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Title: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: Nathan P. Jessup on July 10, 2015, 02:59:34 PM

"I’ve learned that you don’t put your teammates down and encourage them to do their best, and you build them up to do better, but not everyone views things that way."1 2014

“Did you like his first solo album?”

“No.”

“You didn't like it?”

“f*** no.”

“What didn't you like about it?”

“First of all the lyrics. Second of all the arrangements weren't commercial enough. Third of all it sounded like sh*t compared to what he could sound like.”2 1992

“I wonder about his health. He’s overweight and out of shape, and he doesn’t seem to pay much attention.”3 2012

“….and then just lately you know since 1968 or, what is it, 9 when he started getting heavily into hallucinogenic drugs, it kinda set him back about two decades…”4 1988

"Brian is controlled and still medicated. It used to be the indiscriminate use of street drugs, but now it’s prescribed drugs."1 2014

"I haven't heard the song yet, I am sure with Al's voice and hopefully no autotune, the song will be great."5 2015

"Al Jardine sounds fantastic. Unfortunately, Brian doesn't sing the range he once did."6 2015

Really? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQfunDY14Y4)

“I believe it is important to remain humble...”8 2013

"I think our touring band is in better shape, vocally, since I can remember, since the original group with Carl Wilson and Dennis (Wilson) and everything,"6 2015

Right..... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6Q6qNt6qks)

"Well, I’m not doing it to make it into film. But being in India with Maharishi, meeting Marlon Brando, being friends with so many people in the music industry and some of the trials and tribulations, the ups and downs, it makes for quite a story. So I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it were to become a film."7 2015

"What's been your greatest struggle?"

"To coexist while watching the people I love choose less than life-supporting paths via drugs, alcohol or poor lifestyle decisions."8 2013

“What is the biggest regret you have for about your career and life?”

“It’s not a regret, but the biggest thing that impacted our lives is drugs…”9

“Do you think that there are any “heroes” in the history of The Beach Boys?”

“Well, for me it was Maharishi…”10 2014

1 http://www.masslive.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2014/08/the_beach_boys_to_turn_tanglew.html (http://www.masslive.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2014/08/the_beach_boys_to_turn_tanglew.html)
2 http://troun.tripod.com/mikelove.html (http://troun.tripod.com/mikelove.html)
3 http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/foss/2012/jun/25/beach-boys-reunion-tour/ (http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/foss/2012/jun/25/beach-boys-reunion-tour/)
4 https://youtu.be/5k1_NcgFOZs?t=602 (https://youtu.be/5k1_NcgFOZs?t=602)
5 http://www.examiner.com/article/mike-love-states-his-case (http://www.examiner.com/article/mike-love-states-his-case)
6 http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/music/index.ssf/2015/04/our_touring_band_is_in_better.html (http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/music/index.ssf/2015/04/our_touring_band_is_in_better.html)
7 http://bedfordandbowery.com/2015/06/mike-love-of-beach-boys-on-love-mercy-poor-brian-hes-had-a-rough-rough-time/ (http://bedfordandbowery.com/2015/06/mike-love-of-beach-boys-on-love-mercy-poor-brian-hes-had-a-rough-rough-time/)
8 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/20/mike-love-origin-magazine_n_4124498.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/20/mike-love-origin-magazine_n_4124498.html)
9 http://www.shreveporttimes.com/story/entertainment/arts/2015/03/11/beach-boys-mike-love-opens-career-life/70161422/ (http://www.shreveporttimes.com/story/entertainment/arts/2015/03/11/beach-boys-mike-love-opens-career-life/70161422/)
10 http://music-illuminati.com/interview-mike-love/ (http://music-illuminati.com/interview-mike-love/)

Col. Nathan R. Jessup, Commanding Officer, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: sea of tunes on July 10, 2015, 03:05:35 PM
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Oops, wrong thread!


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on July 10, 2015, 03:10:03 PM
And with that being your first, and fantastic post on this board, I would like to be the first one to sincerely welcome you! More please-anytime.  :pirate :h5 :happydance :woot :woot :thumbsup


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 10, 2015, 03:20:06 PM
These quotes really lay out the greedy and self obsessed guy ML is!


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: rab2591 on July 10, 2015, 03:20:24 PM
The entirety of his Rock and Roll Hall of Fame speech is a good contender for best Mike Love quotes :lol


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on July 10, 2015, 03:24:11 PM
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Oops, wrong thread!

The Real Horse's Ass.  ::)


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 10, 2015, 03:26:02 PM
What an embarrassment for BW to be related to that creepy looking guy.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on July 10, 2015, 03:27:48 PM
And with that being your first, and fantastic post on this board, I would like to be the first one to sincerely welcome you! More please-anytime.  :pirate :h5 :happydance :woot :woot :thumbsup

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Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on July 10, 2015, 03:31:35 PM
And with that being your first, and fantastic post on this board, I would like to be the first one to sincerely welcome you! More please-anytime.  :pirate :h5 :happydance :woot :woot :thumbsup

(http://images.dailykos.com/images/112897/large/broken_record.jpg?1414212647)

Who let this troll in?


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: drbeachboy on July 10, 2015, 03:34:34 PM
These quotes really lay out the greedy and self obsessed piece of sh*t Mike Love is.
Do you ever add anything to this board? Definitely over the top with this post.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: HeyJude on July 10, 2015, 03:39:13 PM
That snarly 1992 Goldmine interview (the "f**k no" interview) is actually one of Mike's better interviews. He says some disagreeable stuff, but it's much more unfiltered and it doesn't seem to be colored by a bunch of defensiveness or inferiority complexes or anything.

A lot of people like to say Mike isn't a d**k in some of these interviews, it's just his blunt, straight-shooter style. I generally don't agree; I find many interviews to be far from "straight shooting." But that '92 Goldmine interview is much closer to a raw, unfiltered, and sometimes entertaining interview.

I think that's the same interview where the interviewer appears to kind of laugh or scoff at Mike not being particularly familiar with or interested in what's out on CD from their catalog, etc. That slightly antagonistic interview style ended up getting a really good, detailed interview out of Mike. I wonder if he'd do such an interview now.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: chaki on July 10, 2015, 03:46:25 PM
Here's 3 minutes of Mike Love being a dick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaJOz7hrEHE


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on July 10, 2015, 03:54:14 PM
Here's 3 minutes of Mike Love being a dick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaJOz7hrEHE

But that's all scripted.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: sea of tunes on July 10, 2015, 03:55:31 PM
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Oops, wrong thread!

The Real Horse's Ass.  ::)

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Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: Mike's Beard on July 10, 2015, 04:04:22 PM
Here's 3 minutes of Mike Love being a dick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaJOz7hrEHE

But that's all scripted.

By a certain Mr.B.Wilson no less.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 10, 2015, 04:06:54 PM
I respect Mike as an artist, and feel like he's underrated as far as his contributions (and hell, I actually LIKE LBWL), but many of these are indefensible.  If one were to compile a list of negative BW quotes towards Mike, it'd be a lot smaller.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: chaki on July 10, 2015, 04:07:44 PM
oh whoops


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: sea of tunes on July 10, 2015, 04:13:14 PM
It's fun to pick on Mike because he makes it so easy.  I definitely have zero hate towards the man though. 

At this point he's as famous for being Kevin Love's uncle as he is for writing the lyrics to "Good Vibrations".  I guess it all balances out.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: Autotune on July 10, 2015, 04:22:26 PM
What's the point of starting a hate thread? Posting controversial quotes into a medium with strong antagonism just in order to stir the predictable reaction is typical online lynching. I see no place for it in a fan forum. And before someone points that we're here to give opinions, I say this is much different from debating.

If the point is condensing all nonsense and agression from anti-Mike posters into one single thread, then seconded. Alas, they'll continue to spill their bile onto other threads.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: HeyJude on July 10, 2015, 04:29:22 PM
I think collecting quotes, especially with citations back to the full original articles, is actually a really interesting and important thing that can be done.

Ideally, it would encompass much more than just select quotes that don't reflect well on Mike. So maybe the point of this thread wasn't constructive. But the actual compiling of the information is useful, and it isn't without merit to pull a bunch of quotes from one person to show a potential pattern. But ideally, it would have more context and promote some useful discussion.

I'm not sure how that can be done, but I'm not prepared to say that my preference would be to not post a series of unflattering quotes from Mike if the alternative is to just avoid the topic altogether because it's too inflammatory.

I tried a thread (last year or earlier this year) where I was truly just trying to dissect what happened with the band at the end of 1997 (the quotes from Elliott Lott saying Mike didn't want to appear on stage with Carl, etc.), and even after a long post with tons of disclaimers that I was looking for a scholarly conversation about it, it still turned into a big clusterfudge. But then again, that thread did rebound and we got some new, important info on the topic from Ray Lawlor. So I dunno....


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 10, 2015, 04:33:00 PM
And with that being your first, and fantastic post on this board, I would like to be the first one to sincerely welcome you! More please-anytime.  :pirate :h5 :happydance :woot :woot :thumbsup

(http://images.dailykos.com/images/112897/large/broken_record.jpg?1414212647)

Who let this troll in?
shouldn't we rise above the fuckwits,shitweasels, and trolls???? ;)


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on July 10, 2015, 04:39:01 PM
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Oops, wrong thread!

The Real Horse's Ass.  ::)

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Right over your head. Oh well. ::)


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: sea of tunes on July 10, 2015, 04:52:59 PM
Right over your head. Oh well. ::)

Clearly.  I thought I was a horses ass.  Wouldn't be the first time I've heard that — or much worse.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: clack on July 10, 2015, 05:02:26 PM
The world is richer for having in it arrogant, opinionated and yes, even dick-ish people. Certainly Mike is not the only ego-driven frontman in rock history. Arrogance comes close to being a job requirement.

The only above-listed quotes that trouble me are the ones evincing lack of self-awareness (the importance of humility), or that display a clueless self-delusion (the potential of a Mike Love movie).

I don't practice TM, but I respect it. But man, Mike's lack of self-knowledge after 50 years of adherence isn't great advertising for the beneficial effects of TM.

But, I like the guy anyway, flaws and all -- as indeed I like all the Beach Boys, past and present. These deeply flawed men created something beautiful.



Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: HeyJude on July 10, 2015, 05:09:55 PM
The world is richer for having in it arrogant, opinionated and yes, even dick-ish people. Certainly Mike is not the only ego-driven frontman in rock history. Arrogance comes close to being a job requirement.

The only above-listed quotes that trouble me are the ones evincing lack of self-awareness (the importance of humility), or that display a clueless self-delusion (the potential of a Mike Love movie).

I don't practice TM, but I respect it. But man, Mike's lack of self-knowledge after 50 years of adherence isn't great advertising for the beneficial effects of TM.

But, I like the guy anyway, flaws and all -- as indeed I like all the Beach Boys, past and present. These deeply flawed men created something beautiful.



I can't really disagree with any of that. I think the firestorm comes when folks don't defend some of Mike's comments by pointing out that the world needs a-holes, but by denying that there's anything inflammatory in his comments at all, or denying that objectively he comes across poorly whether he meant to or not or whether it's justifiable or not.

Some straight-shooting commentary from some borderline d***s wouldn't be all a bad thing in the BB universe sometimes. But Mike's comments too often have the appearance of being heavily weighed down by ultra-defensiveness and insecurity.

It is indeed a lack of self-awareness that can sometimes be most troubling. But I would argue he has an overarching lack of self-awareness when he gives numerous inflammatory interviews and then, when occasionally tossed the softball "are you unfairly painted as the villain?" question, has a LOT to say on that topic.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 11, 2015, 07:33:23 AM
I hti
I think collecting quotes, especially with citations back to the full original articles, is actually a really interesting and important thing that can be done.

Ideally, it would encompass much more than just select quotes that don't reflect well on Mike. So maybe the point of this thread wasn't constructive. But the actual compiling of the information is useful, and it isn't without merit to pull a bunch of quotes from one person to show a potential pattern. But ideally, it would have more context and promote some useful discussion.

I'm not sure how that can be done, but I'm not prepared to say that my preference would be to not post a series of unflattering quotes from Mike if the alternative is to just avoid the topic altogether because it's too inflammatory.

I tried a thread (last year or earlier this year) where I was truly just trying to dissect what happened with the band at the end of 1997 (the quotes from Elliott Lott saying Mike didn't want to appear on stage with Carl, etc.), and even after a long post with tons of disclaimers that I was looking for a scholarly conversation about it, it still turned into a big clusterfudge. But then again, that thread did rebound and we got some new, important info on the topic from Ray Lawlor. So I dunno....

I'm in favor of keeping this thread open. I do believe having a discussion on these quotes can be beneficial, as it is a historical document much like the Brianisms thread, and for the reasons you posted.

That said, the personal attacks on each other need to stop ASAP.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 11, 2015, 08:07:40 AM
The comments by Mike on BW bring controlled by prescription drugs are most concerning. I wonder if he would prefer a mentally unbalanced BW writing bland and rehashed surf songs with him in the "room" of total control.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: clack on July 11, 2015, 08:53:50 AM
The comments by Mike on BW bring controlled by prescription drugs are most concerning. I wonder if he would prefer a mentally unbalanced BW writing bland and rehashed surf songs with him in the "room" of total control.
Mike believes that you can control your mental states through TM, and thus drugs that affect your mental state are at best unnecessary, and at worst harmful.

Not saying whether Mike is right, wrong, or only partly right in his belief. But it's helpful in interpretating Mike's remarks on this subject to know where he's coming from.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: drbeachboy on July 11, 2015, 09:38:05 AM
The comments by Mike on BW bring controlled by prescription drugs are most concerning. I wonder if he would prefer a mentally unbalanced BW writing bland and rehashed surf songs with him in the "room" of total control.
I disagree with Mike on this topic, but there are many people who feel as he does about prescriptions or any other types of drugs. There are many people who are hooked on prescription drugs and probably more so than recreational drug users. Though, I am sure Brian is under strict supervision and care with what he is taking.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: Gerry on July 11, 2015, 09:45:54 AM
I will say upfront that I come to this Brian Wilson vs. Mike Love bullshit as a Brian Wilson fan. I think the flames of this has pretty much been fanned by what I see as the "newer" fans. Those folks that may have come aboard around the time of Kokomo.I have to say that up until the September ,1977 incident on the tarmack  I've never really had a problem with Mike.I thought his stage patter was pretty funny and he's always been a great harmony singer. That incident  in "77 seemed to bring to the forefront a lot of animosity in Mike that had been simmering for some time.Mike still seems to make the occasional comment that leads one to believe that he still has some problem with Brian. Granted this is just my opinion but I think those problems are as follows:

1. I think that Mike believes that if Brian has mental issues they were brought on by Brian's drug use therefore they are Brian's fault

2.Brian stayed at home sitting on his ass doing drugs while Mike and the other BB's did the hard work of touring to keep the Beach Boys afloat.

3.Songwriting credits. I think this has bothered Mike for some time and rightly so. I think the only question concerning this is what percentage of the lyrics  for each song did Mike write? I have a feeling that by the time this went to court, Mike was so pissed that he said f*** it and may have taken more then he was entitled to knowing that Brian wouldn't fight it.

4. Brian's image as the "sensitive genius". I think this also rankles Mike and the fact that Brian has always gotten much better press then Mike.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 11, 2015, 09:55:20 AM
I just mean that Mike's comments on BW's prescription drugs are implying that they are on the level of street drugs or only used for control by the "boogymen" people around. Mike could use some  medications to make relax a bit since he sounds bitter and miserable as f*** in all those quotes.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on July 11, 2015, 10:03:59 AM
And with that being your first, and fantastic post on this board, I would like to be the first one to sincerely welcome you! More please-anytime.  :pirate :h5 :happydance :woot :woot :thumbsup

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Who let this troll in?

HEY MYKE:  SAY SOMETHING NEW!!!!   ::) ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 11, 2015, 10:06:18 AM
It's the same old bitter sh*t for 50 years.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: Gerry on July 11, 2015, 10:25:05 AM
Not really. I would say this stuff started after 1977 and really took off after Kokomo and the trial for song writing credits . The internet has really helped it along


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 11, 2015, 10:29:11 AM
Yeah the interviews with Mike around Kokomo and the songwriting lawsuit are really ugly at times. The post C50 interviews seem to be showing the same amount of resentment at BW.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: drbeachboy on July 11, 2015, 10:32:14 AM
I just mean that Mike's comments on BW's prescription drugs are implying that they are on the level of street drugs or only used for control by the "boogymen" people around. Mike could use some  medications to make relax a bit since he sounds bitter and miserable as f*** in all those quotes.
I agree, Mike should know better. Brian finally got real professional help in the 1990's, he should be happy that Brian is fully functional and a happy person in a good place in his life.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 11, 2015, 10:34:23 AM
That philly show this year really drove that home! 8)


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: drbeachboy on July 11, 2015, 10:36:32 AM
That philly show this year really drove that home! 8)
It drove it home for me. That was the most fun Brian Show that I have seen.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: Rob Dean on July 11, 2015, 01:57:18 PM
I will say upfront that I come to this Brian Wilson vs. Mike Love bullshit as a Brian Wilson fan. I think the flames of this has pretty much been fanned by what I see as the "newer" fans. Those folks that may have come aboard around the time of Kokomo.I have to say that up until the September ,1977 incident on the tarmack  I've never really had a problem with Mike.I thought his stage patter was pretty funny and he's always been a great harmony singer. That incident  in "77 seemed to bring to the forefront a lot of animosity in Mike that had been simmering for some time.Mike still seems to make the occasional comment that leads one to believe that he still has some problem with Brian. Granted this is just my opinion but I think those problems are as follows:

1. I think that Mike believes that if Brian has mental issues they were brought on by Brian's drug use therefore they are Brian's fault

2.Brian stayed at home sitting on his ass doing drugs while Mike and the other BB's did the hard work of touring to keep the Beach Boys afloat.

3.Songwriting credits. I think this has bothered Mike for some time and rightly so. I think the only question concerning this is what percentage of the lyrics  for each song did Mike write? I have a feeling that by the time this went to court, Mike was so pissed that he said f*** it and may have taken more then he was entitled to knowing that Brian wouldn't fight it.

4. Brian's image as the "sensitive genius". I think this also rankles Mike and the fact that Brian has always gotten much better press then Mike.


I tend to wholly agree with 1 to 3 (especially in that 3 is/was very feasible) . Don't really agree with 4 in that, does ML really give a damn ?

AND I really do (with a very few exceptions of certain bods) agree with your statement "I think the flames of this has pretty much been fanned by what I see as the "newer" fans"


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: Matt Etherton on July 11, 2015, 02:33:07 PM
Many of you are woefully misguided about Mike Love. I assure you, he doesn't sit around stewing on old issues, or constantly think of Brian Wilson. Additionally, you can selectively choose quotes from almost anyone out of context to fit your narrative.

Brian Wilson (paraphrased) to Mike Love "You're getting senile" 1996. Or "My band is better than The Beach Boys ever were" (few years ago). Or "I burned the Smile tapes". Etc, etc. Why, you could say Brian is angry and a liar!

Point is, when people on this board are most interested in proving some obtuse point to one another, PLEASE DO SO VIA PRIVATE MESSAGE! The rest of us do not care if you like Brian or Mike better, or some such nonsense.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on July 11, 2015, 02:59:23 PM
Here's 3 minutes of Mike Love being a dick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaJOz7hrEHE

Try listening to the full length version - the one where you can hear Brian directing traffic from the booth before cracking up.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on July 11, 2015, 04:10:59 PM
1. I think that Mike believes that if Brian has mental issues they were brought on by Brian's drug use therefore they are Brian's fault

Mike might believe this. I sometimes wonder how much Brian himself believes this.

I saw a few of those BW/Dano/Cusack/Pohlad Q & A's and interviews. On a couple of them, the interviewer or an audience member asked Brian the question, and I'm paraphrasing, "What do you think is the message of the film?" or "What would you like your fans to take from this movie?" A few times, Brian responded, and again I'm paraphrasing, but only slightly, "Don't take drugs" and "Drugs are bad for you" and "I wish I would not have taken so many drugs when I was younger".

I was a little disappointed, but not surprised. That would've been a good opportunity for Brian to personally address the negative stigma attached to mental illness, and maybe express that it's OK and not an embarrassment to ask for help. Just an opinion.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: rab2591 on July 11, 2015, 04:13:27 PM
The flames of irritation are fanned every time Mike Love makes a backhanded passive-aggressive comment about his cousin. All of us here came to love this music, and then we all learned about the history. We all learned that without Mike Love there would be no Beach Boys. We learned that, yes, Mike Love created some of the Beach Boys most memorable lyrics. I honestly wish I had never read any interview this man gave in the last 3 years because I'd still probably have respect for the man had I not. 

My favorite composer/songwriter to have ever lived is Brian Wilson. I consider him to be one of music's most brilliant contributors. Then I read the quotes OP posted. Obviously I already knew of most of them, wasn't aware of or forgot about the "Overweight, out of shape, doesn't pay much attention" line. But look at all that crap. Controlled? Doesn't sing in the range he once did? Doesn't pay much attention? Even if any of those claims have any merit - WHY THE HELL YOU WOULD YOU SAY THAT STUFF IN A PUBLIC FORUM ABOUT SOMEONE YOU SUPPOSEDLY LOVE AND CARE ABOUT? Can you imagine if Brian recently said Mike's voice isn't what it once was? Hard to imagine because Brian has something called tact.

I guess the Mike apologists are irritated about this thread because it's partially a generous showcase of the complete lack of tact that Mike Love seems to fully radiate in nearly every recent interview when he's asked about his cousin. Or the Mike apologists are irritated because they are sick of seeing hateful things being said about Mike Love. Well here's a radical thought: Maybe if Mike Love didn't say controversial passive-aggressive comments these threads wouldn't exist in the first place!

"Additionally, you can selectively choose quotes from almost anyone out of context to fit your narrative." Okay, read the quotes in context via the links OP provided. Narrative or no narrative, it's obvious that Mike has a real issue with his cousin (or the people who control him with prescription drugs...sighhhh). Of course Mike Love doesn't spend every waking moment thinking about his cousin, nor does he sit around fuming about old issues all day. He's the frontman to one of the most popularly known bands in American history. That's not even the issue. The issue is that he has made a lot of passive aggressive comments lately about one of America's (and one of the world's) most talented songwriters. That pisses some of us off. And the fact that some of you defend this guy is even more aggravating....and comical.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: rab2591 on July 11, 2015, 05:06:14 PM
That philly show this year really drove that home! 8)
It drove it home for me. That was the most fun Brian Show that I have seen.

It was the first Brian Wilson/Beach Boys related concert I have ever attended. And I was blown the hell away by it. Besides the amazing performance by Brian and the band, my absolute favorite part of the show was when Brian flashed a huge genuine grin at the audience. He was having a blast and he was making it known. I'll never forget that night!


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: drbeachboy on July 11, 2015, 05:09:36 PM
To anyone who wants to listen. Don't hate on Mike more than the person he is offending does. For all of the stuff that you guys get so tied up about, I have never seen Brian react to Mike like fans do. Take a page from Brian. Treat Mike how you think Brian would treat him.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: undercover-m on July 11, 2015, 05:44:20 PM
"... as far as my relationship with Brian, how he felt about things and that he always wanted to rectify things and subsequently things have been, for the most part, rectified."
http://www.arktimes.com/arkansas/qanda-with-mike-love/Content?oid=949244


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Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: HeyJude on July 11, 2015, 08:19:31 PM
Many of you are woefully misguided about Mike Love. I assure you, he doesn't sit around stewing on old issues, or constantly think of Brian Wilson.  

I don't know about "constantly", but there's plenty of evidence from Mike's own interviews that suggests he stews on old issues and thinks about Brian. He still brings up the songwriting lawsuit, sometimes unprompted, in interviews even though it ended over 20 years ago in his favor no less. Same thing with bringing up band members' decades-old drug use. Whether it's justified or not is a separate issue, but it certainly strikes me that he's stuck on it/stewing about it. Doesn't mean he's not still enjoying life, etc.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on July 11, 2015, 11:58:46 PM
To anyone who wants to listen. Don't hate on Mike more than the person he is offending does. For all of the stuff that you guys get so tied up about, I have never seen Brian react to Mike like fans do.

Brian also doesn't publish his feelings on public message boards.

Can you be entirely sure about that ?

























(OK, just kidding  ;D )


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: Bill30022 on July 12, 2015, 07:23:53 AM
I really take no issue with Mike's opinions on things like Brian's first solo album  or VDP's lyrics. He is entitled to his opinion,even if he expresses it in a douchy manner.

I do object to Mike's shots at Brian and his constant quest to elevate his role in the success of the Beach Boys.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: Autotune on July 12, 2015, 08:31:38 AM
There are other recurring issues, myths that he feels entitled to debunk. Like the fact the he is still blamed for opposing Pet Sounds. If that ain't true, and keeps being repeated, he has a right to clarify things even if it's a lost battle among some.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on July 12, 2015, 08:56:44 AM
The flames of irritation are fanned every time Mike Love makes a backhanded passive-aggressive comment about his cousin. All of us here came to love this music, and then we all learned about the history. We all learned that without Mike Love there would be no Beach Boys. We learned that, yes, Mike Love created some of the Beach Boys most memorable lyrics. I honestly wish I had never read any interview this man gave in the last 3 years because I'd still probably have respect for the man had I not. 

My favorite composer/songwriter to have ever lived is Brian Wilson. I consider him to be one of music's most brilliant contributors. Then I read the quotes OP posted. Obviously I already knew of most of them, wasn't aware of or forgot about the "Overweight, out of shape, doesn't pay much attention" line. But look at all that crap. Controlled? Doesn't sing in the range he once did? Doesn't pay much attention? Even if any of those claims have any merit - WHY THE HELL YOU WOULD YOU SAY THAT STUFF IN A PUBLIC FORUM ABOUT SOMEONE YOU SUPPOSEDLY LOVE AND CARE ABOUT? Can you imagine if Brian recently said Mike's voice isn't what it once was? Hard to imagine because Brian has something called tact.

I guess the Mike apologists are irritated about this thread because it's partially a generous showcase of the complete lack of tact that Mike Love seems to fully radiate in nearly every recent interview when he's asked about his cousin. Or the Mike apologists are irritated because they are sick of seeing hateful things being said about Mike Love. Well here's a radical thought: Maybe if Mike Love didn't say controversial passive-aggressive comments these threads wouldn't exist in the first place!

"Additionally, you can selectively choose quotes from almost anyone out of context to fit your narrative." Okay, read the quotes in context via the links OP provided. Narrative or no narrative, it's obvious that Mike has a real issue with his cousin (or the people who control him with prescription drugs...sighhhh). Of course Mike Love doesn't spend every waking moment thinking about his cousin, nor does he sit around fuming about old issues all day. He's the frontman to one of the most popularly known bands in American history. That's not even the issue. The issue is that he has made a lot of passive aggressive comments lately about one of America's (and one of the world's) most talented songwriters. That pisses some of us off. And the fact that some of you defend this guy is even more aggravating....and comical.

 :thumbsup :thumbsup  You ain't just whistling Dixie, bro. And not that it would do any good, but hope no one is looking for myKe luHv to change his "tune" anytime soon. Instead of being a bit humble and thankful that he was lucky enough to work with his famous first cousin, he pulls crap like this which was no real surprise to me. I had this clown figured out decades ago.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: Autotune on July 12, 2015, 11:40:39 AM
I'm not against discussing any of these guys' public deeds or sayings. As long as there's mature discussion and no name-calling. But in the end, just like with our relatives, friends, acquaintances, it's up to us to dwell on their shortcomings or not. I admire these guys, and just like I do with other people that I want as part of my life story, I choose to try to concentrate on the good stuff. Personally, I like to think of this Mike Love:

http://youtu.be/xe5y7G8RQQ8



And this

http://youtu.be/0ZFuEh02tFw



And this

http://youtu.be/vKUILZqZpkg



Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on July 12, 2015, 01:30:29 PM
I'm not against discussing any of these guys' public deeds or sayings. As long as there's mature discussion and no name-calling.

Given the thread topic, the OP and the usual suspects posting as only they can, in the only way they can (can you say "set-up" ?  ;D), there was never any chance of that happening. Sadly predictable. Predictably sad.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 12, 2015, 02:09:42 PM
The flames of irritation are fanned every time Mike Love makes a backhanded passive-aggressive comment about his cousin. All of us here came to love this music, and then we all learned about the history. We all learned that without Mike Love there would be no Beach Boys. We learned that, yes, Mike Love created some of the Beach Boys most memorable lyrics. I honestly wish I had never read any interview this man gave in the last 3 years because I'd still probably have respect for the man had I not. 

My favorite composer/songwriter to have ever lived is Brian Wilson. I consider him to be one of music's most brilliant contributors. Then I read the quotes OP posted. Obviously I already knew of most of them, wasn't aware of or forgot about the "Overweight, out of shape, doesn't pay much attention" line. But look at all that crap. Controlled? Doesn't sing in the range he once did? Doesn't pay much attention? Even if any of those claims have any merit - WHY THE HELL YOU WOULD YOU SAY THAT STUFF IN A PUBLIC FORUM ABOUT SOMEONE YOU SUPPOSEDLY LOVE AND CARE ABOUT? Can you imagine if Brian recently said Mike's voice isn't what it once was? Hard to imagine because Brian has something called tact.

I guess the Mike apologists are irritated about this thread because it's partially a generous showcase of the complete lack of tact that Mike Love seems to fully radiate in nearly every recent interview when he's asked about his cousin. Or the Mike apologists are irritated because they are sick of seeing hateful things being said about Mike Love. Well here's a radical thought: Maybe if Mike Love didn't say controversial passive-aggressive comments these threads wouldn't exist in the first place!

"Additionally, you can selectively choose quotes from almost anyone out of context to fit your narrative." Okay, read the quotes in context via the links OP provided. Narrative or no narrative, it's obvious that Mike has a real issue with his cousin (or the people who control him with prescription drugs...sighhhh). Of course Mike Love doesn't spend every waking moment thinking about his cousin, nor does he sit around fuming about old issues all day. He's the frontman to one of the most popularly known bands in American history. That's not even the issue. The issue is that he has made a lot of passive aggressive comments lately about one of America's (and one of the world's) most talented songwriters. That pisses some of us off. And the fact that some of you defend this guy is even more aggravating....and comical.

 :thumbsup :thumbsup  You ain't just whistling Dixie, bro. And not that it would do any good, but hope no one is looking for myKe luHv to change his "tune" anytime soon. Instead of being a bit humble and thankful that he was lucky enough to work with his famous first cousin, he pulls crap like this which was no real surprise to me. I had this clown figured out decades ago.
Damn right OSD, you understand the creepy and greedy person that Mike Love is these days better than most people. No undercover PR campaign by certain folks can change that.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on July 12, 2015, 06:42:04 PM
I'm not against discussing any of these guys' public deeds or sayings. As long as there's mature discussion and no name-calling.

Given the thread topic, the OP and the usual suspects posting as only they can, in the only way they can (can you say "set-up" ?  ;D), there was never any chance of that happening. Sadly predictable. Predictably sad.
But how do YOU explain Fuckwits and Shitweasels? ??? ??? Isn't that somewhere along the same lines as name calling?? Man, I smell   h y p o c  r i s y  somewhere around here. Boy, does that stink!  :o :o :o :o


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on July 12, 2015, 11:05:30 PM
I may have to check this to ensure complete accuracy, but I do believe that once in a blue moon I make a post on more than one topic, a post that actually contributes towards the thread in question and the board in general. Probably.

However, a conversation with a friend recently produced something of an epiphany, a road-to-Damascus moment if you will, and now, what once angered and frustrated now amuses yet provokes pity. I'll freely admit, what you and your ilk do, you do very well, very well indeed... but it's essentially all you can do. For several reasons, simple, complex and unfathomable, this pleases me immensely.  ;D


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 12, 2015, 11:44:30 PM
Quote
I'm not against discussing any of these guys' public deeds or sayings. As long as there's mature discussion and no name-calling.

Agreed. Just got home and had the misfortune of seeing how this thread has devolved.

The name calling and fighting needs to stop.

Now.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on July 13, 2015, 02:08:46 AM
Cool with me - I'm just a regular sunbeam for Jesus these days.  :angel:

With a book to read.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 13, 2015, 04:44:07 AM
Now how about those quotes about Mike Love to get back on topic?


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: undercover-m on July 13, 2015, 12:21:37 PM
"If we all take the time to listen and love each other, this world would be a better place." ;D
http://www.originmagazine.com/2013/09/01/mike-love-of-the-beach-boys/


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: ontor pertawst on July 15, 2015, 01:10:34 PM
"I have lived a nice upstanding lifestyle, I think... no drugs... or alcoholism in my... closet of life... some of my cousins..."

"To me the most important thing is tranquility and naturalness... I love furniture, and cutlery, and art and that kind of stuff..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlL7-j-IvVA

also, self-administered massage. Move the toxins out of your body! He calls them cooties.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: chaki on July 15, 2015, 01:27:24 PM
god I love that clip so much. an exercise in douchiness.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on July 15, 2015, 02:08:39 PM
god I love that clip so much. an exercise in douchiness.

 :woot :woot :woot :woot :woot


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: SurferDownUnder on May 24, 2017, 07:52:25 PM
Here's 3 minutes of Mike Love being a dick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaJOz7hrEHE

Try listening to the full length version - the one where you can hear Brian directing traffic from the booth before cracking up.

Sorry guys I know this is old but is it possible anybody knows what video this is? Its no longer on YT!


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on May 24, 2017, 08:23:55 PM
Here's 3 minutes of Mike Love being a dick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaJOz7hrEHE

Try listening to the full length version - the one where you can hear Brian directing traffic from the booth before cracking up.

Sorry guys I know this is old but is it possible anybody knows what video this is? Its no longer on YT!

Jeez, you don't think myKe luHv had anything to do with removing it, do you??  :o :o  ;)


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: JK on May 25, 2017, 02:12:33 AM
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Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on May 25, 2017, 04:16:02 AM
Here's 3 minutes of Mike Love being a dick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaJOz7hrEHE

Try listening to the full length version - the one where you can hear Brian directing traffic from the booth before cracking up.

Sorry guys I know this is old but is it possible anybody knows what video this is? Its no longer on YT!

It's probably the one from 1967 where Mike trashes Heroes and Villains. Really over the top awful. But Brian apparently wrote the script or went along with what Mike said.
Don't know where it is now on YT but I listened to it not too long ago. Don't think it was the version AGD was referring to, though.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on May 25, 2017, 07:57:42 AM
(https://thesquarerootofapplepie.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/can-of-worms.jpg)

Another apologist cop out.  ::)


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: JK on May 25, 2017, 09:25:07 AM
Another apologist cop out.  ::)

(http://jackcavanaugh.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83555153869e20120a55c162e970c-pi)


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: HeyJude on May 25, 2017, 09:36:34 AM
If one is looking for something just a *bit* potentially damning in terms of Mike and "Heroes and Villains", take a listen to the 1993 Paramount NYC show (the "boxed set" tour), where Mike tells the audience that they're "still trying to figure out what that song is about." Yes, it's just a quick line and on its surface it's just meant to funny or whatever. But considering the specific stigma Mike has about challenging "Smile" lyrics, that sort of line was a bit of a passive-aggressive swipe. It seemed more like Mike really was afraid fans of "Kokomo" in the audience would not be into a song like "Heroes and Villains." I think 1993 was the first time they had done the song since the early 80s.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: Bicyclerider on May 25, 2017, 10:45:58 AM
He was still using that line in the late 2000's (2008?) when I saw him perform with his touring Beach Boys at a casino.


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: hideyotsuburaya on May 25, 2017, 10:52:35 AM
if mike love' in 1993 is still trying to figure out what Heroes + Villains song lyric's about well it's no wonder he had such fundamental problems w/ over & over the crow cries uncover the cornfield

a tip to mr. love - write down all those lyrics yourself, correctly and carefully, and look at them for awhile


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: HeyJude on May 25, 2017, 11:01:27 AM
if mike love' in 1993 is still trying to figure out what Heroes + Villains song lyric's about well it's no wonder he had such fundamental problems w/ over & over the crow cries uncover the cornfield

a tip to mr. love - write down all those lyrics yourself, correctly and carefully, and look at them for awhile

Mike hasn't even been shy about how he doesn't "get" some of the lyrics. There's the infamous story Van Dyke Parks told of being called in to do a session for "Summer in Paradise" in 1992 or so, and when he met up with Mike, Mike actually literally started grilling him again about the "crow cries" lyrics. Of course, Van Dyke's answer was the same as it was in 19-freaking-66.

The best part of that story, though, was Parks describing sharing a chartered plane ride with Mike out of town afterwards and Mike offering to send him half the cost, only to be stiffed after being given an out-of-service phone number by Mike.  :lol


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: SMiLE Brian on May 25, 2017, 12:35:35 PM
That is quite the story, especially when VDP called the non-existent phone number! :lol 


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: Bicyclerider on May 27, 2017, 03:01:01 PM
There are other recurring issues, myths that he feels entitled to debunk. Like the fact the he is still blamed for opposing Pet Sounds. If that ain't true, and keeps being repeated, he has a right to clarify things even if it's a lost battle among some.

There's quite a bit of evidence to support Mike's not liking Pet Sounds, isn't there?  Calling it Brian's "ego music" and the infamous "don't f*** with the formula" was concerning Pet Sounds, wasn't it?  I suspect Mike resisted at first but eventually came around and was supportive of it, as when he went to Capital with Brian to present them with the album.  Now he just conveniently forgets his initial misgivings about the project. 


Title: Re: Best Mike Love Quotes
Post by: Rick5150 on May 29, 2017, 06:24:46 AM
Mike Love:

"When we were learning an arrangement of a song - first of all, Brian would live with it for a while. He'd sit at the piano and he would deal all the different parts. He would teach me a bass part - he would sing the melody... or else the high falsetto part... but he would have all the parts in his mind. I mean, intricate parts too. Like when we learned Their Hearts Were Full of Spring by The Four Freshmen, that was their arrangement. And he had all the parts in his head... and they were hard parts - they were moving all over the place. It was all you could do to learn your one part, but he'd have four of them in his head. That always blew my mind that Brian had that capacity - that ability to hear all those parts simultaneously and be able to deal them out to the different individuals who could handle that range. He was quite gifted in that way. Still is, actually..."

From the Hawthorne, CA compact disk. Disk 1 track 4