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Title: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: humanoidboogie on May 28, 2006, 03:47:12 PM So, what's the story behind this intriguing 12-minute recording (done at Brian's home, I presume) found on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD? Are those fans visiting Brian? There are lots of interesting stuff being discussed...
Brian: Let me think... Songs on the new album... 'Sweetie' and 'Stevie'. And there's 'Be My Baby' and 'Calender Girl', but [Mike] put it on his album. 'City Blues', a song written by me, Dennis and a friend of his (Garvey-something?) Annoying fan #1: What's your favorite album, Brian? Of the things you've recorded? Brian: 'Holland', and... 'Carl & The Passions - "So Tough"'. I like those two albums the best. Annoying fan #2: I've always wondered who sang the lead on 'This Whole World'? Brian: Carl. Annoying fan #1: Do you like the 'M.I.U.' album at all? Brian: No. I was in a bad frame of mind during that time. I wasn't in a good space... I didn't like the whole bag at all. By the way, what version of 'Til I Die' (on the 'Hawthorne Hot Shots' bootleg EP) are they talking about? Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: Jon Stebbins on May 28, 2006, 03:58:27 PM Dennis' friend is named Garby Leon.
Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: punkinhead on May 28, 2006, 07:04:24 PM is this the same cd that has oh lord, city blues demo, H&V, and a couple other numbers?
Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: c-man on May 28, 2006, 07:30:45 PM Les Chan is the fan who taped it (without Brian's knowledge). It was taped in Brian's hotel room during the Beach Boys' appearance at the Circle Star Theatre in San Carlos, CA, December '81.
Craig Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: humanoidboogie on May 29, 2006, 01:24:08 AM is this the same cd that has oh lord, city blues demo, H&V, and a couple other numbers? Yes, that's the one. It has the eight 'Cocaine Sessions' songs, plus 9 bonus tracks. Ah, thanks for the info, C-Man. By the way, "annoying fan" wasn't meant as something negative (in case Les Chan himself would read this thread). ;D Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: HeyJude on May 29, 2006, 03:34:42 AM I think I've heard of (but have never heard) this recording. Is there any music on it, or just talking with Brian?
Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: humanoidboogie on May 29, 2006, 04:56:05 AM I think I've heard of (but have never heard) this recording. Is there any music on it, or just talking with Brian? It's just talk, with Brian singing a few lines from 'Still I Dream Of It' and a couple of others. If anyone's interested, maybe I could upload it? There shouldn't be any copyright issues with this kind of recording, right? Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: c-man on May 29, 2006, 05:41:38 AM Brian also sings a little bit of "Stevie" and "Sweetie". Biran sounds really good, in terms of his mood...upbeat and positive. He discusses their new hit "Come Go With Me", Carl's then-current sabbatical from the band, calls Dennis' room to see if he's up for signing autographs (he's sick and apparently tells Brian he might not make the gig that night...Bri suggests he take a warm shower), and tells the fans his two fave albums are "Carl and the Passions" and "Holland"! 'Course, he also hits the fans up for a toot...and asks them not to tell anyone.
Craig Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: Rocker on May 29, 2006, 06:09:30 AM I would like to hear this.
BTW imagine an album with songs like "Stevie" "City blues" (don't know what "Sweetie" is)... wouldn't that be cool...? Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: humanoidboogie on May 29, 2006, 10:47:07 AM Here's the clip;
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=715C03C26E20E102 Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: punkinhead on May 29, 2006, 10:52:17 AM sweetie, i think ive heard this before...
it's what Sweet Insanity's Love Ya would turn into Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: punkinhead on May 29, 2006, 07:04:51 PM alrite, I found sweety on an andy paley era cd...so it was first Love Ya on Sweet Insanity & then re-written for Andy Paley sessions...surprised we havnt seen that melody come up in the GIOMH album or something like that
Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: c-man on May 29, 2006, 07:21:48 PM alrite, I found sweety on an andy paley era cd...so it was first Love Ya on Sweet Insanity & then re-written for Andy Paley sessions...surprised we havnt seen that melody come up in the GIOMH album or something like that No, it was "Sweetie" first, back in '81. The Boys recorded it but never released it and maybe didn't even finish it. Then it got re-written as "Love Ya" for "Sweet Insanity". Then Brian and Paley produced a verson of "Sweetie" for April March sometime in the mid-'90s. Is that the version you're referring to? Or is it a Brian piano-demo? If it's the latter, then that's probably the 1986 solo demo Brian did. Confusing? Sorry. Craig Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: punkinhead on May 29, 2006, 08:19:31 PM yes, confusing
Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: Rocker on May 30, 2006, 07:14:06 AM Wasn't "Love ya" (and therefor "Sweetie") a rewrite of "Heart & soul" ?
Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: Steve Mayo on May 30, 2006, 09:56:36 AM alrite, I found sweety on an andy paley era cd...so it was first Love Ya on Sweet Insanity & then re-written for Andy Paley sessions...surprised we havnt seen that melody come up in the GIOMH album or something like that No, it was "Sweetie" first, back in '81. The Boys recorded it but never released it and maybe didn't even finish it. Then it got re-written as "Love Ya" for "Sweet Insanity". Then Brian and Paley produced a verson of "Sweetie" for April March sometime in the mid-'90s. Is that the version you're referring to? Or is it a Brian piano-demo? If it's the latter, then that's probably the 1986 solo demo Brian did. Confusing? Sorry. Craig yeah, back in '81 mike & brian were interviewed before they took the stage at the 7/5long beach tv show. mike talked about how "he & brian had just wrote a "hot" new song called sweetie but they wouldn't do it tonight because they had not rehearsed it enough". too bad they didn't rehearse their stage show either.. :) Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: Wirestone on May 30, 2006, 10:38:13 AM Brian also produced a version of "Sweetie" with Carnie and Wendy for the "Wilsons" album in '97. Now there was a project that should have been more than it was -- I think at one point Brian wanted to produce a full album for them. He recorded a backing track for a rework of "Let Him Run Wild" for them too, I think.
Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: Steve Mayo on May 30, 2006, 12:27:41 PM alrite, I found sweety on an andy paley era cd...so it was first Love Ya on Sweet Insanity & then re-written for Andy Paley sessions...surprised we havnt seen that melody come up in the GIOMH album or something like that No, it was "Sweetie" first, back in '81. The Boys recorded it but never released it and maybe didn't even finish it. Then it got re-written as "Love Ya" for "Sweet Insanity". Then Brian and Paley produced a verson of "Sweetie" for April March sometime in the mid-'90s. Is that the version you're referring to? Or is it a Brian piano-demo? If it's the latter, then that's probably the 1986 solo demo Brian did. Confusing? Sorry. Craig yeah, back in '81 mike & brian were interviewed before they took the stage at the 7/5 long beach tv show. mike talked about how "he & brian had just wrote a "hot" new song called sweetie but they wouldn't do it tonight because they had not rehearsed it enough". too bad they didn't rehearse their stage show either.. :) Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: c-man on May 30, 2006, 05:26:48 PM Wasn't "Love ya" (and therefor "Sweetie") a rewrite of "Heart & soul" ? Pretty much. Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: MBE on May 31, 2006, 12:05:18 AM I don't hear him ask for coke where is that?
Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: c-man on May 31, 2006, 05:00:49 AM I don't hear him ask for coke where is that? He asks his guests if they snort it. So he was either trying to get some from them, or trying to find someone to do it with. I suppose if he wanted some, he just had to go to Dennis' room... Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on May 31, 2006, 02:26:30 PM Wow. I've never heard this before. Neat. Brian is real lively.
Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: MBE on May 31, 2006, 10:32:27 PM Where on the tape does Brian ask them if they snort?
Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: Susan on June 01, 2006, 02:32:06 AM Speaking of April March - have those sessions ever seen the light of day? I'd sure be interested in hearing them!
Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: c-man on June 01, 2006, 05:18:04 PM Where on the tape does Brian ask them if they snort? Somewhere toward the end. Maybe the version you've heard is edited, but it's on the original. Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on June 01, 2006, 08:51:30 PM He still kinda sounds like his young self there.
How weird to here a clip of Carolyn Williams... Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: MBE on June 02, 2006, 02:45:11 AM Billy you are right no slurring or anything. I think the slurring begain about 1986 and got worse in 1991
Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: HeyJude on June 02, 2006, 03:38:34 AM He still kinda sounds like his young self there. How weird to here a clip of Carolyn Williams... This is indeed rather strong evidence that the slurring started later on. However, I think this tape is running way too fast. So while Brian does sound very energetic and is not slurring, I think his voice probably didn't sound quite that high-pitched in 1981. He sounds like his 18 year old voice there, and other examples I've heard of his voice circa 1981 have his voice a bit deeper than that. Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on June 02, 2006, 08:43:39 PM He still kinda sounds like his young self there. How weird to here a clip of Carolyn Williams... This is indeed rather strong evidence that the slurring started later on. However, I think this tape is running way too fast. So while Brian does sound very energetic and is not slurring, I think his voice probably didn't sound quite that high-pitched in 1981. He sounds like his 18 year old voice there, and other examples I've heard of his voice circa 1981 have his voice a bit deeper than that. I was thinking the same thing. Everybody sounds kinda whiny. Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: catman on June 04, 2006, 12:04:47 AM Brian sounds really good. He doesn't sound crazy. He sounds like he did in the 60's. But I guess yall are probably right with the pitch thing. Even if his voice was lower, he seemed to have a good spirit.
Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: Jason Penick on June 04, 2006, 02:14:13 PM Great interview! There's one part I can't seem to make out however... It occurs at 6:27 into the interview when Brian is discussing the songs that will appear on the (ultimately) unreleased *New Beach Boys Album*:
FAN: "Loop de Loop", is that coming out soon? BRIAN: No that's not coming out. FAN: unintelligable BRIAN: No we decided not to get into that. That's too, too... It's not good enough. We wanted something that's good out there. We want good product. FAN: unintelligable BRIAN: Yeah, unintelligable sounds real good! They play... FAN: unintelligable Can anyone fill in the missing blanks here? Title: Re: Brian Wilson 'Les Chan' (on the 'Cocaine Sessions' CD) Post by: Aegir on June 04, 2006, 03:53:13 PM BRIAN: No we decided not to get into that. That's too, too... It's not good enough. We wanted something that's good out there. We want good product. Haha, that seems to make sense anyway.FAN: unintelligable BRIAN: Yeah, unintelligable sounds real good! They play... |