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Title: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: chaki on December 10, 2015, 11:27:08 AM
I want to make a ultimate BBs DIRGE MIXTAPE. What other songs are in this style?


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: wantsomecorn on December 10, 2015, 11:30:48 AM
Our Team.


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: Emily on December 10, 2015, 11:40:04 AM
I must be missing something... 'dirge' as in funereal music?


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: SBonilla on December 10, 2015, 11:41:35 AM
I want to make a ultimate BBs DIRGE MIXTAPE. What other songs are in this style?
Dirge is not a style. It is a mood. And, it can indicate tempo in music.

The titles listed above are not 'dirges.'


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: chaki on December 10, 2015, 11:44:19 AM
blah blah blah. any other tracks in this style? thanks for the suggestion of our team!


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: Emily on December 10, 2015, 11:48:28 AM
blah blah blah. any other tracks in this style? thanks for the suggestion of our team!
OK... I was honestly wondering what you meant.


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: SBonilla on December 10, 2015, 11:50:02 AM
blah blah blah. any other tracks in this style? thanks for the suggestion of our team!


How about the unreleased "Funeral March For Chaki?"


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: KDS on December 10, 2015, 12:07:27 PM
blah blah blah. any other tracks in this style? thanks for the suggestion of our team!

Steamboat
Summer's Gone


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on December 10, 2015, 12:08:04 PM
Sounds good, but I'm not sure about "Had To Phone Ya' in there, unless you're using the Spring version. Anyway, I would add "Can't Wait Too Long", "Til I Die", "A Day In The Life Of A Tree", and maybe "Baby Blue".


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: JK on December 10, 2015, 12:39:07 PM
blah blah blah. any other tracks in this style? thanks for the suggestion of our team!


How about the unreleased "Funeral March For Chaki?"

This is the only possible candidate. I fail to hear anything even vaguely dirge-like in any of the others. 


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: AndrewHickey on December 10, 2015, 01:08:53 PM
blah blah blah. any other tracks in this style? thanks for the suggestion of our team!


How about the unreleased "Funeral March For Chaki?"

This is the only possible candidate. I fail to hear anything even vaguely dirge-like in any of the others. 

No, but it's very clear what the OP is asking for -- more songs that are at the slow end of mid-tempo, keyboard led, soft, repetitive, with quite a straight rather than swung rhythm.
Some that fit all or most of those criteria: Sail Plane Song, Til I Die, Baby Blue, Surf's Up, All I Wanna Do, Child Is Father of the Man, Steamboat.


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: chaki on December 10, 2015, 01:12:25 PM
thank you everyone! sorry i used "dirge" wrong!


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: Bicyclerider on December 10, 2015, 01:45:34 PM
Battle hymn of the Republic.


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: KDS on December 10, 2015, 01:51:09 PM
Here's a couple maybes:

Hold On Dear Brother

Country Air

Looking at Tomorrow





Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: JK on December 10, 2015, 02:12:11 PM
No, but it's very clear what the OP is asking for -- more songs that are at the slow end of mid-tempo, keyboard led, soft, repetitive, with quite a straight rather than swung rhythm.

Bit slow on the uptake here. Anyway...

Some or all of the following:

At My Window
Solar System
Feel Flows
Don't Talk
Forever
Leaving This Town
Our Sweet Love


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: hideyotsuburaya on December 10, 2015, 02:16:52 PM
practically none of the aforementioned titles qualifies as a 'dirge', so to speak, though LEAVING THIS TOWN comes somewhat close

but one not yet broached certainly does

BE STILL


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: JK on December 10, 2015, 02:39:49 PM
practically none of the aforementioned titles qualifies as a 'dirge', so to speak, though LEAVING THIS TOWN comes somewhat close

but one not yet broached certainly does

BE STILL

I can understand where you're coming from, but l'd prefer to call it a hymn. "Be Still" is if anything uplifting, a dirge is not...


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: Emily on December 10, 2015, 02:50:24 PM
blah blah blah. any other tracks in this style? thanks for the suggestion of our team!


How about the unreleased "Funeral March For Chaki?"

This is the only possible candidate. I fail to hear anything even vaguely dirge-like in any of the others. 

No, but it's very clear what the OP is asking for -- more songs that are at the slow end of mid-tempo, keyboard led, soft, repetitive, with quite a straight rather than swung rhythm.
Some that fit all or most of those criteria: Sail Plane Song, Til I Die, Baby Blue, Surf's Up, All I Wanna Do, Child Is Father of the Man, Steamboat.
Thanks for clarifying. It honestly wasn't clear to me. The similarity between the first two in the title was obvious to me, but not the latter two. I actually looked up 'dirge' before my first post to see if it had a meaning beyond my understanding. I meant no sarcasm.


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: hideyotsuburaya on December 11, 2015, 09:59:46 AM
BE STILL is a kind of hymn I suppose, but a particularly 'uplifting' one definitely it is not, and I am easily uplifted.  It has all the solemn plodding tone typical of a dirge IMO.  Most of the other song titles mentioned as possible dirge candidates are rife with uplifting qualities


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: HeyJude on December 11, 2015, 10:31:39 AM
blah blah blah. any other tracks in this style? thanks for the suggestion of our team!


How about the unreleased "Funeral March For Chaki?"

This is the only possible candidate. I fail to hear anything even vaguely dirge-like in any of the others. 

No, but it's very clear what the OP is asking for -- more songs that are at the slow end of mid-tempo, keyboard led, soft, repetitive, with quite a straight rather than swung rhythm.
Some that fit all or most of those criteria: Sail Plane Song, Til I Die, Baby Blue, Surf's Up, All I Wanna Do, Child Is Father of the Man, Steamboat.

I think you summed up the general idea nicely.

To the original post, I'd say though that "Had to Phone Ya" still doesn't fit the description especially.

Perhaps the song just has the illusion of being slightly peppy and upbeat, but I wouldn’t call it a “dirge” even if I were inclined to call things like “All This is That” or “Let the Wind Blow” dirges.


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: Jason Penick on December 11, 2015, 11:28:06 AM
Carry Me Home.


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: adamghost on December 11, 2015, 12:15:35 PM
I agree that these aren't necessarily "dirges" but man, "Steamboat" to me is the very definition of a dirge.  It just frickin' crawls.  Everybody has one song where they can't understand the love others have for it, "Steamboat" is it for me.

Gonna be an interesting tape!  Sounds like a good theme.  I'm not quite locked into the idea enough to offer a good suggestion though.


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: Alan Boyd on December 11, 2015, 01:30:16 PM
blah blah blah. any other tracks in this style? thanks for the suggestion of our team!

Mid tempo shuffles anchored by quarter note keyboard chord clusters?

Hmmm.

Off the top of my head....

Our Sweet Love?
Let Him Run Wild?
Aren't You Glad (too fast?)
I Wanna Pick You Up?

Is that the kind of thing you're looking for?


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: adamghost on December 11, 2015, 03:52:41 PM
blah blah blah. any other tracks in this style? thanks for the suggestion of our team!

Mid tempo shuffles anchored by quarter note keyboard chord clusters?

Hmmm.

Off the top of my head....

Our Sweet Love?
Let Him Run Wild?
Aren't You Glad (too fast?)
I Wanna Pick You Up?

Is that the kind of thing you're looking for?

Hereinafter "MTSABQNKCC"!


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: Eric Aniversario on December 12, 2015, 02:23:36 AM
I agree that these aren't necessarily "dirges" but man, "Steamboat" to me is the very definition of a dirge.  It just frickin' crawls.  Everybody has one song where they can't understand the love others have for it, "Steamboat" is it for me.

Gonna be an interesting tape!  Sounds like a good theme.  I'm not quite locked into the idea enough to offer a good suggestion though.

Steamboat was the slowest grower for me in the entire released BB catalog. I first heard it maybe around 1994 or so, didn't understand it. I think it finally clicked for me around 2011 or so. Now I love it.


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: John Manning on December 12, 2015, 02:37:53 AM
I agree that these aren't necessarily "dirges" but man, "Steamboat" to me is the very definition of a dirge.  It just frickin' crawls.  Everybody has one song where they can't understand the love others have for it, "Steamboat" is it for me.

Gonna be an interesting tape!  Sounds like a good theme.  I'm not quite locked into the idea enough to offer a good suggestion though.

Steamboat was the slowest grower for me in the entire released BB catalog. I first heard it maybe around 1994 or so, didn't understand it. I think it finally clicked for me around 2011 or so. Now I love it.

Steamboat's incredible. Evocative, dreamy, trance-like, industrial… give me another 20 like it!


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: Fall Breaks on December 12, 2015, 11:23:01 AM
I agree that these aren't necessarily "dirges" but man, "Steamboat" to me is the very definition of a dirge.  It just frickin' crawls.  Everybody has one song where they can't understand the love others have for it, "Steamboat" is it for me.

Gonna be an interesting tape!  Sounds like a good theme.  I'm not quite locked into the idea enough to offer a good suggestion though.

Steamboat was the slowest grower for me in the entire released BB catalog. I first heard it maybe around 1994 or so, didn't understand it. I think it finally clicked for me around 2011 or so. Now I love it.

Steamboat's incredible. Evocative, dreamy, trance-like, industrial… give me another 20 like it!
+1

If a factory would dream, this is what it would sound like.


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: petsoundsnola on December 15, 2015, 08:26:59 AM
Many tracks on Pacific Ocean Blue are dirge-like.


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: KDS on December 15, 2015, 11:29:07 AM
I agree that these aren't necessarily "dirges" but man, "Steamboat" to me is the very definition of a dirge.  It just frickin' crawls.  Everybody has one song where they can't understand the love others have for it, "Steamboat" is it for me.

Gonna be an interesting tape!  Sounds like a good theme.  I'm not quite locked into the idea enough to offer a good suggestion though.

Steamboat was the slowest grower for me in the entire released BB catalog. I first heard it maybe around 1994 or so, didn't understand it. I think it finally clicked for me around 2011 or so. Now I love it.

Steamboat's incredible. Evocative, dreamy, trance-like, industrial… give me another 20 like it!
+1

If a factory would dream, this is what it would sound like.

There are elements of Morning Christmas that remind me of Steamboat. 


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: John Manning on December 15, 2015, 01:23:48 PM
IS there a better word than "dirge" we could adopt here?  :o


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: JK on December 15, 2015, 01:50:12 PM
IS there a better word than "dirge" we could adopt here?  :o

It has nothing to do with mood, as the great variety of examples demonstrates.

Something along the lines of "medium pacer" perhaps?


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: Ron on December 15, 2015, 09:35:21 PM
It's too easy, but I've always heard "Til I Die" as a dirge.  It's just morbid, downright pitiful


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: Lonely Summer on December 15, 2015, 09:49:41 PM
I agree that these aren't necessarily "dirges" but man, "Steamboat" to me is the very definition of a dirge.  It just frickin' crawls.  Everybody has one song where they can't understand the love others have for it, "Steamboat" is it for me.

Gonna be an interesting tape!  Sounds like a good theme.  I'm not quite locked into the idea enough to offer a good suggestion though.

Steamboat was the slowest grower for me in the entire released BB catalog. I first heard it maybe around 1994 or so, didn't understand it. I think it finally clicked for me around 2011 or so. Now I love it.

Steamboat's incredible. Evocative, dreamy, trance-like, industrial… give me another 20 like it!
I think I wouldn't like it if anyone other than Carl sang it. Best singer in the world!


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: Yorick on December 16, 2015, 03:53:51 AM
Where Is She


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: JK on December 16, 2015, 04:07:59 AM
It's too easy, but I've always heard "Til I Die" as a dirge.  It's just morbid, downright pitiful

I see it more as a kind of musical equivalent of a painting by Caspar David Friedrich--
--the spectator (in this case Brian) humbled by the immensity of nature.

This is just one example by that artist:

(https://40.media.tumblr.com/80a5f4982e34d2c7dd431b1b64e55bb3/tumblr_nridvzCC9Y1rtynt1o1_500.jpg) 


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 16, 2015, 04:14:23 AM
Many tracks on Pacific Ocean Blue are dirge-like.

There's a fine line that separates dirge like from stately.


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: JK on December 16, 2015, 05:14:25 AM
As I see it, a dirge is an extreme expression of mourning and grief (and always in a minor key).

Or else it's a derogatory term for a piece that plods on interminably.

I can't see either description fitting anything by the Boys together or individually...   


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: MarcellaHasDirtyFeet on December 16, 2015, 08:02:55 AM
I agree that these aren't necessarily "dirges" but man, "Steamboat" to me is the very definition of a dirge.  It just frickin' crawls.  Everybody has one song where they can't understand the love others have for it, "Steamboat" is it for me.

Gonna be an interesting tape!  Sounds like a good theme.  I'm not quite locked into the idea enough to offer a good suggestion though.

Steamboat was the slowest grower for me in the entire released BB catalog. I first heard it maybe around 1994 or so, didn't understand it. I think it finally clicked for me around 2011 or so. Now I love it.

Steamboat's incredible. Evocative, dreamy, trance-like, industrial… give me another 20 like it!
I think I wouldn't like it if anyone other than Carl sang it. Best singer in the world!

Steamboat blew my mind upon first listen. It seems decades ahead of its time. The percussion, the wacky slide guitar solo, and the "don't worry Mr. Fulton" backgrounds just create such a fantastic atmosphere. Love the chord changes.


Title: Re: All This is That/Cool Cool Water/Let The Wind Blow/Had To Phone Ya
Post by: Cabinessenceking on December 16, 2015, 10:01:02 AM
I agree that these aren't necessarily "dirges" but man, "Steamboat" to me is the very definition of a dirge.  It just frickin' crawls.  Everybody has one song where they can't understand the love others have for it, "Steamboat" is it for me.

Gonna be an interesting tape!  Sounds like a good theme.  I'm not quite locked into the idea enough to offer a good suggestion though.

Steamboat was the slowest grower for me in the entire released BB catalog. I first heard it maybe around 1994 or so, didn't understand it. I think it finally clicked for me around 2011 or so. Now I love it.

Steamboat's incredible. Evocative, dreamy, trance-like, industrial… give me another 20 like it!
I think I wouldn't like it if anyone other than Carl sang it. Best singer in the world!

Steamboat blew my mind upon first listen. It seems decades ahead of its time. The percussion, the wacky slide guitar solo, and the "don't worry Mr. Fulton" backgrounds just create such a fantastic atmosphere. Love the chord changes.

Steamboat is the real unnoticed gem on Holland. Seems Dennis was the only one to take their relocation there as an influence in his writing. Great tune, the production is stellar and the lyrics cryptic yet emotionally evocative. Great song on a great album!