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Title: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: bgas on September 09, 2015, 09:13:27 PM
Wish I had them all to show, but I'm sure there's got to be somebody that has more!  


Title: Re: Hey, changed my mind. Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: bgas on September 10, 2015, 08:11:21 AM
  More BW  



Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: KDS on September 10, 2015, 08:37:49 AM
I never thought I'd see Brian Wilson on the same CD as Voivod. 

Did you used to work in the industry, or did you find these on the market? 


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: bgas on September 10, 2015, 08:50:18 AM
I never thought I'd see Brian Wilson on the same CD as Voivod.  

Did you used to work in the industry, or did you find these on the market?  

Not in the industry. Some I got from friends in the industry, the rest on the market.  



Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: bgas on September 12, 2015, 02:23:49 PM
BBs


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: bgas on September 23, 2015, 01:55:10 PM
Huh!  yeah, guess what? My collection isn't as organized as it should/could be. So I found a few more.
Maybe if I hadn't  started by including Front/Back/CD more people would contribute?  Oh well.... Is that Eric Burdon I hear crying?





Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: bgas on September 23, 2015, 02:59:13 PM
invitation


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: dogear on September 24, 2015, 10:10:12 AM
Germany: BW & VDP: Sail Away 1 Track promo CD (5:14) WB PRCD 110


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 02, 2015, 10:59:40 AM
OK, I am going to do this as group photos, as opposed to individual scans.  You'll have to take what you can get...

First up is the advance reviewer promo set for the GOOD VIBRATIONS boxed set.  

(http://i62.tinypic.com/mmyk5v.jpg)

The review promo consisted of 5 pressed CD's (not CD-Rs) with no graphics on them whatsoever, in plain jewel cases with a white label with a serial number and "DISC # x" on them.  The set also came with a press kit containing photos, color transparencies, a press release, a typed draft of the booklet on 8 1/2" x 11" paper, and a photocopy of the back cover track listing.  In this case the reviewer has cut up the track listing by CD and stuck them inside the jewel cases.

ESQ didn't get one of these; I found it in a local record store.

Lee


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 02, 2015, 11:27:15 AM
Next up are Beach Boys album promos and samplers (BB CD single promos and solo promos will come later).

(http://i57.tinypic.com/14alx5t.jpg)

Left to right, top to bottom (manufactured CDs unless otherwise specified):

1. Twofer 14-track sampler CD

2. GOOD VIBRATIONS boxed set single CD sampler

3. PET SOUNDS SESSIONS single CD sampler.  I didn't picture the disc, but there are two variations: the initial withdrawn release has a black-and white image of a tape reel and PET SOUNDS SESSIONS SAMPLER printed graphics in black, green, and white.  These were pressed but never issued, and were either destroyed or warehoused when the box set was delayed for 18 months.  The disc for the second release looks almost identical, but there is also a white copyright warning box screen printed on the disc.  Any version with the tape reel printed on the disc but no wording is a counterfeit.

4. and 5. GREATEST HITS VOL. 1 and 2 Capitol in-house CD-Rs

6. GREATEST HITS VOL. 3 - BEST OF THE BROTHER YEARS advance CD

7. CLASSICS SELECTED BY BRIAN WILSON advance CD-R

8. SOUNDS OF SUMMER advance CD-R

9 PET SOUNDS: 40TH ANNIVERSARY advance CD-R/DVD-R


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 02, 2015, 11:37:05 AM
(http://i59.tinypic.com/20zthli.jpg)

1. SOUNDS OF SUMMER SINGLES in-store sampler

2. THE WARMTH OF THE SUN advance CD-R

3. US SINGLES COLLECTION full-set advance 2 CD-R

4. US SINGLES COLLECTION sampler CD

5. THE SMILE SESSIONS sampler CD-R

6. EMI THE ESSENTIAL series sampler CD

7. (actually out of place) "Brian Wilson Returns to Capitol Records" DVD-R promo for THAT LUCKY OLD SUN

8. LIVE AT KNEBWORTH advance presentation DVD


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 02, 2015, 11:46:09 AM
THE SMiLE SESSIONS advance reviewer CD-R set:

(http://i58.tinypic.com/smyets.jpg)
(http://i62.tinypic.com/rqw741.jpg)
(http://i60.tinypic.com/15ot7kp.jpg)
(http://i59.tinypic.com/6is22t.jpg)
(http://i61.tinypic.com/n2gz93.jpg)

The set was sent out to a very small set of reviewers as a watermarked physical 5-CD set; most reviewers either received a link to a secure online stream, or received the one-disc sampler.  The discs are individually labeled with a unique serial number and the name of the recipient.  I'm assuming that information is also embedded in the data on the discs.  This set was obtained from a third-party (name and serial number redacted).  There are some differences from the commercial discs -- for example, Disc 2, Track 4 is "Barnyard" with the backing vocals, whereas the track on the release set does not have backing vocals.


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 02, 2015, 11:51:02 AM
PET SOUNDS SESSIONS UK advance CDs:

(http://i57.tinypic.com/2md00tg.jpg)

As far as I can ascertain, a US advance 4-CD set does not exist; media outlets were sent promo cassettes and/or the CD sampler.


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 02, 2015, 12:20:26 PM
(http://i61.tinypic.com/5n85lh.jpg)

1. "Kokomo"
2. "Still Cruisin"
3. "Somewhere Near Japan"
4. "Problem Child"
5. "Problem Child" (radio edit)
6. "Crocodile Rock"


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 02, 2015, 12:27:57 PM
SUMMER IN PARADISE promo CD singles:

(http://i60.tinypic.com/do9ixv.jpg)

1. "Hot Fun in the Summertime" advance release.  Note the absence of the Brother Entertainment logo; I believe that this was issued while the BB were still shopping the album to other labels.
2. "Hot Fun in the Summertime"
3. "Forever" (feat. John Stamos)
4. "Under the Boardwalk" (this one is still sealed, which is why I couldn't rotate the disc around for a better picture)
5. "Summer in Paradise" / "Summer in Paradise" (live version)
6. "Summer of Love"


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 02, 2015, 12:34:16 PM
STARS AND STRIPES VOL. 1  promo CD-singles and samplers:

(http://i57.tinypic.com/2ev3y4n.jpg)

1. "Don't Worry Baby" w/ Lorrie Morgan
2. "Little Deuce Coupe" w/ James House
3. "I Can Hear Music" w/ Kathy Troccoli
4. "Long Tall Texan" w/ Doug Supernaw
5. 6-song sampler with promo sunglasses
6. 6-song sampler without sunglasses (this is actually the rarer version)


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: bgas on October 02, 2015, 04:31:31 PM
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Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: bgas on October 02, 2015, 04:34:07 PM
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Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: bgas on October 02, 2015, 04:40:17 PM
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Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 02, 2015, 05:19:25 PM
The numbering of the SIP CD singles is a mess:
- The advance release of "Hot Fun in the Summertime" is BBPRO-1. " BBPRO 1 01@" is etched on the hub of the disc.  As stated above, no mention of Brother Entertainment anywhere on the CD or jewel case.
- The normal promo of "Hot Fun in the Summertime" is BB PROCD-2 on the label and jewel case, but "BBPRO 1 01@" is etched on the hub of the disc -- so it's the same mastering as above.
- "Forever" is PROCD-3 (without the BB).  But "BBPROCD 3 01@" is etched on the hub of the disc
- "Under the Boardwalk" is BB PROCD-4.  Can't see what's etched on the disc.
- "Summer in Paradise" is PRO CD4 on the label, but "BBPRO CD 4 01%" is etched on the hub of the disc
- "Summer of Love" was a Scotti Bros. release (SBDJ 78033-2)

So both "Under the Boardwalk" and "Summer in Paradise" are PRO CD 4...

Lee


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 02, 2015, 06:42:55 PM
More detail on the PET SOUNDS SESSIONS Sampler...

Front and back covers.  From top to bottom:
Original withdrawn 1996 version
Official 1997 version
Counterfeit 1996 version

(http://i61.tinypic.com/6i78rn.jpg)

On the front they are all virtually identical; on the back of the counterfeit the Capitol Records references have been removed.


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 02, 2015, 06:50:55 PM
Inside covers and discs.  Oddly, the interior of the cover is in color on the counterfeit, but in black and white on the legitimate releases:

(http://i58.tinypic.com/2vcytxg.jpg)

The jewel case inserts for the legitimate releases are clear, and there is this photo underneath:

(http://i57.tinypic.com/5o89wx.jpg)


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 02, 2015, 06:52:29 PM
Spines:

(http://i57.tinypic.com/263tu39.jpg)


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: Alan Smith on October 02, 2015, 06:55:09 PM
More detail on the PET SOUNDS SESSIONS Sampler...

Front and back covers.  From top to bottom:
Original withdrawn 1996 version
Official 1997 version
Counterfeit 1996 version

On the front they are all virtually identical; on the back of the counterfeit the Capitol Records references have been removed.
Lee, is there anything inherently different between the legit versions & any clues as to why the '96 was withdrawn - that you know of. And thanks for the tip re id'ing the fake!

- A


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: bgas on October 02, 2015, 06:57:59 PM
The numbering of the SIP CD singles is a mess:
- The advance release of "Hot Fun in the Summertime" is BBPRO-1. " BBPRO 1 01@" is etched on the hub of the disc.  As stated above, no mention of Brother Entertainment anywhere on the CD or jewel case.
- The normal promo of "Hot Fun in the Summertime" is BB PROCD-2 on the label and jewel case, but "BBPRO 1 01@" is etched on the hub of the disc -- so it's the same mastering as above.
- "Forever" is PROCD-3 (without the BB).  But "BBPROCD 3 01@" is etched on the hub of the disc
- "Under the Boardwalk" is BB PROCD-4.  Can't see what's etched on the disc.
- "Summer in Paradise" is PRO CD4 on the label, but "BBPRO CD 4 01%" is etched on the hub of the disc
- "Summer of Love" was a Scotti Bros. release (SBDJ 78033-2)

So both "Under the Boardwalk" and "Summer in Paradise" are PRO CD 4...

Lee

Nice. And quite a nice collection you have ^^^ there,  I might add; weird that they couldn't get all the numbering straight. IDo you think that's on Navarre or Brother?  

Any idea what the 01% or 01@ references?  I notice there's an "A" just a tiny bit farther along on SIP,  a "B" on Hot Fun and  a "C" on my Forever; any idea on that?  


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: bgas on October 02, 2015, 07:01:20 PM
Inside covers and discs.  Oddly, the interior of the cover is in color on the counterfeit, but in black and white on the legitimate releases:

(http://i58.tinypic.com/2vcytxg.jpg)

The jewel case inserts for the legitimate releases are clear, and there is this photo underneath:

(http://i57.tinypic.com/5o89wx.jpg)

Obviously I got lucky in that the one I posted WAY up above is the legitimate early withdrawn issue. 

I also notice there are a lot of numbers around the hub of this disc, legible from the back side; are these the same on the early and later Capitol versions? I'd presume they're different from the counterfeit version


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 02, 2015, 07:19:57 PM
Lee, is there anything inherently different between the legit versions & any clues as to why the '96 was withdrawn - that you know of. And thanks for the tip re id'ing the fake!

- A

Alan, the audio on all three versions is identical; someone obviously got hold of a legitimate one and cloned it for the counterfeit.

The original one was pressed before the Beach Boys put the hold on the box set, but was never issued.  All of them were supposed to be either warehoused or destroyed, but fortunately someone at Capitol liberated a couple boxes of them and sold them off to a few record dealers.  They were originally going for over $50 each, but then the price settled down to the $25-$30 range once it became clear that more than a handful survived.  The mastering information on the disc hubs of both legitimate versions is virtually identical, so it may very well be that they just took the original discs from the warehouse and screened the copyright warning on them later.

Yeah Chris, the counterfeit just has DPRO 11241 in the hub; none of the other markings of the legit ones.


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: Alan Smith on October 02, 2015, 07:31:20 PM
Lee, is there anything inherently different between the legit versions & any clues as to why the '96 was withdrawn - that you know of. And thanks for the tip re id'ing the fake!

- A

Alan, the audio on all three versions is identical; someone obviously got hold of a legitimate one and cloned it for the counterfeit.

The original one was pressed before the Beach Boys put the hold on the box set, but was never issued.  All of them were supposed to be either warehoused or destroyed, but fortunately someone at Capitol liberated a couple boxes of them and sold them off to a few record dealers.  They were originally going for over $50 each, but then the price settled down to the $25-$30 range once it became clear that more than a handful survived.  The mastering information on the disc hubs of both legitimate versions is virtually identical, so it may very well be that they just took the original discs from the warehouse and screened the copyright warning on them later.

Yeah Chris, the counterfeit just has DPRO 11241 in the hub; none of the other markings of the legit ones.
:rock :beer :thumbsup


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 02, 2015, 07:56:27 PM
One last comment on the sampler...  You might think, "Why would someone go to the trouble of counterfeiting a CD sampler?"  You have to remember that there was an 18-month gap between the intended release date of the PET SOUNDS SESSIONS box set, and the eventual release date.  There were fears that it might never be released.  And the sampler contained the full unreleased (at that point) stereo remix of the entire album.  So it was a big deal.  Someone capitalized on that by producing the counterfeit.

There is also a full-on boot of the sampler in a cheap cardboard slipcase with minimal graphics, but I'm not going to give it the decency of reporting; however the almost real-looking counterfeit and its differences from the legit release are important to document from a collector's standpoint.

By the way, the advanced promo cassettes did get sent out a few days before the entire release was put on hold; ESQ was actually asked by Capitol to return its set.

And now that the statute of limitations has run out, by virtue of pointing a deejay friend of mine to a copy of the withdrawn sampler that was listed for sale in Goldmine magazine, I actually got the stereo mix played on a late night show on a local FM station almost a year before the box set came out!  :o

Lee


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: bgas on October 02, 2015, 07:59:21 PM
By the way, the advanced promo cassettes did get sent out a few days before the entire release was put on hold; ESQ was actually asked by Capitol to return its set.

Lee

Did you return the cassettes? ( I'm thinking: NO )


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 02, 2015, 08:05:40 PM
Did you return the cassettes? ( I'm thinking: NO )

ESQ returned its set as requested, but I personally got a set for my role as "Research Coordinator," along with a signed thank-you letter from Brian.  That set I kept.


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: bgas on October 02, 2015, 08:10:42 PM
Did you return the cassettes? ( I'm thinking: NO )

ESQ returned its set as requested, but I personally got a set for my role as "Research Coordinator," along with a signed thank-you letter from Brian.  That set I kept.

didThat's very cool considering the note from BW; 
Basically, wondering  if they let you keep yours but return ESQs or if you got them later. and , if later, are they the same as the original set sent to ESQ( maybe they sent you ESQ's?)


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 02, 2015, 08:43:02 PM
If I recall, when the box set was put on hold, David called Capitol and asked if ESQ's set needed to be returned, and they said "yes."  Right or wrong, I didn't make that same offer with the personal set I received...

I think that's enough of my personal bidness for tonight.  Next topic Chris?


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: bgas on October 03, 2015, 04:10:15 AM
If I recall, when the box set was put on hold, David called Capitol and asked if ESQ's set needed to be returned, and they said "yes."  Right or wrong, I didn't make that same offer with the personal set I received...

I think that's enough of my personal bidness for tonight.  Next topic Chris?

I'm going to round up the scans of BBs promo cassettes from the General topics thread and post them in Media.
Then I think I'll see what other ones I have. Not certain if there are others posted elseweher in other topics, but it seems a good idea to have them all in one easier to find location?


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 03, 2015, 06:05:18 AM
I still have a lot more promo CDs -- solo stuff, side projects, guest vocals, etc. -- before I move on to cassettes.  It's going to be a rainy weekend, so maybe I'll have a chance to post them today or tomorrow.


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: bgas on October 03, 2015, 06:27:59 AM
I still have a lot more promo CDs -- solo stuff, side projects, guest vocals, etc. -- before I move on to cassettes.  It's going to be a rainy weekend, so maybe I'll have a chance to post them today or tomorrow.

Sounds really cool, Love to see them!!  Hope your power stays on ( hurricane?)


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: bgas on October 05, 2015, 03:41:32 PM
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Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: bgas on October 20, 2015, 02:56:09 PM
MAN!!  
That's been a LONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG  Weekend. Is it still raining?  



Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: Alan Smith on October 20, 2015, 03:07:56 PM
MAN!! 
That's been a LONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG  Weekend. Is it still raining? 

I found another one here, so I'll post it up for all to see
I Guess nobody else has any or knows how to upload pics or  Has any interest in this subject

Interest - plenty!
Assets not already posted by bgas - none!
 ;D thanks for sharing your impressive collection


Title: Re: Let's do PROMO CDs !!
Post by: Custom Machine on October 27, 2015, 11:59:48 PM
Thanks, bags. Still looking forward to more from you and Lee D, etc!