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Title: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: CenturyDeprived on April 20, 2015, 11:02:19 AM
I'm gonna say the Mike Love/Bart Simpson duet collaboration for the song "Summer of Love" that never was. I still wonder how far along this idea got into development before being nixed; maybe there were some lyrics that were written.

Are there any other projects/ideas that never came to fruition which could top this one?

The BBs did a lot of embarrassing projects, and lots of embarrassing unreleased material has leaked out, but I'm talking more about things that never actually happened, but were on the table/discussed, and fell through (fortunately). Songs, tour ideas, etc. Let's hear em.


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: Tony S on April 20, 2015, 12:01:31 PM
How about when they were considering changing their name to just "Beach"? All things considered, likely would have had disasterous results.


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: Wirestone on April 20, 2015, 12:05:00 PM
Al's supposed attempt to do a symphonic Pet Sounds tour involving Peter Cetera ...


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: Rocker on April 20, 2015, 12:07:50 PM
I'm gonna say the Mike Love/Bart Simpson duet collaboration for the song "Summer of Love" that never was. I still wonder how far along this idea got into development before being nixed; maybe there were some lyrics that were written.





Wait a minute..... I heard some jokes about that but never knew that there was actually a plan for that  :o I always thought it was just the humour of this board....
Was there really a plan for that?


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: KDS on April 20, 2015, 12:17:44 PM
The addition of Bart Simpson would make Summer of Love no less embarrassing. 

In fact, it would probably make it easier to write that song off as a "sign of the times" ALA the collaboration with The Fat Boys. 


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: RiC on April 20, 2015, 12:19:21 PM
How about when they were considering changing their name to just "Beach"? All things considered, likely would have had disasterous results.

"Beach" more embarrassing than "the Beach Boys"? Don't think so...


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: Musketeer on April 20, 2015, 12:44:55 PM
Not releasing Seasons In The Sun.


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: rogerlancelot on April 20, 2015, 12:50:13 PM
Not releasing Seasons In The Sun.

Ditto for "Battle Hymn Of The Republic".


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: KDS on April 20, 2015, 12:54:40 PM
Stars and Stripes Vol 2.   


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: Mendota Heights on April 20, 2015, 12:58:45 PM
Lei'd in Hawaii.


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: tpesky on April 20, 2015, 01:11:25 PM
Jeez when you put it that way, they didn't dodge many bullets , they got hit with most of them.


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: Autotune on April 20, 2015, 01:19:19 PM
The 25th Anniversary TV special.


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: CenturyDeprived on April 20, 2015, 01:23:47 PM
I'm gonna say the Mike Love/Bart Simpson duet collaboration for the song "Summer of Love" that never was. I still wonder how far along this idea got into development before being nixed; maybe there were some lyrics that were written.





Wait a minute..... I heard some jokes about that but never knew that there was actually a plan for that  :o I always thought it was just the humour of this board....
Was there really a plan for that?

I'm hoping that at some point, an unfinished demo leaks out with Mike and Nancy "Bart" Cartwright doing their duet thang. Wonder if it was gonna be called "Summer of Bart" or something?

From what I recall reading on this board, I don't think it was a joke - I think it really was a proposed idea.


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: Steve Latshaw on April 20, 2015, 01:31:45 PM
Ditto for "Battle Hymn Of The Republic".>>

Really?


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on April 20, 2015, 01:39:52 PM
Jeez when you put it that way, they didn't dodge many bullets , they got hit with most of them.
  :lol


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: Fall Breaks on April 20, 2015, 01:44:56 PM
How about Bruce's idea to rerecord "Surfin'" in 2001 to have it sound like a Britney Spears record?


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: Please delete my account on April 20, 2015, 01:50:48 PM
Beach Boys-produced Charles Manson album
"Masterpiece"- SiP follow-up
"Smart Girls"
2012 re-recordings/oldies album


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: ForHerCryingSoul on April 20, 2015, 02:07:21 PM
"Masterpiece"- SiP follow-up
Is this a real thing???  If so, could someone elaborate??   :o


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: phirnis on April 20, 2015, 02:12:48 PM
The "Masterpiece" thing sounds somewhat compelling. For some strange reason I wish we could hear what this would've been like.


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: Lee Marshall on April 20, 2015, 03:31:06 PM
If the Seasons in the Sun version available on YewToob was the 'finished' product...I'm good with them NOT releasing it.  It was way too incomplete and unrealized.  Terry Jacks version is better.

Not going to Monterey is the biggest mistake...the golden opportunity they dodged.  But, and Brian likely knew...thus causing him to make 'the call', maybe they just weren't ready to do it and would have fallen flat on their faces.  Mike mincing and lisping his way through a set would have been an all-time killer.  [what do I mean by that?  listen to his 'patter' on Live in London. :o  Ouch!!!]

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tpesky said it..."Jeez when you put it that way, they didn't dodge many bullets , they got hit with most of them."


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: joshferrell on April 20, 2015, 03:46:53 PM
Howdy From Maui... no wait  that WAS released!!!  :o


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on April 20, 2015, 04:25:29 PM
I'm gonna say the Mike Love/Bart Simpson duet collaboration for the song "Summer of Love" that never was. I still wonder how far along this idea got into development before being nixed; maybe there were some lyrics that were written.

Wait a minute..... I heard some jokes about that but never knew that there was actually a plan for that  :o I always thought it was just the humour of this board....
Was there really a plan for that?

It wouldn't surprise me.  "Do the Bartman" (which was ghostwritten by Michael Jackson) and The Simpsons itself was a huge hit in the early 90s and Mike seems just like the kind of guy who would want to cash in on that.  ;D  Though I think it would have been creepy for Mike to be singing a song with so many sexual innuendos as a duet with a fictional ten year old boy.


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: Moon Dawg on April 20, 2015, 04:28:23 PM
 Mike Love Presents ATLANTIS RISING


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: CenturyDeprived on April 20, 2015, 05:12:01 PM
I'm gonna say the Mike Love/Bart Simpson duet collaboration for the song "Summer of Love" that never was. I still wonder how far along this idea got into development before being nixed; maybe there were some lyrics that were written.

Wait a minute..... I heard some jokes about that but never knew that there was actually a plan for that  :o I always thought it was just the humour of this board....
Was there really a plan for that?

It wouldn't surprise me.  "Do the Bartman" (which was ghostwritten by Michael Jackson) and The Simpsons itself was a huge hit in the early 90s and Mike seems just like the kind of guy who would want to cash in on that.  ;D  Though I think it would have been creepy for Mike to be singing a song with so many sexual innuendos as a duet with a fictional ten year old boy.

When I Grow Up to be a Bartman?


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on April 20, 2015, 05:17:56 PM
Giving the license to Mike Love.   :brow


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: Jim V. on April 20, 2015, 06:06:52 PM
Giving the license to Mike Love.   :brow

Love ya OSD, but you do realize that with this post you're basically saying The Beach Boys dodged a bullet by giving Mike Love the license. I don't think that's necessarily what you meant to say! Ha!  ;D


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: rogerlancelot on April 20, 2015, 06:20:17 PM
I hate to admit this but I think not releasing Adult Child was dodging a bullet. Seriously, just listen to Brian croak on "Deep Purple" and then ask yourself if this would have been a good album to release in 1977-78.


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: ForHerCryingSoul on April 20, 2015, 06:36:09 PM
I hate to admit this but I think not releasing Adult Child was dodging a bullet. Seriously, just listen to Brian croak on "Deep Purple" and then ask yourself if this would have been a good album to release in 1977-78.
Is it any better than Kona Coast?


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 20, 2015, 06:53:51 PM
Lei'd in Hawaii.

Disagree. The ultra-stripped down, vastly different arrangements are really interesting and generally enjoyable. "Surfer Girl", holy sh*t, that's a nice version.

As for potential embarrasing dodged bullets, No Pier Pressure, in any form, being a Beach Boys record.


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on April 20, 2015, 06:57:33 PM
Giving the license to Mike Love.   :brow

Love ya OSD, but you do realize that with this post you're basically saying The Beach Boys dodged a bullet by giving Mike Love the license. I don't think that's necessarily what you meant to say! Ha!  ;D

 :lol :lol Back to the drawing board! Misread the title. My bad.  ::)


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: Larry Franz on April 20, 2015, 07:46:29 PM
This could have been embarrassing, but we'll never know. According to the May 21, 1966, issue of Billboard:

Quote
Last October, [Capitol Records] announced its entry into filmdom through the formation of Tower Productions, which would star selected Capitol artists in films. The first project tied the Beach Boys, Capitol's leading American rock 'n roll group, with Steve Broidy, former Allied Artists Pictures president. Two months later the Beach Boys' film fell apart due to script trouble. The project remains shelved.

http://www.billboard.com/magazine-archive

IMDb says Steve Broidy was 60 years old in 1965 and had produced one movie in his career ("Rocket Attack U.S.A." in 1961). He went on to produce three more movies, including Sonny and Cher's "Good Times" in 1967. "Good Times" has a zero positive rating from the critics on Rotten Tomatoes, and a 30% positive rating from the public, although (or because) it was the first feature film directed by William Friedkin ("The French Connection", "The Exorcist").


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on April 20, 2015, 09:01:50 PM
This could have been embarrassing, but we'll never know. According to the May 21, 1966, issue of Billboard:

Quote
Last October, [Capitol Records] announced its entry into filmdom through the formation of Tower Productions, which would star selected Capitol artists in films. The first project tied the Beach Boys, Capitol's leading American rock 'n roll group, with Steve Broidy, former Allied Artists Pictures president. Two months later the Beach Boys' film fell apart due to script trouble. The project remains shelved.

http://www.billboard.com/magazine-archive

IMDb says Steve Broidy was 60 years old in 1965 and had produced one movie in his career ("Rocket Attack U.S.A." in 1961). He went on to produce three more movies, including Sonny and Cher's "Good Times" in 1967. "Good Times" has a zero positive rating from the critics on Rotten Tomatoes, and a 30% positive rating from the public, although (or because) it was the first feature film directed by William Friedkin ("The French Connection", "The Exorcist").

A Beach Boys movie is something I wish had happened.  If they had their own Hard Day's Night, that would have been great!


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: Kurosawa on April 20, 2015, 09:07:17 PM
Jeez when you put it that way, they didn't dodge many bullets , they got hit with most of them.

Most of which they fired at themselves. And if things ever got going well, they found a cannon and jumped in front of it. See, C50.


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: kookadams on April 20, 2015, 09:17:27 PM
How about when they were considering changing their name to just "Beach"? All things considered, likely would have had disasterous results.

"Beach" more embarrassing than "the Beach Boys"? Don't think so...
better to be named after a place people love to go to instead of giant bugs like four limeys from liverpool and their contemporaries that were named after moving rocks...


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: smilethebeachboysloveyou on April 20, 2015, 09:33:46 PM
Beach Boys-produced Charles Manson album

This is probably the biggest one.

Some others:

Phil Spector's rejection of "Don't Worry Baby," allowing the boys to record it themselves.

Reprise's rejection of Holland, resulting in the removal of "We Got Love" and the addition of "Sail On, Sailor."

The non-release of the Kalinich poetry album.

Also, Bruce's non-membership in the band from 1972-1978.  They still got his voice when they needed it, but just try to imagine any of the albums they released in that period with something from Going Public on them.


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: Pretty Funky on April 20, 2015, 09:51:24 PM
Could still happen, so taking aim.......

The Stamos Beach Boys musical.

 :o



Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: Mike's Beard on April 21, 2015, 12:01:27 AM
Beach Boys-produced Charles Manson album

This is probably the biggest one.


But if The Beach Boys did produce and release a Manson album there's a good chance the Tate/LaBianca murders would never have happened.


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: smilethebeachboysloveyou on April 21, 2015, 03:43:18 AM
Beach Boys-produced Charles Manson album

This is probably the biggest one.


But if The Beach Boys did produce and release a Manson album there's a good chance the Tate/LaBianca murders would never have happened.

Hmm… maybe not the Tate/LaBianca murders themselves but it's difficult to imagine that the Manson family wouldn't have eventually murdered someone given what happened.  How would Manson have reacted if he got his album made but it didn't sell and didn't turn into a career?

Of course at this point we're pretty far into "what if" land, but it's difficult to imagine any alternate story with the Manson family ending prettily.


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: Cabinessenceking on April 21, 2015, 05:31:33 AM
This could have been embarrassing, but we'll never know. According to the May 21, 1966, issue of Billboard:

Quote
Last October, [Capitol Records] announced its entry into filmdom through the formation of Tower Productions, which would star selected Capitol artists in films. The first project tied the Beach Boys, Capitol's leading American rock 'n roll group, with Steve Broidy, former Allied Artists Pictures president. Two months later the Beach Boys' film fell apart due to script trouble. The project remains shelved.

http://www.billboard.com/magazine-archive

IMDb says Steve Broidy was 60 years old in 1965 and had produced one movie in his career ("Rocket Attack U.S.A." in 1961). He went on to produce three more movies, including Sonny and Cher's "Good Times" in 1967. "Good Times" has a zero positive rating from the critics on Rotten Tomatoes, and a 30% positive rating from the public, although (or because) it was the first feature film directed by William Friedkin ("The French Connection", "The Exorcist").

A Beach Boys movie is something I wish had happened.  If they had their own Hard Day's Night, that would have been great!

They aren´t funny enough, Brian would be doing some goofy stuff or not show up and can you even imagine how Mike would be in a film given that in 1968 he went completely nuts with his shouting during perfromances, weird antics and jesus dress? Dennis would probably skip it as well.


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: Joel Goldenberg on April 21, 2015, 07:15:22 AM
Not officially releasing the original version of Hey Little Tomboy.
And I love the tune, but recording a full studio version of Lazy Lizzie would not have been a good idea.


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: Tablevega on April 21, 2015, 04:29:47 PM
Not bringing a horse into the studio.


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on April 21, 2015, 09:06:20 PM
Beach Boys-produced Charles Manson album

Reprise's rejection of Holland, resulting in the removal of "We Got Love" and the addition of "Sail On, Sailor."

The non-release of the Kalinich poetry album.


You might say that 'Sail On Sailor' replacing 'We Got Love' was an improvement, but I don't think it would have been embarrasing.

And totally disagree with the Kalinich record. Probably wouldn't be commercial but very artistic.


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: Robbie Mac on April 22, 2015, 08:58:26 AM
The Brian/Jeff Beck album.


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: Smilin Ed H on April 22, 2015, 09:50:33 AM
Beach Boys-produced Charles Manson album

Reprise's rejection of Holland, resulting in the removal of "We Got Love" and the addition of "Sail On, Sailor."

The non-release of the Kalinich poetry album.


You might say that 'Sail On Sailor' replacing 'We Got Love' was an improvement, but I don't think it would have been embarrasing.

And totally disagree with the Kalinich record. Probably wouldn't be commercial but very artistic.

It has been released since...


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: Larry Franz on April 22, 2015, 10:06:47 AM
The Brian/Jeff Beck album.

Care to elaborate? I was looking forward to the thing.


Title: Re: Most embarrassing dodged bullets of The Beach Boys' career?
Post by: adamghost on April 24, 2015, 01:10:13 AM
This could have been embarrassing, but we'll never know. According to the May 21, 1966, issue of Billboard:

Quote
Last October, [Capitol Records] announced its entry into filmdom through the formation of Tower Productions, which would star selected Capitol artists in films. The first project tied the Beach Boys, Capitol's leading American rock 'n roll group, with Steve Broidy, former Allied Artists Pictures president. Two months later the Beach Boys' film fell apart due to script trouble. The project remains shelved.

http://www.billboard.com/magazine-archive

IMDb says Steve Broidy was 60 years old in 1965 and had produced one movie in his career ("Rocket Attack U.S.A." in 1961). He went on to produce three more movies, including Sonny and Cher's "Good Times" in 1967. "Good Times" has a zero positive rating from the critics on Rotten Tomatoes, and a 30% positive rating from the public, although (or because) it was the first feature film directed by William Friedkin ("The French Connection", "The Exorcist").

"Rocket Attack U.S.A." was featured on Mystery Science Theatre 3000 and quite rightfully so.  It is really bad.