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Title: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: TV Forces on May 10, 2006, 11:38:58 AM
What album was this track to be apart of?

Or was it supposed to be a b-side?


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: Jason on May 10, 2006, 11:41:56 AM
It was recorded during the Today! sessions, but left unreleased until '90 due to its rather lecherous nature.

It's a fun little track, innit?

Quick trivia - the melody of this track ended up in a section of Heroes and Villains, as I Just Got My Pay, as Marcella, and finally, in the chorus of Goin' On.


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: Fantastico! on May 10, 2006, 11:43:41 AM
Recorded for Today.

Per Craig Slowinski -

"Left out of the running for Side One of "Today!", doubtless because the lyrics were considered too "risqué" (lines like "oh - she's so fine - what a turn-on!" were probably inappropriate for teenage pop records at the time), this is a slight yet neat little rocker that displays an inventive wordless break (heard at the beginning and again later in the song), great playing from Dennis (drums) and Carl (12-string rhythm and lead guitar), and no less than four bassists (one of them Alan Jardine)! "


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: rb on May 10, 2006, 11:48:10 AM
Was it considered to have been a finished track?


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: Jason on May 10, 2006, 11:49:08 AM
Yes, it's finished.


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: Joshilyn Hoisington on May 10, 2006, 02:55:32 PM
It wasn't really mixed though, until Mark did it for the twofer, right?  So in a sense, it wasn't entirely finished.


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: Jason on May 10, 2006, 02:58:26 PM
Well if you wanna be fuckin' picky, sure it was "unfinished", but what was there was certainly finished.


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: Reverend Joshua Sloane on May 10, 2006, 03:16:20 PM
fucking picky facts need to be.


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: Alan Boyd on May 10, 2006, 04:14:32 PM
There's an unreleased vintage Brian Wilson mono mix in the vaults, with some handclaps and vocal overdubs added during the mixdown.



Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: Joshilyn Hoisington on May 10, 2006, 04:32:53 PM
Was Mark's mix just for the sake of having it released in stereo, or had that mono mix not been found at that point?


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: Ebb and Flow on May 10, 2006, 05:58:50 PM
Recorded for Today.

Per Craig Slowinski -

"Left out of the running for Side One of "Today!", doubtless because the lyrics were considered too "risqué" (lines like "oh - she's so fine - what a turn-on!" were probably inappropriate for teenage pop records at the time), this is a slight yet neat little rocker that displays an inventive wordless break (heard at the beginning and again later in the song), great playing from Dennis (drums) and Carl (12-string rhythm and lead guitar), and no less than four bassists (one of them Alan Jardine)! "


I think this is a nice little parallel to the Beatles facing a similar challenge on "A Day In The Life" with the lyric "I'd Love to turn...you...on", causing it to be banned by the BBC.  Though Brian had even more reason not to release it because of the climate in 1964 vs. 1967.  Still, pretty interesting.

And that mono mix is exactly the sort of thing that shouldn't be languishing in vaults.  I wonder what the vocal overdubs are, for a song already covered in vocals?


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: MBE on May 10, 2006, 07:37:35 PM
Goof vocal by Carl, man why don't the people who do reissues realise that we wanna hear what Brian did not what they do mix wise.  Mono is cool and if they have to do stereo at least release it both ways. If they could do it then they could do it now. AND PUT IT ALL ON VINYL!!!


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: Billgoodman on May 11, 2006, 12:19:49 AM
if it was recorded for the Today sessions
why is it an extra track on All Summer Long twofer?
Rewriting history?

I suppose it's because there already were cool bonus tracks for Today! and Little Deuce Coupe/All Summer Long
could still use a good track. And the BB were constantly making albums anyway. Still as a soon to be historian I would like to see a Today session track on a Today reissue.


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: Andreas on May 11, 2006, 04:12:51 AM
There's an unreleased vintage Brian Wilson mono mix in the vaults, with some handclaps and vocal overdubs added during the mixdown.


Wow. I really would like to hear that. Why on earth has this been unreleased so far?


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: TV Forces on May 11, 2006, 09:15:22 AM
if it was recorded for the Today sessions
why is it an extra track on All Summer Long twofer?
Rewriting history?

It's not.
It's on the Today/Summer Nights twofer.


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: Cabana Boy on May 11, 2006, 09:18:20 AM
It's on the Today/Summer Nights twofer.
Not on mine it's not.


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: Cabana Boy on May 11, 2006, 09:37:41 AM
if it was recorded for the Today sessions
why is it an extra track on All Summer Long twofer?
Rewriting history?
Tracking on some '...Today!' songs began before 'All Summer Long' was even released, but the sessions didn't really start to gather pace 'til the first month of '65. That's when the album took shape.

I wouldn't call 'ADUFS' (a doofus, haha!) a 'Today' out-take. It's probably best considered as some kind of a bridge between the 2 albums. That - plus it's obviously having more in common musically with the 'Shut Down Vol. 2'/'All Summer Long' material - probably accounts for it's inclusion on the earlier 2fer.


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: c-man on May 11, 2006, 10:48:22 AM
if it was recorded for the Today sessions
why is it an extra track on All Summer Long twofer?
Rewriting history?

It's not.
It's on the Today/Summer Nights twofer.

No it's not.  It's on the "LDC"/"ASL" twofer.
It was recorded in September '64, a full two months after "All Summer Long" was already released, but it's there as a bonus cut anyway. 


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: Jason Penick on May 11, 2006, 06:38:19 PM
Well if you look at the bonus tracks on the LDC/ ASL 2fer, with the exception of "All Dressed Up for School" they're all alternate versions.  The PTB already had "Graduation Day" lined up for Today!/ SD(ASN!!), so I'm guessing they added "ADUFS" to the former to bolster the value of that collection (as they also did by flip-flopping LDC and SDV2 chronologically to insure that none of the 2fers contained duplicate tracks).


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: rb on May 12, 2006, 07:47:54 AM
So, it has been determined that the version most of us are familiar with is not the finished version. The date of it's recording has also been established. This would place it on Today!, if it was to be used on that album. A few questions:

Is the contention that it was unreleased because of the language and lyrical content a true one? I mean, has it been verified?

Could it have made the cut? Would it have fit on Today!? The productions on that album were a little more fleshed-out and full-blown than that of the ADUFS we are familiar with, vocals notwithstanding.  (Maybe Alan Boyd can give some insight into this.)

Better still, what would it have replaced? Maybe 'Help Me, Ronda'. It definitely doesn't have the snapiness of the rest of side 1. Otherwise, I can't really see dropping any of the existing tracks in its favour, as good as it is.


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: Cabana Boy on May 12, 2006, 10:34:36 AM
'Today!' wasn't really underway by the time '...School' was tracked. Work had been done on a couple of the tunes that wound up on the album, but no definite tenor had been established.
I think the song was just written, tracked and left. It's being kind of a stylistic retrenchment (compared to where Brian was heading) is probably what contributed to it's non-release, as much as anything. They could always have re-written the words if they'd wanted to put it out bad enough.

Can't see that it was, or ever would have been, a candidate for inclusion on that album.


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: TV Forces on May 12, 2006, 11:22:37 AM
It's on the Today/Summer Nights twofer.
Not on mine it's not.

You're right.  I was mistaken on that.  Sorry.
I wrongly assumed it was because it was during those sessions.


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: TV Forces on May 12, 2006, 11:25:11 AM
Better still, what would it have replaced? Maybe 'Help Me, Ronda'. It definitely doesn't have the snapiness of the rest of side 1. Otherwise, I can't really see dropping any of the exsiting tracks in its favour, as good as it is.

I wouldn't miss the interview track 12.


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: rb on May 12, 2006, 01:16:40 PM
I wouldn't miss the interview track 12.

Me neither, but All Dressed would not have fit on Side 2. Would have destroyed the rock side/mature side concept. Better, perhaps, to have a piece of totally unrelated filler at the end.

Of course, there's always the possibility that Brian wanted to make the 20 minute version of Bull Session, Side 2, but Capitol nixed the idea, thus forcing him to record all that other crap.


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: rb on May 12, 2006, 01:27:35 PM
'Today!' wasn't really underway by the time '...School' was tracked. Work had been done on a couple of the tunes that wound up on the album, but no definite tenor had been established.
I think the song was just written, tracked and left. It's being kind of a stylistic retrenchment (compared to where Brian was heading) is probably what contributed to it's non-release, as much as anything. They could always have re-written the words if they'd wanted to put it out bad enough.

Can't see that it was, or ever would have been, a candidate for inclusion on that album.

Makes sense to me.


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: Surfer Joe on May 12, 2006, 05:46:05 PM
I wouldn't miss the interview track 12.

Me neither, but All Dressed would not have fit on Side 2. Would have destroyed the rock side/mature side concept. Better, perhaps, to have a piece of totally unrelated filler at the end.

Of course, there's always the possibility that Brian wanted to make the 20 minute version of Bull Session, Side 2, but Capitol nixed the idea, thus forcing him to record all that other crap.

I'm not  sure "All Dressed Up" was more immature than "Bull Session With Big Daddy".  Of course, a rematch between Sonny Wilson and Cassius Love would have been really immature.

Here's my lineup for a themed "immature" side: "All Dressed Up", "Chug-A-Lug", "I'm Bugged At My Ol' Man", "I'd Love Just Once To See You", Honeys "Hemorrhoids" joke/"George Fell Into His French Horn", "Amusement Parks, USA", " 'Cassius' Love Vs. 'Sonny' Wilson", "Swedish Frog", "Chipmunk Song".  That'd be an ugly listening experience  for anyone older than ten.


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: CenturyDeprived on July 31, 2016, 07:49:01 AM
After all this time, I finally made the connection that this song was not the first BB song with "turn-on" lyrics... "The Shift" with it's repeating part "turns me on now" has ADUFS beat by two years.  And both songs are about women's clothes that turn the guy on. Makes even less sense now that this would have been considered too "risqué" for release, seeing as they'd already released similar lyrics on a previous album.


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: JK on July 31, 2016, 07:57:15 AM
After all this time, I finally made the connection that this song was not the first BB song with "turn-on" lyrics... "The Shift" with it's repeating part "turns me on now" has ADUFS beat by two years.  And both songs are about women's clothes that turn the guy on. Makes even less sense now that this would have been considered too "risqué" for release, seeing as they'd already released similar lyrics on a previous album.

Similar lyrics, different situation. "ADUFS" was about a girl of school age on her way to school. "The Shift" was about a young woman on a date----no problem there. My two eurocents...


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: hideyotsuburaya on August 01, 2016, 08:27:54 AM
a few posts ago mention was made of a mono mixed version of ADUFS with added hand-claps that aren't present on the stereo mix made by Mark Linnett for the two-fer bonus track, where the song debuted

yes that mono mix can be considered the original 'finished' version, but everyone here's forgetting the obvious - the mono ADUFS mix (w/ handclaps) WAS released (officially) about 8 years ago as a track in the Beach Boys Singles Collection set of 16 CD's

I like that set because it also contains a terrific stereo mix of DO YOU WANNA DANCE also not present elsewhere.  It's (mostly) the instrumental backing track and comes across with terrific power--far and away the best demonstration of Brian Wilson's Wall Of Sound.  The vocals are turned up and in for the songs ending

ADUFS contains the 1st appearance of what I term the 'Brian Wilson (sung) Scale' - 9 notes:  D, F#, G, G#, A, A#, B, C#, D.  Which he also put into the Heroes & Villains sessions and later GOIN' ON


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: JK on August 01, 2016, 10:14:00 AM
ADUFS contains the 1st appearance of what I term the 'Brian Wilson (sung) Scale' - 9 notes:  D, F#, G, G#, A, A#, B, C#, D.  Which he also put into the Heroes & Villains sessions and later GOIN' ON

Yes indeed, with its descending counterpart in the bass: D, C, B, A#, A, G#, G, E, D. I love that drop of a minor 3rd from G to E----pure magic!     


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: Les P on August 02, 2016, 03:53:00 PM
a few posts ago mention was made of a mono mixed version of ADUFS with added hand-claps that aren't present on the stereo mix made by Mark Linnett for the two-fer bonus track, where the song debuted

yes that mono mix can be considered the original 'finished' version, but everyone here's forgetting the obvious - the mono ADUFS mix (w/ handclaps) WAS released (officially) about 8 years ago as a track in the Beach Boys Singles Collection set of 16 CD's

I assume this is the same mono mix as on Made in California.  But maybe Alan Boyd is referring to a different mono mix that is still unreleased.


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: MikestheGreatest!! on August 02, 2016, 05:18:49 PM
All Dressed Up is right up there in lyrical creepiness with Hey Little Tomboy....quite understandable why it was not released in its day....


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: CenturyDeprived on August 02, 2016, 05:26:16 PM
All Dressed Up is right up there in lyrical creepiness with Hey Little Tomboy....quite understandable why it was not released in its day....

Not really... considering that All Dressed Up was sung by a teenager who was still 17 at the time, still high school age. It can't be *that* creepy hearing a high school guy checking out a high school gal. Granted, guys in their 20s are singing backing vocals on the song, especially on the "turn on" part  :lol

Come to think of it, maybe Carl's youth was the main reason why he was picked to be the singer of that tune (to sound less creepy).

Hey Little Tomboy is much worse considering it's sung by guys in their mid-thirties, and it's very specifically about deliberately having/encouraging a girl go from being a non-sexual object to being a sexual object.


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: Please delete my account on August 03, 2016, 01:25:37 AM
a few posts ago mention was made of a mono mixed version of ADUFS with added hand-claps that aren't present on the stereo mix made by Mark Linnett for the two-fer bonus track, where the song debuted

A "few posts" ago, but nonetheless ten years ago, before either the singles collection or Made in California.


Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: Custom Machine on August 03, 2016, 01:32:00 AM

All Dressed Up is right up there in lyrical creepiness with Hey Little Tomboy....quite understandable why it was not released in its day....


Not really... considering that All Dressed Up was sung by a teenager who was still 17 at the time, still high school age. It can't be *that* creepy hearing a high school guy checking out a high school gal. Granted, guys in their 20s are singing backing vocals on the song, especially on the "turn on" part  :lol

Come to think of it, maybe Carl's youth was the main reason why he was picked to be the singer of that tune (to sound less creepy).

Hey Little Tomboy is much worse considering it's sung by guys in their mid-thirties, and it's very specifically about deliberately having/encouraging a girl go from being a non-sexual object to being a sexual object.


Right on, Brown!

Edit: Sorry for the dated Cheech and Chong reference above. What I meat to convey, with "Right on, Brown!" is that I completely agree with Century Deprived's analysis.



Title: Re: All Dressed Up For School
Post by: JK on August 03, 2016, 02:45:49 AM
Granted, guys in their 20s are singing backing vocals on the song, especially on the "turn on" part

 :lol :lol :lol