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http://www.brianwilson.com/news/2014/10/23/brian-wilson-brings-his-iconic-vocals-to-tulsa-december-4

Why do you think this is part of a new tour, there is nothing said about a tour or the new album?

Venue must be wrong - that's a casino. Only Mike ever plays casinos. However, if he is playing a casino, I seriously doubt he'll be presenting any brand-new tracks. Meat & spuds GH, more like.

That's also a really badly researched and written article.

Many fans of all sorts have acknowledged and attended Brian casino shows for years. There are not vast swarms of fans erroneously stating only Mike does casino shows. That sounds like another straw man.

Well, nobody attacked Mike on this thread yet so he wanted to make sure people got around to it as a public service. Hopefully someone can point out Mike's endlessly diverse deep cuts UK sets too! Just in case we weren't aware. Seriously. Deep, deep cuts.

Now... when do we get the dates for more shows?!

And who will be doing falsetto?

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Thanks dude, you just won me $10 ! :-)

I wish you the best of luck with your gambling issues, good sir! And why did you change my quote from the falsetto line to more dates? Exactly which question won you a bet? You're so dashing and mysterious with your emoticons.

Definitely sounds like a shorter warmup gig tho, you hardly bust out the good stuff or finish a tour in Oklahoma.

One thing I just adore about this place is the boundless optimism. Brian announces one - count 'em, one - show at a casino in Oklahoma and already it's a warmup show for the tour supporting the new album (for which no release date has yet been officially announced).

He's playing a private gig in Hamilton, Ontario tonight: maybe that's the real warmup for the NPP world tour which will be announced tomorrow. Yes !! Of course, what else could it be ??!!!???

So, will Al Jardine be joining Brian for the Tulsa show?  ;)

What!? He is!? Damn it!

 Boundless cynicism and preemptive defensive of Mike Love it is, then! I'll leave you to it.

M&B shows are always warm up shows for the real BBs act. It took 12 years to wait for the real BBs again in the C50. Now the count has restarted at two years. ;)


AGD, ya enjoying Mike throwing away the c50 to follow his muse and sing pisces brothers?........

One day, they are finally gonna record Waves of Love and it will all be worth it for Mr. Alan Jardine. He's playing the long game.

I hope he is! The man in the white suit is a great part of the band. Wouldn't it be great if they could pull off From There to Back Again live. Not in Oklahoma, obviously. It would confuse and startle.

The reason people are excited is they like Brian's music. Ain't I right? Is it really weird people wanna hear/see someone they like a lot, someone who has had a great impact on their lives? I don' think so.

I am pretty sure you understand that so what's the "I pretend I am stupid" game of yours about?

Oddly enough, I quite like Brian's music too. Don't even mind others enjoying it, actually. Have no real problem with someone wanting to see him play live: I've done that very same thing once or twice.

Problem I do have is with anyone taking a small particle of fact - a solitary casino show - and inflating into the first show of a new tour promoting his new album on the basis of "that's what I want it to be". The only vague dates we've had for the album are November on a few CD sales websites, and someone who played on it saying in an interview that it's due in "December, I think". Official word from Brian's people or Capitol ? Nope. This place is (mostly) better than that.

I'm willing to wager a modest sum that...

This is but one show of a handful (as per the recent gigs)...

They'll all be GH (with maybe one album track - as per the recent gigs)...

The album won't see release in time for Christmas.

Make that a $25 treble.  :)

Still waiting for Mike Love, not war to come out since it was announced in 2005? ::)

I understand and agree - right now we are merely speculating... plus hoping for the best. I can only speak for myself: I wish for new tracks that are good and if we get the hear some of them new tracks in Oklahoma I say "thumbs up". We don't know what will be played, but if new songs are played I hope we can have fruitful discussions about the songs here on SS after the concert. Some of us will like the songs, others won't. Just the way it should be.

No need. Someone kindly donated a copy to me that same year.  I suspect most others here were similarly "fortunate". ;D

Thread title is a statement of fact. An incorrect one, too, I'll wager, as it makes several unfounded assumptions.

Actually Andrew, perhaps you do have some info about why Mike hasn't had the guts to release any solo material this year despite claiming in interviews that he was going to get some stuff out. Unfortunately he hasn't even gotten a single song out either as a free download or for purchase(as streaming "Pisces Brothers" on SoundCloud and Queen Latifah's site doesn't count). Is there any word on whether he plans to finally release his long awaited follow-up to Looking Back With Love? Errr...Catch a Wave....errr....Summertime Cruisin'?

Also I think it is HORRENDOUS that you and others on this board are STEALING Mike Love's hard work and all the blood, sweat and tears he put into that material. How do you feel knowing that the money you are depriving Mike of is making sure Christian can't enter the next volleyball tournament*? Or that Ambha can't afford a new Mac computer to say what dicks the Wilsons are for keeping "cousin Brian" from her dad?


*Yes I know Christian is like 40. But last job I know he had was with Daddy.

 :lol

I want to see Mike tear up singing Brian's back for AGD!

Look at who started the thread.  I'd wager man is taking the piss.

Most likely, yes.

Brian might just be trying out a few new vocal licks and keeping sharp on his performing skills for upcoming higher profile appearances.   Not a time to get rusty.  Just seems to make sense.

Could be. A lot better than having a high profile (for Brian) gig to promote the new album and being rustier than a Ford Pinto.

I intentionally omitted the exact nature of the show last night, just to see what might happen (and to see if anyone remembered). It was a charity fundraising event for the Dreamcatcher Foundation, announced back in mid-September. Brian wasn't the only performer, and it sold out (at CAN$350 a pop !).

Setlist:

California Girls
Dance, Dance, Dance
Catch A Wave
Shut Down
Little Deuce Coupe
Girl Don't Tell Me
In My Room
Surfer Girl
Help Me Rhonda
Darlin'
Do You Wanna Dance
Don't Worry Baby
Do It Again
Sail On Sailor
Wouldn't It Be Nice
Sloop John B
God Only Knows
Good Vibrations
I Get Around
Barbara Ann
Surfin' USA
Fun, Fun, Fun

Nelson subbed for Mikey on drums.

Not trying to stir up crap, but has Mikey played with Brian since he sat in with M+B?

Anyone know if Al was at the Dreamcatcher gig?

They have confirmed Al for the Bridge School benefit shows this weekend.

Not sure about the December show....

Yep. Mikey guested with Mike on the 5th, and played with Brian on the 9th.

No Alan in Hamilton.

What about Alana Hamilton?
Do George or Rod know?

:D

Who played bass? Wasn't Bob Lizik... Guy in picture on FB looked like Brett Simons.... Anyone handling the high vocals?

Doesn't look like Simons. Looks more like "Ike", but I'm not sure it's him either (and I'm not sure if Ike plays bass regularly), nor am I super familiar with what he looks like; I'm just going off of a few YouTube videos. I don't know if he had any Four Freshmen dates booked on the 23rd. Most internet hubs don't let me look at past dates.

I do recall reading that Ike is scheduled for Four Freshmen dates this weekend when Brian will be doing the Bridge School shows with Al. It will be interesting to see who shows up at that gig, and if perhaps Matt Jardine makes a return appearance.

Ike was there for this show.

Great picture of Brian, Al and David from a rehearsal tonight:

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David is the free electron of the BB world - he's here, he's there, he just floats from nucleus to nucleus.

Bret Simons: I'm a little behind the curve, but I don't think he's the BW band bass player any more. Looks like Bob's back pretty permanently.

Less than five hours to go! Super excited. Anybody else attending tonight?

Ooo, keep us posted! Curious if they bust out a song or two from next week's recording...

Have a great time!   :)

Were any new songs played?  Who was there and what was the setlist?

Some photos:  http://www.tulsaworld.com/homepagelatest/photo-collection-brian-wilson-performs-at-the-joint-at-the/collection_69fcf1ae-7c2d-11e4-a4f2-9f719e0e3a0d.html (http://www.tulsaworld.com/homepagelatest/photo-collection-brian-wilson-performs-at-the-joint-at-the/collection_69fcf1ae-7c2d-11e4-a4f2-9f719e0e3a0d.html)

Brian Wilson live at the Hard Rock Casino in Tulsa, OK
12/5/2014 setlist:

California Girls
Dance Dance Dance
Catch a Wave
Hawaii
Shut Down
Little Deuce Coupe
Girl Don't Tell Me
In My Room
Surfer Girl
She Knows Me Too Well (vocals by Brian Eichenberger)
Then I Kissed Her
Our Prayer
Heroes and Villains
Darlin' (vocals by Darian Sahanaja)
Do You Wanna Dance
Don't Worry Baby (vocals by Eichenberger)
Do It Again
Marcella
Sail On Sailor (vocals by Scott Bennett)
Pet Sounds
Wouldn't It Be Nice (vocals by Eichenberger)
Sloop John B
God Only Knows
Good Vibrations

Encore:
All Summer Long
Help Me Rhonda
I Get Around
Barbara Ann
Surfin USA
Fun Fun Fun

Now, because I'm a picky SOB, if I'd been daft enough to fly over and make the gig, I'd be suing the collective ass of the venue for lying in the write up. Tracks from his new album ? I don't see any. Do you ?

False advertising, sirrah. False advertising, and I will have satisfaction.

It's a solid GH set, but the first show in the NPP tour ? My sides, they are splitting.  ;D

False advertising? Er?

Some of us may have been hoping for some new songs, but who was lying? I can't seem to find any mention of new tracks on the BW.com blurb or on Hard Rock's site.

You're confusing it with the Vegas Soundstage recording, right? I think you jumped the gun a bit on the split sides cackling over... what, a warmup gig? The blurbs for that one do mention new songs from the upcoming album. The one I'll be flying over to attend and not suing anyone over. With Brandt as my witness, I think I'll have my satisfaction.

I think he may be confusing it with the first post of this thread that said it was the first show of the tour, when no mention of that was ever made.

Yeah, but the first post was hardly "False advertising." The advertising for the gig made no mention of new songs. That's next week. I think he's just flat out wrong. Kind of goofy to crow over split sides and imaginary lawsuits when you're completely wrong.

Whereas if the Venetian gig didn't feature new songs, I would make a series of sad faces... since it was mentioned in the advertising.

No, I'm not - the blurb on the venue's site stated that Brian would be performing tracks from his forthcoming album.

Ok, where? Post a link. Nobody mentioned it on this thread.  

Here's a cache of the original advertisement on their website.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.81177339,d.dGY&ion=1&biw=1920&bih=979&q=cache:hardrockcasinotulsa.com/the-joint-tulsa/brian-wilson/&ech=1&psi=V_mBVMmwIKTpmQWjv4GwCg.1417804119587.3&ei=V_mBVMmwIKTpmQWjv4GwCg&emsg=NCSR&noj=1

It's not there...so where was it?

I think AGD has just confused it with Vegas. Otherwise people would've brought it up sooner in this thread. I was hoping, but figured it was probably just a warmup. Being freakin' TULSA and all. Hardly where you premiere the good stuff.

Anyway, I hope he enjoys his split sides and extracts maximum entertainment value from hypothetical lawsuits... I think i'll have more fun at the Venetian tho!

Just a silly mistake. Shame that the gloating and threats of lawsuit weren't warranted though...those are fun.

Another day, another negative AGD-enda. ::)

Although that's the original advertisement, I think what AGD was reffering to was the blurb that was on this page:  http://tickets.hardrockcasinotulsa.com (http://tickets.hardrockcasinotulsa.com)/.  It's no longer there because the event already passed, and the Google cache of the page has already been updated.

On second thought, maybe not:  http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:C0qINqDIwtsJ:tickets.hardrockcasinotulsa.com/default.asp%3FSearchMonth%3D%26monthsubmit%3D%26SearchText%3D%26MV%3D%26sel%3D%26pg%3D2%26anchor%3Dupcoming+&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:C0qINqDIwtsJ:tickets.hardrockcasinotulsa.com/default.asp%3FSearchMonth%3D%26monthsubmit%3D%26SearchText%3D%26MV%3D%26sel%3D%26pg%3D2%26anchor%3Dupcoming+&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)

Will you be daft enough to fly over for the Vegas show?

AGD's just wrong. Someone would've posted about the ad here if that were the case, not the day after the show. Not if it was up for weeks!

Only living about a 7 hour drive away, I have been monitoring the ads and tickets for some time for Tulsa.  I never saw anything about new songs being performed in Tulsa.  I was hoping to make it anyway, but I had a scheduling conflict. I'm so depressed I missed Ike and that great show, as ever since I saw him with the Four Freshman about 8 years ago, I thought he would be perfect for Brian's band, and now he's there, hopefully on a regular basis. I can't make Vegas but am hoping for shows next year.  New songs in Vegas - that's advertised - and I'm really looking forward to hearing about it from the people who can make it.

New link: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://tickets.hardrockcasinotulsa.com/ordertickets.asp?p=266&backurl=default.asp

I did not find the ad but I found that when selecting seats row "A" is located closest to the stage and row "Z" would be farthest away.

The chain of events went like this:

Bgas made some remark on another thread, to which AGD responded that he would never respond to another Bgas post again. A few hours after that Bgas began this thread, and a half hour after that AGD responded to it. As far I know, no advertisements were linked.

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Exactly

It was the Vegas show. Mistake was made. It happens.

Yes, and let's be fair, we're talking about someone who is always extraordinarily gracious and never hurtful to others when they make a mistake.

 ;D

To muddy the waters more, an earlier Brian show was advertised as having songs from the new album being premiered. Never happened.

From the pictures, it looks like Al wasn't at this particular show.

OK, time to 'fess up - looks like I've made a bigger ass of myself than is usual by misremembering the wrong press release. Apologies to one and all, no excuse except my accustomed inflexibility. Geez, what a tool...  :old

I plead the Whitman Defence:

"Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes."

In response all I can put up is:      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krD4hdGvGHM 

I  also felt compelled to trace your quote and find the meaning, which is ever so enlightening

Walt Whitman, "Song of Myself" (1855)

Yeah, I didn't go that far back; found a high school teacher to explain: http://www.enotes.com/homework-help/what-meant-by-walt-whitmans-do-contradict-myself-129483

Terrible mistake, AGD should be banned for a week  ;D

The pattern after the two UK shows seems to be that Al makes it to the California gigs, and not necessarily the others (of which there have only been a few). The upcoming Vegas gig is of course an exception, though I figure he's there because it's a special TV shoot.

I would guess Al is either doing these shows on his own dime, or they pick up his travel expenses but only within California.

As for the "advertising" of shows as far as setlist, you *have* to go into a show knowing the setlist is pretty much like the weather, it's "subject to change." I'm a bit surprised, regardless of any advertising, that they didn't test-run something at the Tulsa show since they seemingly will be doing some new stuff at the Vegas show eight days later.

I went to a "Family & Friends" show in 2000 where they advertised that the show would feature BB songs as well as "Wilson sisters" songs. Of course, the Wilson sisters did nothing from their own catalog, as was the case with every show they did with Al as far as I know.

Brian looks great and happy to be there. Was anyone on the board at the show?

God Only Knows:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5pIrVl82TI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5pIrVl82TI)

I'm waiting for more reports, but I'm not surprised at all that they didn't "test run" any new songs. Why would they reveal anything when there is such an anticipation and demand to hear the new songs, and the Vegas shows next week which will follow a week of rehearsals and fine-tuning will be one of the unveilings? I'm glad nothing new was done, if not for the fact that you'd have half-assed cel phone videos circulating everywhere of these test runs and the surprise would be blown. Actually count me in the probably tiny number of fans who don't want to hear the new stuff from Vegas until it gets officially played on stage at the actual show, rather than rehearsals.

http://www.realrocknews.com/concert-review-brian-wilson-the-joint-at-the-tulsa-hard-rock-hotel-casino/

"Need proof that Wilson’s songwriting and back catalog as the creative driving force of The Beach Boys will be admired for decades like the work of The Beatles, Bob Dylan and Pink Floyd? Just go see Wilson in concert, and although the mellow man with the salt-and-pepper pompadour won’t be swinging from the rafters or igniting hot, blinding pyros, Wilson’s songs will speak for themselves."

"Watching and hearing Wilson stroll through his ground-breaking work in Tulsa, it quickly became apparent that the best of Wilson’s work easily matches the song-craft genius of fellow Americans Bob Dylan, Paul Simon and Stevie Wonder. Chord for chord, verse for verse, one would be hard pressed to find better U.S. musical treasures than”Heroes and Villains,” “Wouldn’t It Be Nice” and “God Only Knows.” Those songs have lived and touched so many lives for 50 years. My cash says that Wilson’s music will last another five decades … and then some."

Thanks!  Very enjoyable review.

Still, expected wobbly 21st-century Brian Wilson vocals...BUT, at least it doesn't sound any worse.  "God Only Knows" has never been much of a live vocal highlight for Brian though...would love to see any other clips...

Check out this guy's videos:  https://www.youtube.com/user/hoosierbabydaddy/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/hoosierbabydaddy/videos)

If the Vegas show were going out live or something, then it would make more sense to make it a big "reveal" as far as new songs. But it's being taped and aired at some point next year. For all we know, we'll see the PBS "Soundstage" episode after the album is released and/or after we've heard songs from the album in some form or another.

The only thing we'll see from the show in the next few months is the usual YouTube fare, which would be the same thing we'd get from Tulsa. I suppose more people might be in Vegas to capture cell phone videos, and there might be more press/media there.

But unless I'm at the show in question, it doesn't strike me as a bigger deal to simply read that songs were unveiled on December 12th in Las Vegas versus December 4th in Tulsa.

I think Brian may well have been waiting for a big unveiling though, so he may see the Vegas show as a big unveiling from the performer point of view. Many artists test run "new" songs in concert well before they release them (and often then they're not really testing the song as if the audience at the show will be deciding whether the song makes it on the album). But it does appear Brian doesn't want to go this route. I think it would have been cool to hear a new song or two in the last year at a random show. This new album isn't "Smile", it wouldn't have been a big deal to let out a song or two early.

Wobbly?  :whatever Yes, he may have faltered on a few of the high notes, but don't see him teetering on a stepladder on delivery whatsoever. Compared to 15BO, Love You, and the shouty period, I'd say he's doing vey well indeed.

Weeeell... maybe it is, you know? :)