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Title: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: Woodstock on September 27, 2014, 09:01:45 AM
The follow up to Symphony to God (http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,18190.0.html)

It's called Dumb Angels
https://vimeo.com/134540323

It's all rare tracks or deep cuts. If you liked StG, the idea here is the same, although this project took about a month, versus StG taking a day.

Hopefully there's something in there even a more obsessive fan hasn't heard before (Sweet and Bitter anybody?)
Rab2591 made the intro, Judd did tons of slick editing throughout the rest of it.

Enjoy!

Art by Judd
(http://i.imgur.com/GjLgoey.jpg)


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: Lowbacca on September 27, 2014, 09:04:08 AM
I was fortunate enough to catch the last minutes of the premiere stream. 8) Awesome. Looking forward to spending time with the whole thing. Thanks for the stand-out work and upload!


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: Matt H on September 27, 2014, 12:57:21 PM
This sounds great!  What is Sweet & Bitter from, when was this recorded, and who wrote it?  I have never heard of this.  Carry Me Home sounds much clearer than the version I am used to listening too.


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: alf wiedersehen on September 27, 2014, 01:17:02 PM
This sounds great!  What is Sweet & Bitter from, when was this recorded, and who wrote it?  I have never heard of this.  Carry Me Home sounds much clearer than the version I am used to listening too.

The YouTube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7nqaz99_ms) explains it all.
He also has some other similar Beach Boy stuff on his channel.


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: Woodstock on September 27, 2014, 01:35:45 PM
This sounds great!  What is Sweet & Bitter from, when was this recorded, and who wrote it?  

Isn't it a great little song? The production in the chorus is what makes it for me


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: Matt H on September 27, 2014, 01:36:41 PM
This sounds great!  What is Sweet & Bitter from, when was this recorded, and who wrote it?  

Isn't it a great little song? The production in the chorus is what makes it for me

I must be an idiot, I don't see the details around Sweet & Bitter or Carry Me Home.


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: Woodstock on September 27, 2014, 01:43:31 PM
This sounds great!  What is Sweet & Bitter from, when was this recorded, and who wrote it?  

Isn't it a great little song? The production in the chorus is what makes it for me

I must be an idiot, I don't see the details around Sweet & Bitter or Carry Me Home.

Sweet and Bitter was recorded after the Sunflower sessions...its just an unknown gem.

The Carry Me Home I used was digitally remasted by a fan. You can find some other really nice work on his channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnK5-P1Rizi4byEMbRcTGZQ


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: Empire Of Love on September 27, 2014, 02:02:13 PM
This sounds great!  What is Sweet & Bitter from, when was this recorded, and who wrote it?  I have never heard of this.  Carry Me Home sounds much clearer than the version I am used to listening too.

The YouTube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7nqaz99_ms) explains it all.
He also has some other similar Beach Boy stuff on his channel.

Kicks just keep gettin' harder to find...


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: Matt H on September 27, 2014, 02:33:42 PM
This sounds great!  What is Sweet & Bitter from, when was this recorded, and who wrote it?  

Isn't it a great little song? The production in the chorus is what makes it for me

I must be an idiot, I don't see the details around Sweet & Bitter or Carry Me Home.

Sweet and Bitter was recorded after the Sunflower sessions...its just an unknown gem.

The Carry Me Home I used was digitally remasted by a fan. You can find some other really nice work on his channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnK5-P1Rizi4byEMbRcTGZQ

cool, thanks!


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: feelsflow on September 27, 2014, 02:41:36 PM
This sounds great!  What is Sweet & Bitter from, when was this recorded, and who wrote it?  

Isn't it a great little song? The production in the chorus is what makes it for me

I must be an idiot, I don't see the details around Sweet & Bitter or Carry Me Home.
Matt,  Just hit the subscribe button, and go into his listings.  He has some great tracks.
Woodstock, Judd, Rab2591,  Outstanding work all around.  Thanks for the hard work.  I love the cover art.  Can't wait for part three.


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 27, 2014, 03:49:00 PM
This sounds great!  What is Sweet & Bitter from, when was this recorded, and who wrote it? 

Isn't it a great little song? The production in the chorus is what makes it for me

I must be an idiot, I don't see the details around Sweet & Bitter or Carry Me Home.

Sweet and Bitter was recorded after the Sunflower sessions...its just an unknown gem.

The Carry Me Home I used was digitally remasted by a fan. You can find some other really nice work on his channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnK5-P1Rizi4byEMbRcTGZQ

Sweet & Bitter sounds more recent to me, like late 70s.


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: Matt H on September 27, 2014, 04:36:59 PM
This sounds great!  What is Sweet & Bitter from, when was this recorded, and who wrote it?  

Isn't it a great little song? The production in the chorus is what makes it for me

I must be an idiot, I don't see the details around Sweet & Bitter or Carry Me Home.
Matt,  Just hit the subscribe button, and go into his listings.  He has some great tracks.
Woodstock, Judd, Rab2591,  Outstanding work all around.  Thanks for the hard work.  I love the cover art.  Can't wait for part three.

I just did, there is some good stuff there.


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: doc smiley on September 27, 2014, 07:09:14 PM
Haven't heard Dennis "ecology" before... the source?


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: Dudd on September 27, 2014, 07:16:16 PM
Haven't heard Dennis "ecology" before... the source?
What's available is on Dumb Angel Rarities 14, in different pieces.


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on September 28, 2014, 09:24:40 PM
There is a good 8-page thread about "Sweet & Bitter" & other tune(s). Read over here: http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,14995.0.html


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: The Heartical Don on September 29, 2014, 12:17:59 AM
How can one save YouTube material and burn it onto CDR?


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: Aomdiddlywalla on September 29, 2014, 12:36:42 AM
How can one save YouTube material and burn it onto CDR?
Download a free YouTube to mp3 converter.
(I think?....)



Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: mikeyj on September 29, 2014, 02:06:22 AM
How can one save YouTube material and burn it onto CDR?

Try http://keepvid.com/ - you should see a few "audio only" options.


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: The Heartical Don on September 29, 2014, 02:17:27 AM
How can one save YouTube material and burn it onto CDR?

Try http://keepvid.com/ - you should see a few "audio only" options.

Cheers Mikey, also to Aomdiddlywalla!


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: Woodstock on September 29, 2014, 05:16:33 AM
How can one save YouTube material and burn it onto CDR?

There's also a download link in the description of the video - just for you guys  :angel:


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: The Heartical Don on September 29, 2014, 06:23:50 AM
How can one save YouTube material and burn it onto CDR?

There's also a download link in the description of the video - just for you guys  :angel:

Cheers for that! Done.


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: Woodstock on September 29, 2014, 09:21:20 AM
I'm happy you liked it enough to burn it to a CD  :thumbsup


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: joshferrell on September 29, 2014, 07:14:15 PM
Haven't heard Dennis "ecology" before... the source?
wow it sounds like "Come sail away" by Styx  :o 


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: Woodstock on December 04, 2014, 04:22:23 PM
Haven't heard Dennis "ecology" before... the source?

The tracks were cut by Dennis and printed on acetates, which I believe Desper owns - I can't recall the story clearly, but I think he ripped them to tape and that was somehow circulated.

Not sure though.


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 04, 2014, 10:52:00 PM
Well you know I hate to be a downer... but that's not "Ecology". It has, er, elements of "Ecology" in it but also sections of tracks prepared by SWD for use at an industry symposium to demonstrate quad (the closing section). The real "Ecology" rough edit starts with "All Of My Love"... or rather, the one I heard does (and the provenience of that is impeccable). What you have here is a fan 'mix'. It's a good one, but Dennis had nothing to do with the assembling thereof.

Also... that is some killer artwork. Totally stunning.  ;D


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: Woodstock on December 04, 2014, 11:51:06 PM
Well you know I hate to be a downer... but that's not "Ecology". It has, er, elements of "Ecology" in it but also sections of tracks prepared by SWD for use at an industry symposium to demonstrate quad (the closing section). The real "Ecology" rough edit starts with "All Of My Love"... or rather, the one I heard does (and the provenience of that is impeccable). What you have here is a fan 'mix'. It's a good one, but Dennis had nothing to do with the assembling thereof.

100% true. I should have mentioned that to begin with  :P
Thanks for the info about the origins of the track(s).

Also... that is some killer artwork. Totally stunning.  ;D

The artwork Judd made for the next one is even better! I'll post new edit/artwork sometime in the next 3 weeks.


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: Sie W on December 08, 2014, 08:51:48 PM
Got this on now.... Real nice work. Thank you Si.


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: Woodstock on July 26, 2015, 09:23:55 AM
Reuploaded at this address:

https://vimeo.com/134540323


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: elnombre on July 26, 2015, 10:09:03 AM
Loved Hawthorne Sunset - definitely looking forward to checking this one out later. You do amazing work OP!


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: Sam_BFC on July 26, 2015, 11:11:13 AM
Fab work!

What song is that at around 50 mins and just after? (Excuse my ignorance, I don't really have much of a habit of seeking out unofficial material)...I definitely know where The Explorers Club got their inspiration for their song 'Carry Me' from now.


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: Stephen W. Desper on July 26, 2015, 02:01:17 PM
Well you know I hate to be a downer... but that's not "Ecology". It has, er, elements of "Ecology" in it but also sections of tracks prepared by SWD for use at an industry symposium to demonstrate quad (the closing section).

COMMENT:
What I've heard of this "industrial tape" was a bootleg recording done with an audience microphone at the symposium at the time I presented a paper. It was to the Audio Engineering Society, Hollywood USA section. Dennis Wilson & Daryl Dragon assisted me with the musical portion of the presentation on methods of recording pianos, vocals, etc. in quadraphonic sound. I needed material that illustrated some techniques to engineers who were at that time just beginning to get involved in quad. Since I'd been experimenting with it for several years prior to it becoming a popular medium, the society ask me to enlighten them. The two D's were working together on some musical ideas, not developed yet, so we used those songs-in-progress as the genesis of the demonstration. Since Capitol Records was a supporter of AES and with Beach Boy influence, I was able to use Capitol Studio's equipment at the Tower for the mixdown at no cost. (egads - those were the days!)  I'm looking at the 4-track tape master right now. Some day I'll issue a study-video of it and run the back two channels through the matrix for a four to two fold-down. However that will be hard to do because the master tape is on 1/2 inch tape at 30 IPS. It was recorded on Agfa-Gevaert tape, an expensive tape imported from Germany that I liked to use for masters and multi-tracks. It had better signal-to-noise performance than anything Scotch made at the time. Since we did so many ping-pongs (copying from one track to another) it kept the hiss to a minimum. Agfa, with its pink backing, also had a superior oxide binding qualities, which has become evident through the passage of time as other Scotch brand older tapes fall apart on playback. (See link below for an Agfa tape ad in Billboard of the day.) Machines to play this type of tape are hard to find. I know for certain there are none around this part of the country. If anyone knows of such a machine, drop me an email (which you can find on my profile). Maybe someday I'll get this master transferred.
~swd

Ad in Billboard >>> https://books.google.com/books?id=xyQEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PT59&lpg=PT59&dq=agfa+gevaert+recording+tape&source=bl&ots=oZ62E4ecTW&sig=FlHuxAHErgzOj_sTnlC6kQSC1u4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCAQ6AEwAWoVChMI4MznkdH5xgIVx9KACh0PjQBz#v=onepage&q=agfa%20gevaert%20recording%20tape&f=false


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: mikeddonn on July 26, 2015, 02:16:55 PM
Excellent Stephen, thank you for the background on the music.  I've always loved those vocals on All of My Love and wondered why it was never completed.


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: Woodstock on April 27, 2016, 04:19:21 AM
Fab work!

What song is that at around 50 mins and just after?

That is a composite of the pieces that were supposed to make a Dennis Wilson song called Ecology...or something along those lines. The 'All of my Love' bit supposedly has 100 overdubs of Denny's voice. Judd stitched them together the way they are in my mix but there is no final version.


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: Cool Cool Water on April 27, 2016, 10:22:03 AM
The follow up to Symphony to God (http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,18190.0.html)

It's called Dumb Angels
https://vimeo.com/134540323

It's all rare tracks or deep cuts. If you liked StG, the idea here is the same, although this project took about a month, versus StG taking a day.

Hopefully there's something in there even a more obsessive fan hasn't heard before (Sweet and Bitter anybody?)
Rab2591 made the intro, Judd did tons of slick editing throughout the rest of it.

Enjoy!

Art by Judd
(http://i.imgur.com/GjLgoey.jpg)

Sounds great & I like the bootleg artcover as well!


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: Mr. Verlander on April 27, 2016, 10:30:02 AM
Al looks like Joe Pesci with beard!


Title: Re: Dumb Angels (Rare Song Compilation)
Post by: jiggy22 on April 27, 2016, 03:22:39 PM
What year is that profile picture of Mike from? It's so weird to see him with such a full head of hair!