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http://www.hollywood-elsewhere.com/2015/09/love-mercy-persists/ (http://www.hollywood-elsewhere.com/2015/09/love-mercy-persists/)

There are three more months left in 2015, and if you boil the fat and pretense out of all the noteworthy films released or seen over the last nine months, the only ones that really stand out big-time are Spotlight, Mad Max: Fury Road, Love & Mercy, Carol, Son of Saul, Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief, Drunk Stoned Brilliant Dead: The Story of the National Lampoon, It Follows, About Elly and Brooklyn. Yeah, that’s right — Love & Mercy in third place. And it’s time turn the engine over and start with an award-season. I’m looking to do phoners with a few name-brand actors and filmmakers who are fans and don’t mind saying so. Five or so, I’m thinking. I’ll call it “The Love & Mercy Conversations: Artists Speak Up For The Little Movie That Could and Did”…something like that.

What is Smiley Smile's take on the possibility of Oscar awards for Love and Mercy? I know there are a few film aficionados here, just curious what the odds are for any major awards.

Since it's a little more unique than a traditional music biopic, and had a bit of an arthouse feel, I'm hoping that it gets nominated.  I think Cusack, Dano, Giamatti, Banks, and Pohland are all worthy.  And One Kind of Love might get a nod for Best Song.  

However, I fear that Straight Outta Compton might get more nods, and I'm not sure if you'll see two music biopic movies get nominations.  I hope I'm wrong.  

I highly doubt it will win any Oscars. It'll maybe get a few nominations but not many. I hope to be pleasantly surprised though.

I'd put (a little) money on soundtrack.

There actually isn't a category for soundtrack.

The sound categories are: Original Score, Original Song, Sound Editing, and Sound Mixing.

Of these categories, I'd say L&M has the best chance to be nominated in the latter two.

Clearly, original song. Possibly Dano and/or Cusack, too.

Hope so. Wish a special dual award would be presented. The sound editing and mixing are also first rate and minimally deserve a nomination.

What about Golden Globes or other awards...does not have to be Oscars.

And, as previous discussed in other threads, the Ross score is probably ineligible for "Original Score" since it uses elements of old recordings/songs.

That's why I should never gamble!

I'm glad to see that site championing L&M. I think it might get nominated for Best Original Song. And perhaps Paul Dano & John Cusack as Supporting Actors.

If it can get some attention at the Golden Globes, that would open Academy Awards possibilities. I'll be watching Critic's Top Ten lists, that will help as well.

Wouldn't Dano or Cusack be up for leading actor?  I know each was only in the movie for roughly half the runtime.  But I would think since they each play Brian, it would be lead. 

Could be. I would just naturally (probably wrongly) assume supporting since they both were 'leads'.

I guess it all depends on how the Academy / Golden Globes / etc see it. 

I know Anthony Hopkins won Best Actor for Silence of the Lambs, and I think he was only onscreen for 15 minutes in the two hour movie. 

The Hopkins nomination notwithstanding, I would be surprised if Dano and Cusack were categorized as something other than supporting. I can see why Hopkins was nominated for Best Actor - he was kind of the iconic figure of that movie. But it would be nice if there were some clear rules about this stuff.

I believe that you are considered in the category you submit yourself in.  So, if Cusack or Dano want to call themselves leads, then that is the category they compete in.   There might be less competition in the Supporting Category, so they may they their chances there.  Or one may do lead and the other supporting as to not compete against each other.   Usually the studio is the one submitting for consideration, so those sorts of strategies take place beyond the actors' wishes or egos.

That makes a ton of sense actually.

Thanks very much for the info!

Although your information does remind me of a joke William H. Macy told years ago when he was nominated for Best Supporting Actor for Fargo. When asked what his speech would be if he won, he said, "Supporting my ass."

I'm a bit of a cinephile, but due to my longstanding BW fandom I can't objectively rate this film in relation to the others. I can't really say with hand on heart that it "deserves" to win, but there are so many people who just watch films based on the Academy Noms, and the film would basically get a second lease of life here in the states if nominated. So many more people would learn about Brian's story and the depth of his music beyond the hits, which would only be a GREAT THING. Here's hoping it happens.

It was a good movie but I really don't think it will win the Oscar for best picture.  Probably best shot is acting nominations for Dano, Cusack or Giamatti.

I too though would love to see it win something, but fear it was a little too inside baseball to garner much in the way of nominations.  The Compton thing well may overshadow it.

My understanding, and I've already shown my ignorance so take this with an enormous salt rock, is that usually a film will strategize their submissions en masse. I've seen it suggested that Dano go for Best Actor because the nomination will be great for his career at this point; and that Cusack go for supporting because then the two won't be splitting the L&M vote and Cusack would have a better chance of a nomination in supporting.

That strategy makes total sense to me.

I can definitely see Cusack getting a best supporting actor nod, the sound/editing depts, possibly screenplay. The people involved know how to play the game, it should be interesting...

What about Elizabeth Banks?

What about her? I must have missed your praise of her performance as Oscar-worthy, but if you can dig up a link it'd be fun to check out.

She did a great job with the part that helped serve as a sorta surrogate for the audience, and had some quality reaction shots tho! Those outfits, too... wow. The costume dept. must have had a blast goin' shopping.

And is is a game indeed. Since the game is played let's hope our team wins. John Cusask gave a career defining performance. Dano was excellent as well but is less known with a smaller body of work. I have seen a number of Cusack movies and his performance in L&M is on another level. I'm still in a bit of a state of shock that a....not good....but excellent film was made about our guy...in his lifetime no less. It deserves to win a number of awards.

I think the most likely acting nom for this movie is probably Elizabeth Banks for Supporting Actress. She has the hottest career right now (having directed Summer blockbuster 'Pitch Perfect 2') and has the more admirable heroic role in the movie. As they say every Oscar season, "It's her (or his) time." The female acting categories are also usually less competetive. Plus Banks kills it in her scenes with Giamatti. I don't see Dano or Cusack getting nominated for their work even though it was pretty solid. It will be interesting to see what happens. A sound editing or mixing nomination could be in the cards as minor consolation for no Best Picture nom.

Tough doing a split role for Dano and Cusack but I hear you on Giamatti.

Realistically, the best shot is original song. The Academy loves to nominate living legend types because they will show up to perform. I can totally see them nominating Brian simply so he and band plays at the telecast. I don't know if it would win, but I bet the producers push it (and the car radio playing the song in the film strongly suggests they already have that in mind).

I think it could possibly get a nod for sound editing but can't really see it getting any Oscar noms. Nothing in it stands out to me but who knows.

I think the odds of nominations and perhaps even a win or two is better with the Golden Globes. L&M strikes me as the kind of film the Foreign Press Association finds appealing.

Dano and Giamatti are worthy in my opinion. Possibly best picture. Objectively though, I think it should win all the awards! :)

I liked the movie a lot. Among my favorites this year. I'm not expecting much, if any, Oscar action but will be tickled if it comes.  

Like it says on the Blu Ray cover...The best musical biopic in decades, Chicago Sun times. How can you argue that?

The categorically award nominated/winning Walk The Line was good, but L&M is superior on so many levels. The recreations are stunning. Look at that Sloop John B video again. To recreate that EXACTLY as it was is top notch incredible film making. The opening scene with Dano, talking about "losing it" as the projector breaks to black screen and sounds/voices flood in...wow and I mean WOW. The bedroom montage imagery alone is fantastic, then hearing In My Room to start and finishing with Till I Die......talk about nailing a sequence.

Perhaps the most overlooked aspect of L&M in general is that the movie lets the viewer decide when to feel emotional. The "ok this is where you should get choked up" moment is absent. The viewer can get choked up, or feel disgust for Landy, or frustration with Mike, but its all subtle. This movie IS Pet Sounds on film. Sad scenes about sad times and sad scenes about happy times.

Yes, but you are assuming that the Oscars reward creativity and they don't really. A little bit -- but not much. That fact that only one Coen Brothers movie and one Scorsese movie has won best picture and other great filmmakers never had a movie win Best Picture is a testament to that. The Academy Awards typically like status quo, inoffensive, middle of the road kind of movies. They tend to avoid schlocky popcorn flicks (unless they made a ton of money) but they also tend to avoid really creative, unique, and challenging movies too. This is why I see Love & Mercy as being by and large shut out from the Oscars.

I would also add that I think that I'm Not There is a better film than L&M and it was all but denied any Oscars. It received one nomination, I think, which was Cate Blanchett in a performance that was almost intended to get a nod. But given the calibre of that movie (which, along with The Squid and the Whale and Nebraska, I consider to be the best film of the 21st Century) I think it should have been nominated for about ten awards and it was nominated for one.

Maybe not wins, but at least nominations.  The people who make DVD covers LOVE to put nominations on the covers.

Again, though, for the reasons I gave above, I would be pleasantly surprised to see L&M getting nominated.

Love and Mercy is shockingly direct.  Here I thought I knew the story of Brian Wilson and what he went through as a person.  What I didn't know AT ALL/In any way, shape or form was what it was like to go through that endless little tunnel as Brian Wilson.  I couldn't and can't even begin to imagine what it was like.  And every time, along the way, that Brian enjoyed some kind of public triumph as a person and as an artist I incorrectly assumed that things were on the mend, improving, that there was plenty of light at the end of some imaginary passageway to normalcy.

Award shows and Halls of Fame and things of that ilk do what they do based on reasons which make little or no sense and which pay no heed to the reality of what sits before the decision makers as their various real and honest 'choices'.

I KNOW...though...what one of the most important movies for my life, passions, interests and tastes is.  It is Love and Mercy. 

I honestly don't know how he ever recorded the song let alone managed to finish that first solo album.  My emotions when it comes to Brian and the various assholes who've played him for way too many decades both in person and then with their never-ending ramifications which continue[d] are almost IMPOSSIBLE not to loathe.  The only thing which saves his father from the instant call for retroactive abortion is the fact that his 'input' was needed in order to supply us with Brian, Carl and Denny.

Will Love and Mercy be recognized?  Like Pet Sounds, like SMiLE, like Brian himself...perhaps someday.  The SOONER the BETTER.  I'm sure it means a great deal to both Brian and Melinda and because of that I hope it happens at the next Academy Awards event.

Gawd!!!  I thought I knew... ... ...and I really had NO idea.  What a sensational and IMPORTANT movie it is.  Real industry recognition is DUE.

Pet Sounds, SMiLE, Brian Wilson himself, Love and Mercy, and your post. I was born and raised, probably conceived, with a Beach Boys sound track and a dad who made sure I learned about Brian Wilson along with Shakespeare and Rodin, but L&M gave me an emotional education.

Just going by recent Oscar nomination articles it looks like L&M has been buried by all the recent releases.. Lost in the shuffle.

Will be seriously disappointing if it doesn't pick up any noms but not surprising  :-\

Talk of an Oscar nod for Elizabeth Banks in Love & Mercy:

http://www.awardsdaily.com/blog/2015/09/oscars-2016-best-supporting-actresses-and-their-anchors/ (http://www.awardsdaily.com/blog/2015/09/oscars-2016-best-supporting-actresses-and-their-anchors/)


And for Paul Dano:

http://www.awardsdaily.com/blog/2015/09/oscars-2016-best-supporting-actor-is-crowded-already/ (http://www.awardsdaily.com/blog/2015/09/oscars-2016-best-supporting-actor-is-crowded-already/)

Dano sounds like a good chance.  Elizabeth Banks (by far the best looking of the lineup) might just surprise us.  I thought she was great.

Watch for the scene where Murry shows up at the studio with the new Sunrays record, and focus in on Dano standing in the studio doorway. Then take a look at some of those studio photos from 1966, from Jasper Dailey or Guy Webster, like this for one example:

(http://theseconddisc.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/brian-in-the-studio2.jpg)

And consider how much skill as an actor Dano brought to capturing the littlest details of Brian from that era, even the non-verbal aspects. Definitely deserving of any awards he gets nominated for.

From Variety

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/straight-outta-compton-love-mercy-oscar-buzz-1201605599/ (http://variety.com/2015/film/news/straight-outta-compton-love-mercy-oscar-buzz-1201605599/)

I should preface this by saying that, apart from my BB fandom, I think "Love & Mercy" is a great *film*, and does deserve some nominations.

But, as objective as I can be about this as a film, I'm not sure Banks's work in the film is literally Oscar-worthy. She did a great job, and I wouldn't argue with a nomination just to get this film more eyes. The performance (unlike, say, Dano's) never struck me while watching as a "wow, this is Oscar-caliber work"  sort of moment. I do think Dano's work falls into that category. I'm not sure even Cusack's is quite in that territory (again, I liked his work in the film), but his part in the film is certainly the secondary "Oscar bait" sort of role in the film (obviously).

I agree with all of this.

It also deserves a nomination for best screenplay. Aside from the daunting task of weaving two periods 20 years apart, and pulling it off seamlessly, the script is loaded with really intelligent sequences and imagery. Not to mention great characters.

http://www.hollywood-elsewhere.com/2015/10/full-thomson-repost-the-most-eloquent-testimonial-for-elizabeth-banks-love-mercy-performance-anywhere-by-anyone/

The Academy Awards sometimes make good choices such as for example jk Simmons  who won Best Supporting Actor for the movie whiplash. In other instances, often with the best picture, they make idiotic choice such as that wretchedly bad movie 12 years a slave, Birdman from last year, Dances with Wolves, crash, and a series of other films, often those of temporary cultural value because of their perceived political correctness. The movie love and mercy is 10 times better than any of those that I have listed.

Also consider the execrable Robin Williams winning over Burt Reynolds for Best Supporting Actor. Most of all from love and mercy, I hope that Brian's song that ends the film will win. One kind of love is one of my favorite Brian Wilson songs including the entire Beach Boys corpus.

Pretty good article:  http://deadline.com/2015/10/paul-dano-elizabeth-banks-love-mercy-brian-wilson-netflix-aaron-sorkin-1201581968/ (http://deadline.com/2015/10/paul-dano-elizabeth-banks-love-mercy-brian-wilson-netflix-aaron-sorkin-1201581968/)

The short interview the writer has with Brian is classic!  The way it ends is great!

This is interesting:

Really don't get the hate for Birdman. It's great!

As for L&M, I expect a nom or three, but the acting slots always see a bunch of competition. We shall see!

Hey Good Vibrations, I love this quote from the article you posted;

ME: That was the most fantastic concert. You’re proud of this movie aren’t you?
BRIAN WILSON: Oh yeah, it’s doing very well.
ME: Isn’t great to have a movie like this made?
BRIAN WILSON: Oh yeah. Hey, nice talking to you.
ME: Huh?
BRIAN WILSON: Nice talking to you. I’m writing a song in my head right now.

That is just cool beyond words.

Haha, yea, I busted out laughing when I read that part!

 :lol :lol

He doesn't even pretend to care for interviews anymore

According to Screen Crush, Paul Dano was nominated for self supporting actor in Love and Mercy for the 2016 Independent Spirit Awards.

http://screencrush.com/2016-spirit-awards-nominees/

I'm glad he supported himself.
Just kidding...That's really awesome.  I wonder if, for these awards, the actors make submissions, or if they are just selected by a panel. If the actors make submissions, it's interesting that Dano is under Best Supporting. Puts a whole new light on Oscar consideration.

PS I love, love, love Cate Blanchett.

From Facebook: Brian & Melinda wish to congratulate Paul Dano for winning Best Actor last night at the 25th annual Gotham Independent Film Awards, for his performance as Brian Wilson in "Love & Mercy."

Yay. Each serious award gives a nudge to academy voters.

Richly deserved.

   I truly wish the film and its actors/actresses/directors receive as many nominations/awards that can come their way.  In my own morbid way looking to the future, I relish this love for Brian RISE UP, just as.......Mikes book comes out over the next year trying to change Beach Boys history.  Sorry to all for my last comment as I'm NOT trying to hijack the thread.  By having the film industry cement Love and Mercy as a justifiable biopic of early Beach Boys history.  I feel IMO, this will help with all the garbage about to thrown into BW's back yard from the other side of the fence in about a years time.

   To the Mods, if you feel this post is undesirable....please delete.

Fantastic news, hope this snowballs into a nice shelf full of awards over the next few months!

A mister Van Dyke Parks said it was a combination of Reefer Madness and Fantasia. You need not fret about any book next year.

I see the film was also nominated for best screenplay but did not win. Congrats to Dano. A lot of the stuff that won sounds downright awful to me. But then that's nothing new.

Given all the awards Paul Dano already has, he'll need to add another shelf, I fear.  He probably won't mind.

I'm sure we'll be seeing many more of these awards for various people who contributed to Love & Mercy.  It was a brilliant film, worthy of its subject.  All this, and the charity work that the First Lady honored in her letter alone would have made for a stellar year for Mr. Wilson.  But then he had this phenomenal tour that has included Brian's best performances in memory and the No Pier Pressure release.  

It's a good time to be a fan. 

I guess this thread has changed from "Talk About Awards for Love and Mercy" to "Awards for Love and Mercy."

Understand your fears but let's wait see. They could be unfounded - I'd predict a little wriggling, a little chest beating… but hopefully blood is thicker than water and there'll be some real affection for Cousin Brian.

Yes, and as we head into the final month of a great calendar year for Brian Wilson, and his fans, we have more to look forward to in 2016

-More awards for Love and Mercy

-Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour

-Brian's autobiography

Congrats to Paul Dano! A very well deserved award!

From Brian's Facebook:

I would've thought they'd be putting Dano in lead and Cusack in supporting.
I guess with Dano in supporting he has a better chance of winning.

Wonderful

Hopefully a sign of things to come

https://www.thewrap.com/spotlight-named-best-picture-by-new-york-film-critics-online/ (https://www.thewrap.com/spotlight-named-best-picture-by-new-york-film-critics-online/)

Congrats to Paul Dano and whoever gets the award for best use of music… Atticus Ross?

Paul Dano seems to be gathering some momentum.
Does one "gather" momentum? Seems weird. Gaining momentum, perhaps.

Hopefully.

Oscars and Globes are more of a popularity contest these days.

I'm not holding out much for for L&M getting many noms.

Definitely. It's going to do well.

Sadly, we have to look at the reality of how Lionsgate marketed and chose to release this movie. The choice of June date Stateside, in spite of its obvious connection to what the public thinks of when they hear "the Beach Boys", really points to Lionsgate's strategy.

1. Pick a prestigious biographical movie that's told in a rather unorthodox, somewhat challenging manner (compared to something like "Walk the Line")
2. Put up a respectable, but not effusive marketing strategy.
3. Dump it in the middle of a season devoted almost solely to children and teens.

"Why?" you may well ask. Simple: the studio that's making crazy amounts of money on "The Hunger Games" can afford to put a minimal amount of effort into promoting a film that would have struggled  to be made anywhere. I hear the rising indignation, but let's be ruthlessly real, here: it's a rather troubling story about mental illness, centered around a man who is more famous to the vast majority of the public as a member of what amounts to a 60s nostalgia act, if they know the members' names at all.  

Under the admittedly harsh light of day, the facts are these: it grossed 28 mill worldwide; 16 million stateside. Respectable--but Hollywood accounting factors in print and advertising costs in such a way that at the end of the year, "Love & Mercy" will be written off as a financial loss. (It's really no big though when you have Jennifer Lawrence steamrolling every other movie in existence come November.)

What does this have to do with its awards chances? Nothing--and everything. I love that Dano's on a bit of a roll, but these smaller kinds of awards require almost no real external promotion from the studio. Yes, there is something almost craven (but clever as hell) in that a studio like Lionsgate treats this movie as an afterthought, but is still perfectly able to pat themselves on the back as Dano wins these middle-tier awards; but then again, that's partially why they made it--they can take all of the credit, and none of the blame, because they set it up for a soft landing.

As for the larger awards, it stands to reason that given how Lionsgate basically threw the picture with serious awards chops into theaters three full months away from awards season, we already have a pretty decent indication of how much they care.

Dano's phenomenal (saw it three times in theaters, own the DVD), and were there justice in this world, he would undoubtedly be nominated for an Oscar (a fan of Brian aside, this performance allowed Dano to synthesize the cuddly and unnerving personalities he has often used, into a beautiful whole), but forget justice--money talks.

Lionsgate will mount a respectable campaign at most, without bothering to spend the money necessary to push the film to the forefront of voters' minds. Happy for Dano though, that he is being recognized by the critics groups; it's more about merit than popularity there.

It's not about doing Transformers box office. It's about playing the game, doing the rounds, putting horse heads in critics' beds. The producers know how to do that great, just watch! They are doing more of the heavy lifting than Lionsgate.

The Golden Globe awards are going to be announced Wednesday morning (12/8/15). I predict nominations for Dano and Elizabeth Banks.

Looks like Love and Mercy was shut out.  Not one nomination. 

According to their site, nominations will be announced this Friday, 12/10, livestream at 8:15 EST.

http://www.goldenglobes.com/ (http://www.goldenglobes.com/)

Was I looking at last year's? 

Because, to be honest, there was nothing in their movie list that appealed to me at all, so I can't even tell what year they came out. 

You scared the hell out of me  ;D

L&M WAS shut-out of the Screen Actors Guild Awards this morning, on both a collective "Best Ensemble Cast" level, and in terms of its individual performances. This isn't a great sign as the SAGs are generally seen as a predictor of the Oscars for all acting categories. As I said on page 3, Lionsgate does not seem invested in putting the campaign money required to schmooze with the voting bodies.

The Golden Globes should be easy, though that's not saying much since the Hollywood Foreign Press Association's questionable choices in the past five years are the result of a group who are both easily impressed, and some would suggest, easily bought off...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-best-movies-of-2015-spotlight-love-and-mercy-creed-make-the-top-10/2015/12/08/132f0c58-99d3-11e5-94f0-9eeaff906ef3_story.html

LOVE & MERCY is #2 on the Washington Post list of the best films of 2015.

Sorry.  It just shows how out of touch I've become with movies that I had no ideas the movies of the list I saw weren't current. 

Glad she included it at the 2 spot of her list. A lot of "contender" lists I've seen recently don't mention it. Some of those others on the list are probably good...but you can just tell they will be preachy. A lot of biopics are also preachy, though love and mercy was not...another reason it deserves recognition and hopefully some awards.

Golden Globe nominations:

Supporting Actor in a Motion Picture - Paul Dano

Best Song - One Kind of Love

Brian's reaction:

Brian Wilson
Love & Mercy
Best original Song

“My life, my love, my Melinda — God only knows what I’d be without her. She was the inspiration for “One Kind of Love” and just woke me to tell me the song has been nominated for a Golden Globe — my mind is blown! Thank you Hollywood Foreign Press and everyone involved in telling my story. And a huge hug to Paul Dano for his nomination this great morning! I’m now going back to bed for some sweet, sweet dreams. Love & Mercy, Brian Wilson…”

Paul Dano
Love & Mercy
Nominated for Best supporting actor

Courtesy of Roadside Attraction
“I woke up probably to the sound of a car horn, and then I saw a couple of text messages and just then the phone rang with someone saying congrats. After that I put my head back down on the pillow and just let my whole body collapse,” said Love & Mercy actor. “I am so proud to know Brian and be in contact with his spirit. When I talk to people and they ask me if the film is gonna bring Beach Boys to a younger generation, I always think that this music is gonna be around for forever and it ain’t going anywhere, but if the movie helps with that in anyway then I am very happy.” To celebrate, “it is a sunny day here, so maybe I’ll go and see my friend, but I think I am just gonna take some time to enjoy the moment and smile.”

Da contenders:

Love Me Like You Do, Fifty Shades of Grey

One Kind of Love, Love & Mercy

See You Again, Furious Seven

Simple Song No 3, Youth

Writing's On The Wall, Spectre

Guess the duel role thing did work against Cusack. His acting was just as good as Dano. In any case at least it got a bit of recognition.

Really happy for Brian, Paul and Scott.

My thoughts are with Cusack.

Dear lord, what a bunch of hideous tunes. Brian should win strictly by default.

It's a shame really. I think Cusack has a problem with not being taken seriously. He's also said some really negative things about "the industry."

If he said a lot of negative things about the industry then hats off to him.

Dano deserves the praise he's been getting and I hope he wins. That said, I think a lot of pea brains are overlooking Cusack and giving Dano recognition based on appearance...having the closer resemblance to Brian. Cusack was outstanding and may have had the tougher assignment.

Everyone was all over Dustin Hoffman for his acting in Rainman. Hoffman was great, but Tom Cruise had the tougher role and really deserved an award over Hoffman for that film.

Hoffman: Talk slow, stare off into space, ignore everything around you.
Cruise: Be a hot headed selfish ass, alienate everyone around you, and make us believe your hardened heart finally cracked at the end.

I agree entirely with regard to Dano and Cusack, and with regard to comments about the industry. Rainman I thought was awful all around, but that's just me.

Well this kinda sucks…

http://www.thewrap.com/oscars-set-74-eligible-tunes-for-best-original-song

I did not see a justification for this in eligibility. As usual the Academy is full of a bunch of idiots. Just trace the several pictures over the last 15 or 20 years that have won the Best Picture Oscar and you will see the unbelievable stupidity and lack of artistic sensibility in Hollywood. But I am shocked that the song was disqualified because brian is such a local God in Los Angeles. Whatever their justification is concerning when it is played or any of that blah blah blah, I am NOT going to be convinced nor impressed by their reasoning.

I am betting that it was because it wasn't written specifically for the film.

It was, actually. Both of the BW/Scott tunes on NPP were meant for the movie.

For whatever reason, though, they were put on the album first.

sucks, hopefully it picks up a few other noms though.

Would the fact that they were released first have hurt its chances?

I'm guessing that's the reason, yes. Also, the song wasn't in the credits of the film festival screenings last year.

Oscar rules state that any piece of music is ruled ineligible if it receives commercial release prior to use in the film; hence why Jonny Greenwood's masterful score for "There Will Be Blood" was given the shaft back in '08...

From Brian's Facebook:

Dano's cleaning house with these critics awards

Wow! It seems he's got a good shot to get an Oscar nom for Best Actor. Not being nominated for a SAG award could spell trouble though.

So Brian just screwed himself out of a possible Oscar.

Figures.

Actually, my understanding is that it is considered ineligible for not being featured audibly enough in the film. Too low in the driving scene and too late in the end credits.

Love and Mercy just picked up two critics choice awards..

Best supporting Actor, Dano

Best Song, One Kind Of Love.

 Just got a new time mag in the mail today, person of the year issue.In the section on 10 best movie performances Paul Dano lists as 5th and Elizabeth Banks 6th.   

I concur

In any case people don't think about best song much for movie awards, myself included.  I think of OKOL from NPP myself and not the film.

It's good to see that L&M does keep popping up in various awards circles and in several instances It's been in the top 5 films of the year for one category or another.  Nice that some critics and insiders actually saw it and did their homework. Is L&M the best film of the year.....maybe not, but it sure is worthy of award nominations....including best picture.