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Title: Brian Wilson - Pet Sounds Tour Program
Post by: KDS on August 24, 2016, 12:58:15 PM
So, I noticed something interesting in the Pet Sounds Tour Program I picked up at last night's concert. 

There's a section with some outtakes from the album cover photo shoot, featuring Brian, Dennis, Carl, and Al. 

Does the fact that Mike's image was not used anywhere an indication of the current relationship between Brian and Mike, or am I reading too much into it?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - Pet Sounds Tour Program
Post by: HeyJude on August 24, 2016, 01:01:34 PM
So, I noticed something interesting in the Pet Sounds Tour Program I picked up at last night's concert.  

There's a section with some outtakes from the album cover photo shoot, featuring Brian, Dennis, Carl, and Al.  

Does the fact that Mike's image was not used anywhere an indication of the current relationship between Brian and Mike, or am I reading too much into it?

I think someone else raised this some time back on another thread (not sure which thread). It's certainly not impossible that they are choosing to leave Mike out due to the current rift. But there also are some potentially open questions as to what sort of payment might be due to people for using their likeness in such a product.

Also keep in mind that Brian was literally sued by Mike back in the 2000s for using a pic of the full BBs on a giveaway CD. So perhaps after that point, the safest thing to do is simply keep Mike out of it to avoid even the potential for litigation.

If a guy talked s**t about me in interviews all the time and previously sued me for using his picture on a freebie CD, I wouldn't hesitate a great deal about just choosing to leave him out of my tour program.

Nobody whose opinion matters doesn't know Mike was in the band and on the album, so it isn't a big deal in my mind.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - Pet Sounds Tour Program
Post by: bossaroo on August 24, 2016, 06:44:53 PM
it's pretty clearly intentional. now watch Mike sue for being excluded from the program.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - Pet Sounds Tour Program
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on August 24, 2016, 07:02:21 PM
And if that happens, there is no defending that IMHO.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - Pet Sounds Tour Program
Post by: Pretty Funky on August 24, 2016, 07:04:04 PM
I believe video played at M&B shows exclude Brian (and Al ?) so there must be some agreement not to use the others likeness in relation to touring. All rather sad and the reason I did not buy a PS50 tour program.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - Pet Sounds Tour Program
Post by: KDS on August 24, 2016, 07:19:47 PM
I believe video played at M&B shows exclude Brian (and Al ?) so there must be some agreement not to use the others likeness in relation to touring. All rather sad and the reason I did not buy a PS50 tour program.

Yep M&B definitely use footage of Brian and Al throughout.   Maybe it's part of the BRI agreement where they can use the band name and likenesses of former members.   

Even so, the program is a nice keepsake from the tour. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - Pet Sounds Tour Program
Post by: bossaroo on August 24, 2016, 07:22:04 PM
the program is great with tons of unseen photos. very glad i purchased it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson - Pet Sounds Tour Program
Post by: HeyJude on August 24, 2016, 09:25:03 PM
My recollection is that in 2013 as Mike first went back out and used the video screen presentation, he was using pictures and/or footage of Brian and Al and was asked to stop doing so. At some later date, they apparently made nice on this issue because Brian and Al reportedly reappeared on the video screen at shows at some later date.