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Title: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: “Big Daddy” on October 18, 2015, 10:24:25 PM
Looks like we got a new archival release coming down the pipeline! 2 CD set and vinyl. From Capitol. Amazon currently says “This title will be released on November 20, 2015.”

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016J8GG5E


Title: Re: Beach Boys’ Party! Uncovered And Unplugged
Post by: wantsomecorn on October 18, 2015, 10:33:14 PM
Maybe they'll do two sets of Archive Releases like they did last year. One with Summer Days/Today sessions and another for this.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Mike's Beard on October 18, 2015, 11:43:19 PM
This one seemed to have crept up out of nowhere! Be interesting to hear what else was covered at the Party! sessions.


Title: Re: Beach Boys’ Party! Uncovered And Unplugged
Post by: Lonely Summer on October 18, 2015, 11:51:43 PM
Maybe they'll do two sets of Archive Releases like they did last year. One with Summer Days/Today sessions and another for this.
Summer Days/Today sessions CD? How did I miss this?


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Ian on October 19, 2015, 03:55:36 AM
You didn't. He's hoping they release that too for copyright protection purposes


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Tony S on October 19, 2015, 04:05:59 AM
When I read "unplugged" made me think of the "93 Box Set tour, when they did the acoustic stuff in the middle of the show. I would love to hear that remastered.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: HeyJude on October 19, 2015, 06:40:05 AM
If this is the 1965 "copyright extension" set, then the weird thing is that they're apparently going the physical CD (and vinyl) route for the first time.

My guess would be this set is something a bit more elaborate than some of the other odds and ends released on various "copyright extension" sets; otherwise I can't see them justifying putting this out on CD and vinyl.

I welcome any archival releases, though I still wish something more interesting and totally unheard (live stuff from the 70s, Brother-era studio outtakes) would be released in an elaborate package as opposed to last-minute "copyright extension" sets (albeit with the most effort and thoughtfulness put in as possible could be).


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: bonnevillemariner on October 19, 2015, 06:58:01 AM
So no digital release?  If no, why?


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: bryand on October 19, 2015, 07:49:10 AM
Found this:
http://rpmdistribution.ca/docs/86042_newreleasebook_universalmusiccanada___________72.pdf?LanguageID=EN-US

Page 27


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on October 19, 2015, 07:56:42 AM
I see sb asked question about other covers - um, could it be possible there is sth. beyond Ruby Baby, Smokey Joe's Cafe etc? Somehow I doubt but would like to be wrong.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: HeyJude on October 19, 2015, 08:05:21 AM
Found this:
http://rpmdistribution.ca/docs/86042_newreleasebook_universalmusiccanada___________72.pdf?LanguageID=EN-US

Page 27

Good sleuthing. Looks like that's the tracklisting. Also looks like final album artwork hasn't been finalized, as they just have the original album cover as a placeholder.

I'm guessing this is still a "copyright extension" set, albeit one with a single, unified theme that perhaps they were able to convince Capitol/Universal to get behind with a more elaborate package and actual physical relase.

"Party" has never been the most exciting BB-related thing for me, so I'm still hoping this can be the great start to a more elaborate archival release program with more interesting, substantive material.

I would still assume this will *also* get a download/digital release as well.

I'm curious if there will be additional "copyright extension" sets as well; and perhaps some of the others with a less singular theme may get a digital-only release like past sets.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Bicyclerider on October 19, 2015, 08:44:07 AM
Is there anything on this that wasn't on Unsurpassed Masters?


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Douchepool on October 19, 2015, 08:56:31 AM
Maybe the actual 1965 copyright extension set will have the two Chicago gigs on it...I'll take that and this Party set!


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: GoodVibrations33 on October 19, 2015, 09:38:36 AM
Maybe the actual 1965 copyright extension set will have the two Chicago gigs on it...I'll take that and this Party set!

I've been anticipating the '65 Chicago gigs ever since they began releasing the copyright extension sets.  Hope they'll be released.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Smilin Ed H on October 19, 2015, 09:43:45 AM
For a minute I was wondering whether this was official or whether it was similar to the Surfin' 1962 set. Looking forward to this. I think it often gets overlooked because it's not 'serious', but that's a big mistake.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Rocker on October 19, 2015, 12:14:13 PM
Great news! Party is one of my very favorite Beach Boys albums!





Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: “Big Daddy” on October 19, 2015, 12:20:17 PM
So no digital release?  If no, why?
It’ll have a digital release I’m sure, that’s just not up for pre-order yet!


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Blake Alan on October 19, 2015, 12:31:14 PM
Maybe the actual 1965 copyright extension set will have the two Chicago gigs on it...I'll take that and this Party set!

I've been anticipating the '65 Chicago gigs ever since they began releasing the copyright extension sets.  Hope they'll be released.

Ditto. I'll be happy with whatever we get, but seeing the separate release of the Sacramento shows last year did make it seem like a real possibility. Let's keep our fingers crossed...


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Lonely Summer on October 19, 2015, 01:13:43 PM
You didn't. He's hoping they release that too for copyright protection purposes
But there were 2 sets of archive releases last year? Somehow I missed this. Wasn't aware of anything new since MIC.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on October 19, 2015, 02:13:13 PM
Very exciting news. Finally taking a page out of the Dylan Bootleg Series book. Funny we didn't hear some kind of rumbling about this on the board.  Guess our resident insiders to BRI are now on the outside???


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: HeyJude on October 19, 2015, 02:17:46 PM
Very exciting news. Finally taking a page out of the Dylan Bootleg Series book. Funny we didn't hear some kind of rumbling about this on the board.  Guess our resident insiders to BRI are now on the outside???

I wouldn’t yet characterize these BB archival releases as anything on the magnitude of the Dylan series. Everything about these “Copyright Extension” releases so far has struck me as much more a case of some folks convincing BRI and Capitol that there’s a business necessity in putting these sets out, and then we’re just lucky that they have someone like Alan Boyd in there who will make such release as great as they can possibly be.





Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on October 19, 2015, 02:40:52 PM
Very exciting news. Finally taking a page out of the Dylan Bootleg Series book. Funny we didn't hear some kind of rumbling about this on the board.  Guess our resident insiders to BRI are now on the outside???

I wouldn’t yet characterize these BB archival releases as anything on the magnitude of the Dylan series. Everything about these “Copyright Extension” releases so far has struck me as much more a case of some folks convincing BRI and Capitol that there’s a business necessity in putting these sets out, and then we’re just lucky that they have someone like Alan Boyd in there who will make such release as great as they can possibly be.

Didn't the whole Dylan bootleg series sprung from the copyright issue? I mean, they are releasing ALL the Dylan recordings from 65-66. What, 16 CDS? It's no coincidence it coincides with the copyright running out for those recordings,

 The fact that it is a two CD set with multiple takes of previously released material. Also, releasing the songs without the Party sounds mimics Dylan's bootleg series release of New Self Potrait with all the overdubs removed.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: HeyJude on October 19, 2015, 03:15:17 PM
Very exciting news. Finally taking a page out of the Dylan Bootleg Series book. Funny we didn't hear some kind of rumbling about this on the board.  Guess our resident insiders to BRI are now on the outside???

I wouldn’t yet characterize these BB archival releases as anything on the magnitude of the Dylan series. Everything about these “Copyright Extension” releases so far has struck me as much more a case of some folks convincing BRI and Capitol that there’s a business necessity in putting these sets out, and then we’re just lucky that they have someone like Alan Boyd in there who will make such release as great as they can possibly be.

Didn't the whole Dylan bootleg series sprung from the copyright issue? I mean, they are releasing ALL the Dylan recordings from 65-66. What, 16 CDS? It's no coincidence it coincides with the copyright running out for those recordings,

 The fact that it is a two CD set with multiple takes of previously released material. Also, releasing the songs without the Party sounds mimics Dylan's bootleg series release of New Self Potrait with all the overdubs removed.

I was comparing the magnitude/breadth of the program more than the origins. The Dylan sets don't scream "bare minimum" so much. The BB 1964 studio set certainly left out TONS of material that had circulated on the SOT studio sets. For whatever legal reason, the "Copyright Extension" sets apparently don't have to include every second of studio material. Same thing with the 1963 Beatles set, including numerous takes of songs yet leaving numerous takes out for whatever reason that still hasn't been fully explained.

I'm not a Dylan expert, so I don't know how careful they were to collect everything for the Dylan set, but 16 CDs suggests a wide opening of the vaults. Whereas, with the BBs, they certainly could have gone well beyond what they did on the "Keep an Eye on Summer" BB set from last year.

The BB sets strike me more like Alan Boyd and folks like that wringing as much as they can out from the resources, direction, time, and budget they are given.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 19, 2015, 05:02:54 PM
Very exciting news. Finally taking a page out of the Dylan Bootleg Series book. Funny we didn't hear some kind of rumbling about this on the board.  Guess our resident insiders to BRI are now on the outside???

That, or they know better than to talk about a confidential project on a public message board.

Lee


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on October 19, 2015, 05:45:52 PM
Very exciting news. Finally taking a page out of the Dylan Bootleg Series book. Funny we didn't hear some kind of rumbling about this on the board.  Guess our resident insiders to BRI are now on the outside???

That, or they know better than to talk about a confidential project on a public message board.

Lee

Huh? Talk of MIC and other releases hit the board before they reach Amazon. Atleast hints. Confidential? This isn't the Pentagon or MI-6.  :o


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 19, 2015, 07:45:24 PM
Huh? Talk of MIC and other releases hit the board before they reach Amazon. Atleast hints. Confidential? This isn't the Pentagon or MI-6.  :o

So you're saying if someone is told in confidence about a project, and is told not to say anything until it is formally announced, that they should betray that trust and talk about it on a public forum, lest they be called an "insider who is now on the outside?"   :-\


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on October 19, 2015, 07:59:18 PM
Huh? Talk of MIC and other releases hit the board before they reach Amazon. Atleast hints. Confidential? This isn't the Pentagon or MI-6.  :o

So you're saying if someone is told in confidence about a project, and is told not to say anything until it is formally announced, that they should betray that trust and talk about it on a public forum, lest they be called an "insider who is now on the outside?"   :-\

Jeez, not this crap again. Roger Doger James Bond! This is the standard argument from people who want you to think they have inside information but, in reality, don't

I suggest you go back and reread all the speculation about MIC boxset. Lots of hints from parties in the know.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 19, 2015, 08:20:45 PM
Yes this crap again.  Facts:
- People on this board knew about this project because they had a valid reason to know (i.e. they were asked to provide photos, memorabilia, or information related to the PARTY! album).
- They were asked not to say anything about it until it was formally announced.
- They kept their mouths shut.

For perspective, I was told about "Surf's Up (1967)" before the track listing of THE SMILE SESSIONS box set was announced.  I blabbed about it on this board.  I got in trouble for opening my mouth when I shouldn't have.  Lesson learned.  I didn't participate in the MIC speculation.

Enjoy your Oregon evening.  


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on October 19, 2015, 08:57:51 PM
Yes this crap again.  Facts:
- People on this board knew about this project because they had a valid reason to know (i.e. they were asked to provide photos, memorabilia, or information related to the PARTY! album).
- They were asked not to say anything about it until it was formally announced.
- They kept their mouths shut.

For perspective, I was told about "Surf's Up (1967)" before the track listing of THE SMILE SESSIONS box set was announced.  I blabbed about it on this board.  I got in trouble for opening my mouth when I shouldn't have.  Lesson learned.  I didn't participate in the MIC speculation.

Enjoy your Oregon evening.  

Sorrrrrry Lee  :(  :(  :(


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Custom Machine on October 19, 2015, 10:30:29 PM
Found this:
http://rpmdistribution.ca/docs/86042_newreleasebook_universalmusiccanada___________72.pdf?LanguageID=EN-US
Page 27

Thanks for the info!  Definitely looking forward to this one.

The Beach Boys // Beach Boys Party! Uncovered & Unplugged (2CD)
Release Date: Nov 20, 2015

The Beach Boys // Beach Boys Party! Uncovered & Unplugged (LP) – vinyl is one way sale
Release Date: Dec 11, 2015

Beach Boys' Party! was the tenth studio album by the Beach Boys and was mostly cover songs. When originally recorded, the band invited friends and family into the studio for a party. Those sounds were then layered over the recorded music for a true party sound. Uncovered and unplugged now strips away those party sounds so that the true sessions can be heard in their entirety. The special 2 disc set pairs the original album with the newly restored audio, outtakes and dialog.

Also available on 180 gram vinyl



Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: The Real Barnyard on October 20, 2015, 02:20:40 AM
Let's take a better vision of the tracklisting:

CD 1:
01 Hully Gully (Party! Sessions Mix)
02 I Should Have Known Better (Party! Sessions Mix)
03 Tell My Why (Party! Sessions Mix)
04 Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow (Party! Sessions Mix)
05 Mountain Of Love (Party! Sessions Mix)
06 You’ve Got To Hide Your Love Away (Party! Sessions Mix)
07 Devoted To You (Party! Sessions Mix)
08 Alley Oop (Party! Sessions Mix)
09 There's No Other (Like My Baby) (Party! Sessions Mix)
10 I Get Around/Little Deuce Coupe (Party! Session Mix)
11 The Times They Are A-Changin' (Party! Sessions Mix)
12 Barbara Ann (Party! Sessions Mix)
13 Let's Get This Party Rolling (Party!Sessions Mix/Session#2)
14 I Should Have Known Better (Party! Sessions Mix/Take1 - Session #1)
15 Ruby Baby (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 1 - Session #1)
16 (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 1 - Session #1)
17 Hully Gully (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 1 - Session #1)
18 Blowin' In The Wind (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #1)
19 Dialog - The Sunrays (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #1)
20 Ruby Baby (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #2)
21 Dialog - The Masked Phantom (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #2)
22 Hully Gully (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #2)
23 Dialog - Carl, Go Get Your Bass (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #2)
24 Hully Gully (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 3 - Session #2)
25 (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #2)
26 Dialog - That's A Bad Guitar (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #2)
27 Ruby Baby (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 3 - Session #2)
28 Dialog - What's The Matter Carl (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #2)
29 Ruby Baby (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 4 - Session #2)
30 Dialog - Carl's Tires (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #2)
31 I Should Have Known Better (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #2)
32 I Should Have Known Better (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 3 - Session #2)
33 Dialog - Wasn't That Great Folks? (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #2)
34 Tell My Why (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 1 - Session #2)
35 Don't Worry Baby (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #2)
36 You've Got To Hide Your Love Away (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 1 - Session #2)
37 Little Deuce Coupe (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 1 - Session #2)
38 California Girls (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #2)

CD 2:
01 She Belongs To Me / The Artist (Laugh At Me) (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 1 - Session #2)
02 Fooling Around: Hang On Sloopy / You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin' / Twist And Shout (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #2)
03 Riot In Cell Block No. 9 (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 1 - Session #2)
04 Fooling Around: The Diary (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #2)
05 Dialog: I Think We Better Do This Next Week (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #2)
06 Dialog: Let's Cook Now And Eat Later (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #3)
07 Tell Me Why (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #3)
08 I Should Have Known Better (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 4 - Session #3)
09 Dialog: What I Want To Do (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #3)
10 Dialog: Are We Still In The Party? (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #3)
11 Mountain Of Love (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 1 - Session #3)
12 Dialog: Where's Denny? (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #3)
13 Devoted To You (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 1 - Session #3)
14 Dialog: What Are You Doing Now (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #3)
15 You've Got To Hide Your Love Away (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #3)
16 Dialog: This Phony Party / Ticket To Ride (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #3)
17 Alley Oop (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 1 - Session #3)
18 Alley Oop (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #3)
19 Dialog: Tune It Like This (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #3)
20 There's No Other (Like My Baby) (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 1 - Session #3)
21 There's No Other (Like My Baby) (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #3)
22 Dialog: Do The Splits (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #3)
23 Devoted To You (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #3)
24 Devoted To You (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 3 - Session #3)
25 You've Got To Hide Your Love Away (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 3 - Session #4)
26 I Get Around (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #4)
27 Little Deuce Coupe (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #4)
28 Mountain Of Love (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #4)
29 Ticket To Ride (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #4)
30 Riot In Cell Block No. 9 (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #4)
31 The Artist (Laugh At Me) (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #4)
32 One Kiss Led To Another (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #4)
33 You've Got To Hide Your Love Away (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 4 - Session #5)
34 You've Got To Hide Your Love Away (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 5 - Session #5)
35 Dialog: What Did You Stop Us For Chuck? (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #5)
36 The Times They Are A-Changin' (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #5)
37 Fooling Around: Heart And Soul / Long Tall Sally (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #5)
38 Fooling Around: The Boy From New York City (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #5)
39 Smokey Joe's Café (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #5)
40 Dialog: I Got One More (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #5)
41 Barbara Ann (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 1 - Session #5)
42 Barbara Ann (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #5)
43 Barbara Ann (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 3 - Session #5)

LP TRACKLISTING:

01 Hully Gully
02 I Should Have Known Better
03 Tell My Why
04 Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow
05 Mountain Of Love
06 You’ve Got To Hide Your Love Away
07 Devoted To You
08 Alley Oop
09 There's No Other (Like My Baby)
10 Medley: I Get Around / Little Deuce Coupe
11 The Times They Are A- Changin'
12 Barbara Ann


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 20, 2015, 05:11:11 AM
Sorrrrrry Lee  :(  :(  :(

Hey, we all eat too many BEACH BOYS PARTY! Potato Chips on occasion; personally, I'm down to my last case.  The damn things are 50 years old.  Kinda rancid, and they've lost their crisp...

I'm a fan of your posts Oregon; you've got a great perspective on things.

Lee


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Emily on October 20, 2015, 06:58:13 AM
Ooh. Don't Worry Baby!


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: hideyotsuburaya on October 20, 2015, 07:43:02 AM
Listening to that scripted dialogue on the Made In California boxed-set from the party sessions--Dean Torrence identifying himself as Al Jardine, Dennis' mechanical "Come In" reply to the knocking sound effect, plus "Hey Dave, YOU BROUGHT THE RECORDS!" are all positively a scream to me.  Give me more of that hilarious nonsense


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Mike's Beard on October 20, 2015, 08:24:35 AM
Let's take a better vision of the tracklisting:

CD 1:
01 Hully Gully (Party! Sessions Mix)
02 I Should Have Known Better (Party! Sessions Mix)
03 Tell My Why (Party! Sessions Mix)
04 Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow (Party! Sessions Mix)
05 Mountain Of Love (Party! Sessions Mix)
06 You’ve Got To Hide Your Love Away (Party! Sessions Mix)
07 Devoted To You (Party! Sessions Mix)
08 Alley Oop (Party! Sessions Mix)
09 There's No Other (Like My Baby) (Party! Sessions Mix)
10 I Get Around/Little Deuce Coupe (Party! Session Mix)
11 The Times They Are A-Changin' (Party! Sessions Mix)
12 Barbara Ann (Party! Sessions Mix)
13 Let's Get This Party Rolling (Party!Sessions Mix/Session#2)
14 I Should Have Known Better (Party! Sessions Mix/Take1 - Session #1)
15 Ruby Baby (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 1 - Session #1)
16 (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 1 - Session #1)
17 Hully Gully (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 1 - Session #1)
18 Blowin' In The Wind (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #1)
19 Dialog - The Sunrays (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #1)
20 Ruby Baby (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #2)
21 Dialog - The Masked Phantom (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #2)
22 Hully Gully (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #2)
23 Dialog - Carl, Go Get Your Bass (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #2)
24 Hully Gully (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 3 - Session #2)
25 (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #2)
26 Dialog - That's A Bad Guitar (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #2)
27 Ruby Baby (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 3 - Session #2)
28 Dialog - What's The Matter Carl (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #2)
29 Ruby Baby (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 4 - Session #2)
30 Dialog - Carl's Tires (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #2)
31 I Should Have Known Better (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #2)
32 I Should Have Known Better (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 3 - Session #2)
33 Dialog - Wasn't That Great Folks? (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #2)
34 Tell My Why (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 1 - Session #2)
35 Don't Worry Baby (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #2)
36 You've Got To Hide Your Love Away (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 1 - Session #2)
37 Little Deuce Coupe (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 1 - Session #2)
38 California Girls (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #2)

CD 2:
01 She Belongs To Me / The Artist (Laugh At Me) (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 1 - Session #2)
02 Fooling Around: Hang On Sloopy / You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin' / Twist And Shout (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #2)
03 Riot In Cell Block No. 9 (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 1 - Session #2)
04 Fooling Around: The Diary (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #2)
05 Dialog: I Think We Better Do This Next Week (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #2)
06 Dialog: Let's Cook Now And Eat Later (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #3)
07 Tell Me Why (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #3)
08 I Should Have Known Better (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 4 - Session #3)
09 Dialog: What I Want To Do (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #3)
10 Dialog: Are We Still In The Party? (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #3)
11 Mountain Of Love (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 1 - Session #3)
12 Dialog: Where's Denny? (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #3)
13 Devoted To You (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 1 - Session #3)
14 Dialog: What Are You Doing Now (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #3)
15 You've Got To Hide Your Love Away (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #3)
16 Dialog: This Phony Party / Ticket To Ride (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #3)
17 Alley Oop (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 1 - Session #3)
18 Alley Oop (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #3)
19 Dialog: Tune It Like This (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #3)
20 There's No Other (Like My Baby) (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 1 - Session #3)
21 There's No Other (Like My Baby) (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #3)
22 Dialog: Do The Splits (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #3)
23 Devoted To You (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #3)
24 Devoted To You (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 3 - Session #3)
25 You've Got To Hide Your Love Away (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 3 - Session #4)
26 I Get Around (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #4)
27 Little Deuce Coupe (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #4)
28 Mountain Of Love (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #4)
29 Ticket To Ride (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #4)
30 Riot In Cell Block No. 9 (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #4)
31 The Artist (Laugh At Me) (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #4)
32 One Kiss Led To Another (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #4)
33 You've Got To Hide Your Love Away (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 4 - Session #5)
34 You've Got To Hide Your Love Away (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 5 - Session #5)
35 Dialog: What Did You Stop Us For Chuck? (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #5)
36 The Times They Are A-Changin' (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #5)
37 Fooling Around: Heart And Soul / Long Tall Sally (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #5)
38 Fooling Around: The Boy From New York City (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #5)
39 Smokey Joe's Café (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #5)
40 Dialog: I Got One More (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #5)
41 Barbara Ann (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 1 - Session #5)
42 Barbara Ann (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 2 - Session #5)
43 Barbara Ann (Party! Sessions Mix/Take 3 - Session #5)

LP TRACKLISTING:

01 Hully Gully
02 I Should Have Known Better
03 Tell My Why
04 Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow
05 Mountain Of Love
06 You’ve Got To Hide Your Love Away
07 Devoted To You
08 Alley Oop
09 There's No Other (Like My Baby)
10 Medley: I Get Around / Little Deuce Coupe
11 The Times They Are A- Changin'
12 Barbara Ann

That's impressive.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: 37!ws on October 20, 2015, 10:54:31 AM
Is there anything on this that wasn't on Unsurpassed Masters?

For one thing, this track from CD 2:

Quote
02 Fooling Around: Hang On Sloopy / You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin' / Twist And Shout (Party! Sessions Mix/Session #2)


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Jim V. on October 20, 2015, 11:05:39 AM
Listening to that scripted dialogue on the Made In California boxed-set from the party sessions--Dean Torrence identifying himself as Al Jardine, Dennis' mechanical "Come In" reply to the knocking sound effect, plus "Hey Dave, YOU BROUGHT THE RECORDS!" are all positively a scream to me.  Give me more of that hilarious nonsense

Wait, I always thought it was Carl identifying himself as Al, saying something like, "hi this is Al Jardine and this is what it's like at a Beach Boys party." And "come...in" totally sounded like Brian to me, and maybe not even purposely funny, just Brian being Brian.

I also love the "you brought the records" thing, which I think was Bruce (?).


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Heysaboda on October 20, 2015, 12:08:16 PM

Summer Days/Today ranks among the BB's VERY best work.  And Party! ... ... ... does not  :(


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Margarita on October 20, 2015, 12:26:23 PM
While Party doesn't approach the artistry of Today and SDSN, it was a very creative idea to get Capitol to shut up about new product for Christmas. Despite it being a studio creation, to the listener it totally does sound like it was recorded at a party.  And most of it, it's FUN. 


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Ram4 on October 20, 2015, 12:56:59 PM
Very cool to see this released.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: 37!ws on October 20, 2015, 01:09:43 PM
I always liked R"L"aa...BBP! In fact, my favorite Unsurpassed Masters volume by far is 10, uuhhh....that is....from overhearing it when someone else played it...I'm not saying I actually POSSESSED it or anything. Great listening.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on October 20, 2015, 01:11:01 PM
While Party doesn't approach the artistry of Today and SDSN, it was a very creative idea to get Capitol to shut up about new product for Christmas. Despite it being a studio creation, to the listener it totally does sound like it was recorded at a party.  And most of it, it's FUN. 

Agreed, especially since the alternative to Party was probably nothing. 


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: hideyotsuburaya on October 20, 2015, 01:29:35 PM
"....Carl identifying himself as Al, saying something like, "hi this is Al Jardine...."

I'd know Dean Torrance's speaking voice anywhere and that's definitely him, not Carl and certainly not Al.  As for Brian's voice, he's the one saying "that's MY door".  Regardless, that spontaneous ridiculing of the script really bowls me over (ROTFL as they say), and if they came up with a new double disc primarily of old material just like that, well, they could pretty much skip the filler songs IMO

as for who said "you brought the records" I wasn't able to pinpoint w/ certainty since the voice is such a caracature, though I might've offered it was Dennis since it's spoken w/ so much gusto


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: MikestheGreatest!! on October 20, 2015, 03:20:38 PM
I suppose most know this, but there is a good discussion of BB's Party in the book Outlaw Blues by Paul Williams.  IIRC, he makes very positive statements about the album and a good argument for its importance.  Also, even though they weren't really unplugged in a sense, the album has been seen by some as a sort of precursor to the Unplugged MTV Series concept.  Also pretty notable for perhaps being the first release by a major artist in which they goof on themselves with the parody-type versions of LDC, IGA, etc.  Also some glorious group singing on songs like Hully Gully and There's No Other Like My Baby.  A rather sublime version of Devoted to You.  And lots of other little pleasures.

I remembered reading some statement about their cover of The Times They are a Changin' as being a gracious acknowledgement by the Boys that there were other things going on outside their southern Californian world from time to time, which struck me as pretty funny.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on October 20, 2015, 05:12:27 PM
Sorrrrrry Lee  :(  :(  :(

Hey, we all eat too many BEACH BOYS PARTY! Potato Chips on occasion; personally, I'm down to my last case.  The damn things are 50 years old.  Kinda rancid, and they've lost their crisp...

I'm a fan of your posts Oregon; you've got a great perspective on things.

Lee

Ha, ha. You too Lee! Ditto about your posts!

This release looks like a great listen (though I just hate to buy multiple versions of Barbara Ann  :wall :rock :wall).


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Emily on October 20, 2015, 07:08:46 PM
Listening to that scripted dialogue on the Made In California boxed-set from the party sessions--Dean Torrence identifying himself as Al Jardine, Dennis' mechanical "Come In" reply to the knocking sound effect, plus "Hey Dave, YOU BROUGHT THE RECORDS!" are all positively a scream to me.  Give me more of that hilarious nonsense

Wait, I always thought it was Carl identifying himself as Al, saying something like, "hi this is Al Jardine and this is what it's like at a Beach Boys party." And "come...in" totally sounded like Brian to me, and maybe not even purposely funny, just Brian being Brian.

I also love the "you brought the records" thing, which I think was Bruce (?).
Is this stuff on the unsurpassed masters? I've only listened to them selectively and not really the Party! stuff.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Jim V. on October 20, 2015, 07:11:05 PM
Hey....so is the version of "Ruby Baby" that appears on Good Vibrations - Thirty Years Of The Beach Boys going to be available on this new set? I see there are like four versions on there, so I'd assume one of them is indeed that one, but who knows?


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Steve Latshaw on October 21, 2015, 08:31:32 AM
<<I'd know Dean Torrance's speaking voice anywhere...>>

Minor note.  Torrance is the city.  Torrence is the name.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: 37!ws on October 21, 2015, 09:12:14 AM
And I think it was a reference to the "There's No Other" outtake on the MIC box...sure sounds like Carl to me saying, "Hi, this is Alan Jardine, and this scene takes place at a typical Beach Boys party" or something to that effect.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: hideyotsuburaya on October 21, 2015, 09:23:23 AM
right, my (name) mis-spelling (there's just so close, geographically)


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Smilin Ed H on October 21, 2015, 11:45:44 AM
Nothing new, but a good read:

http://fridaynightboys300.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/the-beach-boys-party.html


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: The Shift on October 21, 2015, 02:31:41 PM
(http://www.tineye.com/query/4406bd57b102a9f880f588b3f38efea2f59f496f?size=160)

Apols that was a crap attempt to link to the artwork which is posted at Amazon Uk .

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B016J8GG5E/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?qid=1445462584&sr=1-3&pi=AC_SX110_SY165&keywords=beach+boys#immersive-view_1445462619940

Doesn't do much for me but it's all about the music, eh?


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: rogerlancelot on October 21, 2015, 07:45:03 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61aunrljvPL.jpg)


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: elnombre on October 22, 2015, 06:01:14 AM
That cover is fucking horrible. The colours...my God...it actually hurts to look at.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: HeyJude on October 22, 2015, 06:10:48 AM
I dunno. The artwork for the digital-only releases last year were far worse-looking. They looked like experiments I did with home-made CD covers in the mid-late 90's, complete with the sort of Comic Sans Serif-ish font on the covers. Great work compiling those releases; I'm so grateful Alan Boyd and company did everything they could on that end. But they clearly had (and maybe still have) a pretty tiny budget for artwork for these things.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: grillo on October 22, 2015, 06:18:24 AM
.sure sounds like Carl to me saying, "Hi, this is Alan Jardine, and this scene takes place at a typical Beach Boys party" or something to that effect.
yeah, its carl mocking jardine's bit on cassius love vs sunny wilson. I doubt dean would have remembered that obscure reference, but he is a weird guy...


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: elnombre on October 22, 2015, 07:14:32 AM
I dunno. The artwork for the digital-only releases last year were far worse-looking. They looked like experiments I did with home-made CD covers in the mid-late 90's, complete with the sort of Comic Sans Serif-ish font on the covers. Great work compiling those releases; I'm so grateful Alan Boyd and company did everything they could on that end. But they clearly had (and maybe still have) a pretty tiny budget for artwork for these things.


Good artwork can be done on a tiny budget, there's really no excuse for something as eye watering hideous as this. We're only talking about taking existing pictures and arranging them tastefully and adding a title.

The other sessions releases weren't being pressed as vinyl records either. If you're going to the trouble of putting it out on record, it would be nice if it was at least decent to look at.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Cool Cool Water on October 22, 2015, 10:31:25 AM
Excellent news! Defiantly be purchasing that on vinyl.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Marty Castillo on October 22, 2015, 10:55:26 AM
I don't mind the cover art, except for the color choice. Should have just used the original color palette with the new photos and "Uncovered and Unplugged" added.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: hideyotsuburaya on October 22, 2015, 11:08:26 AM
".sure sounds like Carl to me saying, "Hi, this is Alan Jardine, and this scene takes place at a typical Beach Boys party" or something to that effect.

yeah, its carl mocking jardine's bit on cassius love vs sunny wilson. I doubt dean would have remembered that obscure reference, but he is a weird guy...
"

no it's Dean Torrence, reading from a prepared script so there's no need for him to remember an obscure reference.  the voice is unmistakeable from hearing him shoot the breeze on various Jan & Dean compilations


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Blake Alan on October 22, 2015, 11:20:54 AM
Here's the full press release (taken from the Steve Hoffman Board):


THE BEACH BOY’S 1965 ALBUM, ‘BEACH BOYS’ PARTY!’ REMIXED, REMASTERED AND EXPANDED WITHOUT OVERDUBBED FESTIVITIES FOR ‘BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! UNCOVERED AND UNPLUGGED’

50th Anniversary 2CD and Digital Album Features 81 Songs and Dialog Tracks Culled From The Beach Boys’ ‘Party!’ Studio Sessions


Los Angeles – October 22, 2015 – In November 1965, The Beach Boys released Beach Boys’ Party!, a creative and well-loved album of covers mixed with separately recorded party sounds created by the band members, their families and friends. ‘Party!’ was a Top 10 Billboard hit, quickly going Gold and spawning the timeless No. 2 smash hit, “Barbara Ann.” To celebrate the popular album’s 50th anniversary, The Beach Boys have overseen a remixed, remastered and expanded edition, Beach Boys’ Party! Uncovered and Unplugged, which removes the overdubbed festivities from the 12-track original album’s mix and adds 69 more songs and dialog tracks culled from all of the band’s ‘Party!’ recording sessions. To be released worldwide on November 20 by Capitol/UMe, the 2CD and digital album also includes photos from the sessions, package essays by Beach Boys historians Alan Boyd and Craig Slowinski, and notes by the new edition’s producer, Mark Linett. A vinyl LP edition of the ‘Party!’ album’s original 12 tracks, remixed and remastered in the ‘Uncovered and Unplugged’ style, will follow on December 11.

Over the course of several long sessions at Western Recorders in Hollywood, California in August and September of 1965, The Beach Boys recorded what was, essentially, the first “unplugged” rock & roll album, with instrumentation limited to acoustic guitars, bass, bongos, harmonica and a tambourine. Joined in the studio by a few friends and collaborators, the band ran through many of their favorite songs of the time, including hits by The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan and others, even spoofing two of their own biggest hits – “I Get Around” and “Little Deuce Coupe” -- with self-parodying renditions. The Beach Boys’ version of The Regents’ “Barbara-Ann” (released by The Beach Boys minus the title’s original hyphen), included on the album, leapt up the Billboard singles chart and became one of the band’s signature songs, beloved by fans around the world.

“The ‘Party!’ album was a result of the pressure Capitol Records was putting on us for another album,” explained Beach Boys founding member Mike Love. “And we didn’t really have time to develop the type of album we wanted to develop, which Brian was working on, called Pet Sounds… So we said, ‘Well, what can we do quickly and easily?’ And we decided to do this party album.”

“Mike was saying, why not a party album and we can act like we are [at a party], and just be ourselves on tape, you know?” recalled Beach Boys founding member Brian Wilson. “And that’s what happened. It was a very spontaneous album.”

After the band wrapped recording sessions for the album’s songs -- plus many additional songs -- they returned to the studio with friends and family in tow, for a three-hour session to record party sounds and chatter to be mixed with the songs for the freewheeling Beach Boys’ Party! album. Removed from this new ‘Uncovered and Unplugged’ edition, the mixed-in party sounds remain intact on the original album, which was most recently remixed in stereo for reissue by Capitol in 2012.


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The Beach Boys:Beach Boys’ Party! Uncovered and Unplugged [2CD; digital]


DISC 1


THE ALBUM

1. HULLY GULLY [Session #2 – 9/8/65]
    Lead vocal: Mike

2. I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER [Session #3 – 9/14/65]
    Lead vocals: Carl & Al

3. TELL ME WHY [Session #2 – 9/8/65]
    Lead vocals: Carl & Al

4. PAPA-OOM-MOW-MOW [Session #3 – 9/14/65]
    Lead vocal: Brian

5. MOUNTAIN OF LOVE [Session #3 – 9/14/65]
    Lead vocal: Mike

6. YOU'VE GOT TO HIDE YOUR LOVE AWAY [Session #5 – 9/23/65]
    Lead vocal: Dennis

7. DEVOTED TO YOU [Session #3 – 9/14/65]
    Duet vocals: Brian & Mike

8. ALLEY OOP [Session #3 – 9/14/65]
    Lead vocal: Mike

9. THERE'S NO OTHER (LIKE MY BABY) [Session #3 – 9/14/65]
    Lead vocal: Brian

10. I GET AROUND / LITTLE DEUCE COUPE [Session #4 – 9/15/65]
      Lead vocal: Mike

11. THE TIMES THEY ARE A-CHANGIN' [Session #5 – 9/23/65]
      Solo vocal: Al

12. BARBARA ANN [Session #5 – 9/23/65]
      Lead vocals: Brian & Dean


THE SESSIONS

13. LET'S GET THIS PARTY ROLLING [Session #2 – 9/8/65]


SESSION #1 [8/23/65]

14. I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER #1
      Lead vocals: Carl & Al

15. RUBY BABY #1
      Lead vocal: Brian

16. (I CAN’T GET NO) SATISFACTION #1
      Group vocals: Brian, Carl, Dennis, Al, Mike

17. HULLY GULLY #1
      Lead vocal: Brian

18. BLOWIN' IN THE WIND
      Solo vocal: Al

19. DIALOG: “THE SUNRAYS”


SESSION #2 [9/8/65]

20. RUBY BABY #2
      Lead vocal: Brian

21. DIALOG: “THE MASKED PHANTOM”

22. HULLY GULLY #2
      Lead vocal: Mike

23. DIALOG: “CARL, GO GET YOUR BASS”

24. HULLY GULLY #3
      Lead vocal: Mike

25. (I CAN’T GET NO) SATISFACTION #2
      Group vocals: Brian, Carl, Dennis, Al, Mike

26. DIALOG: “THAT'S A BAD GUITAR”
      Piano: Brian

27. RUBY BABY #3
      Lead vocal: Brian

28. DIALOG: “WHAT'S THE MATTER, CARL”

29. RUBY BABY #4
      Lead vocal: Brian

30. DIALOG: “CARL'S TIRES”

31. I SHOULD'VE KNOWN BETTER #2
      Lead vocals: Carl & Al

32. I SHOULD'VE KNOWN BETTER #3
      Lead vocals: Carl & Al

33. DIALOG: “WASN'T THAT GREAT FOLKS?”

34. TELL ME WHY #1
      Lead vocals: Carl & Al

35. DON'T WORRY BABY
      12-string acoustic guitar: Carl

36. YOU’VE GOT TO HIDE YOUR LOVE AWAY #1
      Lead vocal: Dennis

37. LITTLE DEUCE COUPE #1
      Lead vocal: Mike

38. CALIFORNIA GIRLS
      Lead vocal: Mike


DISC 2


SESSION #2 [9/8/65], continued

1. SHE BELONGS TO ME/THE ARTIST (LAUGH AT ME) #1
    Lead vocal: Mike

2. FOOLING AROUND: HANG ON SLOOPY/YOU’VE LOST THAT LOVIN’ FEELIN’/TWIST AND SHOUT
    Lead vocal: Mike

3. RIOT IN CELLBLOCK No.9 #1
    Lead vocal: Mike

4. FOOLING AROUND: THE DIARY
    Lead vocal: Bruce

5. DIALOG: “I THINK WE BETTER DO THIS NEXT WEEK”
    Piano: Brian


SESSION #3 [9/14/65]

6. DIALOG: “LET'S COOK NOW AND EAT LATER”

7. TELL ME WHY #2
    Lead vocals: Carl & Al

8. I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER #4
    Lead vocals: Carl & Al

9. DIALOG: “WHAT I WANT TO DO”

10. DIALOG: “ARE WE STILL IN THE PARTY?”

11. MOUNTAIN OF LOVE #1
      Lead vocal: Mike

12. DIALOG: “WHERE'S DENNY?”

13. DEVOTED TO YOU #1
      Duet vocals: Brian & Mike

14. DIALOG: “WHAT ARE YOU DOING NOW”

15. YOU’VE GOT TO HIDE YOUR LOVE AWAY #2
      Lead vocal: Dennis

16. DIALOG: “THIS PHONY PARTY” / TICKET TO RIDE
      Lead vocal: Al

17. ALLEY OOP #1
      Lead vocal: Mike

18. ALLEY OOP #2
      Lead vocal: Mike

19. DIALOG: “TUNE IT LIKE IT IS”

20. THERE'S NO OTHER (LIKE MY BABY) #1
      Lead vocal: Brian

21. THERE'S NO OTHER (LIKE MY BABY) #2
      Lead vocal: Brian

22. DIALOG: “DO THE SPLITS”

23. DEVOTED TO YOU #2
      Duet vocals: Brian & Mike

24. DEVOTED TO YOU #3
      Duet vocals: Brian & Mike


SESSION #4 [9/15/65]

25. YOU’VE GOT TO HIDE YOUR LOVE AWAY #3
      Lead vocal: Dennis

26. I GET AROUND
      Lead vocal: Mike

27. LITTLE DEUCE COUPE #2
      Lead vocal: Mike

28. MOUNTAIN OF LOVE #2
      Lead vocals: Mike & Brian

29. TICKET TO RIDE #2

30. RIOT IN CELL BLOCK No. #2
      Lead vocal: Mike

31. THE ARTIST (LAUGH AT ME) #2
      Solo vocal: Mike

32. ONE KISS LED TO ANOTHER
      Lead vocal: Mike


SESSION #5 [9/23/65]

33. YOU’VE GOT TO HIDE YOUR LOVE AWAY #4
      Solo vocal: Dennis

34. YOU’VE GOT TO HIDE YOUR LOVE AWAY #5
      Lead vocal: Dennis

35. DIALOG: “WHAT DID YOU STOP US FOR CHUCK?”

36. THE TIMES THEY ARE A CHANGIN'
      Lead vocal: Al

37. FOOLING AROUND: HEART AND SOUL/LONG TALL SALLY

38. FOOLING AROUND: THE BOY FROM NYC

39. SMOKEY JOE'S CAFE
      Lead vocal: Mike

40. DIALOG: “I GOT ONE MORE”

41. BARBARA ANN #1
      Lead vocal: Brian

42. BARBARA ANN #2
      Lead vocals: Brian & Dean

43. BARBARA ANN #3
      Lead vocals: Brian & Dean


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Steve Latshaw on October 22, 2015, 12:51:23 PM

<<no it's Dean Torrence, reading from a prepared script so there's no need for him to remember an obscure reference.  the voice is unmistakeable from hearing him shoot the breeze on various Jan & Dean compilations>>

Having been acquainted with Dean since 1977, I can tell you this is not Dean, in any way, shape or form.  It's Carl Wilson, adding a bit of nasality to his voice, in the spirit of the comedy of the moment.  End of story.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: hideyotsuburaya on October 22, 2015, 01:18:17 PM
couldn't disagree more, it was apparent to me that voice's Deans without guessing upon first hearing (I saw Jan & Dean at shows going way back too).  remember Dean had to adopt a guise since he was forbidden to sing on competitors records like the Beach Boys, so just appropriating Al's role in the script makes sense in addition to the comic aspect.  (put another way, it is just the same voice as every time I've heard Dean speak during some dialogue included on a CD, and bears no resemblance to anytime I've ever heard Carl speak likewise).  Al comes in not as himself of course but goofing under another (phoney) name a moment later in the dialogue


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on October 22, 2015, 02:19:47 PM
I guess this means Today and SD/SN material will only be getting the minimum digital release?


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: 37!ws on October 22, 2015, 02:24:10 PM
Wait a minute...people are pissing and moaning about the cover art?? Dude...bad cover art is what we expect from a classic Beach Boys collection. The Beach Boys Today!, anyone?? And how about Summer Days... missing a group member? (Honestly, if Al couldn't make the shoot, couldn't they use another picture?) The Surfer Girl cover is very "so what?", and Little Deuce Coupe and Shut Down Vol. 2 have probably the most claustrophobic album graphics I've ever seen.

I think this is perfect for what it is.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Steve Latshaw on October 22, 2015, 02:45:15 PM
<<couldn't disagree more, it was apparent to me that voice's Deans without guessing upon first hearing .>>

Sorry, dead wrong.  I've known Dean for decades.  This is Carl's voice; I am sure Andrew or Alan or any longtime scholar can confirm.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: HeyJude on October 22, 2015, 04:07:14 PM
Wait a minute...people are pissing and moaning about the cover art?? Dude...bad cover art is what we expect from a classic Beach Boys collection. The Beach Boys Today!, anyone?? And how about Summer Days... missing a group member? (Honestly, if Al couldn't make the shoot, couldn't they use another picture?) The Surfer Girl cover is very "so what?", and Little Deuce Coupe and Shut Down Vol. 2 have probably the most claustrophobic album graphics I've ever seen.

I think this is perfect for what it is.

This is the band that gave us this:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5b/Beach_Boys_-_Good_Timin%E2%80%99.jpg/220px-Beach_Boys_-_Good_Timin%E2%80%99.jpg)


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Jim V. on October 22, 2015, 04:25:01 PM
I guess this means Today and SD/SN material will only be getting the minimum digital release?

Well, to be honest even though I (and probably many others on here) enjoy Today! and Summer Days (And Summer Nights!!) more than Party! it is pretty obvious that as far as outtakes from these albums, Party! has more truly unreleased songs from it's sessions, and that is probably the reason why it is this album, and not those, that is being reissued (albeit in a remixed form).

Off the top of my head, what unreleased songs are there from Today! sessions? None, I think. "All Dressed Up For School" was an outtake, but it's already been issued. So yeah, nothing there. From Summer Days (And Summer Nights!!)? Well, there's a lead vocal-less "Sherry/Sandy She Needs Me." There's just nothing. So Party! makes the most sense.

Now, next year, there is Pet Sounds and a whole lot of SMiLE sessions. So yeah, that should all be released, and in a hard copy.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: The Shift on October 22, 2015, 04:51:08 PM
Now, next year, there is Pet Sounds and a whole lot of SMiLE sessions. So yeah, that should all be released, and in a hard copy.

Can't help but fantasise about a possible Smile release. We got so much in the 2011 box, but what else would we long for? Vocals-only album? Instrumental track only album? Complete stereo mix of the Disc 1 version of the album? Barnyard without flown-in vocals? Any more rogue acetates that have surfaced? Brian's Child is the Father mix/acetate?

The version of Barbarian, stripped of Party sounds, that appeared on Made in California might be seen as a clue to the up-coming November Party! Naked release… any other clues in that box, for other sets to come?

Dreamin' again…


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: “Big Daddy” on October 22, 2015, 05:03:21 PM
The version of Barbarian, stripped of Party sounds, that appeared on Made in California might be seen as a clue to the up-coming November Party! Naked release… any other clues in that box, for other sets to come?

The stripped version of Barbara Ann first appeared on 2001’s Hawthorne, CA comp, so I suggest you look there first for any “clues.”


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: beacharg on October 22, 2015, 06:40:21 PM
I'm really impressed by the reactions over here... Don't get me wrong, this is better than NOTHING; but out of universe of things that can be released they chose this???? Party must be one of the least interesting and most boring albums of their entire catalogue. Fragile production, "empty" sounds & crappy vocals (some parts even out of tune). Plus, this compilation is full of chat-fillers and repeated songs; and 90% of those songs are or were available somewhere (even on YouTube...), I've got most of them. Songs that I only played once.

Who's the target of this product? Super-mega-archi-hardcore fans? Cause those are the only ones who will buy this. Sorry to be a downer, but I'm just disappointed. What we have to do to get all the great still-unreleased songs, or deep live cuts?  ??? ??? ???


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: lostbeachboy on October 22, 2015, 07:24:37 PM
I mean seriously.. Of all there albums THIS one gets special treatment. Lame.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Steve Mayo on October 22, 2015, 07:39:32 PM
since when has the party lp ever been certified gold?


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: puni puni on October 22, 2015, 10:14:28 PM
The cover is literally the Party cover with inverted color palette and new B&W photos. They probably should have inverted the photographs as well so that it would be more obvious. That cyan and blue doesn't really work together at first glance.

Also, it's blatantly obvious that this is being issued for copyright reasons, and also so that the real archival release for 1965 isn't disproportionately focused on Party.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: The Shift on October 22, 2015, 10:23:39 PM
The version of Barbarian, stripped of Party sounds, that appeared on Made in California might be seen as a clue to the up-coming November Party! Naked release… any other clues in that box, for other sets to come?

The stripped version of Barbara Ann first appeared on 2001’s Hawthorne, CA comp, so I suggest you look there first for any “clues.”

Fair-do… bad memory! :)


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Custom Machine on October 22, 2015, 10:49:38 PM
<<couldn't disagree more, it was apparent to me that voice's Deans without guessing upon first hearing .>>

Sorry, dead wrong.  I've known Dean for decades.  This is Carl's voice; I am sure Andrew or Alan or any longtime scholar can confirm.

Having never met Dean, and only met Carl once, but after years of listening to their respective voices I must say that I agree completely that that is not Dean's voice, but rather Carl disguising his voice, followed by Al with an "Oh, shh ..."


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Custom Machine on October 22, 2015, 10:55:06 PM
Concerning the cover ... for an "Uncovered and Unplugged" release I think the cover works extremely well, as it's based on the original but is clearly differentiated from it with the inverted color palette and black and white studio photos. No way would anyone mistake this for the original, but it's obviously based on the original.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Smilin Ed H on October 22, 2015, 11:20:15 PM
Uncovered, unplugged and soon to be released:

http://fridaynightboys300.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/the-beach-boys-party-uncovered-and.html


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: c-man on October 23, 2015, 04:06:31 AM
Listening to that scripted dialogue on the Made In California boxed-set from the party sessions--Dean Torrence identifying himself as Al Jardine, Dennis' mechanical "Come In" reply to the knocking sound effect, plus "Hey Dave, YOU BROUGHT THE RECORDS!" are all positively a scream to me.  Give me more of that hilarious nonsense

It is NOT Dean doing the Al Jardine parody - it IS Carl. :)

And, it's not "Hey Dave, YOU BROUGHT THE RECORDS!" - it's "Hey Steve, YOU BROUGHT THE RECORDS!" - as in Steve Korthof. Although "Dave" (as in Dave Marks) does get name-checked at some point - kind of like former members Dave and Glen were name-checked in-between takes at the "Our Prayer" session a year later. Wow - hard to believe the were recording SMiLE a mere YEAR after recording Party!.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Cool Cool Water on October 23, 2015, 06:25:59 AM
Uncovered, unplugged and soon to be released:

http://fridaynightboys300.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/the-beach-boys-party-uncovered-and.html

Cheers!


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: HeyJude on October 23, 2015, 08:32:34 AM
The cover is literally the Party cover with inverted color palette and new B&W photos. They probably should have inverted the photographs as well so that it would be more obvious. That cyan and blue doesn't really work together at first glance.

Also, it's blatantly obvious that this is being issued for copyright reasons, and also so that the real archival release for 1965 isn't disproportionately focused on Party.

But it's interesting that, assuming the motivation for this release is the "Copyright Extension" issue, they chose to go with a physical release (both CD and vinyl), which, while always welcomed and preferable to download-only, gives the release a bit more of a "prestige" sort of vibe.

And in that sense, it is rather ironic that one of their semi-throwaway albums (yes, I know many like it; I certainly like it too, just not more than many if not most of their other albums) is getting a nicer archival physical deluxe release than any other album in their catalog other than "Pet Sounds" or "Smile."

Pointing out the irony really doesn't serve much purpose though, because we know the likely reason (copyright extension) the set exists in the first place, and it may well just be a case of someone managing to somehow pitch a physical release to Capitol/Universal and BRI.

We can also only hope that if a nicer, deluxe physical release like this is well-received by fans and critics, BRI will be convinced to do more archival packages like this, rather than doing more hits CDs with a smattering of "new" archival stuff.

I do still worry that BRI has no motivation to champion and perhaps even release the material themselves rather than going through Capitol/Universal. Obviously, if a major label like that wants to get behind a release, it will get out to more people. But assuming Capitol/Universal isn't interested in big deluxe sets for many or all of the BBs albums (and I'm not sure a label would be right now, considering a hunk of the album catalog has been reissued *multiple* times just in the last three or so years), I really hope BRI self-distributes (digitally at least) more archival studio and live material.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Ram4 on October 23, 2015, 12:02:53 PM
I think the fact that it's technically two albums (the original with party overdubs and the songs without the party overdubs plus sessions) makes it an easy archival release with some appeal.  I like that I could play the Hawthorne Devoted To You instead of the party version if I wanted to.  Now you have basically everything.  I never got around to getting these sessions on bootleg, so for me, it's mostly all new. 


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: KDS on October 23, 2015, 12:05:13 PM
It looks like Amazon's list price is $19.99. 

Released on Nov 20th, just in time for Christmas......just like 50 years ago.   


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 23, 2015, 12:15:35 PM
Listening to that scripted dialogue on the Made In California boxed-set from the party sessions--Dean Torrence identifying himself as Al Jardine, Dennis' mechanical "Come In" reply to the knocking sound effect, plus "Hey Dave, YOU BROUGHT THE RECORDS!" are all positively a scream to me.  Give me more of that hilarious nonsense

It is NOT Dean doing the Al Jardine parody - it IS Carl. :)

And, it's not "Hey Dave, YOU BROUGHT THE RECORDS!" - it's "Hey Steve, YOU BROUGHT THE RECORDS!" - as in Steve Korthof. Although "Dave" (as in Dave Marks) does get name-checked at some point - kind of like former members Dave and Glen were name-checked in-between takes at the "Our Prayer" session a year later. Wow - hard to believe the were recording SMiLE a mere YEAR after recording Party!.

Thanks for confirming Craig.  It's obvious to me it's Carl as well.

Hideyo -- sorry, but you were also the one who thought you heard Dennis playing drums and Carl playing guitar on "The Monkey's Uncle," and "Blind a, blind a" on "Surf's Up"...


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: CenturyDeprived on October 23, 2015, 12:24:47 PM
The cover is literally the Party cover with inverted color palette and new B&W photos. They probably should have inverted the photographs as well so that it would be more obvious. That cyan and blue doesn't really work together at first glance.

Also, it's blatantly obvious that this is being issued for copyright reasons, and also so that the real archival release for 1965 isn't disproportionately focused on Party.

But it's interesting that, assuming the motivation for this release is the "Copyright Extension" issue, they chose to go with a physical release (both CD and vinyl), which, while always welcomed and preferable to download-only, gives the release a bit more of a "prestige" sort of vibe.

And in that sense, it is rather ironic that one of their semi-throwaway albums (yes, I know many like it; I certainly like it too, just not more than many if not most of their other albums) is getting a nicer archival physical deluxe release than any other album in their catalog other than "Pet Sounds" or "Smile."

Pointing out the irony really doesn't serve much purpose though, because we know the likely reason (copyright extension) the set exists in the first place, and it may well just be a case of someone managing to somehow pitch a physical release to Capitol/Universal and BRI.

We can also only hope that if a nicer, deluxe physical release like this is well-received by fans and critics, BRI will be convinced to do more archival packages like this, rather than doing more hits CDs with a smattering of "new" archival stuff.

I do still worry that BRI has no motivation to champion and perhaps even release the material themselves rather than going through Capitol/Universal. Obviously, if a major label like that wants to get behind a release, it will get out to more people. But assuming Capitol/Universal isn't interested in big deluxe sets for many or all of the BBs albums (and I'm not sure a label would be right now, considering a hunk of the album catalog has been reissued *multiple* times just in the last three or so years), I really hope BRI self-distributes (digitally at least) more archival studio and live material.

It is very ironic. Absolutely. I'll bet it may have something to do with the fact that this box set can be marketed as The BBs covering BOTH The Beatles + The Stones songs, with the "Satisfaction" cover being previously completely unreleased. Multiple cover songs of two the most famous 60s bands, being covered by another one of the most famous 60s bands, is not something that happens too often, so maybe that helped lend itself towards the physical release concept.

Plus, the whole original idea of the Party album at the time of its release (I think?) was for it to be a record that emulates an actual party, and thus for the listener to grab their potato chips, beers, and friends, and sit back to spin the album on vinyl at a party with friends (or by themselves, thus creating the sonic illusion of being at a party). Maybe it makes a little more sense for this set (instead of the piecemeal previous copyright extension releases) to get a physical release, when viewed in that context.

I still wish they'd all be released with physical options, but I'm just glad they're coming out at all!


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: hideyotsuburaya on October 23, 2015, 12:56:32 PM
nothing to be sorry about.  That ('Al Jardine') voice's Dean's


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Paul J B on October 23, 2015, 01:44:20 PM
Uncovered, unplugged and soon to be released:

http://fridaynightboys300.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/the-beach-boys-party-uncovered-and.html

What is in the "free gift from the Beach Boys" box next to the album in that photo of Brian? Is it peanuts or something? I've seen that photo before and never paid attention to it. That would be a great collectible to have ....whatever it is.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Douchepool on October 23, 2015, 01:50:15 PM
Really cool that the release is not just another reissue padded out with bonus tracks. Give or take a few tracks it's ALL previously unreleased stuff. It'd be nice to have these in release quality.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Alan Smith on October 23, 2015, 02:09:37 PM
Uncovered, unplugged and soon to be released:

http://fridaynightboys300.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/the-beach-boys-party-uncovered-and.html

What is in the "free gift from the Beach Boys" box next to the album in that photo of Brian? Is it peanuts or something? I've seen that photo before and never paid attention to it. That would be a great collectible to have ....whatever it is.
The legendary Party bag 'o chips:
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,16859.msg419303.html#msg419303


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Paul J B on October 23, 2015, 02:55:05 PM
Uncovered, unplugged and soon to be released:

http://fridaynightboys300.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/the-beach-boys-party-uncovered-and.html

What is in the "free gift from the Beach Boys" box next to the album in that photo of Brian? Is it peanuts or something? I've seen that photo before and never paid attention to it. That would be a great collectible to have ....whatever it is.
The legendary Party bag 'o chips:
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,16859.msg419303.html#msg419303

Thanks Alan. Wow I never knew about this. And no one has seen one or knows if any still exist huh? I bet one turns up some day.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Alan Smith on October 23, 2015, 02:59:48 PM
Uncovered, unplugged and soon to be released:

http://fridaynightboys300.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/the-beach-boys-party-uncovered-and.html

What is in the "free gift from the Beach Boys" box next to the album in that photo of Brian? Is it peanuts or something? I've seen that photo before and never paid attention to it. That would be a great collectible to have ....whatever it is.
The legendary Party bag 'o chips:
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,16859.msg419303.html#msg419303

Thanks Alan. Wow I never knew about this. And no one has seen one or knows if any still exist huh? I bet one turns up some day.

Yeah! It would be a great find historically, not to mention all the collectors who are hungry for this item.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Custom Machine on October 23, 2015, 11:27:11 PM
OK, so here's what I wanna know ...

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AFSIK, the BB Party album potato chip bags are unknown to exist in collector circles, despite the Billboard article, which claims that a million nickel bags of BB Party Album potato chips bags would be manufactured, packed in counter holders of 50 bags each.

We have a promo photo of Brian in a record store with an in-store display of the bags of chips, but there is no way that display would hold 50 bags, as mentioned in the Billboard article. So -- has anyone ever even claimed to have seen or received (for free or as a part of a BB Party album purchase) one of those bags? Has anyone done a close-up zoom to help determine if the potato chip bags in the BW record store photos actually contain potato chip bags with images of the BB Party album?

It seems to me that if such potato chips bags ever existed in the quantity mentioned that by now at least one of those bags would have shown up, for example found stuffed (empty) by the original owner inside a copy of the Party album LP.

The bottom line for me is I'm wondering if those promotional bags of potato bags were ever manufactured and released to the public. Considering the rare BB stuff that has shown up over the years, I'm thinking that the potato chips bags were never manufactured.

Comments?


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Alan Smith on October 24, 2015, 12:00:32 AM
OK, so here's what I wanna know ...

(http://i62.tinypic.com/2ce6dqv.png)

(http://i60.tinypic.com/10wqst4.png)

AFSIK, the BB Party album potato chip bags are unknown to exist in collector circles, despite the Billboard article, which claims that a million nickel bags of BB Party Album potato chips bags would be manufactured, packed in counter holders of 50 bags each.

We have a promo photo of Brian in a record store with an in-store display of the bags of chips, but there is no way that display would hold 50 bags, as mentioned in the Billboard article. So -- has anyone ever even claimed to have seen or received (for free or as a part of a BB Party album purchase) one of those bags? Has anyone done a close-up zoom to help determine if the potato chip bags in the BW record store photos actually contain potato chip bags with images of the BB Party album?

It seems to me that if such potato chips bags ever existed in the quantity mentioned that by now at least one of those bags would have shown up, for example found stuffed (empty) by the original owner inside a copy of the Party album LP.

The bottom line for me is I'm wondering if those promotional bags of potato bags were ever manufactured and released to the public. Considering the rare BB stuff that has shown up over the years, I'm thinking that the potato chips bags were never manufactured.

Comments?


Hey Custom - check out the link I posted just above, read GuitarFool's thoughts & continue Jim Murphy's post - I think you guys are on the same page.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: mikeddonn on October 24, 2015, 02:41:03 AM
Quote from Jim Murphy on the thread Alan linked:

"The Great Potato Chip Bag Mystery deepens . . . . Thanks MFP for the link to the Billboard article. 

So, Capitol manufactures one million bags of chips with the Party album graphics and, so far, not one has surfaced? That just seems to defy the odds. Could it be they were all eaten? Maybe Bruce Johnston squirreled away a bag or two that are resting comfortably in his Beach Boys storage locker!  With the albums's 50th anniversary not too far off, maybe Capitol/EMI will release a Deluxe Edition with all the other tracks recorded for the album and recreate the great potato chip give-away"

Maybe this is why we are getting a physically release of the copyright extension Party! album! We can dream...

Jim, I bet you didn't think when you wrote that we would actually get a deluxe release.  Or did you?  ;D


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: c-man on October 24, 2015, 05:58:25 AM
nothing to be sorry about.  That ('Al Jardine') voice's Dean's

Not.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on October 24, 2015, 06:48:20 AM
nothing to be sorry about.  That ('Al Jardine') voice's Dean's

Y'know, saying the guy who not only did the liners but also listened to the original session tapes is wrong is, to be polite about it, seriously stupid.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: The Shift on October 24, 2015, 07:40:44 AM
nothing to be sorry about.  That ('Al Jardine') voice's Dean's

Y'know, saying the guy who not only did the liners but also listened to the original session tapes is wrong is, to be polite about it, seriously stupid.

Currently typical board form :(


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Paul J B on October 24, 2015, 09:42:07 AM
Back to the chips. I missed the discussion a couple of years back...but this really cool.

I have collected bubble gum cards, and anyone that is into that hobby knows it's very rare for a full display box of say Beatles cards to turn up. Less rare an unopened pack, even less rare a loose wrapper. And of corse the cards themselves are easy to come by. Bubble gum cards were produced in huge numbers and sold in anything from a candy store to a hardware store. Since it is very rare to find display boxes and unopened boxes it would seem very unlikely an unopened bag of party chips and or the display is out there.

If Beach Boys Party Chips were really produced, there would have been no where near the amount of Batman or Beatles or Astronauts bubble gum boxes that were manufactured and distributed. HOWEVER, if these chips really were available at place of purchase for the album...then would wager minimally, a couple of Party albums out there somewhere have got to have an empty wrapper folded for a keepsake and stuck in the album sleeve. Teenagers without a doubt would have done that. We saved our bubble gum wrappers pressed in books and such. 50 years later and nothing.....leads me in the direction that full production and distribution of chips never materialized.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Alan Boyd on October 24, 2015, 09:53:23 AM
nothing to be sorry about.  That ('Al Jardine') voice's Dean's

It's Carl Wilson. 

There were several sessions for the Party album in August and September of 1965.  Dean was not present for that particular session.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Emily on October 24, 2015, 10:24:24 AM
It looks like Amazon's list price is $19.99. 

Released on Nov 20th, just in time for Christmas......just like 50 years ago.   
Same date as Adele's new album. My daughter and I will both have a good day!


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 24, 2015, 11:24:20 AM
nothing to be sorry about.  That ('Al Jardine') voice's Dean's

It's Carl Wilson.  

There were several sessions for the Party album in August and September of 1965.  Dean was not present for that particular session.

EDIT: Mic dropping "Boo Ya" GIF deleted out of consideration, but when the information provided by Craig Slowinski (author, liner notes contributor, and Beach Boys sessionographer) is called into question by a poster without any supporting evidence, it annoys me, as it is disrespectful of the hours and hours of research that Craig has put in. It was good to see Alan Boyd, the Beach Boys' official archivist (and who rarely participates in this board), step in to confirm Craig's information.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: silodweller on October 24, 2015, 12:31:50 PM
May I ask a question or two, without any aggression attached (of course) but rather with a mind filled with a certain amount of frustration?  
 
This is regarding an observation John Manning made earlier in this thread.

Why, oh why do so many topics on this board end up turning ugly?  I completely understand that there are very knowledgeable individuals here who may have dealt with Beach Boys material for a number of years and therefore hold themselves in rather high esteem but I have to point out that after going through a number of topics through the years, whenever someone perhaps less knowledgeable comments, or indeed further enquires as to how or why something was recorded or what was said by whom at certain sessions, then why do some of those highly knowledgeable members take great offense and turn nasty?  Perhaps those board members should reconsider this approach and choose to either address the comment or enquiry in a less hoity manner or simply settle on a "no comment".  Indeed if you feel you are completely satisfied with the information you hold then why make a point of name-calling if someone debates your point?  I understand the annoyance of having someone less informed as it were going on and on about something and never reading what is being said to them but instead continues to jab and cause upheaval, but if someone simply asks along the lines, "Are you sure?" or "Is that REALLY how it happened?" then why not answer them in a decent manner instead of reverting to nastiness? Yes, you're knowledgeable and I for one am grateful to have members on this board like yourselves who take time out to give of their valuable information, etc. but when topics so often end up leaving a bitter taste in your mouth then why should anyone want to continue asking questions, posting their views, or indeed even continue visiting this board?  

Again, I am not trying to cause any problems here with this post.  These are just observations I have made which is why I have posted these questions.  I usually keep pretty much to myself 'round here but let's try to be just a little friendlier on this board, please?  


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Emily on October 24, 2015, 01:31:54 PM

... if you feel you are completely satisfied with the information you hold then why make a point of name-calling if someone debates your point?  I understand the annoyance of having someone less informed as it were going on and on about something and never reading what is being said to them but instead continues to jab and cause upheaval, but if someone simply asks along the lines, "Are you sure?" or "Is that REALLY how it happened?" then why not answer them in a decent manner instead of reverting to nastiness?

I think in this instance, and in several that I've seen on this board, by the time things got a little nasty the matter was not being debated nor were curious questions being asked. It was more flat contradiction with no argument being presented. See John Cleese here (I got this elsewhere on the board, thank you whomever): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XNkjDuSVXiE
It can be VERY frustrating when you have fairly certain knowledge of something and know you have more expertise than someone and they repeatedly flat-out contradict your assertion without even giving an argument. I agree that the best thing to do if you can't keep your patience is walk away, but that can be difficult in the face of such insulting obstinance.
Note: I claim no expertise on the subject matter at hand, but have faced this on other subjects and find it very trying.
Note 2: The internet is a particularly prickly place.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Custom Machine on October 24, 2015, 02:43:04 PM
Hey Custom - check out the link I posted just above, read GuitarFool's thoughts & continue Jim Murphy's post - I think you guys are on the same page.

Thanks for the link, Alan. Checking it out today, I now recall reading that thread when it was new a couple of years ago, and it was informative to reread many of the posts again.

The orientation of the potato chip bags makes it difficult to read what's printed on them, but on close inspection I don't see anything that seems to say Beach Boys Party or resemble a reproduction of the Party album cover, so this seems to be further evidence that no Party album potato chip bags were ever printed and instead some standard 5 cent bags of chips were used for the promo pic with Brian. Plus if the bags did have a reproduction of the Party album cover, it seems that the photographer may have oriented at least one of the bags so that at least part of the Party album cover would be apparent.

The cardboard display Take one Free! Now why don't you buy the Beach Boys Party, Free gift from The Beach Boys, etc is obviously professionally printed, so the mystery remains, was this the only one ever placed in a record store, and just for the BW promo photo, or where other displays and standard issue bags of potato chips sent out to record stores around the county? As someone, I think it was Jim Murphy, stated in the thread Alan Smith previously linked, if a store received 50 small bags of potato chips to be given away free, they wouldn't have lasted long, maybe a few days at best. But apparently no one from back in the day has come forward and publicly stated that they recall seeing and presumably consuming such a free bag of chips.

We know from the Billboard article that Capitol had planned a Party album potato chip promotion, and from this photo that they went to the trouble of printing at least one cardboard display. So perhaps they got as far as printing the displays when it was decided that the promotion with custom bags would be too expensive and they did a promo shoot with BW and standard off the shelf bags. Then perhaps the whole idea was abandoned.

Where did this pic of BW in the record store with the chips originally appear? I noticed in the earlier thread that Guitarfool noted that BW is wearing the exact same clothing in the bookstore photo.



Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 24, 2015, 04:14:27 PM
I'll repeat my post from the other thread, but a number of years ago I had the pleasure of meeting a lady in Jackson, Mississippi who's father had been a Capitol Records sales rep in Southeastern United States the 1960's.  I told her that I was a Beach Boys fan, and she proceeded to tell me a story about a class picnic at her school, and how her father had provided BEACH BOYS PARTY! picnic baskets for the event.  Later I suspected that maybe they were just generic picnic baskets filled with BEACH BOYS PARTY! potato chips, but who knows.

Lee


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: CenturyDeprived on October 24, 2015, 04:18:17 PM
Has anyone ever asked Brian or any other of the Boys about the mythical potato chip bags? If it's food-related, Brian's possibly gonna be more likely to remember!


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: mikeddonn on October 24, 2015, 04:25:37 PM
Someone must know.  Would there be a log kept somewhere? An order book from the supplier who manufactured the chips? Employees who handled them? Record shop owners etc. 

Maybe they ended up in the same landfill site as the SMiLE sleeves!


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Douchepool on October 24, 2015, 05:01:03 PM
EDIT: Mic dropping "Boo Ya" GIF deleted out of consideration, but when the information provided by Craig Slowinski (author, liner notes contributor, and Beach Boys sessionographer) is called into question by a poster without any supporting evidence, it annoys me, as it is disrespectful of the hours and hours of research that Craig has put in. It was good to see Alan Boyd, the Beach Boys' official archivist (and who rarely participates in this board), step in to confirm Craig's information.

I don't know how anyone could hear Dean Torrence in that bit to begin with. Kind of sad that it took more than one person who actually knows what Carl sounds like to set the record straight.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Custom Machine on October 24, 2015, 05:02:48 PM
I'll repeat my post from the other thread, but a number of years ago I had the pleasure of meeting a lady in Jackson, Mississippi who's father had been a Capitol Records sales rep in Southeastern United States the 1960's.  I told her that I was a Beach Boys fan, and she proceeded to tell me a story about a class picnic at her school, and how her father had provided BEACH BOYS PARTY! picnic baskets for the event.  Later I suspected that maybe they were just generic picnic baskets filled with BEACH BOYS PARTY! potato chips, but who knows.

Lee

Or maybe the "baskets" were the BB Party cardboard displays filled with standard 5 cent bags of chips.

Either way, a cool mystery that may never be solved.



Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 24, 2015, 08:20:46 PM
Someone must know.  Would there be a log kept somewhere? An order book from the supplier who manufactured the chips? Employees who handled them? Record shop owners etc. 

Maybe they ended up in the same landfill site as the SMiLE sleeves!

Mike, I think you're on the right track... A few months ago the esteemed Jim Murphy won on eBay a vintage 1965 promotional towel that said "Capitol Records will bring you SUMMER DAYS (and Summer Nights!!!)".  Down in the fine print the copyright notice says "(C) Jack Nadel Intl".  So I did some research on Jack Nadel International, and they seem to have been the major L.A. producer of promotional swag from that era, and they appear to still be in business:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Nadel_International

If someone could get hold of them, I bet their files would have a wealth of information on Beach Boys promotional items -- and maybe some samples?!?

Lee


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Peter Reum on October 24, 2015, 09:08:26 PM
It is great that Universal is offering vinyl and cd versions of this release. I'd like to thank whoever made that decision.I may be old fashioned, but I like cds or vinyl better than digital downloads.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Wirestone on October 24, 2015, 10:01:58 PM
The potato chip mystery is one of the great board sagas of the last couple of years. It's such a fascinating idea -- and the fact that not one has turned up beggars belief. Obviously, that suggests that the bags weren't produced as reported, but it's nearly impossible to prove a negative. So part of me still wonders if -- one day -- someone will find one!


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Custom Machine on October 25, 2015, 12:13:29 AM
The Nov. 6, 1965 Billboard article stating that 1 million bags of potato chips with the BB Party album cover printed on them will be distributed also mentions "other phases of the Beach Boys promotion" which include "a motion floor merchandiser containing five different albums from the Beach Boys catalog, full color streamers for window displays, and full scale radio and newspaper advertising ..."

Do motion floor merchandisers and full color window display streamers from the BB Party era exist, either in photos or in collections? How about BB Party album newspaper ads?



Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: mikeddonn on October 25, 2015, 03:39:49 AM
Someone must know.  Would there be a log kept somewhere? An order book from the supplier who manufactured the chips? Employees who handled them? Record shop owners etc. 

Maybe they ended up in the same landfill site as the SMiLE sleeves!

Mike, I think you're on the right track... A few months ago the esteemed Jim Murphy won on eBay a vintage 1965 promotional towel that said "Capitol Records will bring you SUMMER DAYS (and Summer Nights!!!)".  Down in the fine print the copyright notice says "(C) Jack Nadel Intl".  So I did some research on Jack Nadel International, and they seem to have been the major L.A. producer of promotional swag from that era, and they appear to still be in business:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Nadel_International

If someone could get hold of them, I bet their files would have a wealth of information on Beach Boys promotional items -- and maybe some samples?!?

Lee

Lee, I remember reading about that towel.  Cool item!

What a job that must have been for someone to work for Jack Nadel International!  They might have managed to keep a hold of a lot of those promotional goodies.  ;D.

Hopefully someone can chase up the lead.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Smilin Ed H on October 25, 2015, 03:40:52 AM
double post.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Smilin Ed H on October 25, 2015, 03:45:35 AM
It looks like Amazon's list price is $19.99. 

Released on Nov 20th, just in time for Christmas......just like 50 years ago.   
Same date as Adele's new album. My daughter and I will both have a good day!

Do young people like Adele? I thought her appeal was to the older generation.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Emily on October 25, 2015, 06:35:04 PM
It looks like Amazon's list price is $19.99. 

Released on Nov 20th, just in time for Christmas......just like 50 years ago.   
Same date as Adele's new album. My daughter and I will both have a good day!

Do young people like Adele? I thought her appeal was to the older generation.
I think her appeal is pretty general. My young person acquaintanceship is limited to 8-10 year olds and every girl among them could sing the album 21 straight through.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: TMinthePM on October 26, 2015, 02:34:29 AM
This release looks to be very nice. The tracks that have come out sans party chatter sound terrific. Too bad this thread has crawled up its own ass looking for potato chips.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: HeyJude on October 26, 2015, 06:04:31 AM
Apologies for kind of butting into a thread with an insight that is rather tangential. But concerning the Party potato chips, I totally buy that they actually existed, at least in small numbers. I only say this because in more recent years, I've run across several "collectible" items (not BB-related), newly-produced, that within a very short span of time seem to have dropped off the face of the planet and seemingly never existed.

One would think with the online resources at our fingertips, a message board/group of fans devoted to every possible iteration of everything for all time, that something couldn't be mass produced but in a small scale of maybe a few hundred pieces, and then within a year be so obscure as to not be "researchable" online, but I've seen it happen. I own things, things far newer than the "Party" album, that based on any research, would seem to have never existed.

So I buy that those BB chips existed in some form, and perhaps even beyond the one display that was captured in that pic of Brian.

Don't get me wrong, I totally also think it's quite possible that they never existed beyond whatever partial iteration is seen in that one Brian shot.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: HeyJude on October 26, 2015, 06:24:32 AM
May I ask a question or two, without any aggression attached (of course) but rather with a mind filled with a certain amount of frustration?  
 
This is regarding an observation John Manning made earlier in this thread.

Why, oh why do so many topics on this board end up turning ugly?  I completely understand that there are very knowledgeable individuals here who may have dealt with Beach Boys material for a number of years and therefore hold themselves in rather high esteem but I have to point out that after going through a number of topics through the years, whenever someone perhaps less knowledgeable comments, or indeed further enquires as to how or why something was recorded or what was said by whom at certain sessions, then why do some of those highly knowledgeable members take great offense and turn nasty?  Perhaps those board members should reconsider this approach and choose to either address the comment or enquiry in a less hoity manner or simply settle on a "no comment".  Indeed if you feel you are completely satisfied with the information you hold then why make a point of name-calling if someone debates your point?  I understand the annoyance of having someone less informed as it were going on and on about something and never reading what is being said to them but instead continues to jab and cause upheaval, but if someone simply asks along the lines, "Are you sure?" or "Is that REALLY how it happened?" then why not answer them in a decent manner instead of reverting to nastiness? Yes, you're knowledgeable and I for one am grateful to have members on this board like yourselves who take time out to give of their valuable information, etc. but when topics so often end up leaving a bitter taste in your mouth then why should anyone want to continue asking questions, posting their views, or indeed even continue visiting this board?  

Again, I am not trying to cause any problems here with this post.  These are just observations I have made which is why I have posted these questions.  I usually keep pretty much to myself 'round here but let's try to be just a little friendlier on this board, please?  

While I agree that, on boards I've read over the years where true experts and insiders post, there is occasionally too much weight given to their comments (or rather, more often, disrespect or dismissiveness aimed at some average schmoes on the same board.) I certainly *have* seen insiders and experts be wrong online. I also agree that even when insiders and experts are 100% right and someone else 100% wrong, there is a respectful, restrained way of pointing that out.

However, in the case of this Dean/Carl/Al voice thing, I have to say that a one-liner post such as "nothing to be sorry about.  That ('Al Jardine') voice's Dean's", posted *after* many others have generally politely pointed out why that assertion is wrong, is a rather juvenile, "YouTube comments section"-caliber sort of post. A one-liner post like that insults (and/or is utterly dismissive) of insiders/experts who have disagreed, including several folks who have gone to the trouble of offering posts detailing *why* they disagree instead of offering one-sentence "mic drop" posts, and just in general reeks of internet fanboy flame-caliber debates from the 1990s.

I mean really, you have all these insiders who have listened to the session tapes, read the AFM sheets, spent years *listening* to these voices, and the best post you can offer is a one line "I'm right, I'm right, la la la la" as you run away with your fingers in your ears? I don't think it's wrong to question or debate even the highest of BB authorities here. Even I've politely and cordially challenged an insider or two over the years (I remember an enlightening debate about single mixes and fade-out times for "California Girls" for instance). And I truly have on occasion seen folks too quickly immediately side with an "insider" or "expert" and be a bit too dismissive of "regular" fans/experts (the "Brian says he doesn't use autotune, so shut the f*** up everybody" sort of posts come to mind).

But on this particular issue, I have to say what leads me to not have any empathy for the dissenter who thinks it's Dean's voice is that the folks who are insiders and experts *also* went to the trouble of posting details as to why. They didn't just say "I know Dean's voice, and that isn't Dean, so STFU", etc.

And some of these debates are obviously never going to be definitely solved to some folks' satisfaction. Beatles fans are still debating whether it's John or Paul singing the "aaaaaah" vocal part after Paul's "I went into a dream" section of "A Day in the Life", with Lennon fanboys insisting it's John (which I think a lot of fans understandably initially thought it was), even after some audio sleuthing/forensics and a good listen with an open mind indicates it's probably Paul singing that part.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Paul J B on October 26, 2015, 07:28:51 AM
The potato chip mystery is one of the great board sagas of the last couple of years. It's such a fascinating idea -- and the fact that not one has turned up beggars belief. Obviously, that suggests that the bags weren't produced as suggested, but it's nearly impossible to prove a negative. So part of me still wonders if -- one day -- someone will find one!

I totally agree. My other post last page using bubble gum cards as an analogy leads me to think they indeed were NOT mass produced and distributed. The odd thing is, at least one display box was made as it it seen in the photo. Would Capitol have gone through the trouble and expense to have a printer create the display box to hold the chips and then scrap the idea? Possibly...yes. We know a ton of Smile covers were printed for the album that was never finished. What potato chip factory might have at least tentatively had a contract to produce the chips? Has anyone dug into that? In 1965 there were not dozens of craft potato chip makers. We need our own Jim Rockford or Sherlock Holmes.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Marty Castillo on October 26, 2015, 07:40:34 AM
However, in the case of this Dean/Carl/Al voice thing, I have to say that a one-liner post such as "nothing to be sorry about.  That ('Al Jardine') voice's Dean's", posted *after* many others have generally politely pointed out why that assertion is wrong, is a rather juvenile, "YouTube comments section"-caliber sort of post. A one-liner post like that insults (and/or is utterly dismissive) of insiders/experts who have disagreed, including several folks who have gone to the trouble of offering posts detailing *why* they disagree instead of offering one-sentence "mic drop" posts, and just in general reeks of internet fanboy flame-caliber debates from the 1990s.

Spot on.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: 37!ws on October 26, 2015, 08:44:02 AM
I applaud HeyJude; excellent way of putting things.

Now, to add my two cents...

I have to go see my dermatologist. Why? Because I've really damaged the skin on my scalp from all the head scratching I'm doing over people on this board dissing this release...oh, yes, and without even hearing it. Was R"l"aaBBP! a Brian masterpiece? No, and I don't think it was ever meant to be. It was admittedly rush-recorded and rush-released to get Capitol off the band's back in terms of getting a new album out in time for Christmas. A live album was suggested, but since they released Beach Boys Concert the year before, I think Party! was a very creative compromise. In the end, it's a really, really fun listen and a concept that about 18 years later would be embraced by MTV.

But what really makes me scratch my head...flash back to 1994. The capitol twofers were gone and replaced by single-album CDs with no liner notes and no bonus tracks. All the albums from Sunflower through The Beach Boys were out of print. Over the next couple of years archival projects were announced and scrapped. (Remember how circa 1998 there was supposed to be a hits compilation that contained a stereo mix of "All Summer Long"?) The Pet Sounds Sessions was delayed over a year. We were just aching for new product. We were screaming for the Capitol twofers to come back and for the 1970-and-later albums to be put back in print.

I think the flood gates started to open in 1997 when The Pet Sounds Sessions was finally released. In 1998 we had Endless Harmony and Ultimate Christmas. In 2000 all the albums from Sunflower through The Beach Boys were remastered and reissued. The following year the Capitol twofers were brought back into print with new masters. (although at least the 1965 twofer sounded like garbage.) We had Hawthorne, CA.

And more recently, we've had two, IMHO, incredibly well done box sets. In 2013 and 2014 we had archival copyright extension releases, one of which had a lot of material that wasn't even in danger of copyright expiration but was, IMHO, quite generous of BRI, to let us have.

So now we get a very, very nice collection of Party! outtakes....and Smiley Smilers are outraged. Seriously? Man, I can't wait to hear this stuff. And I can imagine the licensing hell BRI must have gone through to get the publishing rights to some of the songs on here.

I'm not saying we all have to go buy it and love it, but FFS, a release of previously unreleased material shouldn't offend people (unless it's the original mix of "Hey Little Tomboy" or "Lazy Lizzie").

And I wonder how many people who are offended by this release somehow didn't mind plunking down $20 - $25 per CD for Unsurpassed Masters Vol. 10.



Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Custom Machine on October 26, 2015, 10:44:19 AM

So now we get a very, very nice collection of Party! outtakes....and Smiley Smilers are outraged. Seriously? Man, I can't wait to hear this stuff. And I can imagine the licensing hell BRI must have gone through to get the publishing rights to some of the songs on here.

I'm not saying we all have to go buy it and love it, but FFS, a release of previously unreleased material shouldn't offend people (unless it's the original mix of "Hey Little Tomboy" or "Lazy Lizzie").

And I wonder how many people who are offended by this release somehow didn't mind plunking down $20 - $25 per CD for Unsurpassed Masters Vol. 10.


This thread contains many positive comments about this release. Only two people expressed lack of much interest. I don't see any comments from Smiley Smilers who sounded outraged. A couple of people didn't like the cover, but personally I think it looks great, paying homage to the original but done in a way that no one will mistake it from the original.

I'm really looking forward to BB Party Uncovered and Unplugged plan to purchase both the CD and the vinyl. I do hope there are very few people who will fail to support this release because they have similar master tapes audio on Unsurpassed Masters 10.



Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: HeyJude on October 26, 2015, 12:49:47 PM
I certainly have no animosity towards this release; I welcome it. But just for me personally, it’s just a few notches above having, say, the uncut Hite Morgan tapes or something. It’s interesting historically, it’s a good thing to have in the collection and in the archive as a student of the band. But with the exception of maybe the first one or two BB albums, it’s probably the last 60s or 70s studio album I’d prioritize to have a nice deluxe two-disc presentation for.

We should have had packages like this for “All Summer Long” and “Today” and “Sunflower”, etc. And hopefully we still will perhaps!

I can’t imagine anyone at BRI thought “Party” should be the first album (excepting PS and Smile) to be explored in depth and put out a deluxe, physical CD package. It’s a nice cool bonus as a result of the “copyright extension” thing.   


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Emily on October 26, 2015, 02:08:59 PM

And some of these debates are obviously never going to be definitely solved to some folks' satisfaction. Beatles fans are still debating whether it's John or Paul singing the "aaaaaah" vocal part after Paul's "I went into a dream" section of "A Day in the Life", with Lennon fanboys insisting it's John (which I think a lot of fans understandably initially thought it was), even after some audio sleuthing/forensics and a good listen with an open mind indicates it's probably Paul singing that part.
I completely agree with your whole post except, and I know that this is totally obnoxious, contrary and self-contradictory of me, but It's John, it's John, la la la la. And don't forget the fangirls!


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: HeyJude on October 26, 2015, 03:44:39 PM

And some of these debates are obviously never going to be definitely solved to some folks' satisfaction. Beatles fans are still debating whether it's John or Paul singing the "aaaaaah" vocal part after Paul's "I went into a dream" section of "A Day in the Life", with Lennon fanboys insisting it's John (which I think a lot of fans understandably initially thought it was), even after some audio sleuthing/forensics and a good listen with an open mind indicates it's probably Paul singing that part.
I completely agree with your whole post except, and I know that this is totally obnoxious, contrary and self-contradictory of me, but It's John, it's John, la la la la. And don't forget the fangirls!

I was pretty 50/50 on it and could lean either way for many years in the past. But there's a good breakdown, if I'm recalling correctly, in the amazing research book "Recording the Beatles", and I remember coming away feeling they went as far as one could go towards proving it's Paul outside of having actual film footage of the guys cutting the vocals.

Awesome recording either way of course.

I remember the epic discussion some years back when that "Daddy Dear/Susie Cincinatti" Holland home recording surfaced, and there were debates about whether it was Brian or Al. Now *that* was interesting and informative conversation. No AFM contracts, no session tapes, just the same murky recording that everyone had to pick apart.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Emily on October 26, 2015, 08:12:43 PM


And some of these debates are obviously never going to be definitely solved to some folks' satisfaction. Beatles fans are still debating whether it's John or Paul singing the "aaaaaah" vocal part after Paul's "I went into a dream" section of "A Day in the Life", with Lennon fanboys insisting it's John (which I think a lot of fans understandably initially thought it was), even after some audio sleuthing/forensics and a good listen with an open mind indicates it's probably Paul singing that part.

I was pretty 50/50 on it and could lean either way for many years in the past. But there's a good breakdown, if I'm recalling correctly, in the amazing research book "Recording the Beatles", and I remember coming away feeling they went as far as one could go towards proving it's Paul outside of having actual film footage of the guys cutting the vocals.

Awesome recording either way of course.

Blasted evidence keeps ruining my hypotheses! I'll have to check that book out.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: c-man on October 26, 2015, 09:57:28 PM

I was pretty 50/50 on it and could lean either way for many years in the past. But there's a good breakdown, if I'm recalling correctly, in the amazing research book "Recording the Beatles", and I remember coming away feeling they went as far as one could go towards proving it's Paul outside of having actual film footage of the guys cutting the vocals.


On Amazon, but rather pricey:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0978520009?keywords=Recording%20The%20Beatles&qid=1445921457&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

On a closely related note: does anyone know if the 2013 edition of Lewisohn's "The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions" is updated from the '88 edition?


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on October 27, 2015, 01:50:04 AM
If so, maybe he revised the entries which he'd later admitted weren't based of actual fact but his deductions.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Rocky on October 27, 2015, 04:55:29 AM
I'm excited in some sense about this release. I've always enjoyed the "stripped" 'Party' recordings for what they are. There's a question I've had for awhile about those sessions that now seems as good a time as any to ask. Do we know who played what, in terms of instruments, for those sessions. I assume Al plays some, if not all, bass, and of course Carl on guitar. Perhaps this has been well documented elsewhere on the board, but I can't seem to find it. Did Brian, for instance, play any bass on 'Party'? Who played bongos? I can picture Mike running around with a tambourine. Can someone more knowing than I compile a list of "who played what" on the 'Party' album?


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: HeyJude on October 27, 2015, 06:16:16 AM

I was pretty 50/50 on it and could lean either way for many years in the past. But there's a good breakdown, if I'm recalling correctly, in the amazing research book "Recording the Beatles", and I remember coming away feeling they went as far as one could go towards proving it's Paul outside of having actual film footage of the guys cutting the vocals.


On Amazon, but rather pricey:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0978520009?keywords=Recording%20The%20Beatles&qid=1445921457&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

On a closely related note: does anyone know if the 2013 edition of Lewisohn's "The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions" is updated from the '88 edition?

I think I got in on the tail end of the original run of 1,000 copies of "Recording the Beatles", but they did more printings after that. It looks like right now it's out of stock but due for another printing in 2016:

http://www.curvebender.com/recordingthebeatlesdeluxeedition.aspx

I can't say for sure, but I always got the impression that the various reprints of Lewisohn's "Recording Sessions" were simple reprints rather than updates. I think EMI actually owned the book, as they commissioned Lewisohn.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: HeyJude on October 27, 2015, 06:24:52 AM
If so, maybe he revised the entries which he'd later admitted weren't based of actual fact but his deductions.

I never got the impression Lewisohn was trying to mislead about the nature of his listening sessions. I dunno, maybe he contends in "Recording Sessions" that he listened to every note of every tape. But I remember relatively contemporary interviews where Lewisohn was open about the narrow window of time EMI gave him to do the book, and how there was no time to listen to every second of every tape. Considering his interest in the group, I also got the impression that, much like any Beatles fan, he certainly would have loved to spend even more time listening to every inch of each tape.

Either way, while "Recording Sessions" could certainly do well with an update, even just based on what they turned up in the 90s "Anthology" era, every one of Lewisohn's books are indispensable, and his "Tune In" first volume is really unparalleled in numerous ways. A biography half as detailed as that on the Beach Boys would still be the best we've ever seen. The only criticism I have of Lewisohn's first biography volume is that the title is kind of lame, and the UK cover art kind of ugly.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: c-man on October 27, 2015, 07:08:03 AM
If so, maybe he revised the entries which he'd later admitted weren't based of actual fact but his deductions.
...But I remember relatively contemporary interviews where Lewisohn was open about the narrow window of time EMI gave him to do the book, and how there was no time to listen to every second of every tape. Considering his interest in the group, I also got the impression that, much like any Beatles fan, he certainly would have loved to spend even more time listening to every inch of each tape...

Believe me, I know exactly how he feels!  :)


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: c-man on October 27, 2015, 07:08:48 AM
I'm excited in some sense about this release. I've always enjoyed the "stripped" 'Party' recordings for what they are. There's a question I've had for awhile about those sessions that now seems as good a time as any to ask. Do we know who played what, in terms of instruments, for those sessions. I assume Al plays some, if not all, bass, and of course Carl on guitar. Perhaps this has been well documented elsewhere on the board, but I can't seem to find it. Did Brian, for instance, play any bass on 'Party'? Who played bongos? I can picture Mike running around with a tambourine. Can someone more knowing than I compile a list of "who played what" on the 'Party' album?

The sessionography will answer all these questions. :)


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Douchepool on October 27, 2015, 07:11:12 AM
Wasn't it Brian on electric bass, Carl and Al on acoustic guitars, Bruce on piano, and Hal Blaine on percussion?


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: 37!ws on October 27, 2015, 07:18:39 AM
And I'm pretty sure Billy Hinsche on harmonica.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: c-man on October 27, 2015, 07:52:09 AM
Wasn't it Brian on electric bass, Carl and Al on acoustic guitars, Bruce on piano, and Hal Blaine on percussion?

There was actually some fluid-ity with the bass and percussion chores. What little piano there was is Brian. The one constant was the acoustic guitars of Carl and Al - although they rotated 6- and 12-string between themselves. I heard no evidence on tape of the 4-string tenor acoustic guitar Al is seen playing in the staged party promo shot, and which may be alluded to in the Teen Set article (where a guitar string breaks and the instrument in question is then referred to as now having 3 strings).


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Steve Latshaw on October 27, 2015, 08:09:12 AM
<<And I'm pretty sure Billy Hinsche on harmonica.>>

The man himself confirmed that to me... on Mountain of Love. 

And flash forward 35 years to 2000... the Carl Wilson foundation Beach Party... at the singalong during Mountain of Love, Billy surprised everybody (and Jeff Foskett) when he whipped out his harmonica and reprised that solo.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Cool Cool Water on October 27, 2015, 08:22:43 AM
And flash forward 35 years to 2000... the Carl Wilson foundation Beach Party... at the singalong during Mountain of Love, Billy surprised everybody (and Jeff Foskett) when he whipped out his harmonica and reprised that solo.

Wonderful stuff how he reprised the solo all those years later. I didn't know Billy added harmonica on MOL via the album---cool stuff.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: c-man on October 27, 2015, 08:39:22 AM
And flash forward 35 years to 2000... the Carl Wilson foundation Beach Party... at the singalong during Mountain of Love, Billy surprised everybody (and Jeff Foskett) when he whipped out his harmonica and reprised that solo.

Wonderful stuff how he reprised the solo all those years later. I didn't know Billy added harmonica on MOL via the album---cool stuff.

It might be worth noting here that Billy's MOL harmonica solo was performed on the initial recording - meaning, it was not overdubbed at the later "party sounds" session as has sometimes been reported. So, happily, it's present on this release!  :)


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Rocky on October 30, 2015, 02:55:24 AM
Quote
Wasn't it Brian on electric bass, Carl and Al on acoustic guitars, Bruce on piano, and Hal Blaine on percussion?

I'm very curious to know if it was indeed Brian on bass throughout the album.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 30, 2015, 06:07:50 AM
Before the "Calypso" version of "Little Deuce Coupe" doesn't someone (Al?) say "I've got it -- Bruce do your bass like this: (sings) 'dum, da da, dum, da da...'"?

Lee


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: guitarfool2002 on October 30, 2015, 06:29:27 AM
Bruce playing bass is mentioned several times in the studio, I think they also call it the "phantom bass" or something, and I also got the impression "Ron" as in Ron Swallow played some bass too because other conversations seem to be directed at him regarding the bass playing. But he's credited with tambourine and percussion too. A good amount of instrument swapping seems to have taken place as mentioned.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: 37!ws on October 30, 2015, 08:26:07 AM
Wonderful stuff how he reprised the solo all those years later. I didn't know Billy added harmonica on MOL via the album---cool stuff.

A little Easter egg I noticed a few years ago: listen to the background vocals. During the verses: "Whoa-oh Mikey!" During the harmonica solo: "Whoa-oh Billy!"


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 30, 2015, 09:09:51 AM
Wonderful stuff how he reprised the solo all those years later. I didn't know Billy added harmonica on MOL via the album---cool stuff.

A little Easter egg I noticed a few years ago: listen to the background vocals. During the verses: "Whoa-oh Mikey!" During the harmonica solo: "Whoa-oh Billy!"

Exactly!  That's why I suspected (many years ago) that it was Billy Hinsche playing the harmonica, and the first time I met him in person I asked him and he confirmed it.

Lee


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Steve Latshaw on October 30, 2015, 09:22:48 AM
I heard the Sea of Tunes release of some of these sessions a few years back and isn't there a medley section where, at one point, the BB (I think Brian) sings a brief snippet of the DD&B hit "I'm A Fool?"


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: c-man on October 30, 2015, 09:34:59 PM
Wonderful stuff how he reprised the solo all those years later. I didn't know Billy added harmonica on MOL via the album---cool stuff.

A little Easter egg I noticed a few years ago: listen to the background vocals. During the verses: "Whoa-oh Mikey!" During the harmonica solo: "Whoa-oh Billy!"

Exactly!  That's why I suspected (many years ago) that it was Billy Hinsche playing the harmonica, and the first time I met him in person I asked him and he confirmed it.

Lee

First time I heard (or read) of it was when Billy mentioned it in a 1986 BBFUN interview.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: mojoman3061 on November 03, 2015, 01:54:58 PM
On a closely related note: does anyone know if the 2013 edition of Lewisohn's "The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions" is updated from the '88 edition?
I have the '88 edition and The Complete Beatles Chronicle ('92), which is a condensed version of Recording Sessions plus live, radio, and TV appearances.  He notes revised info on recording sessions.

I haven't seen the 2013 edition.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: “Big Daddy” on November 03, 2015, 03:30:22 PM
Looks like Amazon will sell an “exclusive” package with a 12” by 12” lithograph: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B017IF3SVW/. Very few details at all on that page but one can only assume that it’s for this release.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Custom Machine on November 03, 2015, 06:12:44 PM
Looks like Amazon will sell an “exclusive” package with a 12” by 12” lithograph: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B017IF3SVW/. Very few details at all on that page but one can only assume that it’s for this release.

An interesting find. Assuming it's the 2 CD Unplugged Party album, at current prices (14.88 for the regular issue, as opposed to 29.98 for the Amazon Exclusive) you'd be paying $15 for the 12" x 12" lithograph. But this item has a release date one week prior to the standard issue CD release date.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: “Big Daddy” on November 10, 2015, 09:39:02 PM
Looks like Amazon will sell an “exclusive” package with a 12” by 12” lithograph: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B017IF3SVW/. Very few details at all on that page but one can only assume that it’s for this release.

An interesting find. Assuming it's the 2 CD Unplugged Party album, at current prices (14.88 for the regular issue, as opposed to 29.98 for the Amazon Exclusive) you'd be paying $15 for the 12" x 12" lithograph. But this item has a release date one week prior to the standard issue CD release date.


There’s now a picture up for the Amazon-exclusive package with the lithograph. Still says it’s coming out the 13th.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/P/B017IF3SVW.16._SCRMZZZZZZ_V199932697_.jpg


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: puni puni on November 17, 2015, 03:17:54 PM
It looks like the cover was tweaked a bit for color correction and now it's slightly easier on the eyes.

(http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_500/MI0003/976/MI0003976431.jpg)
New

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61aunrljvPL.jpg)
Original


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: MikestheGreatest!! on November 17, 2015, 04:01:35 PM
That is one fine looking album cover!!  Seriously.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Marty Castillo on November 17, 2015, 05:41:49 PM
That actually makes a huge difference.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Radfahrer on November 18, 2015, 03:03:05 AM
In Germany the release was postponed to December 4.  :-\


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on November 18, 2015, 02:32:05 PM
Britain too, according to Amazon.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Cool Cool Water on November 19, 2015, 03:41:30 AM
Postponed to the 4th Dec here in the UK.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: The Shift on November 19, 2015, 05:22:53 AM
Here in the UK it's postponed until December 4.

;)


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Smilin Ed H on November 19, 2015, 05:28:39 AM
Yeah, here in the UK it's postponed until December 4th...


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Don Malcolm on November 19, 2015, 10:04:01 AM
Dennis's birthday!!  :3d


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Bicyclerider on November 19, 2015, 12:22:53 PM
And mine!


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: bryand on November 19, 2015, 05:38:08 PM
Here are samples of you are into that sort of thing:

http://www.e-onkyo.com/sp/album/uml00602547601841/


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Awesoman on November 19, 2015, 08:50:01 PM
Was notified that mine will be in my hands tomorrow.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on November 20, 2015, 12:15:22 PM
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/hear-beach-boys-stripped-down-bob-dylan-and-beatles-covers-20151120

A little article and two tracks steaming.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: 37!ws on November 20, 2015, 12:21:27 PM
Listening to it right now...it sounds VERY analog and very Dexterized, quite frankly....disclosure, though: I'm listening via my work PC and VLC might not be giving me a fair representation.

Other than the weird sound quality, it's a fascinating listen...I love that you can hear just about everything everybody's saying during the un-dubbed Party! album.

SPOILER ALERT: No "KILL!!!! KILL!!!!" / " CAROL!!!!!! CAROL!!!!" on "Devoted To You," at least the first occurence of the song. :)


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on November 20, 2015, 12:39:29 PM
Worth noting that iTunes is selling it for about $10 more than anyone else. 


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Ian on November 20, 2015, 01:10:38 PM
Got mine today and was psyched to see my name thanked in the credits-thanks Craig and Alan!  About to listen to it now....


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Custom Machine on November 20, 2015, 02:04:11 PM
And the booklet includes a very informative Beach Boys Party Sessions article by Craig Slowinski.

So who's in the center photo in addition to Al & Lynda, Carl, Mike, Bruce, Dennis & Carole, and Brian & Marilyn?

Are there other occasions when Brian was photographed in that rather wild (for 1965) shirt? Style wise it seems at least a year ahead of its time.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Bill Tobelman on November 20, 2015, 04:45:18 PM
The late Bob Hanes absolutely loved the PARTY! album.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: c-man on November 20, 2015, 04:47:58 PM
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/hear-beach-boys-stripped-down-bob-dylan-and-beatles-covers-20151120

A little article and two tracks steaming.

"Canned audience cheering"? "ALL acoustic instruments"? Once again, RS doesn't QUITE get it right.
Oh well, at least the exposure is great!


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Bean Bag on November 20, 2015, 07:03:32 PM
Playing mine right now!  Sounds really good!!! 

What a wonderful surprise this is turning out to be.

  :happydance


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: PS on November 20, 2015, 08:11:48 PM
Sounds excellent - what fun. Ruby Baby especially smokes!


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: wantsomecorn on November 20, 2015, 08:19:25 PM
Will the liner notes be posted online, like for last year's releases?


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: the professor on November 20, 2015, 08:52:57 PM
I do not care about the liner notes or price. Tell me if this record is any darn good.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Alan Smith on November 20, 2015, 09:02:40 PM
I do not care about the liner notes or price. Tell me if this record is any darn good.
The professor should just buy it and judge things for himself.

And then tell Alan Smith if it's the cat's meow or otherwise.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Bean Bag on November 20, 2015, 09:26:47 PM
I do not care about the liner notes or price. Tell me if this record is any darn good.

Yeeaaaah it is !!!!

I've sat and listened to the whole thing (almost finished with the second disc).  This will make you retire the Party! album forever.  This is the document of these sessions.  They're loose, goofy, but more interesting than the release, since it focuses on documenting the Boys in the studio cutting this fun little album.  And it was always THE WAY they cut the album that was more interesting than the actual album.  Although, it's contents are indeed fun and pretty at times.

What I'm noticing and loving is just how off-the-cuff it is.  Brian's just like "whatever" and chimes in only once in awhile, saying things like "don't worry about it!  it's f$%^g a party... mistakes are fine.  Relax!"  But what is really interesting is how much Carl Wilson runs the show.  (At least I think it's Carl -- I'm pretty sure I know their voices like my own family's!)  But it's a great study on the band and their personalities.

I don't know if that's a revelation to our more scholarly board members, but it is to me.  It's 1965... and Carl Wilson is the project manager on the scene.  He's producing the album.  Brian's the architect sitting back with the vision... but it's Carl's gig.  He's setting the pace, and totally comfortable telling everybody what to do.  Fun stuff!!

I don't have the SOT of this... so I don't know if this would be necessary to folks who do, though I find the sound sublime!  But I'm loving this release.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: the professor on November 20, 2015, 11:04:01 PM
The professor has ordered a copy on Amazon which should be here in a day or two. As usual I have to thank my dear friend bean bag who always shows so much rapid and immediate support of the professor. I feel like I am casting a bean bag light out into the sky like they do in Batman because he always shows up just when he is most needed. I am very interested in hearing this for the reasons that the bean bag lays out. It sounds so exuberant and like so much fun and I will record my reaction here once I have received it and listen to it. Thank you great and wise bean bag.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Shane on November 21, 2015, 12:07:15 AM
Question:  Does the LP version of this album feature the contents of both discs, or just the "album minus the overdubs" disc?


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Marty Castillo on November 21, 2015, 10:06:59 AM
Visited Best Buy, Target and Barnes & Noble this morning. Only Barnes & Noble had it in stock for $25. Debating ordering it from Amazon.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Jim V. on November 21, 2015, 10:47:28 AM
Hey, does anybody know which version of "Ruby Baby" on the new release is the one that was available on the '90s Good Vibrations box set?


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: 37!ws on November 21, 2015, 04:55:23 PM
Hey, does anybody know which version of "Ruby Baby" on the new release is the one that was available on the '90s Good Vibrations box set?

The second version that appears in the set.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Wirestone on November 21, 2015, 05:18:55 PM
Visited Best Buy, Target and Barnes & Noble this morning. Only Barnes & Noble had it in stock for $25. Debating ordering it from Amazon.

Quite a few at my BB.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: c-man on November 21, 2015, 08:59:20 PM
Hey, does anybody know which version of "Ruby Baby" on the new release is the one that was available on the '90s Good Vibrations box set?

The second version that appears in the set.

With Dennis on harmonica!


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: the professor on November 21, 2015, 09:03:45 PM
I am surprised that this album has not appeared on the Rhapsody music service. All previous beach boy new releases have appeared on that Service, but at this album has not. In any case, I have ordered and purchased one through amazon.com which is arriving on Tuesday, so I will have some commentary then. Does anyone else use Rhapsody?


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Cool Cool Water on November 22, 2015, 08:58:35 AM
Question:  Does the LP version of this album feature the contents of both discs, or just the "album minus the overdubs" disc?

The vinyl LP edition of the ‘Party!’ album’s original 12 tracks, remixed and remastered in the ‘Uncovered and Unplugged’ style.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Douchepool on November 22, 2015, 09:15:53 AM
Mods, please add an entry for this in the reviews section.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Marty Castillo on November 22, 2015, 11:10:57 AM
Visited Best Buy, Target and Barnes & Noble this morning. Only Barnes & Noble had it in stock for $25. Debating ordering it from Amazon.

Quite a few at my BB.

Went to the other side of town to different Best Buy, Target and Barnes & Noble--nothing! Either they didn't order any copies or they sold out the few they did have. I'm guessing they never stocked it. I guess it will have to be Amazon.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: GhostyTMRS on November 22, 2015, 05:00:56 PM
This is an essential Beach Boys purchase for the hardcore fan. I was looking forward to this but had no idea it would turn out to be a revelation (at least for me):

1. As others have mentioned, Carl is running the show here, putting the group through their paces and barking out orders about how the album should sound. It's fun to hear Carl (along with Brian) in charge. I'm NOT in favor of revising any producer credits on Beach Boys albums, but if ever there was a candidate for a "produced by Brian and Carl Wilson" credit this would be it.   

2. The original Party album gave us a glimpse of what kind of music the Beach Boys would jam to if they were asked to jam. This collection gives us much more of that (obviously) but the diaologue reveals more of their individual personalities and thoughts about making the album, along with some off-color banter that almost warrant a Parental Advisory sticker. 

3. Musicianship - The band cook on these numbers, especially Carl who seems capable of playing anything and everything like a BOSS! Sadly, I've seen some reviews or discussions about this album that are beset with idiots in the comments section who still insist the Beach Boys never played a note in the studio. We've gone from being happy to see the Wrecking Crew get acknowledged for their contributions after being ignored for so long to "rock fans" giving them credit for everything the Beach Boys ever did. I'd like to think that a set like this will prove them wrong, but we live in an age where a lie spreads like wildfire on the internet because people want it to be true rather than it actually being true. Suckers!


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Micha on November 22, 2015, 10:29:17 PM
Quote
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/hear-beach-boys-stripped-down-bob-dylan-and-beatles-covers-20151120

On that page, Brian gives the credit of the idea for the Party! album to Mike. I thought it was Brian's idea - did I miss something?


It looks like the cover was tweaked a bit for color correction and now it's slightly easier on the eyes.

That's probably not a color revision but an artifact caused by different file formats. You couldn't print the "old" color with a regular CMYK printing setup, but that color is (obviously) possible for an RGB monitor.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: 37!ws on November 23, 2015, 08:47:07 AM
OK, just a few comments:

- I listened to the entire set on an actual, proper CD player and it sounded absolutely great, so obviously Windows was screwing with the sound when I was listening to it on my work PC. (Why on EARTH was it adding reverb?!?!?! Even when changing the settings?!) So I withdraw my "Dexterization" comment from Friday.

- Most of this stuff will be familiar to people who listened to the Sea of Tunes sets. But there are a few surprises here and there. But 1) I remember when "Dutch imports" were all the rage, there was a gentleman's agreement that if the stuff that was on said imports was ever legitimately released, those who partook in consuming those CDs would do the right thing and buy the material legitimately, and 2) even if you're going to reneg on that agreement, just hearing the Party! album sans party sounds is a great listen and very revealing in its own way.

- I love Al's credits in the liner notes.

- What puzzles me is that several (if not all) of the tracks that are on the remixed Party! album portion of disc 1 appear *again* later on during the session highlights. Kinda like how Leggo My Ego had a lot of repeated tracks. (At least from what I'm told. Not that I would ever have participated in such despicable illegal activity...*cough*...)

- I remember it was "common knowledge" that the Beach Boys recorded "Sloop John B" during the Party! sessions, and recently that "fact" has come into dispute. AFAIK, there's no documentation to verify it, and I'm sure if they DID record SJB during those sessions, it would have been on this compilation for sure. HOWEVER...I think what got buzz going around about that is that at one point when they're goofing around on "Ticket To Ride," someone with a 12-string is playing some licks that are pretty identical to the guitar riff in the released "Sloop John B" -- BUT somenoe's singing "My baby don't care" against it...so: coincidence, more likely.

- Definitely worth the price of admission: hearing the conversations going on between songs. They're so...everyday....that they're fascinating!


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Douchepool on November 23, 2015, 08:50:23 AM
I just received my copy in the mail yesterday. There isn't much that wasn't on the SOTs, of course, but what is there benefits amazingly from a proper master and mix. The few new bits are worth the price of admission. I liked that there was just enough fooling around left in the release.

Dare I say it...but this is gonna be hard to beat if another copyright extension set comes out.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: 37!ws on November 23, 2015, 09:10:52 AM
I would hope that another one will be on its way though...given the goldmine of material that makes up the first two albums they put out in '65!


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Bicyclerider on November 23, 2015, 09:14:00 AM
OK, just a few comments:

- I listened to the entire set on an actual, proper CD player and it sounded absolutely great, so obviously Windows was screwing with the sound when I was listening to it on my work PC. (Why on EARTH was it adding reverb?!?!?! Even when changing the settings?!) So I withdraw my "Dexterization" comment from Friday.

- Most of this stuff will be familiar to people who listened to the Sea of Tunes sets. But there are a few surprises here and there. But 1) I remember when "Dutch imports" were all the rage, there was a gentleman's agreement that if the stuff that was on said imports was ever legitimately released, those who partook in consuming those CDs would do the right thing and buy the material legitimately, and 2) even if you're going to reneg on that agreement, just hearing the Party! album sans party sounds is a great listen and very revealing in its own way.


- Definitely worth the price of admission: hearing the conversations going on between songs. They're so...everyday....that they're fascinating!

So the stereo mix on Sea of Tunes was with the party sounds, right? 


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Douchepool on November 23, 2015, 09:15:12 AM
I would hope that another one will be on its way though...given the goldmine of material that makes up the first two albums they put out in '65!

Don't forget the Chicago shows!


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: GoodVibrations33 on November 23, 2015, 09:47:15 AM
I would hope that another one will be on its way though...given the goldmine of material that makes up the first two albums they put out in '65!

Don't forget the Chicago shows!

Yes, the Chicago shows! Please!!!


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: elnombre on November 23, 2015, 12:21:42 PM
It looks like the cover was tweaked a bit for color correction and now it's slightly easier on the eyes.

(http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_500/MI0003/976/MI0003976431.jpg)
New

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61aunrljvPL.jpg)
Original

Much better.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Custom Machine on November 24, 2015, 12:17:45 AM

It looks like the cover was tweaked a bit for color correction and now it's slightly easier on the eyes.

That's probably not a color revision but an artifact caused by different file formats. You couldn't print the "old" color with a regular CMYK printing setup, but that color is (obviously) possible for an RGB monitor.


I agree, Micha. The original pre-release cover rendition has an intense look achievable from backlighting on a monitor, but not with standard printing on standard paper. (Also, the B&W photos have a bluish cast on the original pre-release cover rendition that is absent on the released CD booklet.





Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Please delete my account on November 24, 2015, 02:10:19 AM
Not having the boots, I had never heard them do "Satisfaction" or "Blowing In The Wind" before. Enjoyable. (Listened on Apple Music, of which I'm on my free trial at the moment)


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Freddie French-Pounce on November 26, 2015, 03:29:43 AM
Is there anywhere in the UK that has this for sale at the moment. Nowhere has it :'(


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Fire Wind on November 26, 2015, 06:16:46 AM
Ordered this, plus the Carl live thing from Amazon to be sent to mother's house.  She can wrap them.  I like getting BB stuff under the tree at Christmas.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: the professor on November 26, 2015, 08:21:10 AM
http://bestclassicbands.com/beach-boys-party-fun-time-or-waste-of-time-11-25-15/

The point of this review: the whole affair is a crap waste of time that Mike, an idiot forced Brian, a genius, to do.

I don't hear that at all.

Thoughts?


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: The Shift on November 26, 2015, 10:20:22 AM
Is there anywhere in the UK that has this for sale at the moment. Nowhere has it :'(

In Germany the release was postponed to December 4.  :-\

Britain too, according to Amazon.

Postponed to the 4th Dec here in the UK.

Here in the UK it's postponed until December 4.

;)

Yeah, here in the UK it's postponed until December 4th...

:D


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: c-man on November 26, 2015, 10:27:10 AM
http://bestclassicbands.com/beach-boys-party-fun-time-or-waste-of-time-11-25-15/

The point of this review: the whole affair is a crap waste of time that Mike, an idiot forced Brian, a genius, to do.

I don't hear that at all.

Thoughts?

Sounds like an idiot reviewer.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: the professor on November 26, 2015, 11:48:46 AM
Yes, I did not want to be unkind, but I agree that the reviewer is an idiot. I didn't want to say that in case it was one of our colleagues on this discussion board, but it's a very stupid reaction and completely unfounded. As I listen to this exuberant and wonderful production, I see and feel the Beach Boys having so much fun together. It's as simple as that as Alan states clearly in his liner notes.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Jim V. on November 27, 2015, 08:36:45 AM
Hey, does anybody know which version of "Ruby Baby" on the new release is the one that was available on the '90s Good Vibrations box set?

The second version that appears in the set.

I know this is a somewhat super specific question, but is it the same mix as far as you can tell? If so, then that would basically replace the box set version then for me.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: KDS on November 27, 2015, 08:46:37 AM
http://bestclassicbands.com/beach-boys-party-fun-time-or-waste-of-time-11-25-15/

The point of this review: the whole affair is a crap waste of time that Mike, an idiot forced Brian, a genius, to do.

I don't hear that at all.

Thoughts?

To me, this didn't read so much like a review of the actual product, but the writer putting in his two cents about how the original Party album is a total waste of time, especially after the release of Pet Sounds. 


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Cool Cool Water on November 27, 2015, 08:59:31 AM
Is there anywhere in the UK that has this for sale at the moment. Nowhere has it :'(

CD and vinyl not out in the UK until December.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: GhostyTMRS on November 27, 2015, 12:38:12 PM
http://bestclassicbands.com/beach-boys-party-fun-time-or-waste-of-time-11-25-15/

The point of this review: the whole affair is a crap waste of time that Mike, an idiot forced Brian, a genius, to do.

I don't hear that at all.

Thoughts?

Sounds like an idiot reviewer.

It also sounds like someone who needs to do some research before vomiting out his uninformed opinion. If anybody is leading the sessions, it's Carl. Anyone with ears can hear that.

Brian took what was supposed to be a stopgap measure to satisfy Capitol and turned it into an outright brilliant concept. If you want to know who these guys were, what music they liked and just how GOOD Carl and Al were on guitar you can't beat this release. To write it off with half-baked fantasies, like the "author" of this online article has, is to insult Brian's genius.   


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: the professor on December 02, 2015, 08:48:55 AM
http://www.popmatters.com/review/beach-boys-beach-boys-party-uncovered-and-unplugged/

Real and better review by a professor (not I).


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Emily on December 02, 2015, 08:54:16 AM

What I'm noticing and loving is just how off-the-cuff it is.  Brian's just like "whatever" and chimes in only once in awhile, saying things like "don't worry about it!  it's f$%^g a party... mistakes are fine.  Relax!"  But what is really interesting is how much Carl Wilson runs the show.  (At least I think it's Carl -- I'm pretty sure I know their voices like my own family's!)  But it's a great study on the band and their personalities.

I don't know if that's a revelation to our more scholarly board members, but it is to me.  It's 1965... and Carl Wilson is the project manager on the scene.  He's producing the album.  Brian's the architect sitting back with the vision... but it's Carl's gig.  He's setting the pace, and totally comfortable telling everybody what to do.  Fun stuff!!
I agree. The leadership of Carl, at this early date, is revelatory. And Brian's relaxedness (a word? I'm sure not. Oh well.)


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Micha on December 02, 2015, 09:24:43 AM
http://www.popmatters.com/review/beach-boys-beach-boys-party-uncovered-and-unplugged/

Real and better review by a professor (not I).

"But the album became a hit, in large part due to the hit single “Barbara Ann”, which was not even originally slated to be part of the set"

That's a story I don't know yet. Anybody here who can tell me it?


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: AndrewHickey on December 02, 2015, 09:27:32 AM
http://www.popmatters.com/review/beach-boys-beach-boys-party-uncovered-and-unplugged/

Real and better review by a professor (not I).

"But the album became a hit, in large part due to the hit single “Barbara Ann”, which was not even originally slated to be part of the set"

That's a story I don't know yet. Anybody here who can tell me it?

They just mean that the song wasn't planned -- that Dean turned up to the session, they asked him what he wanted to sing, and he suggested that.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 02, 2015, 11:52:49 AM
"But the album became a hit, in large part due to the hit single “Barbara Ann”, which was not even originally slated to be part of the set"

Complete nonsense, of course, as a cursory glance at the Billboard chart figures proves beyond any reasonable doubt.

Party ! was released November 8th 1965 (give or take), charted the 27th of the same month at #65 and peaked at #6 on January first 1966.

"Barbara-f******-Ann" was released December 20th, charted at #81 the same week the parent album peaked and itself peaked at #2 the chart of January 29th 1966.

While the single was climbing the charts, the album was steadily falling. Hence, nonsense. Party ! was a huge hit before the single was released.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: c-man on December 02, 2015, 07:44:55 PM

What I'm noticing and loving is just how off-the-cuff it is.  Brian's just like "whatever" and chimes in only once in awhile, saying things like "don't worry about it!  it's f$%^g a party... mistakes are fine.  Relax!"  But what is really interesting is how much Carl Wilson runs the show.  (At least I think it's Carl -- I'm pretty sure I know their voices like my own family's!)  But it's a great study on the band and their personalities.

I don't know if that's a revelation to our more scholarly board members, but it is to me.  It's 1965... and Carl Wilson is the project manager on the scene.  He's producing the album.  Brian's the architect sitting back with the vision... but it's Carl's gig.  He's setting the pace, and totally comfortable telling everybody what to do.  Fun stuff!!
I agree. The leadership of Carl, at this early date, is revelatory. And Brian's relaxedness (a word? I'm sure not. Oh well.)

By this time, Carl had been leader of the onstage band for about 9 months, give or take. Seems natural that he would be calling the shots with the same group of guys in a studio environment, especially since they were recording a bunch of covers in a "non-produced" fashion.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Emily on December 02, 2015, 07:51:44 PM

What I'm noticing and loving is just how off-the-cuff it is.  Brian's just like "whatever" and chimes in only once in awhile, saying things like "don't worry about it!  it's f$%^g a party... mistakes are fine.  Relax!"  But what is really interesting is how much Carl Wilson runs the show.  (At least I think it's Carl -- I'm pretty sure I know their voices like my own family's!)  But it's a great study on the band and their personalities.

I don't know if that's a revelation to our more scholarly board members, but it is to me.  It's 1965... and Carl Wilson is the project manager on the scene.  He's producing the album.  Brian's the architect sitting back with the vision... but it's Carl's gig.  He's setting the pace, and totally comfortable telling everybody what to do.  Fun stuff!!
I agree. The leadership of Carl, at this early date, is revelatory. And Brian's relaxedness (a word? I'm sure not. Oh well.)

By this time, Carl had been leader of the onstage band for about 9 months, give or take. Seems natural that he would be calling the shots with the same group of guys in a studio environment, especially since they were recording a bunch of covers in a "non-produced" fashion.
It does make sense, of course, and I should have been clear that it was a revelation to me. I wasn't around to see a live show at that time and all the clips I've seen he seems so quiet... I'd read that he was band leader at that time but it didn't click that that very young and quiet man had such personal authority. I feel like I've seen a whole new dimension to pre-Pet Sounds Carl that I'd never picked up on before.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Jim V. on December 02, 2015, 08:53:47 PM
So I wasn't sure I wanted to post this, but has anybody listened to the goofy take of "The Diary" on the new set? Anyways, it kinda sounds like Bruce is saying, "when it's late at night, make sure that she's white."

Now personally I think that it was just a stupid rhyme made up off the top of his head and not really something meant to be racist. But the fact that it got released is somewhat disconcerting to me. And if I were to guess that any member would say such a thing, I'd guess Bruce.

But whatever. Doesn't seem like the kinda image The Beach Boys would wanna push forward. Kinda surprised this one made it on the set.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Eric Aniversario on December 02, 2015, 10:48:47 PM
So I wasn't sure I wanted to post this, but has anybody listened to the goofy take of "The Diary" on the new set? Anyways, it kinda sounds like Bruce is saying, "when it's late at night, make sure that she's white."

Now personally I think that it was just a stupid rhyme made up off the top of his head and not really something meant to be racist. But the fact that it got released is somewhat disconcerting to me. And if I were to guess that any member would say such a thing, I'd guess Bruce.

But whatever. Doesn't seem like the kinda image The Beach Boys would wanna push forward. Kinda surprised this one made it on the set.

I heard that too, and was surprised.  I think that should have been edited out for Bruce's sake.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Micha on December 03, 2015, 01:38:49 AM
http://www.popmatters.com/review/beach-boys-beach-boys-party-uncovered-and-unplugged/

Real and better review by a professor (not I).

"But the album became a hit, in large part due to the hit single “Barbara Ann”, which was not even originally slated to be part of the set"

That's a story I don't know yet. Anybody here who can tell me it?

They just mean that the song wasn't planned -- that Dean turned up to the session, they asked him what he wanted to sing, and he suggested that.

Oh yes, that makes sense - it could be that this was what the writer had in mind. I wonder if AGD will ever forgive Dean that he suggested Barbara "F." Ann... :-D

I just thought - "Pet Sounds" is great art, and "Party" is great fun. Both of which are The Beach Boys.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: mojoman3061 on December 03, 2015, 09:58:37 AM
Carl's running the show as much as he did in 1965 is especially revelatory when we consider that he only turned 19 in December of that year.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 03, 2015, 10:10:21 AM
I wonder if AGD will ever forgive Dean that he suggested Barbara "F." Ann... :-D

Interestingly, there's only ever been one person in the whole extended BB cosmos who was less than reasonable (considerably less than reasonable) when I tried to arrange a meeting...


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Komera on December 04, 2015, 07:39:51 AM
http://www.popmatters.com/review/beach-boys-beach-boys-party-uncovered-and-unplugged/

Real and better review by a professor (not I).

"But the album became a hit, in large part due to the hit single “Barbara Ann”, which was not even originally slated to be part of the set"

That's a story I don't know yet. Anybody here who can tell me it?

They just mean that the song wasn't planned -- that Dean turned up to the session, they asked him what he wanted to sing, and he suggested that.

Oh yes, that makes sense - it could be that this was what the writer had in mind. I wonder if AGD will ever forgive Dean that he suggested Barbara "F." Ann... :-D

I just thought - "Pet Sounds" is great art, and "Party" is great fun. Both of which are The Beach Boys.

Begging your pardon, but there are no "F."'s in my aunt's name.   :lol :lol :lol

Yes, I do have an aunt named Barbara Annette.   I think grammy and grampy had the song in mind when they named her.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Jim V. on December 04, 2015, 11:12:31 AM
I wonder if AGD will ever forgive Dean that he suggested Barbara "F." Ann... :-D

Interestingly, there's only ever been one person in the whole extended BB cosmos who was less than reasonable (considerably less than reasonable) when I tried to arrange a meeting...

If I'm reading this right, it seems that Dean Torrence was a bit of a dick to you, eh?

If so, no big deal. Besides some nice stuff on Save for a Rainy Day he really isn't responsible for anything musically that really matters in any way. Jan Berry obviously is the one (along with a few others, including Brian) who made Jan & Dean the popular duo that they are.

Seems like a pretty cantankerous douche honestly.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Freddie French-Pounce on December 04, 2015, 11:24:34 AM
So it came out today in the UK... On the internet it seems. No HMV I've been to has any sign of it.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Smilin Ed H on December 04, 2015, 12:27:18 PM
Mine arrived from Amazon (UK) today.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Mooger Fooger on December 04, 2015, 03:01:13 PM
Quick review. The stripped down PartY! is very nice. Without the party fx, it does have an unplugged feel.

The session tapes and accompanying booklet (with outstanding notes by Craig) sound and read fantastic.

This set is hands down a "must have".  10/10


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: GuyO on December 05, 2015, 07:54:04 AM
Still not available in shops in Holland :-(


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: mikeddonn on December 05, 2015, 09:12:47 AM
Mines arrived today (UK).  Amazon refunded postage as it was delayed.  That was nice of them considering the delay wasn't their fault! I have the Sea of Tunes but am still looking forward to this.  So many Beach Boys goodies this Christmas with AP releases, Carl Wilson CDs and various books.  ;D


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Theydon Bois on December 29, 2015, 03:10:23 PM
My favourite aspect is the fact that all of the dialogue tracks are listed on the sleeve as "dialogue" in the version of English that all good British citizens (except Andrew Doe for some no doubt important reason) use.  Please tell me that this is how it's printed worldwide (it certainly seems to appear that way on the sleeve graphic shown on Amazon.com) and that it's not just a regional variation, for it has made me quite happy in my foolish UK-centric way.

Mind you, the back cover does also say "One Kiss Lead To Another" and is perhaps over-insistent regarding Mike's vocals on "Alley Oop", so maybe it will not be winning any awards for Proofreading Pedantry.

As for the musical contents, I like the stripped-down album a lot, support the release of archival projects, and am glad this exists, but I'm going to confess that I haven't enjoyed the session material as much as I'd hoped to.  Burn me at the stake for saying it if you must, but I did find that I tired of the Boys' company after a while, especially when they were mucking about.  Possibly a sense of humour mismatch.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Emily on December 29, 2015, 03:17:47 PM
My favourite aspect is the fact that all of the dialogue tracks are listed on the sleeve as "dialogue" in the version of English that all good British citizens (except Andrew Doe for some no doubt important reason) use.  Please tell me that this is how it's printed worldwide (it certainly seems to appear that way on the sleeve graphic shown on Amazon.com) and that it's not just a regional variation, for it has made me quite happy in my foolish UK-centric way.

Mind you, the back cover does also say "One Kiss Lead To Another" and is perhaps over-insistent regarding Mike's vocals on "Alley Oop", so maybe it will not be winning any awards for Proofreading Pedantry.

As for the musical contents, I like the stripped-down album a lot, support the release of archival projects, and am glad this exists, but I'm going to confess that I haven't enjoyed the session material as much as I'd hoped to.  Burn me at the stake for saying it if you must, but I did find that I tired of the Boys' company after a while, especially when they were mucking about.  Possibly a sense of humour mismatch.
I expect I've made the mistake myself, but 'dialogue' is the proper spelling for British and American English, for now. I imagine Americans will use 'dialog' increasingly because of 'catalog' and 'dialog box.'


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Theydon Bois on December 29, 2015, 03:21:46 PM
My favourite aspect is the fact that all of the dialogue tracks are listed on the sleeve as "dialogue" in the version of English that all good British citizens (except Andrew Doe for some no doubt important reason) use.  Please tell me that this is how it's printed worldwide (it certainly seems to appear that way on the sleeve graphic shown on Amazon.com) and that it's not just a regional variation, for it has made me quite happy in my foolish UK-centric way.

Mind you, the back cover does also say "One Kiss Lead To Another" and is perhaps over-insistent regarding Mike's vocals on "Alley Oop", so maybe it will not be winning any awards for Proofreading Pedantry.

As for the musical contents, I like the stripped-down album a lot, support the release of archival projects, and am glad this exists, but I'm going to confess that I haven't enjoyed the session material as much as I'd hoped to.  Burn me at the stake for saying it if you must, but I did find that I tired of the Boys' company after a while, especially when they were mucking about.  Possibly a sense of humour mismatch.
I expect I've made the mistake myself, but 'dialogue' is the proper spelling for British and American English, for now. I imagine Americans will use 'dialog' increasingly because of 'catalog' and 'dialog box.'

Wow, I'd got so used to seeing "dialog" everywhere that I never imagined that.  Certainly if you rip the CDs then all of the "dialogue" tracks get auto-titled as "dialog", so somebody should have a word.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Emily on December 29, 2015, 03:34:55 PM
My favourite aspect is the fact that all of the dialogue tracks are listed on the sleeve as "dialogue" in the version of English that all good British citizens (except Andrew Doe for some no doubt important reason) use.  Please tell me that this is how it's printed worldwide (it certainly seems to appear that way on the sleeve graphic shown on Amazon.com) and that it's not just a regional variation, for it has made me quite happy in my foolish UK-centric way.

Mind you, the back cover does also say "One Kiss Lead To Another" and is perhaps over-insistent regarding Mike's vocals on "Alley Oop", so maybe it will not be winning any awards for Proofreading Pedantry.

As for the musical contents, I like the stripped-down album a lot, support the release of archival projects, and am glad this exists, but I'm going to confess that I haven't enjoyed the session material as much as I'd hoped to.  Burn me at the stake for saying it if you must, but I did find that I tired of the Boys' company after a while, especially when they were mucking about.  Possibly a sense of humour mismatch.
I expect I've made the mistake myself, but 'dialogue' is the proper spelling for British and American English, for now. I imagine Americans will use 'dialog' increasingly because of 'catalog' and 'dialog box.'

Wow, I'd got so used to seeing "dialog" everywhere that I never imagined that.  Certainly if you rip the CDs then all of the "dialogue" tracks get auto-titled as "dialog", so somebody should have a word.
Blame it on Microsoft. They named the 'dialog box' and now anyone who programs anything thinks that's how it's spelled.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Theydon Bois on December 29, 2015, 03:40:42 PM
Blame it on Microsoft.

This is often a fair policy, and provides me with a great excuse for my earlier comments.  On the minus side, I now find that I am substantially less excited by the new Beach Boys CD.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Paul J B on January 06, 2016, 01:35:06 PM
Not having the boots, I had never heard them do "Satisfaction" or "Blowing In The Wind" before. Enjoyable. (Listened on Apple Music, of which I'm on my free trial at the moment)


Had the same response as you. Received this CD for Christmas along with the Love and Mercy soundtrack. Al's Blowing In The Wind was the highlight for me and I really like Satisfaction as well. It's also nice to hear them all having a really good time considering how weird things would soon become.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: filledeplage on January 06, 2016, 04:41:43 PM
Quick review. The stripped down PartY! is very nice. Without the party fx, it does have an unplugged feel.

The session tapes and accompanying booklet (with outstanding notes by Craig) sound and read fantastic.

This set is hands down a "must have".  10/10
Agreed - Just got this a few days ago.  Found it in Best Buy where they, now, apparently have no special Beach Boys divider.  Just a generic "B" in the filing system. 

Apart from that, it was delightful to walk out of a store with a new BB sessions of anything.  Absolutely delightful, in the car, and I have not listened to Party in several decades. 

The acoustic guitars, crisp vocals, and no artistic drama.  Love it and I will play it.   Nice hats off to the Beatles, and fun Hully Gully and Al Jardine with his folky flair.   Fun and unplugged.  A  sweet little treasure.   ;)   


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Bicyclerider on January 06, 2016, 05:27:06 PM
The unplugged Party is excellent, definitely an improvement on the original.  The sessions however add nothing to what has been previously released on Sea of Tunes - however they did squeeze the sessions onto 2 discs rather than 3.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: mojoman3061 on January 19, 2016, 01:51:19 PM
Picked up the 2 CD version at Best Buy the other day.  It is a sweet little treasure, as filledeplage says.

Dennis Wilson played a mean harmonica!  I didn't know that.  Also, Al does a fine job on "Blowin' in the Wind."

There's a color centerspread photo of the Boys and others gathered close together, as if at a party.  I recognize the 6 Beach Boys, Dennis's wife Carol (Carole?), and Marilyn.  That leaves 6 women and one man.  Can anyone identify them?  Someone asked this question several pages back in this thread.  I don't think the guy is Carl Korthof (we only see the left side of his head).


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: branaa09 on January 19, 2016, 03:14:31 PM
I see Ron Swallow with either his girlfriend or wife, Terry Melcher,  that girl next to Al must be his girlfriend and Wife Linda, Carl and his wife Annie Hinsche or could be a different girl. Of course Brian and Marilyn and Dennis and Carol. Looks like Mike's wife is there with him too, Amy?


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Ian on January 19, 2016, 04:34:32 PM
Mike's wife at the time was Suzanne belcher


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: mojoman3061 on January 20, 2016, 08:53:55 AM
Aside from the six Beach Boys (including Bruce), there's only one man in the photo (this is in the centerspread of the CD booklet for the US release).  It doesn't look like Terry.  As for the ladies, I don't see one with Annie Hinsche's coloring.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Ian on January 20, 2016, 11:19:14 AM
Carl met Annie hinsche during The time period  this album was made and got engaged to her in November


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Micha on January 21, 2016, 12:32:18 AM
Mike's wife at the time was Suzanne belcher

She should have married Terry Melcher instead of Mike and take the name Belcher-Melcher.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: KDS on January 21, 2016, 06:49:39 AM
I finally listened to this album the other day. 

I have to say the Party album without the "party" overdubs is far superior to the original version. 


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: mojoman3061 on January 21, 2016, 07:50:21 AM

She should have married Terry Melcher instead of Mike and take the name Belcher-Melcher.
I think she would have had to work that out with Candice Bergen.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Jeff on January 31, 2016, 06:59:25 PM
The unplugged Party is excellent, definitely an improvement on the original.  The sessions however add nothing to what has been previously released on Sea of Tunes - however they did squeeze the sessions onto 2 discs rather than 3.

A few years ago I condensed the Party SOT release down to one 80-minute CD, with the goal of including all unique titles while eliminating repetition.  I wouldn't otherwise have listened to Party, but I like the self-made compilation.  Bicyclerider- you say that these new discs add nothing new.  I'm not sure if you mean that in a general sense, or if there might be a few new titles (or extended versions of existing titles) on there.  Has anyone looked at that in detail?


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Malc on February 01, 2016, 12:22:48 AM
It's not Terry in the picture, it's Stephen Love, confirmed to me by Marilyn, and that's her friend Sheri next to Carl...


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: Custom Machine on February 01, 2016, 12:53:00 AM

It's not Terry in the picture, it's Stephen Love, confirmed to me by Marilyn, and that's her friend Sheri next to Carl...


That's gotta be it.  Thanks, Malc ... and Marilyn.


Title: Re: BEACH BOYS’ PARTY! Uncovered and Unplugged
Post by: pdas1996 on July 20, 2016, 10:15:58 PM
Quite a bump, but it's worthy information...

If you haven't bought the CD yet, Amazon has their package with the 12x12 lithograph for $7.45 right now. (CD only is $16.59)

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B017IF3SVW/ref=ya_st_dp_summary