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The follow up to Symphony to God (http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,18190.0.html)

It's called Dumb Angels
https://vimeo.com/134540323

It's all rare tracks or deep cuts. If you liked StG, the idea here is the same, although this project took about a month, versus StG taking a day.

Hopefully there's something in there even a more obsessive fan hasn't heard before (Sweet and Bitter anybody?)
Rab2591 made the intro, Judd did tons of slick editing throughout the rest of it.

Enjoy!

Art by Judd
(http://i.imgur.com/GjLgoey.jpg)

I was fortunate enough to catch the last minutes of the premiere stream. 8) Awesome. Looking forward to spending time with the whole thing. Thanks for the stand-out work and upload!

This sounds great!  What is Sweet & Bitter from, when was this recorded, and who wrote it?  I have never heard of this.  Carry Me Home sounds much clearer than the version I am used to listening too.

The YouTube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7nqaz99_ms) explains it all.
He also has some other similar Beach Boy stuff on his channel.

Isn't it a great little song? The production in the chorus is what makes it for me

I must be an idiot, I don't see the details around Sweet & Bitter or Carry Me Home.

Sweet and Bitter was recorded after the Sunflower sessions...its just an unknown gem.

The Carry Me Home I used was digitally remasted by a fan. You can find some other really nice work on his channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnK5-P1Rizi4byEMbRcTGZQ

Kicks just keep gettin' harder to find...

cool, thanks!

Matt,  Just hit the subscribe button, and go into his listings.  He has some great tracks.

Sweet & Bitter sounds more recent to me, like late 70s.

I just did, there is some good stuff there.

Haven't heard Dennis "ecology" before... the source?

What's available is on Dumb Angel Rarities 14, in different pieces.

There is a good 8-page thread about "Sweet & Bitter" & other tune(s). Read over here: http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,14995.0.html

How can one save YouTube material and burn it onto CDR?

Download a free YouTube to mp3 converter.
(I think?....)

Try http://keepvid.com/ - you should see a few "audio only" options.

Cheers Mikey, also to Aomdiddlywalla!

There's also a download link in the description of the video - just for you guys  :angel:

Cheers for that! Done.

I'm happy you liked it enough to burn it to a CD  :thumbsup

wow it sounds like "Come sail away" by Styx  :o 

The tracks were cut by Dennis and printed on acetates, which I believe Desper owns - I can't recall the story clearly, but I think he ripped them to tape and that was somehow circulated.

Not sure though.

Well you know I hate to be a downer... but that's not "Ecology". It has, er, elements of "Ecology" in it but also sections of tracks prepared by SWD for use at an industry symposium to demonstrate quad (the closing section). The real "Ecology" rough edit starts with "All Of My Love"... or rather, the one I heard does (and the provenience of that is impeccable). What you have here is a fan 'mix'. It's a good one, but Dennis had nothing to do with the assembling thereof.

Also... that is some killer artwork. Totally stunning.  ;D

100% true. I should have mentioned that to begin with  :P
Thanks for the info about the origins of the track(s).


The artwork Judd made for the next one is even better! I'll post new edit/artwork sometime in the next 3 weeks.

Got this on now.... Real nice work. Thank you Si.

Reuploaded at this address:

https://vimeo.com/134540323

Loved Hawthorne Sunset - definitely looking forward to checking this one out later. You do amazing work OP!

Fab work!

What song is that at around 50 mins and just after? (Excuse my ignorance, I don't really have much of a habit of seeking out unofficial material)...I definitely know where The Explorers Club got their inspiration for their song 'Carry Me' from now.

COMMENT:
What I've heard of this "industrial tape" was a bootleg recording done with an audience microphone at the symposium at the time I presented a paper. It was to the Audio Engineering Society, Hollywood USA section. Dennis Wilson & Daryl Dragon assisted me with the musical portion of the presentation on methods of recording pianos, vocals, etc. in quadraphonic sound. I needed material that illustrated some techniques to engineers who were at that time just beginning to get involved in quad. Since I'd been experimenting with it for several years prior to it becoming a popular medium, the society ask me to enlighten them. The two D's were working together on some musical ideas, not developed yet, so we used those songs-in-progress as the genesis of the demonstration. Since Capitol Records was a supporter of AES and with Beach Boy influence, I was able to use Capitol Studio's equipment at the Tower for the mixdown at no cost. (egads - those were the days!)  I'm looking at the 4-track tape master right now. Some day I'll issue a study-video of it and run the back two channels through the matrix for a four to two fold-down. However that will be hard to do because the master tape is on 1/2 inch tape at 30 IPS. It was recorded on Agfa-Gevaert tape, an expensive tape imported from Germany that I liked to use for masters and multi-tracks. It had better signal-to-noise performance than anything Scotch made at the time. Since we did so many ping-pongs (copying from one track to another) it kept the hiss to a minimum. Agfa, with its pink backing, also had a superior oxide binding qualities, which has become evident through the passage of time as other Scotch brand older tapes fall apart on playback. (See link below for an Agfa tape ad in Billboard of the day.) Machines to play this type of tape are hard to find. I know for certain there are none around this part of the country. If anyone knows of such a machine, drop me an email (which you can find on my profile). Maybe someday I'll get this master transferred. ~swd

Ad in Billboard >>> https://books.google.com/books?id=xyQEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PT59&lpg=PT59&dq=agfa+gevaert+recording+tape&source=bl&ots=oZ62E4ecTW&sig=FlHuxAHErgzOj_sTnlC6kQSC1u4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCAQ6AEwAWoVChMI4MznkdH5xgIVx9KACh0PjQBz#v=onepage&q=agfa%20gevaert%20recording%20tape&f=false

Excellent Stephen, thank you for the background on the music.  I've always loved those vocals on All of My Love and wondered why it was never completed.

That is a composite of the pieces that were supposed to make a Dennis Wilson song called Ecology...or something along those lines. The 'All of my Love' bit supposedly has 100 overdubs of Denny's voice. Judd stitched them together the way they are in my mix but there is no final version.

Sounds great & I like the bootleg artcover as well!

Al looks like Joe Pesci with beard!

What year is that profile picture of Mike from? It's so weird to see him with such a full head of hair!