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Title: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on October 11, 2016, 07:37:21 AM
Below is the schedule for Brian's 2017 tour, which thus far will be an additional leg of his "Pet Sounds" tour.

Indications are that Al Jardine and Blondie Chaplin will once again be joining this tour.

Additional dates will be added as they are announced. If you know of any additional dates (they often appear elsewhere online before Brian's website announced them), please post here and let us know, and I'll add it to the schedule. I suspect more dates will be added to fill in some of the gaps on the schedule.

It looks like a lot of new markets/venues on this leg, and some repeats from 2016.

Also note: 2018 tour dates can be seen in the "2018 Tour Thread" linked at the bottom of this post.

Brian Wilson Presents Pet Sounds: The Final Performances 2017 Tour:

NORTH AMERICA

March 18, 2017 - Indio, CA - Fantasy Springs Resort Casino & Special Events Center
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/fantasy-springs-resort-casino-indio-ca-13f9052d.html)

March 27, 2017 - Orlando, FL - Walt Disney Theater
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist/brian-wilson/2017/dr-phillips-center-for-performing-arts-orlando-fl-63f95693.html)

March 29, 2017 - New Orleans, LA - Saenger Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/saenger-performing-arts-theater-new-orleans-la-6bf94ada.html)

March 31, 2017 - Durant, OK - Choctaw Casino Resort Grand Theater
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/choctaw-grand-theater-durant-ok-43e6bf47.html)

April 1, 2017 - Mayetta, KS - Prairie Band Casino
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/prairie-band-casino-and-resort-mayetta-ks-3e6b53b.html)

April 2, 2017 - Park City, KS - Hartman Arena
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/hartman-arena-wichita-ks-33e6a06d.html)

April 4, 2017 - Fort Collins, CO - Lincoln Center
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/lincoln-center-fort-collins-co-7be6a60c.html)

April 6, 2017 - Boise, ID - Boise State University Morrison Center for the Performing Arts
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/velma-v-morrison-center-for-the-performing-arts-boise-id-4be6977e.html)

April 8, 2017 - Vancouver, BC - Queen Elizabeth Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/queen-elizabeth-theatre-vancouver-bc-canada-3be688d8.html)

April 9, 2017 - Seattle, WA - Paramount Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/queen-elizabeth-theatre-vancouver-bc-canada-3be688d8.html)

April 12, 2017 - Edmonton, AB - Northern Alberta Jubilee Auditorium
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/northern-alberta-jubilee-auditorium-edmonton-ab-canada-43e6f36f.html)

April 13, 2017 - Calgary, AB - Southern Alberta Jubilee Auditorium
(SETLIST - Unavailable)

April 15, 2017 - Winnipeg, MB - Burton Cummings Theatre for the Performing Arts
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/burton-cummings-theatre-winnipeg-mb-canada-63e6e297.html)

April 17, 2017 - Sioux City, IA - Orpheum Theatre
(SETLIST - Unavailable)

April 18, 2017 - Des Moines, IA - Des Moines Civic Center
(SETLIST - Unavailable)

April 19, 2017 - Milwaukee, WI - Riverside Theater
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/riverside-theater-milwaukee-wi-3e6c16f.html)

April 21, 2017 - Columbus, OH - Palace Theatre of Columbus
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/palace-theatre-columbus-oh-4be63bba.html)

April 22, 2017 - Northfield, OH - Hard Rock Live
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/hard-rock-rocksino-northfield-park-northfield-oh-33e63051.html)

April 23, 2017 - Indianapolis, IN - Murat Theatre at Old National Centre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/murat-theatre-indianapolis-in-2be6280a.html)

April 25, 2017 - Hershey, PA - Hershey Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/hershey-theatre-hershey-pa-43e61fff.html)

April 26, 2017 - Albany, NY - Palace Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/palace-theatre-albany-ny-5be61760.html)

April 28, 2017 - Newark, NJ - New Jersey Performing Arts Center
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/prudential-hall-new-jersey-performing-arts-center-newark-nj-6be60ad6.html)

April 29, 2017 - Lynn, MA - Lynn Auditorium
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/the-lynn-memorial-auditorium-lynn-ma-7be60218.html)

April 30, 2017 - Worcester, MA - Hanover Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/hanover-theatre-for-the-performing-arts-worcester-ma-13e675f1.html)

May 2, 2017 - Wilkes Barre, PA - FM Kirby Center for the Performing Arts
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/the-fm-kirby-center-for-the-performing-arts-wilkes-barre-pa-33e66411.html)

May 3, 2017 - Washington, DC - Lincoln Center
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/lincoln-theatre-washington-dc-be65db2.html)

May 4, 2017 - Washington, DC - Lincoln Center
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/lincoln-theatre-washington-dc-4be65b46.html)

May 6, 2017 - Knoxville, TN - Tennessee Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/tennessee-theatre-knoxville-tn-7be64ea4.html)

May 7, 2017 - Chattanooga, TN - Tivoli Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/tivoli-theatre-chattanooga-tn-1be6416c.html)

May 9, 2017 - Birmingham, AL - BJCC Concert Hall
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/bjcc-concert-hall-birmingham-al-53e7b725.html)

May 12, 2017 - Houston, TX - Revention Music Center
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/revention-music-center-houston-tx-2be79c7a.html)

May 13, 2017 - Austin, TX - ACL Live at The Moody Theater
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/the-moody-theater-austin-tx-23e794bf.html)

May 14, 2017 - Austin, TX - ACL Live at The Moody Theater
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/the-moody-theater-austin-tx-43e78f77.html)

May 16, 2017 - Tulsa, OK - Brady Theater
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/brady-theater-tulsa-ok-53e783d5.html)

May 18, 2017 - Albuquerque, NM - Kiva Auditorium
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/kiva-auditorium-albuquerque-nm-1be7f1f4.html)

May 19, 2017 - Tucson, AZ - Centennial Hall at University of Arizona
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/centennial-hall-university-of-arizona-tucson-az-23e7ec0b.html)

May 20, 2017 - Laughlin, NV - Harrah's Rio Vista Amphitheatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/rio-vista-outdoor-amphitheater-harrahs-laughlin-laughlin-nv-6be7eaba.html)

May 22, 2017 - Phoenix, AZ - Celebrity Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/celebrity-theatre-phoenix-az-13e7d9ad.html)

May 24, 2017 - San Diego, CA - San Diego Civic Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/civic-theatre-san-diego-ca-be7cd86.html)

May 26, 2017 - Hollywood, CA - Pantages Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/pantages-theatre-hollywood-ca-73e7c6a9.html)

May 27, 2017 - Hollywood, CA - Pantages Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/pantages-theatre-hollywood-ca-53e73f4d.html)

May 28, 2017 - Santa Barbara, CA - Santa Barbara County Bowl
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/santa-barbara-bowl-santa-barbara-ca-4be7375e.html)

June 15, 2017 - Honolulu, HI - Neal S Blaisdell Concert Hall
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/neal-s-blaisdell-concert-hall-honolulu-hi-1be4b57c.html)

June 16, 2017 - Waikiki Beach, HI - Private Show
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/unknown-venue-waikk-beach-hi-53e483c9.html)

EUROPE

June 29, 2017 - Odense, Denmark - Odeon
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/odeon-odense-denmark-3be4d0f8.html)

June 30, 2017 - Copenhagen, Denmark - Tivoli Gardens
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/tivoli-gardens-copenhagen-denmark-5be4cbe4.html)

July 3, 2017 - Amsterdam, Netherlands -  Carré Theater
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/koninklijk-theater-carre-amsterdam-netherlands-1be4316c.html)

July 4, 2017 - Ostend, Belgium - Kursaal Oostende
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/kursaal-ostend-belgium-33e42c7d.html)

July 5, 2017 - Utrecht, Netherlands - TivoliVredenburg
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/tivolivredenburg-grote-zaal-utrecht-netherlands-63e42a9f.html)

July 8, 2017 - Bilbao, Spain - Bilbao BBK Festival
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/kobetamendi-bilbao-spain-be40d3e.html)

July 9, 2017 - Montreux, Switzerland - Montreux Jazz Festival
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/auditorium-stravinski-montreux-switzerland-53e407d9.html)

July 13, 2017 - Pori, Finland - Pori Jazz Festival, Kirjurinluoto Outdoor Arena
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/kirjurinluoto-pori-finland-2be4643e.html)

July 15, 2017 - Perugia, Italy - Umbria Jazz
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/arena-santa-giuliana-perugia-italy-4be4572e.html)

July 17, 2017 - Lyon, France - Théâtre Antique de Fourvière
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/theatre-antique-de-fourviere-lyon-france-63e4468f.html)

July 19, 2017 - Frankfurt, Germany - Jahrhunderthalle
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/jahrhunderthalle-frankfurt-germany-2be5b43e.html)

July 20, 2017 - Vienna, Austria - Wiener Stadhalle
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/wiener-stadthalle-vienna-austria-6be5b266.html)

July 23, 2017 - Galway, Ireland - Galway Arts Festival
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/absolut-big-top-galway-ireland-7be59e88.html)

July 25, 2017 - Dublin, Ireland - Bord Gais Energy Theatre
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/bord-gais-energy-theatre-dublin-ireland-3be58434.html)

July 28, 2017 - Liverpool, England - Exhibition Centre Liverpool
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/exhibition-centre-liverpool-england-be5f146.html)

July 29, 2017 - Penrith, England - Kendal Calling Festival
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/lowther-deer-park-penrith-england-53e5efc1.html)

July 30, 2017 - Dorset, England - Camp Bestival at Lulworth Castle
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/lulworth-castle-dorset-england-4be5e78e.html)

August 1, 2017 - London, England - Eventim Apollo
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/eventim-apollo-london-england-3e5d51f.html)

August 2, 2017 - Sheffield, England - Sheffield City Hall
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/sheffield-city-hall-sheffield-england-73e5d215.html)

August 3, 2017 - Glasgow, Scotland - Kelvingrove Park
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/kelvingrove-bandstand-glasgow-scotland-23e5c87f.html)

August 5, 2017 - Glastonbury, England - Glastonbury Abbey Extravaganza
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/glastonbury-abbey-glastonbury-england-3e53da7.html)

August 6, 2017 - Newcastle, England - Live from Times Square
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/times-square-newcastle-england-3e535b7.html)


NORTH AMERICA

August 26, 2017 - Lincoln, CA - Thunder Valley Casino Resort
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/thunder-valley-casino-lincoln-ca-43e2a727.html)

September 15, 2017 - Moncton, NB - Molson Canadian Centre
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/the-molson-canadian-centre-moncton-nb-canada-13e231e5.html)

September 16, 2017 - Halifax, NS  - Scotiabank Centre
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/scotiabank-centre-halifax-ns-canada-53e22f41.html)

September 18, 2017 - Kitchener, ON  - Centre in The Square
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/centre-in-the-square-kitchener-on-canada-be21df6.html)

September 19, 2017 - Rochester, NY  - Kodak Hall @ Eastman Theatre
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/eastman-theater-rochester-ny-7be21ab4.html)

September 21, 2017 - Mashantucket, CT  - Foxwoods Casino
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/grand-theater-at-foxwoods-mashantucket-ct-6be20a7e.html)

September 22, 2017 - Boston, MA  - Orpheum Theatre
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/orpheum-theatre-boston-ma-4be20346.html)

September 23, 2017 - New York, NY  - Radio City Music Hall
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/radio-city-music-hall-new-york-ny-23e278bb.html)

September 25, 2017 - Lancaster, PA  - American Music Theatre
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/american-music-theatre-lancaster-pa-be26942.html)

September 26, 2017 - Red Bank, NJ  - Count Basie Theatre
(SETLIST - Unavailable)

September 29, 2017 - New Bedford, MA  - Zeiterion Theatre
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/zeiterion-performing-arts-center-new-bedford-ma-be24d1e.html)

September 30, 2017 - Atlantic City, NJ  - Golden Nugget
(SETLIST - Unavailable)

October 1, 2017 - Syracuse, NY  - Crouse Hinds Theatre
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/crouse-hinds-auditorium-syracuse-ny-7be242d4.html)

October 3, 2017 - South Bend, IN  - Morris Performing Arts Center
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/morris-performing-arts-center-south-bend-in-4be3b3d2.html)

October 4, 2017 - Toledo, OH  - Stranahan Theatre
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/stranahan-theater-toledo-oh-23e3a8cb.html)

October 6, 2017 - Rosemont, IL  - Rosemont Theatre
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/rosemont-theatre-rosemont-il-2be39cf2.html)

October 7, 2017 - Florence, IN  - Belterra Casino
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/the-centerstage-showroom-at-belterra-casino-resort-florence-in-13e395c5.html)

October 8, 2017 - Peoria, IL  - Civic Center Theater
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/peoria-civic-center-theatre-peoria-il-7be392b4.html)

October 12, 2017 - Fresno, CA  - The Big Fresno Fair
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/paul-paul-theatre-fresno-ca-33e3f49d.html)

October 13, 2017 - Saratoga, CA  - The Mountain Winery
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/the-mountain-winery-saratoga-ca-63e3f2af.html)

October 14, 2017 - Costa Mesa, CA  - Pacific Amphitheatre
(SETLIST - https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/pacific-amphitheater-costa-mesa-ca-53e3ebf9.html)

2018 Tour Dates:

See the "2018 Tour Thread" here: http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,25544.0.html


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on October 11, 2016, 08:17:54 AM
That's incredible. I'm glad so many more people will have the chance to see this tour. We'll see if they actually honor the "final performances" label this time. I'm going to pass on the three near me (Hershey, DCx2). The show at The Strathmore was perfection in the way that only Brian can deliver it. If that's the last time I see him, I'd like to remember it as such. Plus, all three of those shows are weeknights near the end of the semester and two are big rehearsal nights for me...and getting to The Lincoln Theatre in DC is a total pain too.

But if there is somehow anybody left on this board that has not seen this man doing this show live yet, GO!!!  ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: SamMcK on October 11, 2016, 08:27:21 AM
Wow. I almost don't know what to think! One the one hand i'm really happy that all those people who haven't had a chance to see Pet Sounds Live will now get the chance. But the other part of me selfishly wishes Brian could spend more time working on another album, and if anything he probably deserves a rest from touring. (At least for a little longer)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: TV Forces on October 11, 2016, 08:30:07 AM
Wow. I almost don't know what to think! One the one hand i'm really happy that all those people who haven't had a chance to see Pet Sounds Live will now get the chance. But the other part of me selfishly wishes Brian could spend more time working on another album, and if anything he probably deserves a rest from touring. (At least for a little longer)

Oh, he'll rest.. He only has 3 shows between Halloween 2016 and the end of March 2017.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: CenturyDeprived on October 11, 2016, 11:15:21 AM
How great is it that when Brian changes his mind to do some more touring, he doesn't have to be met with consternation of "you said no changeees!" from a bandmate, like in C50.

More power to Brian, I'm so very glad to see this second wind he is getting.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: barsone on October 11, 2016, 11:23:54 AM
Thank you HJ for the 2017 Tour update

Yes I know I'm gloating but he's coming back to Seattle in April......Thank you oh Lord !!!!!!!!!!
Then a quick trip back to Ohio to visit the parents 2 weeks later and bingo concert #2

2017 has the look of a very good year !! 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: SonoraDick on October 11, 2016, 04:58:59 PM
If anybody's looking for the password for the Phoenix (Celebrity Theatre) presale, it's VIBRATIONS.  (Apparently not case-sensitive.)  It might work for other shows (if any) promoted by Danny Zelisko.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on October 11, 2016, 05:03:04 PM
Quote
May 12, 2017 - Houston, TX - Revention Music Center

woo-hoo!

*does fatman backflips*

woo-hoo woo-hoo woo-hoo [/daffyduck]


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ruskalupagus on October 13, 2016, 08:18:54 AM
Got my tickets this morning ;D can't wait for may 2017!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: bummerinparadise on October 13, 2016, 03:52:01 PM
Got Orlando VIP pass today - It says no personal items to be signed. Has it always said that, and if so are they strict on it?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Marty Castillo on October 13, 2016, 05:57:02 PM
Got Orlando VIP pass today - It says no personal items to be signed. Has it always said that, and if so are they strict on it?

I hadn't looked into VIP for this new set of dates since nothing was near me. Here is what it says on the website for the newly released dates:

Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary VIP Meet & Greet Package - $499 per package

One Premium Reserved General Admission Ticket (depending on venue configuration)
Early Entry
First access merch shopping
Exclusive Soundcheck Experience
Meet & Greet with Brian Wilson
Individual photo with Brian Wilson
One signed copy of I Am Brian Wilson: A Memoir
One commemorative VIP laminate

Please Note: VIP Meet & Greet patrons will receive a signed copy of I Am Brian Wilson: A Memoir, please do not bring any other memorabilia to be signed.


Based on this, I would say they are going to stick to giving each person a signed copy of his book and leave it at that. His people seem to be constantly changing the rules for these meet & greets. From recent memory:

NPP Tour - Love & Mercy sheet music signed and one personal item
PS Tour - God Only Knows sheet music signed and PS Tour poster signed (e-mail prior to concert stated no outside items in addition to VIP items - in practice, you could get any two items signed)

I don't think we will know how they handle guests until the next leg of the tour starts. I wouldn't be surprised if they went to pre-signed books...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on October 13, 2016, 06:24:49 PM
Awesome, this is what should have happened with the C50 tour, going into the next year.  The Newark show is my dad's birthday and we're totally going.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: grapejuicesnake on October 13, 2016, 06:31:05 PM
Another show in Seattle.  I just went to one a couple of days ago and now a new one announced.  This is really crazy.  I hope he is still going to work on the new album.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Lonely Summer on October 13, 2016, 08:15:50 PM
Another show in Seattle.  I just went to one a couple of days ago and now a new one announced.  This is really crazy.  I hope he is still going to work on the new album.
I can't see the new album being a priority for Brian's people. The albums don't sell, the concerts do. Brian will be touring for a long time to come; instead of PS next year, though, they should be doing BWPS.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: joe_blow on October 13, 2016, 09:17:17 PM
Another show in Seattle.  I just went to one a couple of days ago and now a new one announced.  This is really crazy.  I hope he is still going to work on the new album.
I can't see the new album being a priority for Brian's people. The albums don't sell, the concerts do. Brian will be touring for a long time to come; instead of PS next year, though, they should be doing BWPS.
Maybe they'll release Pet Sounds Live 2


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: pdas1996 on October 13, 2016, 10:37:25 PM
I'll be buying tickets for Indianapolis on Friday!  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: LostArt on October 14, 2016, 06:05:19 AM
Yesterday I put in my order for two tickets for the show in Milwaukee.  The Riverside Theater's website wasn't giving me very good seating choices, so I called the box office and got seats that I am pleased with.  Front row of the balcony, so no one will be standing or dancing in front of me.  I'm all for rock n roll and everything, but I'm 60 years old with bad knees and I can't Dance Dance Dance like I used to.  I'm excited. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on October 14, 2016, 06:23:11 AM
The whole "standing vs. sitting" thing has been hashed out in a myriad of other threads, but I think for the most part as we're paying for "reserved" seating rather than general admission bare-floor seating, I think it's appropriate to be able to actually sit and watch the show for the most part.

The show I caught on Wednesday was pretty much as good as it gets; a few moments for standing ovations, but sitting throughout the show. The audience did all stand for the full encore set, which I'm okay with. But I've been at other shows where one guy in the front row has to stand for *everything*, and thus I find myself standing for the entire show including during slow ballads and delicate acoustic numbers.

And this isn't just to take an extra dig, as I've complained about this for several years, but I don't miss Scott Bennett egging the audience on to stand about 1/3 into the set. He's done that at shows where I've then of course been forced to stand for the entire rest of the concert.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Aum Bop Diddit on October 14, 2016, 06:23:26 PM
Waiting on the "Wild Honey" tour.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Pretty Funky on October 14, 2016, 09:10:09 PM
Desert Trip weekend 2 on now and talk of a repeat in 2017. Brian is performing up till May then again in December (once).

Brian Wilson performing SMiLE 50 in the desert next year anyone? ;)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on October 14, 2016, 09:21:58 PM
Brian Wilson Presents Carl and the Passions: So Tough


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: pdas1996 on October 14, 2016, 10:03:45 PM
Brian Wilson Presents Carl and the Passions: So Tough

Merry Christmas from Brian Wilson (for the 40th anniversary of the 77 album)

Though, I'd rather go for the Surf's Up/Landlocked Tour...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: bummerinparadise on October 15, 2016, 12:03:46 PM
If they were to do any album that isn't very well known to casual fans, I bet it would be Wild Honey - it's pretty short and they could probably fit it in half of a set.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on October 15, 2016, 12:14:31 PM
I would love that...Wild Honey is one of my favorite albums anyway.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: David1964 on October 15, 2016, 12:39:18 PM
I bought tickets on Wednesday via the pre-sale. I saw Brian in '99 and again last year on the NPP Tour. This should be a great show.Can't wait for April 19th!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Lonely Summer on October 15, 2016, 02:06:20 PM
Another show in Seattle.  I just went to one a couple of days ago and now a new one announced.  This is really crazy.  I hope he is still going to work on the new album.
I can't see the new album being a priority for Brian's people. The albums don't sell, the concerts do. Brian will be touring for a long time to come; instead of PS next year, though, they should be doing BWPS.
Maybe they'll release Pet Sounds Live 2
Brian Wilson's Pet Sounds  ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on October 17, 2016, 08:49:56 PM
Perhaps this is jumping the gun a bit, but The Zombies just announced a 50th Anniversary tour of Odyssey and Oracle in the US running through March & April, so I presume Darian will probably be out of the BW Band again on this new leg? Theoretically, he could do the shows in May, but it would seem to make more sense to just have one player for the whole run, especially if they brought back Debbie who seems to be fitting in beautifully.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on October 17, 2016, 09:18:59 PM
Hmmm...that's a good question...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on October 20, 2016, 01:00:52 PM
Made some updates to the schedule on the top post. Pollstar shows second shows added in Austin and Hollywood, as well as additional shows in Oklahoma and Nevada. Trying to A/B the schedule to other sources to see if I'm missing anything. The BW website shows all of these additions except the second night in Hollywood.

Also, Pollstar shows the December show in Mexico is actually for 2016, not 2017, which of course make a thousand times more sense since he was already scheduled for a show in Mexico in December. So I've moved that date to the 2016 tour thread even though the BW website still shows it for 2017.

Pollstar also shows both the April 12 and 13 shows as taking place in Edmonton, so I'm not sure what's up with that.

Even weirder, the BW website has a *third* show at ACL Live in Austin listed for October 14th. The link goes to the May 14 show, so I'm guessing at the moment that it's incorrect.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: pdas1996 on October 21, 2016, 10:08:25 PM
I got my tickets for Indianapolis in the mail today! Now hopefully my friend can go...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: barsone on October 24, 2016, 11:51:35 AM
Perhaps this is jumping the gun a bit, but The Zombies just announced a 50th Anniversary tour of Odyssey and Oracle in the US running through March & April, so I presume Darian will probably be out of the BW Band again on this new leg? Theoretically, he could do the shows in May, but it would seem to make more sense to just have one player for the whole run, especially if they brought back Debbie who seems to be fitting in beautifully.

Here's a question I've not seen addressed regarding Rubber Souls above post.  The Wondermints go back a long time with Darian, Scott B, D'Amico and others.  Is there a chance that Darian and Scott are/were so close, that Scott's current situation, it has given Darian the impetus to move on to a post BW band life.  Band members come and go.  With Darian now doing his Disney/Zombie gigs, has he actually left the band and its just not been announced by Brian.  Just a thought and ALL supposition on my part.  I have ZERO insider knowledge.  Just thinking if Scott and Darian are extremely close, as much as he obviously loves the BW music and band mates, the Scott B situation may just be painful  enough that he felt it was time to move on.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on October 24, 2016, 11:54:22 AM
Don't know, but he has had Disney committments in the past. I can't imagine the thing with Scott has been easy, though. That said, I do not have any first hand knowledge of this so in this case I'm merely speculating.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on October 24, 2016, 12:03:29 PM
Perhaps this is jumping the gun a bit, but The Zombies just announced a 50th Anniversary tour of Odyssey and Oracle in the US running through March & April, so I presume Darian will probably be out of the BW Band again on this new leg? Theoretically, he could do the shows in May, but it would seem to make more sense to just have one player for the whole run, especially if they brought back Debbie who seems to be fitting in beautifully.

Here's a question I've not seen addressed regarding Rubber Souls above post.  The Wondermints go back a long time with Darian, Scott B, D'Amico and others.  Is there a chance that Darian and Scott are/were so close, that Scott's current situation, it has given Darian the impetus to move on to a post BW band life.  Band members come and go.  With Darian now doing his Disney/Zombie gigs, has he actually left the band and its just not been announced by Brian.  Just a thought and ALL supposition on my part.  I have ZERO insider knowledge.  Just thinking if Scott and Darian are extremely close, as much as he obviously loves the BW music and band mates, the Scott B situation may just be painful  enough that he felt it was time to move on.

I can't imagine this is the case, because Darian has played some shows this year. He did the first few legs back in March/April, and reappeared as recently as September to bridge the gap between Billy and Debbie Shair.

Billy having to leave, then a few shows with no replacement, then Darian coming back for a few shows, and then another replacement appearing sounds exactly like a scenario where Darian had other commitments, and essentially took time off from his other commitment to help the band out again until they could get another replacement up to speed.

The only anomaly I can think of is that Billy originally mentioned he was only filling in through a certain date (in June or July), but then kept on through September when he had to leave. I'm guessing Darian was planning on coming back in June or July, and whatever his other commitment is required more time.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on January 24, 2017, 06:56:29 AM
Added a 6/15 Honolulu show to the top post schedule.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: barsone on January 24, 2017, 12:16:08 PM
Nice to see HJ.  Adding new shows at the back end is nice to see.  Its going to be a nice surprise for some fans....taking a few weeks off from the late May shows and off to Hawaii.  Maybe it leads to another tour to the far east ??     All good !!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on January 24, 2017, 01:00:27 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure if they'll fill in that gap before the Hawaii show, or do more dates afterwards, or if they really did just schedule a lone Hawaii show in June.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: the captain on January 25, 2017, 07:22:36 AM

Here's a question I've not seen addressed regarding Rubber Souls above post.  The Wondermints go back a long time with Darian, Scott B, D'Amico and others.  Is there a chance that Darian and Scott are/were so close, that Scott's current situation, it has given Darian the impetus to move on to a post BW band life.  Band members come and go.  With Darian now doing his Disney/Zombie gigs, has he actually left the band and its just not been announced by Brian.  Just a thought and ALL supposition on my part.  I have ZERO insider knowledge.  Just thinking if Scott and Darian are extremely close, as much as he obviously loves the BW music and band mates, the Scott B situation may just be painful  enough that he felt it was time to move on.

This isn't central to your question/thought/fear, but Scott wasn't a Wondermint. He was from the Chicago cadre of musicians who originally hooked up with Brian for Imagination, whereas Wondermints were LA-based. It was Darian, Mike, Nick, and Probyn who were from that crowd.

Certainly not to say that they weren't close with Scott, because despite not being Wondermints together, obviously they toured and recorded together for nearly 20 years as BW Band. Just thought I'd clarify there.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: barsone on January 25, 2017, 09:24:22 AM
Thank you Captain, my error.  And I certainly hope to see and hear Darian again when Brian's band restarts the tour.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: SMiLE on January 25, 2017, 09:08:12 PM
Don't know, but he has had Disney committments in the past. I can't imagine the thing with Scott has been easy, though. That said, I do not have any first hand knowledge of this so in this case I'm merely speculating.
What happened to Scott? Never mind, I found out.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on January 26, 2017, 06:05:56 AM
Added a July 30 UK festival gig (Camp Bestival) to the top post schedule. It's billed as a PS show.

I'll separate the schedule out into legs/regions if or when more dates are announced.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on January 26, 2017, 06:46:41 AM
Thank you Captain, my error.  And I certainly hope to see and hear Darian again when Brian's band restarts the tour.

Of the two shows I saw last summer (one with Darian, one without), the whole band seemed to have a little something extra when Darian was on board. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on January 26, 2017, 08:22:18 AM
Also added a March 18 date in Indio, CA that's up on Pollstar (and already for sale at the venue's website). Even though this show is only around seven weeks away, it's still not listed on Brian's website for some reason.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Emdeeh on January 26, 2017, 11:04:07 AM
Looks like Brian's got a European tour going. I just saw a story listing him as a performer in the Bilbao BBK festival at Kobeta Mendi in Bilbao, Spain. The festival runs from July 4-6, but the story didn't say which day he's playing.

Edit: Adding link to story:
https://readdork.com/news/royal-blood-brian-wilson-and-explosions-in-the-sky-lead-the-latest-bilbao-bbk-live-announcement/


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on January 26, 2017, 12:48:05 PM
Thank you Captain, my error.  And I certainly hope to see and hear Darian again when Brian's band restarts the tour.

Darian is on tour with The Zombies in March and April - if your show is after those months, maybe he'll be there!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: the captain on January 26, 2017, 04:09:59 PM
Thank you Captain, my error.  And I certainly hope to see and hear Darian again when Brian's band restarts the tour.

Of the two shows I saw last summer (one with Darian, one without), the whole band seemed to have a little something extra when Darian was on board. 
I really, really think Darian is fantastic--amazing talent and great presence on stage. But I have to admit that when I saw them this fall without him (or Scott, for that matter), they were still a fantastic band. I was surprised by how good, actually, considering those two key absences.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on January 26, 2017, 05:53:27 PM
Thank you Captain, my error.  And I certainly hope to see and hear Darian again when Brian's band restarts the tour.

Of the two shows I saw last summer (one with Darian, one without), the whole band seemed to have a little something extra when Darian was on board. 
I really, really think Darian is fantastic--amazing talent and great presence on stage. But I have to admit that when I saw them this fall without him (or Scott, for that matter), they were still a fantastic band. I was surprised by how good, actually, considering those two key absences.

I saw the band with Billy, and with Darian. I agree 100%, the band was fantastic in both lineups. Credit to what a great band they really are that the musicians can step in when needed or when others are absent and still deliver the highest quality goods. I saw the Smile tour in Boston, it was the gig when Jeff Foskett got sick and could not perform the full show, and it was still a 5-star show all around that night. The other musicians stepped up and filled the necessary parts.

Due to geographical limitations, I wasn't able to see any shows with Debbie Shair and I wish I had. She is terrific, and I heard nothing but high praise from people who did see her play with Brian last year.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on January 26, 2017, 08:21:05 PM
Thank you Captain, my error.  And I certainly hope to see and hear Darian again when Brian's band restarts the tour.

Of the two shows I saw last summer (one with Darian, one without), the whole band seemed to have a little something extra when Darian was on board. 
I really, really think Darian is fantastic--amazing talent and great presence on stage. But I have to admit that when I saw them this fall without him (or Scott, for that matter), they were still a fantastic band. I was surprised by how good, actually, considering those two key absences.

I think the band was still great both night, but it just seemed like their was an undescribable extra something with Darian. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on January 27, 2017, 07:04:10 AM
Added another UK festival date to the schedule, Kendal Calling.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Scaroline No on January 27, 2017, 07:52:01 AM
I love that he's playing these festivals. He really does have cred with the younger crowd. Gives me hope for humanity :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on January 31, 2017, 05:59:42 AM
Added two more UK dates in August to the top post.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: STE on January 31, 2017, 11:46:22 AM
Added two more UK dates in August to the top post.


It's kinda annoys me that he's coming back to UK with Pet Sounds after having advertised the 2016 dates as the "last PS performances" ever.
And the same was in 2007.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on January 31, 2017, 11:51:13 AM
Maybe, but I'm just happy he's still out there. Hell, he could do "Chug-A-Lug" for 2 hours straight and I'd be happy.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: STE on January 31, 2017, 12:14:02 PM
Maybe, but I'm just happy he's still out there. Hell, he could do "Chug-A-Lug" for 2 hours straight and I'd be happy.


Sure, THAT would be awesome!




Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on January 31, 2017, 12:28:32 PM
As long as it's not Cuckoo Clock.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: T2458 on February 07, 2017, 12:42:58 PM
I'm flabbergasted that the management have the audacity to continue with the 'last ever' nonsense.  If they want to play the complete Pet Sounds at every concert I'd be happy but please do not tell me I've been to 3 separate last performances and then come around for another go the next year.  It's taking the P...

It was clear to me that BW has had enough of it himself with the awful lyric mangling and what seems to be a Dylan/Sinatra approach to not singing some of the songs.

I went to the Palladium, Southend and Royal Albert Hall last year (Brilliant apart from Southend!) so I guess they won't appear at those venues again in order to honour the 'last ever' publicity.  They haven't performed Pet Sounds at my local pub yet so I'm waiting for that day(sic) but unless I cave in (again) that will be the next last time I pay lots of money to see yet another 'last ever' concert.

Why can't we have a Sunflower or Friends or Love You or Holland or Today special?



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Pretty Funky on February 07, 2017, 01:38:39 PM


Why can't we have a Sunflower or Friends or Love You or Holland or Today special?



Because they would not sell-out a phone booth.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on February 07, 2017, 02:36:20 PM


Why can't we have a Sunflower or Friends or Love You or Holland or Today special?



Because they would not sell-out a phone booth.

"Today" could be done...and maybe "Sunflower"...but they couldn't be marketed the same way Pet Sounds can be. There would be no purpose in mentioning it in the advertising, Brian and the band would just have to "do it".


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 07, 2017, 02:39:49 PM
Agreed...good word of mouth will work as well as advertising


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on February 07, 2017, 02:56:31 PM
There is never enough Pet Sounds!



Love the new profile Billy! :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 07, 2017, 03:13:52 PM
I knew you'd get a kick out of it


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on February 07, 2017, 04:28:19 PM
I knew you'd get a kick out of it

The results are in. Profile of the Year!  :woot :woot :woot :woot


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 07, 2017, 04:45:40 PM
I aim to please


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: rab2591 on February 07, 2017, 04:49:53 PM
Love the new profile Billy! :lol

I had to do a double take, for a second there I thought the real deal was back :smash hahaha


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on February 07, 2017, 04:52:19 PM
Yeah I was worried the big guy would start claiming I am Melinda again.... ::)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 07, 2017, 05:06:50 PM
You're not?!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on February 07, 2017, 05:13:15 PM
 :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: the captain on February 07, 2017, 05:28:05 PM


Why can't we have a Sunflower or Friends or Love You or Holland or Today special?



Because they would not sell-out a phone booth.
Yeah, not to be negative (oh, who am I kidding?), but those albums have virtually no name recognition whatsoever. Pet Sounds has tremendous cache not only with Beach Boys fans and 60s music fans in general, but music fans of pretty much every generation. Hipsters of every stripe have embraced Pet Sounds. Music fans in general can recognize "The [magazine] #[1 or 2] album of all time!" and shell out $50, $100, $150, whatever. And new albums--TLOS, for example--can be marketed similarly easily as the new work of this great genius (who gave us Pet Sounds).

But those other albums, most people just don't know them. Even Today!, which at least has classics, isn't necessarily known as a great album outside of Beach Boys fans. Those other albums, most people have never heard of them and know few to none of the songs on them. The tours would do terrible business. I mean, maybe they could play fewer shows in smaller venues and charge even more for tickets, hoping that a few message boards' worth of lunatics would make up for the casual fans. But that just doesn't seem realistic. I think we'd be lucky to get non-album specific shows that included even a couple more songs from those albums, unfortunately.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 07, 2017, 05:33:56 PM
That's depressing. True, but depressing.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on February 07, 2017, 05:57:28 PM
 :lol :lol :lol   ...Wilsonomics??   :lol :lol :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 07, 2017, 06:07:37 PM
Yeah, as opposed to Thuganomics :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on February 08, 2017, 04:41:14 AM
"Hi there. I am Billy. I am Smiley Smile's  resident left-wing ambassador. A snowflake if you will."

Take that TRBB! :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ang Jones on February 08, 2017, 04:55:40 AM
Love the new profile Billy! :lol

I had to do a double take, for a second there I thought the real deal was back :smash hahaha

Me too!  Very funny!

As for Brian performing some other album - I know it isn't going to happen but SMiLE would have been nice - in what would have been its 50th anniversary had it been released in 1967. We haven't heard it live before with Al (and for that matter Matt).


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on February 08, 2017, 06:13:21 AM


Why can't we have a Sunflower or Friends or Love You or Holland or Today special?



Because they would not sell-out a phone booth.
Yeah, not to be negative (oh, who am I kidding?), but those albums have virtually no name recognition whatsoever. Pet Sounds has tremendous cache not only with Beach Boys fans and 60s music fans in general, but music fans of pretty much every generation. Hipsters of every stripe have embraced Pet Sounds. Music fans in general can recognize "The [magazine] #[1 or 2] album of all time!" and shell out $50, $100, $150, whatever. And new albums--TLOS, for example--can be marketed similarly easily as the new work of this great genius (who gave us Pet Sounds).

But those other albums, most people just don't know them. Even Today!, which at least has classics, isn't necessarily known as a great album outside of Beach Boys fans. Those other albums, most people have never heard of them and know few to none of the songs on them. The tours would do terrible business. I mean, maybe they could play fewer shows in smaller venues and charge even more for tickets, hoping that a few message boards' worth of lunatics would make up for the casual fans. But that just doesn't seem realistic. I think we'd be lucky to get non-album specific shows that included even a couple more songs from those albums, unfortunately.

Sad but true.  Outside of BB fans, the songs are well known, but not so much the albums. 



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on February 08, 2017, 09:12:58 AM
Love the new profile Billy! :lol

I had to do a double take, for a second there I thought the real deal was back :smash hahaha

Me too!  Very funny!

As for Brian performing some other album - I know it isn't going to happen but SMiLE would have been nice - in what would have been its 50th anniversary had it been released in 1967. We haven't heard it live before with Al (and for that matter Matt).

Another SMiLE tour is about the last interesting thing I think Brian & Al can do to fill seats. The "Pet Sounds" cash cow is going to shrivel up if they keep pulling this "final performance" bullshit in the same cities. But I would be incredibly excited by a SMiLE tour, since I was 11 years old and wouldn't have known Brian Wilson if he were my neighbor at the time.  :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ang Jones on February 08, 2017, 09:27:30 AM
Love the new profile Billy! :lol

I had to do a double take, for a second there I thought the real deal was back :smash hahaha

Me too!  Very funny!

As for Brian performing some other album - I know it isn't going to happen but SMiLE would have been nice - in what would have been its 50th anniversary had it been released in 1967. We haven't heard it live before with Al (and for that matter Matt).

Another SMiLE tour is about the last interesting thing I think Brian & Al can do to fill seats. The "Pet Sounds" cash cow is going to shrivel up if they keep pulling this "final performance" bullshit in the same cities. But I would be incredibly excited by a SMiLE tour, since I was 11 years old and wouldn't have known Brian Wilson if he were my neighbor at the time.  :lol

I wish they'd at least do a mini-suite  during the show as a nod to that 50th anniversary-that-isn't-really.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on February 08, 2017, 09:56:37 AM
Love the new profile Billy! :lol

I had to do a double take, for a second there I thought the real deal was back :smash hahaha

Me too!  Very funny!

As for Brian performing some other album - I know it isn't going to happen but SMiLE would have been nice - in what would have been its 50th anniversary had it been released in 1967. We haven't heard it live before with Al (and for that matter Matt).

Another SMiLE tour is about the last interesting thing I think Brian & Al can do to fill seats. The "Pet Sounds" cash cow is going to shrivel up if they keep pulling this "final performance" bullshit in the same cities. But I would be incredibly excited by a SMiLE tour, since I was 11 years old and wouldn't have known Brian Wilson if he were my neighbor at the time.  :lol

Brian has apparently eschewed doing "Surf's Up" because it's a pain to sing, so I think a full "Smile" tour becomes increasingly less likely.

They did do almost 100 "Smile" shows between 2004 and 2005. While I'd surely rather hear a "Smile" show at this point than "Pet Sounds", what I'd like much more than any "album" show is a full setlist with some truly new and rare additions from throughout the career.

"Smile" is indeed the only other album they could market a tour around. That is, *if* they felt they needed to keep marketing a tour around a specific album. Brian and Al can book "regular" shows too.

As for playing the same cities this year for PS, I think most of the North American dates on the 2017 schedule are either new cities/venues/markets, or a second show in a city/market that wanted a second show last year but couldn't schedule one in time.

Whether we like it or not, the "Pet Sounds" demand isn't shriveling up any time soon. There was an article last year during the tour that described how they had more offers than they could accept. They described how they could have booked a *third* night in San Francisco if the schedule had allowed. If anything, demand is so high that it probably means all of the 2017 dates, wherever they are, will also be PS shows.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on February 08, 2017, 11:31:07 AM
Spot on. Let me clarify, that the "shriveling" would only come, in my opinion, from the back and forth with the fans over the moniker "final". There should never be a doubt that "Pet Sounds" will sell out night after night.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on February 08, 2017, 11:48:59 AM
Spot on. Let me clarify, that the "shriveling" would only come, in my opinion, from the back and forth with the fans over the moniker "final". There should never be a doubt that "Pet Sounds" will sell out night after night.

Well, to be fair to Brian, we're still waiting on the first true "Farewell Tour" of any kind.

The Eagles kept going for years, and were only stopped by Glenn Frey's death

KISS has been touring pretty consistently since their farewell tour in 2000

Scorpions and Judas Priest have each released new albums and done tours since their 2010 farewells

The Who existed for over 30 years after their 1982 farewell tour.  

Motley Crue and Black Sabbath (whose first farewell was in 1999) recently wrapped up farewells, so time will tell if we see them again.  


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 08, 2017, 11:57:27 AM
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As for playing the same cities this year for PS, I think most of the North American dates on the 2017 schedule are either new cities/venues/markets, or a second show in a city/market that wanted a second show last year but couldn't schedule one in time.

Yeah, last year Austin TX was on the schedule (but rained out). This year Brian is coming to HOUSTON baby and I hope to be there!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Lonely Summer on February 09, 2017, 07:42:24 PM
I think the only album that is going to be a sellout concert attraction besides PS is Endless Summer.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on February 09, 2017, 09:01:20 PM
If Brian is still up for touring next year, it would be awesome to see the band celebrate the 30th anniversary of his first solo album.  I think it would work really well live though they could maybe play with the sequencing so that they still close with Love and Mercy for instance.  It might not be a sellout but I think it would satisfy audiences, both casual and hardcore.  They could call the tour "30 Years of Love and Mercy" or something along those lines.  Doubtful that it would happen but still I dream of it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: rab2591 on February 09, 2017, 09:14:26 PM
If Brian is still up for touring next year, it would be awesome to see the band celebrate the 30th anniversary of his first solo album.  I think it would work really well live though they could maybe play with the sequencing so that they still close with Love and Mercy for instance.  It might not be a sellout but I think it would satisfy audiences, both casual and hardcore.  They could call the tour "30 Years of Love and Mercy" or something along those lines.  Doubtful that it would happen but still I dream of it.

I know this will never happen, but I would love this too.

If the band did a more orchestral Pet Sounds-ish version of the BW88 album it would be killer. Put that on a live album release and you've got a tremendous record to listen to.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on February 10, 2017, 06:26:40 AM
I think the only "album-themed" shows we'll ever see from Brian are the obvious; PS and Smile. I could *maybe* envision a shorter "Love You" tour targeted at the super hardcore fans, maybe a super short run of shows in large clubs or small theaters; "Love You" is one of the only Beach Boys albums where Brian wouldn't be left having to do other members' songs that he would never do (which is why we'll never see him do a "Sunflower" tour; I just can't picture him doing "Tears in the Morning", etc.).

I just don't see BW '88 being played in its entirety. Brian has largely stripped solo material out of his shows outside of "Love and Mercy" and maybe a remnant from NPP. Even in 2000 when he was ostensibly promoting the BW '88 CD reissue, the only thing we saw added was "Let It Shine", which only lasted a few months in the setlist. He eventually did do "Melt Away" as I recall here and there. I have no interest particularly in hearing him do "Little Children" live.

Don't get me wrong, I *always* like to see setlists get drastic changes, so I'd still love to see him try the whole BW '88 album for that reason alone.

But there's just zero interest from the masses for a BW '88 tour, and I don't even think among the "hardcore" fans it's high up on the list. A "Love You" tour has been most often thrown around as an idea by hardcore fans.

But apart from the super slim possibility of "Smile", I don't envision Brian taking any other album out on tour for a lengthy period of time.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on February 10, 2017, 08:24:58 AM
Maybe they wouldn't do the whole album but just the thought of the band doing Rio Grande live would be amazing.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: the captain on February 10, 2017, 08:43:15 AM
That's the thing, even if it isn't an "album tour," there is always room for a handful of change-ups. The Jardine-Marks tour from a few years back--'12? '13? I saw it at the MN Zoo--had some great things that hadn't really been done (or at least not often), like "Little Bird," "Wake the World," I think, and a couple others that hadn't really been a part of previous sets. Obviously, the classics are essential and are going to be part of every tour, every show. But 3-5 rarities would be a lot of fun. They don't even have to be Beach Boys tunes, there are plenty of solo songs that I think a lot of us would love to hear (again or for the first time).


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on February 10, 2017, 09:02:15 AM
That's the thing, even if it isn't an "album tour," there is always room for a handful of change-ups. The Jardine-Marks tour from a few years back--'12? '13? I saw it at the MN Zoo--had some great things that hadn't really been done (or at least not often), like "Little Bird," "Wake the World," I think, and a couple others that hadn't really been a part of previous sets. Obviously, the classics are essential and are going to be part of every tour, every show. But 3-5 rarities would be a lot of fun. They don't even have to be Beach Boys tunes, there are plenty of solo songs that I think a lot of us would love to hear (again or for the first time).

Still kicking myself for not going to that 2013 tour for missing a chance to hear Little Bird. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on February 10, 2017, 09:09:30 AM
"Little Bird" was done on the "BAD" 2013 tour. "Wake the World" was debuted on the 2015 summer tour.

I think doing a group of rarities/deep cuts is the way to go, but ironically that probably can't happen so much until they go back to doing "regular" full-length shows that don't feature a full album.

With the PS shows (or a "Smile" show), there's little wiggle room in the setlist. The second set is the full album. The encore is pretty set in stone. Then you have 15 or so songs in the first set, which needs to include a number of the "core" meat and potatoes numbers like "California Girls", "Surfer Girl", a car song or two, etc.

But with no album taking up nearly half the show, there's more space to work with. But I just don't think we're ever going to get a massive overhaul of the setlist. Blondie has been touring regularly with the band for nearly two years now and they've done the same two songs with a third song usually being "Sail Away" other than the small number of shows that got "Funky Pretty."

The 2016 setlist arguably got *less* interesting as the tour progressed, and "Funky Pretty" and "Honkin' Down the Highway" were dropped. "Hushabye" only made it into like five or so shows. They dropped Blondie singing the bridge on "Surfer Girl" after a few nights. Even "Our Prayer" and "Heroes and Villains" were eventually dropped in favor of opening for the millionth time with "California Girls." The weird stuff from 2015 and 2016 like "Monster Mash", "Honeycomb", and "I'm Broke" were all blink-and-you'll-miss-it.

I loved the PS show I saw last year, I'm not trying to get on their case about it too much. But I still don't understand why they haven't just handed even 2 or 3 additional new songs to Al and Blondie, just to get something different like "Lookin' at Tomorrow" or "Don't Go Near the Water" or "Santa Ana Winds" or something.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: the captain on February 10, 2017, 09:22:11 AM
OK, just checked the setlist.fm record of the show I saw, and the show included the following (sometimes semi-)rarities: "Girl Don't Tell Me," "Ol Man River," "Cotton Fields," "Little Bird," "Summertime Blues," "Your Imagination," "Goin Home," "TWGMTR," "California Saga: California," "Summer's Gone." (Not sure why I thought "Wake the World" was in there, but this is a good reason why nobody should ever trust me.)

But point being, it would not be so hard to do a similar handful in each non-full album tour. Sadly, HeyJude, you are right: the opposite has been happening.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Emdeeh on February 10, 2017, 09:31:41 AM
I'd like a 50th anniversary Wild Honey celebration. Don't expect it tho, but I'd be a mighty happy camper if it happened (and willing to travel to see it).


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on February 10, 2017, 09:51:41 AM
I'd like a 50th anniversary Wild Honey celebration. Don't expect it tho, but I'd be a mighty happy camper if it happened (and willing to travel to see it).

I could see them maybe taking a single night to do it, but certainly not multiple shows.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on February 10, 2017, 10:30:21 AM
"Little Bird" was done on the "BAD" 2013 tour. "Wake the World" was debuted on the 2015 summer tour.

I think doing a group of rarities/deep cuts is the way to go, but ironically that probably can't happen so much until they go back to doing "regular" full-length shows that don't feature a full album.

With the PS shows (or a "Smile" show), there's little wiggle room in the setlist. The second set is the full album. The encore is pretty set in stone. Then you have 15 or so songs in the first set, which needs to include a number of the "core" meat and potatoes numbers like "California Girls", "Surfer Girl", a car song or two, etc.

But with no album taking up nearly half the show, there's more space to work with. But I just don't think we're ever going to get a massive overhaul of the setlist. Blondie has been touring regularly with the band for nearly two years now and they've done the same two songs with a third song usually being "Sail Away" other than the small number of shows that got "Funky Pretty."

The 2016 setlist arguably got *less* interesting as the tour progressed, and "Funky Pretty" and "Honkin' Down the Highway" were dropped. "Hushabye" only made it into like five or so shows. They dropped Blondie singing the bridge on "Surfer Girl" after a few nights. Even "Our Prayer" and "Heroes and Villains" were eventually dropped in favor of opening for the millionth time with "California Girls." The weird stuff from 2015 and 2016 like "Monster Mash", "Honeycomb", and "I'm Broke" were all blink-and-you'll-miss-it.

I loved the PS show I saw last year, I'm not trying to get on their case about it too much. But I still don't understand why they haven't just handed even 2 or 3 additional new songs to Al and Blondie, just to get something different like "Lookin' at Tomorrow" or "Don't Go Near the Water" or "Santa Ana Winds" or something.

They threw in a snippet of River Deep Mountain High when I saw them in Baltimore.  Paul and Blondie traded vox on the "I love you baby like the......." bit.  It was at the beginning, right after California Girls.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on February 10, 2017, 11:26:53 AM
OK, just checked the setlist.fm record of the show I saw, and the show included the following (sometimes semi-)rarities: "Girl Don't Tell Me," "Ol Man River," "Cotton Fields," "Little Bird," "Summertime Blues," "Your Imagination," "Goin Home," "TWGMTR," "California Saga: California," "Summer's Gone." (Not sure why I thought "Wake the World" was in there, but this is a good reason why nobody should ever trust me.)

But point being, it would not be so hard to do a similar handful in each non-full album tour. Sadly, HeyJude, you are right: the opposite has been happening.

You were able to see one of the very few full-length shows the Brian/Al/Dave lineup did. They only did that little run of shows earlier in 2013, 6 shows as I recall, and then on the Beck tour later in the year the shows were drastically shortened. So those early 2013 shows did have some more weird inclusions, including one of the few times Al has been with Brian when Brian did solo stuff like "Goin' Home" and "Your Imagination." Those were also the only shows where Brian did any TWGMTR tracks.

I recall those few 2013 full-length dates weaved in a few other rare songs at one point or another, including "This Car of Mine", "Custom Machine", "Let Him Run Wild", "Break Away", and Dave singing "Forever."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on February 12, 2017, 10:47:38 AM
A SMiLE mini-set after the PS songs would work for me this year.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Emdeeh on February 14, 2017, 06:34:57 AM
New date: August 3, in Glasgow, Scotland, Kelvingrove Park

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15089895.Brian_Wilson_and_Pixies_among_headliners_for_Kelvingrove_Park_music_festival/


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Shady on February 14, 2017, 07:30:52 AM
Pet Sounds will be 60 by the time this tour is over.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: the captain on February 14, 2017, 03:09:09 PM
And thus begins that anniversary tour!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Emdeeh on February 15, 2017, 01:25:16 PM
Another new one, from the BW message board:

June 29, Odense, Denmark at the Odean


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Pretty Funky on February 15, 2017, 04:43:21 PM
And thus begins that anniversary tour!

Let's not forget March 26 will be the first anniversary of the beginning of 50th anniversary.  ::)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Lonely Summer on February 15, 2017, 11:59:45 PM
If Brian is still up for touring next year, it would be awesome to see the band celebrate the 30th anniversary of his first solo album.  I think it would work really well live though they could maybe play with the sequencing so that they still close with Love and Mercy for instance.  It might not be a sellout but I think it would satisfy audiences, both casual and hardcore.  They could call the tour "30 Years of Love and Mercy" or something along those lines.  Doubtful that it would happen but still I dream of it.
This NEEDS to happen! Would be amazing to hear those songs played on the natural instruments instead of synths. I say keep the tracks mostly in the order of the album, but kickoff with Night Time, fake ending with Rio Grande (how can you top that? you can't; so the band leaves the stage, and encores with Love and Mercy).


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ang Jones on February 16, 2017, 05:20:11 AM
Dates in Frankfurt (July 19th) Dublin (July 25th) and Finland (July 13th) have also been added.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on February 16, 2017, 06:40:21 AM
I've added all the new dates, as well as a July 15th Italy show listed at the BBFC website. Can anyone confirm the city and venue for the July 13 Finland show? I was able to find all the others, but not that one.

There is also apparently a three night run in May *2018* in Nashville with the Symphony Orchestra, with Brian and Al (interestingly *not* billed as "Pet Sounds" shows for those who are convinced every show for the next decade will be a PS show).


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Jukka on February 16, 2017, 06:45:40 AM
The Finland concert takes place in Pori, PoriJazz festival, Kirjurinluoto outdoor arena. Wonderful place, I'm definitely going to be there!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ang Jones on February 16, 2017, 12:11:15 PM
I've added all the new dates, as well as a July 15th Italy show listed at the BBFC website. Can anyone confirm the city and venue for the July 13 Finland show? I was able to find all the others, but not that one.

There is also apparently a three night run in May *2018* in Nashville with the Symphony Orchestra, with Brian and Al (interestingly *not* billed as "Pet Sounds" shows for those who are convinced every show for the next decade will be a PS show).

Sorry I didn't get back to you on that one and thanks to Jukka who did. There's also Wiener Stadhalle,Vienna on July 20th.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll on February 18, 2017, 05:36:10 AM
Newcastle Date - August 6th - Live from Times Square


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Bicyclerider on February 18, 2017, 08:17:30 PM
If Brian is still up for touring next year, it would be awesome to see the band celebrate the 30th anniversary of his first solo album.  I think it would work really well live though they could maybe play with the sequencing so that they still close with Love and Mercy for instance.  It might not be a sellout but I think it would satisfy audiences, both casual and hardcore.  They could call the tour "30 Years of Love and Mercy" or something along those lines.  Doubtful that it would happen but still I dream of it.
This NEEDS to happen! Would be amazing to hear those songs played on the natural instruments instead of synths. I say keep the tracks mostly in the order of the album, but kickoff with Night Time, fake ending with Rio Grande (how can you top that? you can't; so the band leaves the stage, and encores with Love and Mercy).

I would definitely buy a live album of BW 88 with his band playing the music without synths and Brian, Al, Matt and Blondie.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 18, 2017, 10:43:39 PM
My daughter said she had a dream that Brian sang Let it Shine at the houston show. Course it's one of her favorite solo songs and is teaching herself how to play the chords on her keyboard


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on February 19, 2017, 04:19:52 PM
Let it Shine (for Billy's family) ;)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on February 19, 2017, 10:10:21 PM
Let it Shine would be an awesome addition to this show. I was blaring it as we left the garage from the Strathmore gig and lots of people were gettin' down on their way back to their car! :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: thorgil on February 20, 2017, 10:49:37 AM
Maybe they wouldn't do the whole album but just the thought of the band doing Rio Grande live would be amazing.
Yes, it would be amazing. Just, won't happen. There is so much music by Brian that simply screams for a live rendition with organic instruments, that it never had. Instead we get Pet Sounds (and Barbara Ann, and Help Me Rhonda etc.) for the billionth time. Rio Grande, or any other of a hundred underrated gems, every one better than AT LEAST Barbara Ann? Not once.   
All that great music out there, confined to a suboptimal album release or not even that. This is killing art in favour of business.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on February 28, 2017, 01:14:51 PM
Added more dates to the top post based on listings from the BW website. As always, please let me know if anything needs to be corrected or if there are any more dates to add.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Pretty Funky on February 28, 2017, 02:59:37 PM
edit. Misread headline. :P


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Lonely Summer on March 01, 2017, 11:55:33 PM
Maybe they wouldn't do the whole album but just the thought of the band doing Rio Grande live would be amazing.
Yes, it would be amazing. Just, won't happen. There is so much music by Brian that simply screams for a live rendition with organic instruments, that it never had. Instead we get Pet Sounds (and Barbara Ann, and Help Me Rhonda etc.) for the billionth time. Rio Grande, or any other of a hundred underrated gems, every one better than AT LEAST Barbara Ann? Not once.   
All that great music out there, confined to a suboptimal album release or not even that. This is killing art in favour of business.
Yes it is; and it reminds me again, that the general public thinks Brian and the Beach Boys are only Pet Sounds and the Endless Summer album.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on March 08, 2017, 03:46:46 PM
Can't wait for it to start! Wondering if there will be some setlist changes...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on March 08, 2017, 05:11:04 PM
Can't wait for it to start! Wondering if there will be some setlist changes...

I hope not, i mean yes, but like, i hope not as in i hope he doesn't drop off Wake The World or stuff like Add Some Music

This is my first time seeing the Beach Boys, i wouldn't want to see Mike's show, i couldn't get around the 2012 reunion cause they were always somewhere i was not and we all know it was cut short, i almost got to the London show but i couldn't due to trips i had to do, which is heartbreaking considering they did Summer's Gone ...

So now i get to see Brian with Al and Blondie, doing Pet Sounds in full and hits and rarities! i couldn't wish for better, well i could: with a bit more Love You songs, they dropped Honkey since, havn't they? is All This Is That still a thing too? either way, it's gonna be very emotional!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on March 08, 2017, 05:17:33 PM
Hoping that there's some stuff added.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on March 09, 2017, 06:56:18 AM
Can't wait for it to start! Wondering if there will be some setlist changes...

I hope not, i mean yes, but like, i hope not as in i hope he doesn't drop off Wake The World or stuff like Add Some Music

This is my first time seeing the Beach Boys, i wouldn't want to see Mike's show, i couldn't get around the 2012 reunion cause they were always somewhere i was not and we all know it was cut short, i almost got to the London show but i couldn't due to trips i had to do, which is heartbreaking considering they did Summer's Gone ...

So now i get to see Brian with Al and Blondie, doing Pet Sounds in full and hits and rarities! i couldn't wish for better, well i could: with a bit more Love You songs, they dropped Honkey since, havn't they? is All This Is That still a thing too? either way, it's gonna be very emotional!

I could be wrong, but I don't think Brian's ever done All This Is That as a solo artist. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 09, 2017, 11:09:58 AM
Can't wait for it to start! Wondering if there will be some setlist changes...

I hope not, i mean yes, but like, i hope not as in i hope he doesn't drop off Wake The World or stuff like Add Some Music

This is my first time seeing the Beach Boys, i wouldn't want to see Mike's show, i couldn't get around the 2012 reunion cause they were always somewhere i was not and we all know it was cut short, i almost got to the London show but i couldn't due to trips i had to do, which is heartbreaking considering they did Summer's Gone ...

So now i get to see Brian with Al and Blondie, doing Pet Sounds in full and hits and rarities! i couldn't wish for better, well i could: with a bit more Love You songs, they dropped Honkey since, havn't they? is All This Is That still a thing too? either way, it's gonna be very emotional!


No. I did not know that.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 09, 2017, 11:20:54 AM
Can't wait for it to start! Wondering if there will be some setlist changes...

I hope not, i mean yes, but like, i hope not as in i hope he doesn't drop off Wake The World or stuff like Add Some Music

This is my first time seeing the Beach Boys, i wouldn't want to see Mike's show, i couldn't get around the 2012 reunion cause they were always somewhere i was not and we all know it was cut short, i almost got to the London show but i couldn't due to trips i had to do, which is heartbreaking considering they did Summer's Gone ...

So now i get to see Brian with Al and Blondie, doing Pet Sounds in full and hits and rarities! i couldn't wish for better, well i could: with a bit more Love You songs, they dropped Honkey since, havn't they? is All This Is That still a thing too? either way, it's gonna be very emotional!

Yes, "Honkin' was dropped very quickly from the setlist. By my rough count, they did around 100 shows last year and "Honkin' Down the Highway" was only performed NINE times. For whatever reason (I'm guessing they felt it wasn't being too warmly received), they didn't seem that keen on it even though the hardcore fans ate it up.

As for "All This Is That", the only Brian-related performances (outside of vintage BB shows from the 70s) were on the 2012 reunion tour. Brian has never done the song solo. As I've often said, if you look at Brian's setlists, he *very rarely* does songs that he didn't write or co-write, especially if you factor out the odd oldie/cover. Even most of the Al and Blondie-sung songs are written or co-written by Brian. There are a few exceptions like "California Saga" and the rare cases of doing something like "Forever." But as a general rule, Brian's shows rarely feature Beach Boys songs that were written without Brian's involvement, which is why "All This Is That" is unlikely.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Lowbacca on March 09, 2017, 01:04:00 PM
Dates in Frankfurt (July 19th) Dublin (July 25th) and Finland (July 13th) have also been added.
I'll be in Frankfurt. :3d Who else?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on March 09, 2017, 04:29:18 PM
Hoping that there's some stuff added.

Haha yeah that's the best case scenario! was that how it went in his tours before?

I could be wrong, but I don't think Brian's ever done All This Is That as a solo artist.  

Yes, "Honkin' was dropped very quickly from the setlist. By my rough count, they did around 100 shows last year and "Honkin' Down the Highway" was only performed NINE times. For whatever reason (I'm guessing they felt it wasn't being too warmly received), they didn't seem that keen on it even though the hardcore fans ate it up.

As for "All This Is That", the only Brian-related performances (outside of vintage BB shows from the 70s) were on the 2012 reunion tour. Brian has never done the song solo. As I've often said, if you look at Brian's setlists, he *very rarely* does songs that he didn't write or co-write, especially if you factor out the odd oldie/cover. Even most of the Al and Blondie-sung songs are written or co-written by Brian. There are a few exceptions like "California Saga" and the rare cases of doing something like "Forever." But as a general rule, Brian's shows rarely feature Beach Boys songs that were written without Brian's involvement, which is why "All This Is That" is unlikely.

You guys are right for All This Is That, and i'm aware Brian does the stuff he writes and that's all cool, it's just that, i don't know i felt since this "solo" tour features Al and Blondie i figure maybe All This Is That would be thrown in since it was already for the 50th reunion, figured there was a chance for it to happen with their set for more "rarities" songs but, yehhh

Real unfortunate for Honkey, altho ultimately it's not a fav of Love You but since that's like the only one they play.. i hope Wake The World got the love it deserves and that it stays!!! i'll be devastated if i'm missing that on the Seattle show... but hey maybe he'll have some surprise, i mean who thought he would bring this one out and make it a classic of his setlists now right?

Can't wait for it to start! Wondering if there will be some setlist changes...

I hope not, i mean yes, but like, i hope not as in i hope he doesn't drop off Wake The World or stuff like Add Some Music

This is my first time seeing the Beach Boys, i wouldn't want to see Mike's show, i couldn't get around the 2012 reunion cause they were always somewhere i was not and we all know it was cut short, i almost got to the London show but i couldn't due to trips i had to do, which is heartbreaking considering they did Summer's Gone ...

So now i get to see Brian with Al and Blondie, doing Pet Sounds in full and hits and rarities! i couldn't wish for better, well i could: with a bit more Love You songs, they dropped Honkey since, havn't they? is All This Is That still a thing too? either way, it's gonna be very emotional!


No. I did not know that.

Well, you do now sir! it's been told everywhere, even by Mike Love himself in his new book i believe ;)
i mean a 70something shows for the reunion comeback tour of the biggest band of america? yeah we've seen better.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 09, 2017, 07:22:07 PM
Could we just say they signed for 70 plus shows, did them all, and did not take up offers of other opportunities please?

(Brian also did not 'leave the tour' in June 2012 as some stories still state today.)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 09, 2017, 09:20:54 PM
Could we just say they signed for 70 plus shows, did them all, and did not take up offers of other opportunities please?

(Brian also did not 'leave the tour' in June 2012 as some stories still state today.)

I don't think it's inflammatory at all to say the tour was cut short. I think we all understand that this refers to what could have been, and doesn't mean they literally cancelled agreed-upon scheduled dates.

I don't understand the purpose of being so adamant about not pointing out the epic clusterf**k that was the end of the tour in terms of both how and when it ended. It's not a big hot button topic anymore, I think we're all over that disappointment and realize why it ended. But it doesn't mean we have to tow Mike's lame "set end date" excuse.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 09, 2017, 10:28:39 PM
So 'alternative facts' are ok here now?

It was a CF ending agreed.

Mikes "lame" set end date excuse is catching BTW.

'....and insists the tour ended at the time all members had agreed on.' (Brian Wilson)

http://www.pollstar.com/news_article.aspx?ID=829066



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 10, 2017, 06:17:54 AM
Brian has for several years now been giving essentially an "I burned the Smile tapes" answer to questions about C50, and I don't blame him. After that LA Times piece in 2012, he clearly had *no* interest in rehashing the C50 topic again. We all KNOW Brian wanted to continue the reunion, and even saying the tour ended when it was scheduled to doesn't negate that.

This is all semantics, and nobody else even broached the subject of hashing this tired subject out again until a poster up above innocently mentioned that they didn't get a chance to see C50 because the tour wasn't longer. One fan said up above he felt the tour was cut short, and by one definition (e.g. this fan may have been able to see the band had the tour been extended), it's certainly true. And *nobody* jumped on that post and started bashing Mike for not doing more dates, etc. Instead, it was one "incredulous" post trying to pull out that one little bit in that poster's comments to conspicuously defend Mike from legit complaints that he essentially quit the band in late 2012 and went back to his own thing.

Brian is correct in his statement that the tour ended at the previously agreed-upon date that they all signed contracts for. Brian has also said that he wanted the tour to continue on past those agreed-upon dates.

Again, NOBODY has EVER claimed any contracts were broken, or any promises were broken, or any agreed-upon dates were canceled.

Brian's 2012 letter to the LA Times was pretty clear. No dates were canceled. He wanted to do more. Very simple concept. Mike didn't break any contracts. But he was the *sole* reason (by all accounts including his own) that they didn't continue the tour.

The complaint back in 2012 which is still *just as valid* today is that Mike *chose* to leave a willing Brian and Al (and Dave and Bruce would have agreed as well), who wanted to continue the reunion. This is not a complicated concept. Mike didn't end the party early. He simply chose to not let the party continue past the very conservative, minimal amount of time the party was originally able to be scheduled for.

But no, I think it's silly to have to avoid brevity in stating the tour was cut short when we ALL know what we're talking about (e.g. *not* that anybody canceled scheduled tour dates) and instead use the ridiculously cumbersome, Mike-absolving verbiage such as "did not take up offers for other opportunities."

Let's also be clear: We all understand how the band has splintered and how the "licensed" band works and all of that, and we all know why logistically/functionally/politically these guys can't make it work to stay together as one unit. But I think it's short-sighted and disrespectful to the entire band's legacy to treat the 2012 reunion *in concept* as if it was some sort of one-time, crazy anomaly, as if it was that David Lee Roth-Sammy Hagar joint tour from some years back, or that "Yes" tour where they had members from all the 27 different lineups on stage. The Beach Boys *are* that band that was on stage in 2012, and at the end of the day Mike walked; he quit *THE* band to go back to *A* band that uses the name. He has every legal right to do so, but as someone who (obviously) lived through that period and who has read and absorbed every bit about C50 possible, I refuse to let history be rewritten to leave out the fact that Mike Love essentially quit The Beach Boys in 2012, and apparently by his own admission mostly because he couldn't stand Brian's wife.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on March 10, 2017, 07:12:49 AM
At least in five years, nobody will be complaining about the PS50 Tour being cut short.

 ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on March 10, 2017, 07:40:28 AM
Oh come on, okay right the band totally planned and prepared an only 70something dates comeback reunion tour and leave it there, wouldn't never think of making a bigger profit of a such unique and massive successfull opportunity that with that came with a hit album, yeah sure everyone all agreed to that! Brians followup ideas? his rock'n'roll album? woop, that was a mistake! Mike Loves constant bitching whining and shades thrown (still to this fraking day in his book!) at Brians camp afterwards regarding the album sessions and the tour experience?? oh, totally unrelated! surely all of this is coincidental and the band ended it where they originally aimed to end, like there's totally no bad blood anywhere - at all

 ::) :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 10, 2017, 07:44:44 AM
At least in five years, nobody will be complaining about the PS50 Tour being cut short.

 ;D

One of the interesting things is that some folks, sometimes (not always) in defending Mike in the aftermath of C50, pointed to the idea that Brian would not be able to regularly do 75 dates per year, let alone more, as further indication as to why additional reunion activity wasn't plausible.

Yet, in 2016 he did *more* shows than he did on C50, and did more heavy lifting on those shows than he did on C50. He did around 100 shows last year as I recall.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 10, 2017, 07:52:23 AM
At least in five years, nobody will be complaining about the PS50 Tour being cut short.

 ;D

One of the interesting things is that some folks, sometimes (not always) in defending Mike in the aftermath of C50, pointed to the idea that Brian would not be able to regularly do 75 dates per year, let alone more, as further indication as to why additional reunion activity wasn't plausible.

Yet, in 2016 he did *more* shows than he did on C50, and did more heavy lifting on those shows than he did on C50. He did around 100 shows last year as I recall.

I think there is still truth to the initial statement if one detail is emphasized...I don't think Brian would be able to regularly do 75+ dates a year under Mike Love's terms regularly.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: barsone on March 10, 2017, 08:04:18 AM
Bingo  +10


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on March 10, 2017, 08:28:10 AM
And oh wow what a shocker: Mike and his girlfriend Bruce aren't playing any songs at all from TWGMTR, jeez louis how i wonder why

(but suure have some space for that Pisces Brothers! cause that's totally a Beach Boys song, and a well loved one!)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on March 10, 2017, 08:36:59 AM
At least in five years, nobody will be complaining about the PS50 Tour being cut short.

 ;D

One of the interesting things is that some folks, sometimes (not always) in defending Mike in the aftermath of C50, pointed to the idea that Brian would not be able to regularly do 75 dates per year, let alone more, as further indication as to why additional reunion activity wasn't plausible.

Yet, in 2016 he did *more* shows than he did on C50, and did more heavy lifting on those shows than he did on C50. He did around 100 shows last year as I recall.

I think there is still truth to the initial statement if one detail is emphasized...I don't think Brian would be able to regularly do 75+ dates a year under Mike Love's terms regularly.

I also think that, had the reunion continued, they would've had to scale back on the amount of musicians.  There's a lot of overhead when you're basically touring with two full bands.  And, I think eventually, they would've had to start playing smaller venues once the novelty of the reunion wore off. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 10, 2017, 08:54:03 AM
I think there is still truth to the initial statement if one detail is emphasized...I don't think Brian would be able to regularly do 75+ dates a year under Mike Love's terms regularly.

I don't think at least some of the folks back in 2012 who were advocating the "Brian doesn't have the stamina" angle really specified under what terms it would happen.

It would of course depend on what Mike's terms are. But if we're talking about Brian balking at just joining Mike's band (a legit reason to balk I would say), then that's really not a stamina issue and would be a case of choosing not to do something for artistic reasons.

Any BB tour with any group of musicians would require *less* activity and heavy lifting from Brian compared to his solo shows.

I guess we can get into the nuts and bolts of levels of comfort like travel accommodations, where Mike by his own admission does things on the cheap. But I don't think it's even 1% legit to knock Brian if a theoretical "under Mike's terms" tour dictated taking away amenities that Brian might need due to infirmities like back problems, etc.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 10, 2017, 09:00:06 AM
At least in five years, nobody will be complaining about the PS50 Tour being cut short.

 ;D

One of the interesting things is that some folks, sometimes (not always) in defending Mike in the aftermath of C50, pointed to the idea that Brian would not be able to regularly do 75 dates per year, let alone more, as further indication as to why additional reunion activity wasn't plausible.

Yet, in 2016 he did *more* shows than he did on C50, and did more heavy lifting on those shows than he did on C50. He did around 100 shows last year as I recall.

I think there is still truth to the initial statement if one detail is emphasized...I don't think Brian would be able to regularly do 75+ dates a year under Mike Love's terms regularly.

I also think that, had the reunion continued, they would've had to scale back on the amount of musicians.  There's a lot of overhead when you're basically touring with two full bands.  And, I think eventually, they would've had to start playing smaller venues once the novelty of the reunion wore off. 

The C50 lineup would have continued to be hugely lucrative (I still question Mike's characterization of the tour losing money in his book, but even in his book he says the tour turned a profit by the time it hit Europe, not perhaps coincidentally right before the thing ended), and there were a myriad of options they could have played out to capitalize on it.

One, as Howie Edelson suggested several times, was a Vegas residency. There are Vegas residencies with *larger* on stage contingents of musicians (and dancers, etc.) than the C50 band that are amazingly lucrative.

Would the "reunion" eventually have lost novelty to the point of needing to book smaller venues? Perhaps, though good management could have mitigated this. But let's remember that those who wanted to see "more reunion shows" weren't necessarily calling for it to go on forever. Indications are that, prior to the band biffing the end of tour announcement with oodles of bad PR, interest in more shows was actually *increasing* to the point of getting offers for *larger* venues including indoor arenas and even outdoor stadiums.

Things were trending UP as the tour went on (not internally, but in terms of PR and critical approval and fan appreciation and money coming in), so I think we were quite a ways off from needing to address having to wind down the tour in any way in terms of musicians, etc.

I don't buy that the contingent of musicians on C50 lost the tour money. Of course a smaller band means less overhead. But Brian continues to tour with a similar-sized band (certainly much larger than Mike's), playing smaller venues than a lot of the C50 shows, yet they're able to make that work financially.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on March 10, 2017, 09:11:33 AM
At least in five years, nobody will be complaining about the PS50 Tour being cut short.

 ;D

One of the interesting things is that some folks, sometimes (not always) in defending Mike in the aftermath of C50, pointed to the idea that Brian would not be able to regularly do 75 dates per year, let alone more, as further indication as to why additional reunion activity wasn't plausible.

Yet, in 2016 he did *more* shows than he did on C50, and did more heavy lifting on those shows than he did on C50. He did around 100 shows last year as I recall.

I think there is still truth to the initial statement if one detail is emphasized...I don't think Brian would be able to regularly do 75+ dates a year under Mike Love's terms regularly.

I also think that, had the reunion continued, they would've had to scale back on the amount of musicians.  There's a lot of overhead when you're basically touring with two full bands.  And, I think eventually, they would've had to start playing smaller venues once the novelty of the reunion wore off. 

The C50 lineup would have continued to be hugely lucrative (I still question Mike's characterization of the tour losing money in his book, but even in his book he says the tour turned a profit by the time it hit Europe, not perhaps coincidentally right before the thing ended), and there were a myriad of options they could have played out to capitalize on it.

One, as Howie Edelson suggested several times, was a Vegas residency. There are Vegas residencies with *larger* on stage contingents of musicians (and dancers, etc.) than the C50 band that are amazingly lucrative.

Would the "reunion" eventually have lost novelty to the point of needing to book smaller venues? Perhaps, though good management could have mitigated this. But let's remember that those who wanted to see "more reunion shows" weren't necessarily calling for it to go on forever. Indications are that, prior to the band biffing the end of tour announcement with oodles of bad PR, interest in more shows was actually *increasing* to the point of getting offers for *larger* venues including indoor arenas and even outdoor stadiums.

Things were trending UP as the tour went on (not internally, but in terms of PR and critical approval and fan appreciation and money coming in), so I think we were quite a ways off from needing to address having to wind down the tour in any way in terms of musicians, etc.

I don't buy that the contingent of musicians on C50 lost the tour money. Of course a smaller band means less overhead. But Brian continues to tour with a similar-sized band (certainly much larger than Mike's), playing smaller venues than a lot of the C50 shows, yet they're able to make that work financially.

Just about any reunion loses steam after awhile.  Most artists then chose to either scale back on the number of tours (ie. Kiss), take a long hiatus (ie. Black Sabbath), or start doing package tours (ie. Styx). 

Just an opinion, but I think after awhile The Beach Boys would've had to do one of the options, must likely less touring, maybe an every other, or every third year type of thing. 

You also mentioned two words that are absent in the Beach Boys universe - good management.  That would cure a lot of ills. 

And, let's also talk about, not just touring, but what about the follow-up to TWGMTR.  It's rumored that many of the tracks that appeared on NPP were to be on that BB album that never was.  Does that mean that a studio version of Pisces Brother could've been sitting between The Right Time and Sail Away?  Unless its replacing Runaway Dancer, that surely would've weakened the album IMO. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 10, 2017, 09:19:57 AM
The Beach Boys have never had a handle on when less can be more...as in, less shows at certain times can bring in more dough in the long run. The 50th ann. reunion was no exception.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 10, 2017, 09:26:27 AM
Just about any reunion loses steam after awhile.  Most artists then chose to either scale back on the number of tours (ie. Kiss), take a long hiatus (ie. Black Sabbath), or start doing package tours (ie. Styx). 

Just an opinion, but I think after awhile The Beach Boys would've had to do one of the options, must likely less touring, maybe an every other, or every third year type of thing. 

You also mentioned two words that are absent in the Beach Boys universe - good management.  That would cure a lot of ills. 

And, let's also talk about, not just touring, but what about the follow-up to TWGMTR.  It's rumored that many of the tracks that appeared on NPP were to be on that BB album that never was.  Does that mean that a studio version of Pisces Brother could've been sitting between The Right Time and Sail Away?  Unless its replacing Runaway Dancer, that surely would've weakened the album IMO. 

It think one of the things that has happened, and perhaps this comes in part from newer fans that got into the band (or got into the hardcore) after 1997/98, is that some treat or characterize the "reunion" as the anomaly. And from a statistical standpoint in terms of who has been up there on stage over all these 50+ years, that certainly is true.

But marketing a "reunion" tour is being treated by some the same as, say, Brian marketing a "Pet Sounds" tour, as if it's *not* something that is less about doing a one-shot weird thing, and more about *getting the band back to what it should be.*

I wouldn't have even said this before the tour, because I think most of us thought one possibility was that it would be kind of a middling tour where it was more about the novelty of just seeing them together and less about being an *active, high profile, kick-ass* musical unit. But the tour (and to some degree the album) changed all of that. It was the embodiment of the "whole is greater than the sum..." cliché. I think Brian and Al recognized that. I think Mike was too blinded by his hang-ups to fully feel the same.

But from the fan perspective (not the logistical/band politics perspective), I would treat the reunion as getting the thing back to what it should be, where it's at its best, and then work from there. Keeping the band together should be more important than Mike "playing vital small markets" and all of that.

Considering the reunion WAS hugely successful and didn't bomb in any way, the reunion *should have* been a vital and key shift from that point on with the band. As Howie Edelson put it, the band went from Frankie Valli to Mick Jagger, a HUGE, fundamental shift in their rep in every corner of the music industry, and Mike didn't care and the whole thing fell apart due to Mike and bad management.

It's also quite possible that the other members (meaning mainly Mike) could have still kept their side stuff going for plenty of private and corporate gigs and "off season" shows, etc.

As for any future BB album, I think the indications seem to suggest it would have been something of a "TWGMTR 2", with plent of Brian-Joe songs (including stuff cut during the TWGMTR sessions) with some additions from Mike. I'm all about getting the stuff out there, so I would have been more than happy to see another album happen by allowing Mike to fly in some of his own stuff like "Pisces Brothers."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 10, 2017, 09:31:03 AM
The Beach Boys have never had a handle on when less can be more...as in, less shows at certain times can bring in more dough in the long run. The 50th ann. reunion was no exception.

I think the last time anybody even attempted to advocate for doing *less* touring was probably Carl back in the late 70s or early 80s. He supposedly had the (correct, in my opinion) idea that if they had toured less often, perhaps every other year, then they wouldn't oversaturate the market and would be able to play bigger shows.

Yes, I think we'd all love to be up close right against the stage to see the Beach Boys play at the Castroville Artichoke Festival, but for the sake of the success and profile of the band, playing Madison Square Garden and whatnot would have been better.

I don't think they overextended themselves in 2012, though. That was a light tour both compared to what Mike normally does, and also compared to what the reunion could have brought in. They *barely* touched on markets outside of the US, doing only 23 dates across all of Asia, Australia/New Zealand, and Europe. Two shows in the UK? Any Brian or Mike tour usually spends at least several weeks in the UK. They should have been doing another 50 shows across those markets, and then swung back around in 2013 to hit markets in the US they hadn't already hit, do second shows in markets that could handle it, and then swung around to international markets they've never touched before like China and Russia.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on March 10, 2017, 09:31:22 AM
The Beach Boys have never had a handle on when less can be more...as in, less shows at certain times can bring in more dough in the long run. The 50th ann. reunion was no exception.

This is true.  


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on March 10, 2017, 09:34:39 AM
To get back on topic, i'm crossing fingers for Brian to bring Funky Pretty in the set, now would be the time or never to pull that one off with Al and Blondie joining forces!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 10, 2017, 09:36:30 AM
To get back on topic, i'm crossing fingers for Brian to bring Funky Pretty in the set, now would be the time or never to pull that one off with Al and Blondie joining forces!


They were doing "Funky Pretty" for a while last year, and then it inexplicably was dropped in favor of bringing back "Sail Away." The trend across 2016 was to drop some of the rarities for some reason.

With each new tour though, usually something new springs up. I would only hope the first 2017 setlist isn't identical to the last 2016 setlist.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on March 10, 2017, 09:40:14 AM
To get back on topic, i'm crossing fingers for Brian to bring Funky Pretty in the set, now would be the time or never to pull that one off with Al and Blondie joining forces!


They were doing "Funky Pretty" for a while last year, and then it inexplicably was dropped in favor of bringing back "Sail Away." The trend across 2016 was to drop some of the rarities for some reason.

With each new tour though, usually something new springs up. I would only hope the first 2017 setlist isn't identical to the last 2016 setlist.

I know I'm likely in the minority on this board, but I was glad to see my favorite NPP song replace my least favorite Holland song on the setlist.  Frankly, I didn't think the version of Funky Pretty the band did in Baltimore last August was that great. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on March 10, 2017, 09:41:51 AM
To get back on topic, i'm crossing fingers for Brian to bring Funky Pretty in the set, now would be the time or never to pull that one off with Al and Blondie joining forces!


They were doing "Funky Pretty" for a while last year, and then it inexplicably was dropped in favor of bringing back "Sail Away." The trend across 2016 was to drop some of the rarities for some reason.

With each new tour though, usually something new springs up. I would only hope the first 2017 setlist isn't identical to the last 2016 setlist.

I've being so out of loop, it's just ridiculous and embarassing! i need to check on that

That is not very reassuring, i'd be ultra bummed out if they drop Wake The World to bring back Isn't It Time :(

I'm really sad Brians camp is still isn't pushing Love You, that album has a real underestimated cult, not just fanbase, but among celebrities, bands and artists such as Big Star, BMX Bandits, Patti Smith, Explorers Club praised it, etc etc


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 10, 2017, 09:48:10 AM
To get back on topic, i'm crossing fingers for Brian to bring Funky Pretty in the set, now would be the time or never to pull that one off with Al and Blondie joining forces!


They were doing "Funky Pretty" for a while last year, and then it inexplicably was dropped in favor of bringing back "Sail Away." The trend across 2016 was to drop some of the rarities for some reason.

With each new tour though, usually something new springs up. I would only hope the first 2017 setlist isn't identical to the last 2016 setlist.

I've being so out of loop, it's just ridiculous and embarassing! i need to check on that

That is not very reassuring, i'd be ultra bummed out if they drop Wake The World to bring back Isn't It Time :(

I'm really sad Brians camp is still isn't pushing Love You, that album has a real underestimated cult, not just fanbase, but among celebrities, bands and artists such as Big Star, BMX Bandits, Patti Smith, Explorers Club praised it, etc etc

Brian has never done "Isn't It Time" solo, so I don't think that one is very likely. "Wake the World" seems to be to the liking of both Brian and Al, and it allows Al another lead (though I saw its first performance on tour in 2015 and Brian sang the lead), so I'd say the chances are pretty good of seeing "Wake the World" stay in the setlist.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 10, 2017, 09:49:19 AM
To get back on topic, i'm crossing fingers for Brian to bring Funky Pretty in the set, now would be the time or never to pull that one off with Al and Blondie joining forces!


They were doing "Funky Pretty" for a while last year, and then it inexplicably was dropped in favor of bringing back "Sail Away." The trend across 2016 was to drop some of the rarities for some reason.

With each new tour though, usually something new springs up. I would only hope the first 2017 setlist isn't identical to the last 2016 setlist.

I know I'm likely in the minority on this board, but I was glad to see my favorite NPP song replace my least favorite Holland song on the setlist.  Frankly, I didn't think the version of Funky Pretty the band did in Baltimore last August was that great. 

I've never cared for Sail Away...I just think it is incredibly uncreative. It's "Sloop John B" re-arranged...I know, Brian is incredibly guilty of it...but still. As for "Funky Pretty", I welcomed it as a rarity...but it was far from a highlight.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on March 10, 2017, 09:51:10 AM
To get back on topic, i'm crossing fingers for Brian to bring Funky Pretty in the set, now would be the time or never to pull that one off with Al and Blondie joining forces!


They were doing "Funky Pretty" for a while last year, and then it inexplicably was dropped in favor of bringing back "Sail Away." The trend across 2016 was to drop some of the rarities for some reason.

With each new tour though, usually something new springs up. I would only hope the first 2017 setlist isn't identical to the last 2016 setlist.

I know I'm likely in the minority on this board, but I was glad to see my favorite NPP song replace my least favorite Holland song on the setlist.  Frankly, I didn't think the version of Funky Pretty the band did in Baltimore last August was that great. 

I've never cared for Sail Away...I just think it is incredibly uncreative. It's "Sloop John B" re-arranged...I know, Brian is incredibly guilty of it...but still. As for "Funky Pretty", I welcomed it as a rarity...but it was far from a highlight.

If they were going to tackle a CATP/Holland era rarity with Blondie, I'd rather hear Hold On Dear Brother (which was played on the Soundstage show and not since) or Leaving This Town. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 10, 2017, 09:52:53 AM
"Funky Pretty" isn't among my favorites, though it's a cool enough song. The reason I thought it was a good addition to the setlist was simply to see something NEW in it.

"Sail Away" is easily the best song on NPP in my opinion, but it was a bit of a bummer to see it replace "Funky Pretty" not only because it took away a rarer, more interesting deep cut, but because most performances I've seen and heard of "Sail Away" from 2015 and 2016 have been among the most ragged, veering-off-the-rails performances in Brian's show. It reminds me a bit of the title track TWGMTR from the C50 tour. Neither song is anywhere near the most complex in their respective setlists, but for some reason when performed they just sound a bit of a mess for some reason.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 10, 2017, 09:54:58 AM
If they were going to tackle a CATP/Holland era rarity with Blondie, I'd rather hear Hold On Dear Brother (which was played on the Soundstage show and not since) or Leaving This Town. 

I'd like to hear either of those. "Leaving this Town" was rehearsed for the 2016 tour and even appeared on the opening night setlist (listed as an either/or pick between it and "Funky Pretty" as I recall), but it never appeared in an actual show. Similarly, "Lookin' at Tomorrow" was rehearsed for the 2014 Vegas PBS show but not performed.

"Hold on Dear Brother" was great on the PBS show, one of the highlights, but I don't think Blondie could sing it in that key. They'd have to give the song to Matt to sing, or lower the key *quite a bit*.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on March 10, 2017, 09:58:32 AM
I agree tho, it's a shame Blondie doesn't get some of his Holland/So Tough songs to play, and why isn't Ricky Fataar there? he was there on the Soundstage show! that looked so cool :) i guess it's another check to pay that is adding to an already long list of musicians and names, i'd see he would fit for a drummer tho, even for the C50 since he you know, wrote end played on classic Beach Boys records

I love Funky Pretty, such a classic typical Brian type song!

But yeah Sail Away is def some lazy Sloop John B, not sure if Brian is fully responsible for it, since you know how it gets hijacked (Joe Thomas) and especially this album with all the outside people involved, altho we do hear his TWGMTR leftovers that do sound like him (Beautiful Day, etc) i do am a sucker for the chorus tho, really works

I've being so out of loop, it's just ridiculous and embarassing! i need to check on that

That is not very reassuring, i'd be ultra bummed out if they drop Wake The World to bring back Isn't It Time :(

I'm really sad Brians camp is still isn't pushing Love You, that album has a real underestimated cult, not just fanbase, but among celebrities, bands and artists such as Big Star, BMX Bandits, Patti Smith, Explorers Club praised it, etc etc

Brian has never done "Isn't It Time" solo, so I don't think that one is very likely. "Wake the World" seems to be to the liking of both Brian and Al, and it allows Al another lead (though I saw its first performance on tour in 2015 and Brian sang the lead), so I'd say the chances are pretty good of seeing "Wake the World" stay in the setlist.

Ah yeah true, i don't know i was just thinking out top of my head any other song that wouldn't be very welcome to replace Wake The World you feel me?

Good to know for WTW then :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on March 10, 2017, 09:58:55 AM
If they were going to tackle a CATP/Holland era rarity with Blondie, I'd rather hear Hold On Dear Brother (which was played on the Soundstage show and not since) or Leaving This Town. 

I'd like to hear either of those. "Leaving this Town" was rehearsed for the 2016 tour and even appeared on the opening night setlist (listed as an either/or pick between it and "Funky Pretty" as I recall), but it never appeared in an actual show. Similarly, "Lookin' at Tomorrow" was rehearsed for the 2014 Vegas PBS show but not performed.

"Hold on Dear Brother" was great on the PBS show, one of the highlights, but I don't think Blondie could sing it in that key. They'd have to give the song to Matt to sing, or lower the key *quite a bit*.

I wish they'd have included Hold on Dear Brother on the CD companion to the PBS show.  It might be my favorite song from that concert.

I didn't know that Leaving This Town was rehearsed.  I guess Funky Pretty was picked since it's more upbeat.  Frankly, I never understood why people make such a big deal about Funky Pretty.  


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 10, 2017, 10:06:07 AM
I wish they'd have included Hold on Dear Brother on the CD companion to the PBS show.  It might be my favorite song from that concert.

I didn't know that Leaving This Town was rehearsed.  I guess Funky Pretty was picked since it's more upbeat.  Frankly, I never understood why people make such a big deal about Funky Pretty.  

"Funky Pretty" is just different and an interesting mid-period piece, and a cool lead vocal trade-off. And it's one from a pretty small list of Blondie-related BB songs to work from. I'd say the live versions of the song from 1973 and 74 sounded better than the studio version.

While most anything other than SOS from "Holland" is going to be a pretty "deep" cut, I'd say "Leaving this Town" might be slightly *more* obscure than "Funky Pretty", and if they already had an aversion to doing these sorts of songs in the current shows, "Leaving this Town" is slower *and* longer (though the ending could be trimmed if needed). So while I'd love to hear it, I'm not surprised it never made it into a show.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on March 10, 2017, 10:23:55 AM
I wish they'd have included Hold on Dear Brother on the CD companion to the PBS show.  It might be my favorite song from that concert.

I didn't know that Leaving This Town was rehearsed.  I guess Funky Pretty was picked since it's more upbeat.  Frankly, I never understood why people make such a big deal about Funky Pretty.  

"Funky Pretty" is just different and an interesting mid-period piece, and a cool lead vocal trade-off. And it's one from a pretty small list of Blondie-related BB songs to work from. I'd say the live versions of the song from 1973 and 74 sounded better than the studio version.

While most anything other than SOS from "Holland" is going to be a pretty "deep" cut, I'd say "Leaving this Town" might be slightly *more* obscure than "Funky Pretty", and if they already had an aversion to doing these sorts of songs in the current shows, "Leaving this Town" is slower *and* longer (though the ending could be trimmed if needed). So while I'd love to hear it, I'm not surprised it never made it into a show.

I will agree that the In Concert version of Funky Pretty is much better than the studio cut, and the vocal trade offs are cool.  But, I just don't think the song itself is much to write home about.

They could've also trimmed the keyboard solo from Leaving This Town.  After the extended guitar solos on Wild Honey, I couldn't see the band doing more extended soloing (something that's a bit of a rarity at BB related shows). 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 10, 2017, 11:13:20 AM
I got the sense at the show I caught in October that maybe Blondie is getting a bit restless doing the same 2-3 songs. To have toured with the band for probably over 150 shows over the past few years and having only done four songs (and only 2-3 per show) has to be a bit on the boring side.

I thought it was cool that Brian had Blondie sing the bridge on "Surfer Girl" last year for a few shows, but I guess the idea was quickly dropped.

I suppose it's hard *not* to do at least SOS when Blondie is there. But I wouldn't mind "Sail Away" and "Wild Honey" being cleared out for something else. Even having him sing some other BB song he wasn't originally on would be interesting.

I don't expect them to bust out "Carry Me Home" or "It's a New Day" or anything (though they should feel free to do so!), but changing it up in any way is cool.

"Goin' On" and "Santa Ana Winds" would be my pick for the main setlist, and then I dunno, something new for Blondie. Just have him sing a Dennis song or something. "River Song" would be a dark horse pick that's unlikely but would be pretty amazing; I know that band would kick ass on that song.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on March 10, 2017, 11:19:22 AM
I got the sense at the show I caught in October that maybe Blondie is getting a bit restless doing the same 2-3 songs. To have toured with the band for probably over 150 shows over the past few years and having only done four songs (and only 2-3 per show) has to be a bit on the boring side.

I thought it was cool that Brian had Blondie sing the bridge on "Surfer Girl" last year for a few shows, but I guess the idea was quickly dropped.

I suppose it's hard *not* to do at least SOS when Blondie is there. But I wouldn't mind "Sail Away" and "Wild Honey" being cleared out for something else. Even having him sing some other BB song he wasn't originally on would be interesting.

I don't expect them to bust out "Carry Me Home" or "It's a New Day" or anything (though they should feel free to do so!), but changing it up in any way is cool.

"Goin' On" and "Santa Ana Winds" would be my pick for the main setlist, and then I dunno, something new for Blondie. Just have him sing a Dennis song or something. "River Song" would be a dark horse pick that's unlikely but would be pretty amazing; I know that band would kick ass on that song.

When I saw them in Baltimore last August, Blondie came out early in the set, and traded some lines of River Deep Mountain High with Paul Von Mertens.  That was pretty neat. 

Maybe give Blondie a chance with Darlin on shows where Darian isn't there.  I think he'd do a great job with It's About Time. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 10, 2017, 11:21:04 AM
I got the sense at the show I caught in October that maybe Blondie is getting a bit restless doing the same 2-3 songs. To have toured with the band for probably over 150 shows over the past few years and having only done four songs (and only 2-3 per show) has to be a bit on the boring side.

I thought it was cool that Brian had Blondie sing the bridge on "Surfer Girl" last year for a few shows, but I guess the idea was quickly dropped.

I suppose it's hard *not* to do at least SOS when Blondie is there. But I wouldn't mind "Sail Away" and "Wild Honey" being cleared out for something else. Even having him sing some other BB song he wasn't originally on would be interesting.

I don't expect them to bust out "Carry Me Home" or "It's a New Day" or anything (though they should feel free to do so!), but changing it up in any way is cool.

"Goin' On" and "Santa Ana Winds" would be my pick for the main setlist, and then I dunno, something new for Blondie. Just have him sing a Dennis song or something. "River Song" would be a dark horse pick that's unlikely but would be pretty amazing; I know that band would kick ass on that song.

When I saw them in Baltimore last August, Blondie came out early in the set, and traded some lines of River Deep Mountain High with Paul Von Mertens.  That was pretty neat. 

Maybe give Blondie a chance with Darlin on shows where Darian isn't there.  I think he'd do a great job with It's About Time. 

With "Darlin'", they'd probably have to lower the key back to where Brian used to do it when he sang it at his solo shows. (Darian does it in the same key that Carl sang it in concert).

"It's About Time" would be interesting, though with Brian not having a hand in the writing and the setlist not leaning heavily on that sort of material, I wouldn't think it's too likely. I was never super into the studio version, but the live 1973 version of it on the MIC set is a thousand times better.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on March 10, 2017, 11:29:30 AM
I got the sense at the show I caught in October that maybe Blondie is getting a bit restless doing the same 2-3 songs. To have toured with the band for probably over 150 shows over the past few years and having only done four songs (and only 2-3 per show) has to be a bit on the boring side.

I thought it was cool that Brian had Blondie sing the bridge on "Surfer Girl" last year for a few shows, but I guess the idea was quickly dropped.

I suppose it's hard *not* to do at least SOS when Blondie is there. But I wouldn't mind "Sail Away" and "Wild Honey" being cleared out for something else. Even having him sing some other BB song he wasn't originally on would be interesting.

I don't expect them to bust out "Carry Me Home" or "It's a New Day" or anything (though they should feel free to do so!), but changing it up in any way is cool.

"Goin' On" and "Santa Ana Winds" would be my pick for the main setlist, and then I dunno, something new for Blondie. Just have him sing a Dennis song or something. "River Song" would be a dark horse pick that's unlikely but would be pretty amazing; I know that band would kick ass on that song.

When I saw them in Baltimore last August, Blondie came out early in the set, and traded some lines of River Deep Mountain High with Paul Von Mertens.  That was pretty neat. 

Maybe give Blondie a chance with Darlin on shows where Darian isn't there.  I think he'd do a great job with It's About Time. 

With "Darlin'", they'd probably have to lower the key back to where Brian used to do it when he sang it at his solo shows. (Darian does it in the same key that Carl sang it in concert).

"It's About Time" would be interesting, though with Brian not having a hand in the writing and the setlist not leaning heavily on that sort of material, I wouldn't think it's too likely. I was never super into the studio version, but the live 1973 version of it on the MIC set is a thousand times better.

How about The Trader?  Granted, another non Brian song. 

Speaking of setlist changes, I wouldn't mind seeing some of the early car songs get swapped out.  I'd take out LDC and Shut Down, and maybe replace them with Wendy or something else from the early days. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 10, 2017, 11:33:47 AM
The closest anyone in Brian's band has come to "The Trader" is that Al's "Family and Friends" including Matt rehearsed the song in 2000 for possible inclusion, so that one seems like a sliver more likely than some others. I think Matt would sounds great on that one.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on March 10, 2017, 11:40:42 AM
Carls songs are so underrated.... Trader, Long Promised Road, Angel Come Home, some of the best stuff on the albums they're on.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 10, 2017, 11:43:03 AM
I've always thought if Brian (and now with Al) could dig into a few Carl and Dennis songs, that would be great. Because nobody else is doing them at this stage. I can understand it might be difficult for Brian to do a lot of Carl and Dennis stuff.

Al's original mission statement for his "Family & Friends" band back in 1998 was to dig into a lot of those sorts of deep cuts. There were plans to do stuff like "Be Here in the Morning", and I could have totally envisioned them doing some Carl and Dennis stuff (and they did rehearse "The Trader"). But of course Al's band never got off the ground to the point of being able to do that.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on March 10, 2017, 11:46:32 AM
Shame Busy Doin' Nothin' was dropped off


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on March 10, 2017, 11:47:22 AM
I've always thought if Brian (and now with Al) could dig into a few Carl and Dennis songs, that would be great. Because nobody else is doing them at this stage. I can understand it might be difficult for Brian to do a lot of Carl and Dennis stuff.

Al's original mission statement for his "Family & Friends" band back in 1998 was to dig into a lot of those sorts of deep cuts. There were plans to do stuff like "Be Here in the Morning", and I could have totally envisioned them doing some Carl and Dennis stuff (and they did rehearse "The Trader"). But of course Al's band never got off the ground to the point of being able to do that.

That would be cool.  I know he had David Marks do Little Bird on the 2013 tour.  Perhaps give it to Blondie.   And we all know Darian can nail a Carl lead.  


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on March 10, 2017, 11:48:21 AM
Shame Busy Doin' Nothin' was dropped off

I think I read that Brian didn't like to sing that one, so it was replaced by Add Some Music.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on March 10, 2017, 11:53:12 AM
I've always thought if Brian (and now with Al) could dig into a few Carl and Dennis songs, that would be great. Because nobody else is doing them at this stage. I can understand it might be difficult for Brian to do a lot of Carl and Dennis stuff.

Al's original mission statement for his "Family & Friends" band back in 1998 was to dig into a lot of those sorts of deep cuts. There were plans to do stuff like "Be Here in the Morning", and I could have totally envisioned them doing some Carl and Dennis stuff (and they did rehearse "The Trader"). But of course Al's band never got off the ground to the point of being able to do that.

That would be cool.  I know he had David Marks do Little Bird on the 2013 tour.  Perhaps give it to Blondie.   And we all know Darian can nail a Carl lead.  

Yeah i know this is a Brian "solo" tour, but come on, he has been on that since the 80s, so with Al and Blondie with him, if he's not gonna try it not, when? and who? since Mikes band aren't bothering covering Dennis or Carl songs (oh wow Mike, so much for feeling bad not saving your brothers from drugs, our lord our savior! but sure have some spot for SIP and Pisces huh, right onnnn make that ego shine beeybeeeeeee who cares of the BEACH BOYS legacy)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on March 10, 2017, 11:54:59 AM
I've always thought if Brian (and now with Al) could dig into a few Carl and Dennis songs, that would be great. Because nobody else is doing them at this stage. I can understand it might be difficult for Brian to do a lot of Carl and Dennis stuff.

Al's original mission statement for his "Family & Friends" band back in 1998 was to dig into a lot of those sorts of deep cuts. There were plans to do stuff like "Be Here in the Morning", and I could have totally envisioned them doing some Carl and Dennis stuff (and they did rehearse "The Trader"). But of course Al's band never got off the ground to the point of being able to do that.

That would be cool.  I know he had David Marks do Little Bird on the 2013 tour.  Perhaps give it to Blondie.   And we all know Darian can nail a Carl lead.  

Yeah i know this is a Brian "solo" tour, but come on, he has been on that since the 80s, so with Al and Blondie with him, if he's not gonna try it not, when? and who? since Mikes band aren't bothering covering Dennis or Carl songs (oh wow Mike, so much for feeling bad not saving your brothers from drugs, our lord our savior! but sure have some spot for SIP and Pisces huh, right onnnn make that ego shine beeybeeeeeee who cares of the BEACH BOYS legacy)

Brian really only starting touring as a solo artist in 1999. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on March 10, 2017, 02:01:51 PM
Shame Busy Doin' Nothin' was dropped off

I think I read that Brian didn't like to sing that one, so it was replaced by Add Some Music.

I think the reasoning given was it was too "wordy".


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on March 10, 2017, 02:26:08 PM
I've always thought if Brian (and now with Al) could dig into a few Carl and Dennis songs, that would be great. Because nobody else is doing them at this stage. I can understand it might be difficult for Brian to do a lot of Carl and Dennis stuff.

Al's original mission statement for his "Family & Friends" band back in 1998 was to dig into a lot of those sorts of deep cuts. There were plans to do stuff like "Be Here in the Morning", and I could have totally envisioned them doing some Carl and Dennis stuff (and they did rehearse "The Trader"). But of course Al's band never got off the ground to the point of being able to do that.

That would be cool.  I know he had David Marks do Little Bird on the 2013 tour.  Perhaps give it to Blondie.   And we all know Darian can nail a Carl lead.  

Yeah i know this is a Brian "solo" tour, but come on, he has been on that since the 80s, so with Al and Blondie with him, if he's not gonna try it not, when? and who? since Mikes band aren't bothering covering Dennis or Carl songs (oh wow Mike, so much for feeling bad not saving your brothers from drugs, our lord our savior! but sure have some spot for SIP and Pisces huh, right onnnn make that ego shine beeybeeeeeee who cares of the BEACH BOYS legacy)

Brian really only starting touring as a solo artist in 1999. 

Haha well yeah technically, but you know what i mean


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 10, 2017, 08:13:13 PM
Way back before this Pet Sounds monster tour got going, I suggested giving Blondie the lead on "Here Today" and I still think that would be a kick-ass move. That being said, I would absolutely HATE to see "Wild Honey" leave. That was hands down the highlight of the opening set every time I've seen Blondie with Brian.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on March 11, 2017, 02:18:47 PM
What are the odds Brian finally does a Love You tour? i guess probably none, altho i remember reading here that some of his bandmates approved of it


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 11, 2017, 02:41:58 PM
Hopefully never...I know, sorry...shots fired.  :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on March 11, 2017, 02:43:27 PM
It's probably in my top 3 :(

I just wish there was an alternative reality where Good Time found its spot on Sunflower (hell replace it over Tears, i'd be the last to cry over that decision) and therefor My Diane made it on Love You.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on March 13, 2017, 05:27:14 AM
Hopefully never...I know, sorry...shots fired.  :lol

I'm with you there.  That's one tour I probably wouldn't attend. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: rab2591 on March 13, 2017, 05:50:59 AM
Tomorrow I go out and buy a Beach Boys compilation for the hell of it. Tucked inside the CD booklet is a golden ticket. I, along with 5 others, have been selected to go to a private viewing of Brian Wilson performing Love You in LA on April 11 of this year.

You arrive at Brian's house, you get ushered into a living room with stacks of speakers, tables full of cake and steak (all you can eat), and there is Brian in his black leather recliner getting ready for this momentous concert. Everyone sits down and Brian proceeds to tell the story about Love You; he talks about recording the demos, about him writing the lyrics and thinking of all the instrumentation. He sits there munching on a vanilla ice cream cake while telling you how excited the other guys were when they heard the demos. He has the biggest smile on his face. He finally gets up and sits down in front of a moog connected to all 70 speakers in the room. But it's so quiet you could hear a pin drop.

Then, the air in the room hums with deep vibrations from the moog, the bass is so deep you can feel it in your chest, and the drums sound like they're tearing through spacetime itself. And Brian bellows a deep "hey!" to kick off 'Let Us Go On This Way'

As you sit there eating a mouth watering steak while listening to music made by god himself, you realize that from this point on your life will never be the same. You realize that Love You is the greatest collection of songs ever assembled in the history of music. And if this happened to even the most ardent hater of Love You, this experience would make them realize that Love You is a gift from god, the greatest synth-symphony ever created by man.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on March 13, 2017, 05:54:47 AM
Tomorrow I go out and buy a Beach Boys compilation for the hell of it. Tucked inside the CD booklet is a golden ticket. I, along with 5 others, have been selected to go to a private viewing of Brian Wilson performing Love You in LA on April 11 of this year.

You arrive at Brian's house, you get ushered into a living room with stacks of speakers, tables full of cake and steak (all you can eat), and there is Brian in his black leather recliner getting ready for this momentous concert. Everyone sits down and Brian proceeds to tell the story about Love You; he talks about recording the demos, about him writing the lyrics and thinking of all the instrumentation. He sits there munching on a vanilla ice cream cake while telling you how excited the other guys were when they heard the demos. He has the biggest smile on his face. He finally gets up and sits down in front of a moog connected to all 70 speakers in the room. But it's so quiet you could hear a pin drop.

Then, the air in the room hums with deep vibrations from the moog, the bass is so deep you can feel it in your chest, and the drums sound like they're tearing through spacetime itself. And Brian bellows a deep "hey!" to kick off 'Let Us Go On This Way'

As you sit there eating a mouth watering steak while listening to music made by god himself, you realize that from this point on your life will never be the same. You realize that Love You is the greatest collection of songs ever assembled in the history of music. And if this happened to even the most ardent hater of Love You, this experience would make them realize that Love You is a gift from god, the greatest synth-symphony ever created by man.

I'd be thankful for the steak, and the rare opportunity to attend such an intimate performance.  And I think Brian's band might even be able to inject some life into some of the LY tracks, but I'd be patiently waiting to see if Brian does any other deep cuts after the LY portion of the show ends.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: rab2591 on March 13, 2017, 06:04:31 AM
Tomorrow I go out and buy a Beach Boys compilation for the hell of it. Tucked inside the CD booklet is a golden ticket. I, along with 5 others, have been selected to go to a private viewing of Brian Wilson performing Love You in LA on April 11 of this year.

You arrive at Brian's house, you get ushered into a living room with stacks of speakers, tables full of cake and steak (all you can eat), and there is Brian in his black leather recliner getting ready for this momentous concert. Everyone sits down and Brian proceeds to tell the story about Love You; he talks about recording the demos, about him writing the lyrics and thinking of all the instrumentation. He sits there munching on a vanilla ice cream cake while telling you how excited the other guys were when they heard the demos. He has the biggest smile on his face. He finally gets up and sits down in front of a moog connected to all 70 speakers in the room. But it's so quiet you could hear a pin drop.

Then, the air in the room hums with deep vibrations from the moog, the bass is so deep you can feel it in your chest, and the drums sound like they're tearing through spacetime itself. And Brian bellows a deep "hey!" to kick off 'Let Us Go On This Way'

As you sit there eating a mouth watering steak while listening to music made by god himself, you realize that from this point on your life will never be the same. You realize that Love You is the greatest collection of songs ever assembled in the history of music. And if this happened to even the most ardent hater of Love You, this experience would make them realize that Love You is a gift from god, the greatest synth-symphony ever created by man.

I'd be thankful for the steak, and the rare opportunity to attend such an intimate performance.  And I think Brian's band might even be able to inject some life into some of the LY tracks, but I'd be patiently waiting to see if Brian does any other deep cuts after the LY portion of the show ends.

The only scheduled aftershow entertainment is a few drinks during a viewing of Mike's Rock and Roll hall of fame speech.

In all seriousness, it's not everyone's cup of tea, I can totally get that. I really like BB85 and I think most would scoff at such an admission ;D to each their own.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on March 13, 2017, 06:10:38 AM
Tomorrow I go out and buy a Beach Boys compilation for the hell of it. Tucked inside the CD booklet is a golden ticket. I, along with 5 others, have been selected to go to a private viewing of Brian Wilson performing Love You in LA on April 11 of this year.

You arrive at Brian's house, you get ushered into a living room with stacks of speakers, tables full of cake and steak (all you can eat), and there is Brian in his black leather recliner getting ready for this momentous concert. Everyone sits down and Brian proceeds to tell the story about Love You; he talks about recording the demos, about him writing the lyrics and thinking of all the instrumentation. He sits there munching on a vanilla ice cream cake while telling you how excited the other guys were when they heard the demos. He has the biggest smile on his face. He finally gets up and sits down in front of a moog connected to all 70 speakers in the room. But it's so quiet you could hear a pin drop.

Then, the air in the room hums with deep vibrations from the moog, the bass is so deep you can feel it in your chest, and the drums sound like they're tearing through spacetime itself. And Brian bellows a deep "hey!" to kick off 'Let Us Go On This Way'

As you sit there eating a mouth watering steak while listening to music made by god himself, you realize that from this point on your life will never be the same. You realize that Love You is the greatest collection of songs ever assembled in the history of music. And if this happened to even the most ardent hater of Love You, this experience would make them realize that Love You is a gift from god, the greatest synth-symphony ever created by man.

I'd be thankful for the steak, and the rare opportunity to attend such an intimate performance.  And I think Brian's band might even be able to inject some life into some of the LY tracks, but I'd be patiently waiting to see if Brian does any other deep cuts after the LY portion of the show ends.

The only scheduled aftershow entertainment is a few drinks during a viewing of Mike's Rock and Roll hall of fame speech.

In all seriousness, it's not everyone's cup of tea, I can totally get that. I really like BB85 and I think most would scoff at such an admission ;D to each their own.

Actually, BB85 has really grown on me.  Having grown up during that 80s pop era probably helps.  But, I found myself listening to it quite a bit last summer.  In fact, it might be second only to TWGMTR in post Holland spins.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on March 13, 2017, 07:28:12 AM
Count me in for the BW love you concert idea!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on March 13, 2017, 07:29:11 AM
Don't forget drip drop! ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 13, 2017, 09:37:14 AM
Now...I would be TOTALLY down for that!  :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ang Jones on March 13, 2017, 09:45:49 AM
Count me in for the BW love you concert idea!

Me too. In fact count me in for watching Mike's R&R Hall of Fame rant at Brian's place as long as I'm allowed to 'boo' and hiss. Or at least laugh.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on March 13, 2017, 10:26:25 AM
Looks like I'm gonna have to work that day of the houston show.  f***.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 16, 2017, 08:08:07 AM
Anyone here going to the Indio opening night show on Saturday? Curious to see how the setlist comes out.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Rich E P on March 16, 2017, 12:43:29 PM
I am going to the Vancouver and Calgary show early in the tour.  Looking forward to it.  I saw the Hollywood Bowl show this past summer and really enjoyed it.  Matt Jardine on the high parts really does it for me.

I also have 4 great seats for sale at face value for the Vancouver show if anyone wants some great close orchestra seats for a sweet price.  PM me if interested.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Lonely Summer on March 16, 2017, 09:17:33 PM
Tomorrow I go out and buy a Beach Boys compilation for the hell of it. Tucked inside the CD booklet is a golden ticket. I, along with 5 others, have been selected to go to a private viewing of Brian Wilson performing Love You in LA on April 11 of this year.

You arrive at Brian's house, you get ushered into a living room with stacks of speakers, tables full of cake and steak (all you can eat), and there is Brian in his black leather recliner getting ready for this momentous concert. Everyone sits down and Brian proceeds to tell the story about Love You; he talks about recording the demos, about him writing the lyrics and thinking of all the instrumentation. He sits there munching on a vanilla ice cream cake while telling you how excited the other guys were when they heard the demos. He has the biggest smile on his face. He finally gets up and sits down in front of a moog connected to all 70 speakers in the room. But it's so quiet you could hear a pin drop.

Then, the air in the room hums with deep vibrations from the moog, the bass is so deep you can feel it in your chest, and the drums sound like they're tearing through spacetime itself. And Brian bellows a deep "hey!" to kick off 'Let Us Go On This Way'

As you sit there eating a mouth watering steak while listening to music made by god himself, you realize that from this point on your life will never be the same. You realize that Love You is the greatest collection of songs ever assembled in the history of music. And if this happened to even the most ardent hater of Love You, this experience would make them realize that Love You is a gift from god, the greatest synth-symphony ever created by man.

I'd be thankful for the steak, and the rare opportunity to attend such an intimate performance.  And I think Brian's band might even be able to inject some life into some of the LY tracks, but I'd be patiently waiting to see if Brian does any other deep cuts after the LY portion of the show ends.

The only scheduled aftershow entertainment is a few drinks during a viewing of Mike's Rock and Roll hall of fame speech.

In all seriousness, it's not everyone's cup of tea, I can totally get that. I really like BB85 and I think most would scoff at such an admission ;D to each their own.

Actually, BB85 has really grown on me.  Having grown up during that 80s pop era probably helps.  But, I found myself listening to it quite a bit last summer.  In fact, it might be second only to TWGMTR in post Holland spins.
BB85 has some excellent Carl vocals, and the songs are mostly pretty good. LY, on the other hand, has some of the worst vocals the Boys ever committed to wax. And call me what you want, but I just can't get into a guy singing "pat, pat, pat her on her butt".


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: smile-holland on March 17, 2017, 03:54:25 AM
Another addition to the Europe tour:



July 3rd: Carré Theater, Amsterdam, The Netherlands.



Ticket sale started today (and I'm going  :) )


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on March 17, 2017, 05:16:34 AM
Tomorrow I go out and buy a Beach Boys compilation for the hell of it. Tucked inside the CD booklet is a golden ticket. I, along with 5 others, have been selected to go to a private viewing of Brian Wilson performing Love You in LA on April 11 of this year.

You arrive at Brian's house, you get ushered into a living room with stacks of speakers, tables full of cake and steak (all you can eat), and there is Brian in his black leather recliner getting ready for this momentous concert. Everyone sits down and Brian proceeds to tell the story about Love You; he talks about recording the demos, about him writing the lyrics and thinking of all the instrumentation. He sits there munching on a vanilla ice cream cake while telling you how excited the other guys were when they heard the demos. He has the biggest smile on his face. He finally gets up and sits down in front of a moog connected to all 70 speakers in the room. But it's so quiet you could hear a pin drop.

Then, the air in the room hums with deep vibrations from the moog, the bass is so deep you can feel it in your chest, and the drums sound like they're tearing through spacetime itself. And Brian bellows a deep "hey!" to kick off 'Let Us Go On This Way'

As you sit there eating a mouth watering steak while listening to music made by god himself, you realize that from this point on your life will never be the same. You realize that Love You is the greatest collection of songs ever assembled in the history of music. And if this happened to even the most ardent hater of Love You, this experience would make them realize that Love You is a gift from god, the greatest synth-symphony ever created by man.

I'd be thankful for the steak, and the rare opportunity to attend such an intimate performance.  And I think Brian's band might even be able to inject some life into some of the LY tracks, but I'd be patiently waiting to see if Brian does any other deep cuts after the LY portion of the show ends.

The only scheduled aftershow entertainment is a few drinks during a viewing of Mike's Rock and Roll hall of fame speech.

In all seriousness, it's not everyone's cup of tea, I can totally get that. I really like BB85 and I think most would scoff at such an admission ;D to each their own.

Actually, BB85 has really grown on me.  Having grown up during that 80s pop era probably helps.  But, I found myself listening to it quite a bit last summer.  In fact, it might be second only to TWGMTR in post Holland spins.
BB85 has some excellent Carl vocals, and the songs are mostly pretty good. LY, on the other hand, has some of the worst vocals the Boys ever committed to wax. And call me what you want, but I just can't get into a guy singing "pat, pat, pat her on her butt".

I agree on both accounts. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 17, 2017, 06:42:45 AM
Another addition to the Europe tour:



July 3rd: Carré Theater, Amsterdam, The Netherlands.



Ticket sale started today (and I'm going  :) )

Added to the top post!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 17, 2017, 06:50:44 AM
I'd argue the cheesy production on BB '85 is as distracting as anything on "Love You." If BB '85 had *great* production and only mediocre songs, then I'd make a strong argument for why, even if "Love You" is more substantive from artistic point of view, that BB '85 is more immediately accessible. And that may be true in a few song-by-song cases.

But BB '85 has a hand full of good songs, and cheeseball production *almost* across the board. Whereas, "Love You" has stronger songs (though there are clunkers on it as well, e.g. "Mona"), and *weird* but creative production.

Honestly, the main reason I pull out '85 now is for the two Carl "It's Gettin' Late" and "Where I Belong", and in particular the latter. And "Where I Belong" is one of the few songs where the album's production sound works well with the song rather than hinders it.

To be clear, I have favorites on both. I actually think "Passing Friend" has a great catchy chorus and great group vocals (would love to hear isolated vocals on that one).

I think the context of the two albums is most important to keep in mind, and this also brings it back to Brian perhaps performing something from "Love You." The affection that Brian (and Al) have when speaking about "Love You" is not something you hear from *anybody* in the band when it comes to the '85 album. It seems the band members took away more than anything the tedious nature of digital programming and recording. There's one interview where Carl talks about the album like it's a NASA experiment or something. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on March 17, 2017, 07:39:01 AM
I'd argue the cheesy production on BB '85 is as distracting as anything on "Love You." If BB '85 had *great* production and only mediocre songs, then I'd make a strong argument for why, even if "Love You" is more substantive from artistic point of view, that BB '85 is more immediately accessible. And that may be true in a few song-by-song cases.

But BB '85 has a hand full of good songs, and cheeseball production *almost* across the board. Whereas, "Love You" has stronger songs (though there are clunkers on it as well, e.g. "Mona"), and *weird* but creative production.

Honestly, the main reason I pull out '85 now is for the two Carl "It's Gettin' Late" and "Where I Belong", and in particular the latter. And "Where I Belong" is one of the few songs where the album's production sound works well with the song rather than hinders it.

To be clear, I have favorites on both. I actually think "Passing Friend" has a great catchy chorus and great group vocals (would love to hear isolated vocals on that one).

I think the context of the two albums is most important to keep in mind, and this also brings it back to Brian perhaps performing something from "Love You." The affection that Brian (and Al) have when speaking about "Love You" is not something you hear from *anybody* in the band when it comes to the '85 album. It seems the band members took away more than anything the tedious nature of digital programming and recording. There's one interview where Carl talks about the album like it's a NASA experiment or something.  

I think Passing Friend is a nice song that's probably a minute and a half too long.  I'm also a big fan of Getcha Back and California Calling (despite Al's use of the word "rad").


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Shady on March 17, 2017, 10:25:22 AM
Dublin show is sold out.

Should be a great night.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: bummerinparadise on March 18, 2017, 03:21:31 PM
I'll be in Orlando early in the tour, hopefully the setlist ends up here, interested to see if there are any changes.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on March 18, 2017, 03:52:07 PM
I wonder if Brian, Al, or Paul will mention anything about Chuck Berry's passing tonight


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on March 18, 2017, 03:55:03 PM
I wonder if Brian, Al, or Paul will mention anything about Chuck Berry's passing tonight

Might be a stretch, but maybe they'll dust off Johnny B Goode.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 18, 2017, 11:27:56 PM
No setlist yet, but there's one video on YouTube of the Indio show and it looks like Billy is back:

https://youtu.be/ZM-sC_Y322Q


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 19, 2017, 04:31:47 AM
That would be because I saw Darian Friday night with The Zombies playing Odyssey and Oracle in Philly  :hat


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Mr. Wilson on March 19, 2017, 01:16:55 PM
Yea i went to the Indio show.. Very good show overall.. The deep cuts were.. The nite was so young.. Let him run wild.. and get this hold on to your hats>>!!!!!! FEEL FLOWS..With a fine lead vocal from Blondie Chaplin.. The first set mixed with hits and deep cuts was outstanding..  Brought tears to my eyes.. Matt also sang Dont worry baby.... Now i have to tread carefully.. I would pay to see Brian sing the phone book with his excellent band.. And i have tickets for hollywood and santa barbara in MAY.. SO.. I have read on this board that BW talks//sings Pet Sounds LP.. WELL.. Thats what he did.. UMM ... I didnt care for that.. He didnt do it on every song tho..Caroline No he sang great.. Also Alan and Matt did alot of singing also on pet sounds.. I guess ive been lucky to see the 2000 + 2001 + 2007 shows..So its not fair to compare in a way.. also Alan sang California and BW sang his ass off on Love and Mercy. I didnt get to see the 2016 shows so i feel lucky.. last time i saw BW was 2015 on his birthday at greek theatre.. Lots of merchandise for sale $$$..I bought the NEW tshirt that wasnt sold last year..  Gary Griffin and Billy Hinsche played keyboards...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on March 19, 2017, 01:36:57 PM
Wow, that sounds amazing.  Hope they're still doing those songs when I see them in Jersey next month.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on March 19, 2017, 02:19:32 PM
Gah...I need to get off for the houston show!maybe if my medical leave is approved by then I'll be good to go, if not I gotta switch
 I'm off the day before and the day after.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on March 19, 2017, 02:54:27 PM
The deep cuts were.. The nite was so young..

Woah. No way.

That would be because I saw Darian Friday night with The Zombies playing Odyssey and Oracle in Philly  :hat

I was there, too. Weren't they phenomenal?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Emdeeh on March 19, 2017, 03:04:06 PM
"Feel Flows" -- WOW!



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: bummerinparadise on March 19, 2017, 03:14:17 PM
I'm glad they changed up the deep tracks for this part of the tour, hopefully Feel Flows wasn't just a one time thing and it will be there for the rest of the tour.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on March 19, 2017, 03:21:44 PM
Feel Flows has me considering buying a ticket


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Scaroline No on March 19, 2017, 03:34:13 PM
I'm glad they changed up the deep tracks for this part of the tour, hopefully Feel Flows wasn't just a one time thing and it will be there for the rest of the tour.
You said it. Got myself a third row seat at the Winnipeg show on Easter weekend... the countdown is on!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Mr. Wilson on March 19, 2017, 04:59:06 PM
Well i doubt it was an one off thing for FEEL FLOWS.. It was very well rehearsed and Blondie played 2 short guitar solo"s .. one in middle and one at the end.. Blondie was into the song and BW announced they were playing this song for CW.. Background vocals were AWESOME.. Blondie was also onstage for all of the encore.. A fine show.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on March 19, 2017, 05:02:27 PM
Hell yes! :bw


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on March 19, 2017, 06:57:35 PM


OMG!! Does anyone have this captured?? PLEASE SHARE with us.  :o


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: rab2591 on March 20, 2017, 05:10:13 AM
Feel Flows by Blondie? wait guyz dont bother it probably suks:

"I cannot even begin to imagine how unspeakably awful that must have been..."

I love this fandom :lol THE Blondie Chaplin takes a shot at the classic 'Feel Flows' and that's apparently fair to criticize without actually listening to it, but commenting on Mike using the legendary Beach Boys to play a fuckin rodeo is off limits.

☑️Criticism for Brian's band doing something actually cool and different...
❌Criticism for Mike playing in a literal ring of bullshit...

Gotcha.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on March 20, 2017, 05:12:59 AM
Who wrote that quote????


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: rab2591 on March 20, 2017, 05:33:21 AM
Who wrote that quote????

A self proclaimed historian and fact checker lol.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 20, 2017, 06:28:59 AM
Awesome to see some setlist changes/additions. I also wonder if, at later shows, that first set might be a little longer. Usually the first set goes 15-16 songs instead of 12. But very cool that even with a slightly shorter first set, they added two songs rarely performed by Brian's band ("Let Him Run Wild" and "The Night Was So Young") and one never done before ("Feel Flows").

Hopefully they'll keep these in the setlist. But, just as a caveat to those who might buy a ticket to a future show on the tour based on these songs, last year's setlist trend was to sometimes drop one of Blondie's three songs at shorter shows, and the "rarities" like "Funky Pretty" and "Honkin' Down the Highway" did drop off relatively soon into the tour. So it's hard to know if these songs will survive.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 20, 2017, 06:36:44 AM
Who wrote that quote????

A self proclaimed historian and fact checker lol.

The only good thing that comes from that lamentable, uninformed (he hasn't even heard it!) comment about "Feel Flows" on another board is that at least the bias and the lengths apparently gone to in order to bash his "team's" perceived rival is now painfully obvious. How often has that same guy criticizing Blondie gone after Bruce for croaking his way through his one song per month? Or gone after Mike for shredding his voice because he refuses to *not* tour for even six months?

But Jeff Foskett sang "Surf's Up" in London next to the guy that dumped Brian and Al, and that's just mind-blowingly amazing!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: rab2591 on March 20, 2017, 07:01:52 AM
Who wrote that quote????

A self proclaimed historian and fact checker lol.

The only good thing that comes from that lamentable, uninformed (he hasn't even heard it!) comment about "Feel Flows" on another board is that at least the bias and the lengths apparently gone to in order to bash his "team's" perceived rival is now painfully obvious.

My thoughts exactly.

If a couple of these deep cuts are to become the norm for future shows I will definitely make it to an upcoming concert if it fits in my schedule. I'd be more than happy to hear any of those songs no matter who sung them.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on March 20, 2017, 09:04:54 AM
The Night Was So Young! Love it!   8)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: MikestheGreatest!! on March 20, 2017, 09:37:19 AM
This "final performance" Pet Sounds Tour is starting to resemble the Who's numerous "farewell" tours!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on March 21, 2017, 08:40:25 PM
HOLY MOLY
HERE I AM WITH MY TICKET I JUST RECIEVED FOR SEATLLE
AND I WAS CROSSING FINGERS ON THE THIS THREAD FOR THE DEEP CUTS TO STAY OR CHANGED FOR OTHER COOL STUFF
BRINGING UP LOVE YOU

AND NOW WHAT?? BRIAN BRINGS THE NIGHT WAS SO YOUNG???
AND FEEL FLOWS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Mr. Wilson on March 22, 2017, 02:21:43 PM
The Indio show   was 110 minutes with no break by the way.. Also i dont consider Little Honda  a deep cut but they played that also.. BW nailed that one...  Back in the day i remember people of all ages went to BB BW shows.. little kids to senor citizens.. ..WELL.. At least in Indio which is near Palm Springs there was nothing but old people.. Now dont jump down my throat cause im old also.. BUT,,  I give off energy to the band.. (2nd row} everyone around me sat on their hands no energy at all.. When i yelled we love you Brian old fart next to me and gave me a dirty look..  Im surprised they didnt cut the concert short.. Audience was asleep at the wheel.. Crowd was about 2500 - 3000..


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on March 22, 2017, 03:02:38 PM
I always thought Little Honda sounded punk somehow


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on March 22, 2017, 04:01:18 PM
Still no videos has surfaced of all the new gems Brian has brought to the setlist?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on March 22, 2017, 04:03:25 PM
Still no videos has surfaced of all the new gems Brian has brought to the setlist?

On the Beach Boys Friends facebook page there's a video of Feel Flows. 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/beachboysfriends/


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on March 22, 2017, 04:13:10 PM
Still no videos has surfaced of all the new gems Brian has brought to the setlist?

On the Beach Boys Friends facebook page there's a video of Feel Flows. 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/beachboysfriends/

How come i don't have access to this?  :'(


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on March 22, 2017, 04:18:40 PM
Still no videos has surfaced of all the new gems Brian has brought to the setlist?

On the Beach Boys Friends facebook page there's a video of Feel Flows. 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/beachboysfriends/

How come i don't have access to this?  :'(

Looks like it's a private group.  I don't think you can share videos from facebook, otherwise I'd post it here.  Sorry.  :-\


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: rab2591 on March 22, 2017, 06:18:00 PM
This "final performance" Pet Sounds Tour is starting to resemble the Who's numerous "farewell" tours!

Yeah but only those from the U.K. seem to be childishly hurt by this ongoing tour. The rest of us living in adult reality are grateful that Brian is still truckin with this tour!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on March 22, 2017, 06:29:35 PM
This "final performance" Pet Sounds Tour is starting to resemble the Who's numerous "farewell" tours!

Yeah but only those from the U.K. seem to be childishly hurt by this ongoing tour. The rest of us living in adult reality are grateful that Brian is still truckin with this tour!

 :woot :woot :woot       mtg-board complainant ::)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 22, 2017, 07:26:39 PM
At both shows I Saw last year, it was a very even spread of ages however both crowds were very bland. I'm noticing this more and more at all concerts now. Everyone is too wrapped up in filming the whole f-ing thing and not enjoying it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 23, 2017, 06:55:07 AM
Still no videos has surfaced of all the new gems Brian has brought to the setlist?

On the Beach Boys Friends facebook page there's a video of Feel Flows. 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/beachboysfriends/

How come i don't have access to this?  :'(

Looks like it's a private group.  I don't think you can share videos from facebook, otherwise I'd post it here.  Sorry.  :-\

Can you post the URL address for the video? Even if it's not viewable unless one is a member, there may be ways to take the URL and download the video using one of the various online video downloaders.

Even easier would be if the person who posted it on Facebook could just post it on YouTube as well.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on March 23, 2017, 08:49:06 AM
Still no videos has surfaced of all the new gems Brian has brought to the setlist?

On the Beach Boys Friends facebook page there's a video of Feel Flows.  

https://www.facebook.com/groups/beachboysfriends/

How come i don't have access to this?  :'(

Looks like it's a private group.  I don't think you can share videos from facebook, otherwise I'd post it here.  Sorry.  :-\

Can you post the URL address for the video? Even if it's not viewable unless one is a member, there may be ways to take the URL and download the video using one of the various online video downloaders.

Even easier would be if the person who posted it on Facebook could just post it on YouTube as well.

Here is the link: https://www.facebook.com/shaun.philipps/videos/10158510561640094/

I also asked him to upload it to YouTube.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: marcella27 on March 23, 2017, 09:42:43 AM
At both shows I Saw last year, it was a very even spread of ages however both crowds were very bland. I'm noticing this more and more at all concerts now. Everyone is too wrapped up in filming the whole f-ing thing and not enjoying it.

I saw quite a few shows on the 2016 leg and some audiences were really into it, especially Montreal and Toronto.  There was also a good mix of young and older people.  At the Montreal show the announcer actually asked people not to film or photograph the concert and to just enjoy it as an experience "not through the lens of an I-pad" or something like that.  That got a huge cheer. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 23, 2017, 10:15:56 AM


Here is the link: https://www.facebook.com/shaun.philipps/videos/10158510561640094/

I also asked him to upload it to YouTube.

Thanks. I guess my instinct was incorrect, and the downloader websites don't allow downloading of private videos. Makes sense. So hopefully they'll put it up on YouTube.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 23, 2017, 10:18:19 AM
At both shows I Saw last year, it was a very even spread of ages however both crowds were very bland. I'm noticing this more and more at all concerts now. Everyone is too wrapped up in filming the whole f-ing thing and not enjoying it.

I saw quite a few shows on the 2016 leg and some audiences were really into it, especially Montreal and Toronto.  There was also a good mix of young and older people.  At the Montreal show the announcer actually asked people not to film or photograph the concert and to just enjoy it as an experience "not through the lens of an I-pad" or something like that.  That got a huge cheer. 

The thing I find hilarious is when you watch a video or TV broadcast of a show, and people in *that* audience are trying to shoot the thing on their smartphone. Seriously, you're at one of the rare instances where you're surrounded by a professional video crew, and the whole thing will be aired and/or released. Why do you need a crummy smartphone video of *that* show?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: marcella27 on March 23, 2017, 10:31:45 AM


Here is the link: https://www.facebook.com/shaun.philipps/videos/10158510561640094/

I also asked him to upload it to YouTube.

Thanks. I guess my instinct was incorrect, and the downloader websites don't allow downloading of private videos. Makes sense. So hopefully they'll put it up on YouTube.

I very badly need to see this. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: CenturyDeprived on March 23, 2017, 10:48:14 AM
At both shows I Saw last year, it was a very even spread of ages however both crowds were very bland. I'm noticing this more and more at all concerts now. Everyone is too wrapped up in filming the whole f-ing thing and not enjoying it.

I saw quite a few shows on the 2016 leg and some audiences were really into it, especially Montreal and Toronto.  There was also a good mix of young and older people.  At the Montreal show the announcer actually asked people not to film or photograph the concert and to just enjoy it as an experience "not through the lens of an I-pad" or something like that.  That got a huge cheer.  

The thing I find hilarious is when you watch a video or TV broadcast of a show, and people in *that* audience are trying to shoot the thing on their smartphone. Seriously, you're at one of the rare instances where you're surrounded by a professional video crew, and the whole thing will be aired and/or released. Why do you need a crummy smartphone video of *that* show?

Ordinarily I'd agree with you, but being as one never knows when/if that professionally-filmed footage will ever make it to "air", as well as if the entirety of the pro-shot show will ever be shown (as opposed to just portions), I can get why people would still film it. Like for example: we know the Hollywood Bowl C50 show was professionally filmed (I think I've read that on this board)... yet it's never been released, and especially with the bitterness post-reunion, likely will never be released in its entirety, the whole show start-to-finish. I'd be shocked if it was. So the people who filmed that show on iPhones may wind up having the only released footage of it.

Same deal with that late 1983 show that was one of Denny's last (which a pro-shot clip is seen of him singing You Are So Beautiful on a released BB doc, I forget which one)... the whole show is available as an audience boot, but we'll surely never see that whole show released, even though there may have been professional cameras everywhere to document it at the time. Thank goodness for tapers! It's always good for historical reasons to have as many different recordings/angles as possible.

That said, I assume most people these days who film shows with iPhones are not geeky BB archivists, but just ordinary fans who want their own personal memory of the show. I used to tape and film lots of shows (including "stealth" filming in the pre-iPhone days - that was ANYTHING but fun to do), and while I'm glad to have a document of the old shows I was at, it's definitely something where I can say that the distraction of my own taping (as opposed to just sitting back and enjoying the show) DID cut into my enjoyment of the shows I attended at a certain point.

Plus, I also get how it can be annoying as an audience member who is NOT taping themselves, to see a sea of iPhone screens in front of them. Totally get that. Maybe Google Glass is the answer to this (even though that will introduce a host of other privacy issues).


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 23, 2017, 12:06:44 PM
Definitely, for sure. I wasn't talking so much live shows that just happen to have a video crew present (where indeed who knows if that footage will be aired/released), but rather things that go out *live* on the air or are being captured for a very specific purpose to be aired (e.g. a Disney Christmas show or something), with little likelihood that what they're seeing won't be aired.

The deal with smartphones at shows is that, unlike the olden days when people snuck camcorders in and shot entire shows, a lot of people (understandably) only get individual songs, or parts of songs. So it's ironic that the proliferation of smartphones that can shoot video has not led to a huge increase in *full-length*, complete audience-shot videos circulating.

And yes, a lot of it, especially for "casual" fans, is about themselves more than who they're seeing. I can't even count how many events I've looked up on Instagram where 99% of the pictures are selfies at the event rather than actual pictures of the even itself.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on March 23, 2017, 07:40:12 PM
Behold:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSMHtoBPIpM&feature=youtu.be


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 23, 2017, 08:42:21 PM
That sounds fu**ing awesome. The band sounds amazing, and Blondie's lead totally works.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: CenturyDeprived on March 23, 2017, 08:55:42 PM
That sounds fu**ing awesome. The band sounds amazing, and Blondie's lead totally works.

WOW. Totally agreed - this is rad - way, way rad.  I think any naysayers will backtrack once they see how good this is.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on March 23, 2017, 09:00:21 PM
I was really impressed with Blondie's singing.  He nailed it. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: baseball95 on March 23, 2017, 09:36:04 PM
Wow just wow! What a tribute to Carl I'm sure if he would love such a performance.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 23, 2017, 10:48:26 PM
Nice. Hope for a complete start to finish close up version sometime.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on March 24, 2017, 03:17:53 AM
So who sang on The Night Was So Young? Matt?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on March 24, 2017, 05:15:16 AM
Behold:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSMHtoBPIpM&feature=youtu.be

That is great. Has Brian ever performed this in concert solo?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 24, 2017, 06:00:49 AM
Behold:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSMHtoBPIpM&feature=youtu.be

That is great. Has Brian ever performed this in concert solo?

Definitely not. As occasionally discussed, Brian rarely does BB songs he didn't have a hand in writing, and even more rarely does Dennis or Carl songs written by those guys outside of Brian. He has occasionally done "Forever", and David Marks did "Little Bird" back in 2013, and that's about it.

The "Beach Boys" proper last did "Feel Flows" in 1977 as I recall, and setlist.fm shows a couple shows in 2007 where Mike's band did the song, apparently with Christian Love on lead. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 24, 2017, 06:03:32 AM
Brian's band has often been touted (and rightly so) as being so pin-point accurate on the 60s material (PS, Smile, etc.), but "Feel Flows" and stuff like their turn on "Hold on Dear Brother" a few years ago shows how *amazing* they sound doing 70s material.

Let's hope "Feel Flows" stays in the setlist, and also that they might try "Leaving This Down" again (rehearsed last year but never performed), and maybe even something like "The Trader" and Al's "Lookin' at Tomorrow" (rehearsed for PBS in 2014 but not performed).


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: rab2591 on March 24, 2017, 06:19:34 AM
Behold:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSMHtoBPIpM&feature=youtu.be

Damn that sounds great!! I love the reverb/echo effect on his voice, really works well with trying to keep the atmospheric sound of the album version. Thanks for linking this!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on March 24, 2017, 07:22:22 AM
Amazing, can't check the fact that BW band is rocking in 2017!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on March 24, 2017, 07:37:22 AM


Thanks CK for posting!! Blondie handled FF(my absolute fave CW song) with ease. Now I'm trying to remember if I saw Carl do that on his solo gig or with the BBs or both.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on March 24, 2017, 08:09:23 AM
(OSD woots in person) :bw


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: the captain on March 24, 2017, 08:44:09 AM
I love Blondie as the vocalist on this tune (as well as the fact that they're doing it at all). I'd also love to see a couple others from the era introduced, whether Blondie vocals (Leaving This Town, Hold On Dear Brother), Al vocals (Lookin At Tomorrow) or something else entirely (All This is That).

I recognize that it's awfully hard to find room in a setlist already chock-full of hits that very few people want to see omitted--especially when you're already performing one full album--but I'd love to see such a thing.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on March 24, 2017, 08:59:22 AM
Room could be made by dropping some of the songs from the encore set that has been the same for ages. Or simply switching up the Blondie set songs into a Surf's up/ CATP set with Al/BW.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: barf0wnz on March 24, 2017, 09:48:17 AM
Hey all

I lurk daily but never post .

I was the guy who filmed Feel flows .   I'm still mind blown that this was played and I recorded right away .   My phone ran out of memory and couldn't film the whole thing

Enjoy the clip !


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Shady on March 24, 2017, 09:54:25 AM
Chills watching the feel flows video.

Truly the best band of all time.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on March 24, 2017, 10:17:55 AM
Room could be made by dropping some of the songs from the encore set that has been the same for ages. Or simply switching up the Blondie set songs into a Surf's up/ CATP set with Al/BW.

Y-yyyoooouuuu m-mmeeaannn d-dropp Barbara(effin') Ann????  :o :o :o


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: marcella27 on March 24, 2017, 12:01:00 PM
Hey all

I lurk daily but never post .

I was the guy who filmed Feel flows .   I'm still mind blown that this was played and I recorded right away .   My phone ran out of memory and couldn't film the whole thing

Enjoy the clip !

Thank you SO MUCH for filming this.  I dearly hope this is on the setlist when I see them.  If not I'm grateful to you for capturing and posting. 

This is SO.  GOOD.  This is exactly what I was hoping they would do with Blondie.  Long may it continue. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Emdeeh on March 24, 2017, 03:14:29 PM
Thank you SO much for posting "Feel Flows"! What I heard sounded great -- hoping to find a full-length version next.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on March 24, 2017, 05:23:53 PM
Hey all

I lurk daily but never post .

I was the guy who filmed Feel flows .   I'm still mind blown that this was played and I recorded right away .   My phone ran out of memory and couldn't film the whole thing

Enjoy the clip !
Thanks!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: CenturyDeprived on March 24, 2017, 05:59:34 PM
Hey all

I lurk daily but never post .

I was the guy who filmed Feel flows .   I'm still mind blown that this was played and I recorded right away .   My phone ran out of memory and couldn't film the whole thing

Enjoy the clip !
Thanks!

Seconded!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: bummerinparadise on March 27, 2017, 09:09:06 PM
Was at the show in Orlando. Brian was singing great, and hearing Feel Flows live was amazing. I also did the meet and greet, and they're no longer signing personal items, but I think Blondie was signing things for people after the sound check. Overall a great show.

SETLIST:
California Girls
Dance, Dance, Dance
I Get Around
Little Honda
Do It Again
Surfer Girl
Don't Worry Baby
Let Him Run Wild
The Night Was So Young
California Saga
Feel Flows
Wild Honey
Sail On Sailor
Intermission, then Pet Sounds
Good Vibrations
Help Me Rhonda
Barbara Ann
Surfin' USA
Fun Fun Fun
Love And Mercy


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: beatle608 on March 27, 2017, 09:23:43 PM
Were they very strict about no signing? Almost unbelievable that you can't even get one thing signed for $500...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on March 28, 2017, 01:18:20 AM
still no night was so young videos? :(


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 28, 2017, 06:07:15 AM
Good to see some of the new/rare cuts survive from the first show.

It looks like the shows are a little shorter now, at least in terms of number of songs. Though that may be in part due to "Feel Flows" being on the longer side.

Kind of a bummer, though, that Al is relegated pretty much to one song in the first set. Not that his turn on the car songs was ever my first pick for tracks for Al to do, but Al seems to be playing vocally an even more minimal part in the shows. His car songs are gone, his vocal turn on "Sail Away" is gone, and instead of getting, say *two* songs in the pre-Blondie part of the set (e.g. "Then I Kissed Her" and "Cotton Fields"), he just gets the one. So he's kinda just getting Cal Saga, Rhonda, and then his parts on the PS songs. Assuming he hasn't been given any leads that Brian previously sang.

At this stage, Matt and Blondie are arguably getting more lead vocal turns than Al. I'd almost assume Al has a cold or something and they're cutting his songs, but the two setlists we've seen so far are identical and nine days apart.

The new additions to the setlist are very cool, but I'm perplexed why Al is being given fewer and fewer leads.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: GhostyTMRS on March 28, 2017, 06:21:37 AM
Good to see some of the new/rare cuts survive from the first show.

It looks like the shows are a little shorter now, at least in terms of number of songs. Though that may be in part due to "Feel Flows" being on the longer side.

Kind of a bummer, though, that Al is relegated pretty much to one song in the first set. Not that his turn on the car songs was ever my first pick for tracks for Al to do, but Al seems to be playing vocally an even more minimal part in the shows. His car songs are gone, his vocal turn on "Sail Away" is gone, and instead of getting, say *two* songs in the pre-Blondie part of the set (e.g. "Then I Kissed Her" and "Cotton Fields"), he just gets the one. So he's kinda just getting Cal Saga, Rhonda, and then his parts on the PS songs. Assuming he hasn't been given any leads that Brian previously sang.

At this stage, Matt and Blondie are arguably getting more lead vocal turns than Al. I'd almost assume Al has a cold or something and they're cutting his songs, but the two setlists we've seen so far are identical and nine days apart.

The new additions to the setlist are very cool, but I'm perplexed why Al is being given fewer and fewer leads.

Al's minimal participation has long been vexing.

I have to wonder though, has Al's profile risen considerably since he's been touring with Brian that he could possibly strike out on his own again? Al's first "family and friends" tours were coming off the back of the Beach Boys, but solo Brian appeals to a different kind of crowd that might have passed him over years ago.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 28, 2017, 06:48:22 AM
Good to see some of the new/rare cuts survive from the first show.

It looks like the shows are a little shorter now, at least in terms of number of songs. Though that may be in part due to "Feel Flows" being on the longer side.

Kind of a bummer, though, that Al is relegated pretty much to one song in the first set. Not that his turn on the car songs was ever my first pick for tracks for Al to do, but Al seems to be playing vocally an even more minimal part in the shows. His car songs are gone, his vocal turn on "Sail Away" is gone, and instead of getting, say *two* songs in the pre-Blondie part of the set (e.g. "Then I Kissed Her" and "Cotton Fields"), he just gets the one. So he's kinda just getting Cal Saga, Rhonda, and then his parts on the PS songs. Assuming he hasn't been given any leads that Brian previously sang.

At this stage, Matt and Blondie are arguably getting more lead vocal turns than Al. I'd almost assume Al has a cold or something and they're cutting his songs, but the two setlists we've seen so far are identical and nine days apart.

The new additions to the setlist are very cool, but I'm perplexed why Al is being given fewer and fewer leads.

Al's minimal participation has long been vexing.

I have to wonder though, has Al's profile risen considerably since he's been touring with Brian that he could possibly strike out on his own again? Al's first "family and friends" tours were coming off the back of the Beach Boys, but solo Brian appeals to a different kind of crowd that might have passed him over years ago.

I just don't think Al doing a lot of solo stuff is particularly viable. I mean, it is viable in theory. I've wished for years Al would do a nice club tour doing rare cuts and all of that. Seems very doable. But he doesn't seem interested in pursuing that, and before C50 and teaming back up with Brian, he had mostly just been booking the random gigs here and there, often teamed up with Dean Torrence and/or David Marks where he was doing mostly the "meat and potatoes" numbers. Al managed a few more unique gigs on his own, like his 2012 "Postcards" gig at the Roxy and his 2014 Rubin Museum NYC gig. I was in particular hoping that NYC gig in 2014 might be a good model for Al doing some select gigs like that here and there, even in between Brian tours.

I like Al's role in Brian's band. It's a stark contrast to how Mike's apparent feelings for Brian and living in Brian's shadow/legacy have evolved. Mike has become more inflammatory and adversarial, whereas Al got past the ego issue and happily supports Brian, taking a back seat both figuratively and literally. I love how Al and Brian are a team in the show, and it isn't like that 2005 Hawthorne landmark gig where they were both there but couldn't even share a stage, with Al awkwardly singing at a podium to a backing track plugging his children's book, etc.

I also get that it's a Brian show and I think they have to be sensitive to how critics might question if literally like 50 or 75% of a Brian show features other guys singing leads. But this is also essentially a "Brian Wilson Band" show, and essentially Brian's alternative "Beach Boys" in all but name, and I'm glad people have embraced Matt and Blondie and Al singing some leads.

So I wouldn't want to see Al break off from Brian's band. C50 was so awful for the band's public relationship, and Al and Brian sticking together is about the only warm and fuzzy left from all of that acrimony.

But I've certainly been advocating for several years now that an EASY and BRILLIANT solution to adding more songs, and adding more Blondie/Al content without overtaxing Brian would be to just stick a little mini set in the middle of the show where Brian can relax off stage.

In any event, it's just a bummer to see Al relegated to a couple of leads, and the same old leads to boot. I dunno, maybe Al is helping to make more room for Matt to be featured more prominently, and that isn't a bad thing of course.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: the captain on March 28, 2017, 07:33:26 AM
In the event that Brian does stop touring, or tour less, I'd love to see this band transition to being Al's band (or Al's and Blondie's band), a kind of new "Friends and Family" band. I don't know how financially viable that would be--it's an awfully big band to support, and without the big guy's name on there, that would lose appeal for some people--but they're so good...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: bummerinparadise on March 28, 2017, 08:42:30 AM
Were they very strict about no signing? Almost unbelievable that you can't even get one thing signed for $500...
At least at the show I was at, there was no way you would be able to get anything signed via the meet and greet. The woman who manages the whole VIP thing is right in front of you taking pictures, and she said multiple times there won't be any signing. I wish they stuck to the two personal items thing that they used the last leg of the tour.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: bummerinparadise on March 28, 2017, 09:04:18 AM
I was ready to record The Night Was So Young, but as soon as I started an usher made me turn my camera off.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on March 28, 2017, 09:49:39 AM
I was ready to record The Night Was So Young, but as soon as I started an usher made me turn my camera off.

I'll give it a try tomorrow night, provided the song is performed of course, and the ushers aren't too vigilant.
I don't  feel bad doing it - Brian's people, and Al,  show the fans' recordings on their respective FB pages so they are obviously cool with it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on March 28, 2017, 12:51:12 PM
I was ready to record The Night Was So Young, but as soon as I started an usher made me turn my camera off.

I'll give it a try tomorrow night, provided the song is performed of course, and the ushers aren't too vigilant.
I don't  feel bad doing it - Brian's people, and Al,  show the fans' recordings on their respective FB pages so they are obviously cool with it.

Let's make this happen! in NOLA BB fan we trust !!!!

Thanks for trying bummerinparadise, who sang the lead on it???


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: bummerinparadise on March 28, 2017, 01:50:54 PM
I was ready to record The Night Was So Young, but as soon as I started an usher made me turn my camera off.

I'll give it a try tomorrow night, provided the song is performed of course, and the ushers aren't too vigilant.
I don't  feel bad doing it - Brian's people, and Al,  show the fans' recordings on their respective FB pages so they are obviously cool with it.

Let's make this happen! in NOLA BB fan we trust !!!!

Thanks for trying bummerinparadise, who sang the lead on it???

Brian sang the lead for the show I was at.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on March 28, 2017, 02:14:50 PM
I was ready to record The Night Was So Young, but as soon as I started an usher made me turn my camera off.

I'll give it a try tomorrow night, provided the song is performed of course, and the ushers aren't too vigilant.
I don't  feel bad doing it - Brian's people, and Al,  show the fans' recordings on their respective FB pages so they are obviously cool with it.

Let's make this happen! in NOLA BB fan we trust !!!!

Thanks for trying bummerinparadise, who sang the lead on it???

Brian sang the lead for the show I was at.

Woah !!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: tpesky on March 28, 2017, 06:22:15 PM
I agree about the lack of Al leads. Last year he had leads on the car songs and Wake the World in additional to Cal Saga/Cottonfields in the first set.  Maybe Al is choosing not to sing more leads.
For me personally, the 3 songs especially the extended Wild Honey is too much Blondie.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: GhostyTMRS on March 28, 2017, 07:38:21 PM
In the event that Brian does stop touring, or tour less, I'd love to see this band transition to being Al's band (or Al's and Blondie's band), a kind of new "Friends and Family" band. I don't know how financially viable that would be--it's an awfully big band to support, and without the big guy's name on there, that would lose appeal for some people--but they're so good...

In the event that Brian retires within the next year or two, I'd like to think that Al could continue (at least for a few years) with Brian's band as "The Brian Wilson Band featuring Al Jardine". Of course, the venues would be smaller and the income wouldn't be what it is with Brian front and center, but I think Al would find a much more receptive audience these days compared to his first go-round of touring on his own.

Of course, and to bounce off what Hey Jude mentioned, that's assuming he would even want to shoulder the responsibility of such a thing at this point and that doesn't appear to be the case. 

...and prior to teaming up with Brian these past few years, I had always wished Al could join up with Ringo's All-Starr Band because he fits the original concept of that band: an artist/member of a 60's band with some recognizable hits he could perform with the All-Starrs (usually about three per show)...but alas it never happened.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 28, 2017, 08:26:36 PM
Wow- great minds think alike! I have ALWAYS said that Al Jardine belonged in at least one rotation of the all-starr band. What three songs would you think he could do? I would think "Wouldn't it Be Nice" "California Saga" and "Help Me Rhonda"


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on March 28, 2017, 11:18:49 PM
If Al were continue on with the band after Brian were to retire,  I'd go see him


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 29, 2017, 06:32:35 AM
If Al did his own shows, either before or after Brian retiring, and was backed by Brian's band (or some smaller combination thereof), that would of course be beyond amazing. I don't see that as particularly realistic, but then again back in the mid 2000s I never thought we'd see Al appearing on stage at a Brian show, and certainly didn't anticipate he's be with Brian more or less full-time.

As for Al in Ringo's All-Starr Band, I have thought about that over the years as well, especially since Al being bounced from the BB touring band in 1998. Al certainly has *more* than enough hits, so on that count he qualifies. But All-Starr bands need the members to pull their weight on the musicianship end as well. Now, let me make it very clear that Al is very much a good guitar player; I've seen him do stuff I never thought he could do in concert. He has the actual base ability. But over the years he hasn't tended to do much at typical BB shows as far as guitar work, especially past the early-mid 70s. You'll often even see him in concert in more recent years simply stop playing and just sing in the middle of songs (which is fine when he does that; it's his amazingly intact voice that is his instrument more than anything). Again, let me reiterate he is a strong guitarist, stronger than probably most fans think he is. I've seen him do David/Carl-style leads in concert; he actually can play that stuff.

But what I *don't* picture Al doing is prominently playing rhythm guitar on 25 songs from other artists he has never played before, and doing so prominently in the mix. He *could* do it, but I don't know if what Al would want to do is do a tour where he plays "Black Magic Woman" and "Bang the Drum" and "Africa" where you have to bust your ass on guitar every night, and then just sing "Rhonda" and one or two others.

Conversely, a typical All-Starr Band might have trouble doing lush BB harmonies. So in that sense, Al maybe wouldn't be the best fit.

However, I think Al *could* work if a strong lead guitarist were in place. Back in 1997/98, Ringo had to awkwardly fire Dave Mason at the eleventh hour and Peter Frampton did the entire tour as *sole* guitarist, probably the most impressive lead guitar performance of any Ringo tour, playing not only his own stuff and Ringo's tunes, but flying solo recreating the work on Eric Clapton on Jack Bruce's Cream songs, Robin Trower on Gary Brooker's Procol Harum stuff, not to mention Bad Company songs. In any event, if Al were in a band where he didn't have to a ton of musical heavy lifting, that could work.

Ringo's All-Starr Band is interesting, because for the last five or however many years, he has essentially given up the whole original crux of the band, which was a *rotating* group of members, and has toured with the same stale band. I would imagine Ringo is interested in a streamlined, no-bulls**t touring setup now that he has guys he likes. But it has made it pretty stale from the concertgoer point of view, where I for one loved seeing his tours and getting to see and hear some people I either would rarely even get the chance to see if I wanted to (e.g. Gary Brooker), or people I ended up digging who I probably wouldn't have sought out tickets for.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: WonderfulLittlePad on March 29, 2017, 07:14:31 AM
Will be in NOLA tonight.  Can't wait!!  Was hoping for a Wake the World and Add Some Music, but don't think we will get that.  Oh well, will still be a great show.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Marty Castillo on March 29, 2017, 07:46:46 AM
Were they very strict about no signing? Almost unbelievable that you can't even get one thing signed for $500...
At least at the show I was at, there was no way you would be able to get anything signed via the meet and greet. The woman who manages the whole VIP thing is right in front of you taking pictures, and she said multiple times there won't be any signing. I wish they stuck to the two personal items thing that they used the last leg of the tour.
That's a real bummer. I've often advocated that the $500 price tag for these meet & greets were reasonable due to the value of the ticket and the value of the items you could get signed. Not anymore. I assume the book was pre-signed? Any chance we could see a photo? After the debacle with Premiere Collectibles, I would be hesitant of anything "signed" by Brian that I didn't personally witness...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 29, 2017, 09:18:58 AM
Valid point...given the current lineup of the all-stars, I couldn't see Al holding down the rhythm parts on the music of Santana or Toto. He could swing the Mr. Mister stuff as well as Todd Rundgren's material and most of Ringo's stuff. But if he were just added in as a third guitarist, he could do it since he could drop in and out as he pleases, like he does now anyway. As far as vocals, I think this current band could handle BB harmonies...but that is far from true for all incarnations of the band.

I'm really tired of this lineup honestly. They are absolutely incredible...but it has gotten tiring. I never had the desire to hear anything remotely related to Mr. Mister live, yet I now have a total of four times since 2010 with Ringo. Even the stuff I LOVE (AKA The rest of the band) has been exhausted at this point.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: bummerinparadise on March 29, 2017, 03:40:02 PM
Were they very strict about no signing? Almost unbelievable that you can't even get one thing signed for $500...
At least at the show I was at, there was no way you would be able to get anything signed via the meet and greet. The woman who manages the whole VIP thing is right in front of you taking pictures, and she said multiple times there won't be any signing. I wish they stuck to the two personal items thing that they used the last leg of the tour.
That's a real bummer. I've often advocated that the $500 price tag for these meet & greets were reasonable due to the value of the ticket and the value of the items you could get signed. Not anymore. I assume the book was pre-signed? Any chance we could see a photo? After the debacle with Premiere Collectibles, I would be hesitant of anything "signed" by Brian that I didn't personally witness...
https://ibb.co/fHPirF < There's a picture of the book I got with the package. Yes it was pre-signed, so I'm not going to trust that it's authentic. I honestly didn't think it was even close to being worth it. The meet and greet felt like people said it was during C50, enough time for a quick handshake and picture before you got rushed out. The whole thing was finished in 10 minutes, so it's not like they had to stop doing signing due to time.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Marty Castillo on March 29, 2017, 04:36:45 PM
Were they very strict about no signing? Almost unbelievable that you can't even get one thing signed for $500...
At least at the show I was at, there was no way you would be able to get anything signed via the meet and greet. The woman who manages the whole VIP thing is right in front of you taking pictures, and she said multiple times there won't be any signing. I wish they stuck to the two personal items thing that they used the last leg of the tour.
That's a real bummer. I've often advocated that the $500 price tag for these meet & greets were reasonable due to the value of the ticket and the value of the items you could get signed. Not anymore. I assume the book was pre-signed? Any chance we could see a photo? After the debacle with Premiere Collectibles, I would be hesitant of anything "signed" by Brian that I didn't personally witness...
https://ibb.co/fHPirF < There's a picture of the book I got with the package. Yes it was pre-signed, so I'm not going to trust that it's authentic. I honestly didn't think it was even close to being worth it. The meet and greet felt like people said it was during C50, enough time for a quick handshake and picture before you got rushed out. The whole thing was finished in 10 minutes, so it's not like they had to stop doing signing due to time.
Interesting that they had him sign with a silver sharpie. I've been critical in the past with the legitimacy of autographs coming from Team Wilson, but this looks legit to me.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: tpesky on March 29, 2017, 06:35:02 PM
Al just needs more leads in Brian's band, not a career reinventing at this point. Unless he prefers not to have them, which is his choice and that's fine.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on March 29, 2017, 07:02:34 PM
At intermission now in New Orleans. Same set list so far as Orlando, except Al singing Shut Down and Little Deuce Coupe before Little Honda.

 Brian looks very happy and is in good voice. Super show so far.   :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on March 29, 2017, 07:20:56 PM
Awesome!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: bummerinparadise on March 29, 2017, 07:28:05 PM
Good that Al is getting more leads at the New Orleans show. Hopefully it stays that way for the dates coming up.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: tpesky on March 29, 2017, 08:06:58 PM
At intermission now in New Orleans. Same set list so far as Orlando, except Al singing Shut Down and Little Deuce Coupe before Little Honda.

 Brian looks very happy and is in good voice. Super show so far.   :)

Great news!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 29, 2017, 08:08:52 PM
Now if he could get leads on songs that are ya know...actually interesting and impressive to see a band of this degree doing...that would be great too!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: bummerinparadise on March 29, 2017, 08:19:19 PM
I thought Wake The World fit nicely in the set list, hopefully that or a song like it for Al will show up soon also


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 30, 2017, 06:15:13 AM
At intermission now in New Orleans. Same set list so far as Orlando, except Al singing Shut Down and Little Deuce Coupe before Little Honda.

 Brian looks very happy and is in good voice. Super show so far.   :)

I get the sense those two car songs, usually with Al singing the lead, are part of the "regular" setlist and for some reason the first two shows on the tour were shortened. The New Orleans setlist gets us closer to the standard setlist length from last year.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: WonderfulLittlePad on March 30, 2017, 07:02:43 AM
Was at the show last night.  Had a great time.  Here are my thoughts.

Feel Flows and The Night Was So Young were my favorites.  Blondie does an exceptional job on feel flows.  Brian on The Night Was So Young was unbelievable.  He even hit the higher Carl parts on why did you have to lie yay yay parts.  I couldn't believe it was even him at first.

Everything up until You still believe in me was stellar.  Top Notch really!  California Saga also really stood out.

Now the bad part.  Brian really struggled to get through Pet Sounds.  He sounded great before and after Pet Sounds, but beginning with YSBIM he was short of breath really bad and a lot of trouble even getting a word out.  He did do a nice job on GOK though.  He also did awesome on Good Vibrations and Surfin USA as well.  So it was weird that he could barely even say a word during the PS set.

All in all it was a great show and the crowd really enjoyed it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on March 30, 2017, 07:06:20 AM
Set List for New Orleans, 29 Mar 2017:

California Girls
Dance Dance Dance
I Get Around
Shut Down
Little Deuce Coupe
Little Honda
Row row row your boat
Do It Again
Surfer Girl
The Night Was So Young
California Saga
Don't Worry Baby
Let Him Run Wild
Feel Flows
Wild Honey
Sail on, Sailor

INTERMISSION

Pet Sounds album

Encore:
Good Vibrations
Help Me Rhonda
Barbara Ann
Surfin USA
Fun Fun Fun
Love and Mercy

Notes:
It was a great night at the old Saenger Theater. The crowd, mostly college aged to 30s, really got into it and the band fed off that enthusiasm.
Brian did the girls yell/boys yell twice - once at very beginning then again later. He looked to be very happy.
There were lots of standing ovations, including after Wild Honey. I know that some of you don't care for this song in the show but the crowd here loved it.

Pet Sounds sounded pretty good.
Although not anywhere near my favorite on the album, Sloop John B  was a highlight, with Al and Brian doing well.
Heard an alternate lyric for GOK: "You never need to doubt it / I'll make you d--- sure about it". Thought that was funny for a song called God Only Knows!
As IKTAA  ended, Brian sang "Woooooo ooo  ooo" a couple of times.

The band intros ended up being a highlight. I've never seen it done so brilliantly. As each band member was introduced a bit of song would be played, long enough for the member to sometimes join in for a few notes. From Nicky Wonder's "Take a Walk on the Wild Side" to Billy Hinsche's "I'm a Fool" to Blondie's "Thank you (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin) which he sang the chorus, it just confirms how incredible this band is and how blessed Brian is to have them backing him up. He acknowledged them as numerous times he shouted, "Isn't this band great?!"

At the end, a kid (maybe 20 years old) came up to me and said, "How did you like it?" He was so enthusiastic. Yes, I Loved it.

I got a bit spoiled last year seeing Brian so many times. Looks like this will be the only time seeing him this year, so I treasured every moment.
Bless you, Brian!

 :bw



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on March 30, 2017, 07:42:08 AM
Brian on The Night Was So Young was unbelievable.  He even hit the higher Carl parts on why did you have to lie yay yay parts.  I couldn't believe it was even him at first.
That's so great! Can't wait to hear this.

Thanks for the reviews, guys!



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 30, 2017, 08:05:37 AM
You know it's a good night when Brian starts cursing!  :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on March 30, 2017, 08:17:30 AM
Lolz yes! ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: petsoundsnola on March 30, 2017, 02:18:00 PM
Was at the show last night.  Had a great time.  Here are my thoughts.

Feel Flows and The Night Was So Young were my favorites.  Blondie does an exceptional job on feel flows.  Brian on The Night Was So Young was unbelievable.  He even hit the higher Carl parts on why did you have to lie yay yay parts.  I couldn't believe it was even him at first.

Everything up until You still believe in me was stellar.  Top Notch really!  California Saga also really stood out.

Now the bad part.  Brian really struggled to get through Pet Sounds.  He sounded great before and after Pet Sounds, but beginning with YSBIM he was short of breath really bad and a lot of trouble even getting a word out.  He did do a nice job on GOK though.  He also did awesome on Good Vibrations and Surfin USA as well.  So it was weird that he could barely even say a word during the PS set.

All in all it was a great show and the crowd really enjoyed it.


I was there last night as well, and I agree with everything you have said.  Let my add my exuberance in hearing "Let Him Run Wild"- one my absolute favorites.

I had no idea that Matt carried the show to that extent, but I certainly enjoyed his vocals.  15 years ago, Brian toured Pet Sounds and handled all of the leads himself.  It is clear that Brian is slowing down and is now "speaking" his assigned vocals to a much greater extent.  That's OK, and I definitely appreciate that we were in same room as the wonderful Brian Wilson.  I am beyond grateful that he came to my City. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on March 30, 2017, 04:19:28 PM
Did you get to record a video for The Night Was So Young??????


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: thatjacob on March 30, 2017, 06:22:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7HaH00KQrs someone just posted the rehearsal of "the night was so young"


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: tpesky on March 30, 2017, 06:37:20 PM
When I saw the tour last Fall, Brian had a lot of trouble with YSBIM. That would be a great one for Al and Matt to do together to give Brian a break and one that Al sang a lot over the years.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on March 30, 2017, 06:53:07 PM
 :o wow!!! a full concert doing these songs pwweeeeaaassseeeeeeeee!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on March 30, 2017, 07:32:31 PM
And here's from the actual show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK1wJCm1fhw


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on March 30, 2017, 07:41:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7HaH00KQrs someone just posted the rehearsal of "the night was so young"

I had taped it but this is much better quality.
I also taped Let Him Run Wild, although right before the song started the guy next to me decided he needed to leave so in that jostling I missed the first few seconds. Might post it if it doesn't turn up on YouTube. Matt did a fine job with it.
Finally, managed to tape Feel Flows but after 20 seconds or so it suddenly gets real sloooow. Must have inadventantly pushed a button. Guess that can't be fixed? Oh well, Blondie sounded great.**

**Update: this technologically challenged old lady somehow figured out how to fix it so Feels Flows is at the proper speed throughout.
If I do post these on you tube it will be for a short time to give you all an opportunity to hear them. When I recorded them I didn't use close ups so you don't see the band too well so they are not really of a quality to stay up.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: beatle608 on March 30, 2017, 09:24:51 PM
Does anyone here who did a meet and greet this year have a photo of the signed book they gave out?

Want to make sure they aren't passing out auto-pen books like some of us dealt with last fall.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Cabinessenceking on March 31, 2017, 03:10:30 AM
And here's from the actual show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK1wJCm1fhw

So great at the end when he smiles! "was that a nice song?" he asks the crowd, obviously very nervous about public approval  ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: bummerinparadise on March 31, 2017, 06:00:17 AM
Were they very strict about no signing? Almost unbelievable that you can't even get one thing signed for $500...
At least at the show I was at, there was no way you would be able to get anything signed via the meet and greet. The woman who manages the whole VIP thing is right in front of you taking pictures, and she said multiple times there won't be any signing. I wish they stuck to the two personal items thing that they used the last leg of the tour.
That's a real bummer. I've often advocated that the $500 price tag for these meet & greets were reasonable due to the value of the ticket and the value of the items you could get signed. Not anymore. I assume the book was pre-signed? Any chance we could see a photo? After the debacle with Premiere Collectibles, I would be hesitant of anything "signed" by Brian that I didn't personally witness...
https://ibb.co/fHPirF < There's a picture of the book I got with the package. Yes it was pre-signed, so I'm not going to trust that it's authentic. I honestly didn't think it was even close to being worth it. The meet and greet felt like people said it was during C50, enough time for a quick handshake and picture before you got rushed out. The whole thing was finished in 10 minutes, so it's not like they had to stop doing signing due to time.
There's a picture of it if you follow the link above. Definitely physically signed.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: thorgil on March 31, 2017, 08:47:59 AM
Thanks so much everybody for the reviews and videos. You are great! :bw


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on March 31, 2017, 09:48:02 AM
Here's a review of the 29 March concert from one of our local rags:

http://www.bestofneworleans.com/thelatest/archives/2017/03/30/you-still-believe-in-me-brian-wilsons-goodbye-to-pet-sounds (http://www.bestofneworleans.com/thelatest/archives/2017/03/30/you-still-believe-in-me-brian-wilsons-goodbye-to-pet-sounds)


Let Him Run Wild

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsMo7KePnsE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsMo7KePnsE)

Feel Flows

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4TfxUHHFYY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4TfxUHHFYY)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Debbie KL on March 31, 2017, 09:51:35 AM
I'm really looking forward to tomorrow night at the Prairie Band Casino in Mayetta, KS.  This set list looks so wonderful.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Debbie KL on March 31, 2017, 10:05:40 AM
Here's a review of the 29 March concert from one of our local rags:

http://www.bestofneworleans.com/thelatest/archives/2017/03/30/you-still-believe-in-me-brian-wilsons-goodbye-to-pet-sounds (http://www.bestofneworleans.com/thelatest/archives/2017/03/30/you-still-believe-in-me-brian-wilsons-goodbye-to-pet-sounds)


Let Him Run Wild

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsMo7KePnsE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsMo7KePnsE)

Feel Flows

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4TfxUHHFYY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4TfxUHHFYY)

Thanks so much for this.  Loved the review:

Great line:

“…But he's Brian Wilson, a big beam of light and the reason for everyone being there. “Please be seated,” he joked, maybe. following his opening ovation…

And another reason why we love him and another reason to see the shows…who else could do that?  So funny:

“..Wilson, still seated, shook hands with Chaplin while he was in the middle of a guitar solo…”

It’s a tough world out there.  Brian still makes it better.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Bicyclerider on March 31, 2017, 03:41:03 PM
Saw the New Orleans show - band was great as usual.  Loved seeing Billy Hinsche on keys.  Blondie was at his best - much better vocals than when I saw him with Brian in Biloxi last year.  Al as always was great.  Sound was flawed - too bass heavy and the lead guitar was at times inaudible.  I felt like running up to the stage and yelling like Murry, more treble on the guitars - turn the treble all the way up!!  Dance Dance Dance really needed the top end on the guitars.  Feel Flows was great but the flute was barely audible.

Then there was Brian - told the audience to be seated at least three times - I guess he didn't like us standing up and clapping!!  Did Row Row Row Your Boat, asked the women and then the men to scream several times.  Priceless -" this is a song Carl wrote before he died" - I much prefer those to  the songs he wrote after he died!

The bad - Brian's vocals on Pet Sounds were horrendous.  He "talked" most of the vocals and seemed to be reading them, at times not even in synch with the music.  He changed the lyrics to several songs and cut out some verses.  On God Only Knows - "you never need to doubt it - I'll make you so DAMN sure about it" with emphasis on the damn!  Dont' Talk - "don't talk, put your head right on my shoulder" plus other ad libs.  The singing coordination between he and Matt for the high parts of the songs sounded abrupt and awkward.  The whole thing made me glad I saw the first Pet Sounds tour with orchestra and with Brian singing all the songs, all the way through.

But then BEFORE Pet Sounds, and after, Brian sang great!!  His vocal on The Night was So Young was perfect.  Love and Mercy - great.  It was very bizarre.

Overall a rocking show but Pet Sounds was unfortunately disappointing.  Maybe it was an off night for Brian.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: beatle608 on March 31, 2017, 04:15:02 PM
Were they very strict about no signing? Almost unbelievable that you can't even get one thing signed for $500...
At least at the show I was at, there was no way you would be able to get anything signed via the meet and greet. The woman who manages the whole VIP thing is right in front of you taking pictures, and she said multiple times there won't be any signing. I wish they stuck to the two personal items thing that they used the last leg of the tour.
That's a real bummer. I've often advocated that the $500 price tag for these meet & greets were reasonable due to the value of the ticket and the value of the items you could get signed. Not anymore. I assume the book was pre-signed? Any chance we could see a photo? After the debacle with Premiere Collectibles, I would be hesitant of anything "signed" by Brian that I didn't personally witness...
https://ibb.co/fHPirF < There's a picture of the book I got with the package. Yes it was pre-signed, so I'm not going to trust that it's authentic. I honestly didn't think it was even close to being worth it. The meet and greet felt like people said it was during C50, enough time for a quick handshake and picture before you got rushed out. The whole thing was finished in 10 minutes, so it's not like they had to stop doing signing due to time.
There's a picture of it if you follow the link above. Definitely physically signed.


Yep, looks good to me. Interesting that they had him sign in silver marker on that page instead of the usual title page.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on March 31, 2017, 04:29:05 PM
One of the soundcheck videos on YouTube shows them running through "You're So Good to Me", so we may see that one back in the setlist at some point coming up.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on March 31, 2017, 04:47:35 PM
But then BEFORE Pet Sounds, and after, Brian sang great!!  His vocal on The Night was So Young was perfect.  Love and Mercy - great.  It was very bizarre.

Evidently Brian has made a decision to sing the Pet Sounds songs differently from the rest of them. The exception I noted in my review was Sloop John B. Maybe he sang in a "regular" style because he was singing alternate verses with Al.
I have noticed that he sometimes has trouble with the lyrics, particularly with "Here Today," trying to get the words out, particularly such as "it makes you feel so bad, it makes your heart feel sad" etc.
Of course, these songs weren't easy to sing 50 years ago when Brian was at his peak vocally


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 31, 2017, 05:26:59 PM
As legendary as the record is, I'd imagine Brian (and company) could be getting a bit tired of singing it for well over a year now...it really is time for a new tour concept. *cough cough* SMILE *cough cough*


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Bicyclerider on March 31, 2017, 05:34:06 PM
But then BEFORE Pet Sounds, and after, Brian sang great!!  His vocal on The Night was So Young was perfect.  Love and Mercy - great.  It was very bizarre.

Evidently Brian has made a decision to sing the Pet Sounds songs differently from the rest of them. The exception I noted in my review was Sloop John B. Maybe he sang in a "regular" style because he was singing alternate verses with Al.
I have noticed that he sometimes has trouble with the lyrics, particularly with "Here Today," trying to get the words out, particularly such as "it makes you feel so bad, it makes your heart feel sad" etc.
Of course, these songs weren't easy to sing 50 years ago when Brian was at his peak vocally

Yes I noticed that for some reason he sang Sloop better than the rest of the PS material.  Maybe he didn't want to piss Al off?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on March 31, 2017, 06:08:55 PM
As legendary as the record is, I'd imagine Brian (and company) could be getting a bit tired of singing it for well over a year now...it really is time for a new tour concept. *cough cough* SMILE *cough cough*

I wouldn't be surprised. I know I certainly would be if it was me. That said, I've never seen Pet Sounds live, so there's that.

Hey, it's the 40th anniversary of Love You...there's a tour for you ;)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Emdeeh on April 01, 2017, 11:53:37 AM
New date: July 7 at Montreux Jazz Festival in Switzerland.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Wirestone on April 01, 2017, 03:52:37 PM
 Heading out tonight. A little birdie told me to watch for Honkin' at an upcoming show, so fingers crossed.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Debbie KL on April 02, 2017, 11:36:25 AM
Heading out tonight. A little birdie told me to watch for Honkin' at an upcoming show, so fingers crossed.

Sorry I missed you last evening.

A few brief notes:

I was hoping someone would post a set list, since I just go to enjoy and don't make notes.  I think my friend may have a few photos soon though.

Brian came onstage bright-eyed and happy, and he was hilarious in his usual way.  His vocals were strong.  This was a show that was a bit shorter than I saw last year with no intermission, but wonderfully well done. 

"Feel Flows" is as impressive as people say.  Everywhere I go, people simply fall in love with Blondie.  While I've not had a conversation with him since the late 60's, I think he's still the delightful, funny, sweet man I met back then.

Matt was pure perfection, per usual.  "Let Him Run Wild" - frikkin' amazing.  I think that the flow between Brian and Matt vocals is better now than ever, as well.  And his Dad was in really strong voice.  Wonderful.

Everyone in the band seemed relaxed, in good humor and ready for whatever Brian might want to throw at them.  It was a wonderful chemistry.  There is no one else like Brian and the band appreciates his brilliance and his quirky humor.

Even though I tend to prefer symphony halls to a casino ballroom, I was impressed with with the fact that the sound people did a good job.  The first couple of songs, Brian was low in the mix, but they got that fixed and Brian sounded excellent.  I was impressed after a lot of years of a variety of theater sound challenges with how they handled it.

Oh, and I like Billy's new hat!

When I'm ready to write more on a busy day, I'll see what I have to add.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Fall Breaks on April 02, 2017, 12:23:07 PM
New date: July 7 at Montreux Jazz Festival in Switzerland.
What's the deal with so many festival shows?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on April 03, 2017, 06:11:17 AM
No 4/1 setlist up on setlist.fm yet, but someone posted one for last night, 4/2, and it looks like they've added "Drive In" and "Honkin' Down the Highway", taking the place of "Little Honda" and "Do It Again" as performed at previous longer shows. 

Might be the first time since 1977 or so that two songs from "Love You" were in the setlist for the same show.

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/hartman-arena-wichita-ks-33e6a06d.html


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on April 03, 2017, 06:19:34 AM
New date: July 7 at Montreux Jazz Festival in Switzerland.
What's the deal with so many festival shows?

The festival gigs are good for PR and indie cred and all of that. Younger audiences, coverage and notices from different media outlets that aren't going to necessarily cover gigs at the Cleveland Rib Cook-Off.

Better for industry cred and all of that than for hardcore fans I suppose in some cases, as festival shows are indeed often shortened to varying degrees and aren't always the most convenient, comfortable experience.

But I think Brian's tours have booked well in this aspect; a good mixture of theaters, some sheds (during appropriate months), festivals, and some casino gigs to hit certain markets.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Kid Presentable on April 03, 2017, 06:46:06 AM
He is a very wide-appealing grab for a large spectrum of festivals out there, he probably gets paid similarly to a theater gig, and the expectations are usually no more than 45-60 minutes.  Sounds perfect for the Brianator.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on April 03, 2017, 08:23:51 AM
So there are now two Love You songs in the setlist?  That's probably never even been done since the late 70s!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on April 03, 2017, 08:59:44 AM
Brian loves you! ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Emdeeh on April 03, 2017, 09:12:28 AM
Thanks so much for the links to LHRW and FF!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Wirestone on April 03, 2017, 10:04:27 AM
A bundle of impressions from the Prairie Band Casino show.

-- Brian in strong voice, good pitch and projection. An outstanding Love and Mercy.

-- Band, as ever, tight and responsive. The musical quote band intros continue to amuse, and this one included a shout-out to Kerry Livgren of the band Kansas, who was in the audience. (They played about 20 seconds of "Carry on Wayward Son.)

-- The venue was ... peculiar. A ballroom without permanent seating. A (much) older casino crowd. Folks around me talked for the entire show.

-- I'd been told beforehand that the band was told to do 90 minutes, and I've never seen the group go quite as fast at the start. For me, BW shows always take some time to lift off -- something about getting all those voices and instruments and Brian's mood aligned can take 20-30 minutes. Or maybe it's just getting myself in place to appreciate them. But with this show, they were practically done with the first set by the time that happened!

-- I think the shows should be billed differently. It's great to have a group show, with a bunch of shared leads, but I think the audience gets a mite confused when attending a "Brian Wilson" show to see Al, then Matt, then Blondie dominate the first set. They eventually figure it out, of course, but Brian's role in these shows is definitely different than it was seven or eight years ago.

-- The peculiar phrasing BW uses in the Pet Sounds material worked great when I saw him last summer in KC. This time, it didn't persuade me as much. The thing is, these aren't standard blues progressions of the type Bob Dylan uses. The PS material is composed, and the lead melody line needs to be clearly stated for the harmonies and backing instrumentation to make sense.

-- In the encores, BW handled the first verses of Surfin' USA and FFF, with Al then taking the second verses. I'd never seen that done before, and it was very effective.

-- Brian did the booming Mike bass vocal on LHRW.

-- I really wish I could have seen a full-length show.  :-\


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Wirestone on April 03, 2017, 11:55:15 AM
Love and Mercy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac1B7KsnOQI


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Debbie KL on April 03, 2017, 04:01:51 PM
A bundle of impressions from the Prairie Band Casino show.

-- Brian in strong voice, good pitch and projection. An outstanding Love and Mercy.

-- Band, as ever, tight and responsive. The musical quote band intros continue to amuse, and this one included a shout-out to Kerry Livgren of the band Kansas, who was in the audience. (They played about 20 seconds of "Carry on Wayward Son.)

-- The venue was ... peculiar. A ballroom without permanent seating. A (much) older casino crowd. Folks around me talked for the entire show.

-- I'd been told beforehand that the band was told to do 90 minutes, and I've never seen the group go quite as fast at the start. For me, BW shows always take some time to lift off -- something about getting all those voices and instruments and Brian's mood aligned can take 20-30 minutes. Or maybe it's just getting myself in place to appreciate them. But with this show, they were practically done with the first set by the time that happened!

-- I think the shows should be billed differently. It's great to have a group show, with a bunch of shared leads, but I think the audience gets a mite confused when attending a "Brian Wilson" show to see Al, then Matt, then Blondie dominate the first set. They eventually figure it out, of course, but Brian's role in these shows is definitely different than it was seven or eight years ago.

-- The peculiar phrasing BW uses in the Pet Sounds material worked great when I saw him last summer in KC. This time, it didn't persuade me as much. The thing is, these aren't standard blues progressions of the type Bob Dylan uses. The PS material is composed, and the lead melody line needs to be clearly stated for the harmonies and backing instrumentation to make sense.

-- In the encores, BW handled the first verses of Surfin' USA and FFF, with Al then taking the second verses. I'd never seen that done before, and it was very effective.

-- Brian did the booming Mike bass vocal on LHRW.

-- I really wish I could have seen a full-length show.  :-\

Clay - I tend to avoid casino venues, but the show is always so excellent that it was worth it, and it's priced more moderately as well. 

I must have had an experience similar to yours.  Obviously, the acoustics in a ballroom aren't the same as the Kauffman (superb), but I thought 2 songs in that the sound crew really had the mix down in that difficult venue and Brian did sound great.  I was 8th row/center (exactly where I like to be), so that may have helped.

I think the biggest problem with casino venues is the audience.  I had a woman behind me with the loudest, most piercing "whoop/screech" I'd ever heard, and she chose to project it throughout songs like "God Only Knows."  I was eyeing my banquet chair with the thought of picking it up and knocking her out (I think when she complained about "Don't Talk" at the top of her lungs) but thought better of it. I think she must have accidentally doubled her meds and then drunk a lot.  My hearing in my left ear actually went out for a few hours thanks to that creature.

Brian and company do such a great show, but no one can control the audience.  I still loved it - always a great treat.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: joshferrell on April 05, 2017, 11:23:31 AM
saw him last night in Fort Collins Colorado and all I can say is WOW!!!!!  ;D He was in great voice and great spirit, Al was also in great voice and Spirit and Blondie ROCKED!!!!!!Matt Jardine impressed me with his singing... people really got into the whole experience,,,


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: joshferrell on April 05, 2017, 11:39:04 AM
By the way he did "Row row row your boat" in the middle of "Pet Sounds" which I thought was kind of funny.... :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on April 05, 2017, 12:18:24 PM
Updated the top post with the most recent setlist from Colorado.

Anybody here have the 4/1 Prairie Band Casino setlist from Kansas? Missing that one so far.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on April 05, 2017, 01:02:32 PM
Doesn't seem to be here, or any other reviews/forums, or setlist.fm

...but it does seem like the set has stabilized so I'd imagine it was the same as its two successors but we also shouldn't assume! :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Wirestone on April 05, 2017, 01:44:42 PM
BW 4/1/17

CG
DDD
IGA
SD
LDC
SG
DWB
LHRW
Cali S
RRYB
FF
SOS

PS

GV
HMR
BA
SUSA
FFF
LM


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Debbie KL on April 05, 2017, 03:38:33 PM
By the way he did "Row row row your boat" in the middle of "Pet Sounds" which I thought was kind of funny.... :lol

Only Brian.  How many times have we said that?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Debbie KL on April 05, 2017, 03:39:12 PM
BW 4/1/17

CG
DDD
IGA
SD
LDC
SG
DWB
LHRW
Cali S
RRYB
FF
SOS

PS

GV
HMR
BA
SUSA
FFF
LM

Thx for the setlist. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on April 05, 2017, 06:37:53 PM
No Wild Honey? Bummer!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Wirestone on April 05, 2017, 07:25:14 PM
No Wild Honey? Bummer!

Not at the casino shows, apparently.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on April 05, 2017, 09:41:31 PM
BW 4/1/17

CG
DDD
IGA
SD
LDC
SG
DWB
LHRW
Cali S
RRYB
FF
SOS

PS

GV
HMR
BA
SUSA
FFF
LM

Gonna need to decode that setlist


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on April 05, 2017, 09:57:58 PM
i can de-code it for you if you wish..


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: rab2591 on April 06, 2017, 03:45:55 AM
BW 4/1/17

CG
DDD
IGA
SD
LDC
SG
DWB
LHRW
Cali S
RRYB
FF
SOS

PS

GV
HMR
BA
SUSA
FFF
LM

Gonna need to decode that setlist

California Girls
Dance Dance Dance
I get around
Shut down
Little deuce coupe
Surfer Girl
Don't Worry Baby
Let Him Run Wild
California Saga; California
RRYB (??)
Sail On Sailor

Pet Sounds set list

Good vibrations
Help Me Rhonda
Barbara Ann
Surfin USA
Fun fun fun
Love and mercy

(http://www.redriderleglamps.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/a/-/a-christmas-story-decoder-movie-002.jpg)

"RRYB", my decoder pin seems to be broken on this one. I'd chalk it up to tiredness but I wouldn't be able to guess this fully awake either.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ang Jones on April 06, 2017, 04:07:56 AM
RRYB - Row, row your boat?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on April 06, 2017, 05:16:53 AM
Yes! My decoder ring worked! ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: rab2591 on April 06, 2017, 05:24:29 AM
:lol

Thanks Ang and SB. Makes perfect sense to me!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Wirestone on April 06, 2017, 07:15:14 PM
Good work guys. I took notes on my phone at the show and just copied and pasted them over -- didn't mean to cause extra work!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Rich Panteluk on April 07, 2017, 03:35:08 PM
Anyone here going to the Vancouver show?  Drop me a line if you are interested in a meet up with a fellow Brian Wilson geek.  I also still have 4 extra centre orchestra row 14 (two seats together) and row 16 (another two seats together) if anyone wants great seats at face value.

Excited for the show!  Going to the Calgary show as well!
 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on April 07, 2017, 04:34:20 PM
 :lol :lol :lol :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: baseball95 on April 09, 2017, 05:22:22 PM
Latest set from last night looks like Honkin has already been cut. Really hope that was a one night thing only. :-\


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: VanDykeParksAndRec on April 09, 2017, 10:56:29 PM
What is the current line-up?  I saw him in Detroit last year without Darian and it was by far the weakest I had seen the line-up.  I saw Darian was back and now is gone again?  I'm seeing them again next month in Tulsa and a little worried.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on April 10, 2017, 06:04:35 AM
Latest set from last night looks like Honkin has already been cut. Really hope that was a one night thing only. :-\

It may be a short term anomaly, but it appears "Wake the World" and "Add Some Music" were added for last night in Seattle and "Honkin'" was still gone, so it may not come back. Or, it may be a sporadic inclusion.

It was only done a relatively small number of times last year. For whatever reason, they just don't seem to like to keep "Honkin'" in the setlist. Maybe they feel like the audience gives it a lackluster reaction, or maybe there's some other reason.

More of a bummer, "The Night Was So Young" was also dropped last night in Seattle.

On the plus side, the shows are continuing to get a little bit longer, coming back up to the 35-song level of last year with songs like "Salt Lake City" and "Do It Again" also being added.

But yeah, not the best sign in the world when the shows continue to get longer, but the "Love You" stuff is *still* dropped.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on April 10, 2017, 06:08:41 AM
What is the current line-up?  I saw him in Detroit last year without Darian and it was by far the weakest I had seen the line-up.  I saw Darian was back and now is gone again?  I'm seeing them again next month in Tulsa and a little worried.

I think Darian is great and he'd be my first pick to be there. But I don't think he's *that* much of a make-or-break for the show. I've seen the band with Billy Hinsch filling in, as well as Billy's fill-in Debbie Shair last year, and the show is still great and any ups and downs are usually down to what kind of night Brian is having. Darian apparently leaves his keyboard and his programmed keyboard patches/sounds for whomever fills in for him, and Darian often "rehearses" his replacements as well. Billy has been playing his music for 40-50 years, including most of those deep cuts from the 70s, so he can handle it.

As for the lineup, it's otherwise unchanged from last year, with Billy filling for Darian. I'd guess it's likely you're not going to see Darian next month in Tulsa, though I don't know his exact schedule.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Emdeeh on April 10, 2017, 06:09:43 AM
According to the Atlanta newspaper, Darian was there last night playing with the Zombies.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on April 10, 2017, 08:58:09 AM
Darian is on the Zombies tour which I think goes well into May.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: joe_blow on April 10, 2017, 12:03:38 PM
I was at the Vancouver show and thought it was fantastic. It was my 6th time seeing Brian and the band sounded better than ever. I was really impressed with Feel Flows and Here Today. The vocal blend on The Night Was So Young was another highlight. Brian, however seemed to be talking his lyrics more than singing and lacking energy. He did more than a few yawns during songs and yes, checked his watch. Al was great as usual and Matt stepped up to the plate big time in Don't Worry Baby. All in all it was a great show.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on April 10, 2017, 05:14:14 PM
Got back from my Seattle trip, tried to look for a boardie here who asked me in PM if i was attending the show, nothing, but got to meet amazing people, from young hipsters to parents, which the later were very excited about by enjoyment of the show, i got lot of compliments over my "passion" during the performance, i guess i was very expressif during the songs haha!

What can i say, i was on a cloud! number one on my bucketlist, a dream come true

Sad Darian is mussin', but still, the most surreal experience, spiritual, takes the album to a wole other level, very technical, i love how they push the harmonies in it and extend some outros of songs, setlist was great, was surprised Night Was So Young was already dropped of already :( but it's a win-win cause Wake & Add Some came back, add that to Feel Flows, which surprised many people i talked too (funny enough, while introducing that song Blondie said it was from So Tough, then realized he confused it while exchanging some words with some band members just said to correct himself "Surf's Up", leaving people to believe they'll play the song !!! i was in shock for seconds, before realizing he meant the album title hahaha)

Nothing i can add much more than i guess what everyone that attends these tours don't already know, just that i was bummed out byt he merch: some okay sutff, but the coolest thing was by far the boomer jacket picking from the Pet Sounds colors, but 90 dollars??? if anyone knows where i can find that on the internet or wants to get ride of it, i'll be very interested

Also i got to meet the percussionist dude, sorry forgot the name at top of my head, the guy with the long blonde hair! he came out in the audience after the show was done and people were leaving, and he was rockin' a Smithereens shirt to wich i complimented him to, only to realized he only came by to say hi to some people from the audience he seemed to already know, so i let him be by just shooking his hand saying how amazing the show was.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: The All Golden on April 10, 2017, 06:08:13 PM
I attended the Boise show and I thought it was fantastic! So glad to have finally had the chance to see Brian perform live, was definitely the most memorable night of my life! The band sounded great and Brian was really into it for the first part but I suppose he was getting bored during Pet Sounds as he resorted to just talking through the lyrics, even yawning during some of it! LOL, I didn't care, I love the man and seeing him in person was enough for me. Also, I never truly appreciated the instrumentals of Pet Sounds until hearing them live, they are lovely pieces! Al and Blondie were really good, Blondie rocking out during FF, WH and SOS were definitely the highlights of the first part for me, what an experience that was!

Overall a great experience, very thankful I got to be there and I hope to have the chance to see him live again!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on April 10, 2017, 06:11:39 PM
With more than before some Love You tracks being played, here's to hope after the end of Pet Sounds tour they go more into Love You tracks, now i'll go back to see him for that !!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on April 10, 2017, 06:54:40 PM
Also, I never truly appreciated the instrumentals of Pet Sounds until hearing them live, they are lovely pieces! 
Couldn't agree more -- I was really struck by this hearing Pet Sounds live in 2013 and 2016. So many dazzling little passages and textures in the songs I hadn't noticed before, as many times as I've heard them.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: barsone on April 11, 2017, 10:21:14 AM
Got back from my Seattle trip, tried to look for a boardie here who asked me in PM if i was attending the show, nothing, but got to meet amazing people, from young hipsters to parents, which the later were very excited about by enjoyment of the show, i got lot of compliments over my "passion" during the performance, i guess i was very expressif during the songs haha!

What can i say, i was on a cloud! number one on my bucketlist, a dream come true

Sad Darian is mussin', but still, the most surreal experience, spiritual, takes the album to a wole other level, very technical, i love how they push the harmonies in it and extend some outros of songs, setlist was great, was surprised Night Was So Young was already dropped of already :( but it's a win-win cause Wake & Add Some came back, add that to Feel Flows, which surprised many people i talked too (funny enough, while introducing that song Blondie said it was from So Tough, then realized he confused it while exchanging some words with some band members just said to correct himself "Surf's Up", leaving people to believe they'll play the song !!! i was in shock for seconds, before realizing he meant the album title hahaha)


Ziggy,  so sorry we didn't get to meet.  I actually had a severe 48hr bug and I missed the show.  My daughter and her husband were the crazies in the 5th row on the aisle.  Glad you enjoyed the show.  Dang, I wanted to hear Pet Sounds live 1 more time before my time comes !!

Nothing i can add much more than i guess what everyone that attends these tours don't already know, just that i was bummed out byt he merch: some okay sutff, but the coolest thing was by far the boomer jacket picking from the Pet Sounds colors, but 90 dollars??? if anyone knows where i can find that on the internet or wants to get ride of it, i'll be very interested

Also i got to meet the percussionist dude, sorry forgot the name at top of my head, the guy with the long blonde hair! he came out in the audience after the show was done and people were leaving, and he was rockin' a Smithereens shirt to wich i complimented him to, only to realized he only came by to say hi to some people from the audience he seemed to already know, so i let him be by just shooking his hand saying how amazing the show was.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Emdeeh on April 11, 2017, 02:15:32 PM
New date:
Aug. 5, Glastonbury Abbey Extravaganza in Glastonbury, England


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Rich E P on April 13, 2017, 08:36:56 AM
I saw the Vancouver show on Saturday (flew in from Calgary) and am seeing the Calgary show tonight!  I also saw the Hollywood Bowl show this past summer earlier in the Pet Sounds tour.  The Vancouver show was great.  Brian was in good humour, voice and form for the first set.

They started with a clip of River Deep Mountain High with Mertens and then Gregory handling the vocals then went right into Cal Girls.  Highlights for me were Brian on The Night Was So Young, Blondie on Feel Flows, Wild Honey and Sail On Sailor (man that guy has the rock swagger thang going on), Matt Jardine on Don't Worry Baby and Let Him Run Wild (he is my fave falsetto next to Brian's classic era and perhaps Frankie Valli), and damn near everything that comes from Al Jardine's vocal cords!

To be honest Brian didn't seem very into Pet Sounds and his vocals and phrasing really took a downturn during this set.  He did deliver on God Only Knows and Sloop John B but the other tracks suffered.

Brian seemed to kick back into gear during the encore.  I really enjoyed the show overall.  The band is UNBELIEVABLE.  I have seen them over 30 times and they do not disappoint.  Always worth the time and expense of traveling to see them.  I got a copy of the setlist thanks to fellow Canadian Clint (Big thanks!), and I had a nice chat with Brian's first wife Marilyn and her equally charming husband Daniel who Brian dedicated the show to.  Always a privilege to see the master Brian.  Go see him now folks as the song goes, "Won't last forever...it's kinda sad".

Looking forward to Calgary tonight.  Hope the band makes it safely through the snowstorm!  I'd love to hear Wake The World (I have seen the band play that yet), or Honkin Down The Highway.  Fingers crossed!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Scaroline No on April 15, 2017, 09:11:29 PM
Just came out of the Winnipeg show! Brian seemed to be in a good mood and sang well, particularly during the first set. I'm on my phone right now so I'll go into more detail when I get access to a computer, but for now here's the set list:

River Deep Mountain High (intro)
California Girls
Dance Dance Dance
I Get Around
Shut Down
Little Deuce Coupe
Little Honda
Do It Again
Surfer Girl
Wake the World
Add Some Music
California Saga
Don't Worry Baby
Let Him Run Wild
Feel Flows
Wild Honey
Sail on Sailor

Break

Pet Sounds - with Row Row Row Your Boat after Don't Talk

Encore:
Good Vibrations
Help Me Rhonda
Barbara Ann
Surfin USA
Fun Fun Fun
Love and Mercy

Curiously, they did Salt Lake City at the soundcheck but it didn't make it into the show.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Scaroline No on April 16, 2017, 07:24:34 AM
I didn't take any videos during the show itself because I just wanted to be fully present and not watch through my phone, but I took a few at the soundcheck in case anyone is interested  :)

Salt Lake City:
https://youtu.be/TdxA8pMMRtQ

Little Honda:
https://youtu.be/mQpQxlcAH2M

California Saga: California:
https://youtu.be/GLDJpKigSa0

Feel Flows:
https://youtu.be/uZHNcK0dOIY

Wild Honey:
https://youtu.be/PFQ5eusJZx0


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: baseball95 on April 19, 2017, 08:31:59 AM
It looks like Matt has missed the last few shows based on some reviews and reports i've seen.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on April 19, 2017, 09:53:13 AM
Who sang "Don't Worry Baby"?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on April 19, 2017, 09:59:13 AM
According to the Sioux City local review, it's a guy named Casey McDonough of NRBQ.

I believe you can see him (just a bit) and hear him in this YouTube clip of a recent show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuRKT9v2w_c

This review (http://siouxcityjournal.com/entertainment/columnists/miller/review-brian-wilson-offers-the-beach-boys-sound-most-haven/article_06e28b0d-510b-532c-8a1f-53407e79698c.html) seems to suggest they handed over all of Matt's leads to this guy, including two songs in the first set and PS material.

Hopefully it's a short term issue with Matt and hopefully he'll be back soon. It looks like Matt was posting about being in Canada for gigs on Facebook just a few days ago, so whatever came up I would guess was pretty sudden.

Surprised a bit they didn't go for Randell Kirsche who, since leaving (seemingly booted from?) Mike's band a couple years ago, has been essentially replacing Matt's falsetto in Matt's sideband "California Surf Inc."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on April 19, 2017, 11:04:43 AM
Very interesting. Yes...it does seem he was booted from "The Beach Boys"...but honestly, I prefer "Ike". Regardless, has Kirsch ever worked with Brian Wilson (or Al Jardine for that matter) to have a connection to them, besides Matt Jardine?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on April 19, 2017, 11:07:40 AM
Very interesting. Yes...it does seem he was booted from "The Beach Boys"...but honestly, I prefer "Ike". Regardless, has Kirsch ever worked with Brian Wilson (or Al Jardine for that matter) to have a connection to them, besides Matt Jardine?

Kirsche has worked with Al in the past. I saw him play with Al's "Family & Friends" in 2000, and I believe he's listed in Al's "Live in Las Vegas" CD liner notes, so I'm guessing he was a sporadic fill-in for Al prior to joining Mike's band a few years later.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on April 19, 2017, 01:03:50 PM
I'm glad i got to see Matt live! maybe they felt he stole the show?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on April 19, 2017, 01:13:15 PM
I saw him twice in 2015 and Matt steals the show for sure doing 1960s era BW falsetto! Though the man himself never disappoints in any key or era.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on April 19, 2017, 07:43:55 PM
I seriously doubt he is "out" for good and he certainly doesn't steal the show. In the end, it's still a Brian Wilson Fest...even if "Don't Worry Baby" gets thunderous applause every night.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on April 19, 2017, 09:56:41 PM
Nah man even at the end when each members get presented on stage Matt has an crazy long ovation.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on April 20, 2017, 07:46:47 AM
I've seen Matt with them three times and while he got a great reception, it was far from outshining the "main attractions"...both his father and Brian always had the most applause at the end...even on "off" nights for Brian. Out of the whole backing band though, he probably did get the best response.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: baseball95 on April 20, 2017, 08:43:56 AM
I'm sure Matt will be back soon enough he is amazing and fits the band so well. I just hope when he comes back so do the Love You tracks. If not I think we've seen the last of those.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on April 20, 2017, 09:08:16 AM
I'm sure Matt will be back soon enough he is amazing and fits the band so well. I just hope when he comes back so do the Love You tracks. If not I think we've seen the last of those.

I've wanted to ask the percussionist guy so bad about dropping the Love You tracks, but he was with friends :(
i'm optimistic thinking they're working on it maybe for a future tour ???

Also i agree, i looked at SMiLE live 2004 again last night which is tremendous, Brian sings beautifully, but part of me really wishes we could redo it with Matt in it instead of robot Jeff Foskett.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on April 20, 2017, 11:59:50 AM
Matt and Al singing on the full "Smile" album would be major.

Who knows, maybe with Mike pulling out some sort of "Wild Honey" tour this year, Brian and his folks will be spurred to try something more adventurous and hammer out a short little "Smile" tour before the end of the year.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on April 20, 2017, 03:57:52 PM
Matt and Al singing on the full "Smile" album would be major.

Who knows, maybe with Mike pulling out some sort of "Wild Honey" tour this year, Brian and his folks will be spurred to try something more adventurous and hammer out a short little "Smile" tour before the end of the year.

There you go getting me all hopes up!!!!! i'm beggin' on my knees please!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on April 20, 2017, 04:16:58 PM
By the way, maybe it's just me, but i just noticed Jeff wears THE SAME CLOTHES as Brian during the SMiLE live... yikes


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Pretty Funky on April 21, 2017, 02:35:24 AM
From a poster BeachBoysAR312 over at Brian's board.

'Hi everyone! So I asked Probyn about this last night. No need to worry. Matt is OK, he just had to step back for a few shows due to unexpected circumstances back home; therefore, Casey is filling in. He's good. Saw one video earlier of Don't Talk and That's Not Me, which is posted above. Hoping to find more video. Matt will be back when the situation is resolved, hopefully soon. All is well. Thanks for bringing this to my attention'


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on April 21, 2017, 08:27:40 PM
I hope Matt will be back when I see them on the 28th.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: sea of tunes on April 21, 2017, 08:50:45 PM
I attended the show in Columbus, Ohio tonight. This was my first time seeing Brian live and I'm so happy I did. I normally don't go to live shows, crowds give me the willies honestly.

The set list played was very close to the one listed above although "Help Me, Rhonda" was played during the first set. I was hoping to be surprised and hear something from LOVE YOU but I know that's a long shot.

Just being able to see Brian (and Al, Blondie, et al) was worth every penny. Being in the same building with the man and paying homage is what it's all about. The theater was rapturous in their love and adoration of Brian (and band).

I really do think "Love & Mercy" is now in my top 5 favorite BW songs. Hearing the various live performances of it over the years (through the power of YouTube and elsewhere) brought a much deeper appreciation for what a special piece of music it is. I smiled when Brian sang "I was sitting in a crappy movie with my hands on my chin". Yes, he actually said crappy.

Love & Mercy to all.

 :bw


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: pdas1996 on April 23, 2017, 10:13:50 PM
Having "Brian Wilson presents Pet Sounds" be my first concert was amazing! My sister used my extra ticket, so that was an added bonus. (She's 11 and she loved it!)

I was disappointed at no Matt or Darian, but Casey was a good falsetto, and I know that Darian's playing with the Zombies.

During Love & Mercy, Brian used the lyric "A lot of people getting shot/It really scares me"

My favorites (besides Pet Sounds) were Feel Flows, California Saga: California, and Wake the World/Add Some Music.

Side note: I wonder if Blondie ever gets tired of playing the tambourine... ???


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: baseball95 on April 27, 2017, 07:44:59 AM
Looks like Matt is back with the group, still no sign of the Love You tracks. I'm going to try and request them for the D.C. Shows next week since there's two. Anyone have any thoughts on how to possibly make a request to someone in Brian's group? I'd really love to hear them play Honkin and the night was so young.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on April 28, 2017, 09:47:20 AM
Looks like Matt returned for the 4/25 show. Good to see he's back. While the "Love You" tracks are still missing, they're keeping the setlist at the higher end in terms of length.

I am curious why they moved "Rhonda" to way earlier in the set. Not like mind-blowingly interesting, but a bit weird. At least Al got "Wake the World" back even if "Honkin'" only made a brief cameo appearance so far this tour. Interesting that it has now been a while since he did "Then I Kissed Her" or "Cotton Fields."

I've updated the top post with recent setlists. Still no setlists for Calgary, Sioux City, and Des Moines, if anybody has them.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: marcella27 on April 28, 2017, 09:11:59 PM
Newark show was fantastic.  Brian was in the zone!  He seemed to be in a really great mood, along with Al and the rest of the band.  He improved some lyrics and his voice was in good shape.  Some super quick comments...

Matt was back. 

Setlist had Do It Again (by the way, SUCH a good song live I don't know how everyone isn't up and out of their seats on this one), Let Him Run Wild.  No Honkin. 

Blondie's little miniset was unbelievable.  He is such a great singer and makes everything look completely effortless.   I can now go to my grave content that I saw Brian, Al and Blondie do Feel Flows. 

Brian gave a shoutout to David Leaf and three other names I didn't recognize, so I assume David Leaf was at the show. 

When they did the band intros the played Thank You Fallentinme Be Mice Elf Agin for Blondie, and he sang along for one chorus.  I wish it had been the whole song!

Brian and the band were so relaxed and seemed so happy.  I saw five shows last summer and loved them all, but tonight was probably the best. 



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Amy B. on April 28, 2017, 09:24:40 PM
Just back from the show at NJPAC in Newark, NJ. That venue is pretty big, but it was nearly sold out. We managed to get seats in the 3rd tier (out of 4) and as I have a fear of heights, I thought I might faint, we were so high up. But after the first couple of songs I was OK. I was pleased that Brian can sell that many tickets. This may be incoherent. I'm pretty tired.

Brian seemed to be in great spirits, and everyone was "great"-- the Great Al Jardine, the Great Blondie Chaplin, the Great Matt Jardine. I'm not sure I ever heard the band do Let Him Run Wild Before, so that was a treat. Matt got a lot of applause. Blondie kind of floated on and off the stage, seeming to show up whenever he felt like it! And then he took over toward the end of the first set, when he sang his leads. His guitar solos went on a little too long for my taste, but he is a welcome presence overall. During Wild Honey I kept wishing they'd put the spotlight on Probyn and the thermin. He finally got his due applause during intros.

Seemed like a lot of people around me were new fans, or very casual fans. After Add Some Music I heard someone remark, "Oh, I like that song," as if they'd never heard it.

As was mentioned in reviews of other shows, Brian's vocals were energetic in the first set but he struggled a bit during Pet Sounds. He does that sort of Frank Sinatra talk-sing ad-lib thing. Also ,when he strains he sometimes sounds like early 90s Brian, which is almost spooky.  I think this has to be it for him and these challenging songs live, after this tour. They're just too hard to sing. Luckily Matt handled the high notes. I always find it funny how Brian can still command a room. He got the now-traditional standing ovation after God Only Knows, but soon said bluntly, "Have a seat," and everyone immediately did. Brian may think he's there to please us, but everyone wants to please him.

And of course the encores were excellent, with everyone, especially Nelson (and apart from Brian), at peak energy, and some band members running around the stage. During L&M Brian sang about a lot of people getting shot. This got audible recognition from the audience-- appreciation that Brian acknowledged gun violence, I guess.

This might have been the first show I've been to without Jeff. I don't remember Jeff thanking and naming the crew the way Paul did. Maybe he did, but I don't recall that. Also, several of the band members hugged Paul after they were introduced. This band, plus or minus some members, has been together a long time. Darian was missed, but it was great to see Billy (of the original boyband, "except they could sing and play," as Paul said) and Gary.

I wondered how people would react to Brian's weak PS vocals, but as we were filing out, all I heard was "That was so good," and "Great show." I had been hesitant to go because I felt I'd seen him enough, and when he vocals were stronger, but I'm glad I went.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 28, 2017, 10:02:22 PM
I'm wondering if Brian's just bored with Pet Sounds?  Asking cause I just saw this video from the soundcheck from this very tour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d-k31-sn-s
and go to about the 2:15 mark and let it play for a bit..

so the voice is still there, esp. when he's relaxed and he's still into it. Also, his keyboard is definitely audible.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Mayoman on April 28, 2017, 11:42:43 PM
I'm wondering if Brian's just bored with Pet Sounds?  Asking cause I just saw this video from the soundcheck from this very tour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d-k31-sn-s
and go to about the 2:15 mark and let it play for a bit..

so the voice is still there, esp. when he's relaxed and he's still into it. Also, his keyboard is definitely audible.

Al's reaction to the disco version of Here Comes The Night is great!  :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on April 29, 2017, 12:01:27 AM
woowwwwww! Brian doin' 'here comes the night'. yeahhhh!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: mikeddonn on April 29, 2017, 01:15:08 AM
Just back from the show at NJPAC in Newark, NJ. That venue is pretty big, but it was nearly sold out. We managed to get seats in the 3rd tier (out of 4) and as I have a fear of heights, I thought I might faint, we were so high up. But after the first couple of songs I was OK. I was pleased that Brian can sell that many tickets. This may be incoherent. I'm pretty tired.

Brian seemed to be in great spirits, and everyone was "great"-- the Great Al Jardine, the Great Blondie Chaplin, the Great Matt Jardine. I'm not sure I ever heard the band do Let Him Run Wild Before, so that was a treat. Matt got a lot of applause. Blondie kind of floated on and off the stage, seeming to show up whenever he felt like it! And then he took over toward the end of the first set, when he sang his leads. His guitar solos went on a little too long for my taste, but he is a welcome presence overall. During Wild Honey I kept wishing they'd put the spotlight on Probyn and the thermin. He finally got his due applause during intros.

Seemed like a lot of people around me were new fans, or very casual fans. After Add Some Music I heard someone remark, "Oh, I like that song," as if they'd never heard it.

As was mentioned in reviews of other shows, Brian's vocals were energetic in the first set but he struggled a bit during Pet Sounds. He does that sort of Frank Sinatra talk-sing ad-lib thing. Also ,when he strains he sometimes sounds like early 90s Brian, which is almost spooky.  I think this has to be it for him and these challenging songs live, after this tour. They're just too hard to sing. Luckily Matt handled the high notes. I always find it funny how Brian can still command a room. He got the now-traditional standing ovation after God Only Knows, but soon said bluntly, "Have a seat," and everyone immediately did. Brian may think he's there to please us, but everyone wants to please him.

And of course the encores were excellent, with everyone, especially Nelson (and apart from Brian), at peak energy, and some band members running around the stage. During L&M Brian sang about a lot of people getting shot. This got audible recognition from the audience-- appreciation that Brian acknowledged gun violence, I guess.

This might have been the first show I've been to without Jeff. I don't remember Jeff thanking and naming the crew the way Paul did. Maybe he did, but I don't recall that. Also, several of the band members hugged Paul after they were introduced. This band, plus or minus some members, has been together a long time. Darian was missed, but it was great to see Billy (of the original boyband, "except they could sing and play," as Paul said) and Gary.

I wondered how people would react to Brian's weak PS vocals, but as we were filing out, all I heard was "That was so good," and "Great show." I had been hesitant to go because I felt I'd seen him enough, and when he vocals were stronger, but I'm glad I went.


Amy, Jeff used to do full band intros and did them very well!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: mikeddonn on April 29, 2017, 01:17:14 AM
I'm wondering if Brian's just bored with Pet Sounds?  Asking cause I just saw this video from the soundcheck from this very tour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d-k31-sn-s
and go to about the 2:15 mark and let it play for a bit..

so the voice is still there, esp. when he's relaxed and he's still into it. Also, his keyboard is definitely audible.


I think it may be Brian "putting people on". We've heard he did things in the past to see what he could get away with!  I think he's bored with it as he can definitely sound a lot better on those songs.  His voice is strong elsewhere in the show.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Sam_BFC on April 29, 2017, 03:27:39 AM
I'm wondering if Brian's just bored with Pet Sounds?  Asking cause I just saw this video from the soundcheck from this very tour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d-k31-sn-s
and go to about the 2:15 mark and let it play for a bit..

so the voice is still there, esp. when he's relaxed and he's still into it. Also, his keyboard is definitely audible.


Billy,

So cool to see BW singing that snippet of HCTN and talking about the disco version with Al.  Thanks a lot for posting.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Amy B. on April 29, 2017, 05:14:07 AM

Amy, Jeff used to do full band intros and did them very well!

I remembered him thanking/naming the band but not the crew. But it's been a while, so I might have forgotten that part.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Amy B. on April 29, 2017, 05:40:52 AM
I'm wondering if Brian's just bored with Pet Sounds?  Asking cause I just saw this video from the soundcheck from this very tour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d-k31-sn-s
and go to about the 2:15 mark and let it play for a bit..

so the voice is still there, esp. when he's relaxed and he's still into it. Also, his keyboard is definitely audible.

Could be boredom. His voice sounded better in the first set, so maybe he's just putting a lot less effort into Pet Sounds. This soundcheck is great. "That voice is still in there!" Seems like Al is just a great person to have on tour-- a beta male that Brian can reminisce with and just generally be relaxed with. No, not disco, Brian.
Oh, the other thing I remember from last night: When Blondie was about to sing Sail On Sailor, he said he has never gotten tired of it and thanked Brian for writing it. Brian just said, "OK, Blondie." Brian doesn't really like SOS, does he?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: B.E. on April 29, 2017, 07:02:42 AM
Al's reaction to the disco version of Here Comes The Night is great!  :lol

woowwwwww! Brian doin' 'here comes the night'. yeahhhh!

I'm wondering if Brian's just bored with Pet Sounds?  Asking cause I just saw this video from the soundcheck from this very tour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d-k31-sn-s
and go to about the 2:15 mark and let it play for a bit..

so the voice is still there, esp. when he's relaxed and he's still into it. Also, his keyboard is definitely audible.

Billy,

So cool to see BW singing that snippet of HCTN and talking about the disco version with Al.  Thanks a lot for posting.

Indeed! Very cool that Al doesn't miss a beat and jumps right in. Has Brian performed this song live? According to this thread the Beach Boys have only performed the Disco version? http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,23435.0.html (http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,23435.0.html)

Anyway, thanks for posting and thanks to Amy B and all those who review the concerts they attend. Always interesting.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on April 29, 2017, 07:14:58 AM
BW and Al talking about Disco! ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 29, 2017, 09:27:49 AM
I'm wondering if Brian's just bored with Pet Sounds?  Asking cause I just saw this video from the soundcheck from this very tour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d-k31-sn-s
and go to about the 2:15 mark and let it play for a bit..

so the voice is still there, esp. when he's relaxed and he's still into it. Also, his keyboard is definitely audible.


Billy,

So cool to see BW singing that snippet of HCTN and talking about the disco version with Al.  Thanks a lot for posting.

Yeah when I saw that clip my heart filled with joy. Couldn't wait to post it


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on April 29, 2017, 09:37:46 AM
woowwwwww! Brian doin' 'here comes the night'. yeahhhh!

 :pirate :rock :h5 :spin :happydance :love :woot :thumbsup :wave :grouphug


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: CenturyDeprived on April 29, 2017, 10:45:47 AM
I'm wondering if Brian's just bored with Pet Sounds?  Asking cause I just saw this video from the soundcheck from this very tour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d-k31-sn-s
and go to about the 2:15 mark and let it play for a bit..

so the voice is still there, esp. when he's relaxed and he's still into it. Also, his keyboard is definitely audible.


Billy,

So cool to see BW singing that snippet of HCTN and talking about the disco version with Al.  Thanks a lot for posting.

Yeah when I saw that clip my heart filled with joy. Couldn't wait to post it

 Oh man, oh man, oh man… So awesome!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 29, 2017, 11:29:48 AM
I'm wondering if Brian's just bored with Pet Sounds?  Asking cause I just saw this video from the soundcheck from this very tour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d-k31-sn-s
and go to about the 2:15 mark and let it play for a bit..

so the voice is still there, esp. when he's relaxed and he's still into it. Also, his keyboard is definitely audible.

Could be boredom. His voice sounded better in the first set, so maybe he's just putting a lot less effort into Pet Sounds. This soundcheck is great. "That voice is still in there!" Seems like Al is just a great person to have on tour-- a beta male that Brian can reminisce with and just generally be relaxed with. No, not disco, Brian.
Oh, the other thing I remember from last night: When Blondie was about to sing Sail On Sailor, he said he has never gotten tired of it and thanked Brian for writing it. Brian just said, "OK, Blondie." Brian doesn't really like SOS, does he?

Looks like it. I know a few years ago he introduced SoS with "I hate this fucking song, too wordy, but anyway here it is".

In this case I must disagree with Brian...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: the captain on April 29, 2017, 01:32:48 PM
I'm wondering if Brian's just bored with Pet Sounds?  Asking cause I just saw this video from the soundcheck from this very tour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d-k31-sn-s
and go to about the 2:15 mark and let it play for a bit..

so the voice is still there, esp. when he's relaxed and he's still into it. Also, his keyboard is definitely audible.

Could be boredom. His voice sounded better in the first set, so maybe he's just putting a lot less effort into Pet Sounds. This soundcheck is great. "That voice is still in there!" Seems like Al is just a great person to have on tour-- a beta male that Brian can reminisce with and just generally be relaxed with. No, not disco, Brian.
Oh, the other thing I remember from last night: When Blondie was about to sing Sail On Sailor, he said he has never gotten tired of it and thanked Brian for writing it. Brian just said, "OK, Blondie." Brian doesn't really like SOS, does he?

Looks like it. I know a few years ago he introduced SoS with "I hate this fucking song, too wordy, but anyway here it is".

In this case I must disagree with Brian...

I probably wrote about it at the time, and so a search of the site could prove my memory is faulty to some degree, but when I saw him on the TLOS tour, I witnessed one of the more bizarre moments of the half dozen or so BW shows I've seen. Brian introduced SOS as a song he didn't really like very much. He actually kind of went off about it, saying he thought it had (if I'm not mistaken) "shitty lyrics," and that in general, he just did not like it. He and Foskett had a little interplay, and while half of me thought it might be almost scripted patter, it felt so awkward after a couple seconds that I thought otherwise. Jeff actually said something like "we don't have to play it, Brian." And he seemed to really mean it. Like an unstated, "if this brings back bad feelings, we can just skip it." And in the end, Brian more or less said "no, whatever, just play the thing."

It was bizarre.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 29, 2017, 03:18:30 PM
That probably is what I was thinking of.I knew it was something along those lines


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: tpesky on April 29, 2017, 06:43:26 PM
I'm wondering if Brian's just bored with Pet Sounds?  Asking cause I just saw this video from the soundcheck from this very tour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d-k31-sn-s
and go to about the 2:15 mark and let it play for a bit..

so the voice is still there, esp. when he's relaxed and he's still into it. Also, his keyboard is definitely audible.

Could be boredom. His voice sounded better in the first set, so maybe he's just putting a lot less effort into Pet Sounds. This soundcheck is great. "That voice is still in there!" Seems like Al is just a great person to have on tour-- a beta male that Brian can reminisce with and just generally be relaxed with. No, not disco, Brian.
Oh, the other thing I remember from last night: When Blondie was about to sing Sail On Sailor, he said he has never gotten tired of it and thanked Brian for writing it. Brian just said, "OK, Blondie." Brian doesn't really like SOS, does he?

I think Al has played an important role in Brian touring since C50 but especially since Jeff left. That's true friendship.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 29, 2017, 08:19:37 PM
I wholeheartedly agree


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Sam_BFC on April 30, 2017, 06:30:47 AM
Regarding SOS, despite the above, remember during C50 Brian did seem to relish *roaring* the "damn the thunder" line ! :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 30, 2017, 09:46:57 AM
Yeah he did... at the show I went he did a growl that wouldn't have been out of place in death metal :lol.

Coughed like hell afterwards but sounded cool!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on April 30, 2017, 09:52:47 AM
Video please! ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 30, 2017, 11:07:53 AM
I wish I had video! Was too busy enjoying the show!



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: GhostyTMRS on April 30, 2017, 05:42:51 PM
I also went to the NJPAC show this past Friday night. I'll echo what others have said:

The band was great. I haven't seen a Brian show since 2004 and I found this particular lineup to be a much looser configuration with less emphasis on replicating the records. That was a strength, actually. I was so glad to hear so much Al Jardine! For me, time stands still when Al sings.

I had no idea how Blondie would fit in with this band and he wound up stealing the show. 

Brian was great throughout the first half of the show. He was in good voice, belted songs out with a lot of gusto and SANG.  It was the complete opposite when it came to the Pet Sounds portion. I agree with what others have said. He seems bored with doing these songs in the same sequence. He spoke/sang kind of like William Shatner. It wasn't a travesty or anything because the band carried him through but hearing Brian speak/sing "Hey, don't talk..put that head on my shoulder" like a finger popping lounge lizard when I was expecting a more gentle treatment was a little confusing.

..and all the more confusing because he went right back to singing great when it came time for the encore. Clearly, something is going on here with the Pet Sounds set. Maybe he's doing the Bob Dylan approach by altering the phrasing to make an old song seem new to the singer. You have to wonder though, why doesn't he feel the same way about "California Girls"?. He's sung that many more times than the Pet Sounds stuff.   


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on May 01, 2017, 06:41:30 AM
I think they're still doing PS because there's a huge demand for it from promoters and venues. Most of this current North American leg consists of markets that didn't get Brian in 2016 or warranted a second night but didn't get it in 2016.

But he's doing to be swinging back around again for most PS in North America again in October. So he's probably doing all PS shows for the rest of this year.

And it does seem like he has tired of the PS material. Look at him go into "Here Comes the Night" in that soundcheck clip. He's beaming. Hopefully they'll add that one and other WH material into the set (and show up Mike in the process; because Brian's band should be running circles around them not only with performance quality but setlist as well).

I do think Brian's potential lack of intense interest in the PS material is mitigated by two instrumentals and Matt and Al doing a decent amount of the vocals, as well as Brian seemingly being very into the non-PS stuff.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on May 03, 2017, 08:39:43 AM
Went to the Wilkes Barre, PA show last night. Very good overall! Setlist.FM is incorrect. Do It Again was not played, but Salt Lake City was.

As others have reported, Brian was definitely more "on" during the first set, although he had some strong moments during Pet Sounds (I'd single out "That's Not Me", "I Know There's An Answer"). His alterations of the lyrics (I'm not even talking about how he sings them - that's another thing entirely) doesn't work though. He must be extremely bored.

Also, I think he should introduce Blondie's set and then leave the stage. Having him just sit there for most of it doesn't look so good. For 95% of Blondie's set, he just zoned out. And left the stage without at least waving goodbye to the audience before the band was done playing SOS. Although he did play a little bit of audible keyboard during Wild Honey and sing during the intro. His voice cut right through the stack, pretty cool. It's really good when he's into participating.

My takeaway from the night was - I'll go see Brian as long as he's touring. His voice is actually killer when he's trying. I'm just always hoping he can try for the duration of the entire show :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: baseball95 on May 03, 2017, 06:11:04 PM
At D.C. Now in intermission, Heroes is back as the opener minus our prayer and She Knows Me Too Well is back with Matt on lead instead of Let Him Run Wild. Blondie absolutely amazing as always. Brian in great spirits introduced the great al jardine at least 5 times including right after Heroes much to Al's amusement.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on May 04, 2017, 11:33:04 AM
Good to see "Heroes" back. Looks like "She Knows Me Too Well" took the place of "Let Him Run Wild." I wonder permanent that will be, or if they'll swap them in and out as the tour progresses:

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/lincoln-theatre-washington-dc-be65db2.html


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on May 04, 2017, 11:35:50 AM
I've also updated the setlists in the first/top post.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on May 04, 2017, 07:51:09 PM
Sounds like I missed a good one! Oh well, hope all went well tonight!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: CosmicDancer on May 07, 2017, 05:54:54 AM
I was at the show in Knoxville, TN last night.  I hadn't seen Brian since the 2004 SMiLE tour, so naturally, I was pretty pumped.  The first set was fantastic. Brian seemed engaged and was taking a big part in the backing vocals when not taking the lead vocal role. The band was great as always. Al never ceases to amaze me. He still sounds amazing. Matt Jardine did a fantastic job handling the falsetto parts. Blondie was fun to watch and did a great job vocally, but his lead guitar breaks, other than the one on Feel Flows which was good, weren't great. Maybe I'm being overly critical being a guitarist myself, but he was sloppy and way loud in the mix. Regardless, I'm glad he was there. No "Love You" songs, unfortunately.  We did get killer versions of Wake the World and Let Him Run Wild.

As many have noted, Brian took many liberties with the lead vocal melodies in the "Pet Sounds" set, which was frustrating. It's not that he can't do it as the first set plainly showed. I just think he must be over touring this album after so long and is slicing things up for himself. Either that or just going through the motions on it. The band was fantastic musically and vocally in this set. Totally made up for Brian's shortcomings in this section.

Last set was the big hits you'd expect performed extremely well. Brian was in very good form again.

Great show overall. Happy early birthday to me!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 07, 2017, 09:45:54 AM
I was at the show in Knoxville, TN last night.  I hadn't seen Brian since the 2004 SMiLE tour, so naturally, I was pretty pumped.  The first set was fantastic. Brian seemed engaged and was taking a big part in the backing vocals when not taking the lead vocal role. The band was great as always. Al never ceases to amaze me. He still sounds amazing. Matt Jardine did a fantastic job handling the falsetto parts. Blondie was fun to watch and did a great job vocally, but his lead guitar breaks, other than the one on Feel Flows which was good, weren't great. Maybe I'm being overly critical being a guitarist myself, but he was sloppy and way loud in the mix. Regardless, I'm glad he was there. No "Love You" songs, unfortunately.  We did get killer versions of Wake the World and Let Him Run Wild.

As many have noted, Brian took many liberties with the lead vocal melodies in the "Pet Sounds" set, which was frustrating. It's not that he can't do it as the first set plainly showed. I just think he must be over touring this album after so long and is slicing things up for himself. Either that or just going through the motions on it. The band was fantastic musically and vocally in this set. Totally made up for Brian's shortcomings in this section.

Last set was the big hits you'd expect performed extremely well. Brian was in very good form again.

Great show overall. Happy early birthday to me!

I saw Brian last year and I also picked up on that it seemed Brian was a bit burnt out on some of the Pet Sounds performance judging from his vocals.  Which is kinda surprising since he says it is his greatest work.  But I guess if you do something so much for so long its bound to happen.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on May 07, 2017, 09:59:59 AM
From the shows Ive been to the last few years, Brian seems to prefer the more up beat material.  Often yelling things like "we're gonna do some rocking for you!!!!"


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: GuyO on May 09, 2017, 09:44:40 AM
Does anyone have a link to the new october dates? They're not on brianwilson.com in spite of a link from the official twitter account.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Marty Castillo on May 09, 2017, 10:33:41 AM
Does anyone have a link to the new october dates? They're not on brianwilson.com in spite of a link from the official twitter account.

It appears you can see the new dates here:  http://www.brianwilson.com/news/


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on May 09, 2017, 10:44:16 AM
$150 for Lancaster? No thanks...I'll be sitting out this leg too. Very fond memories of my two pet sounds shows last year!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on May 09, 2017, 12:38:20 PM
I've added the new dates to the top post. For some reason they have the dates on the news page but not the tour dates page.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: marcella27 on May 09, 2017, 12:54:21 PM
I've added the new dates to the top post. For some reason they have the dates on the news page but not the tour dates page.

Hallelujah...more dates. 
How do the live nation and "local" presales work?  Do they require codes?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on May 09, 2017, 01:13:15 PM
I've added the new dates to the top post. For some reason they have the dates on the news page but not the tour dates page.

Hallelujah...more dates. 
How do the live nation and "local" presales work?  Do they require codes?

Usually. Sometimes they send the codes out via email.

But keep in mind that a lot of presales only set aside a certain block of seats. So you have less competition during presales but less tickets to choose from. So you're not always guaranteed the best seats.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Margarita on May 09, 2017, 05:01:32 PM
The Rosemont, IL show has three presales that started this morning - about 20 minutes after the BW FB page posted about the new shows:
1.  WXRT - okay, the password was probably something that went out to their newsletter subscribers
2.  Venue - ditto
3.  Brian Wilson Facebook Fans - huh?  There was no mention of a password on FB.  BW.com doesn't even list these shows yet!

Yeah, the general sale is on Friday and i'm sure I'll snag tix then.  But I wanted to get the ticket-buying over with now.  Does anyone have any of these presale codes, or even codes for other venues?  Often the same code will work with multiple venues - it's worth a try.  If you can help a sister out, please PM me. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: marcella27 on May 10, 2017, 07:08:34 AM
The Rosemont, IL show has three presales that started this morning - about 20 minutes after the BW FB page posted about the new shows:
1.  WXRT - okay, the password was probably something that went out to their newsletter subscribers
2.  Venue - ditto
3.  Brian Wilson Facebook Fans - huh?  There was no mention of a password on FB.  BW.com doesn't even list these shows yet!

Yeah, the general sale is on Friday and i'm sure I'll snag tix then.  But I wanted to get the ticket-buying over with now.  Does anyone have any of these presale codes, or even codes for other venues?  Often the same code will work with multiple venues - it's worth a try.  If you can help a sister out, please PM me. 

I just took a guess for the New York show Live Nation - and it worked - the code is petsounds


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Mayoman on May 11, 2017, 02:57:03 PM
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Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 11, 2017, 05:15:38 PM
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I'm partial to the semicolon, but to each his own


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on May 13, 2017, 10:31:01 AM
$150 for Lancaster? No thanks...I'll be sitting out this leg too. Very fond memories of my two pet sounds shows last year!

Wow, hard to believe less than two years ago, I got 2nd row seats at Mont College for $60 ir so each.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on May 13, 2017, 10:46:44 AM
Couldn't go last night as I had to work :( hopefully somebody else was there from the board...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on May 13, 2017, 11:35:01 AM
$150 for Lancaster? No thanks...I'll be sitting out this leg too. Very fond memories of my two pet sounds shows last year!

Wow, hard to believe less than two years ago, I got 2nd row seats at Mont College for $60 ir so each.

I had the student price in the 2nd row there...fifteen bucks!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on May 13, 2017, 12:35:07 PM
$150 for Lancaster? No thanks...I'll be sitting out this leg too. Very fond memories of my two pet sounds shows last year!

Wow, hard to believe less than two years ago, I got 2nd row seats at Mont College for $60 ir so each.

I had the student price in the 2nd row there...fifteen bucks!

Dang. Cant beat that. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on May 15, 2017, 06:26:13 AM
Re: Ticket prices; a lot of factors tend to be at play, and geographical region is one of them. I did a break down on a previous Brian tour (2015 I believe), and some regions have exponentially higher ticket prices than others. Sometimes it's because a region is a more metropolitan, populated region. Sometimes it's due to the higher-end venue.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on May 15, 2017, 09:16:49 AM
$150 for Lancaster? No thanks...I'll be sitting out this leg too. Very fond memories of my two pet sounds shows last year!

Wow, hard to believe less than two years ago, I got 2nd row seats at Mont College for $60 ir so each.

I had the student price in the 2nd row there...fifteen bucks!

Once in a lifetime for sure.

Dang. Cant beat that. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on May 15, 2017, 09:19:16 AM
Re: Ticket prices; a lot of factors tend to be at play, and geographical region is one of them. I did a break down on a previous Brian tour (2015 I believe), and some regions have exponentially higher ticket prices than others. Sometimes it's because a region is a more metropolitan, populated region. Sometimes it's due to the higher-end venue.

I personally know that the American Music Theatre has been trying to get Brian Wlison for a very long time. Mike and Bruce play there at least once a year. This will sell out in no time just like Mike's shows do. However, there are going to be a lot of old country bumpkin fuddy-duddies that are totally confused as to what the hell is happening. I've been to many different shows there and it is always the same old crowd. They will be perplexed by Brian, offended by Blondie, and bored with Pet Sounds. On the plus side, they'll love the huge band and if the father-son duo is well represented, they'll eat that up too along with all the big hits.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on May 15, 2017, 09:54:59 AM
Apologies if it was mentioned earlier, but it appears Darian is back on the Brian tour at the moment, and thus "Darlin'" returned, at least for the 5/12 show. It also looks like the last week or two "Do You Wanna Dance" has made a return to some degree.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on May 15, 2017, 09:59:15 AM
Updated the setlists in the top post. Looks like, for the two Austin shows, they did the same thing they did for the two-night run in Washington DC and at least swapped a few songs out, doing the rarely-performed (for this tour) "Heroes and Villains" and "She Knows Me Too Well."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: hideyotsuburaya on May 16, 2017, 10:44:05 AM
if brian and his band's performing this show today will he forget?

to mention today is the 51st anniversary date of the original LP's release


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: VanDykeParksAndRec on May 17, 2017, 11:32:39 AM
if brian and his band's performing this show today will he forget?

to mention today is the 51st anniversary date of the original LP's release

They didn't mention it! A little suprising haha

The show was phenomenal.  I've seen Brian 4 times over the past 3-4 years and this was the best.  I was worried because the show last fall was the worst.  Darian wasn't there last time, and I was worried when I found he was with the Zombies...

So glad he rejoined the 12th, no Darling performed, but I like his voice in the stack and energy he brings.  He and Gary Griffin were just having a blast.

Brian sang more this show than any show prior, and I mean sang.  Some of his vocals are what one has come to expect, but throughout the set, ESPECIALLY the Pet Sounds tracks, he really dug in.  There was some grit to his voice, an audible return to 15BO/Love You voicing, nearly beyond my belief.  My wife pointed out the same, enough verification for me.   I still smile just thinking about it.

So glad I saw him for a second show this tour, and on May 16th to boot.  It's hard telling what contributes to a varingly engaged BW, but there was no suggestion of tiring or becoming disengaged with the material.

Only difference between this show and Detroit last year was "Feel Flows" which was such and treat too Ellington hear live, you can certainly tell Blondie's respect for Carl in the performance.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Debbie KL on May 17, 2017, 12:43:05 PM
if brian and his band's performing this show today will he forget?

to mention today is the 51st anniversary date of the original LP's release

They didn't mention it! A little suprising haha

The show was phenomenal.  I've seen Brian 4 times over the past 3-4 years and this was the best.  I was worried because the show last fall was the worst.  Darian wasn't there last time, and I was worried when I found he was with the Zombies...

So glad he rejoined the 12th, no Darling performed, but I like his voice in the stack and energy he brings.  He and Gary Griffin were just having a blast.

Brian sang more this show than any show prior, and I mean sang.  Some of his vocals are what one has come to expect, but throughout the set, ESPECIALLY the Pet Sounds tracks, he really dug in.  There was some grit to his voice, an audible return to 15BO/Love You voicing, nearly beyond my belief.  My wife pointed out the same, enough verification for me.   I still smile just thinking about it.

So glad I saw him for a second show this tour, and on May 16th to boot.  It's hard telling what contributes to a varingly engaged BW, but there was no suggestion of tiring or becoming disengaged with the material.

Only difference between this show and Detroit last year was "Feel Flows" which was such and treat too Ellington hear live, you can certainly tell Blondie's respect for Carl in the performance.

So great to learn.  I was impressed with how well Brian was singing back in April.

I will probably embarrass myself here, because hard-core fans who've been on MB's know far more details than I.  Is it well-known that Sally Parks, in the early years of the their marriage, used to answer the phone "Parks and Recreation?"  If so, my apologies for not knowing what's "known".  If not, I always loved that.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: VanDykeParksAndRec on May 17, 2017, 02:06:37 PM
I had no idea of that Debbie! I was watching Parks and Recreation at work when I made this account haha

Good to know though


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on May 17, 2017, 02:18:04 PM
:lol That's awesome


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Dwayne on May 17, 2017, 04:19:45 PM
if brian and his band's performing this show today will he forget?

to mention today is the 51st anniversary date of the original LP's release

My wife and I attended the Tulsa, OK show and was very surprised there was no mention of the Pet Sounds' release anniversary.  We saw Brian and the band last year down in Dallas TX.  The biggest difference between now and then was last year Brian was still attempting to sing his Pet Sounds album still and was as usual hit and miss but this year it felt like a heavy burden for him to perform this album and gave more lead vocals to Matt and Alan on several songs.  Brian seemed much more interested in doing the songs outside the PS album I will say.  It was great to hear more lead vocals from Alan as his voice still sounds great plus I never got the opportunity to see him when he toured his own band years ago.  I love seeing Brian in the flesh but as far as performing, it just didn't seem like his heart is in it anymore or maybe he was just having an "off" night.  I loved hearing "Feel Flows" as I've never heard it live before and also "Let Him Run Wild" which Matt did a great job on.  Overall, I loved the show, the band was great as always and if Brian still really wants to tour then at least they're doing the right thing and giving the band more and more lead vocals and Brian is still with us.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: cpeck on May 20, 2017, 06:36:47 AM
Regarding SOS, despite the above, remember during C50 Brian did seem to relish *roaring* the "damn the thunder" line ! :lol

Any YouTube clips? Would love to see/hear it.

I have tickets for Halifax and Moncton - five times seeing him in this extended tour.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on May 23, 2017, 08:46:33 AM
Updated more setlists on the top post. Nothing new, though "She Knows Me Too Well" got swapped in on a recent show.

Curious why Al hasn't rotated anything in at least from time to time in place of "California Saga." I think they did 'Honkin'" like once or twice early in the tour. But no "Then I Kissed Her" or "Cottonfields" for quite some time now.

Still hoping they whip out some "Wild Honey" stuff. Brian on "Here Comes the Night" could sound pretty great.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Eric Aniversario on May 25, 2017, 01:49:22 AM
if brian and his band's performing this show today will he forget?

to mention today is the 51st anniversary date of the original LP's release

My wife and I attended the Tulsa, OK show and was very surprised there was no mention of the Pet Sounds' release anniversary.  We saw Brian and the band last year down in Dallas TX.  The biggest difference between now and then was last year Brian was still attempting to sing his Pet Sounds album still and was as usual hit and miss but this year it felt like a heavy burden for him to perform this album and gave more lead vocals to Matt and Alan on several songs.  Brian seemed much more interested in doing the songs outside the PS album I will say.  It was great to hear more lead vocals from Alan as his voice still sounds great plus I never got the opportunity to see him when he toured his own band years ago.  I love seeing Brian in the flesh but as far as performing, it just didn't seem like his heart is in it anymore or maybe he was just having an "off" night.  I loved hearing "Feel Flows" as I've never heard it live before and also "Let Him Run Wild" which Matt did a great job on.  Overall, I loved the show, the band was great as always and if Brian still really wants to tour then at least they're doing the right thing and giving the band more and more lead vocals and Brian is still with us.

I went to the San Diego show tonight, and even without reading this review prior, I noticed Brian's almost compete disengagement from the Pet Sounds album. He was talk-singing most of it and dropped out before the end of the song several times. He seemed much more interested in the other material. Perhaps the Pet Sounds tour has gone on too long. I'd like to see him incorporate more solo material; he has a huge solo catalog that he could draw from.

Overall the show was enjoyable, but Brian's disengagement from Pet Sounds was probably apparent to the majority in attendance. There were several cool semi rarities: Feel Flows, Salt Lake City, Let Him Run Wild, and Wake The World. Brian changed the lyrics (as he often has recently) to Love & Mercy.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on May 25, 2017, 06:32:36 AM
It's ironic that Brian seems more disengaged from the PS material than a typical/random show from past years, yet *more* engaged by the first set of songs than recent times. It's almost like, if they could jettison the PS set and do more stuff that Brian's into, it would be a mind-blowingly high-energy show for Brian.

I'd have to think anyone would be kind of sick of a full album night after night after they're up to probably over 130 performances since last year. They've got roughly over 40 shows to go on this tour.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Marty Castillo on May 25, 2017, 07:58:37 AM
It's ironic that Brian seems more disengaged from the PS material than a typical/random show from past years, yet *more* engaged by the first set of songs than recent times. It's almost like, if they could jettison the PS set and do more stuff that Brian's into, it would be a mind-blowingly high-energy show for Brian.

I'd have to think anyone would be kind of sick of a full album night after night after they're up to probably over 130 performances since last year. They've got roughly over 40 shows to go on this tour.



I agree to a certain extent, but it's not like some of the other well worn hits aren't trotted out night after night. Why is he bored of performing Pet Sounds, but not California Girls, Good Vibrations, the hot rod and surfing hits?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on May 25, 2017, 08:46:37 AM
It's ironic that Brian seems more disengaged from the PS material than a typical/random show from past years, yet *more* engaged by the first set of songs than recent times. It's almost like, if they could jettison the PS set and do more stuff that Brian's into, it would be a mind-blowingly high-energy show for Brian.

I'd have to think anyone would be kind of sick of a full album night after night after they're up to probably over 130 performances since last year. They've got roughly over 40 shows to go on this tour.



I agree to a certain extent, but it's not like some of the other well worn hits aren't trotted out night after night. Why is he bored of performing Pet Sounds, but not California Girls, Good Vibrations, the hot rod and surfing hits?

Good question.   Maybe because he has less leads then on the rest of the show...? I honestly don't know.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on May 25, 2017, 09:13:28 AM
Maybe it has more to do with the sequencing of the actual show itself and less to do with the specific songs? He's probably tired of knowing that the second set is going to happen exactly the same way night after night because that is specifically what people are paying money to see on the tour.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: JK on May 25, 2017, 09:33:44 AM
But would anyone really object if he changed tack mid tour? Say if he started doing only a selection from PS (which might change nightly), interspersed with everything else? I very much doubt it. Surely most of his audience are only too happy to see their idol alive and reasonably well. And enjoying himself making music with his band.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on May 25, 2017, 09:39:42 AM
But would anyone really object if he changed tack mid tour? Say if he started doing only a selection from PS (which might change nightly), interspersed with everything else? I very much doubt it. Surely most of his audience are only too happy to see their idol alive and reasonably well. And enjoying himself making music with his band.

In most cases, shows and tickets and venues don't warranty *what* will be played. So if Brian was just doing a regular tour, he could come out and open with "Slow Ride" and then play the entire "Appetite for Destruction" album and then leave the stage.

*However*, that's not the case on this tour. The shows are being sold to promoters as "Pet Sounds" shows, with the promotional info often specifically stating the album will be played in full. So they are warrantying both to promoters and ticket buyers that they're getting the full album. This is borne out by the fact that for shows last year and this year where they've had to play a shortened set (festivals, some casino venues, etc.), they shorten the *first* set and then still do PS in full.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on May 25, 2017, 09:59:00 AM
But would anyone really object if he changed tack mid tour? Say if he started doing only a selection from PS (which might change nightly), interspersed with everything else? I very much doubt it. Surely most of his audience are only too happy to see their idol alive and reasonably well. And enjoying himself making music with his band.

In most cases, shows and tickets and venues don't warranty *what* will be played. So if Brian was just doing a regular tour, he could come out and open with "Slow Ride" and then play the entire "Appetite for Destruction" album and then leave the stage.

*However*, that's not the case on this tour. The shows are being sold to promoters as "Pet Sounds" shows, with the promotional info often specifically stating the album will be played in full. So they are warrantying both to promoters and ticket buyers that they're getting the full album. This is borne out by the fact that for shows last year and this year where they've had to play a shortened set (festivals, some casino venues, etc.), they shorten the *first* set and then still do PS in full.

Exactly.

Crazy, I know you were kidding but ironically enough my daughter made a comment a few days ago about Brian singing Slow Ride :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on May 25, 2017, 10:52:47 AM
But would anyone really object if he changed tack mid tour? Say if he started doing only a selection from PS (which might change nightly), interspersed with everything else? I very much doubt it. Surely most of his audience are only too happy to see their idol alive and reasonably well. And enjoying himself making music with his band.

In most cases, shows and tickets and venues don't warranty *what* will be played. So if Brian was just doing a regular tour, he could come out and open with "Slow Ride" and then play the entire "Appetite for Destruction" album and then leave the stage.

*However*, that's not the case on this tour. The shows are being sold to promoters as "Pet Sounds" shows, with the promotional info often specifically stating the album will be played in full. So they are warrantying both to promoters and ticket buyers that they're getting the full album. This is borne out by the fact that for shows last year and this year where they've had to play a shortened set (festivals, some casino venues, etc.), they shorten the *first* set and then still do PS in full.

Exactly.

Crazy, I know you were kidding but ironically enough my daughter made a comment a few days ago about Brian singing Slow Ride :lol

Heck, I'd rather hear Brian cover "Slow Ride" than a Jerry Lee Lewis or Chuck Berry song at this stage. So have at it Brian! Throw in some ELO for good measure.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Terry on May 25, 2017, 11:08:43 AM
From the show I saw last year and clips I've seen, I really get the feeling that this his "quiet" form of protesting this tour.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Cabinessenceking on May 25, 2017, 11:29:45 AM
A recent Brian concert titled "Baloise session" showed up on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyS3HrSfzuE&ab_channel=MusicoN (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyS3HrSfzuE&ab_channel=MusicoN)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on May 25, 2017, 11:38:06 AM
....


https://youtu.be/GyS3HrSfzuE?t=1708


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on May 25, 2017, 12:55:59 PM
But would anyone really object if he changed tack mid tour? Say if he started doing only a selection from PS (which might change nightly), interspersed with everything else? I very much doubt it. Surely most of his audience are only too happy to see their idol alive and reasonably well. And enjoying himself making music with his band.

In most cases, shows and tickets and venues don't warranty *what* will be played. So if Brian was just doing a regular tour, he could come out and open with "Slow Ride" and then play the entire "Appetite for Destruction" album and then leave the stage.

*However*, that's not the case on this tour. The shows are being sold to promoters as "Pet Sounds" shows, with the promotional info often specifically stating the album will be played in full. So they are warrantying both to promoters and ticket buyers that they're getting the full album. This is borne out by the fact that for shows last year and this year where they've had to play a shortened set (festivals, some casino venues, etc.), they shorten the *first* set and then still do PS in full.

Exactly.

Crazy, I know you were kidding but ironically enough my daughter made a comment a few days ago about Brian singing Slow Ride :lol

Heck, I'd rather hear Brian cover "Slow Ride" than a Jerry Lee Lewis or Chuck Berry song at this stage. So have at it Brian! Throw in some ELO for good measure.

Ha! ELO is one of Jaymie's favorite bands, and "Strange Magic" is her favorite song by anybody. ..


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on May 25, 2017, 01:37:33 PM
I think "slow ride" should play as BW enters the stage with his shuffle to the piano! ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Peter Reum on May 25, 2017, 02:41:00 PM
I have not been to a Brian show since 2008. Reviews of his shows on this Pet Sounds Tour seem to lean toward "grading on a curve." Brian has verbalized a desire to record a "rock and roll album." At this point on his life, his needs should be attended to closely. His shows on the first Pet Sounds, Smile, and Lucky Old Sun tours were stellar in quality. But then...he was in his early to mid 60s.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on May 25, 2017, 02:43:14 PM
I think "slow ride" should play as BW enters the stage with his shuffle to the piano! ;D

:D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Robbie Mac on May 26, 2017, 09:44:28 AM
Maybe he has fonder memories of pre-PS at this stage in his life. I remember Bob Hanes before he died wishing that the Fun-In-The-Sun era was treated with as much reverence as PS and SMiLE.  Bob also used to worry that Brian was being typecast as the "PS and SMiLE Guy" when the catalog as a whole has such great depth.
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It's ironic that Brian seems more disengaged from the PS material than a typical/random show from past years, yet *more* engaged by the first set of songs than recent times. It's almost like, if they could jettison the PS set and do more stuff that Brian's into, it would be a mind-blowingly high-energy show for Brian.

I'd have to think anyone would be kind of sick of a full album night after night after they're up to probably over 130 performances since last year. They've got roughly over 40 shows to go on this tour.



Maybe he has fonder memories of pre-PS at this stage in his life. I remember Bob Hanes before he died wishing that the Fun-In-The-Sun era was treated with as much reverence as PS and SMiLE.  Bob also used to worry that Brian was being typecast as the "PS and SMiLE Guy" when the catalog as a whole has such great depth.

I agree to a certain extent, but it's not like some of the other well worn hits aren't trotted out night after night. Why is he bored of performing Pet Sounds, but not California Girls, Good Vibrations, the hot rod and surfing hits?

Good question.   Maybe because he has less leads then on the rest of the show...? I honestly don't know.
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Maybe he has fonder memories of pre-PS at this stage in his life. I remember Bob Hanes before he died wishing that the Fun-In-The-Sun era was treated with as much reverence as PS and SMiLE.  Bob also used to worry that Brian was being typecast as the "PS and SMiLE Guy" when the catalog as a whole has such great depth.




Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on May 26, 2017, 09:52:50 AM
I remember in the mid-2000s when Brian started doing songs for the first time like "Shut Down", some fans complained, and I pointed out that one has to remember that Brian *wasn't* on tour for most of all of those years when the touring BBs were running through those hits over and over. Mike Kowalski and Ed Carter and Mike Meros had played some of those songs more times than Brian had. So I think it was (and is) cool for him to reclaim in a sense even those early songs that he had a hand in as well.

So that lack of being as worn out on those songs, coupled with indeed perhaps fondly remembering that early era, is probably part of the reason Brian digs those songs for concerts. He has also mentioned that he isn't into singing the verbose songs these days like "Surf's Up" and "Busy Doin' Nothin'", so that might also be a reason he's more likely to do early stuff as opposed to later-era stuff.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on May 26, 2017, 11:37:10 AM
I remember in the mid-2000s when Brian started doing songs for the first time like "Shut Down", some fans complained, and I pointed out that one has to remember that Brian *wasn't* on tour for most of all of those years when the touring BBs were running through those hits over and over. Mike Kowalski and Ed Carter and Mike Meros had played some of those songs more times than Brian had. So I think it was (and is) cool for him to reclaim in a sense even those early songs that he had a hand in as well.

So that lack of being as worn out on those songs, coupled with indeed perhaps fondly remembering that early era, is probably part of the reason Brian digs those songs for concerts. He has also mentioned that he isn't into singing the verbose songs these days like "Surf's Up" and "Busy Doin' Nothin'", so that might also be a reason he's more likely to do early stuff as opposed to later-era stuff.

Good point. He's said the same thing about Sail On Sailor, too.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: baseball95 on May 26, 2017, 11:44:58 AM
I remember in the mid-2000s when Brian started doing songs for the first time like "Shut Down", some fans complained, and I pointed out that one has to remember that Brian *wasn't* on tour for most of all of those years when the touring BBs were running through those hits over and over. Mike Kowalski and Ed Carter and Mike Meros had played some of those songs more times than Brian had. So I think it was (and is) cool for him to reclaim in a sense even those early songs that he had a hand in as well.

So that lack of being as worn out on those songs, coupled with indeed perhaps fondly remembering that early era, is probably part of the reason Brian digs those songs for concerts. He has also mentioned that he isn't into singing the verbose songs these days like "Surf's Up" and "Busy Doin' Nothin'", so that might also be a reason he's more likely to do early stuff as opposed to later-era stuff.

Good point. He's said the same thing about Sail On Sailor, too.
Also probably explains why The Night Was So Young was cut so quickly as well.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on May 26, 2017, 11:58:41 AM
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Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Mr. Wilson on May 28, 2017, 10:09:09 PM
went to the BW concert 5 27 17 pantages th hollywood ca... OUTSTANDING  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..  Brian and the band were on FIRE..!! Opened with H+V..  New songs played ive never heard live.. Feel Flows.. She knows me too well..Salt lake city.. Car medley with  Al on lead vocals.. LDC shut down honda.. .. Great to also hear.. Wake the world.. Add some music.. California.. Do you wanna dance.... BW sang the whole show with hardly any talk/singing like i heard in Indio ca 1st date of tour... Nick is using a Bass//Guitar ? on PS on a few cuts.. Looks like a Jaguar body with a long neck.. With a more treble bass sound than Bob Lizick and playing different lines as Bob..  The pantages is a very uncomfortable place to see a show..Seats are very small and no room between rows to speak of.. I will NEVER go to that venue EVER again..period


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ryan9699 on May 29, 2017, 07:29:31 PM
Does anyone know how strict they are being about the meet and greet? I know he is only signing books, but I was wondering if I'd get in trouble for bringing a Pet Sounds cd and a sharpie to get a signature from Brian and or Al. Maybe if I'm just a kid they'll cut me some slack??? :-D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Eric Aniversario on May 30, 2017, 12:21:58 AM
went to the BW concert 5 27 17 pantages th hollywood ca... OUTSTANDING  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..  Brian and the band were on FIRE..!! Opened with H+V..  New songs played ive never heard live.. Feel Flows.. She knows me too well..Salt lake city.. Car medley with  Al on lead vocals.. LDC shut down honda.. .. Great to also hear.. Wake the world.. Add some music.. California.. Do you wanna dance.... BW sang the whole show with hardly any talk/singing like i heard in Indio ca 1st date of tour... Nick is using a Bass//Guitar ? on PS on a few cuts.. Looks like a Jaguar body with a long neck.. With a more treble bass sound than Bob Lizick and playing different lines as Bob..  The pantages is a very uncomfortable place to see a show..Seats are very small and no room between rows to speak of.. I will NEVER go to that venue EVER again..period

I'm glad to hear that Brian was singing more than he was at the San Diego show.  I really am rooting for him to do well and to enjoy touring. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on June 15, 2017, 12:36:05 PM
Updated some setlists in the top post, and also added one new date, a late August date in Lincoln, CA that is curiously right in the middle of the break between the end of the European leg and the final North American leg. I'm curious if more dates around that time frame will be announced. Normally I'd say yes, but they apparently do sometimes book one single show in the middle of a month or longer break, as evidenced by tonight's show in Honolulu.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Zesterz on June 15, 2017, 12:41:00 PM
Be nice if some of the breaks meant a new album being recorded


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: jiggy22 on June 15, 2017, 10:26:38 PM
Does anyone know how strict they are being about the meet and greet? I know he is only signing books, but I was wondering if I'd get in trouble for bringing a Pet Sounds cd and a sharpie to get a signature from Brian and or Al. Maybe if I'm just a kid they'll cut me some slack??? :-D

It wouldn't hurt to try! What would they do, confiscate your CD and kick you out? Listen, I got VIP tickets about a year ago when Brian was still doing personal signings. I considered bringing my vinyl copy of SMiLE to get Brian and Al to sign. But I decided not to at the last moment because I didn't want to hold it the entire concert. That is now my biggest regret in life. I could have gotten my most favorite album signed by my musical idol, but I chose not to because I was being lazy. This is the kind of thing that keeps you up at 2:00 in the morning! BUT I digress.

Bottom line, yeah, bring the CD!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on June 17, 2017, 08:40:00 AM
Okay, so the Honolulu setlist has been posted:

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/neal-s-blaisdell-concert-hall-honolulu-hi-1be4b57c.html

Is it possible they really didn't do "Help Me Rhonda?" If so, it might be the first full length gig Al has done since the 60s or 70s where Rhonda wasn't performed.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on June 17, 2017, 07:40:01 PM
...that can't possibly be right.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on July 05, 2017, 12:45:04 PM
It's only 9:45 in the Netherlands right now, and this setlist appears to be a bit garbled and possibly being updated as the show continues, but *IF* this is accurate, it appears Brian may have added "Aren't You Glad" to the setlist this evening:

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/tivolivredenburg-grote-zaal-utrecht-netherlands-63e42a9f.html


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: GuyO on July 05, 2017, 03:35:29 PM
True. https://youtu.be/rRe5Ys-fMDg


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 05, 2017, 04:54:03 PM
Wow


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Wrightfan on July 05, 2017, 05:33:03 PM
Here's the whole audio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQZupHIDZj0


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on July 05, 2017, 05:56:00 PM
Matt sounds fantastic on that!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on July 05, 2017, 09:18:03 PM
so does Darian!  love that dude!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: NateRuvin on July 06, 2017, 07:13:43 PM
I think its so cool that both Brian's band and Mike's band are playing "Aren't You Glad".  :smokin


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on July 07, 2017, 07:55:48 PM
Very cool! Brian sounds uncertain at times, but it's just the debut. There's time for comfort to come. Matt NAILS it!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Lowbacca on July 09, 2017, 12:14:05 PM
Anyone going to the FRankfurt show on July 19th? :3d


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll on July 10, 2017, 03:26:37 AM
Anyone going to the FRankfurt show on July 19th? :3d

I am. After much procrastination and checking out flight options for nearly every other date I finally booked it on Sunday.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Lowbacca on July 11, 2017, 12:40:49 PM
Anyone going to the FRankfurt show on July 19th? :3d

I am. After much procrastination and checking out flight options for nearly every other date I finally booked it on Sunday.
Cool. Where are you from? Maybe we'll have time for a beer (or two) before/after the show.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Jukka on July 13, 2017, 03:41:32 AM
Today in Finland, Pori Jazz Festival. Anyone from this board attending? I'll be there/here.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Jukka on July 15, 2017, 10:51:13 AM
Well, I was in Pori, and I loved every minute of. Especially the minutes when Brian performed. It was cold and raining most of the time, but as Brian said, "a little downpour won't hurt ya" (or something like that).

They played one 1,5 hour long set, first deepish cuts, then PS and finishing with some sweet rockin' hits. On a positive note, the band was MUCH more together than the last time I saw Brian (London, May 2016). I mean, playing and singing were out of this world. Al was amazing, Darian did great on Darlin', you know the score... Some people were a bit baffled by Blondie's contributions, like "who is this guy and what is he doing to these songs". Personally, I found his slot refreshing. His guitar playing injected a hefty dose of avant garde noise shredding to Wild Honey, I'd say it was the closest to Captain Beefheart I've heard in any Beach Boys related concert. Blondie's a great guy, not out to please but to kick ass and terrorize bourgeoisie!

As for Brian himself, he was more into it and engaged than I've ever seen him. I especially loved his introduction to Pet Sounds title track: "On the guitar, Nicky Wonder... On the drums... The drums are GREAT!" But I have to admit, his singing has gone downhill quite a bit. When he sang harmony he was spot on, but when he took leads, his phrasing was rather breathless and gruff, long notes cut short and rhytmically all over the place... But then again, it was a jazz festival, and in a way he just jazzified it. It made singing along quite difficult, with rhytmic curveballs coming all the time. I didn't mind, though!

And hey: you COULD hear Brian's piano and Al's guitar loud and clear, and they both really know what they're doing. Especially Al... What a rhytm guitarist! He was perfectly in the pocket all the time, and he really added to the sound. My hero.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: B.E. on July 15, 2017, 11:07:18 AM
"On the guitar, Nicky Wonder... On the drums... The drums are GREAT!"

 :lol gotta love it! Thanks for taking the time to review the show.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Debbie KL on July 15, 2017, 11:30:28 AM
"On the guitar, Nicky Wonder... On the drums... The drums are GREAT!"

 :lol gotta love it! Thanks for taking the time to review the show.

Thx so much for the review.  I can't imagine anyone being disappointed in Brian and band.  It's genius with the best artists delivering. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Lowbacca on July 15, 2017, 01:29:53 PM
Thanks for the report, Jukka! :-D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Marty Castillo on July 16, 2017, 04:19:54 PM
God Only Knows from last night:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMM60Mq7jaU


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: orange22 on July 16, 2017, 04:33:58 PM
Blondie's a great guy, not out to please but to kick ass and terrorize bourgeoisie!

Jukka, that's a wonderful phrase.

I saw the soundcheck for one of the shows a month or so ago, and Blondie was incredible. He sang both Long Promised Road and Feel Flows, and the performances were sensitive and beautiful. So glad I got to witness that.

When they performed the actual show Blondie went a bit too crazy for me personally, but I fully stand behind Jukka's assessment.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: tpesky on July 16, 2017, 07:29:28 PM
I can't make up my mind whether I'm ok with Brian's recent interpretations of singing some songs or I hate it. At points it works, at other points it doesn't sound great.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on July 16, 2017, 08:42:51 PM
Blondie's a great guy, not out to please but to kick ass and terrorize bourgeoisie!

I hear some complaints about him but he was well received down here in New Orleans. He got a standing O after Wild Honey.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on July 16, 2017, 09:53:48 PM
I don't know how anyone could not like Blondie...I wish he was in the show MORE!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on July 17, 2017, 12:22:17 AM
I don't know how anyone could not like Blondie...I wish he was in the show MORE!

I like me some Blondie, but glad he is 'Not' in more of the show.
He just comes across like a dancing orang-utan for me, which is somewhat
quite the opposite of Brian.  Guess that's probably the point of his prescience.
 ::)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on July 17, 2017, 04:03:20 AM
I don't know how anyone could not like Blondie...I wish he was in the show MORE!

Same here.  He adds a nice element of rock and roll and showmanship.  I'd love to see them do more songs from Blondie's era.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on July 17, 2017, 11:28:50 AM
I think one either "gets" Blondie and what he brings to the show, or doesn't. I don't think even those who want more Blondie are suggesting Blondie should start shredding a guitar solo in the middle of "Please Let Me Wonder."

Much as a BB shows jumped around and shifted gears in the past, the Blondie songs are a change of pace, and they're still doing Brian-penned Beach Boys songs. A couple more Blondie songs would be nice.

I do think there's some room to work Blondie into Brian's set more; I'd still love to hear him sing the bridge on "Surfer Girl" as he did on a few shows last year.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on July 17, 2017, 11:32:40 AM
I think one either "gets" Blondie and what he brings to the show, or doesn't. I don't think even those who want more Blondie are suggesting Blondie should start shredding a guitar solo in the middle of "Please Let Me Wonder."

Much as a BB shows jumped around and shifted gears in the past, the Blondie songs are a change of pace, and they're still doing Brian-penned Beach Boys songs. A couple more Blondie songs would be nice.

I do think there's some room to work Blondie into Brian's set more; I'd still love to hear him sing the bridge on "Surfer Girl" as he did on a few shows last year.

Hearing Blondie play the solo, and perhaps sing lead, on Steamboat in concert would be really cool. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on July 17, 2017, 11:37:11 AM
Well, I was in Pori, and I loved every minute of. Especially the minutes when Brian performed. It was cold and raining most of the time, but as Brian said, "a little downpour won't hurt ya" (or something like that).

They played one 1,5 hour long set, first deepish cuts, then PS and finishing with some sweet rockin' hits. On a positive note, the band was MUCH more together than the last time I saw Brian (London, May 2016). I mean, playing and singing were out of this world. Al was amazing, Darian did great on Darlin', you know the score... Some people were a bit baffled by Blondie's contributions, like "who is this guy and what is he doing to these songs". Personally, I found his slot refreshing. His guitar playing injected a hefty dose of avant garde noise shredding to Wild Honey, I'd say it was the closest to Captain Beefheart I've heard in any Beach Boys related concert. Blondie's a great guy, not out to please but to kick ass and terrorize bourgeoisie!

As for Brian himself, he was more into it and engaged than I've ever seen him. I especially loved his introduction to Pet Sounds title track: "On the guitar, Nicky Wonder... On the drums... The drums are GREAT!" But I have to admit, his singing has gone downhill quite a bit. When he sang harmony he was spot on, but when he took leads, his phrasing was rather breathless and gruff, long notes cut short and rhytmically all over the place... But then again, it was a jazz festival, and in a way he just jazzified it. It made singing along quite difficult, with rhytmic curveballs coming all the time. I didn't mind, though!

And hey: you COULD hear Brian's piano and Al's guitar loud and clear, and they both really know what they're doing. Especially Al... What a rhytm guitarist! He was perfectly in the pocket all the time, and he really added to the sound. My hero.

Thanks for that review! Sounds like a great experience and a great show...  :)

This being a jazz festival, at heart: The foundation of jazz is improvisation on existing structures and themes, and stretching phrases and rhythms in the moment...so as a jazz musician I found your take on this specific performance element and your observations to be very, very keen and enjoyable to hear and consider!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: rab2591 on July 17, 2017, 11:42:24 AM
I don't think even those who want more Blondie are suggesting Blondie should start shredding a guitar solo in the middle of "Please Let Me Wonder."

Exactly. I feel like he's got a great voice that could be utilized without taking away from the original intent of whatever song(s) he performs on. It's like 'Wild Honey' was perfect for the guy, he made it his own but the spirit of Carl is still there. There are plenty of other songs in the catalogue just like that for him.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Pablo. on July 17, 2017, 12:03:50 PM
I'll attend Brian's gigs at 9/22 (Boston) and 9/23 (NYC). My question (this will be my fist time ever on the US): does the show start on time as the ticket says? I mean, Boston is scheduled to start at 7.30. Or is that the time doors open? Because I wanna know if I'll be able to catch the bus back to New York at 10 PM (the station is 15 blocks away from the theatre) Thanks.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on July 17, 2017, 07:34:25 PM
You will be cutting it REALLY close. Brian is typically right on time or at most five minutes late, in my experience. But the whole show, with intermission, runs just about two hours.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on July 17, 2017, 08:48:50 PM
I'll attend Brian's gigs at 9/22 (Boston) and 9/23 (NYC). My question (this will be my fist time ever on the US): does the show start on time as the ticket says? I mean, Boston is scheduled to start at 7.30. Or is that the time doors open? Because I wanna know if I'll be able to catch the bus back to New York at 10 PM (the station is 15 blocks away from the theatre) Thanks.

The time on the ticket is showtime


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Pablo. on July 18, 2017, 07:33:14 AM
Ah, well, maybe it's wiser to wait for the next bus. Thanks.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: petsoundsnola on July 18, 2017, 07:45:57 AM
You will be cutting it REALLY close. Brian is typically right on time or at most five minutes late, in my experience. But the whole show, with intermission, runs just about two hours.

Brian is very punctual and wastes no time starting the show.  If the ticket says 8:00, Brian is walking out onto the stage at 8:00.  He waves, says hello to the City he's in, tells everyone to sit down at 8:00:30, and music begins at 8:01.  This was my experience in New Orleans.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Pablo. on July 18, 2017, 06:15:31 PM
Even Keith Richards starts on time these days...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on July 18, 2017, 08:35:39 PM
It's not that cut and dry for Brian. I've waited a few minutes for him before. I guess most times are punctual...it's still a close call.

...and not everyone is right on time. I've seen Paul McCartney 13 times and have waited anywhere from 20 to 40 minutes for him to come on beyond the time on the ticket.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Lowbacca on July 19, 2017, 12:52:43 AM
Off to Frankfurt now  :rock :rock :rock

Looking forward to rare cuts during soundcheck.  :3d

If anyone there wants to look me up, I'm parking in row #6, seat #14.

Let's do this!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Pablo. on July 19, 2017, 07:30:54 AM
It's not that cut and dry for Brian. I've waited a few minutes for him before. I guess most times are punctual...it's still a close call.

...and not everyone is right on time. I've seen Paul McCartney 13 times and have waited anywhere from 20 to 40 minutes for him to come on beyond the time on the ticket.

I've seen Paul 7 times (the 8th will be a day before Brian's Boston gig) and I think the more we waited for him were 10-15 minutes. Still, compared with the legendary delays of the Stones' gigs in the 70s it's a bargain.

Were the Beach Boys shows with Brian in the mid-late 70s punctual?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on July 19, 2017, 08:22:54 AM
It's not that cut and dry for Brian. I've waited a few minutes for him before. I guess most times are punctual...it's still a close call.

...and not everyone is right on time. I've seen Paul McCartney 13 times and have waited anywhere from 20 to 40 minutes for him to come on beyond the time on the ticket.

I was lucky that Paul was late hitting the stage at Fed Ex Field in Landover in 2009.  I got stuck in traffic for about 4-5 hours from Baltimore to Landover. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on July 19, 2017, 11:46:11 AM
It's not that cut and dry for Brian. I've waited a few minutes for him before. I guess most times are punctual...it's still a close call.

...and not everyone is right on time. I've seen Paul McCartney 13 times and have waited anywhere from 20 to 40 minutes for him to come on beyond the time on the ticket.

I was lucky that Paul was late hitting the stage at Fed Ex Field in Landover in 2009.  I got stuck in traffic for about 4-5 hours from Baltimore to Landover. 

Yeah, everyone took that first exit and it got all backed up...luckily I kept going to the second exit and had no problem! That start time was intentionally delayed because of the serious back up due to FedEx Field's incompetency with clarifying routes to the venue and then parking.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on July 19, 2017, 12:37:37 PM
It's not that cut and dry for Brian. I've waited a few minutes for him before. I guess most times are punctual...it's still a close call.

...and not everyone is right on time. I've seen Paul McCartney 13 times and have waited anywhere from 20 to 40 minutes for him to come on beyond the time on the ticket.

I was lucky that Paul was late hitting the stage at Fed Ex Field in Landover in 2009.  I got stuck in traffic for about 4-5 hours from Baltimore to Landover. 

Yeah, everyone took that first exit and it got all backed up...luckily I kept going to the second exit and had no problem! That start time was intentionally delayed because of the serious back up due to FedEx Field's incompetency with clarifying routes to the venue and then parking.

That venue is a dumpster fire.  It's been up and running for 20 years, and they can't figure it out.  I think we missed the first four songs.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on July 19, 2017, 07:07:32 PM
I've only set foot in two football stadiums and I Was not impressed either time...needles, to say, neither time was for a football game  :lol  The first was Sir Paul at FedEx and the second was Billy Joel at M&T Bank.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on July 19, 2017, 07:26:02 PM
I've only set foot in two football stadiums and I Was not impressed either time...needles, to say, neither time was for a football game  :lol  The first was Sir Paul at FedEx and the second was Billy Joel at M&T Bank.

Ive never seen a concert at MandT, just Ravens games, for which its a great venue.  I think football stadiums make awful concert venues as a whole.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Shady on July 26, 2017, 04:48:30 PM
So Brian played a sold out show in Dublin on Tuesday night and this was by far the best Brian Wilson concert I have ever attended and I've been to 8.

The love for the man was unbelievable. People of all ages at the gig, the music is timeless.

Brian was in great spirits but his back issues are worrying.

They played "Aren't you glad"   :o It was amazing.

Two nights prior they played a big show In Galway, Ireland really was good to Brian this summer  ;D

Big love to to band, Al and Blondie of course, Matt got a standing ovation he was really moved.

Anyway, thank you so much Brian and Al for coming back, if this was the last time it was a great way to go out  :)



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: rab2591 on July 26, 2017, 05:02:41 PM
Shady that’s awesome to hear. Sounds like a fantastic time. I hope to make it to one more of the Pet Sounds shows.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on July 27, 2017, 10:19:15 AM
According to setlist.fm, Tuesday's Dublin show not only brought back "Aren't You Glad", but also re-introduced "I'd Love Just Once To See You" to the setlist, for the first time since Brian's hand full of performance of the song in 2007/08:

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/bord-gais-energy-theatre-dublin-ireland-3be58434.html


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on July 27, 2017, 10:23:30 AM
Updated some recent setlists on the top post, including a show in France that wasn't even on the schedule but appears at setlist.fm.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on August 01, 2017, 11:23:59 AM
Looks like "Let the Wind Blow" popped up at the 7/28 show, which is I believe the first live performance of the song by Brian, and the first live performance by a Beach Boy since the 1973 BB tour. So they got it up to four WH songs for the 7/28 show.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on August 01, 2017, 03:06:29 PM
Looks like "Let the Wind Blow" popped up at the 7/28 show, which is I believe the first live performance of the song by Brian, and the first live performance by a Beach Boy since the 1973 BB tour. So they got it up to four WH songs for the 7/28 show.

Five, counting Blondie's Wild Honey.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on August 02, 2017, 10:06:11 AM
Looks like "Let the Wind Blow" popped up at the 7/28 show, which is I believe the first live performance of the song by Brian, and the first live performance by a Beach Boy since the 1973 BB tour. So they got it up to four WH songs for the 7/28 show.

Five, counting Blondie's Wild Honey.

Ahhh, counting "Darlin'" when that's performed, if they do all of those other tracks, it is indeed five.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on August 02, 2017, 10:08:00 AM
I guess conversation and interest just dropped off since Brian's in Europe, but I was surprised to learn that recently Al started handling the lead vocal on "Here Today." Sounds quite good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCOCJDs9qcg


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on August 02, 2017, 10:22:58 AM
People who subscribe to Brian's Facebook page have been seeing videos from various performances, including the Liverpool show where the fans were all singing along to God Only Knows which created one helluva moving and triumphant concert moment, even on video.

By the accounts I've read, fan reviews and otherwise, the UK shows have been hitting on all cylinders and fans have been loving it.

I'll reserve any further commentary so as to not ruffle any feathers, but so much for the experts and historians who have a habit of slagging off on the whole enterprise whenever Brian plays shows in the UK...the actual fans hath spoken.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: CenturyDeprived on August 02, 2017, 10:50:32 AM
I guess conversation and interest just dropped off since Brian's in Europe, but I was surprised to learn that recently Al started handling the lead vocal on "Here Today." Sounds quite good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCOCJDs9qcg

That was really cool to see, thanks for sharing it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RiC on August 03, 2017, 10:44:11 AM
Couple notes on the Apollo show from London on the first of August. Brian sounded AMAZING on Surfer Girl. The best vocals from him doing that in a long time I think. Very soulful and different.  They played a bunch of rarities including Salt lake city, let the wind blow, aren't you glad and i'd love just once to see you. Brian sounded amazing on all of those and was really into it. Blondie did an amazing version of Feel Flows. There was at least 3 videocameras filming, I saw 2 dslr cameras and one big one that was moving all the time shooting the band and audience too. It was recorded. They also had a sound dude with progear recording the audience. Anybody heard anything about what's the deal with that? Pet Sounds was the usual, Brian seems to be bored woth it but the band saves it. Really good show. And the supporting act was great too, just can't remember their name at the moment. I met Darian, Bob and Paul after the show but very quickly. Al was in a real hurry for the bus. Somebody wanted to take a pic with him but he didn't stop ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on August 03, 2017, 12:24:15 PM
I guess conversation and interest just dropped off since Brian's in Europe, but I was surprised to learn that recently Al started handling the lead vocal on "Here Today." Sounds quite good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCOCJDs9qcg

And handled it extremely well like I knew he always could. The first time I listened to PS, I knew Al could handily out perform myKe luHv on this and many others as well. Great job, Al. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on August 03, 2017, 08:15:00 PM
If these Wild Honey cuts stick around for the shows back in the states this fall, I just may have to find a way up to my favorite oldies venue this side of the Mississippi...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on August 03, 2017, 08:21:03 PM
That being said, I find it pretty hilarious that the 50th Anniversary tour of Pet Sounds that already had an ironic existence in it's 51st year, is now taking five songs out of the show to focus on an ACTUAL golden anniversary for Wild Honey. Judging by the clips and Brian's apparent boredom with the PS set at times...why not switch the records out? The fans that don't know the Wild Honey deep cuts are probably the same people that don't know the Pet Sounds deep cuts and the people (all of us) that love hearing Pet Sounds in its entirety would probably love hearing Wild Honey in its entirety! Blondie could stay on stage for the whole set as he could be greatly utilized and this band has a great potential for giving more energy to the original arrangements on the album that are maybe a little too simplistic for the live stage.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on August 04, 2017, 05:09:12 AM
That being said, I find it pretty hilarious that the 50th Anniversary tour of Pet Sounds that already had an ironic existence in it's 51st year, is now taking five songs out of the show to focus on an ACTUAL golden anniversary for Wild Honey. Judging by the clips and Brian's apparent boredom with the PS set at times...why not switch the records out? The fans that don't know the Wild Honey deep cuts are probably the same people that don't know the Pet Sounds deep cuts and the people (all of us) that love hearing Pet Sounds in its entirety would probably love hearing Wild Honey in its entirety! Blondie could stay on stage for the whole set as he could be greatly utilized and this band has a great potential for giving more energy to the original arrangements on the album that are maybe a little too simplistic for the live stage.

Heck, Wild Honey is short enough that they could drop some of the car songs in the first set and easily do the whole album. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on August 04, 2017, 06:40:06 AM
That being said, I find it pretty hilarious that the 50th Anniversary tour of Pet Sounds that already had an ironic existence in it's 51st year, is now taking five songs out of the show to focus on an ACTUAL golden anniversary for Wild Honey. Judging by the clips and Brian's apparent boredom with the PS set at times...why not switch the records out? The fans that don't know the Wild Honey deep cuts are probably the same people that don't know the Pet Sounds deep cuts and the people (all of us) that love hearing Pet Sounds in its entirety would probably love hearing Wild Honey in its entirety! Blondie could stay on stage for the whole set as he could be greatly utilized and this band has a great potential for giving more energy to the original arrangements on the album that are maybe a little too simplistic for the live stage.

In terms of why Brian *right now* couldn't replace PS with something else, it would be because all of the 2017 shows are being advertised/billed as "Pet Sounds" shows. A band usually doesn't warranty what specific songs will be played at a show, but in this case they are warrantying that the full PS album will be played.

As far as why they booked another PS tour, I'm sure it's because a PS-themed shows gets more bookings and offers, etc. And the 2017 dates seem to be rooted in cities/venues/regions that either didn't get a show in 2016 or had enough demand for additional shows in 2016 that couldn't be accommodated last year.

But I would imagine 2017 is it for "Pet Sounds." They have three symphonic shows booked for May of next year, and those shows aren't (as of now anyway) being advertised as PS shows.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on August 04, 2017, 01:28:08 PM
The beginning is cut off, but here's Let the Wind Blow and I'd Love Just Once to See You from London:

https://youtu.be/-knW_cRwxjg


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Pretty Funky on August 04, 2017, 02:35:24 PM
Ha. Brian bailed on the '....in the nude' ending.  :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Cabinessenceking on August 04, 2017, 02:44:08 PM
It would be hilarious if he kept it. If it's part of the song leave it in!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on August 05, 2017, 03:03:01 AM
Hard to tell, but it looks like some of the guys in the band are cracking up a bit when Brian bails on the last line.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Emdeeh on August 05, 2017, 08:44:02 AM
I was a bit surprised that he bailed on that line, but I do like that final bit of harmony they added at the very end. Thanks for posting the link.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Rocker on August 05, 2017, 11:27:55 AM
Let The Wind Blow soundcheck - 30 secs, without Brian:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZRUkU0fGOk


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Matt P on August 07, 2017, 02:40:54 AM
I was at the Glastonbury Abbey show on Saturday (Festival set with Pet Sounds in the middle, the only 'deep cut' was Wild Honey).  I hadn't seen Brian live since the 2012 reunion and although I know Brian's advancing in years and he's never been the most animated of live performers; I was shocked at how detached and frail he appeared, as has been documented on this board Brian seems to be wilfully ...'sabotaging' is too strong a word ...'reinterpreting' his vocals on the Pet Sounds tracks; it is noticeably these songs only, I Get Around, Fun Fun Fun etc. are delivered as they always have been. 
The band however were amazing as per usual, Al was on fine form, Matt was amazing and Blondie owned the stage for WH and SOS.  But as for the man who's name was on the poster; there was a hell of a lot of love in the room (er...field) for him but I honestly can't see him doing this for much longer.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: JK on August 07, 2017, 02:47:20 AM
I was at the Glastonbury Abbey show on Saturday (Festival set with Pet Sounds in the middle, the only 'deep cut' was Wild Honey).  I hadn't seen Brian live since the 2012 reunion and although I know Brian's advancing in years and he's never been the most animated of live performers; I was shocked at how detached and frail he appeared, as has been documented on this board Brian seems to be wilfully ...'sabotaging' is too strong a word ...'reinterpreting' his vocals on the Pet Sounds tracks; it is noticeably these songs only, I Get Around, Fun Fun Fun etc. are delivered as they always have been. 
The band however were amazing as per usual, Al was on fine form, Matt was amazing and Blondie owned the stage for WH and SOS.  But as for the man who's name was on the poster; there was a hell of a lot of love in the room (er...field) for him but I honestly can't see him doing this for much longer.

Here's another report on Glasto from my other board. It echoes much of what you say:

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/beachboysforum/r-brian-wilson-at-glastonbury-abbey-extravaganza-5-t1257.html#p31824


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on August 08, 2017, 08:47:32 AM
I was at the Glastonbury Abbey show on Saturday (Festival set with Pet Sounds in the middle, the only 'deep cut' was Wild Honey).  I hadn't seen Brian live since the 2012 reunion and although I know Brian's advancing in years and he's never been the most animated of live performers; I was shocked at how detached and frail he appeared, as has been documented on this board Brian seems to be wilfully ...'sabotaging' is too strong a word ...'reinterpreting' his vocals on the Pet Sounds tracks; it is noticeably these songs only, I Get Around, Fun Fun Fun etc. are delivered as they always have been. 
The band however were amazing as per usual, Al was on fine form, Matt was amazing and Blondie owned the stage for WH and SOS.  But as for the man who's name was on the poster; there was a hell of a lot of love in the room (er...field) for him but I honestly can't see him doing this for much longer.

Pretty much every report I've seen (and my own experience as well on this tour) is that Brian seems much more into the first set of songs. For instance, he sounds great on "I'd Love Just Once to See You" on that YouTube video; he sounds engaged and like he's digging singing it.

So for shows like Glastonbury and other "festival" shows where they severely shorten the first set, the audience gets less of the set that Brian's way more into.

I think they could continue doing some live shows (probably not 100 per year like last year), and if they stop doing full albums, I think Brian will actually be *more* into the show.

I think they're striking the best balance they can. Brian seems less interested in the PS tracks, but if they hand over like *all* of the leads to other band members, it might stretch the definition of "Brian Wilson Presents Pet Sounds." As it is, they have Matt doing hunks of several songs and now Al apparently is singing most of "Here Today."

But yeah, I think they need to wrap this tour up, put a nicely-mixed Blu-ray out of the tour (and I frankly don't care if they just have Brian re-cut his leads in the studio if they need to), and then move on to something else.

I assume the three May shows booked for next year are *not* PS shows.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on August 08, 2017, 12:59:23 PM
I was at the Glastonbury Abbey show on Saturday (Festival set with Pet Sounds in the middle, the only 'deep cut' was Wild Honey).  I hadn't seen Brian live since the 2012 reunion and although I know Brian's advancing in years and he's never been the most animated of live performers; I was shocked at how detached and frail he appeared, as has been documented on this board Brian seems to be wilfully ...'sabotaging' is too strong a word ...'reinterpreting' his vocals on the Pet Sounds tracks; it is noticeably these songs only, I Get Around, Fun Fun Fun etc. are delivered as they always have been. 
The band however were amazing as per usual, Al was on fine form, Matt was amazing and Blondie owned the stage for WH and SOS.  But as for the man who's name was on the poster; there was a hell of a lot of love in the room (er...field) for him but I honestly can't see him doing this for much longer.

Pretty much every report I've seen (and my own experience as well on this tour) is that Brian seems much more into the first set of songs. For instance, he sounds great on "I'd Love Just Once to See You" on that YouTube video; he sounds engaged and like he's digging singing it.

So for shows like Glastonbury and other "festival" shows where they severely shorten the first set, the audience gets less of the set that Brian's way more into.

I think they could continue doing some live shows (probably not 100 per year like last year), and if they stop doing full albums, I think Brian will actually be *more* into the show.

I think they're striking the best balance they can. Brian seems less interested in the PS tracks, but if they hand over like *all* of the leads to other band members, it might stretch the definition of "Brian Wilson Presents Pet Sounds." As it is, they have Matt doing hunks of several songs and now Al apparently is singing most of "Here Today."

But yeah, I think they need to wrap this tour up, put a nicely-mixed Blu-ray out of the tour (and I frankly don't care if they just have Brian re-cut his leads in the studio if they need to), and then move on to something else.

I assume the three May shows booked for next year are *not* PS shows.

Wasn't one of the shows last September filmed?  Too bad it wasn't the one I attended in Bethesda.  That was an amazing concert.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Shady on August 08, 2017, 02:09:30 PM
Al and Probyn meeting fans after a gag. Al briefly mentions he wanted to do more "Love You" songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2imK2elVfs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2imK2elVfs)

Brian and Blondie back in LA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiUXyh4kNSc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiUXyh4kNSc)



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on August 08, 2017, 11:04:37 PM
Al and Probyn meeting fans after a gag. Al briefly mentions he wanted to do more "Love You" songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2imK2elVfs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2imK2elVfs)

Brian and Blondie back in LA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiUXyh4kNSc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiUXyh4kNSc)



That was a LOT of people waiting after the show!!! When I met Al after the Montgomery College concert, I had to walk with him from the door to the bus to get my photo signed because he was in such a hurry...he signed my photo by balancing it upon his carry-out container he was holding!  :lol  Nice as could be, but he definitely did not have mingling time like he did here.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on August 09, 2017, 05:33:56 AM
Al and Probyn meeting fans after a gag. Al briefly mentions he wanted to do more "Love You" songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2imK2elVfs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2imK2elVfs)

Brian and Blondie back in LA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiUXyh4kNSc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiUXyh4kNSc)



That was a LOT of people waiting after the show!!! When I met Al after the Montgomery College concert, I had to walk with him from the door to the bus to get my photo signed because he was in such a hurry...he signed my photo by balancing it upon his carry-out container he was holding!  :lol  Nice as could be, but he definitely did not have mingling time like he did here.

My father was probably right there with you.  He went to his car to get a pen, and happened to see Al getting on the bus and got his signature on the playbill they handed out.   I think my wife and I were talking to Probyn Gregory at the time.   I saw Al walk out with his take out food, and just waved and yelled "great show."   I did get to meet and get a picture with Blondie though. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: mikeddonn on August 11, 2017, 07:45:45 AM
Here's a belated review of Brian in Glasgow last week.  Great atmosphere and it stayed dry! I was about 8 rows back in line with Brian.

In terms of performance much of it has been said previously in this thread.  Brian's vocals are still strong on the non Pet Sounds stuff.  Surfer Girl, In My Room etc were fabulous.  He sounded good on the Wild Honey stuff (a real highlight getting to hear those songs in the set.  More please!).  Don't Worry Baby was sensational.  Matt was still 'whiny' during some of his leads but he really nailed this one and Let Him Run Wild, in fact everything he sang, he did well.  The crowd loved him. He is very humble and a great guy to have up there.  Feel Flows was a pleasure to hear and Blondie put his own spin on it (I love his sung intro!). 

Pet Sounds was better than last year.  The band and the mix were better.  It's great having Darian back in there as I feel it brings the whole unit together.  Brian spoke his way through some of the songs, making up lyrics on the spot.  The funniest was during "Love and Mercy" as Brian sang, "A lot of people out there hurting scares, scare, scares me scares me"  A few of us thought he was going to sing "..scares the sh*t outta me".  I've said before that it's not my thing.  But last night I had a thought.  When I saw The Pet Sounds Tour in 2002 it was very referential from the audience.  They listened intently and it was very serious.  Nowadays people bounce along to WIBN like they do with Rhonda.  They jump around to songs like Here Today and do the singing on God Only Knows.  It's very much audience participation.  It works.  Maybe that has been Brian's intention. Maybe he was bored and uncomfortable with being the centre of attention on the album and tried to bring it back down to earth a bit.  He didn't appear 'bored' when they were doing it.  Quite the opposite, including when he was yelling some of the vocals he was making up!  I thought he was going to say 'sh**t' at one point!  And the crowd were feeding off it big time. 

The rest of the show was mostly Al singing the hits (Do It Again, Heroes didn't get sung).  And it was a very lively end to the show.

The support act, Beat Root Revival, were really good and worth watching.

Once again I'm so glad I went to the show and saw the great Brian Wilson and friends. If you get the chance to go don't be put off by some of the reviews.  It was still well worth the money.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on August 31, 2017, 12:55:45 PM
Updated setlists for the end of the European tour (finally). No setlist has surfaced yet for the one-off 8/26 show in Lincoln.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: cpeck on September 18, 2017, 05:49:25 PM
I went to both the Moncton and the Halifax shows (number 4 and 5 on the PS tour for this guy).

Setlist:

California Girls
Dance Dance Dance
I Get Around / Shut Down / Little Deuce Coupe
Little Honda
In My Room
Surfer Girl
Salt Lake City
Wake the World / Add Some Music
California Saga
Don't Worry Baby
Let Him Run Wild
Darlin'
Feel Flows
Wild Honey
Sail On Sailor

Pet Sounds

Good Vibrations
Help Me Rhonda
Barbara Ann
Surfin' USA
Fun Fun Fun
Love and Mercy

I grabbed the setlist so I can add the keys they're playing most of the stuff in if anyone is interested.

Darian was there, which was the first time I'd seen the band with him - Darlin' was a standout both nights. Brian was still doing the talk-sing thing on some of Pet Sounds, but not unilaterally - he was really belting it out on I'm Waiting for the Day, and his harmony with Al during Sloop John B was great. I took a video of Caroline, No (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBGnHye99Fo) from the Moncton show.

Attendance at the Halifax show was abysmal - I'm guessing it was just over half capacity and even then they had shut down the back quarter of the rink. Boggling. Blondie was great, as ever. Nelson seemed to be having big issues with his in-ear monitors both nights. The drumming was insanely solid. I was able to meet Paul very briefly.

This sounds a little hyperbolic but Brian seemed to be exceptionally energetic in Moncton.

He also made a prayer sign during In My Room at the Halifax show. I'm not sure if that is one of his "moves", but it was a very affecting moment in the set.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4333/36917441070_4ecc4f38d3.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Yfgx3E)2017-09-15 21.22.46 (https://flic.kr/p/Yfgx3E) by Chad Peck (https://www.flickr.com/photos/chadpeck/), on Flickr

I grabbed a hoodie, shirt, poster, and book. They were selling the cds of the new anthology as well.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: baseball95 on September 18, 2017, 06:34:33 PM
I'm really hoping the Wild Honey medley returns because honestly that's probably the only thing that will make me go out of the way to see them again.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 19, 2017, 04:46:25 AM
I was considering getting tix for Monday's show in Lancaster even though the crowd at that theatre is a total drag. BUT, if all those Wild Honey songs are out of the set again, I can't justify paying that kind of money to see the same show a third time.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on September 19, 2017, 06:12:11 AM
It's of course impossible to know what the setlist will be on this final month of shows. But I have noticed that for the last few years, the setlist gets tighter and slightly more conservative near the end. Last year, "Funky Pretty" was dropped and "Sail Away" returned for later dates.

And/or, it may just be that the setlist has reverted a tiny bit (meaning mainly just subbing the "Wake the World/Add Some Music" duo for the WH songs) because it's the beginning of this leg and they'll do more rehearsing/soundchecking.

But it is true, the current setlist is very similar to the setlist for the final dates in 2016, with the main difference being "Feel Flows" (which I'm surprised has survived the entire tour so far).

But I haven't been under any illusions as far as the setlist this year; I never assumed much would change as long as PS remained in the set. Once they move on from PS, things at least have a chance to change more.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on September 20, 2017, 12:46:07 PM
Updated the top posts with some recent setlists. It looks like all three Canadian shows featured the setlist which reverts back to "Wake the World/Add Some Music" and drops the newer WH songs.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: baseball95 on September 23, 2017, 09:51:25 AM
It seems that the 3 Wild Honey songs returned last night. If they stay not sure how I can't go to a show on this leg....

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/orpheum-theatre-boston-ma-4be20346.html


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: myonlysunshine on September 23, 2017, 08:27:33 PM
Just got back from Radio City. Amazing show.

They kept the Wild Honey set for tonight too (Let the Wind Blow, I'd Just Once Love to See You, Aren't You Glad), which was great to hear (Aren't You Glad is a big favorite of mine, and tonight's performance was fantastic).

I was sitting in Orchestra 3, Zone D, row A on the isle seat across from Zone 4. From my seat, the acoustics during the first set sounded a little bit off, particularly towards the beginning. Part of it may have been due to Brian and Al's microphones being a little too loud in the overall mix, but there was something else that, to my ears, sounded a bit off that I can't put my finger on.... it was kind of odd, but the performances of Brian, Al, and the rest of the band were still great in that first set, And whatever it was, it was gone by the start of the second set, which again, was incredible, along with the encore of course.

I saw Brian and the band last year at the Oakdale Theater in Wallingford CT, and that also was an amazing show, but I'm so glad I got to attend this one as well. It really impacted me in a way that last year's show didn't. Maybe because I realize that this is going to be the last time I'll ever get to experience my favorite artist/s playing my favorite album live, which is something I didn't really reflect on too much during last year's show, but tonight was quite an emotional experience for me.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: All Summer Long on September 24, 2017, 01:32:07 PM
Al and Probyn meeting fans after a gag. Al briefly mentions he wanted to do more "Love You" songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2imK2elVfs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2imK2elVfs)

Brian and Blondie back in LA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiUXyh4kNSc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiUXyh4kNSc)



That was a LOT of people waiting after the show!!! When I met Al after the Montgomery College concert, I had to walk with him from the door to the bus to get my photo signed because he was in such a hurry...he signed my photo by balancing it upon his carry-out container he was holding!  :lol  Nice as could be, but he definitely did not have mingling time like he did here.
I'll be seeing Brian, Al, and Blondie at the Zeiterion in New Bedford, MA. How often is it to run into either Al and/or Blondie after a show? Where would they be? Should I risk bringing my copy of Pet Sounds to try to have Al sign it?

Thanks!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Pablo. on September 24, 2017, 09:36:53 PM
Went to  the Boston and NYC shows, my first (and I guess last) BW gigs. Highly emotional for me, yet I can take some distance when it comes to evaluate each night. Boston's Orpheum teathre was pretty well sold, and I have to say that the acoustics worked better  there than on Radio City. On the latter, sometimes the drums sounded very bad, and you had latence at the last rows (fortunately, my seats for each night were very good -  thanks to the posters who adviced me on that matter). Ironically, you could catch Brian's vocals in the harmony stack more clearly on Radio City.

At Boston, Brian forgot the lyrics for most of ILJOTSY, and shouted something about cues o carriers (? sorry, couldn't discern). He made the same request before the beginning of the Radio City show.

Here I join everyone who says that Brian seems more engaged on the first set and the encores than during Pet Sounds. Haven't read the whole thread, but for me his speaking/singing vocals on that songs (thanks God he pulls off IWFTD) are
a) a Dylanesque approach to his back catalogue, mixed with some crooneresque stylings from the Adult/Child days; a way he finds to do something new with those songs since he can't sing them anymore like he used to do even 15 years ago.
b) his classic passive/aggresive way to do something he doesen't want to do. i.e. another Pet Sounds tour. Maybe the current modus operandi of him trading lines with Matt is for him a painful realization of how much he has lost. Actually, I found the current versions of those songs  (WIBN, YSBIM, DT) a very odd aesthetic experience. (and, btw, I prefer Foskett's falsetto. Matt is a fine performer anyway). And the Blondie (no wonder the guy is friends with Keith Richards - actually on his tours with the Stones his body language was more restrained) segment provides Brian with a way to switch off without having to leave the stage.

To me, the most striking feeling is thet air of finality, not just of Pet Sounds as a live experience, but of Brian as a touring artist. Might be unfair, but on the 21th I catched for the eight time a Paul McCartney gig and you can bet that, despite the damage in his vocals, Paul can keep performing for many more years, like Aznavour or Tony Bennett, (the same goes for Dylan). I think that Brian has a great band, his presence is almost totemic, he still can sing when he wants to (in Boston he broke into a falsetto at the end of one of Al's spots, can't remember which one), he's actually playing more piano nowadays (even if most of the times you can't catch him on the mix) than on his peaking days as a solo act, but is hard to imagine him doing this two years from now.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on September 25, 2017, 07:41:33 AM
While Brian's age dictates that he probably won't be touring for another 10 or more years, I can say as a fan and someone who has been reading commentary on the internet for a good 22+ years, I've seen quite a few "this is probably Brian's last tour, I can't imagine him doing another one" predictions come and go.

I think as long as his health holds up, he can surprisingly probably handle more tours. Especially if they eschew doing stuff he's clearly bored with (e.g. "Pet Sounds") and especially if he keeps Al, Matt, and others on board.

While he sounds bored with PS, he is singing those first-set songs with an enthusiasm and zeal over the last couple years not seen in some time.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: NateRuvin on September 25, 2017, 07:51:15 AM
At this point, I'd rather just see BW do a set of BBs greatest hits, like the first half of his show, because he's so enthusiastic. The PS stuff obviously bores the hell out of him. It's odd that he actually seems more excited to sing car songs than his masterpiece(s).


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on September 25, 2017, 07:59:38 AM
At this point, I'd rather just see BW do a set of BBs greatest hits, like the first half of his show, because he's so enthusiastic. The PS stuff obviously bores the hell out of him. It's odd that he actually seems more excited to sing car songs than his masterpiece(s).

Well, there's the armchair psychology aspect where we can guess that PS, for all its accolades, is more of a "loaded" era/topic for Brian than those early hits (kind of like how he feels about "Smile", just not nearly as intense).

Also, I often remind people that Brian was not regularly active touring for 1965-1976 and 1983-1998. That's 26 years worth touring where Carl, Al, and Mike (and Bruce for most of those years) sang all those "meat and potatoes" songs every night. The point being that Brian hasn't performed his own "oldies" nearly as much as Al or Mike have, and clearly even Al and Mike strangely aren't totally sick of the material. Brian has been touring for a while now, so my point was more salient back around 2007 or so when people were complaining about Brian doing songs like "Shut Down", where in fact the evidence was that I as a fan had probably listened to more live recordings of that song than Brian had in his career.

I'm surprised after nearly two years of touring PS, and this year and at least some of last year featuring Brian's "unique" vocal approach to the PS songs, that some interviewer hasn't asked Brian if he's sick of performing the album.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on September 25, 2017, 08:00:55 AM
At this point, I'd rather just see BW do a set of BBs greatest hits, like the first half of his show, because he's so enthusiastic. The PS stuff obviously bores the hell out of him. It's odd that he actually seems more excited to sing car songs than his masterpiece(s).

Just a theory.  But, it could be that Brian has grown weary of his career being defined so much by Pet Sounds.  There's a belief (especially outside of hardcore BB/BW fans) that Pet Sounds is sort of the be all / end all of his 50+ year career.  A lot of the pre Pet Sounds classics get dismissed by music afficionados as disposable pop music, while a lot of the most PS material might not be as well known to non hardcore fans.  


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: B.E. on September 25, 2017, 08:07:32 AM
It's odd that he actually seems more excited to sing car songs than his masterpiece(s).

Perhaps, but I don't think Brian looks down on his early material like some fans do. I could be wrong, but I get the impression that he digs just about everything he's ever done, musically. And why not? Also, I suspect it's just more fun for him to sing the car songs in a concert setting.

Any chance Brian's band performs Run James Run? If only for a few shows...

Edit: KDS kinda beat me to it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on September 25, 2017, 08:13:11 AM
It's odd that he actually seems more excited to sing car songs than his masterpiece(s).

Perhaps, but I don't think Brian looks down on his early material like some fans do. I could be wrong, but I get the impression that he digs just about everything he's ever done musically. And why not? Also, I suspect it's just more fun for him to sing the car songs in a concert setting.

Any chance Brian's band performs Run James Run? If only for a few shows...

Edit: KDS kinda beat me to it.

I think Brian and the band feed off the audience a bit too.  And the audience, for the most part, loves the hits.  Even during the PS portion of the shows, the biggest ovations are always for WIBN, SJB, and GOK. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on September 25, 2017, 08:42:15 AM
There is of course an obvious reason most PS shows were booked. A PS tour gets more bookings and sells more tickets.

There's little chance Brian could book 100 shows per year (at the scale he does anyway) just continuing the "No Pier Pressure Tour" sort of touring. I'm guessing they had a lot of offers during the 2016 tour that they couldn't fulfill, and got more after the tour. Note that the 2017 tour was a mixture of second or third shows in markets that one got one or two shows last year, as well as markets that weren't hit in 2016, and then various other bookings as well.

Brian did in 2017 what the "Beach Boys" couldn't do in 2013, which was to capitalize on renewed/ramped up interest and book more legs of touring.

While it seems to make sense that he'll either go light on touring in 2018 and/or do a "regular" non-themed setlist, we don't know for sure. One article in recent weeks implied he's not only booking more shows into 2018, but that they would be more PS shows! The writer may not have intended to imply they would be PS shows, I dunno.

It'll be interesting to see if he goes light on touring next year, perhaps only doing those three symphonic shows in May that are currently scheduled, or if they ramp up for more touring next spring/summer. I think a rest for Brian and the band and a move away from PS would result in a potentially great show next year. A true revamp of the setlist, including giving Al and Matt and Blondie (if Blondie continues on) some new tracks to sing, would make things perfect.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: baseball95 on September 25, 2017, 09:44:29 AM
If they do a new tour in 2018 they should honestly make it a point to not do any of the songs M&B do unless they’re one of the big must play hits. I want to hear Breakaway or Time to Get Alone stuff that he’s played but would sound that much better will Al aboard.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: the captain on September 25, 2017, 09:59:50 AM
There's about a 0% chance of that. And I'd guess a full 90-95% of attendees would be furious and/or disappointed.

Think of how many different opinions there are as to what the "big, must-play hits" are. Lots of hits. Must-play is very subjective. And the rarities and deep cuts just aren't popular enough with enough preople, including big fans. Hits are hits because people like them.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on September 25, 2017, 11:18:59 AM
Ironically, the PS shows make it maybe slightly harder to do *other* deep cuts. PS is famous enough and well-known enough that some mid-level and even "casual" fans pop in. Now, I don't think most Brian shows feature lunkheads screaming for "Barbara Ann" like you get at some Mike shows, but you might get some quiet non-recognition for non-PS deep cuts at a Brian show due to the way the shows are marketed.

But frankly, I don't think Brian's current setlist isn't  "deep enough." I'd argue the problem is more that it's too static. But as deep cuts go, his current setlist is plenty impressive. The majority of PS songs are "deep cuts" in any context other than the last two years of touring, and he's doing multiple WH tracks, Al's "Cal Saga" is relatively deep, plus "Feel Flows", "Salt Lake City" is semi-deep, arguably even "Little Honda" to some degree, as well as "Let Him Run Wild."

It's really not a problem that the show is front-loaded with 4 or 5 "classic" meat and potatoes numbers, and they're mostly sung by Al to boot.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: NateRuvin on September 25, 2017, 11:28:30 AM
Yeah, I have no problem with hearing the hits- Brian's band plays them very well. I actually prefer to hear M&B play the surf/car songs, because John Cowsill really amps up the energy by pushing the tempo a little bit- like a real rock group. Brian's band plays the hits at a more balanced tempo.

I honestly would play to see Brian's show with Brian just playing piano. Or not even doing anything, as long as he enjoyed himself. (Doing his little hand motions like SOS) I just want to see Brian happy onstage, and during PS, he seems rather unhappy, compared to the hits. If  just playing the hits made him happy, I'd see him play hits. If playing mostly deep cuts made him happy, I'd see that. If he wanted to just sing or just play piano, I'd be happy with that.

He just went through so much pain in his life, I want to see him enjoy himself.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on September 25, 2017, 11:37:03 AM
If they do a new tour in 2018 they should honestly make it a point to not do any of the songs M&B do unless they’re one of the big must play hits. I want to hear Breakaway or Time to Get Alone stuff that he’s played but would sound that much better will Al aboard.

Brian has done "Break Away" with Al in the band. But certainly, I think most of us would love to see that become a regular.

But there's no way Brian's going to skip "Good Vibrations" and all of that. Unless he wants to book club shows and cut his band in half in order to (maybe) not lose money.

Brian (nor Al frustratingly) seem to be interested in scaling back and doing super-deep-cuts shows in clubs in front of small groups of diehard fans, and thus not making any money and fighting to not lose money. Al had a decade to do it in the 2000s and he never did it, choosing instead to book a few "Surf City All Stars" shows here and there. Same with Brian. He obviously has mixed feelings about the pros and cons of touring, but if he all of a sudden has to scale back on accommodations and play all clubs and be lucky to clear a few grand per night, he just isn't going to do it. (Outside of one-off events like the Roxy gigs or BB Kings, etc.).

Going forward, I think the best case scenario would be a 30-35 song setlist (with about 10 more songs freed up if they're not doing PS), with at least five new setlist additions (or super-rare additions; "Let It Shine" or "Break Away", etc. would be fine), at least five additional songs swapped out with some tracks he hasn't done regularly in quite a while (e.g. "The Little Girl I Once Knew", stuff like that), and swap out a few songs for Al and Blondie and maybe hand over a little mid-show mini-set to Al and Blondie where Brian can relax off stage.

So a setlist something like this (keep in mind this isn't my dream setlist by any means, but it's a mixture of things that seems plausible and best-case scenario-ish):  

1. The Little Girl I Once Knew
2. California Girls
3. Little Deuce Coupe
4. I Get Around
5. Shut Down
6. Run James Run (or something else brand-new)
7. In My Room
8. Surfer Girl
9. Heroes and Villains (Al on lead)
10. Lookin' at Tomorrow or Santa Ana Winds (something new from Al)
11. Don't Worry Baby
12. She Knows Me Too Well (or Let Him Run Wild, or some other new falsetto bit for Matt)
13. Aren't You Glad
14. Let It Shine
15. Your Imagination or Cry
16. Leaving This Town
17. Something else new for Blondie to sing instead of "Wild Honey"
18. Sail on Sailor

Intermission

19. Hold On Dear Brother (Matt, Al, and Blondie with backing band)
20. Something else for Blondie solo or with stripped down band
21. Something else new from Al solo or with stripped down band

22. Add Some Music to Your Day
23. That's Why God Made the Radio
24. Then I Kissed Her (or Cotton Fields or Cal Saga)
25. God Only Knows
26. Wouldn't It Be Nice
27. Sloop John B.
28. Surf's Up (Matt on lead)
29. Goin' On (something new from the back catalog)
30. Darlin' or This Whole World (Darian)
31. Marcella
32. Do It Again

33. Good Vibrations
34. Help Me Rhonda
35. Barbara Ann
36. Surfin' USA
37. Fun Fun Fun
38. Love and Mercy

And then I would pick maybe 5-8 of those songs to be "swap out" selections that alternate. "Please Let Me Wonder" instead of "Add Some Music", "Little Honda" instead of "Little Deuce Coupe", etc.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: NateRuvin on September 25, 2017, 11:51:39 AM
I'm going to adjust Hey Jude's set a wee bit to fit my taste...

1. California Girls
2. Surf City
3. Little Deuce Coupe
4. I Get Around
5. Shut Down
6. Run James Run (or something else brand-new)
7. In My Room
8. Surfer Girl
9. Heroes and Villains (Al on lead)
10. Lookin' at Tomorrow or Santa Ana Winds (something new from Al)
11. Don't Worry Baby
12. She Knows Me Too Well (or Let Him Run Wild, or some other new falsetto bit for Matt)
13. Aren't You Glad
14. Melt Away
15. Your Imagination or Cry
16. Leaving This Town
17. Something else new for Blondie to sing instead of "Wild Honey"
18. Sail on Sailor

Intermission

19. Hold On Dear Brother (Matt, Al, and Blondie with backing band)
20. Something else for Blondie solo or with stripped down band
21. Something else new from Al solo or with stripped down band

22. Add Some Music to Your Day
23. All I Wanna Do
24. Then I Kissed Her (or Cotton Fields or Cal Saga)
25. God Only Knows
26. Wouldn't It Be Nice (Al on lead)
27. Sloop John B. (Al on lead, Brian on harmony)
28. Surf's Up (Brian & Matt on lead)
29. The Night Was So Young
30. Darlin' or This Whole World (Darian)
31. Marcella
32. Do It Again

33. Good Vibrations
34. Help Me Rhonda
35. Barbara Ann
36. Surfin' USA
37. Fun Fun Fun
38. Love and Mercy


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: baseball95 on September 25, 2017, 12:14:18 PM
Both of those sets would be complete winners in my book.

Here’s my adaptation on that


1. California Girls
2. Do It Again
3. Little Deuce Coupe
4. I Get Around
5. Shut Down
6. Run James Run (or something else brand-new)
7. Please Let Me Wonder
8. Surfer Girl
9. Heroes and Villains (Al on lead)
10. Lookin' at Tomorrow or Honkin’ Down The Highway (something new from Al)
11. Don't Worry Baby
12. She Knows Me Too Well or Time to Get Alone
13. Aren't You Glad or Let The Wind Blow
14. Melt Away or Walk The Line
15. Your Imagination or Goin Home
16. Leaving This Town
17. Hold On Dear Brother
18. Sail on Sailor

Intermission

19. Meant For You
20. Friends
21. Wake the World
22. Add Some Music to Your Day
23. Breakaway (Brian and Al)
24. Then I Kissed Her (or Cotton Fields or Cal Saga)
25. God Only Knows
26. Wouldn't It Be Nice (Al on lead)
27. Sloop John B. (Al on lead, Brian on harmony)
28. Surf's Up (Brian & Matt on lead)
29. The Night Was So Young
30. Darlin' or This Whole World (Darian)
31. Marcella
32. Good Vibrations

33. Do You Wanna Dance?
34. Help Me Rhonda
35. Barbara Ann
36. Surfin' USA
37. Fun Fun Fun
38. Love and Mercy


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KC41 on September 25, 2017, 12:52:46 PM
Feel Flows from the 9/23 soundcheck at Radio City Music Hall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4Gi8dWi7oA&feature=youtu.be


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: All Summer Long on September 25, 2017, 03:13:43 PM
My question was buried in discussion, which I found very interesting though  :)

But...since I don't know how to delete a post (if that's possible?)...here's a "re-post"  :lol



Al and Probyn meeting fans after a gag. Al briefly mentions he wanted to do more "Love You" songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2imK2elVfs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2imK2elVfs)

Brian and Blondie back in LA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiUXyh4kNSc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiUXyh4kNSc)



That was a LOT of people waiting after the show!!! When I met Al after the Montgomery College concert, I had to walk with him from the door to the bus to get my photo signed because he was in such a hurry...he signed my photo by balancing it upon his carry-out container he was holding!  :lol  Nice as could be, but he definitely did not have mingling time like he did here.
I'll be seeing Brian, Al, and Blondie at the Zeiterion in New Bedford, MA. How often is it to run into either Al and/or Blondie after a show? Where would they be? Should I risk bringing my copy of Pet Sounds to try to have Al sign it?

Thanks!




Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on September 25, 2017, 03:48:39 PM
Perhaps you can be lucky like I was after the Bossier City concert last year. Al came back on stage and spent a good while (15 minutes) signing autographs. I didn't have anything for him to sign but told him "Great job, Al" - he thanked me and shook my hand


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: baseball95 on September 25, 2017, 04:00:17 PM
It honestly depends on the venue, if the exit to the bus is easy to stand by you have a good shot. Also before the show I’ve seen Blondie walking around and he’ll sign for you. If you’re up close you can probably get Al walking off the stage.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 25, 2017, 06:43:04 PM
Blondie is always around before and after. Alan typically takes time to sign for fans from the stage and on his way to the bus. Unless you shell out for VIP, Brian isn't happening.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Pablo. on September 25, 2017, 09:45:26 PM
Speaking of lists... has anybody ever compiled a list with all the musical cues used during the band introductions? I recognized quite a few but I didn't take notes.

Also, who made the orchestral versions of BB tunes used as pre-show and intermission music. The Hollyridge Strings? Because I know of a record of them  from 1964, but some of the songs arranged were originally recorded by the BB in 1966.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 25, 2017, 11:44:09 PM
Blondie is always around before and after. Alan typically takes time to sign for fans from the stage and on his way to the bus. Unless you shell out for VIP, Brian isn't happening.

In June 2015, Blondie stayed for a while and talked to my wife for a bit. Chatted with Paul and Darian for a bit with my daughter,  both nice guys , Nelson too. Actually chatted with Nelson before the show as we were both waiting in an extremely long line for the rest room;nobody seemed to recognize him. I did but played dumb; mainly talked about what a ripoff the food was!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 26, 2017, 05:08:56 AM
Dammit...they played the Wild Honey songs last night and I wasn't there.  :lol

This is absolutely hysterical and so typical of the Beach Boys...

Mike and Bruce's tour is literally "The Wild Honey Tour" and they played ONE song (Darlin) from the record when I saw them in OC.

Brian and Alan's tour is literally "The Pet Sounds Tour" and they played FIVE songs from the record when I DIDN'T go because it was advertised as the same show I had seen twice before.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on September 26, 2017, 06:25:49 AM
Dammit...they played the Wild Honey songs last night and I wasn't there.  :lol

This is absolutely hysterical and so typical of the Beach Boys...

Mike and Bruce's tour is literally "The Wild Honey Tour" and they played ONE song (Darlin) from the record when I saw them in OC.

Brian and Alan's tour is literally "The Pet Sounds Tour" and they played FIVE songs from the record when I DIDN'T go because it was advertised as the same show I had seen twice before.
  :lol  So true!



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on September 26, 2017, 07:02:23 AM
Dammit...they played the Wild Honey songs last night and I wasn't there.  :lol

This is absolutely hysterical and so typical of the Beach Boys...

Mike and Bruce's tour is literally "The Wild Honey Tour" and they played ONE song (Darlin) from the record when I saw them in OC.

Brian and Alan's tour is literally "The Pet Sounds Tour" and they played FIVE songs from the record when I DIDN'T go because it was advertised as the same show I had seen twice before.

I share setlist frustrations; I've seen tours from artists where the show I saw was either *before* a cool song was added, or *after* it was dropped.

But really, they're never warrantying anything about the setlist when they publicize shows, with the exception that on a "Pet Sounds" tour, you know at least 13 of the songs performed will be the full PS album. But from year to year, even when they don't *drastically* change the setlist, you're bound to get some changes. I saw two shows in 2015 (opening night in June, and then a one off in September), and even less than three months apart, there were some setlist differences.

It's just part of the crapshoot when you pay to see a show. I've had it both ways. I got to hear the first performance of "Let It Shine" in 2000, I got to see opening night in 2015 and hear Brian (not Al) sing "Wake the World", I got to see Al play with Brian twice in 2007, and then on the other hand I recall seeing an early show on the 2001 tour before they added something interesting (maybe "Surf's Up"?).


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on September 26, 2017, 07:06:35 AM
Dammit...they played the Wild Honey songs last night and I wasn't there.  :lol

This is absolutely hysterical and so typical of the Beach Boys...

Mike and Bruce's tour is literally "The Wild Honey Tour" and they played ONE song (Darlin) from the record when I saw them in OC.

Brian and Alan's tour is literally "The Pet Sounds Tour" and they played FIVE songs from the record when I DIDN'T go because it was advertised as the same show I had seen twice before.

I share setlist frustrations; I've seen tours from artists where the show I saw was either *before* a cool song was added, or *after* it was dropped.

But really, they're never warrantying anything about the setlist when they publicize shows, with the exception that on a "Pet Sounds" tour, you know at least 13 of the songs performed will be the full PS album. But from year to year, even when they don't *drastically* change the setlist, you're bound to get some changes. I saw two shows in 2015 (opening night in June, and then a one off in September), and even less than three months apart, there were some setlist differences.

It's just part of the crapshoot when you pay to see a show. I've had it both ways. I got to hear the first performance of "Let It Shine" in 2000, I got to see opening night in 2015 and hear Brian (not Al) sing "Wake the World", I got to see Al play with Brian twice in 2007, and then on the other hand I recall seeing an early show on the 2001 tour before they added something interesting (maybe "Surf's Up"?).

Yep, I know in recent years, the Stones has a setlist they played with from night to night.  Took me three shows over four years to finally hear Paint It Black in person.

I consider myself lucky that I saw one of Brian's NPP shows before Surf's Up dropped from the setlist. 



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on September 26, 2017, 07:17:59 AM
And frankly, my preference, especially in the internet age of the last 20 years when setlists are readily available as tours progress, would be for bands to wildly vary the setlist from night to night. I get it, Brian isn't skipping "Fun Fun Fun", etc. Al will probably never get away with not doing "Rhonda" at a gig for the rest of his life. But they could take roughly half of the setlist and shake it up. Take a pool of 30 songs and rotate stuff in and out of, say, 15 slots per night.

Outside of avoiding discussing tours with fellow fans, there's no way to avoid "spoilers", so there is a bit of disappointment in going to a show and knowing top to bottom what the setlist will be, outside of a selection here or there that might rotate in or out. I recall finding it laughable some years back, I think around 2001, when Ringo did another tour and "big change" was swapping the first and last songs, so that "Photograph" opened the show and "It Don't Come Easy" was near the end, instead of the usual vice versa.

I've at least been lucky enough, probably because I'm on the west coast, of seeing the opening shows on some tours. Perhaps most thrilling was seeing opening night on McCartney's 2002 tour in Oakland, his first "proper" gig since 1993. Most had *no idea* what the setlist would be for that one. Very cool to hear the first ever live performance of the full "Hello Goodbye."

Similarly, opening night on Brian's 2015 tour was cool. Granted, we had some 2014 setlists to go off of, so there weren't a ton of surprises. But the "Wake the World/Busy Doin' Nothin'" combo for the first time ever was a pretty cool moment.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on September 26, 2017, 07:24:11 AM
And frankly, my preference, especially in the internet age of the last 20 years when setlists are readily available as tours progress, would be for bands to wildly vary the setlist from night to night. I get it, Brian isn't skipping "Fun Fun Fun", etc. Al will probably never get away with not doing "Rhonda" at a gig for the rest of his life. But they could take roughly half of the setlist and shake it up. Take a pool of 30 songs and rotate stuff in and out of, say, 15 slots per night.

Outside of avoiding discussing tours with fellow fans, there's no way to avoid "spoilers", so there is a bit of disappointment in going to a show and knowing top to bottom what the setlist will be, outside of a selection here or there that might rotate in or out. I recall finding it laughable some years back, I think around 2001, when Ringo did another tour and "big change" was swapping the first and last songs, so that "Photograph" opened the show and "It Don't Come Easy" was near the end, instead of the usual vice versa.

I've at least been lucky enough, probably because I'm on the west coast, of seeing the opening shows on some tours. Perhaps most thrilling was seeing opening night on McCartney's 2002 tour in Oakland, his first "proper" gig since 1993. Most had *no idea* what the setlist would be for that one. Very cool to hear the first ever live performance of the full "Hello Goodbye."

Similarly, opening night on Brian's 2015 tour was cool. Granted, we had some 2014 setlists to go off of, so there weren't a ton of surprises. But the "Wake the World/Busy Doin' Nothin'" combo for the first time ever was a pretty cool moment.

It's not easy, but I try to avoid setlist spoilers leading up to a show. 

The second concert I ever attended was Roger Waters in 1999.  I'd really gotten heavy into Pink Floyd, and Roger was launching his first tour in 12 years.  Judging only by his 1984 and 1987, I was kind of expecting 50/50 Floyd and solo, especially since he never toured his 1992 album Amused to Death. 

Unfortunately, curiosity got the best of me, so I found a setlist online, and saw that it was almost all Pink Floyd songs, many of which Roger had never done as a solo artist.  It would've been such a great surprise to hear the opening bars of "Dogs" and "Shine On You Crazy Diamond," without prior knowledge. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: All Summer Long on September 26, 2017, 07:24:59 AM
Thanks NOLA BB Fan, baseball95, RubberSoul13, and Billy C for your responses!   ;D


I knew I wouldn't be able to get Brian's signature, unfortunately.  :(


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on September 26, 2017, 10:09:33 AM
Dammit...they played the Wild Honey songs last night and I wasn't there.  :lol

This is absolutely hysterical and so typical of the Beach Boys...

Mike and Bruce's tour is literally "The Wild Honey Tour" and they played ONE song (Darlin) from the record when I saw them in OC.

Brian and Alan's tour is literally "The Pet Sounds Tour" and they played FIVE songs from the record when I DIDN'T go because it was advertised as the same show I had seen twice before.

I went. I've seen this same show five times and this was by far the best one. Pet Sounds was actually Brian's better set! He sang the songs - sometimes with power, sometimes very sweetly. He was very engaged and smiley. It was incredible. I was so used to him talk-singing that it just blew me away.

The opening set was great, too - loved hearing those Wild Honey cuts.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: baseball95 on September 26, 2017, 11:41:07 AM
The setlist debate could go on practically forever no matter the artist. I wish more artists would do what the stones do which is let the fans vote on one song to be played out of 4-5 choices. Something like that would be with Brian mainly because only the hardcore fans like us would vote!  ;D



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on September 26, 2017, 07:15:48 PM
Here's my go at one.

(Brian unless noted) (all falsetto parts by Matt)

Our Prayer
Heroes & Villains
California Girls
Girl Don’t Tell Me
In My Room
Honkin’ Down The Highway (Al)
Aren’t You Glad
I’d Love Just Once To See You
The Little Girl I Once Knew (Al)
Surfer Girl
Wake The World
Busy Doin’ Nothin
Darlin’ (Darian)
I Do (Brian & Al)
Melt Away
Don’t Worry Baby (Matt)
You’re So Good To Me (Al)
What Love Can Do (“here’s a song written by me and Burt Bacharach”)
Marcella
Do It Again
I Get Around

Wouldn’t It Be Nice (Al)
I’m Waiting For The Day
Sloop John B (Al)
I Just Wasn’t Made For These Times
The Night Was So Young
Soulful Old Man Sunshine (Al)
Let Him Run Wild (Matt)
Guess I’m Dumb (Brian & Al)
Your Imagination
Caroline, No
Sail On, Sailor
Susie Cincinatti (Al)
Surf’s Up
Good Vibrations

Help Me Rhonda (Al)
All Summer Long
Barbara Ann
Fun Fun Fun
Love & Mercy


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on September 27, 2017, 08:11:44 AM
Here's my go at one.

(Brian unless noted) (all falsetto parts by Matt)

Our Prayer
Heroes & Villains
California Girls
Girl Don’t Tell Me
In My Room
Honkin’ Down The Highway (Al)
Aren’t You Glad
I’d Love Just Once To See You
The Little Girl I Once Knew (Al)
Surfer Girl
Wake The World
Busy Doin’ Nothin
Darlin’ (Darian)
I Do (Brian & Al)
Melt Away
Don’t Worry Baby (Matt)
You’re So Good To Me (Al)
What Love Can Do (“here’s a song written by me and Burt Bacharach”)
Marcella
Do It Again
I Get Around

Wouldn’t It Be Nice (Al)
I’m Waiting For The Day
Sloop John B (Al)
I Just Wasn’t Made For These Times
The Night Was So Young
Soulful Old Man Sunshine (Al)
Let Him Run Wild (Matt)
Guess I’m Dumb (Brian & Al)
Your Imagination
Caroline, No
Sail On, Sailor
Susie Cincinatti (Al)
Surf’s Up
Good Vibrations

Help Me Rhonda (Al)
All Summer Long
Barbara Ann
Fun Fun Fun
Love & Mercy


I think that list, which has great songs, veers more towards fan wish list and less towards plausible. Brian has specifically said he doesn't like doing the verbose songs like "Busy Doin' Nothin'" or "Surf's Up", so while it's certainly possible he might do those again, they're probably never going to be in regular rotation (unless he does another "Smile" tour I suppose).

I don't see them digging into multiple obscure back catalog BB songs like "I Do" and "Soulful Old Man Sunshine", or "Guess I'm Dumb." (Matt would sound great on that one, though!).

"Susie Cincinnati" isn't entire implausible, though they'd probably have to lower the key (like they did with "Cotton Fields").

I don't envision Brian digging back into his solo catalog for something like "What Love Can Do." He didn't even do that one live when it came out initially. I could see a few select songs like "Your Imagination" happening, as he briefly resurrected that one in 2013.   

I also don't think he'd keep *that many* PS songs in the setlist, *and* not do "God Only Knows." Given his clear boredom with the PS songs, I'd advise he give all PS songs a break on the next tour, with the likely exception of WIBN/Sloop/GOK that most shows have included.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on September 27, 2017, 09:14:42 AM
Here's my go at one.

(Brian unless noted) (all falsetto parts by Matt)

Our Prayer
Heroes & Villains
California Girls
Girl Don’t Tell Me
In My Room
Honkin’ Down The Highway (Al)
Aren’t You Glad
I’d Love Just Once To See You
The Little Girl I Once Knew (Al)
Surfer Girl
Wake The World
Busy Doin’ Nothin
Darlin’ (Darian)
Melt Away
Don’t Worry Baby (Matt)
You’re So Good To Me (Al)
What Love Can Do (“here’s a song written by me and Burt Bacharach”)
Marcella
Do It Again
I Get Around

Wouldn’t It Be Nice (Al)
I’m Waiting For The Day
Sloop John B (Al)
I Just Wasn’t Made For These Times
God Only Knows
The Night Was So Young
Soulful Old Man Sunshine (Al)
Let Him Run Wild (Matt)
Guess I’m Dumb (Brian & Al)
Your Imagination
Caroline, No
Sail On, Sailor
Susie Cincinatti (Al)
Surf’s Up
Good Vibrations

Help Me Rhonda (Al)
All Summer Long
Barbara Ann
Fun Fun Fun
Love & Mercy


I think that list, which has great songs, veers more towards fan wish list and less towards plausible. Brian has specifically said he doesn't like doing the verbose songs like "Busy Doin' Nothin'" or "Surf's Up", so while it's certainly possible he might do those again, they're probably never going to be in regular rotation (unless he does another "Smile" tour I suppose).

I don't see them digging into multiple obscure back catalog BB songs like "I Do" and "Soulful Old Man Sunshine", or "Guess I'm Dumb." (Matt would sound great on that one, though!).

"Susie Cincinnati" isn't entire implausible, though they'd probably have to lower the key (like they did with "Cotton Fields").

I don't envision Brian digging back into his solo catalog for something like "What Love Can Do." He didn't even do that one live when it came out initially. I could see a few select songs like "Your Imagination" happening, as he briefly resurrected that one in 2013.   

I also don't think he'd keep *that many* PS songs in the setlist, *and* not do "God Only Knows." Given his clear boredom with the PS songs, I'd advise he give all PS songs a break on the next tour, with the likely exception of WIBN/Sloop/GOK that most shows have included.

The omission of God Only Knows was an error on my part. I updated my list to include it, taking out "I Do", because that probably wouldn't work.

Even if it's not a Pet Sounds show, I feel he should do at least a few of the album cuts.

This whole idea is (mostly) fantasy. I don't see choices upthread like Hold On Dear Brother, Leaving This Town or Let It Shine making the cut, anyway.

I tried to include many hits (but not all - leave most of the surf and car stuff to Mike's band), and also gems that would go down well with the audience.

Note that I didn't include Blondie - in this dream, he's off with The Flame doing killer reunion shows.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: marcella27 on September 27, 2017, 10:58:02 AM
They played four bars of Suzie Cincinnati at Radio City Music Hall, during the band introductions (for Al).  I nearly lost it!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on September 27, 2017, 11:13:57 AM
I don't see choices upthread like Hold On Dear Brother, Leaving This Town or Let It Shine making the cut, anyway.

"Hold On Dear Brother" has already been performed once for the PBS taping; I think that places it firmly in "plausible" territory at least.

"Leaving This Town" was rehearsed for 2016 and even appeared on the first setlist of the tour as alternate selection.

"Let It Shine" was a regular in the setlist in late 2000.

Past setlist picks obviously don't guarantee any given selection will return, but a song performed in the past is more likely.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on September 27, 2017, 11:24:50 AM
They played four bars of Suzie Cincinnati at Radio City Music Hall, during the band introductions (for Al).  I nearly lost it!

One of the amazing but also frustrating things about Brian's band is that it's 100% plausible that they could knock out just about any imaginable song. It's not like, say, the 1981 Beach Boys when you can't blame them too much for not trying to do "Surf's Up" or something; they couldn't have pulled it off.

But all of the deep cuts and Al songs and Blondie songs, just about anything you could imagine, *this* band could pull off. I imagine in my head some eccentric, diverse selections that would cater to them and Brian's abilities, songs like "Goin' On" or "Santa Ana Winds" or "Airplane", etc.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: marcella27 on September 27, 2017, 11:32:51 AM
I was at the show on Saturday at Radio City Music Hall.  I've seen several shows during this tour, the earliest being June 2016 and the most recent being end of April 2017.  I went into the Radio City show with high expectations, just because Brian mentions playing at the venue in the book and I think he sees it as an "important" venue.  I had the sense that he was actually nervous, and he seemed off to me (compared to the AMAZING April 2017 show in Newark, during which he was joking and the whole band seemed to be having a really good time).  The show started off with him shouting for his piano tech, so something wasn't right at the start, and maybe that threw him off?  He didn't do much talking and at one point started to say something, then said "never mind".  It wasn't a bad performance, but he seemed less relaxed than I've seen him on other shows on this tour.  As much as I'd happily pay to see this band every night for the rest of my life, I think Brian needs a break.  The tour has gone on for a long time with relatively short breaks.  It would be hard for anyone, and extra-hard for a 75-year old with physical issues.  I have seen Brian give excellent performances on this tour and I do think he still has it in him, I just hope he gets a good, long, refreshing break and can then go back on tour.

The first set was excellent, and pretty much everything I could ask for (okay, I'd add Do it Again, but that's just me being greedy).  They played Let the Wind Blow, I'd Love Just Once to See You, Aren't You Glad, Darlin, and Wild Honey.  Five Wild Honey songs!  Heaven.  Plus some relatively deeper cuts like Let Him Run Wild and Salt Lake City.  And of course Feel Flows (very nice of Blondie to point out that Carl wrote the song, I thought).  

Having said all that, the audience was relatively quiet.  I had really good seats at the front near the "VIP" section and a third of those people arrived late and wandered in and out with drinks and whatnot.  It was obvious they were not all hardcore fans but rather people for whom it's not a big deal shelling out 250 or 500 dollars for tickets.

Finally, I have to say (again) that Al is unbelievable.  His voice is so strong and good, and after playing for two and a half hours, he ran across the stage waving at the audience as though he was just out for a morning jog.  The word spry comes to mind.  He seemed to be having a lot of fun, and it's a joy to see him interact with Brian.  



  



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: marcella27 on September 27, 2017, 11:42:41 AM
They played four bars of Suzie Cincinnati at Radio City Music Hall, during the band introductions (for Al).  I nearly lost it!

One of the amazing but also frustrating things about Brian's band is that it's 100% plausible that they could knock out just about any imaginable song. It's not like, say, the 1981 Beach Boys when you can't blame them too much for not trying to do "Surf's Up" or something; they couldn't have pulled it off.

But all of the deep cuts and Al songs and Blondie songs, just about anything you could imagine, *this* band could pull off. I imagine in my head some eccentric, diverse selections that would cater to them and Brian's abilities, songs like "Goin' On" or "Santa Ana Winds" or "Airplane", etc.

I agree completely.  I'm sure there's no song in the catalogue they couldn't pull off remarkably well.  I know you've said this before, but in my fantasies I imagine Blondie having a little set to himself, where he could do songs like Leaving This Town, Funky Pretty, maybe even I Was Made to Love Her, and a bunch of extra songs for Al (Suzie Cincinnati, Airplane, Time to Get Alone).   


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on September 27, 2017, 12:04:34 PM
I don't think Al is every going to get a huge showcase within Brian's show.

The best we could hope for is that Al can maybe score a deal to film a night or two of shows with most of Brian's band backing him and present a truly Al-centric setlist. He could do an "Al Jardine & Friends" show and maybe still have Blondie and David Marks drop by for a song or two. But I know there's no way an "Al Jardine" tour could afford Brian's band. But maybe someone could pony up the money to get them on stage for a night or two for a Blu-ray/live album shoot.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Mr. Wilson on September 27, 2017, 11:32:44 PM
GREAT IDEA.. Have an investor fund  a live show and film it.. Al Jardine and friends..With blondie and david.  And BW tour band.. Heck have BW do a guest shot for a couple of songs at end.. Im sure all us fans would buy it...keep the budget tight also.. And what happened to the Mike and Bruce show filmed for austin city limits or something like that.. We talked about it a few years ago.. Anyone ever seen it on TV ?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on September 28, 2017, 06:37:46 AM
GREAT IDEA.. Have an investor fund  a live show and film it.. Al Jardine and friends..With blondie and david.  And BW tour band.. Heck have BW do a guest shot for a couple of songs at end.. Im sure all us fans would buy it...keep the budget tight also.. And what happened to the Mike and Bruce show filmed for austin city limits or something like that.. We talked about it a few years ago.. Anyone ever seen it on TV ?

I don't think Mike's band did an "Austin City Limits" TV shoot. They simply played the "ACL Live" venue, which hosts regular gigs as well. Brian also played there last year as I recall (or was it this year?).


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: marcella27 on September 29, 2017, 07:21:08 AM
There's a post on Al Jardine's facebook today page about Dennis Dragon.  In it he mentions that they decided to add Suzie Cincinnatti to the set...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on September 29, 2017, 07:27:48 AM
There's a post on Al Jardine's facebook today page about Darryl Dragon.  In it he mentions that they decided to add Suzie Cincinnatti to the set...

Very interesting. I saw Al's post earlier in the day and he hadn't mentioned it. It looks like he went back and added to his post that they were planning to do the song.

It'll be interesting especially if it *actually* makes it into the setlist. It hasn't been performed live by any BB-related band as far as I know since 1977. I think Al was going to do it in the early 2000s for his cancelled Pop Overthrow Festival gig, but that's about it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: marcella27 on September 29, 2017, 08:01:26 AM
There's a post on Al Jardine's facebook today page about Darryl Dragon.  In it he mentions that they decided to add Suzie Cincinnatti to the set...

Very interesting. I saw Al's post earlier in the day and he hadn't mentioned it. It looks like he went back and added to his post that they were planning to do the song.

It'll be interesting especially if it *actually* makes it into the setlist. It hasn't been performed live by any BB-related band as far as I know since 1977. I think Al was going to do it in the early 2000s for his cancelled Pop Overthrow Festival gig, but that's about it.

I hope it does - it's a great song and seems like a natural in a concert setting given its upbeat tempo. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on September 29, 2017, 08:02:52 AM
There's a post on Al Jardine's facebook today page about Darryl Dragon.  In it he mentions that they decided to add Suzie Cincinnatti to the set...

Very interesting. I saw Al's post earlier in the day and he hadn't mentioned it. It looks like he went back and added to his post that they were planning to do the song.

It'll be interesting especially if it *actually* makes it into the setlist. It hasn't been performed live by any BB-related band as far as I know since 1977. I think Al was going to do it in the early 2000s for his cancelled Pop Overthrow Festival gig, but that's about it.

I hope it does - it's a great song and seems like a natural in a concert setting given its upbeat tempo. 

It'll be interesting to see if they drop the key a bit. I would guess they would, similar to what they've done with "Cotton Fields" in recent years.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: marcella27 on September 29, 2017, 07:42:10 PM
This may seem like an odd question but does anyone know how to contact band members?  We met Darian last week and he was super-nice and took the time to have a real conversation.  At the time I didn't say much because I was a little awed but it would be nice to let him know how much he's appreciated by us fans. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Wirestone on September 29, 2017, 08:08:56 PM
This may seem like an odd question but does anyone know how to contact band members?  We met Darian last week and he was super-nice and took the time to have a real conversation.  At the time I didn't say much because I was a little awed but it would be nice to let him know how much he's appreciated by us fans. 

Most are active on Facebook.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Tony S on September 30, 2017, 04:24:41 AM
At The Count Basie in Red Bank earlier this week Susie Cincinnati was played briefly during Al's band introduction near the end of the show. It was pretty cool I thought they were actually going to go into it at that point


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: marcella27 on September 30, 2017, 09:39:04 AM
This may seem like an odd question but does anyone know how to contact band members?  We met Darian last week and he was super-nice and took the time to have a real conversation.  At the time I didn't say much because I was a little awed but it would be nice to let him know how much he's appreciated by us fans. 

Most are active on Facebook.

Thanks.  Looks like Darian hasn't been active there for a while, though. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Wirestone on September 30, 2017, 09:47:57 AM
This may seem like an odd question but does anyone know how to contact band members?  We met Darian last week and he was super-nice and took the time to have a real conversation.  At the time I didn't say much because I was a little awed but it would be nice to let him know how much he's appreciated by us fans.  

Most are active on Facebook.

Thanks.  Looks like Darian hasn't been active there for a while, though.  

He is. You likely have to be his friend to see it. Send him a request. Many fans are friends of the band members.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Pablo. on September 30, 2017, 12:40:51 PM
I was at the show on Saturday at Radio City Music Hall.  I've seen several shows during this tour, the earliest being June 2016 and the most recent being end of April 2017.  I went into the Radio City show with high expectations, just because Brian mentions playing at the venue in the book and I think he sees it as an "important" venue.  I had the sense that he was actually nervous, and he seemed off to me (compared to the AMAZING April 2017 show in Newark, during which he was joking and the whole band seemed to be having a really good time).  The show started off with him shouting for his piano tech, so something wasn't right at the start, and maybe that threw him off?  He didn't do much talking and at one point started to say something, then said "never mind".  It wasn't a bad performance, but he seemed less relaxed than I've seen him on other shows on this tour.  As much as I'd happily pay to see this band every night for the rest of my life, I think Brian needs a break.  The tour has gone on for a long time with relatively short breaks.  It would be hard for anyone, and extra-hard for a 75-year old with physical issues.  I have seen Brian give excellent performances on this tour and I do think he still has it in him, I just hope he gets a good, long, refreshing break and can then go back on tour.

The first set was excellent, and pretty much everything I could ask for (okay, I'd add Do it Again, but that's just me being greedy).  They played Let the Wind Blow, I'd Love Just Once to See You, Aren't You Glad, Darlin, and Wild Honey.  Five Wild Honey songs!  Heaven.  Plus some relatively deeper cuts like Let Him Run Wild and Salt Lake City.  And of course Feel Flows (very nice of Blondie to point out that Carl wrote the song, I thought). 

Having said all that, the audience was relatively quiet.  I had really good seats at the front near the "VIP" section and a third of those people arrived late and wandered in and out with drinks and whatnot.  It was obvious they were not all hardcore fans but rather people for whom it's not a big deal shelling out 250 or 500 dollars for tickets.

Finally, I have to say (again) that Al is unbelievable.  His voice is so strong and good, and after playing for two and a half hours, he ran across the stage waving at the audience as though he was just out for a morning jog.  The word spry comes to mind.  He seemed to be having a lot of fun, and it's a joy to see him interact with Brian. 


Actually, Brian was equally off on the previous night at Boston (and yes, each show had its share of people walking in late, beers  in hand. Sorry, but for my very limited experience, that seems a very American way to behave during a show i.e. coming back late after intermission. Of course, but shows had its share or fans and respecteful people) I remember BW smiling a lot on videos (official or not). Don't how many of those smiles were rehearsed (or specially filmed as inserts for the pro videos), but I remember only half a smile in Boston.

Having said that, I expected Brian to be more tired at Radio City, having playing two nights in a row. But that was not the case. Anyway, the thing he shouted before the beginning that you mention was the same he shouted at Boston when he forgot the ILJOTSY lyrics. Obviously Brian, more than your typical performer, needs everything to be in order when it comes to performing live.

I also noticed the "nevermind" episode. Wish I could have understood what he was trying to say...

One thing I like to add: is very touching the affection band members have for him. Specially little details like Darian (who also manages to quote Rhapsody in Blue at the end of FFF) giving him a massage during one of the encores. I regret not buying Look Listen Vibrate Smile at a record shop I didn't had the chance to come back. I noticed Darian was one of the contributors, but now I read at other thread that Nicky and Probyn also contributed. I think it's hard to measure what dream of a lifetime must be for them to be such an essential part of Brian's music for the last two decades.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Rocker on September 30, 2017, 01:34:40 PM
Found these very good videos on youtube. They are from the show on Sept. 22nd in Boston.
I think "Let the wind blow" is played too fast. Apart from that, great recreation of the studio recording

Let the wind blow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_soLKOgbfG4


Aren't you glad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMPFqm7r5Bc


Don't worry baby   (Matt blowing your mind as usual!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa5jos33HJo


Good vibrations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqLrNuAS9mQ


There are a lot more on the user's channel


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 30, 2017, 04:09:17 PM
Aren't You Glad? Yes I am. Sounds great :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: marcella27 on October 01, 2017, 08:47:33 PM
This may seem like an odd question but does anyone know how to contact band members?  We met Darian last week and he was super-nice and took the time to have a real conversation.  At the time I didn't say much because I was a little awed but it would be nice to let him know how much he's appreciated by us fans.  

Most are active on Facebook.

Thanks.  Looks like Darian hasn't been active there for a while, though.  

He is. You likely have to be his friend to see it. Send him a request. Many fans are friends of the band members.

Thanks!  I'll do that. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: TV Forces on October 04, 2017, 09:41:11 PM
"Susie Cincinnati" played in Toledo tonight..

Al says it was the first time since 1976.

The Wild Honey trilogy was AWESOME!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll on October 05, 2017, 01:55:16 AM
Found these very good videos on youtube. They are from the show on Sept. 22nd in Boston.
I think "Let the wind blow" is played too fast. Apart from that, great recreation of the studio recording

Let the wind blow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_soLKOgbfG4


Aren't you glad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMPFqm7r5Bc


Don't worry baby   (Matt blowing your mind as usual!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa5jos33HJo


Good vibrations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqLrNuAS9mQ


There are a lot more on the user's channel


Band sounds great!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: TV Forces on October 05, 2017, 08:08:51 AM
Can someone please remind me of the name of the girl who currently plays in Brian's band?
She used to play with Heart.

I can't find anything online with names of the current line-up.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on October 05, 2017, 08:11:07 AM
Can someone please remind me of the name of the girl who currently plays in Brian's band?
She used to play with Heart.

I can't find anything online with names of the current line-up.

Debbie Shair.  Apparently, Darian's girlfriend, and I think he's played with Heart as well. 

They both play the keys with BW, and have the same initials. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Fall Breaks on October 07, 2017, 01:36:19 AM
"Susie Cincinnati" played in Toledo tonight..

Al says it was the first time since 1976.

The Wild Honey trilogy was AWESOME!
Wow! How did it sound? What key?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: All Summer Long on October 07, 2017, 09:01:09 AM
Can someone please remind me of the name of the girl who currently plays in Brian's band?
She used to play with Heart.

I can't find anything online with names of the current line-up.


I can tell you it's at least:
Probyn Gregory - guitars, electro-theremin, trumpet, trombone
Nicky Walusko - guitars
Paul Von Mertens - saxophones, flutes, harmonicas
Mike D'Amico - drums
Bob Lizik - bass
Debbie Shair - keyboards
Nelson Bragg - percussion
Darian Sahanaja - keyboards, mallets (but there wa a substitute I can't remember the name of who did at least the New Bedford show this year and probably a lot of other shows because people keep saying that Darian has had other commitments)

plus Blondie and Al


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Tony S on October 08, 2017, 01:49:32 PM
Would love to see a video of Susie Cincinnati live


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Wirestone on October 08, 2017, 02:32:08 PM
Can someone please remind me of the name of the girl who currently plays in Brian's band?
She used to play with Heart.

I can't find anything online with names of the current line-up.


I can tell you it's at least:
Probyn Gregory - guitars, electro-theremin, trumpet, trombone
Nicky Walusko - guitars
Paul Von Mertens - saxophones, flutes, harmonicas
Mike D'Amico - drums
Bob Lizik - bass
Debbie Shair - keyboards
Nelson Bragg - percussion
Darian Sahanaja - keyboards, mallets (but there wa a substitute I can't remember the name of who did at least the New Bedford show this year and probably a lot of other shows because people keep saying that Darian has had other commitments)

plus Blondie and Al

Billy Hinsche and Gary Griffin have also played keyboards for extended periods on this tour. Darian and Debbie have done fewer shows.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: B.E. on October 08, 2017, 02:35:59 PM
Would love to see a video of Susie Cincinnati live

Me too.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Mark H. on October 09, 2017, 09:44:47 AM
Al sang Susie Cincinnati Saturday night at Belterra in Indiana.  That was unexpected and sounded great. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: lastofmykind on October 09, 2017, 10:40:44 AM
Am I the only one that refuses to pay the bloated ticket prices he was commanding for this Pet Sounds Final Performaces malarky?  Im a huge Brian fan but I just find this tour an insult to my wallet and my intelligence.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on October 09, 2017, 11:06:20 AM
Am I the only one that refuses to pay the bloated ticket prices he was commanding for this Pet Sounds Final Performaces malarky?  Im a huge Brian fan but I just find this tour an insult to my wallet and my intelligence.

I did notice a big increase in ticket prices from the NPP Tour to the PS Tour.  Although having never seen PS live in the flesh, I still forked ovee the cash. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Wirestone on October 09, 2017, 11:09:08 AM
Am I the only one that refuses to pay the bloated ticket prices he was commanding for this Pet Sounds Final Performaces malarky?  Im a huge Brian fan but I just find this tour an insult to my wallet and my intelligence.

The shows in my area have been in line with other performers. I paid less than 100 for the two shows I attended, and it looks like a bunch of tickets for his show on the 14th are 40 bucks.

Are you referring to the VIP packages, by chance?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on October 09, 2017, 11:32:05 AM
Am I the only one that refuses to pay the bloated ticket prices he was commanding for this Pet Sounds Final Performaces malarky?  Im a huge Brian fan but I just find this tour an insult to my wallet and my intelligence.

A quick scan of Ticketmaster and StubHub will show that tickets for Brian's upcoming shows in October range from around 40 bucks and up. Tickets for Mike Love range from around 40 bucks and up. Some of the prices on both tours went higher due to the venue and supply vs. demand where re-sellers may have the only tickets available. They seem to be in line with the averages.

So what's the gripe? If the prices don't suit wallets or intelligence in that order, don't go! Simple as that.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on October 09, 2017, 12:21:23 PM
Am I the only one that refuses to pay the bloated ticket prices he was commanding for this Pet Sounds Final Performaces malarky?  Im a huge Brian fan but I just find this tour an insult to my wallet and my intelligence.

I did notice a big increase in ticket prices from the NPP Tour to the PS Tour.  Although having never seen PS live in the flesh, I still forked ovee the cash. 

Prices vary relatively widely from market to market and venue to venue. Brian has never set one price across an entire tour. So you may see an uptick in price in your market (either due to a different venue or other external factors), while there maybe fluctuations downward in others.

It's cheaper to see Brian at the Big Fresno Fair (I'm guessing) in 2017 than it was to see him at some indoor, higher end venues in 2015 or 2014, etc.

I do think certain markets tend to have higher prices, more to do with what the available venues are. He may more often hit a casino in, say, Indiana, versus more often a higher end indoor theater in San Francisco or NYC.

I did a big price break down this year or last in some thread, and I do think being in the SF Bay Area I've seen higher prices compared to other markets. But from tour to tour in the last few years, there hasn't been a huge difference. In fact, I think I paid less in 2016 than I did in 2015.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: blueeyedtreefrog on October 09, 2017, 12:34:17 PM
As a Brazilian, I just think you guys are so lucky to have the opportunity of seeing Brian live... Also, when international musicians play here, tickets usually cost at least 100 dollars. So, you're really, really lucky, hehehe.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on October 10, 2017, 06:59:49 AM
Video of "Susie Cincinnati" from 10/6:

https://youtu.be/zqgwj7mWPNA

Al sounds great!

They did drop the key as I would have expected. Sounds great.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Rocker on October 10, 2017, 08:06:06 AM
Video of "Susie Cincinnati" from 10/6:

https://youtu.be/zqgwj7mWPNA

Al sounds great!

They did drop the key as I would have expected. Sounds great.


Very cool. Thank you!
I like that Al gets a couple of his own rarities in the show while still keeping it a Brian Wilson concert

I just listened to the Beach Boys recording of the song and still feel that it should have been at least a Top 20 hit. The car sounds are just fantastic on the recording


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on October 10, 2017, 08:15:55 AM
Video of "Susie Cincinnati" from 10/6:

https://youtu.be/zqgwj7mWPNA

Al sounds great!

They did drop the key as I would have expected. Sounds great.
Love it!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Mr. Wilson on October 10, 2017, 08:27:48 AM
YEA..!! Suzi rocks .!  Oh my with this addition and the Wild Honey songs im gonna have to make it to Costa Mesa Ca for BW last concert..  It"s obvious Melinda check"s out this board.. Songs we wanted are being added to set list..  What a pleasant surprise..!  When they put out a DVD next year i hope they compile these songs and others on  a 2nd disk..


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: KDS on October 10, 2017, 08:40:13 AM
YEA..!! Suzi rocks .!  Oh my with this addition and the Wild Honey songs im gonna have to make it to Costa Mesa Ca for BW last concert..  It"s obvious Melinda check"s out this board.. Songs we wanted are being added to set list..  What a pleasant surprise..!  When they put out a DVD next year i hope they compile these songs and others on  a 2nd disk..

Unfortunately, I don't think any 2017 shows with the additional WH songs have been filmed.   I wish Brian would release soundboard live recordings as artists like The Who, Pearl Jam, and John Fogerty have done in the past. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on October 10, 2017, 06:39:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFlFvgK1UHU


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: tpesky on October 10, 2017, 06:40:46 PM
Sounds great! That song always sounded better live. Brian truly does enjoy listening to Al sing still after all these years.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Tony S on October 11, 2017, 10:43:52 AM
Thanks for posting the video to Susie Cincinnati. That rocked!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Shane on October 13, 2017, 01:13:06 AM
I saw Brian this evening at the Fair in Fresno, California.  I have previously seen him about 3 years ago at two different venues.  I have to say, Brian just seems simply tired.  During the Pet Sounds album, he was missing vocal cues left and right, and after coming in two beats too late, he'd try to compensate by making up his own melodies and sometimes making up words.  In my head, I heard a young Brian yelling at session musicians, "You missed your cue at letter A!"    

The band was fantastic as usual, did a great job, but even they seemed a bit tired.  The lady in front of me had her phone up, and was googling "Brian Wilson health".  Below the search box, google suggested other related search terms, and among these was "Is Al Jardine Dead".

Speaking of Al, he certainly wasn't dead.  His voice sounds like 1965.  What a strong singer.  His son Matt also kicks ass.  Unfortunately I noticed that even the top of Brian's normal (not falsetto) range is gone, and Matt is covering for him.  It wasn't this way when I saw him 3 years ago.  Blondie sang Wild Honey and Sail On Sailor, both with long extended guitar solos.  He was prancing all over the stage during his solo.  My girlfriend remarked that he has moves like he's a member of the Rolling Stones.  I'll have to explain all that later to her.

The show opened with Blondie singing a very short version of "River Deep Mountain High", which was unexpected.  It closed with "Love And Mercy", a really emotional touch given the state of the world lately.  This was my first Brian show where this song was the closer.  It's a very different way to end a show, as most bands go out on the most exciting piece of music they can conjure.  This was almost like the end of a church service, a way of sending us all out in a peaceful positive state of mind.  I loved it.  It was the best part of the show by far for me.  Even if Brian was making up some of the words on the spot.    




Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: marcella27 on October 13, 2017, 10:23:04 AM
 The lady in front of me had her phone up, and was googling "Brian Wilson health".  Below the search box, google suggested other related search terms, and among these was "Is Al Jardine Dead".




That has to be one of the more depressing things I've read on this board. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: marcella27 on October 13, 2017, 10:27:51 AM
Video of "Susie Cincinnati" from 10/6:

https://youtu.be/zqgwj7mWPNA

Al sounds great!

They did drop the key as I would have expected. Sounds great.

It's so cool that they added this.  Sounds fantastic.  I love this song and only wish I could have seen it live.  I live in hope for another tour that will continue to feature some of the less obvious cuts. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on October 14, 2017, 04:37:23 PM
"Barbara Ann" was cut last night. Unfortunately, it was simply due to a sound curfew:

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/the-mountain-winery-saratoga-ca-63e3f2af.html


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Mr. Wilson on October 15, 2017, 04:55:09 PM
I was at the last show in Costa Mesa Ca.. OUTSTANDING show the best of the 3 ive seen this year.. yes BW look tired and with the heavy touring last couple of years his voice is blown out.. he needs a nice long rest to save his voice.. al and matt sang more leads on PS part of show ..  I looked at the set list from previous message and they didnt do SD  LDC YSGM LHRW.. for the life of me i cant remember what they played instead.. the whole show without intermission was about 2hr 15 min..  and yes BW enjoys the 1st set alot..the new WH songs and susi cincinati were GREAT..!! Probyn is playing a strat 12 string.. fender doesnt make a strat 12 string to my knowledge. so who made it i do not know.  the female that played keyboards was excellent.. she sang played and danced the whole show. also she was grinning from ear to ear the whole show.. she REALLY loves playing in the band and was a joy to watch.  now Blondie is another matter.. he should take his LEAD guitar playing more seriously.  i know he isnt al dimeola or a jeff beck or clapton but he does play well.. on this tour his solos consisted of double picking the e + b string up and down the neck and it sounded like freakin NOISE..  a terrible noise.. very disapointed  Blondie..!! the band was  HOT as usual with LOTS of energy.. overall a GREAT nite of music.. hey Brian go home and rest your voice and it will come back.. GOD bless BW and his band.. and thanks for the MEMORIES..


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on October 16, 2017, 08:35:49 AM
Updated the top post with the rest of the available setlists from the last leg of the tour. There are still a few gaps in available setlists (including a few on the last leg), so if anyone knows of one, feel free to mention it here and/or link to setlist.fm.

I've also started a 2018 tour thread for any potential dates (there are three so far), which is linked at the bottom of the top post in this thread and can be seen here:

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,25544.0.html

I'll also of course add any dates to this thread if any more 2017 shows materialize.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on October 16, 2017, 02:09:49 PM
Thanks for keeping this thread going all year, HeyJude!

Great setlist from CA. Susie Cincinnati/Let the Wind Blow/I'd Love Just Once To See You/Aren't You Glad is a pretty amazing string of deep cuts.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: acedecade75 on October 16, 2017, 06:39:18 PM
"Barbara Ann" was cut last night. Unfortunately, it was simply due to a sound curfew:

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2017/the-mountain-winery-saratoga-ca-63e3f2af.html

If they had to cut anything, I'm glad it was Barbara Ann.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Rocker on October 17, 2017, 02:38:27 AM
More Susie Cincinnatis:

Oct. 13th:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFbx2tv7SYE


Oct. 14th ("our good boy Al Jardine"):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1G1YZakoCU


And "Feel flows" from oct. 14th:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2_zqFkqelE



Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: LostArt on October 17, 2017, 10:07:05 AM
Probyn is playing a strat 12 string.. fender doesnt make a strat 12 string to my knowledge. so who made it i do not know. 

Fender did make a 12 string Stratocaster for a few years ('85 to '96 and reissued from '05 to '09)

(http://d2vhprqki2fot3.cloudfront.net/experience/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Electric-XIIe.jpg)

They also made a 12 string Telecaster for a short time.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: HeyJude on October 17, 2017, 11:14:13 AM
There are also about a ten billion Strat/Tele, etc. clones out there. Custom necks/alternate necks can also be added on.

Carl's latter-era 12-string, as I recall, is an Epiphone Riviera with a Gibson replacement neck.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Mr. Wilson on October 17, 2017, 11:31:38 PM
well thanks for the fender update.. Probyn does play one..


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - 2017 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds - The Final Performances)
Post by: Pretty Funky on October 29, 2017, 03:05:58 PM
Ha. Brian bailed on the '....in the nude' ending.  :lol

Fixed!  :lol

https://youtu.be/iaE2CljuTL0