoming available

- "Carry Me Home": what I would call the most sought after unreleased recording that has been booted, fans have an emotional connection to this song that I have not seen with any other bootlegged material

- "California Saga: On My Way Sunny Cali-for-nia" (single mix): booted. With a bit more Brian vocals

- "The Trader" (early mix): unbooted shorter version, seems like it's just the first part of the song

- "Fairy Tale Music/A Casual Look" (demo version), "I'm the Pied Piper" (extended version), "Pa, Let Her Go Out" (early version of "Better Get Back In Bed"): unbooted. Love the music in the fairy tale, would be very interested to hear any of this

- "Cuddle Up" (single mix): rare, but booted

- "California Saga" (1974 live version with sitar): booted, might only exist as an audience recording


1973 - Holland and beyond

- "River Song" (original mix): booted. Recorded with the Beach Boys, seems the backing track was kept for Dennis' solo version

- "Dr. Tom" and "Canyon Summer": unbooted Al songs

- "Baby, I Need Your Lovin'/I'm a Man": unbooted medley from a Wilson/Sandler session

- "Ding Dang" and "Shortenin' Bread" (American Spring version): both unbooted, the beginning of the period where Brian recorded that same Shortenin' riff many times

- "Pattycake": unbooted (may have been lost). About a gorilla that Brian saw at the Bronx zoo


1974 - Caribou Sessions era

- "Honeycomb": unbooted cover recorded during the same session as "It's OK", also featuring Roy Wood of ELO and Wizzard on saxophone

- Carl demos: unbooted Moog and guitar demos

- "Shortenin' Bread"/"Clangin'": unsure if this is a version we've heard or not, referred to as "Brian's Jam" because it's a riff he's recorded many times throughout his career

- "Dennis' Symphony": unbooted early version of "Friday Night"

- "Just An Imitation": still hasn't been found

- Caribou sessions; "Good Timin'" (original track and lead vocal as well the instrumental version with horn section), "Ding Dang", "Is This Really Love", "Why Don't You Try Me?", "Rollin' Up to Heaven", "Earthquake Time", "You're Riding High On the Music", "Don't Let Me Go", "Our Live, Our Love, Our Land": only "Rollin' Up to Heaven" and both versions of "Good Timin'" circulate

- "Battle Hymn of the Republic": the less said about this, the better

- "Child of Winter": unbooted alternate mix with Carl and Dennis vocals


1975 - early "Brian Is Back" era

- "Come to the Sunshine": Brian's cover of a Van Dyke Parks song, supposed to be lost

- "Carl's Song": early version of "Angel Come Home", may be booted as an instrumental

- "Grateful We Are for Little Children": unbooted early version of "Saturday Morning in the City"

- "In the Back of My Mind" (piano demo): still don't think this exists digitally, was a bonus track for the Target release of No Pier Pressure I believe. A beautiful and revealing version with altered lyrics by Brian and features him prominently switching between his more coarse 15 Big Ones voice with the soaring falsetto from his younger voice

- unbooted Dennis Wilson songs; "Rainbows" (early version), "Slow Blues", "Don't Want Much, Just A Country Or Two, Maybe A Planet Before It's Through", "Helen Keller", "Our Love Remains", "Marble Sittin' On A Kitchen Table"


1976 - 15 Big Ones, Love You era

 - "Michael Row the Boat Ashore", "Mony Mony", "Rock & Roll Music" ("hot" mix), "Come Go With Me" (original mix), "Ruby Baby", "Short Skirts", "Running Bear", "10,000 Years Ago", "On Broadway", "Sea Cruise", "We Gotta Groove", "Marilyn Rovell", "Lazy Lizzie", "Hey There Momma", "Let Us Go On This Way" (a capella mix): booted

- "Don't Fight the Sea": unbooted, I assume an early version of the Al song he tried to include on That's Why God Made the Radio?

- unbooted Dennis songs; - "Life Symphony", "Flowers Come In the Spring" (might be a remake of "Fallin' In Love"), "I Didn't Mean to Make You Worry", "Taking Off", "2,000 Years Ago" (possibly just a misnamed "10,000 Years Ago"), "String Thing 2", "Long String Song" (lotta "String" songs from Dennis around this time)

- "It's Like Heaven": booted. Recorded with Brian and Marilyn on vocals, I assume it predates the American Spring version

- "Just Once In My Life" (backing track): one of the absolute highlights of all bootlegs I've heard

- "Let's Dance", "Secret Love", and "Working in the Coal Mine": unheard covers

- "When Girls Get Together" (15 Big Ones mix): unknown what this version is like

- "TM Song" (alternate mix with long intro and no lead vocals), "Lisa", "Gold Rush": not booted

- Love You piano demos; "That Special Feeling", "Airplane", "Mona", "I'll Bet He's Nice", "It's Over Now", "Still I Dream of It", "Let's Put Our Hearts Together", "Love Is A Woman", "Little Children": booted and very much worthy of release (worth noting that Brian's official instagram page has posted some minute long excerpts of these that are cleaner sounding than the boots that circulate but unfortunately the audio isn't preferable since the video is a recording of the song being played out of speakers rather than inserting the actual mp3)


1977 - Love You, Pacific Ocean Blue, and early M.I.U. era

- "The Night Was So Young" (early mix), "Love Is A Woman" (early mix with Al lead vocal), "Johnny Carson" (early mix with guitar intro), "Roller Skating Child" (early mix with different vocals), "I'll Bet He's Nice" (early mix), "Solar System" (early mix with no background vocals), "Clangin'", "11th Bar Blues": never booted

- "Honkin' Down the Highway" (alternate version with Billy Hinsche lead vocal and synth solo): booted

- Adult/Child sessions, booted; "Life Is for the Living" (studio version and backing track), "Lines" (also exists an early mix with different Brian vocal), "Everybody Wants to Live", "It's Trying to Say (Baseball)", "Deep Purple", "My Diane" (original mix without string section and demo mix), "Shortenin' Bread" (original mix), "New England Waltz", "Still I Dream of It" (alternate rougher Brian vocal)

- "Oh Darling", "Something New", "Crying", "Fever", "Here Comes the Sun": unbooted Dennis songs

- "Gimme Some Lovin'": unbooted, possibly same song as recorded in '72?

- "Mike Come Back to L.A.": any edit or rough version would be welcome, very fun and energetic track

- "How's About A Little Bit of Your Sweet Lovin'?", "Go and Get That Girl", "Beach Burlesque", "Egypt": the last two are unheard

- "Lady Lynda" (original mix): more superior version in my mind, lacks the classical music intro and the plasticky sound that Bruce Johnston productions have

- Merry Christmas From The Beach Boys sessions; "Christmas Medley" (an excellent medley of Christmas songs with the band and their children, "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen", "O Come All Ye Faithful", "Hark The Herald Angels Sing", and "We Wish You A Merry Christmas"), "Santa Is on His Way" (rerecording of "H.E.L.P. Is on the Way"), "Alone on Christmas Day", "Sad, Sad Christmas": no boot has "Sad, Sad Christmas", but it's the original version of "Sad, Sad Summer" so it probably isn't too different from that

- "Pacific Ocean Blue" (backing track): booted

- rehearsals for Dennis Wilson solo tour: according to Ed Roach, there is some beautiful stuff here that people have heard. Seems like it absolutely deserves uncovering


1978 - M.I.U. and Bambu era

- "Rubles", "Ride Arabian, Ride": unbooted Al songs

- "Santa Ana Winds" (original version and an alternate mix with more instrumentation and double-tracked vocals) and "Lookin' Down the Coast": two great works by Al with Brian, especially the original version of "Santa Ana Winds" with different lyrics, grander instrumentation, and lacking the very unnecessary spoken word intro, allegedly with Brian on harmonica

- "I'm Begging You Please": Brian demo, much better than almost any of his other original songs released from this year

- "Where We Are (It Could Be Anything)": early version of a Carl song, a nice listen

- "California Feelin'" (original mix): more synthy and without Brian vocals

- "Drip Drop": booted cover by Brian, although maybe not worth release for how off Brian sounds

- "Calendar Girl": booted cover with Mike on lead vocal with Brian singing the intro and providing backing vocals

- "I Really Love You", "Basketball Rock", "Bowling": unbooted. Last two are Brian instrumentals

- booted outtakes from Bambu; "Constant Companion" (extended alternate mix without backing vocals that is frankly far superior), "Baby Blue" (rough mix with no Dennis vocal) "Time for Bed" (backing track), "He's A Bum" (backing track), "Wild Situation" (backing track with backing vocals), "Love Surrounds Me" (backing track), "All Alone" (demo mix)

- and unbooted Bambu; "I Don't Want to Go" and "Let Me Out of Here"

1979 - L.A., Keepin' the Summer Alive era

- "Little Girl", "Jamaica Farewell", "Stranded In the Jungle", "Johnny B. Goode", "Smokey Places", "I'll Always Love You": covers recorded with Brian involvement, only the first song is booted in unfinished form

- "Boys and Girls": unbooted Brian song


1980 - Keepin' the Summer Alive and beyond

- "Oh Darlin'" (original version): features Brian on lead vocal with prominent Carl vocals, alternate lyrics, and a much less busy backing track, I prefer this one 1000x more than the studio version which is harmed by Bruce's overblown production

- "Goin' On" (original backing track): neat version with some charged-up drum solos not in the studio version

- "Be My Baby", "River Deep, Mountain High", "Smokey Places", "Greenback Dollar": covers with Brian involvement. Only the first two are booted

- "My Solution" and "Shortenin' Bread": booted instrumentals by Brian, possibly booted as "Song Within a Song"

- "Can't Wait Too Long": unbooted. Overdubs were attempted by the group

- "Fly", "Up Again", "Candlesticks", "I'm a Man": unbooted

- Dennis Wilson and Christie McVie sessions: unbooted


1981

- "Stevie": Brian/Dennis collaboration, possibly written by Brian with production by Dennis. Baffling why it hasn't been released, sounds so damn good and finished enough to put out there

- "I Ran (All the Way Home)": unbooted

- "Rings", "Walking On Water", "Sweetie": charming Brian piano demos


1982

- Cocaine Sessions material: "Why Don't You Tell Me Why (You've Been Good to Me)", "I Feel So Fine", "Oh Lord", "City Blues", "Heroes and Villains", "I Said A Prayer" (early demo of "This Isn't Love"): been circulating for many many years, being repeatedly taken off Youtube whenever it is discovered there

- "Cry Like a Baby" and two other untitled songs: ubooted Brian songs

- "Labor Day": reported to be Dennis' final studio recording, unheard but hopefully out there


1983

- Brian and Carl sessions: unbooted. Unknown what these were like, need to get my hands on this

- Carl demo sessions: unbooted

- "Turning Point", "Black Widow" (piano demo), "Don't Let Her Know She's an Angel" (piano demo), "The First Time" (demo mix): booted

- "It's Just a Matter of Time": a live version with Brian on lead vocals, he sounds quite good I have to say


1984 - The Beach Boys (self-titled album) era

- "Getcha Back" (alternate extended mix), "She Believes In Love Again" (alternate mix), "California Calling" (Al lead vocal): booted

- "Down By the Pier", "And I Always Will", "Buzz-Buzz-Buzz", "At the Hop": covers, only "At the Hop" is booted, and it might be better off kept in the vault

- "Oh Lord": unbooted. Apparently the group attempted a recording of Brian's song that he demoed in the Cocaine Sessions

- "Water Builds Up": unbooted. A song Brian later recorded on his own for the Sweet Insanity album


1986 - Wilson Project era

- "Rock and Roll to the Rescue" (alternate extended mix) and "California Dreamin'" (alternate version): booted

- "Spirit of Rock and Roll": unbooted version with the Beach Boys

- Wilson Project recordings: Brian's first serious work on a solo album done with Gary Usher and under the watchful eye of Dr. Landy. Here is what's booted; "Christine" (and it's other version "Barbie", made for Mattel), "Doing Time on Planet Earth" (early version of "Being With the One You Love" made for a movie of the same title), "He Couldn't Get His Poor Old Body to Move" (early version with more Brian-y lyrics before Lindsay Buckingham came in to collaborate), "Heavenly Lovers", "Heavenly Bodies", "Christmas Time", "Just Say No"

- and what is unbooted from those sessions; "I'm Broke" (early version of Paley era song), "So Long", "I'm Tired", "A Little Love", "Magic", "All Over Me", "Still I Dream of You" (possibly a rerecording of "Still I Dream of It"?), "Magnetic Attraction"


1987 - Brian Wilson solo album era

- "Let's Do It Again", "Spirit of Rock and Roll" (solo version), "Saturday Morning in the City" (early version); booted

- "I Feel This Love", "Saturday Evening in the City" (I would guess a companion piece to "Saturday Morning"), "Terri, She Needs Me" (yet another rewrite of "Sherry She Needs Me"?), "Boogie Woogie Beat": unbooted

1988

- "Hotter", "Love Ya", "God Only Knows" (live), "I Sleep Alone", "Love and Mercy" (backing track and backing vocals): booted


1990 - Sweet Insanity era

- Sweet Insanity sessions, booted; "Brian (Thank You)", "Do You Have Any Regrets?", "Don't Let Her Know She's an Angel", "Let's Stick Together", "Rainbow Eyes", "Make a Wish" (original mix and backing track), "Concert Tonight" (plus the extended mix), "Someone to Love", "Spirit of Rock and Roll" (yet another mix), "Smart Girls", "Water Builds Up" (original mix and backing track)


1992 - start of Paley Sessions era

- Paley Sessions: a treasure trove of fantastic material from Brian, a good amount has been bootlegged in varying quality but much is still disappointingly unreleased. Here is what circulates; "Proud Mary" (Carl was present for at least some of this recording) and "I'm Broke"


1993

- "God Did It" and "Chain Reaction of Love": booted


1994

- "Saturday Morning in the City", "Goin' Home" (original version), "It's Not Easy Bein' Me", "Desert Drive" (original mix), "Elbow '63": booted

- "Off My Chest" and a few untitled songs: unbooted


1995

- "Dancin' the Night Away", "Mary Ann", "Marketplace", "Must Be a Miracle", "You're Still a Mystery" (original version with earlier Brian vocal than the released version): booted

- "Grace of My Heart", "I'm Psyched", "Turn On Your Love Light": unbooted


Let's hope we won't have to wait until the early 2040's for an official release for all of the Paley session material


Since there really is STILL so much Beach Boys content out there waiting to be heard, my hope is they could group together a lot of the truly memorable unreleased songs and put them on a rarities collection that could drum up more interest in the band's more obscure periods without making prospective fans have to remember to buy/stream one of these collections every single year for the foreseeable future.
well, this list is so complete (well, some songs are missing) but yeah, let's revive this not-that old topic as some stuff on the list are now available and some will be available in some months with the release of the Feel Flows box set


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: jackjachman on September 27, 2020, 09:09:29 AM
I've edited and updated this with some much needed help from Beach Boys scholars, this has to be the most researched and vetted list of unreleased + bootlegged songs out there. Enjoy

Hopefully a lot of these will need to be removed once the Feel Flows boxset comes out, should be any day now, right?


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 27, 2020, 11:24:43 PM
Pinned this for now. Trying to set up a subforum for viral threads like this but having issues. Still working on it...


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: Unreconstructed Wilsonite on September 28, 2020, 12:38:05 AM
Would love to see Adult/Child finally get an official release - given that it's now been 40+ years and as far as I know was more or less completed. The original "Big Sur", "Carry Me Home" and "Hard Times" would all be very worthy releases as well


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: mtaber on September 28, 2020, 05:28:27 AM
Maybe I missed it, but is there talk of the 2nd Flame album ever seeing the light of day?


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: Ian on September 28, 2020, 11:33:34 AM
Produced by desper and he has tried to get it released in the past


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: Pet Sounder on December 16, 2020, 10:07:50 AM
I don't know the likelihood of seeing new releases on material more than 50 years old, but below is my dream list. I know some of this will be released on Feel Flows, but I'm hoping the rest will surface someday.

-Please Let Me Wonder backing track
-Please Let Me Wonder a cappella
-Kiss Me Baby backing track
-The Little Girl I Once Knew unedited sessions
-The Little Girl I Once Knew backing track
-All unedited Pet Sounds tracking sessions
-All Pet Sounds multi tracks
-We're Together Again backing track for original twofer version
-All I Wanna Do a cappella
-All I Wanna Do backing track
-Our Sweet Love backing track
-At My Window a cappella
-At My Window backing track
-Cool Cool Water backing track
-All Cool Cool Water vocal sessions (a la Stephen Desper's fascinating and sorely missed study video)


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: as1972 on December 19, 2020, 01:58:46 PM
I don't know the likelihood of seeing new releases on material more than 50 years old, but below is my dream list. I know some of this will be released on Feel Flows, but I'm hoping the rest will surface someday.

-Please Let Me Wonder backing track
-Please Let Me Wonder a cappella
-Kiss Me Baby backing track
-The Little Girl I Once Knew unedited sessions
-The Little Girl I Once Knew backing track
-All unedited Pet Sounds tracking sessions
-All Pet Sounds multi tracks
-We're Together Again backing track for original twofer version
-All I Wanna Do a cappella
-All I Wanna Do backing track
-Our Sweet Love backing track
-At My Window a cappella
-At My Window backing track
-Cool Cool Water backing track
-All Cool Cool Water vocal sessions (a la Stephen Desper's fascinating and sorely missed study video)


Is the TLGIOK backing track even possible? From what I recall it was partially taped over with that "psychedelic talk" tape.


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: thetojo on January 27, 2021, 03:02:56 PM
Can anyone describe the differences between the Eastern Airlines ad version of This Whole World and the stock version?


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: Dove Nested Towers on March 08, 2021, 12:42:04 AM

Want to add the "I've Got A Friend" instrumental track to the list of (hopefully) likely candidates, one of the best unheard things out there. AND the supposedly magnificent rehearsals for the abortive DW POB solo tour.

One of my biggest regrets from visiting John Hanlon & Jon Stebbins in the studio for the mixing of Bambu was not having time to listen to the rehearsal tapes...  (Sadly, I do seem to recall that none of these recordings include DW vocals).  However, I was present for many of these rehearsals, (sometimes with Dennis, sometimes just wandering in to visit the band and listen by myself), and they were extraordinary!
The rehearsals took place in the back room of Brother, (in what was normally the room where the equipment was stored, and originally was rented to house the studio's return from the Netherlands), and I can't recall what format they were recorded on, (Jon, a little help here), but they were a portent of how monumental these shows were going to be!  Ah, Dennis, if only...

Oh well, no vocals, that's a shame, nonetheless these rehearsals need to be released! I had understood that they were going to be the big archival release that year, until the Legacy POB/Bambu reissue gradually became the #1 priority. It must be very hard to get a physical release project greenlighted nowadays, but I hope Jim Guercio hasn't just put them on the back burner indefinitely, at least no more so than anything else during these times.


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: Dove Nested Towers on March 08, 2021, 12:45:36 AM
Also, Mr. Boyd had said once that there is high-quality, significant DW/Rumbo material left in the vaults. To me that would also be some of the most important stuff to let see the light of day, although the DW Estate/kids might be opposed to it.


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: c-man on March 08, 2021, 05:52:11 AM

Want to add the "I've Got A Friend" instrumental track to the list of (hopefully) likely candidates, one of the best unheard things out there. AND the supposedly magnificent rehearsals for the abortive DW POB solo tour.

One of my biggest regrets from visiting John Hanlon & Jon Stebbins in the studio for the mixing of Bambu was not having time to listen to the rehearsal tapes...  (Sadly, I do seem to recall that none of these recordings include DW vocals).  However, I was present for many of these rehearsals, (sometimes with Dennis, sometimes just wandering in to visit the band and listen by myself), and they were extraordinary!
The rehearsals took place in the back room of Brother, (in what was normally the room where the equipment was stored, and originally was rented to house the studio's return from the Netherlands), and I can't recall what format they were recorded on, (Jon, a little help here), but they were a portent of how monumental these shows were going to be!  Ah, Dennis, if only...

Oh well, no vocals, that's a shame, nonetheless these rehearsals need to be released! I had understood that they were going to be the big archival release that year, until the Legacy POB/Bambu reissue gradually became the #1 priority. It must be very hard to get a physical release project greenlighted nowadays, but I hope Jim Guercio hasn't just put them on the back burner indefinitely, at least no more so than anything else during these times.


There is a great and very intriguing track-by-track description of these POB tour rehearsal tapes, courtesy of Alan Boyd, in the pages of Ken Sharp's fantastic "Dreamer" book. The rehearsals were recorded to 2" 24-track tape, and while none seem to have a complete DW vocal performance, he does do some singing here-and-there.


Title: Re: What material we can expect from further archival releases
Post by: Dove Nested Towers on April 02, 2021, 08:01:07 PM

Want to add the "I've Got A Friend" instrumental track to the list of (hopefully) likely candidates, one of the best unheard things out there. AND the supposedly magnificent rehearsals for the abortive DW POB solo tour.

One of my biggest regrets from visiting John Hanlon & Jon Stebbins in the studio for the mixing of Bambu was not having time to listen to the rehearsal tapes...  (Sadly, I do seem to recall that none of these recordings include DW vocals).  However, I was present for many of these rehearsals, (sometimes with Dennis, sometimes just wandering in to visit the band and listen by myself), and they were extraordinary!
The rehearsals took place in the back room of Brother, (in what was normally the room where the equipment was stored, and originally was rented to house the studio's return from the Netherlands), and I can't recall what format they were recorded on, (Jon, a little help here), but they were a portent of how monumental these shows were going to be!  Ah, Dennis, if only...

Oh well, no vocals, that's a shame, nonetheless these rehearsals need to be released! I had understood that they were going to be the big archival release that year, until the Legacy POB/Bambu reissue gradually became the #1 priority. It must be very hard to get a physical release project greenlighted nowadays, but I hope Jim Guercio hasn't just put them on the back burner indefinitely, at least no more so than anything else during these times.


There is a great and very intriguing track-by-track description of these POB tour rehearsal tapes, courtesy of Alan Boyd, in the pages of Ken Sharp's fantastic "Dreamer" book. The rehearsals were recorded to 2" 24-track tape, and while none seem to have a complete DW vocal performance, he does do some singing here-and-there.

MUST get that book.


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: Tony S on April 04, 2021, 08:09:08 AM
I have it....GREAT READ!


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: Bedroom Tapes on April 20, 2021, 02:02:33 PM
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Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: Bedroom Tapes on June 03, 2021, 09:00:08 PM
Wishful thinking beyond "Feel Flows":

So Tough/Holland set, 15BO/Love You/Adult Child set, MIU to KTSA set, and finally whatever remains from '81 to BB85 era.   :hat


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: jparis51 on June 05, 2021, 06:57:18 AM
Wishful thinking beyond "Feel Flows":

So Tough/Holland set, 15BO/Love You/Adult Child set, MIU to KTSA set, and finally whatever remains from '81 to BB85 era.   :hat


Great list! And while this probably belongs in the Unpopular Opinions thread, I'd cap it with "The Terry Melcher Productions."


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: Dove Nested Towers on July 10, 2021, 03:40:15 AM
Wishful thinking beyond "Feel Flows":

So Tough/Holland set, 15BO/Love You/Adult Child set, MIU to KTSA set, and finally whatever remains from '81 to BB85 era.   :hat


Great list! And while this probably belongs in the Unpopular Opinions thread, I'd cap it with "The Terry Melcher Productions."

Consisting of, as well as early Bruce and Terry and Rip Chords, a two-album "Kokomo" sessions set, including painfully slow, meandering songwriting interludes with John Phillips, Scott McKenzie and ML.


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: All Summer Long on August 03, 2021, 09:28:13 PM
Comments/questions in italics.


1980 - Keepin' the Summer Alive era

- "Can't Wait Too Long" (1980 remake): unbooted. Overdubs were attempted by the group - I thought this was for Captwin and Tennille

- Dennis Wilson and Christie McVie sessions: no luck - no luck as in erased or lost to time?


1981

- "I Ran (All the Way Home)": unbooted - Is there any chance this is a cover of the song by the Impalas?


1984 - The Beach Boys (self-titled album) era

- "Down By the Pier", "And I Always Will", "At the Hop": covers, only "At the Hop" is booted, and it might be better off kept in the vault - I thought Al wrote And I Always Will, later re-recorded for Postcard, and that we didnít know who wrote Down by the Pier

- "Buzz, Buzz, Buzz": unbooted live cover - Technically it is somewhat booted because videos from 7/4/84 or 7/4/85 are on YouTube

- "Water Builds Up": unbooted. A song Brian later recorded on his own for the Sweet Insanity album - Interesting


1986 - Wilson Project era

- "Sweetie", "Rings", "Walking on Water", "Don't Let Her Know She's an Angel": booted piano demos by Brian - I thought at least one of these was from 1981 and that Brian added to an old demo tape

- "Rock and Roll to the Rescue" (alternate extended mix): not available for streaming, don't think the original version is either

- "Wouldn't That Be Cool": a Brian song attempted during sessions for Made in U.S.A. Apparently shares similarities with American Spring's "Do Ya" - maybe this had to do with the fight over R&RTTR?

- "Spirit of Rock and Roll": unbooted live version with the Boys - also interesting


1995

- "Grace of My Heart": unbooted - Isnít this also one where weíre are unsure if it was recorded?


2012 - That's Why God Made the Radio era

- "I'd Go Anywhere": apparently unused part of Brian's suite from the end of the album, bits of it can be heard here since it was used in a behind the scenes EPK of the album with interviews played over it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1MWbi5jjh4  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1MWbi5jjh4) - How positive are we that this was Iíd Go anywhere and not another one of the 16+ unused/unfinished songs?

- "She Believes in Love Again": remake of the Bruce song from 85. See you in 2062 for these hot tracks!!

-"Waves of Love": if it was even worked on? Al offered it for the album. Who knows if the Beach Boys (outside of Carl and Al) ever touched it - Couldnít we say the same thing about SBILA?

-supposedly there were like 29 tracks overall recorded for this album. Whether or not any ended up on No Pier Pressure is another question though



Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: HeyJude on August 04, 2021, 07:12:51 AM
All evidence indicates "Waves of Love" was never touched by the BBs during BB/TWGMTR sessions. I'd wager if they had worked on it and shelved it, Al would have used those BB elements on his subsequent mixes/releases of the song.

On the other hand, it sounds as though Bruce did steal away some time during actual TWGMTR sessions to work on a new version of "She Believes in Love Again", one that supposedly used elements of the original 84/85 recording (e.g. Bruce's vocal), and added a new vocal from Foskett on Carl's parts. How much work was done is unknown, but it sounds like recording work on this *was* actually done.


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: HeyJude on August 04, 2021, 08:43:01 AM

1984 - The Beach Boys (self-titled album) era

- "Down By the Pier", "And I Always Will", "At the Hop": covers, only "At the Hop" is booted, and it might be better off kept in the vault - I thought Al wrote And I Always Will, later re-recorded for Postcard, and that we didnít know who wrote Down by the Pier


The scuttle has usually been that Carl co-wrote "Down by the Pier"; he was certainly writing stuff before, during, and after the '85 sessions with Robert White Johnson and probably others.

- "Buzz, Buzz, Buzz": unbooted live cover - Technically it is somewhat booted because videos from 7/4/84 or 7/4/85 are on YouTube

I think unreleased live recordings of songs otherwise unreleased by the band is a whole other rabbit hole. There are a ton. "Love Me Tender", "Come Softly To Me", "Bony Maronie", "Dancin' in the Streets", "Wishing You Were Here", "Oh, Pretty Woman", "Merry Minuet", just off the top of my head at the moment.

- "Spirit of Rock and Roll": unbooted live version with the Boys - also interesting

There would be sort of two versions of the "Beach Boys" version of this song, both very similar.

Brian and Gary Usher brought their studio recording of "Spirit" with them to the pre-show studio recording session for the 25th Anniversary show. Most everything for that show was pre-recorded, with then some live vocals for the actual show. Brian brought his studio recording of "Spirit" (essentially something identical or pretty close to the version/mix he just recently released on his website), and then Mike, Bruce, and Glen Campbell added additonal backing vocals during that pre-TV taping session (Carl and Al apparently staged a walkout in protest to Landy's shenanigans during the session). Then, for the actual live show, presumably some of the mics were live so we have that studio version plus whatever is live during that show. That "live" take would probably sound like a mess, but what hasn't been booted thus far is that studio session version with Mike, Bruce, and Glen adding additional backing vocals.



- "Grace of My Heart": unbooted - Isnít this also one where weíre are unsure if it was recorded?


I think it's fair to say it's pretty likely that some sort of demo for the song exists, even if there aren't any full/proper studio sessions with multiple band members on it.



Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: All Summer Long on August 04, 2021, 04:06:33 PM
HeyJude, thanks for responding to most of my questions. Do you think my theory about the 1981 recording of I Ran (All the Way Home) holds any water?


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: thetojo on August 04, 2021, 05:54:30 PM

- "Buzz, Buzz, Buzz": unbooted live cover - Technically it is somewhat booted because videos from 7/4/84 or 7/4/85 are on YouTube

I think unreleased live recordings of songs otherwise unreleased by the band is a whole other rabbit hole. There are a ton. "Love Me Tender", "Come Softly To Me", "Bony Maronie", "Dancin' in the Streets", "Wishing You Were Here", "Oh, Pretty Woman", "Merry Minuet", just off the top of my head at the moment.



There are so many of these it's ridiculous. Was "Duke of Earl" ever done prior to the split of the band, or just in the Mike & Bruce years.

Add Runaway from the early 80s to that (one of my favourites) - even though it was on the Sunkist LP.

There was a list once put together in the old Aussie BB zine BBA covering this exact matter - I'll have to dig up when I get a chance.


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: WillJC on August 05, 2021, 01:24:30 AM
HeyJude, thanks for responding to most of my questions. Do you think my theory about the 1981 recording of I Ran (All the Way Home) holds any water?

I'd be surprised if it isn't a cover of the Impalas song. Recorded together with the original version of Sweetie at Rumbo, March 1981.

The demo tape with Brian playing Walking on Water, Sweetie, Rings and Don't Let Her Know is dated October 1986 by a voice on a collector cassette, although the songs are all known to have been written by 1985. It's possible that the date could be a year off. Sweetie is just a case of Brian revisiting an old song.


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: as1972 on August 05, 2021, 05:25:49 AM

There are so many of these it's ridiculous. Was "Duke of Earl" ever done prior to the split of the band, or just in the Mike & Bruce years.


It's first documented in 1999


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: HeyJude on August 05, 2021, 09:28:10 AM
HeyJude, thanks for responding to most of my questions. Do you think my theory about the 1981 recording of I Ran (All the Way Home) holds any water?

Can't say I have any specialized knowledge on that one; I think your theory sounds quite plausible.

You never know, though. We later found out two *completely* different Brian songs called "Lay Down Burden" existed, and somehow they wrote during the "No Pier Pressure" era a song called "He Come Down" that *isn't* a cover of the "So Tough" song? They did "Where I Belong" in 1985 and apparently Brian has a brand new song for his new documentary titled "Right Where I Belong." There are many examples of course (All I Want To Do/All I Wanna Do).

So there is precedent for very specific song titles to reemerge as completely new songs.


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: All Summer Long on August 05, 2021, 07:31:39 PM
HeyJude, thanks for responding to most of my questions. Do you think my theory about the 1981 recording of I Ran (All the Way Home) holds any water?

I'd be surprised if it isn't a cover of the Impalas song. Recorded together with the original version of Sweetie at Rumbo, March 1981.

The demo tape with Brian playing Walking on Water, Sweetie, Rings and Don't Let Her Know is dated October 1986 by a voice on a collector cassette, although the songs are all known to have been written by 1985. It's possible that the date could be a year off. Sweetie is just a case of Brian revisiting an old song.

HeyJude, thanks for responding to most of my questions. Do you think my theory about the 1981 recording of I Ran (All the Way Home) holds any water?

Can't say I have any specialized knowledge on that one; I think your theory sounds quite plausible.

You never know, though. We later found out two *completely* different Brian songs called "Lay Down Burden" existed, and somehow they wrote during the "No Pier Pressure" era a song called "He Come Down" that *isn't* a cover of the "So Tough" song? They did "Where I Belong" in 1985 and apparently Brian has a brand new song for his new documentary titled "Right Where I Belong." There are many examples of course (All I Want To Do/All I Wanna Do).

So there is precedent for very specific song titles to reemerge as completely new songs.

Thanks to SaltyMarshmallow, and thanks again to HeyJude for the helpful info/reminders.


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: jiggy22 on August 10, 2021, 11:09:18 AM
All material related to the proposed BROTHERS, COUSINS AND FRIENDS project:

1. Night Bloomin' Jasmine
   - Demo cut in February 1979. Brian mentioned to Les Chan that he wanted to include it on the next album.
2. Da Doo Ron Ron
   - Cut during the KTSA sessions. Bruce mentioned in a 1980 interview that he wanted to include it on the group's next album after KTSA.
3. Why Don't They Let Us Fall in Love
4. Bucks
   - Also known as "Fly." Features Mike on lead vocals. Apparently quite good.
5. Children of the Night
   - Mike song cut in May 1980. Most likely unfinished.
6. Song Within a Song
   - My Solution/Shortenin' Bread medley. Brian apparently recorded narration for the My Solution section, but this is unbooted.
7. Be My Baby
8. Greenback Dollar
   - Unfinished cover of the Kingston Trio hit. As Mike and Brian weren't that big into folk music, I'd be more inclined to believe that their rendition was more inspired by Dick Dale's interpretation.
9. Come Tomorrow
   - Unfinished cover of the Manfred Mann hit.
10. Roller Skating Child (Remake)
   - Unfinished remake recorded in the summer of 1980.
11. Baby, I'm a Changed Man (Remake)
   - Unfinished remake of the Country Love song. Also known as "Changed Man" and (most likely) "I'm a Man."
12. River Deep-Mountain High
13. Candlesticks
   - Unfinished Brian song recorded in November 1980. Currently missing from the vaults.
14. Boys and Girls (Remake)
   - Unfinished remake of the KTSA song, recorded by Brian in November 1980. Currently missing from the vaults.
15. Up Again
   - Unfinished Brian song recorded in November 1980. Currently missing from the vaults.
16. Stevie
17. Sweetie
   - Recorded in March 1981. A demo from 1986 circulates on boots. Considered for inclusion in the group's infamous 1981 Long Beach performance.
18. I'm Sorry (I Ran All the Way Home)
   - Cover of the Impalas hit recorded in March 1981.
19. City Blues
   - Recorded as a demo during the "Cocaine Sessions" in 1980/81. These sessions more than likely did NOT take place in 1982 as has long been assumed.


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: HeyJude on August 10, 2021, 11:32:43 AM
I vaguely recall that the studio version of "Sweetie" was described as having a rotated lead vocal (probably Mike, Al, and Brian?).

I've long gone on and on about how fascinated I am with this era of material; I'm more interested than most. But I also have no problem saying that there was no even decent, KTSA-level "album" there based on what we know. Even assuming one or two of those Mike tracks are good, an album isn't there. Who possibly wanted a cover of "Roller Skating Child" in 1980? The potential story or explanation for why a remake was cut in 1980 is infinitely more interesting than it would be a feasible, well-thought-out album selection for a 1981-ish album.

The covers we've heard are interesting, but not commercial and are very much the epitome of what hardcore fans would find far more interesting than anybody else.

I'd be quite interested in hearing that studio version of "Sweetie", but the song itself is not A-material. It's the most uninteresting, common chord progression.

"Stevie" might rise to album-quality. A well-made studio version of "City Blues" could have been good.

This material would have had even less of a chance to be a solid album had Bruce somehow ended up in the producer's chair again.


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: jiggy22 on August 10, 2021, 02:20:32 PM
Yes, Sweetie does indeed have Brian, Mike and Al trading lead vocals. And as for Roller Skating Child, I recall reading an article stating that if the Here Comes the Night single did well, then the group was planning on re-recording Roller Skating Child in a similar fashion as their next single. That, plus the song lasting in live sets well into 1979, helps makes it a bit more clearer as to why they went ahead and started work on a remake.


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: thetojo on August 11, 2021, 01:19:43 PM
All material related to the proposed BROTHERS, COUSINS AND FRIENDS project

Forgive my ignorance and/or inattention, but this is the first I've read about this project. Any background on this would be appreciated.


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: All Summer Long on August 11, 2021, 08:02:35 PM
Thanks jiggy22 for the list.

All material related to the proposed BROTHERS, COUSINS AND FRIENDS project

Forgive my ignorance and/or inattention, but this is the first I've read about this project. Any background on this would be appreciated.

This was a proposed follow-up to KTSA. The board has a couple other threads on it; I could only find the link to one which I will put below. Like HeyJude, I have a strong interest in this era. Maybe itís because there is all this interesting unheard material. Maybe itís because they had 5 years of no albums. Maybe itís because of how great the touring band sounded in 1980, but itís just really interesting to me.

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?topic=2293.5


I donít want to derail this topic more, but in typical Beach Boys fashion, couldnít they have used outtakes from previous albums? Or even try to use some of Dennisí unused songs from Bambu? I think thatíd give them at least two albums worth of material (in varying quality) that they could narrow down to make something.

EDIT 10/13/21: My excitement and fast typing resulted in some embarrassing typos that have now been fixed.


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: HeyJude on August 12, 2021, 06:45:22 AM
Yeah, I think the "Cousins, Friends, and Brothers" project is really not much more than a title. It may have been thrown around as a title for the KTSA album (makes sense since it references the lyric in one of the songs on that album), and post-KTSA the title would occasionally be mentioned by band members (I recall several stories of fans just talking to Bruce or whomever in the 1980-82-ish time frame where Bruce would throw out the title), but it was just a title for a theoretical future album, which at any given moment could of course theoretically include any track that had already been recorded up to that point.

But as far as I know, there was never anything even semi-official about this. They never went into the studio for a "Cousins, Friends, and Brothers Session", and they never got to comping tracks together as an "album."

Knowing what we know now about the state of the band in 1981 and especially 1982 (and 1983 for that matter), it was pretty far fetched to think they could have put together a "new" album during that timeframe. Carl was gone, and recording solo albums while in and out of the band, Brian was off the rails by 1982, and Al, Mike, and Bruce weren't bringing in any A-list material. What were they trying to do? Bruce wanted to record a disco version of "Roller Skating Child?" Al was obsessed with doing that live "Runaway" track. They were sporadically recording material, but with no particular purpose, seemingly done on a whim. "Stevie" is about as formed and planned and commercial as it got during that time frame, and even that project was saddled with and ultimately brought down by group politics and machinations. I guess the 1982 "California Dreamin'" session produced a solid, decent track that proved they could have done more of something like that in 1982, but that project had issues too. Dennis still wasn't there, Brian was minimally involved, it wasn't exactly an inspired original piece of music, and even back then it ended up getting tied up in politics as Carl was supposedly pissed the song was released in 1983 in that state.


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: thetojo on August 12, 2021, 03:17:48 PM
Okay, I'm up to speed now.

Reading Jiggy's post, I quickly (hopefully) jumped to the conclusion that there was an actual archival project in the works. I should've known that wasn't the case, because of the mention of a track or tracks not being in the vaults.

ps. It's a wonder that no bootleg, to my knowledge, ever adopted that title, but I guess stuff from this era didn't really leak widely as 60s and 70s stuff.


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: Rotat on February 25, 2022, 03:22:37 PM
Does anyone have info about what is actually out there that is included on this article? I don't remember finding and hearing half of this stuff, like a Brian sung "Our Sweet Love"?

https://www.laweekly.com/brian-wilsons-secret-bedroom-tapes-a-track-by-track-description/


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: Bedroom Tapes on March 03, 2022, 07:08:47 PM
I know a good chunk of those have been released on the copyright extension and Feel Flows sets.  Beyond '71, we'll have to wait and see.  🤞


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: nts and the drum on April 02, 2022, 05:16:20 AM
I would finally like to hear a full version of both Rooftop Harry and Spark In The Dark. What I have heard sounds amazing and leaves me craving for more.

I still havenít heard Telephone Backgrounds and I know it was technically released as part of the Ď71 copyright extension but I canít find it anywhere. Iíd like to hear that.

A good quality version of Hard Times and Carry Me Home.

But by far, the most anticipated things I want to hear are the Caribou Sessions. Unfinished as they may be, Iíd love to hear that Carl/Mike song if it ever got recorded.


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: Jim V. on May 24, 2022, 03:51:50 PM
Does anyone have info about what is actually out there that is included on this article? I don't remember finding and hearing half of this stuff, like a Brian sung "Our Sweet Love"?

https://www.laweekly.com/brian-wilsons-secret-bedroom-tapes-a-track-by-track-description/

Hey, I donít know if you ever figured this out, but Iím pretty sure that a so-called ďBrian sungĒ version of ďOur Sweet LoveĒ is just the song as he left it before Al and Carl got their hands on it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rpeWMGOEuAU

And that is basically it, Iíd say.


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: PhilSpectre on June 01, 2022, 01:12:11 AM
Yes, Sweetie does indeed have Brian, Mike and Al trading lead vocals.

Sweetie later turned into Love Ya from the Sweet Insanity sessions, so is kind of Ďfinishedí.

Would be fun to hear a Beach Boys take on Sweetie though.


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll on July 05, 2022, 01:58:35 AM
There is a lot of unreleased material being leaked on youtube atm...lots of stuff from 75-77 plus Carry me Home from Holland era and more.


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: Bedroom Tapes on July 10, 2022, 11:43:55 AM
I wonder if this big leak will hasten/facilitate more archival releases here in the near future?  🤔   One can hope...🤞


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 10, 2022, 03:14:58 PM
Iím hoping it doesnít do the opposite


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: HeyJude on July 20, 2022, 10:57:50 AM
Iím hoping it doesnít do the opposite

By the time the 72/73 boxed set is released, a huge hunk of these "Proposed Brother Bonus Tracks" will have been released.

I don't think any of this will hurt potential future boxes.

The question will become what and how will archival sets be formulated for post-1973 material? Will we continue to get somewhat album-themed/album-centric sets? Or will they do a sort of "Bedroom Tapes" type of set to present the 1974-1977-ish material?

Either way, if more archival sets come our way, I think most of these tracks will see release. With the exception of "Lazy Lizzie" perhaps, for obvious reasons. And perhaps we won't see those exact same sort of stripped-down, "underdub" mixes of "Love You" material; alternates of that sort can be presented in a number of ways.


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: rab2591 on July 20, 2022, 11:28:26 AM
Or will they do a sort of "Bedroom Tapes" type of set to present the 1974-1977-ish material?

YES. PLEASE. Was it an LA Times article that delved into 'The Bedroom Tapes' some many years ago? Got me so hyped that maybe some record exec would see the popularity of the article and take a chance on such a set. Years later I get that there is copyright extension stuff to consider, as well as a whole slew of band politics. But at the time I was so hopeful for a Bedroom Tapes set. Perhaps one day...

(https://i.imgur.com/2DUvHHf.jpg)


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: Bedroom Tapes on July 20, 2022, 11:44:36 AM
https://www.laweekly.com/brian-wilsons-secret-bedroom-tapes-a-track-by-track-description/


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: HeyJude on July 20, 2022, 12:46:50 PM
"I Really Love You" (recorded in April 1978) is buried at about the five-minute mark of this YouTube video of live home movies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_XwUXMFHH0


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 20, 2022, 04:22:11 PM
Notice the quality of his voice, too. Heís pitchy af but itís relatively  smooth and quite similar to how he sounded in 1975 minus a lisp


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: Jay on July 21, 2022, 12:53:04 PM
Notice the quality of his voice, too. Heís pitchy af but itís relatively  smooth and quite similar to how he sounded in 1975 minus a lisp
That track really makes me question how much "sweetening" was really done on Brian's vocals on MIU. Consider the fact that this "I Really Love You" recording is probably still in it's "raw" form.


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 21, 2022, 02:48:20 PM
SameÖ


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: Jay on July 21, 2022, 03:01:47 PM
And if the real answer is "well, actually not as much as you've all been told", why the hell didn't Brian use that voice in the previous two albums, or any of the ones after?!?!?


Title: Re: Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases
Post by: onkster on July 24, 2022, 08:19:51 AM
Wow, that Carry Me Home is fantastic. And this has never turned up anywhere before?