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Title: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on May 13, 2014, 04:15:20 PM
Like most or all of us, I've got some pet peeves. I'm not claiming I'm better than the people who do these things--though let's be serious, I probably am*--just that these are things that, for whatever reason, grate on me. This is where I'll share some of those related to this board. Feel free to do the same. Specifically, feel free to say I'm your pet peeve, etc., since that would be an obvious response to this post (though seriously, I am not judging the people in any way, rather just noting that my mindset is such that I'm driven crazy sometimes, however much I wish I weren't). I'm not honestly this big an asshole, let's do this in fun.

Overuse or inappropriate use of ellipses, especially in place of periods in regular, declarative sentences.
Over- or inappropriate capitalization, such as when people Capitalize Nouns and Verbs, as if there were some rule about capitalizing Important Words.
Posts responding to quotes that somehow end up embedded within a quote.
The thread title "Name One Song You'd Wish the Beach Boys Should Have Covered"
"Opinions" that are blatant quotes or paraphrases of BBs documentaries, books, or cliches.

Some that are unrelated to the board? Why, sure! How about:

People responding to someone's statement with "right!?"
Responding to a question like "how are you?" with the day of the week. "It's Monday," or "It's Friday."
The arrogance leading people to confuse personal preference about or knowledge of a subject with the quality of the subject. (A dismissive "I've never even heard of [XYZ]," as if that mattered.)


*Yes, I'm kidding. More or less.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on May 14, 2014, 06:47:55 AM
Grammatically, I used to hold an opinion that schoolteachers must write everything correctly & that there should be no excuse like rushing, absent-mindedness etc. So, needless to say, I made sure to correct every teacher who made mistakes in front of all the students shouting, "Hey, you forgot "i" in the word "ability!"/"Hey, you've written triple "j" in the word "J7!" etc. Usually, my fellow students would sizzle at me silently, hinting at my disrespectful attitude. Usually, I never cared. Besides, the use of Oxford comma is quite redundant imo; we, Russians, don't use the comma before "and" in enumeration of adjectives, nouns, verbs & so on. It doesn't bother me too much, but I surely don't get it.
The general stuff later.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: filledeplage on May 14, 2014, 07:39:57 AM
Grammatically, I used to hold an opinion that schoolteachers must write everything correctly & that there should be no excuse like rushing, absent-mindedness etc. So, needless to say, I made sure to correct every teacher who made mistakes in front of all the students shouting, "Hey, you forgot "i" in the word "ability!"/"Hey, you've written triple "j" in the word "J7!" etc. Usually, my fellow students would sizzle at me silently, hinting at my disrespectful attitude. Usually, I never cared. Besides, the use of Oxford comma is quite redundant imo; we, Russians, don't use the comma before "and" in enumeration of adjectives, nouns, verbs & so on. It doesn't bother me too much, but I surely don't get it.
The general stuff later.
Teachers aren't perfect, either.  And, language "evolves" so we have new words in our communication domain.  That said, I am SO grateful to have a place to discuss this vast music.  It is what many "contemporaries" would have loved back-in-the-day.  What I think is important, here is the "message" and not the "form." It tends to make people, such as those who "lurk" and are intimidated by the high knowledge level of others in the "dignitary" category, afraid to post, and that reduces the level of discussion because people get caught up in grammar or spelling. Should we be turning off people with good ideas?

Those who have taught writing (as I have) to young people have to fight the "writers block" and fear and just drag ideas out of students.  It is the great ideas that often get lost in the form of grammar and spelling.  After jotting down a few ideas, however, a little spell-check might be in order.  I'm more bothered by unkindness and disrespect.  Lots of geniuses could not write to save their lives, or were dyslexic and could/can orally express what they can't reduce to a writing.  JMHO  ;)

This place is just for fun. 




Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Please delete my account on May 14, 2014, 02:47:36 PM
The word "iconic"


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: halblaineisgood on May 14, 2014, 04:01:36 PM

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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: halblaineisgood on May 14, 2014, 04:20:46 PM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Ovi on May 19, 2014, 11:55:49 AM
People who write their name at the end of each post, especially when their username is also that name.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Gabo on May 19, 2014, 07:10:33 PM
"Where you at?"  vs. "Where are you" is probably my biggest pet peeve


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Gertie J. on May 19, 2014, 07:17:22 PM
could of/would of/should of  ::)


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Mikie on May 19, 2014, 07:59:27 PM
Worst Pet Peeves:

1. Any verbal exclamation or written sentence with the overused word "amazing" in it.
2. Any verbal exclamation or written sentence with the overused word "awesome" in it.
3. Use of the non-word "alot" in a written sentence.

Also-rans:

1. Incorrect application/misspelling of "their", "there", "they're" in a sentence.
2. Incorrect application/misspelling of "your" and "you're" in a sentence.
3. "Oh My God" or OMG. That's worse than "LOL". "Seriously dude, like, that's ridiculous. Whatever - that's so gay."


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: DrZombi on May 22, 2014, 07:59:55 PM
"I listen to everything except country and rap"


^ It's such a pet peeve of mine when people say that


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: retrokid67 on May 22, 2014, 09:53:34 PM
when people overuse the word "swag"  ::)  I saw an Ihop commercial awhile back and this guy said "this (food) has swag."  ???


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: alf wiedersehen on May 23, 2014, 07:10:11 PM
"I listen to everything except country and rap"


^ It's such a pet peeve of mine when people say that

That's one of mine, too! It's like everyone was just trained to say that, it's so odd.
Once, I met a guy who told me that he "only listens to country and rap."


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on June 20, 2014, 09:59:30 PM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: retrokid67 on June 21, 2014, 09:02:13 AM
when people clap to get their point across in an argument... ::)


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on June 21, 2014, 09:25:19 AM
Religeous people.......

ummm..... everyone has the truth, problem is every religion has a different version of it...

and some religions put God as more important than 'Love'......

but isn't God suppost to be about 'Love'???

ttthhhiiinnnnkkkk aaaabbbooouuutttt iiiittttttt?

why can't we all just get along  :-\

RickB (just for Ovi)




Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: halblaineisgood on June 21, 2014, 01:28:18 PM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on June 21, 2014, 01:30:41 PM
uh huh..... seems I have a bite...... one religious f*cker that took the bait.

RickB  >:D


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Please delete my account on August 23, 2014, 08:18:05 AM
Why do people say; "it's not that good OF a song" or "It's that good OF an album " (my emphasis)? What purpose does the word "of" have in these sentences? Why not just "It's not that good a song"?

I also don't think "alternate" is properly a synonym for "alternative" but I guess that battle is well and truly lost.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Orange Crate Art on August 23, 2014, 11:09:35 AM
Bumper stickers. Hate 'em. I don't care if your kid is an honor student, or if your kid beat up my honor student, or if you hate Obama, or if you think it's funny that Calvin pisses on a certain baseball team's logo, what religion you are, what (un)clever phrases you're amused by...I just care that you drive safe.

Also I hate the phrase "not for nothing". People in New England say it a lot. Example: "I went to Applebee's for lunch today, and not for nothing but they over-cooked my steak."


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on August 23, 2014, 11:31:12 AM
Why do people say; "it's not that good OF a song" or "It's that good OF an album " (my emphasis)? What purpose does the word "of" have in these sentences? Why not just "It's not that good a song"?

I believe that is taken from Latin, as a use of the genitive case. It is somewhat awkward in English, though, isn't it? What it means is, "this album [among others] isn't very good." The point is that it is one from among a bigger group. But it seems unnecessary.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on August 23, 2014, 11:31:34 AM
Bumper stickers. Hate 'em. I don't care if your kid is an honor student, or if your kid beat up my honor student, or if you hate Obama, or if you think it's funny that Calvin pisses on a certain baseball team's logo, what religion you are, what (un)clever phrases you're amused by...I just care that you drive safe.

Agree.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: bgas on August 23, 2014, 02:13:03 PM
Bumper stickers. Hate 'em. I don't care if your kid is an honor student, or if your kid beat up my honor student, or if you hate Obama, or if you think it's funny that Calvin pisses on a certain baseball team's logo, what religion you are, what (un)clever phrases you're amused by...I just care that you drive safe.

Agree.

But What if they're Brian Wilson bumper stickers?


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Orange Crate Art on August 23, 2014, 02:28:27 PM
Bumper stickers. Hate 'em. I don't care if your kid is an honor student, or if your kid beat up my honor student, or if you hate Obama, or if you think it's funny that Calvin pisses on a certain baseball team's logo, what religion you are, what (un)clever phrases you're amused by...I just care that you drive safe.

Agree.

But What if they're Brian Wilson bumper stickers?

Why waste it by putting it on your car? Put it on your guitar case or save it in your Beach Boys Scrapbook. What a waste...decorating your automobile with stickers.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: bluesno1fann on August 23, 2014, 02:55:51 PM
People who write their name at the end of each post, especially when their username is also that name.

Completely agreed.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Mendota Heights on August 23, 2014, 02:57:46 PM
People who write their name at the end of each post, especially when their username is also that name.

Completely agreed.

Totally agree. Or "Cheers" and stuff like that.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on August 25, 2014, 10:59:05 PM
Some posters inexplicably seem to uppercase the usernames. For example, Bgas, Pixletwin, Guitarfool2002, Hypehat. It's like they try to show some kind of a respect towards them, accentuate the dignity or whatever it's called. Well, if the guys opted for lowercase letters, why not stick to them? It doesn't mean you diminish bgas or pixletwin in any way because... it's how their usernames are written & identified on the board.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on August 26, 2014, 08:01:49 PM
When people say "and again" when introducing something that has yet to be said. It's only in the past year or so I've noticed this, and it turns out it happens very, very often. I think it might be something done to take the place of "uh" or "um," but is just as bad, if not worse, since it doesn't just add nonsense, filler syllables, but adds inaccuracy to the statement.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Cyncie on August 26, 2014, 08:26:28 PM
"theses ones." Especially irritating when uttered by professional news or weather casters who should know better.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Mr. Verlander on August 27, 2014, 03:43:35 AM
In texts, people actually write the word 'Prolly', which is short for 'probably'. The problem is, 'prolly' isn't a word.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Orange Crate Art on August 27, 2014, 11:09:58 AM
In texts, people actually write the word 'Prolly', which is short for 'probably'. The problem is, 'prolly' isn't a word.

Agreed. Somebody once texted me 'prolly'. My response was 'who's Prolly?'.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Mendota Heights on August 27, 2014, 11:36:37 AM
(http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/aOymx5R_460sa_v1.gif)


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Fire Wind on August 27, 2014, 01:23:13 PM
People quoting a post on message boards and saying 'This'.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Mendota Heights on August 27, 2014, 02:14:07 PM
People quoting a post on message boards and saying 'This'.

(http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i425/Zanglesmarieschreurs/Glee/C_C/this-Kurt.jpg)


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on August 27, 2014, 10:49:19 PM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Mr. Verlander on August 28, 2014, 01:26:44 PM
In texts, people actually write the word 'Prolly', which is short for 'probably'. The problem is, 'prolly' isn't a word.
Tell this to punkinhead.

He prolly wouldn't get it.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Heysaboda on August 28, 2014, 03:43:30 PM
Some posters inexplicably seem to uppercase the usernames. For example, Bgas, Pixletwin, Guitarfool2002, Hypehat. It's like they try to show some kind of a respect towards them, accentuate the dignity or whatever it's called. Well, if the guys opted for lowercase letters, why not stick to them? It doesn't mean you diminish bgas or pixletwin in any way because... it's how their usernames are written & identified on the board.

SMiLe-ified:

bGas, piXLetWin, gUItaRfOOl2002, hYPeHat

My work here is done.....  :afro


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: SMiLE Brian on August 28, 2014, 04:03:59 PM
Brilliant!!!!! :lol :lol :lol


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Mikie on August 28, 2014, 04:09:37 PM
People quoting a post on message boards and saying 'This'.

Yeah, what's up with that??

Or posters who acknowledge somebody's post with "Post of the year!" or "Best post on the board ever!" or "All-time best post!" And I'm almost always thinking to myself, "No it isn't." I can find a better post than that without even having to read another thread!!


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: 18thofMay on August 28, 2014, 04:52:42 PM
In texts, people actually write the word 'Prolly', which is short for 'probably'. The problem is, 'prolly' isn't a word.
Tell this to punkinhead.

He prolly wouldn't get it.
^THIS^


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: rab2591 on August 28, 2014, 06:10:38 PM
In texts, people actually write the word 'Prolly', which is short for 'probably'. The problem is, 'prolly' isn't a word.
Tell this to punkinhead.

He prolly wouldn't get it.
^THIS^

Quote
This Thread is fairly iconic. Alot of the time, when I visit this Thread, it is full of Swag. That's awesome and amazing. It could of been better though.

And again, I should probably go put this Bumper Sticker on the back of my Car. I prolly do that now.

Cheers
-Rab2591



Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Mendota Heights on August 28, 2014, 11:54:22 PM
In texts, people actually write the word 'Prolly', which is short for 'probably'. The problem is, 'prolly' isn't a word.
Tell this to punkinhead.

He prolly wouldn't get it.
^THIS^

Quote
This Thread is fairly iconic. Alot of the time, when I visit this Thread, it is full of Swag. That's awesome and amazing. It could of been better though.

And again, I should probably go put this Bumper Sticker on the back of my Car. I prolly do that now.

Cheers
-Rab2591


(http://s16.postimg.org/6oal1z8v9/IMG_20140827_WA0006.jpg)


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Mr. Verlander on August 29, 2014, 06:23:23 AM
I hate how things are labeled as 'conversations', like emails or texts. 'Are you sure you want to delete this conversation?'. Technically, I guess they are conversations, although I consider a conversation to take place person to person, not electronically.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Ovi on August 29, 2014, 06:32:29 AM
Where do you draw the line between a pet peeve and a thing you plainly dislike?


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Mendota Heights on August 29, 2014, 09:23:55 AM
Where do you draw the line between a pet peeve and a thing you plainly dislike?

You dislike murder, violence, child labor, Looking Back With Love, injustice etc.



Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: SMiLE Brian on August 29, 2014, 10:17:04 AM
 :lol


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on August 31, 2014, 04:24:55 AM
Some posters inexplicably seem to uppercase the usernames. For example, Bgas, Pixletwin, Guitarfool2002, Hypehat. It's like they try to show some kind of a respect towards them, accentuate the dignity or whatever it's called. Well, if the guys opted for lowercase letters, why not stick to them? It doesn't mean you diminish bgas or pixletwin in any way because... it's how their usernames are written & identified on the board.

Pet peeves ?  Twaddle like this.  ;D


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: alf wiedersehen on September 22, 2014, 06:39:54 PM
When people say something about their 'faith in humainity'...
That's become a big pet peeve of mine.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Mendota Heights on September 23, 2014, 10:22:35 AM
When people say something about their 'faith in humainity'...
That's become a big pet peeve of mine.

I agree. "Faith in humanity restored" is annoying.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on September 23, 2014, 08:54:28 PM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on September 25, 2014, 11:24:44 AM
Nope, entirely intentional and, may I say, equally entirely merited.  :-D


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Mr. Verlander on September 25, 2014, 12:48:56 PM
+1


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on September 25, 2014, 11:41:25 PM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: halblaineisgood on September 26, 2014, 05:02:47 AM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Bean Bag on September 27, 2014, 08:05:36 PM
Well said!  For what is Faith in anything without aversion?

It ain't faith to begin with... it's fairweather-friends.  Opportunism.  


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on September 28, 2014, 10:59:14 AM
A small bug--spider-like, I guess, but really tiny--may have just crawled into one of the holes in my phone. The power jack I guess. I'm not sure. A one-time occurrence probably isn't a pet peeve, but suffice to say if this is the way insects (or arachnids, to be more accurate) intend to behave henceforth, this will certainly become a pet peeve of mine.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: bgas on September 28, 2014, 05:06:26 PM
A small bug--spider-like, I guess, but really tiny--may have just crawled into one of the holes in my phone. The power jack I guess. I'm not sure. A one-time occurrence probably isn't a pet peeve, but suffice to say if this is the way insects (or arachnids, to be more accurate) intend to behave henceforth, this will certainly become a pet peeve of mine.

Probably just one of Khan's brain worms; try not to think about it...


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Bean Bag on September 28, 2014, 09:05:44 PM
A small bug--spider-like, I guess, but really tiny--may have just crawled into one of the holes in my phone. The power jack I guess. I'm not sure. A one-time occurrence probably isn't a pet peeve, but suffice to say if this is the way insects (or arachnids, to be more accurate) intend to behave henceforth, this will certainly become a pet peeve of mine.

My first order as President of Earth is to dump enough mega tons of DDT or whatever on the planet to permanently eradicate all insect life -- except for butterflies and honey bees.

 :smokin


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on September 28, 2014, 09:20:15 PM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Bean Bag on September 29, 2014, 09:34:39 PM
Ladybugs can stay.  So too can grasshoppers, those are cool.  And crickets.  Crickets put me to sleep.

It's amazing how short the list is.  Out of 2 zillion species, there's only a handful that are worth keeping.  Insects are truly awful, awful things.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Bean Bag on September 29, 2014, 09:39:12 PM
I'd like modern science to admit there exists a gravitational force that pulls things that I drop on the kitchen floor, underneath my stove.  Always under my stove.

It's time to declassify that sh-t.  We need to know.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on September 30, 2014, 07:24:08 AM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on October 01, 2014, 03:23:39 AM
Anyone who says "axed" when they mean "asked" should be eliminated where they stand. Preferably slowly and extremely painfully. Same goes for anyone who pronounces "nuclear" as "new-kew-lar", but more slowly and painfully.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on October 01, 2014, 03:39:19 AM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on October 02, 2014, 09:18:35 AM
The expression "the truth is somewhere in the middle." I don't have a problem with the people who use the expression, because it's so pervasive, but it's also largely untrue and so frequently (but largely unintentionally) damaging.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Ovi on October 05, 2014, 11:19:20 PM
"Good music". People answering with that when you ask them what kind of music do they listen to.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: halblaineisgood on October 06, 2014, 05:28:06 AM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on October 07, 2014, 09:21:21 PM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Summer_Days on October 13, 2014, 08:32:17 AM
Misuse of apostrophes. Or apostrophe's, as many would write it. I hate that.

(http://davelearningstuff.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/apostrophe-misuse.jpg)
Wrong!

(http://midnightopheliac.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/3001324704_789d8c563d_z.jpg)
Wrong!


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: bgas on October 13, 2014, 09:10:43 AM
Misuse of apostrophes. Or apostrophe's, as many would write it. I hate that.

(http://davelearningstuff.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/apostrophe-misuse.jpg)
Wrong!

(http://midnightopheliac.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/3001324704_789d8c563d_z.jpg)
Wrong!

I don't see any apostrophes in the second pic


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Summer_Days on October 13, 2014, 09:21:13 AM

I don't see any apostrophes in the second pic


Exactly. Shouldn't it be 'Caesar's Palace'?


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Bean Bag on October 23, 2014, 12:43:52 PM
What's up with "back in the day."  I wouldn't call it a Pet Peeve or anything... I just don't get why people accept something they know is silly and use it.  Does it help them they feel like they belong -- belong in an increasingly stupid, backwards evolving society?

(http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/idiocracy.jpg)

Shouldn't it be "back in the good old days."  That's what people used to say, I believe.  As in... "back in the good old days, we said sh-t like 'back in the good old days.'  We just used good language, so people could understand what we meant."

How 'bout back in the night?  Does that work?  "That's how we used to do it back in the night.  B-tches."

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-p9F9Ckxy5E0/T2S9HjP7PrI/AAAAAAAABjQ/ikFAmJJWT5M/s1600/The_Perfect_Nighttime_Sky_by_tome_chan.jpeg)


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: halblaineisgood on October 23, 2014, 02:03:50 PM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Mendota Heights on October 23, 2014, 02:45:19 PM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on October 23, 2014, 03:18:45 PM
What's up with "back in the day."  I wouldn't call it a Pet Peeve or anything... I just don't get why people accept something they know is silly and use it.  Does it help them they feel like they belong -- belong in an increasingly stupid, backwards evolving society?


Shouldn't it be "back in the good old days."  That's what people used to say, I believe.  As in... "back in the good old days, we said sh-t like 'back in the good old days.'  We just used good language, so people could understand what we meant."

How 'bout back in the night?  Does that work?  "That's how we used to do it back in the night.  B-tches."


I think everyone is always annoyed at everyone else's slang. Slang is always stupid (except to whoever uses it). New, old, whatever.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Bean Bag on October 24, 2014, 08:55:02 PM
I think everyone is always annoyed at everyone else's slang. Slang is always stupid (except to whoever uses it). New, old, whatever.

I recognize slang.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on October 25, 2014, 08:15:11 AM
I think everyone is always annoyed at everyone else's slang. Slang is always stupid (except to whoever uses it). New, old, whatever.

I recognize slang.

Congratulations.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on October 26, 2014, 11:05:38 PM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: LostArt on October 27, 2014, 11:12:30 AM
The apostrophe thing gets me, too.  And the 'axe' thing.  And people who write m' kay.

These are some that I hear all the time in east central Wisconsin.  Maybe a regional thing, but I'm curious if anybody else hears these:

People who pronounce Chipotle as Chipolte.
People who say Valentimes Day.
People who refer to their driver's license as if it were a plural thing, e.g. ("Did you get your driver's license, Julie?" "Yes, I got them this morning").  Huh?
People who tell me that they're going to the Packer game.  What, only one of them is going to be playing?

This final one is just me, I'm sure, because almost everyone (except me, it seems) uses the word gig when talking about a concert that they've seen.  As I was growing up, though, a gig was a job.  ("I landed a new gig at the electronics factory.")  Now, if you are musician, a gig could be a concert if you were playing there for money.  ("My band scored a nice gig for next Friday at the Sonova Beach Club.  We'll make $200 each.")  I don't know when the meaning of the word changed, but it took me by surprise.  
:old

That's enough rant from me.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: bgas on October 27, 2014, 03:16:55 PM
The apostrophe thing gets me, too.  And the 'axe' thing.  And people who write m' kay.

These are some that I hear all the time in east central Wisconsin.  Maybe a regional thing, but I'm curious if anybody else hears these:

People who pronounce Chipotle as Chipolte.


 I don't think I've ever heard it pronounced anything but Chipolte !!  (I don't get it)


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: LostArt on October 28, 2014, 05:19:57 AM
The apostrophe thing gets me, too.  And the 'axe' thing.  And people who write m' kay.

These are some that I hear all the time in east central Wisconsin.  Maybe a regional thing, but I'm curious if anybody else hears these:

People who pronounce Chipotle as Chipolte.


 I don't think I've ever heard it pronounced anything but Chipolte !!  (I don't get it)

Chipotle ( chi-POHT-lay )  See, the T comes before the L, so why....oh, never mind.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on October 28, 2014, 10:40:42 PM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on November 07, 2014, 12:22:32 AM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Mendota Heights on November 07, 2014, 01:05:34 AM
the album title


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: halblaineisgood on November 07, 2014, 01:19:18 AM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on November 07, 2014, 05:11:23 AM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Lowbacca on November 09, 2014, 10:48:27 AM
Writing the album title in cursive. What's so cool about it that everyone started doing so copying each other - I do not know. Really stupid. So there.
Standard practice (not only) in academic writing. Makes texts easier to read as well (I think). I'm used to doing it that way, nothing fashionable about it. ;)


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on November 09, 2014, 11:18:27 AM
I hadn't ever heard that this was called "cursive." (I've only known it as italics.) Googled it. Found out. Interesting.

Writing an album title in italics is about as fashionable or stupid as capitalizing proper nouns or separating sentences with punctuation.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Lowbacca on November 09, 2014, 11:43:02 AM
I hadn't ever heard that this was called "cursive." (I've only known it as italics.) Googled it. Found out. Interesting.

Writing an album title in italics is about as fashionable or stupid as capitalizing proper nouns or separating sentences with punctuation.
Exactly. Thank you, captain.



Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on November 10, 2014, 08:54:38 PM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on November 10, 2014, 08:55:39 PM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on November 11, 2014, 05:35:15 AM
My point wasn't related to the relative merits of the convention, but of the fact it is one. So that you don't want to compare them is moot. Hang that on your wall. And on mine I'll hang a reminder not to waste my time on trolls.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on November 11, 2014, 06:04:07 AM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Lowbacca on November 11, 2014, 07:18:29 AM
I don't know how everything I say turns out to be wrong.
*sigh* ;)


Standard practice (not only) in academic writing.
This I was not aware. Not that I agree with the academics.

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Makes texts easier to read as well (I think).
You think. To me, I read fine w/ every word written in one font.

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I'm used to doing it that way, nothing fashionable about it. ;)
Good for you. Maybe "fashionable" wasn't a fitting word choice, but it's still pet peeve of mine.
Sorry, but the highlighted phrases came off a bit childish. :P Everything's cool now, though. :p


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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on November 12, 2014, 02:21:42 AM
Writing the album title in cursive. What's so cool about it that everyone started doing so copying each other - I do not know. Really stupid. So there.

That's a quirk of mine, except it's in bold italics, thus - Surf's Up - and avoids not only a plethora of "", but also confusion when an album title and song are the same. I use simple italics for book/movie/TV show titles. Used to render album titles in UPPER CASE, but that looks like I'm shouting. I think it looks neater and aids communication, but you're all welcome to disagree (you're all wrong of course...  :) ).


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on November 12, 2014, 02:28:56 AM
I don't consider it a glaring mistake if someone writes an album title plainly. You can still understand the text.

Surfin' U.S.A is pretty good, and so is Surfin' U.S.A..

Which is album, which is single ? You tell me. However...

"Surfin' U.S.A." is pretty good, and so is Surfin' U.S.A..

See, ease of communication, irrespective of one's mother tongue.

BTW, are you somehow incapable of spelling "something" in full ? If it's an affectation, can we have a little consistency, thus ?

"I don't know how evth. I say turns out to be wrong. I really try to exps. myself well like any of you & it's smhw. evytm. is incoherent & illogical. Honestly, when I post sth. on our local board, evth. is fine & no one finds it questionable or badly written."


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: beatnickle on November 20, 2014, 04:26:54 AM
 Ringo Starr and his constant flashing of the peace sign is beyond old. It seems so trite and disingenuous. I like Ringo but........
STOP IT, RINGO !


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: MaryUSA on November 21, 2014, 11:09:48 AM
Hi all,

1.  People who send mixed signals
2.  Those who take the school teacher appraoch when the aren't teachers
3.  People who deamand that others be pleased with things go wrong.  Yet they don't have to be that way themselves.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: sockittome on November 28, 2014, 11:59:09 AM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: halblaineisgood on November 28, 2014, 12:12:07 PM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: halblaineisgood on November 28, 2014, 12:24:54 PM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: beatnickle on December 07, 2014, 12:38:10 PM
I can't stand being barked at by my neighbor's dog each and every time I step into my OWN back yard.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Mike Garneau on December 09, 2014, 07:10:50 PM
Beach Boys fans who have nothing good to say about the Beach Boys. That annoys me. But I'm a sucker for punishment, and I continue to come to this site.  :o


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: JK on December 21, 2014, 06:08:06 AM
Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days.
Unless you're sure you want to reply, please consider starting a new topic.


Never did understand the relevance of time on an internet message board. A very minor peeve really. ;=)


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on December 21, 2014, 06:21:32 AM
Just look who's back in these corners - john k! :) That's stupid warning, I agree. We should not forget old topics; there's some really good stuff that can cause further attention by the newbies et al.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: JK on December 21, 2014, 02:33:39 PM
Just look who's back in these corners - john k! :)
Yes, he's crawled out of the woodwork again.  ;D


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: KDS on May 11, 2016, 05:15:03 AM
Pet Peeves

1.  Beer snobs

2.  Entitled milennials and Gen Y'ers

3.  Using the term "reboot" for a remake



Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: undercover-m on May 14, 2016, 01:59:39 PM
This isn't so much a pet peeve as it is a rant, but the other day when I was horribly sick (i.e. really high fever, didn't move from my bed for the entire day, nausea), my roommate was more or less complaining to my other roommates (the two that live in the second room) that she was worried she was gonna get sick and then get her boyfriend sick... Like I'm sorry but it's not like I can help it?

And then she ended up getting sick, although she wasn't nearly as bedridden as I was. She commented that she can tolerate pain well and I thought, but didn't say out loud, I don't think a fever and the need to throw up are things that you can just "shake off." I actually had it really bad and she made me feel like I was a wimp or something. I already have a short, small build and people always assume I'm weak, so this really bothered me. She then went on to explain how she ONLY ever gets sick if the person she's rooming with gets sick..... Yeah.

My roommates and I definitely agree that she has some kind of superiority complex. She's always one-upping us, apparently including when it comes to getting sick. Anyway, that's my rant.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Mendota Heights on May 14, 2016, 02:13:59 PM
That off-topics posts are not only allowed, but prevalent on SS.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on May 14, 2016, 02:37:54 PM
Gravel truck speeding down the highway, spewing gravel/other projectiles all over. Sign on back of the truck :shrug - "not responsible for cracked windshields." Others give a distance to remain in back of truck - one said 300 feet! Why aren't they made to secure the tarp (if they have that) over their load?
Big peeve as I've had to completely replace my windshield 3 times in the last 10 years, and am not sure if my present dinged up windshield will pass muster when the annual inspection takes place next month.



Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: sockittome on May 15, 2016, 12:09:31 PM
Ya know what bugs me?  People who use the word "coin" (a singular noun) when they're talking about money (a plural).  It makes no sense to me.  I dig a quarter out of my pocket; I have a coin.  I dig out another quarter; now I have two coins.  Then some knucklehead informs me "Dude, you got a lot of coin there!" 

Apparently, talking about "coin" doesn't even have to involve actual coins.  "Dude, did you see what he's driving?  He obviously makes a lot of coin!"

Why not just say "money" or "cash" or "moola"?

I used to regularly visit a music board where one particular poster's favorite phrase was "coin of the rhelm".  It got annoying after the first 20 times.  Who did he think he was?  King Bob?  It's money!  Just say money!

MONEY! 


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: JK on May 15, 2016, 12:16:23 PM
"moola"

Love that word! ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16GfYMuKxrY


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: undercover-m on May 17, 2016, 07:11:11 PM
As an ecology major and someone who has to get up for work in the morning, having your roommate take a 30-minute long shower in the only bathroom in your apartment is sort of annoying.

Also, people who don't ask how you are after you ask them.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: alf wiedersehen on May 17, 2016, 08:28:21 PM
Also, people who don't ask how you are after you ask them.

I knew someone like that. Every time I talked to her, I would ask how her day was. She would answer my question, and then she would fall silent. It was so bizarre!

I ended up asking her out on the last day of the semester--she said yes--and then I never talked to her again.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on May 17, 2016, 08:41:47 PM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on May 17, 2016, 08:49:49 PM
As an ecology major and someone who has to get up for work in the morning, having your roommate take a 30-minute long shower in the only bathroom in your apartment is sort of annoying.
Get up earlier than her. Easy. Problem solved. :3d [don't thank me :police:]


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: undercover-m on May 17, 2016, 09:13:59 PM
As an ecology major and someone who has to get up for work in the morning, having your roommate take a 30-minute long shower in the only bathroom in your apartment is sort of annoying.
Get up earlier than her. Easy. Problem solved. :3d [don't thank me :police:]
Well, she wasn't home when I went to sleep (she has a boyfriend), so I didn't expect her to be there that early in the morning. Plus we have our schedules on a bulletin board so everyone knows when people have class/work... and her class is later than my work.
This doesn't happen often, it just annoyed me today because... it happened. But yeah, this usually isn't an issue, at least hopefully it won't be.
Also, I don't really want to wake up earlier than 6:30 in the first place... lol
And on top of that, that long in the shower is too much water. That happens a lot.
Sorry that got kind of heated. Not directed towards you. :P


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: undercover-m on May 17, 2016, 09:16:11 PM
Also, people who don't ask how you are after you ask them.

I knew someone like that. Every time I talked to her, I would ask how her day was. She would answer my question, and then she would fall silent. It was so bizarre!

I ended up asking her out on the last day of the semester--she said yes--and then I never talked to her again.
lol, why did you ask her out then? Do you like the mysterious type?   ::)
but yeah, it's weird. I guess I do that when I'm like really tired or moody, but usually it's just like, common courtesy to ask back, yknow?


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on May 17, 2016, 11:00:41 PM
Well, she wasn't home when I went to sleep (she has a boyfriend), so I didn't expect her to be there that early in the morning. Plus we have our schedules on a bulletin board so everyone knows when people have class/work... and her class is later than my work.
This doesn't happen often, it just annoyed me today because... it happened. But yeah, this usually isn't an issue, at least hopefully it won't be.
Also, I don't really want to wake up earlier than 6:30 in the first place... lol
And on top of that, that long in the shower is too much water. That happens a lot.
Sorry that got kind of heated. Not directed towards you. :P
I don't get it - you must stand in line to wash & have this stupid schedule, yet students choose to live in strange place & say it's fun to mix in with peers? Ha. Now that's funny. HELLO? Doesn't EVERYbody like comfort? Why would ANYone deliberately move to campus/hostel/what it's called I don't care to share room with some stranger(s)? Bizarre.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Emily on May 17, 2016, 11:13:51 PM
Well, she wasn't home when I went to sleep (she has a boyfriend), so I didn't expect her to be there that early in the morning. Plus we have our schedules on a bulletin board so everyone knows when people have class/work... and her class is later than my work.
This doesn't happen often, it just annoyed me today because... it happened. But yeah, this usually isn't an issue, at least hopefully it won't be.
Also, I don't really want to wake up earlier than 6:30 in the first place... lol
And on top of that, that long in the shower is too much water. That happens a lot.
Sorry that got kind of heated. Not directed towards you. :P
I don't get it - you must stand in line to wash & have this stupid schedule, yet students choose to live in strange place & say it's fun to mix in with peers? Ha. Now that's funny. HELLO? Doesn't EVERYbody like comfort? Why would ANYone deliberately move to campus/hostel/what it's called I don't care to share room with some stranger(s)? Bizarre.
Some schools require that you live on campus some of the time; dorms are normally much cheaper than apartments and most college students even if they work full-time don't make a whole lot of money. You do what you gotta do.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on May 17, 2016, 11:20:31 PM
How about staying with fam, then? Frankly, I don't see anything bad in living with fam. Some people ridicule it, I think they should respect instead. If you live in a city where you go to college or uni, same place where you went to school, why not stay with fam, then? I don't get students' need for so-called :quote freedom. As if you can't be free IN the house. It's cheap. If smb. has conscience living with aunt or some distant relative & wants to pay - it's easier to make a deal with them than total strangers, albeit your age. To divide the rent cost etc. Win-win.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Emily on May 17, 2016, 11:29:18 PM
How about staying with fam, then? Frankly, I don't see anything bad in living with fam. Some people ridicule it, I think they should respect instead. If you live in a city where you go to college or uni, same place where you went to school, why not stay with fam, then? I don't get students' need for so-called :quote freedom. As if you can't be free IN the house. It's cheap. If smb. has conscience living with aunt or some distant relative & wants to pay - it's easier to make a deal with them than total strangers, albeit your age. To divide the rent cost etc. Win-win.
I think a lot of people who go to college in the same town where their family lives do live at home. But if you get into a better college that's not near your family, it often makes sense to deal with the living conditions for the sake of the education. Or, if you're like me, you choose a college in a city because you're sick of living in a small(ish) town. In my case, I think I chose a lesser education for the sake of leaving the town behind.

Pet peeve: tailgaters and passing on the right.



Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on May 17, 2016, 11:40:07 PM
I lived with cows, village resident. There isn't sight of college & university. Thus, moving to city was no-brainer. Btw, I see people say "college" in the U.S. Here, "college" is 3 yrs; it isn't higher education. Do you, yankees, differ in that dept & college lasts 5 yrs, i.e. "higher education"?


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Emily on May 17, 2016, 11:53:23 PM
I lived with cows, village resident. There isn't sight of college & university. Thus, moving to city was no-brainer. Btw, I see people say "college" in the U.S. Here, "college" is 3 yrs; it isn't higher education. Do you, yankees, differ in that dept & college lasts 5 yrs, i.e. "higher education"?
College is "higher education" here. You finish high school at 17-18. Many people then go to college (some go later; some don't go). Full-time college can be two years (associate's degree) or four years (bachelor's degree) standard. Of course if you go part time it may take longer. If you really cram it can be shorter.
If you go for more school, it's an "advanced degree" - either a master's, a Ph.D. or a professional degree (like JD for lawyers or MD for doctors). 
Some colleges are stand-alone institutions that do not offer advanced degrees. If a college is part of an institution that does offer advanced degrees, the institution is called a university.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on May 18, 2016, 12:11:28 AM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: KDS on May 18, 2016, 05:17:20 AM
I'm going to go ahead and add higher education to my list of pet peeves. 

In American society, it can be tough to land a job without a college degree.  Unfortunately, a bachelor's degree requires you to take general education courses, which are basically a rehash of high school courses.  You'll also be required to take courses that fulfill a requirement for something that has nothing to do with your major. 

The first time I went to college, I majored in Radio.  I had to take three art courses, including an Acting class.  Waste of time.  To fulfill gen ed requirements, I've taken classes on The History of Rock and Roll, Women in Music, Sports and Society, The Works of Alfred Hitchcock, and several others.  I've written college reports on Pink Floyd, The Simpsons, and This is Spinal Tap. 

A bachelor's degree should be obtained in two years instead of four, but if the colleges didn't have these extra requirements, they wouldn't get two more years of tuition out of you. 

Not to mention the text books.  The publishers put out a new edition each year so that the one you spent $100-$200 is worthless by the end of the semester. 

Oh, an another recent pet peeve of mine - gender reveal parties. 


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Emily on May 18, 2016, 06:21:14 AM
In elementary school (normally kindergarten to 5th grade about ages 5-11) we don't have lockers because the kids have fewer books and they just spend the day in one classroom except for special classes. But starting in middle school, the kids go to different classrooms for different subjects and have different books for each subject, so carrying them all around from room to room would be bad on the back. So between classes you go to your locker and switch books. By this theory, you only have one or two books to carry at any time, so a bag isn't necessary, but it's not against the rules if you want to use one. Often your locker is close enough to the room that putting your books in a bag, walking 20 steps, and taking them out again would seem pointless.
In the US, the age for getting a driver's license varies from state to state, but it's normally 16-17. Much of the US was developed after the advent of cars and there are a lot of places you can't go anywhere, not even to a little shop, without a car, so letting kids get cars a little younger is very useful to some parents. However, I agree that 16 is young for such a responsibility and kids get in many more accidents than adults.

Regarding KDS - I'm a firm believer in the value of a liberal arts education, though the point is lessened by the poor quality of many of our institutions. Though I will agree that it doesn't make sense for people hiring for positions that don't need thinking skills to require a college education.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: KDS on May 18, 2016, 06:46:41 AM
In elementary school (normally kindergarten to 5th grade about ages 5-11) we don't have lockers because the kids have fewer books and they just spend the day in one classroom except for special classes. But starting in middle school, the kids go to different classrooms for different subjects and have different books for each subject, so carrying them all around from room to room would be bad on the back. So between classes you go to your locker and switch books. By this theory, you only have one or two books to carry at any time, so a bag isn't necessary, but it's not against the rules if you want to use one. Often your locker is close enough to the room that putting your books in a bag, walking 20 steps, and taking them out again would seem pointless.
In the US, the age for getting a driver's license varies from state to state, but it's normally 16-17. Much of the US was developed after the advent of cars and there are a lot of places you can't go anywhere, not even to a little shop, without a car, so letting kids get cars a little younger is very useful to some parents. However, I agree that 16 is young for such a responsibility and kids get in many more accidents than adults.

Regarding KDS - I'm a firm believer in the value of a liberal arts education, though the point is lessened by the poor quality of many of our institutions.

Emily,

I'll agree that there's value in a liberal arts education.  I just object to the very high cost and that many courses have little to do with a chosen major, and it's designed this way just to keep a student there for the required four years (120 credits).  I especially object to the gen ed courses.  Some of the ones I had to take as a college freshman were just a pointless repeat of high school classes. 


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Emily on May 18, 2016, 06:53:15 AM
In elementary school (normally kindergarten to 5th grade about ages 5-11) we don't have lockers because the kids have fewer books and they just spend the day in one classroom except for special classes. But starting in middle school, the kids go to different classrooms for different subjects and have different books for each subject, so carrying them all around from room to room would be bad on the back. So between classes you go to your locker and switch books. By this theory, you only have one or two books to carry at any time, so a bag isn't necessary, but it's not against the rules if you want to use one. Often your locker is close enough to the room that putting your books in a bag, walking 20 steps, and taking them out again would seem pointless.
In the US, the age for getting a driver's license varies from state to state, but it's normally 16-17. Much of the US was developed after the advent of cars and there are a lot of places you can't go anywhere, not even to a little shop, without a car, so letting kids get cars a little younger is very useful to some parents. However, I agree that 16 is young for such a responsibility and kids get in many more accidents than adults.

Regarding KDS - I'm a firm believer in the value of a liberal arts education, though the point is lessened by the poor quality of many of our institutions.

Emily,

I'll agree that there's value in a liberal arts education.  I just object to the very high cost and that many courses have little to do with a chosen major, and it's designed this way just to keep a student there for the required four years (120 credits).  I especially object to the gen ed courses.  Some of the ones I had to take as a college freshman were just a pointless repeat of high school classes. 
I think we agree about 90%. I think the cost is ridiculous. And I agree that for many people the general requirements are a waste of time and money and that in college all the classes should be a lot more rigorous than in high school and they often aren't. Do you know if there are general requirements for an Associate's degree? If not, the best answer would be for employers who are requiring someone with specific training but not generalized thinking skills should consider an Associate's degree to be perfectly adequate. And a Bachelor's would be for jobs needing more generalized critical ability.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: KDS on May 18, 2016, 06:59:09 AM
In elementary school (normally kindergarten to 5th grade about ages 5-11) we don't have lockers because the kids have fewer books and they just spend the day in one classroom except for special classes. But starting in middle school, the kids go to different classrooms for different subjects and have different books for each subject, so carrying them all around from room to room would be bad on the back. So between classes you go to your locker and switch books. By this theory, you only have one or two books to carry at any time, so a bag isn't necessary, but it's not against the rules if you want to use one. Often your locker is close enough to the room that putting your books in a bag, walking 20 steps, and taking them out again would seem pointless.
In the US, the age for getting a driver's license varies from state to state, but it's normally 16-17. Much of the US was developed after the advent of cars and there are a lot of places you can't go anywhere, not even to a little shop, without a car, so letting kids get cars a little younger is very useful to some parents. However, I agree that 16 is young for such a responsibility and kids get in many more accidents than adults.

Regarding KDS - I'm a firm believer in the value of a liberal arts education, though the point is lessened by the poor quality of many of our institutions.

Emily,

I'll agree that there's value in a liberal arts education.  I just object to the very high cost and that many courses have little to do with a chosen major, and it's designed this way just to keep a student there for the required four years (120 credits).  I especially object to the gen ed courses.  Some of the ones I had to take as a college freshman were just a pointless repeat of high school classes. 
I think we agree about 90%. I think the cost is ridiculous. And I agree that for many people the general requirements are a waste of time and money and that in college all the classes should be a lot more rigorous than in high school and they often aren't. Do you know if there are general requirements for an Associate's degree? If not, the best answer would be for employers who are requiring someone with specific training but not generalized thinking skills should consider an Associate's degree to be perfectly adequate. And a Bachelor's would be for jobs needing more generalized critical ability.

I don't think an Associate's Degree requires the gen ed's that a Bachelor's Degree requires, as they can be obtained in two years as opposed to four. 

But a Bachelor's Degree opens more doors (at least it would in a better job market).  It's just a takes a lot of unnecessary time and money to get that key. 

Then, if one wants to get a Graduate Degree, they could get a two year head start and pay a lot less if a Bachelors could be earned in two years as opposed to four.  Getting a Graduate Degree can be financially crippling if there's not a top notch job waiting. 


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Emily on May 18, 2016, 07:04:37 AM
I don't think an advanced degree is appropriate for someone without a general education.
But, I also just looked it up and an Associate's is the reverse - it's the general education without significant specialization. There used to be a lot more 'vocational training' which was field-specific without the general Ed. This was dumped with the middle-classification of the country.
I agree that that should return as a valid option.
Now, we educate everyone as if they are going to be a manager or professional and of course not everyone is. Though as everyone is allowed to vote, there's still some reason to hope that people are getting a good general education. My problem is mainly with the quality. It's really wasted time and money if it's poor quality.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: KDS on May 18, 2016, 07:22:19 AM
I don't think an advanced degree is appropriate for someone without a general education.
But, I also just looked it up and an Associate's is the reverse - it's the general education without significant specialization. There used to be a lot more 'vocational training' which was field-specific without the general Ed. This was dumped with the middle-classification of the country.
I agree that that should return as a valid option.
Now, we educate everyone as if they are going to be a manager or professional and of course not everyone is. Though as everyone is allowed to vote, there's still some reason to hope that people are getting a good general education. My problem is mainly with the quality. It's really wasted time and money if it's poor quality.

I didn't know an Associate's Degree was basically general education.  That's completely useless then. 

Don't we get generally educated in high school?  Granted, high school might not offer things like pyschology or political science, but why force people to take English 101, Algebra, Foreign Language, and History again? 


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Emily on May 18, 2016, 07:34:48 AM
I don't think an advanced degree is appropriate for someone without a general education.
But, I also just looked it up and an Associate's is the reverse - it's the general education without significant specialization. There used to be a lot more 'vocational training' which was field-specific without the general Ed. This was dumped with the middle-classification of the country.
I agree that that should return as a valid option.
Now, we educate everyone as if they are going to be a manager or professional and of course not everyone is. Though as everyone is allowed to vote, there's still some reason to hope that people are getting a good general education. My problem is mainly with the quality. It's really wasted time and money if it's poor quality.

I didn't know an Associate's Degree was basically general education.  That's completely useless then.  

Don't we get generally educated in high school?  Granted, high school might not offer things like pyschology or political science, but why force people to take English 101, Algebra, Foreign Language, and History again?  
Well, with math and language at that level, you're meant to take the next class up, not repeat. People that repeat are screwing themselves over out of laziness. And English, if you've mastered what you should have in high school, you should take the AP test and pass out of 101 and go right to a more advanced course. With history, at least at my college, one was immediately able to choose from a variety of courses that would be more specific and more advanced than at high school. But, I am aware that most (perhaps all) colleges don't push students to move ahead; they allow students to take classes of things they already know and offer gen. Ed courses that are known to be easy to pass and a waste of time and money. College should be more rigorous. High school should be too. People can slide though both learning very little; just going through the motions.
My brother is a math professor and sometimes teaches what's known in the department as 'math for jocks'. It's a really basic, easy course for people to fulfill their math requirement learning rudimentaries. It's a double thing: on the one hand, you want to be sure they have at least some very basic understanding if you're going to give them a degree, but that's just covering for our failed lower schools who let them graduate without a basic education. Also, I really disapprove of colleges letting people in based on athletic skills.
And I don't think people should be allowed to get a BA if they haven't mastered at least basic algebra and geometry. Frankly, I don't think they should get a high school diploma without those.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: KDS on May 18, 2016, 07:41:22 AM
I don't think an advanced degree is appropriate for someone without a general education.
But, I also just looked it up and an Associate's is the reverse - it's the general education without significant specialization. There used to be a lot more 'vocational training' which was field-specific without the general Ed. This was dumped with the middle-classification of the country.
I agree that that should return as a valid option.
Now, we educate everyone as if they are going to be a manager or professional and of course not everyone is. Though as everyone is allowed to vote, there's still some reason to hope that people are getting a good general education. My problem is mainly with the quality. It's really wasted time and money if it's poor quality.

I didn't know an Associate's Degree was basically general education.  That's completely useless then.  

Don't we get generally educated in high school?  Granted, high school might not offer things like pyschology or political science, but why force people to take English 101, Algebra, Foreign Language, and History again?  
Well, with math and language at that level, you're meant to take the next class up, not repeat. People that repeat are screwing themselves over out of laziness. And English, if you've mastered what you should have in high school, you should take the AP test and pass out of 101 and go right to a more advanced course. With history, at least at my college, one was immediately able to choose from a variety of courses that would be more specific and more advanced than at high school. But, I am aware that most (perhaps all) colleges don't push students to move ahead; they allow students to take classes of things they already know and offer gen. Ed courses that are known to be easy to pass and a waste of time and money. College should be more rigorous. High school should be too. People can slide though both learning very little; just going through the motions.
My brother is a math professor and sometimes teaches what's known in the department as 'math for jocks'. It's a really basic, easy course for people to fulfill their math requirement learning rudimentaries. It's a double thing: on the one hand, you want to be sure they have at least some very basic understanding if you're going to give them a degree, but that's just covering for our failed lower schools who let them graduate without a basic education. Also, I really disapprove of colleges letting people in based on athletic skills.
And I don't think people should be allowed to get a BA if they haven't mastered at least basic algebra and geometry. Frankly, I don't think they should get a high school diploma without those.

I'm alright with athletic scholarships as college football and basketball bring in a lot of money.  However, I do think that more of that money should be used for the college itself rather than paying coaches millions of dollars. 

The thing I object to most is big colleges who will turn a blind eye to academics to student athletes.  The NCAA is getting better with this.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Emily on May 18, 2016, 08:07:43 AM
Well, there's the system we've got and then there's the ideal. Under current circumstances, schools need to sell education short to get money, but I wish those weren't the circumstances.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: KDS on May 18, 2016, 08:16:08 AM
Well, there's the system we've got and then there's the ideal. Under current circumstances, schools need to sell education short to get money, but I wish those weren't the circumstances.

I agree with you on that. 

I also wish colleges treated college students as students instead of customers.

It's also a two way street too with quality of education.  At the university I went to, it seemed like the majority of the students were there to party and mingle with co-eds. 



Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Emily on May 18, 2016, 08:21:47 AM
Well, there's the system we've got and then there's the ideal. Under current circumstances, schools need to sell education short to get money, but I wish those weren't the circumstances.

I agree with you on that. 

I also wish colleges treated college students as students instead of customers.

It's also a two way street too with quality of education.  At the university I went to, it seemed like the majority of the students were there to party and mingle with co-eds. 


I love complete 100% no qualifications agreement, and that's where I'm at with this post!


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: undercover-m on May 18, 2016, 10:22:30 AM
Not to mention the text books.  The publishers put out a new edition each year so that the one you spent $100-$200 is worthless by the end of the semester. 
Seriously though. I spent $120 on a used textbook. Thanks, university bookstore.  :(

I definitely have a LOT to comment on about college, from apartments to dorms to the education itself... but alas, I have school work to prioritize before I can reply, haha.
And by haha, I mean I have so much to do by tomorrow. It's like professors and employers enjoy making students work until they have nervous breakdowns.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: KDS on May 18, 2016, 10:50:32 AM
Not to mention the text books.  The publishers put out a new edition each year so that the one you spent $100-$200 is worthless by the end of the semester. 
Seriously though. I spent $120 on a used textbook. Thanks, university bookstore.  :(

I definitely have a LOT to comment on about college, from apartments to dorms to the education itself... but alas, I have school work to prioritize before I can reply, haha.
And by haha, I mean I have so much to do by tomorrow. It's like professors and employers enjoy making students work until they have nervous breakdowns.

I'm sure at the end of the semester, the university bookstore, will either offer you about $9 to buy book your book, or will offer to recycle it for free since there'll be a new edition for the Fall semester. 

I think human beings, in general, don't have enough time for leisure.  We're always running somewhere.  Be in school, work, a social engagement, shopping, meeting about a loan, etc etc.  We have so many obligations now, and the years just keep going and going. 


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on May 18, 2016, 11:01:20 AM
Wait - do librarians in the U.S. actually offer 9$ for the book? Let's see... 550 roubles. Not bad. Here, you don't ask for money; anything you bought you give for free. I've got many books that could be useful to university - I'd sure be glad to sell them. At the same time though, they require the book to be within 5 year fresh, i.e. 2011-now.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: KDS on May 18, 2016, 11:09:21 AM
Wait - do librarians in the U.S. actually offer 9$ for the book? Let's see... 550 roubles. Not bad. Here, you don't ask for money; anything you bought you give for free. I've got many books that could be useful to university - I'd sure be glad to sell them. At the same time though, they require the book to be within 5 year fresh, i.e. 2011-now.

RR,

I think you're missing the point a little bit about the $9. 

Basically, in college, if you purchase a book from the school bookstore, you'll spend between $50-$200 per book, depending on whether or not they have a used copy. 

At the end of each semester, the store will do a buyback.  And they'll offer you a mere fraction of what you paid, regardless of condition its in.  But, that's only half the time.  They change editions so often, that your book is usually useless at the end of the semester.  In this case, they'll offer no money, but will recycle it for free.

So, let's say, you take 5 classes, and have to buy 5 text books, and a lab book.  Text books $100 each, and the lab book is $25.  That's $525.  At the end of the semester, the store offers for $6 for one text, $8 for the other.  The other three are being replaced, and you can't sell back the lab book.  So, you've spent $525, but you get back $14!!!  That's $511 down the drain. 


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on May 18, 2016, 11:29:59 AM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Emily on May 18, 2016, 12:12:07 PM



I think human beings, in general, don't have enough time for leisure.  We're always running somewhere.  Be in school, work, a social engagement, shopping, meeting about a loan, etc etc.  We have so many obligations now, and the years just keep going and going. 
Which brings me to another pet peeve: Americans keep voting to turn increases in productivity into further luxuries for CEOs instead of more time off for themselves.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on May 18, 2016, 12:14:52 PM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Emily on May 18, 2016, 12:18:40 PM
Back to topic. $ stands before the digit - who made such asinine rule to place it there? 1$ is logical.
Not at all asinine. It prevents people from altering the ledger by adding digits to the front.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on May 18, 2016, 12:24:34 PM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: alf wiedersehen on May 18, 2016, 12:29:40 PM
Speaking as someone who's currently at the tail end of obtaining their Associate's Degree at a community college, 60 credits is the minimum amount to graduate. This is split approximately 40 credits from general education classes and 20 from your chosen major. It's a major pain in the ass. I can see the worth in taking these classes (expanding knowledge base, finding new interests, etc.), but I've heard an entire classroom complain about the irrelevant courses they've been required to take.

So far, I've maintained a 4.0 GPA, but if some stupid Gen Ed class knocks me down, I might strangle a counselor.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: alf wiedersehen on May 18, 2016, 12:31:20 PM
Also, people who don't ask how you are after you ask them.

I knew someone like that. Every time I talked to her, I would ask how her day was. She would answer my question, and then she would fall silent. It was so bizarre!

I ended up asking her out on the last day of the semester--she said yes--and then I never talked to her again.
lol, why did you ask her out then?

I guess it's just one of those things we'll never know the answer to.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Emily on May 18, 2016, 12:36:53 PM
Speaking as someone who's currently at the tail end of obtaining their Associate's Degree at a community college, 60 credits is the minimum amount to graduate. This is split approximately 40 credits from general education classes and 20 from your chosen major. It's a major pain in the ass. I can see the worth in taking these classes (expanding knowledge base, finding new interests, etc.), but I've heard an entire classroom complain about the irrelevant courses they've been required to take.

So far, I've maintained a 4.0 GPA, but if some stupid Gen Ed class knocks me down, I might strangle a counselor.
Congrats on the 4.0. I agree that it's odd - I don't understand the sense of - that balance of requirements for an Associate's degree.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Emily on May 18, 2016, 12:38:01 PM
Yes but informally, they could write it as [digit] before the dollar sign. Leave the standard to the serious business. I think it's easy to write as you speak "I buy a car"  "2 dollars". you don't say "dollars 2" right?
Meh. Keeping track of two standards seems more of a pain to me. Maybe that's just me.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on May 18, 2016, 12:49:03 PM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: alf wiedersehen on May 18, 2016, 12:50:03 PM
$10.45¢


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Emily on May 18, 2016, 12:51:52 PM
$10.45¢
That would be incorrect.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on May 18, 2016, 12:53:07 PM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Emily on May 18, 2016, 12:53:51 PM
You mean to say with that cryptic post that it doesn't apply to less value - cents & dimes etc.?
You talking to me? Or Bubs?


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on May 18, 2016, 12:55:15 PM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: alf wiedersehen on May 18, 2016, 12:55:22 PM
You mean to say with that cryptic post that it doesn't apply to less value - cents & dimes etc.?

Never mind. I've realized I have no interest in debating about the placement of the dollar sign.


I was addressing "Bubs".

You can still call me Mr. Waves. I enjoyed that.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Emily on May 18, 2016, 12:56:14 PM
You mean to say with that cryptic post that it doesn't apply to less value - cents & dimes etc.?

Never mind. I've realized I have no interest in debating about the placement of the dollar sign.
You are blunt. Which can be good.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on May 18, 2016, 12:58:14 PM
Massive pet peeve...seeing women wear socks with high heels. When did THAT become a thing?


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on May 18, 2016, 12:59:45 PM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: KDS on May 18, 2016, 01:01:53 PM
Massive pet peeve...seeing women wear socks with high heels. When did THAT become a thing?

I haven't really noticed that.  But I have noticed guys wearing flip flops everywhere, all the time.  Not just at the beach. 

I think I'd rather see a woman in socks and heels that see men's feet all the time. 


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Emily on May 18, 2016, 01:02:09 PM
Massive pet peeve...seeing women wear socks with high heels. When did THAT become a thing?
So many reactions. I agree. But, high heels can really be uncomfortable. But then why are they wearing high heels? Because it's a social expectation and because they're being judged for their looks which high heels improve. But then the socks ruin the look. Back to square one.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Emily on May 18, 2016, 01:03:11 PM
If you posted you must explain yourself what you meant. I don't see anything bad in asking. cents are written normally - 45c? What could I get from the post like "$10.45c"?
My guess is that I pooped Bubs out.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on May 18, 2016, 01:05:58 PM
edit: the "manure" slang explained w/ help of KDS.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: alf wiedersehen on May 18, 2016, 01:07:32 PM
If you posted you must explain yourself what you meant.

Unfortunately, I rarely ever explain myself.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: KDS on May 18, 2016, 01:12:08 PM
If you posted you must explain yourself what you meant. I don't see anything bad in asking. cents are written normally - 45c? What could I get from the post like "$10.45c"?
My guess is that I pooped Bubs out.

I could definitely see how this sentence could be misunderstood by somebody who doesn't understand English slang. 



Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on May 18, 2016, 01:14:42 PM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: KDS on May 18, 2016, 01:24:52 PM
I don't understand 'manure' slang. What did you do with the poster in question?

RR,

The slang where one is "pooped out" and just another way of saying "tired." 


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on August 21, 2016, 07:08:00 AM
edit: agree to disagree w/ Emily & KDS.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: KDS on August 22, 2016, 06:37:53 AM
People getting creeped out for very little & trivial things. Like clowns & kings (hello, KDS & Emily :wave ). It's kind of annoying & funny at the same time.

My pet peeve is when people who don't fully understand things decide to be insulting. 


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on August 22, 2016, 06:48:47 AM
edit: agree to disagree w/ KDS & Emily.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: KDS on August 22, 2016, 06:53:38 AM
I just don't get what's creepy/disturbing about clowns & some cartoon king picture. If you say I don't "fully understand", explain.

Like it was pointed out, it's the frozen faces and painted on smiles. 

I'm not really freaked out by clowns or The Burger King myself, but I can at least respect that other people do.  I have friends who have real phobias of clowns. 

Just because you don't understand it is no reason to put down somebody (ie. Emily) who does. 


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on August 22, 2016, 07:01:39 AM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: KDS on August 22, 2016, 07:13:19 AM
Big deal, frozen faces. Every picture has frozen face & painted on smile, no? That's laughable to be creeped out by a picture of king ONLY BECAUSE he has weird/"total tool" kind of smile. Ha!

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Just because you don't understand it is no reason to put down somebody (ie. Emily) who does.
This is thread "Pet peeves". Look at the posts here - everybody listed sth. they find EXTREMELY annoying. So did I. If Emily was offended, if at all, she can say that herself. You can't know if she was & say on her behalf.

I was only using her as an immediate example.  But the fact that clowns are used in horror movies and TV shows so often just shows that fear of clowns is a legit fear. 



Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on August 22, 2016, 07:16:23 AM
And it's worth noting that fear is a very personal thing. Opening cardboard packages sends shivers up my spine but I couldn't possibly explain why.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: KDS on August 22, 2016, 07:21:00 AM
And it's worth noting that fear is a very personal thing. Opening cardboard packages sends shivers up my spine but I couldn't possibly explain why.

For me, spiders. 

I also have irrational fear / anxiety about concerts.  When I go to a show, especially if it's a long distance, I check to make sure I have the tickets every few minutes. 


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on August 22, 2016, 07:26:25 AM
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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: KDS on August 22, 2016, 07:39:00 AM
My current pet peeve - summer colds.   I got one last week.  It's a mild cold, but it WON'T GO AWAY. 



Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on August 22, 2016, 07:56:07 AM
girls using super-old trick - telling they're very ugly when they're obviously pretty. I say, "Yes, you're very ugly, mug like yours can make people double over to avoid the glimpse of your freakface".


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: JK on September 11, 2016, 04:55:26 AM
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet but I get really riled by people who write <it's> when they mean <its>:

<It's quite credible> requires an apostrophe, <assess its credibility> does not!

And this mistake is made everywhere, even on BBC web pages... 


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on September 11, 2016, 05:32:07 AM
Absolutely, John K!

It's so pervasive that when I read something like "put back in its proper place" it looks wrong. So used to seeing "put back in it's proper place."


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on September 14, 2016, 02:56:41 AM
edit: filledeplage explained.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Jay on September 14, 2016, 03:07:54 AM
When people write "my friend and I", "my wife and I", "[name] and I". What is this, showing respect? Can't they say "me & my friend", "me & [somebody else]" etc.? F.ex., let's say you attended BBs show with your friends & next thing you do is share it quickly in your blog/message board/facebook etc. Since this is *your* story, *you* post it, then I think it'd be logical if you started with yourself - "Today me & my friends were at a BBs show...".
It's in correct grammar.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: filledeplage on September 14, 2016, 05:31:05 AM
When people write "my friend and I", "my wife and I", "[name] and I". What is this, showing respect? Can't they say "me & my friend", "me & [somebody else]" etc.? F.ex., let's say you attended BBs show with your friends & next thing you do is share it quickly in your blog/message board/facebook etc. Since this is *your* story, *you* post it, then I think it'd be logical if you started with yourself - "Today me & my friends were at a BBs show...".
Range Rover - I have to first compliment you on your written English.  It is very good.  English, is a very tough language with a million rules and exceptions to the rules.

These are subject pronouns:  (for singular) I, you, he/she/it (for plural) We, you, they.

Subject pronouns are used with the main verb or predicate - so it would be My wife and I (because it could be substituted for "We")

And we have object pronouns that are used with objects of the prepositions (such as above, below, in, among, etc.)

They are: Me, you, him/her/it (for singular) and, (us, you, them) - and they are used in phrases that don't have a subject and a predicate. 

It is the was it is in "use" and not the way it may "sound" - We only use subject pronouns when in the use of a subject-predicate and object pronouns for objects or prepositions or direct and indirect objets. 

So, to use your example, it is, "Today my friends and I were at at a BB show." The I refers to the subject of the sentence - agreeing in "number" with the verb "were." You could substitute this..."We were at a BB show."  And it refers to the "way it is used" and not "how it sounds."   Hope that helps.  English is a really difficult language.  You do very well with it.   ;)


 


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on September 14, 2016, 05:39:32 AM
Thank you, 'plage (edit: & jo'). I appreciate your compliment. English ruling is very difficult indeed. But on 3rd read I understood what you posted. Thanks, that helps. :3d


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: JK on September 14, 2016, 05:40:05 AM
Range Rover - I have to first compliment you on your written English.  It is very good. * * * English is a really difficult language.  You do very well with it.   ;)

I'll echo that. :=)


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: filledeplage on September 14, 2016, 05:55:08 AM
Thank you, 'plage (edit: & jo'). I appreciate your compliment. English ruling is very difficult indeed. But on 3rd read I understood what you posted. Thanks, that helps. :3d

You are most welcome.   ;)


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: JK on September 26, 2016, 03:38:39 AM
I suppose the thing that irks me most these days (on this forum) is the tiresome business of "please delete my account". (One ex-poster has even called himself "please delete my account"!) Just leave if you must, for goodness' sake----why make a circus act out of it? It's only the internet, after all.


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Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Emily on September 28, 2016, 02:50:29 PM
When people write "my friend and I", "my wife and I", "[name] and I". What is this, showing respect? Can't they say "me & my friend", "me & [somebody else]" etc.? F.ex., let's say you attended BBs show with your friends & next thing you do is share it quickly in your blog/message board/facebook etc. Since this is *your* story, *you* post it, then I think it'd be logical if you started with yourself - "Today me & my friends were at a BBs show...".
I just saw this and noticed that the responses focused on the 'I' vs. 'me' while I think your post was talking about sequence.
There's no grammatical rule about whether the personal pronoun goes first or second. It's just custom. With the first person singular personal pronoun, for some reason, it's almost always second and sounds very strange placed first, but again, that's just custom, not a rule.

So
Jane and I went to the store - correct and customary
I and Jane went to the store - correct but not customary
She and Jane went to the store -correct and customary
Jane and she went to the store - correct and customary

He gave tickets to me and Jane - correct and customary
He gave tickets to Jane and me - correct and customary
He gave tickets to Jane and her - correct and customary
He gave tickets to her and Jane - correct and customary


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 28, 2016, 03:12:56 PM
I suppose the thing that irks me most these days (on this forum) is the tiresome business of "please delete my account". (One ex-poster has even called himself "please delete my account"!) Just leave if you must, for goodness' sake----why make a circus act out of it? It's only the internet, after all.


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Agreed. I  didn't delete the account in case said posted changed their mind. I did do it as a "ban" just so that if said poster logs in, they can see a message saying why I didn't delete the account and to contact me if they changed their mind so I can reinstate them


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on September 28, 2016, 03:14:44 PM
2Emily: That too, though 1st things 1st I was curious why people can't say "me & my friends" if they can say "me too" (instead of "I too"), "that's her" (instead of "that's she"). Many posters I observed writing this, f.ex. Rocker said before "me & my friends". What filledeplage said is right but wouldn't it be correct when smb. says "I grew up to be shortie" to reply with "I too", as it agrees with the previous human? Why it's suddenly "me too"? If they can use it, then by logic I assumed that "me & my friends" is allowed as well. or maybe it's dumb logic. Carry on.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Emily on September 28, 2016, 04:36:25 PM
2Emily: That too, though 1st things 1st I was curious why people can't say "me & my friends" if they can say "me too" (instead of "I too"), "that's her" (instead of "that's she"). Many posters I observed writing this, f.ex. Rocker said before "me & my friends". What filledeplage said is right but wouldn't it be correct when smb. says "I grew up to be shortie" to reply with "I too", as it agrees with the previous human? Why it's suddenly "me too"? If they can use it, then by logic I assumed that "me & my friends" is allowed as well. or maybe it's dumb logic. Carry on.
Both of those are examples of convention defying what's grammatically correct.
If you are saying, "that also applies to me," then "me too" would be correct. But if you are saying "I think so too," then "I too" would be correct. Of course the convention is to use "me too" in either case; not sure why.
In the case of "that is she" vs. "that is her," "that is she" would always be correct, but is never used. There are examples with "this" where the structure is used correctly, though. Most people on the phone, if someone says, "may I speak with Emily?" will answer "this is she" rather than "this is her." In that case, they would be being both conventional and correct.

My dad always made fun of his high school English teacher for a really, really bad 'poetic' saying she made them memorize, though I'll note that it's effective enough that he remembered it, I remember it, and my daughter probably will, too:

We may all laugh at he
Who takes an object with the verb to be.
  (This is the first time in my life I've wanted to use a vomiting emoji).

Consequently, whenever I called him, I would say "'tis I, papa" in a bogus English accent. But, yes, the correct but rarely used form is "it is I" not "it's me."



Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Jay on September 28, 2016, 05:18:22 PM
One of my pet peeves is when somebody asks a question, then argues about the answer.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on September 28, 2016, 05:29:12 PM
2Emily: That too, though 1st things 1st I was curious why people can't say "me & my friends" if they can say "me too" (instead of "I too"), "that's her" (instead of "that's she"). Many posters I observed writing this, f.ex. Rocker said before "me & my friends". What filledeplage said is right but wouldn't it be correct when smb. says "I grew up to be shortie" to reply with "I too", as it agrees with the previous human? Why it's suddenly "me too"? If they can use it, then by logic I assumed that "me & my friends" is allowed as well. or maybe it's dumb logic. Carry on.
Both of those are examples of convention defying what's grammatically correct.
If you are saying, "that also applies to me," then "me too" would be correct. But if you are saying "I think so too," then "I too" would be correct. Of course the convention is to use "me too" in either case; not sure why.
In the case of "that is she" vs. "that is her," "that is she" would always be correct, but is never used. There are examples with "this" where the structure is used correctly, though. Most people on the phone, if someone says, "may I speak with Emily?" will answer "this is she" rather than "this is her." In that case, they would be being both conventional and correct.

My dad always made fun of his high school English teacher for a really, really bad 'poetic' saying she made them memorize, though I'll note that it's effective enough that he remembered it, I remember it, and my daughter probably will, too:

We may all laugh at he
Who takes an object with the verb to be.
 (This is the first time in my life I've wanted to use a vomiting emoji).

Consequently, whenever I called him, I would say "'tis I, papa" in a bogus English accent. But, yes, the correct but rarely used form is "it is I" not "it's me."
I knew that these are correct, then my logic was correct - very glad to be confirmed that I was right, at least the bigger half of it. Thank you, Emily. Then going by that rule, to use my example "I grew up to be shortie", the agreement with that statement will be "that applies to me", i.e. the fitting reply would be "Me too", not "I too". Understood. Now let me ramble on - what you say makes sense regarding "conventional outweighed correct", it's habitual to say "that's her/him/them/us", just as switching light on/off etc. is habitual. But it puzzles that in the 1st place people would use sth. other than "she/he/they/we". It's strange that people decided to say it differently. That bit, the beginning, interests me. To get back to the "me & my friends" vs. "my friends & I" debate, I'm now informed, with help of filledeplage, that the latter is correct. But many of these pet peeves are irrational & subconscious maybe, I get the root but the annoyance will not go away for a while.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Emily on September 28, 2016, 05:35:47 PM
2Emily: That too, though 1st things 1st I was curious why people can't say "me & my friends" if they can say "me too" (instead of "I too"), "that's her" (instead of "that's she"). Many posters I observed writing this, f.ex. Rocker said before "me & my friends". What filledeplage said is right but wouldn't it be correct when smb. says "I grew up to be shortie" to reply with "I too", as it agrees with the previous human? Why it's suddenly "me too"? If they can use it, then by logic I assumed that "me & my friends" is allowed as well. or maybe it's dumb logic. Carry on.
Both of those are examples of convention defying what's grammatically correct.
If you are saying, "that also applies to me," then "me too" would be correct. But if you are saying "I think so too," then "I too" would be correct. Of course the convention is to use "me too" in either case; not sure why.
In the case of "that is she" vs. "that is her," "that is she" would always be correct, but is never used. There are examples with "this" where the structure is used correctly, though. Most people on the phone, if someone says, "may I speak with Emily?" will answer "this is she" rather than "this is her." In that case, they would be being both conventional and correct.

My dad always made fun of his high school English teacher for a really, really bad 'poetic' saying she made them memorize, though I'll note that it's effective enough that he remembered it, I remember it, and my daughter probably will, too:

We may all laugh at he
Who takes an object with the verb to be.
 (This is the first time in my life I've wanted to use a vomiting emoji).

Consequently, whenever I called him, I would say "'tis I, papa" in a bogus English accent. But, yes, the correct but rarely used form is "it is I" not "it's me."
I knew that these are correct, then my logic was correct - very glad to be confirmed that I was right, at least the bigger half of it. Thank you, Emily. Then going by that rule, to use my example "I grew up to be shortie", the agreement with that statement will be "that applies to me", i.e. the fitting reply would be "Me too", not "I too". Understood. Now let me ramble on - what you say makes sense regarding "conventional outweighed correct", it's habitual to say "that's her/him/them/us", just as switching light on/off etc. is habitual. But it puzzles that in the 1st place people would use sth. other than "she/he/they/we". It's strange that people decided to say it differently. That bit, the beginning, interests me. To get back to the "me & my friends" vs. "my friends & I" debate, I'm now informed, with help of filledeplage, that the latter is correct. But many of these pet peeves are irrational & subconscious maybe, I get the root but the annoyance will not go away for a while.

My guess, for the "that's her" construction, is that it seems correct. I think people confuse it with a standard subject-verb-object sentence: "I tripped her," "He kissed her," etc. So if you don't think through the verb To Be being used as a linking verb, "that is her" sounds right.
Just my guess.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 28, 2016, 05:53:14 PM
One of my pet peeves is when somebody asks a question, then argues about the answer.

Same here! That seems to be very common on the internet in general.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on September 28, 2016, 05:58:48 PM
2Emily: I'll go with your initial statement that  >>In the case of "that is she" vs. "that is her," "that is she" would always be correct, but is never used.<<  To me, "that is her" doesn't sound correct but I *will* & *do* use it because I hear it in conversational English in movies, books, songs. & that's what English teachers taught us in school. But it doesn't mean that anybody cannot question it & pay attention to, right? I'm just curious how this thing evolved historically. Maybe it's as simple as smb. once said "that's her/etc." & it went to the masses.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Emily on September 28, 2016, 06:02:16 PM
2Emily: I'll go with your initial statement that "In the case of "that is she" vs. "that is her," "that is she" would always be correct, but is never used." To me, "that is her" doesn't sound correct but I *will* & *do* use it because I hear it in conversational English in movies, books, songs. & that's what English teachers taught us in school. But it doesn't mean that anybody cannot question it & pay attention to, right? I'm just curious how this thing evolved historically. Maybe it's as simple as smb. once said "that's her/etc." & it went to the masses.
I have no problem at all with the question being asked. It's not the sort of topic everyone enjoys, but I do!


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on September 28, 2016, 06:15:05 PM
I have no problem at all with the question being asked. It's not the sort of topic everyone enjoys, but I do!
Thanks for understanding, same here. To get explanations about English from native speakers, discuss it with them in real time is mighty cool - that said, maybe smb. is aware of book(s) that details on correct vs. adopted way of conversing & many other things. Would be jolly good.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Jay on September 29, 2016, 12:21:10 AM
I have a question of my own. Is "jolly good" also a Russian phrase? I thought it was primarily British.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 29, 2016, 12:36:55 AM
That's a jolly good question.



Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on September 30, 2016, 01:45:58 PM
I have no problem at all with the question being asked. It's not the sort of topic everyone enjoys, but I do!
Thanks for understanding, same here. To get explanations about English from native speakers, discuss it with them in real time is mighty cool - that said, maybe smb. is aware of book(s) that details on correct vs. adopted way of conversing & many other things. Would be jolly good.

I applaud you for trying to figure our our crazy language. There are some recent trends that I, a native speaker don't understand.
I have noticed that instead of ending a sentence or phrase with "because of racism" for example, it is now "because racism". Not having that "of" makes it confusing to me. "Because racism what?" Have seen it with other words such as because millenials, because abortion, because...
If anyone can explain the reasoning behind the change it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: JK on September 30, 2016, 02:38:59 PM
I have noticed that instead of ending a sentence or phrase with "because of racism" for example, it is now "because racism". Not having that "of" makes it confusing to me. "Because racism what?" Have seen it with other words such as because millenials, because abortion, because...
If anyone can explain the reasoning behind the change it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

I find it as odd as you do. Here's an extensive discussion of this phenomenon:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6765099

I had the same problem way back when people began saying "I'm good" instead of "I'm well" when asked how they were. I must admit it sounds almost normal now...     


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on September 30, 2016, 03:26:49 PM
Thanks. It's apparently been used for several years but I've only noticed it since getting back on Facebook.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Emily on September 30, 2016, 04:26:53 PM
I have no problem at all with the question being asked. It's not the sort of topic everyone enjoys, but I do!
Thanks for understanding, same here. To get explanations about English from native speakers, discuss it with them in real time is mighty cool - that said, maybe smb. is aware of book(s) that details on correct vs. adopted way of conversing & many other things. Would be jolly good.

I applaud you for trying to figure our our crazy language. There are some recent trends that I, a native speaker don't understand.
I have noticed that instead of ending a sentence or phrase with "because of racism" for example, it is now "because racism". Not having that "of" makes it confusing to me. "Because racism what?" Have seen it with other words such as because millenials, because abortion, because...
If anyone can explain the reasoning behind the change it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
It's hard to explain through typing but as that link says, it implies an "obviously". This has been a verbal thing in my microculture my whole life. Imagine someone saying, "My mother was so upset that I didn't call because...mothers - you know how they are." You have to imagine a pause and an eyeroll or an "obviously" arm flourish.
Even though I've been saying things like this verbally all my life, I also only started seeing it in writing in the last few years and typed it myself for the first time within the last few days on this very board.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on September 30, 2016, 04:34:18 PM
The most common way I've been seeing it used lately has been - "because 'murica" (America). This is used in a disparaging way.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Emily on September 30, 2016, 04:43:18 PM
The most common way I've been seeing it used lately has been - "because 'murica" (America). This is used in a disparaging way.
I'll keep my eye out for that. I haven't seen it myself.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 30, 2016, 08:59:26 PM
The most common way I've been seeing it used lately has been - "because 'murica" (America). This is used in a disparaging way.
I'll keep my eye out for that. I haven't seen it myself.

i have...heck, I've used it!


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: undercover-m on October 03, 2016, 01:38:09 AM
Comic Sans MS

Distasteful, displeasing designs


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: JK on October 31, 2016, 05:20:21 AM
Folks who respond to a well-crafted, well-thought-out post with a vacant "Huh?" Better not to say anything at all, I would have thought.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on October 31, 2016, 05:37:15 AM
Folks who respond to a well-crafted, well-thought-out post with a vacant "Huh?" Better not to say anything at all, I would have thought.
Huh? J/k. Actually, you're right, it can be annoying. But some can ignore it masterfully or reply in kind. give change, you know.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: JK on November 25, 2016, 01:21:59 AM
Guilty pleasures, particularly in music. What the heck is a guilty pleasure? Surely either you like something or you don't!


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on November 25, 2016, 05:40:36 AM
Guilty pleasures, particularly in music. What the heck is a guilty pleasure? Surely either you like something or you don't!

I agree completely. So you like something unfashionable, something gauche, something too common? So what!? Stand up for yourselves, people.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Emily on November 27, 2016, 08:00:18 AM
I always think of the term "guilty pleasures" as things you enjoy despite the fact that they go against your own ethics. Things like (high quality) veal or foie gras for me, though actually I don't really like foie gras but it would be a good example if I did. Or things like delicious cake when you're considering yourself on a no-cake-like-things diet. This can go into music as well: music that in some way represents or forwards a trend or cultural aspect you don't support or that is by an artist you have issues with but, damn, that's a catchy song.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on November 27, 2016, 08:03:06 AM
That's an aspect I hadn't thought about. Thanks.

I still think it's illegitimate on the music front, because (for example) it's almost certainly the lyrics that would go against one's ethics: a sexist song, for example. But it's not only possible, but common to like one aspect or another about a song, especially if it has lyrics (as opposed to an instrumental work). So it's not hard to separate the part(s) one likes from the part(s) one doesn't.

Especially food-wise, though, that's a really good point.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on December 17, 2016, 11:09:52 AM
Ambiguous thread titles. F.ex. "Beautiful". Much as I find CenturyDeprived's thread ideas bonkers, at least they give away what the thread is about. & I look the other way. If the title is "Post your BBs collection", that way I know I don't have to check it as I don't care for it. By process of elimination, I check the topics that I'm really interested in. But these 1 word titles, "This is cool", "I have question" etc. play the trick to make people check it... only to see it's old news, posting of some seen-before video.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: JK on December 27, 2016, 02:15:27 AM
Energy drinks----the ones in cans which you find dropped mere paces away from a rubbish bin. They should call them apathy drinks.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on December 27, 2016, 02:58:20 AM
Energy drinks----the ones in cans which you find dropped mere paces away from a rubbish bin. They should call them apathy drinks.
Um, not sure what made you limit it to only that. Anything people threw near the garbage can does count. You talk bizarre. Sometimes I don't get what you say at all, john. But everybody's got quirks.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: thorgil on December 29, 2016, 03:27:24 AM
One of my pet peeves is very on-topic in this board: the idea that artistic value is somehow linked to commercial success, when it should be obvious to everybody that they are totally independent variables. Anything can be successful with or without artistic value, ditto unsuccessful.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: JK on December 29, 2016, 03:43:25 AM
Energy drinks----the ones in cans which you find dropped mere paces away from a rubbish bin. They should call them apathy drinks.
Um, not sure what made you limit it to only that. Anything people threw near the garbage can does count. You talk bizarre. Sometimes I don't get what you say at all, john. But everybody's got quirks.

Obviously I disapprove of all rubbish thus deposited. But the name Energy Drinks is ironic, don't you think? I think so anyway.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on December 29, 2016, 06:49:12 AM
Obviously I disapprove of all rubbish thus deposited. But the name Energy Drinks is ironic, don't you think? I think so anyway.

Reminds me of a student where I used to work - told everybody that he was going to our gym to work out. Yet he took the elevator (lift) instead of walking up two floors to get there. We razzed him.

Down here, a big problem is people in cars stopping for a red light, opening their windows, and throwing trash out, instead of keeping it until they get to where they are going and throwing it in the can. I used to blow my horn when they did this but am afraid to anymore - road rage is bad here.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Emily on January 03, 2017, 03:00:44 PM
People chomping and smacking and cracking and popping gum next to me on the train.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: JK on January 04, 2017, 05:20:13 AM
Down here, a big problem is people in cars stopping for a red light, opening their windows, and throwing trash out, instead of keeping it until they get to where they are going and throwing it in the can. I used to blow my horn when they did this but am afraid to anymore - road rage is bad here.

That's awful. While on the subject of driving, I don't know if it's a worldwide phenomenon but where I live it's the rule (rather than the exception) among drivers that everyone knows which way they're going so why indicate? Roundabouts are the worst places. The general behaviour there would be hilarious if it weren't life-threatening. Not indicating should be made a criminal offence. A stiff fine can work wonders. ;D


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on January 04, 2017, 06:37:12 AM
Down here, a big problem is people in cars stopping for a red light, opening their windows, and throwing trash out, instead of keeping it until they get to where they are going and throwing it in the can. I used to blow my horn when they did this but am afraid to anymore - road rage is bad here.

That's awful. While on the subject of driving, I don't know if it's a worldwide phenomenon but where I live it's the rule (rather than the exception) among drivers that everyone knows which way they're going so why indicate? Roundabouts are the worst places. The general behaviour there would be hilarious if it weren't life-threatening. Not indicating should be made a criminal offence. A stiff fine can work wonders. ;D
My dad was a deputy sheriff for a rural county when I was a kid. He talked all the time about accidents involving people not signaling or turning into this or that traffic explaining their stupidity along the lines of "well everyone knows I turn here; I always turn here."

(Let me assure you, even in rural areas, everyone does not know everyone else's car, much less driving and turning patterns.)


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: JK on January 17, 2017, 01:46:41 PM
Here's another minor peeve I was reminded of today, although it's hardly my problem, lol: 

- Murray (even from long-term fans who should know better)
- Rielly/Reilly/Riley/Reiley (all seen here in a single thread on Jack R!)
- Anniversario (there should be one n)
- Etc.

All it takes is a little care, folks.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: KDS on January 17, 2017, 01:59:15 PM
Here's another minor peeve I was reminded of today, although it's hardly my problem, lol: 

- Murray (even from long-term fans who should know better)
- Rielly/Reilly/Riley/Reiley (all seen here in a single thread on Jack R!)
- Anniversario (there should be one n)
- Etc.

All it takes is a little care, folks.

Misspelling proper names doesn't bother me nearly as much as the misuse of there/their/they're. 


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on January 17, 2017, 02:09:35 PM
I don't pay attention to typos/ misspellings, grammar mistakes IF the text is easy to understand. That said, "an history" & other "an h..." combination puzzles.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Jay on January 17, 2017, 02:56:15 PM
Here's another minor peeve I was reminded of today, although it's hardly my problem, lol: 

- Murray (even from long-term fans who should know better)
- Rielly/Reilly/Riley/Reiley (all seen here in a single thread on Jack R!)
- Anniversario (there should be one n)
- Etc.

All it takes is a little care, folks.

Misspelling proper names doesn't bother me nearly as much as the misuse of there/their/they're. 
I try to ignore grammar mistakes, but every time I read "would of" instead of "would have", I want to punch the computer screen.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: JK on January 18, 2017, 02:10:38 AM

Misspelling proper names doesn't bother me nearly as much as the misuse of there/their/they're.

I try to ignore grammar mistakes, but every time I read "would of" instead of "would have", I want to punch the computer screen.

Haha. Agreed on both counts. I believe the curious case of "it's/its" has already been discussed...


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: thorgil on January 18, 2017, 04:10:44 AM
The point is "would of" and the like are not grammatical mistakes. They are wilful butchering of a language.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: thorgil on January 18, 2017, 04:16:58 AM
Here's another minor peeve I was reminded of today, although it's hardly my problem, lol: 

- Murray (even from long-term fans who should know better)
- Rielly/Reilly/Riley/Reiley (all seen here in a single thread on Jack R!)
- Anniversario (there should be one n)
- Etc.

All it takes is a little care, folks.
Sorry, but "anniversario" depends on language. It's "anniversario" (so, correct) in Italian. "Aniversario" in Spanish. The seldom used but existing "anniversary" in English.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on January 18, 2017, 04:26:25 AM
Sorry, but "anniversario" depends on language. It's "anniversario" (so, correct) in Italian. "Aniversario" in Spanish. The seldom used but existing "anniversary" in English.
I think JK means poster Eric Aniversario.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: JK on January 18, 2017, 04:29:38 AM
Sorry, but "anniversario" depends on language. It's "anniversario" (so, correct) in Italian. "Aniversario" in Spanish. The seldom used but existing "anniversary" in English.

I think JK means poster Eric Aniversario.

Indeed I do. Thanks, RR.

He of the indispensable BB Setlist Archive and poster on this board.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: HeyJude on January 18, 2017, 06:30:51 AM
The point is "would of" and the like are not grammatical mistakes. They are wilful butchering of a language.

It bugs me as much as anyone, but I think one of the points is that it usually *isn't* willful. To me, a good amount of the frustration about people writing that is that they don't know they're making a mistake.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: LostArt on January 18, 2017, 08:54:27 AM
I've not read the whole thread, so apologies if this has been mentioned already.  I get annoyed when someone says, and I hear this literally every day, "I could care less", or even worse, "I could care".  Makes no sense. 


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Jay on January 18, 2017, 12:39:26 PM

Misspelling proper names doesn't bother me nearly as much as the misuse of there/their/they're.

I try to ignore grammar mistakes, but every time I read "would of" instead of "would have", I want to punch the computer screen.

Haha. Agreed on both counts. I believe the curious case of "it's/its" has already been discussed...
I'll be honest, I always confuse(read: don't understand lol) The difference between its/it's, and to/two/too. *hangs head*


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: thorgil on January 19, 2017, 03:45:10 AM
The point is "would of" and the like are not grammatical mistakes. They are wilful butchering of a language.

It bugs me as much as anyone, but I think one of the points is that it usually *isn't* willful. To me, a good amount of the frustration about people writing that is that they don't know they're making a mistake.
I think they know, but, as they would put it, "they could care less".


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on January 31, 2017, 10:02:43 AM
In family, friends, work gatherings, if smb. asks dumb question "Why don't you drink?" & says things like "Just a sip"/ "1 glass wouldn't hurt" etc. If you say you don't like the taste & prefer tea, fresh orange juice etc., they must respectfully stop asking & give reasons why you should. Esp. friends - no good/best friend - I reiterate NO good/best friend - will ask you to drink if 1st time you said "No". If you gave negative answer, it means exactly that - negative answer. If they annoyingly continue, I usually say "get lost, will ya?". & that's that.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: rab2591 on January 31, 2017, 10:21:12 AM
In family, friends, work gatherings, if smb. asks dumb question "Why don't you drink?" & says things like "Just a sip"/ "1 glass wouldn't hurt" etc. If you say you don't like the taste & prefer tea, fresh orange juice etc., they must respectfully stop asking & give reasons why you should. Esp. friends - no good/best friend - I reiterate NO good/best friend - will ask you to drink if 1st time you said "No". If you gave negative answer, it means exactly that - negative answer. If they annoyingly continue, I usually say "get lost, will ya?". & that's that.

Totally agree with this!

I've found the people who continuously push alcohol in those situations are the most annoying people anyways...which is why they push drinks because the only time you can stand to be around these people is if you're buzzed or drunk.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on January 31, 2017, 01:01:51 PM
Totally agree with this!

I've found the people who continuously push alcohol in those situations are the most annoying people anyways...which is why they push drinks because the only time you can stand to be around these people is if you're buzzed or drunk.
Thanks.

I mean they've got eyes, they see you with cup of tea. The brain should work fast & make them refrain from asking pointless question. If they drink - it's their problem. You don't have to join them if you don't like it being strict teetotaler.

Few years ago, in some BBs threads, people went on super-boring "beer talk" sidetrack as cheesy way to reconcile after debating sth. ::) To read thru that was real pain in the neck. Special topic was created in the Sandbox for it.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: rab2591 on January 31, 2017, 01:36:30 PM
The brain should work fast & make them refrain from asking pointless question.

I think, too, that they partially see it as asserting dominance. Drinking is very socially acceptable so if you're not drinking there must be something wrong with you (this is my perception of their mentality). Pushing drinks on someone who clearly doesn't want any alcohol in an environment where there are many people drinking is one way to point out the weak person in the herd.

I guess from life experience the only people who have pushed drinks on me are those who seem really insecure about themselves - and thus they usually try to find and point out the "flaws" in others. I drink when I want to drink, and if I'm around people who push drinks I'm more than likely not going to partake.

I remember those beer threads haha. Makes sense they were moved to the Sandbox - I don't mind talk about beer but I can see why most would find it distasteful in the on-topic section.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: SMiLE Brian on January 31, 2017, 02:27:43 PM
The beer talk was amazing!


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on January 31, 2017, 03:18:16 PM
I think, too, that they partially see it as asserting dominance. Drinking is very socially acceptable so if you're not drinking there must be something wrong with you (this is my perception of their mentality). Pushing drinks on someone who clearly doesn't want any alcohol in an environment where there are many people drinking is one way to point out the weak person in the herd.

I guess from life experience the only people who have pushed drinks on me are those who seem really insecure about themselves - and thus they usually try to find and point out the "flaws" in others. I drink when I want to drink, and if I'm around people who push drinks I'm more than likely not going to partake.

I remember those beer threads haha. Makes sense they were moved to the Sandbox - I don't mind talk about beer but I can see why most would find it distasteful in the on-topic section.
Yes, collective mind & all that. People like sheep. If you step outside - god forbid! - you'll be given weird looks. ::) I couldn't care less what's "very socially acceptable". Nobody must be easily influenced, esp. by bad habits. If your friends/ co-workers drink - cool. But that's, like, their problem. Just like you don't read them lecture about bad effects of drinking (which is fact), they musn't tell you join them. You said "No" & that's that. Basta.

I agree, they're *very* insecure. Re: beer talks, not just distasteful - REAL snoozefest. If they shoot the breeze about drinking & outclassing each other in trying different sorts in the Sandbox - no problem, I'll just ignore it. But to read it in the main board is joykill & annoying as all hell.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: rab2591 on February 01, 2017, 04:20:01 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/pFvnmLN.jpg)

Knowing that Trump is going to do something stupid every day of his presidency and our Beach Boys board will continue to be saturated with daily posts like this for the next four, possibly eight years.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on February 11, 2017, 09:18:55 AM
Jive talk. Just watch this What's My Line? mystery guest episode with Julie London (https://youtu.be/ArvFclk3uiM?t=1168). All 4 panelists seem rather annoyed by her "You know, like" answers. They seem confused as to what she even says. Then moderator John Daly tries to translate it into normal speech & then at one point ends it with "You dig?". Everybody laughs, even Julie. But yes, it is painful to hear.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on February 11, 2017, 10:10:49 AM
Crybabies and busybodies.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 11, 2017, 10:15:36 AM
Liars and hypocrites.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on February 11, 2017, 10:32:54 AM
The smelly orange-yellow berries (?) on the sidewalk down the block and unshoveled sidewalks that have become slick water-and-ice patches.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on February 11, 2017, 11:33:55 AM
Jive talk. Just watch this What's My Line? mystery guest episode with Julie London (https://youtu.be/ArvFclk3uiM?t=1168). All 4 panelists seem rather annoyed by her "You know, like" answers. They seem confused as to what she even says. Then moderator John Daly tries to translate it into normal speech & then at one point ends it with "You dig?". Everybody laughs, even Julie. But yes, it is painful to hear.

"Line" is a great show that I used to watch with my parents in the 50's and 60's. Love the b/w, the panelists and Daly. Revisiting all the old shows on ME TV.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 11, 2017, 01:03:02 PM
Jive talk. Just watch this What's My Line? mystery guest episode with Julie London (https://youtu.be/ArvFclk3uiM?t=1168). All 4 panelists seem rather annoyed by her "You know, like" answers. They seem confused as to what she even says. Then moderator John Daly tries to translate it into normal speech & then at one point ends it with "You dig?". Everybody laughs, even Julie. But yes, it is painful to hear.

Just to make sure, I want to point out that the show had guests who had to mislead the panelists so they wouldn't guess their identity, and one way was to deliberately throw them off by speaking differently than they did in reality. Julie London was a pretty well-known celebrity of that era and had a successful career as a jazz singer. "Julie Is Her Name" vols. 1 and 2 are personal favorites, and she scored a very big hit with the song Cry Me A River from vol. 1. She was speaking that way because it was part of the pop culture of that time. She was playing the game and doing the same comedy bit as others back then, including the Brian Wilson favorite "How To Speak Hip". She did not speak that way in real life, it was for that game show.

On those same lines, if that kind of talk is a pet peeve, definitely avoid reruns of the 50's TV shows "77 Sunset Strip" and "The Many Loves Of Dobie Gillis", especially the characters Edd "Kookie" Byrnes and Maynard G. Krebs.  ;D  That lingo was their whole schtick.

That post is dedicated to all the hep cats and cool kitties out there makin' the scene, you dig?


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: SMiLE Brian on February 11, 2017, 01:05:36 PM
Right-o daddy-o! ;)


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 11, 2017, 01:22:19 PM
That's real gone, man, swingsville! A total gas.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on February 11, 2017, 01:48:33 PM
2guitarfool2002: Yes, I'm aware of the rules. :) I know every panelist that's been there, celebrity (f.ex. music field, Frank Zappa, Peter Paul & Mary appeared in the show). That Marilyn Monroe never was there, nor Audrey Hepburn. It's shame that some kinescopes were lost.

I've been saying it's my favorite show in various threads now. Nobody picked it. Julie London is brought to illustrate jive talk which I don't like. It was of the times but the panelists do seem annoyed & confused in that clip. But then again, they're senior than Julie London age group. The oldest is Bennett Cerf, co-founder of "Random House Publishing".

John Daly has the best TV voice, from the shows I'd seen. Art Carney made funny parody of him. It must be in Youtube, search "Art Carney what's my line". & he was mystery guest twice. EDIT: Here's that WML spoof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5YyAjryAt8

Thanks for the cat reference (but not for hip talk) :D!


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Rick5150 on February 12, 2017, 05:26:25 AM
Bumper stickers. Hate 'em. I don't care if your kid is an honor student, or if your kid beat up my honor student, or if you hate Obama, or if you think it's funny that Calvin pisses on a certain baseball team's logo, what religion you are, what (un)clever phrases you're amused by...I just care that you drive safe.

That is actually a pet peeve of mine. I am not sure when "drive safely" became "drive safe" but it drives me crazy.  :-D So does shorthand texting. An educated adult who writes "Ur correct" or "leave B4 it rains" sounds like an idiot to me. (I also love decals. I have them all over my Jeep. I do not care for the ones that you mention though. I like fun ones.)

(http://www.ricktheriault.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/71jqFsD293L._SY355_.jpg)



Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on February 12, 2017, 08:03:31 AM
re: Bumper Stickers
I have a photo that I took several years ago of the back of a truck in a parking lot. Took the picture because it was plastered in bumper stickers. "Obama - Undocumented Worker", "Where's the Birth Certificate?" "drill Drill DRILL!" etc.
No it didn't change my mind. Made the truck owner look silly, and gave me a chuckle as it was so over the top.

A big pet peeve is someone who doesn't agree with a post calling the original poster names such as "Libtard" instead of stating what exactly is so disagreeable about the post. The worst is "Fake News!"
Seems like a lot of people are putting their fingers in their ears, saying "lalala" loudly so as to not hear the other side. (This goes for both sides)


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: guitarfool2002 on February 12, 2017, 08:11:12 AM
2guitarfool2002: Yes, I'm aware of the rules. :) I know every panelist that's been there, celebrity (f.ex. music field, Frank Zappa, Peter Paul & Mary appeared in the show). That Marilyn Monroe never was there, nor Audrey Hepburn. It's shame that some kinescopes were lost.

I've been saying it's my favorite show in various threads now. Nobody picked it. Julie London is brought to illustrate jive talk which I don't like. It was of the times but the panelists do seem annoyed & confused in that clip. But then again, they're senior than Julie London age group. The oldest is Bennett Cerf, co-founder of "Random House Publishing".

John Daly has the best TV voice, from the shows I'd seen. Art Carney made funny parody of him. It must be in Youtube, search "Art Carney what's my line". & he was mystery guest twice. EDIT: Here's that WML spoof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5YyAjryAt8

Thanks for the cat reference (but not for hip talk) :D!

That's cool, I was posting as a big Julie London fan (and Bobby Troup fan) in case anyone thought that was the real Julie talking in hep cat like that.  :)

Speaking of 50's TV show parodies, one of the best I've seen was Sid Caesar spoofing "This Is Your Life" where he gets chosen but the security guards have to literally chase him around the studio to drag him onto the stage for him to be the guest on the show. Has to be seen to be appreciated.

(http://www.dougamey.com/images-graphic-design/beatnik-cat/Beatnik-Cat.jpg)


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on March 26, 2017, 08:24:34 AM
I might have listed this within the thread already, but frankly it's not worth digging through 11 pages. So, here's one that really annoys me: when people begin a sentence with "And again..." before going on to say something they have not yet said. It seems to be an increasingly common practice that I assume is nothing more than "um" or "uh," just a placeholder while someone formulates his actual thoughts. Other times I think it's just intended to emphasize the upcoming point. Either way, it's annoying.



Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: B.E. on May 06, 2017, 11:46:19 AM
Bullying. All forms of bullying. I've got a long list of pet peeves (that i'll eventually share here) but none affect my life as profoundly. I can't stand it.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: JK on September 19, 2017, 10:56:36 AM
Going to YouTube to listen to a symphony and reading the top comment: "I have to listen to this sh*t for homework".

A minor peeve, perhaps. But still...


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: KDS on September 19, 2017, 11:34:36 AM
The acronym GOAT for Greatest Of All Time, especially when it comes to sports. 

Growing up, if you were the GOAT in a sport, that likely meant you cost your team a big game.  Now, if you're a GOAT, you're the greatest.  Weird. 

Less annoying is when I go on Facebook in mid July and see posts like "I'm so ready for leaves, hoodies, bonfires, and pumpkin spice lattes."  Summer goes fast enough, let's not rush it. 


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: KDS on September 20, 2017, 07:48:03 AM
I forgot to mention this one yesterday. 

Beer snobs

I can handle music snobs (I've been accused of being one, but I've paid to see Poison in concert, so.....), movie snobs, etc etc. 

But pretentious beer snobs are the worst.  "Oh, you're drinking a Miller Lite, why not try something with flavor instead of that trash beer?  Here's a Bourbon Barrel Cask Ginger Root Infused Sour IPA." 

Maybe I buy so called "trash beer" because I don't think it's worth it to spend up to $14 for a sixer of craft stuff, or up to $8.00 for a draft at the bar.  Maybe, I actually like the taste.  It was good enough for my grandfather, and my parents. 


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: JK on November 23, 2017, 04:52:22 AM
Every week I spend an hour at the gym. Although the music they play is not what I listen to at home, it has been mostly okay, in-one-ear-and-out-the-other kind of stuff. Very occasionally I've heard something that made my ears prick up.

Unfortunately these days it's super-repetitive to the point of being unlistenable at times. It has driven me out on more than one occasion. Anyway, everyone is working out at their own speed, which is rarely if ever in sync with what's playing. A backcloth of ambient music strikes me as being a much better idea----or even classical music.

A minor peeve, really...


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: undercover-m on February 07, 2018, 09:42:40 AM
I forgot to mention this one yesterday. 

Beer snobs

I can handle music snobs (I've been accused of being one, but I've paid to see Poison in concert, so.....), movie snobs, etc etc. 

But pretentious beer snobs are the worst.  "Oh, you're drinking a Miller Lite, why not try something with flavor instead of that trash beer?  Here's a Bourbon Barrel Cask Ginger Root Infused Sour IPA." 

Maybe I buy so called "trash beer" because I don't think it's worth it to spend up to $14 for a sixer of craft stuff, or up to $8.00 for a draft at the bar.  Maybe, I actually like the taste.  It was good enough for my grandfather, and my parents. 
I had a coconut porter that was damn tasty last night, but I agree there's no need to put other people down cos they enjoy a Miller Lite over a bitter IPA (porters and pilsners are better anyway, haha).

If you drink Natural Ice, then we have a problem. I'm perfectly fine drinking PBR, and I had my first Coors last night (because the coconut porter got me kind of drunk and I wanted to keep that up). Rural IL has much more affordable craft beers than the heart of Seattle, which doesn't surprise me, of course.

I made a list a while ago, and I'm finally gonna post it. It's a lot longer than I remember it being:
Things That Irk Me:
- People who wear athletic clothing (like Nike and Lululemon) but don’t actually go to the gym. Gym clothes tend to be pricey, and the fact that these people are able to both flaunt their wealth and not use the clothing for its intended purpose is just astonishing. (I’m a runner so maybe this pisses me off more, i dunno)
- Improper waste disposal: Rinse out your dirty recyclables, pick up litter if there’s a trash nearby, compost whenever you can. And please don't put that glass bottle in the trash when there's a recycling bin RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
- People who ask, “Where do you get your protein?” after informing them of my vegetarianism. I eat a ton of eggs, an assortment of vegetables, rice and beans, the occasional fake meat, tofu, and chia seeds, flaxseeds, peanut butter, greek yogurt…. Stop asking if I miss meat or feel weak, goddammit.
- People who wear shoes as slippers, consequently ruining the heel
- Tiny dogs, mostly because they’re such an extreme and pretty cruel example of selective breeding and how it can ruin a species. I don’t have anything against tiny dogs themselves (it’s not their fault), just the stupid humans that bred them.
- Using “Yea” instead of “Yeah.” Yea indicates you’re voting in favor of something, not casually saying, “Yes,” and is pronounced differently.
- People who get annoyed when I ask them if they want a bag (I used to be a grocery cashier). They act like I’m stupid, exclaiming, “Of course; do you think I can carry everything in my hands?” I’m sorry, maybe you have reusable bags in your pockets, or maybe you could use your pockets, OR MAYBE YOUR HANDS BECAUSE YOU ONLY BOUGHT TWO ITEMS.
- Missing album artwork on iTunes.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: KDS on February 07, 2018, 09:59:43 AM
I forgot to mention this one yesterday. 

Beer snobs

I can handle music snobs (I've been accused of being one, but I've paid to see Poison in concert, so.....), movie snobs, etc etc. 

But pretentious beer snobs are the worst.  "Oh, you're drinking a Miller Lite, why not try something with flavor instead of that trash beer?  Here's a Bourbon Barrel Cask Ginger Root Infused Sour IPA." 

Maybe I buy so called "trash beer" because I don't think it's worth it to spend up to $14 for a sixer of craft stuff, or up to $8.00 for a draft at the bar.  Maybe, I actually like the taste.  It was good enough for my grandfather, and my parents. 
I had a coconut porter that was damn tasty last night, but I agree there's no need to put other people down cos they enjoy a Miller Lite over a bitter IPA (porters and pilsners are better anyway, haha).

If you drink Natural Ice, then we have a problem. I'm perfectly fine drinking PBR, and I had my first Coors last night (because the coconut porter got me kind of drunk and I wanted to keep that up). Rural IL has much more affordable craft beers than the heart of Seattle, which doesn't surprise me, of course.


I tend not to drink "Ice" beer anymore.  I really used to enjoy it, but it tends to leave me with a headache. 


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on February 08, 2018, 09:33:47 AM
There used to be this girl in college that talked with REALLY high volume, laughed loudly, too lively for my tastes. Why not keep it down, for pete's sake? She's not alone. Once I fed up by it & said "Can't you just shut up & stop blabbering?". She looked like deer in headlights. Her fault.

What else, ha. People walking & taking the whole pavement space. F.ex. 5 friends, you must literally break the wall. Kids bragging the new trend - hoverboards. In U.S. movies, it's really annoying to see people given brown paper bags in food shop. It's handle-free, i.e. difficult to carry AND it's paper which can tear fast. Here, it's plastic bags. Best bag is noisy type, not smooth. The former can withstand, say, 10 kg (of course if you didn't buy sth. with sharp edges).


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on February 10, 2018, 06:15:27 PM
myKe luHv's face in their avatar is a total WTF.  ???




Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on February 11, 2018, 02:01:06 PM
In U.S. movies, it's really annoying to see people given brown paper bags in food shop. It's handle-free, i.e. difficult to carry AND it's paper which can tear fast. Here, it's plastic bags.

I don't remember many movies that had scenes in grocery stores or supermarkets - only one I can think of off the top of my head is Shawshank Redemption, which took place before plastic bags were used. But again, you have seen a lot more movies than I have.
In a growing number of US cities, plastic bags have been banned for environmental reasons. They can't be recycled easily. They haven't been banned in my city yet. The southern US (with the exception of Austin, Texas), has been very "backward" on anything dealing with the environment.
I sometimes go to stores that use plastic bags. I reuse them to get rid of cat poop from the litter pan. I've noticed that the plastic bags are rather flimsy, often with tiny holes in the bottom, so have to stick an extra bag inside to keep the used cat litter from leaking out.
I do get paper bags at some stores and these bags have handles. For heavier groceries the clerk double bags it (puts one bag inside another). However the handles sometimes fail, so I am very careful if the bag contains eggs or an item made of glass.
I do have some canvas tote bags that can be used to put groceries in, and really should use those more.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on February 16, 2018, 09:41:57 AM
Every grocery store I've seen here for the past 20 years or store uses paper bags with handles (as well as plastic bags in many/most stores, depending on specific environmental regulations). I think handle-less paper grocery bags are a relic of the past for the most part.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on February 17, 2018, 07:02:40 PM
Quote
However the handles sometimes fail
They should, really - it's paper. Why even bother carve handles in paper bags? Beats me. I'd seen movie as recent as 2012 & it depicts the year it's made too. But, the character carried it with hands. I didn't see handles showing up there. Then again, it's mere movie.

To add:

- public etiquette lack such as people busy talking by the phone, texting in the middle of walkers' path, PDA, careless bicycle riders/ roller skaters/ skateboarders, people working with shoulders to get thru, spitting in the street etc. (me & Emily discussed it via messages, she brought her example about sitting in the train sandwiched between pair making out, when she was about to leave she had to tell them to let her go. Despite me & Emily being, I think, completely different, glad to get to consensus that it's impolite behavior)
- people changing last names, esp. women. I can see if she'd like to change stupid/ ugly/ the like last name but seems they think if they marry they must change it. Smb. should tell them it's not obligation.
- people dragging their private problems into workplace, telling it everybody as if they care (me & Mikie in emails agreed it's annoying as hell)

Btw, subscribed to some nice U.S. lady's FB & discovered such thing as Festivus & "air grievances" tradition. When I read her FB friends' replies, it seemed similar to pet peeves.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: undercover-m on February 17, 2018, 07:56:25 PM
- people dragging their private problems into workplace, telling it everybody as if they care (me & Mikie in emails agreed it's annoying as hell)
One of my former co-workers was like this. Nice enough guy, but every time I came into work he would ask how I was, only because I would reply, "Well. how are you doing?" and then have him explain how horrible his day has been. Basically, he only asked how I was to start a conversation about him. Oh well..


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on February 17, 2018, 09:02:05 PM
I had a coworker like that, too. For years, she would jump at every chance to ask “how are you?” only because soon after, she could vomit everything about—and, apparently synonymously, everything wrong with—her life. Sore back. Menstrual cramps. Intestinal discomfort. Landlord issues. The precise complaint behind a doctor’s appointment requiring an afternoon off.

Eventually, courtesy be damned, I just stopped asking.

“How are you?”

“Fine.”

(Walks away in silence.)


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on February 18, 2018, 01:01:49 AM
Examples the 2 of you brought tell that this tendency is popular around the world.

I'd like to bring the dialog with Emily, it's related to this thread. 1st asked her about if it's OK & acceptable to befriend co-workers, lunch together (dining out in restaurant at business meeting aside) at the break etc., if such behavior is usual thing in U.S. I said people at work must not befriend anybody, it isn't professional. She answered:

This can be a challenge. If you work somewhere for years, you will end up being friends with some people, but you do have to be careful to not show preferences, particularly if you manage other people, of course. It is common in the US to go to lunch together in groups from work.

The next question was inspired by observations here that, if somebody goes with name & last name, f.ex. Cam Mott, you refer to them by 1st name. I told Emily it's familiarity, if the poster's name is "Custom Machine", don't you think it's polite to say "Mr. Machine", then Mr. Mott, Mr. Jude (this or full username)? Esp. since poster "Cam Mott" is senior, don't you call senior people Mr. & M(r)s. in the U.S. to pay respect?

Emily's answer:

Quote
The US is pretty casual. I usually will say Mr. xx the first few times I talk to someone, but once it becomes friendly back and forth a few times, I will change to the first name. But at work, for instance, everyone goes by first names always. No one calls anyone Mr. or Ms. X at work. And if you meet a client or vendor or someone, you will usually introduce yourself with first name only "hi, nice to meet you; I'm Emily" like that, then you use first names.
Normally here it's only people much older you use Mr. or Ms.

I think on a message board we are all meant to be peers, in which case we all go by first name, regardless of age. Also we often don't know what someone's actual name is. So when I first got here, I called Cam Mott 'Cam Mott' because I didn't know if his user name was his real name or just two random words, or what. Then when I learned it was his name, I say 'Cam' not 'Cameron' because 'Cam' is the name he gave. So if someone introduces themselves to me as 'Billy' I'll call them 'Billy'. If they introduce themselves as 'William' I'll call them 'William.' It's only some few hierarchical situations in which we would still use Mr. or Ms. Student/teacher, for sure. Usually your friend's parents if you are young and usually when greeting someone you have not met with which you have a business meeting. Though usually you will switch to first names quickly if you will have an ongoing business relationship. Sales people will often use Mr. or Ms. as well.  

Regarding Cam Mott specifically, he hasn't

Reading the 1st answer, it made me ask her if people at work can't eat alone (actually, now that I mentioned it, it's broader: people really can't go alone to eat in cafe, can't go to the pictures alone etc. which is funny-peculiar).

She said:

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I sometimes definitely prefer to eat alone. But now and then I like to go out with colleagues to eat as well. No one minds if you go out alone to eat, but if you eat in a cafeteria it's considered rude/weird to eat alone. I don't know why and sometimes I find it tiresome. I suppose everyone does, but it's a social expectation. US workplaces put a lot of emphasis on being a "team" and a "team player" etc.

It's been year-plus since this dialog, I see the point now about message boards/ 1st names/ peers. But - it's big but - it isn't right/ competent to use these "Katyenka", "Yulechka", "Sashenka", "Anechka". At work it must be "Ekaterina Andreevna", "Yuliya Stepanovna", "Alexandra Denisovna", "Anna Kirillovna".


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: JK on February 18, 2018, 05:34:26 AM
I'd like to bring the dialog with Emily, it's related to this thread.

Are you still in touch with Emily? She made some great posts in her day...


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Jay on February 18, 2018, 04:37:34 PM
We're those quotes from posts she made or pm's? Just curious.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on February 19, 2018, 06:26:54 AM
Are you still in touch with Emily? She made some great posts in her day...
When she visited this board. She said she's FB friends with Smiley posters, maybe they talk there.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Gabo on February 19, 2018, 10:18:52 AM
guys who don't leave the seat down


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: rab2591 on February 19, 2018, 10:31:34 AM
guys who don't leave the seat down

On the flip side of this, women (or men) who complain about men doing this because they nearly fell into the toilet. It’s like, do you not look before you go to sit down somewhere? As disgusting as leaving the seat up is, for the love of it when it comes to a toilet it’s in your best interest to look at where you’re about to sit, regardless of the seat issue.

That being said, you’re totally right. I think some university did a study and found that when you flush and leave the seat up, tiny particles and liquid from the toilet shoot out all over the bathroom. Makes me cringe when those automatic flushers in public restrooms go off.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: SMiLE Brian on February 19, 2018, 10:38:05 AM
Public restrooms.... :P


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Gabo on February 19, 2018, 10:42:29 AM
Public restrooms.... :P

When I use the men's restroom I don't care. When I use the women's restroom I care a lot!


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Jay on February 19, 2018, 11:35:16 AM
I've been seeing a lot of people mixing up the words "ever" and "every". It's quickly becoming a pet peeve.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on February 19, 2018, 12:28:27 PM
I don't even understand how someone could every do that. But I guess you learn something new ever day...


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: JK on February 19, 2018, 01:19:21 PM
Are you still in touch with Emily? She made some great posts in her day...
When she visited this board. She said she's FB friends with Smiley posters, maybe they talk there.

Thanks, RR. That's cool if they do.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: JK on February 19, 2018, 01:21:15 PM
I don't even understand how someone could every do that. But I guess you learn something new ever day...

 :lol


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: undercover-m on February 19, 2018, 03:50:57 PM
I don't even understand how someone could every do that. But I guess you learn something new ever day...
And the captain's wit is at it again! ;D

Speaking of, well, improper speaking, someone I know keeps referring to carbon monoxide as CO2. What happened to basic understandings of suf- and prefixes?


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: undercover-m on February 23, 2018, 06:51:39 AM
Not a pet peeve exactly, but someone owes me over $200 in utilities, and it's pissing me off. Granted, he's in a tight financial situation because his cat just got dental surgery, but... this poor cat had a dental disease, and he was feeding him cheap dry food. He never took any preventative measures, and it wasn't until his cat was literally pawing at his face in pain until he did something (instead of doing it earlier when it would have been cheaper and they wouldn't have had to remove most of his teeth?) And now, a few days after surgery, his cat had already gone back on dry food.... Also, he never cleans his litter box.
To boot, this person also drinks on a daily basis, supposedly to help him sleep, but using alcohol to fall asleep every night just causes insomnia and dries your bank account. He's either at bars or downing a six pack (or both) every night. I'm not living with this person anymore, fortunately, but he has literally never paid me for utilities in the year we were roommates... Maybe I sound harsh, but I don't know how you can be 28 and not have any financial responsibility (or know how to take care of your cat!).

(this is not Bubbly Waves, to be clear. Bubs and I had to suffer through shitty roommates together.)


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: SMiLE Brian on February 23, 2018, 07:11:17 AM
I hear you on bad roommates.... :P


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on February 23, 2018, 07:11:51 AM
And you've triggered me...

Circa 2002ish, mid-twentysomething me agrees with one of my roommates that his girlfriend should move in. (That would make four of us, but it was a five-bedroom house. Ought not have been an issue.) They broke up almost immediately. They both remained in the house anyway. So, awkward start.

She began using her depression as an excuse for everything. Now, I'm not insensitive to depression: several members of my immediate family have been diagnosed and treated (and frankly I could quite easily go get formally diagnosed and treated as well, but I feel like I get by OK), to say nothing of assorted friends in similar boats. So believe me, I get it. But that doesn't mean you're absolved of responsibility to, you know, pay rent. Or utilities. Or cable. Or whatever. Yes, yes, you're poor because you didn't go to work this week because of your depression. But I noticed the stack of CDs and the stack of DVDs you bought on new release day. I noticed your nights at the bar. And so on.

There are so many stories that go beyond the scope of this conversation, but I'll spare you. Suffice to say, she inspired me to get my sh*t together, save money, rent my own place, and just more or less accept that I'll never see the thousand-plus dollars she never did bother paying.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: SMiLE Brian on February 23, 2018, 08:16:45 AM
Mine was kinda along those lines....

Anyway, my roommate had his crazy GF move in and they had intercourse 5-6 times a day. How do I know, the house's paper thin walls and the guy later seeing a doctor....


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on June 04, 2018, 12:08:51 AM
People working in food shops don't check expiration dates - if it runs out, the prices stay the same. Which is big cheat. It's big consumer rule - here at least - that when the food's date expires, the shops must diminish the price. It's really maddening. Sure, food doesn't get stale just few days past expiration date, it can be edible, depending which food it is, but it's violating the rule.



Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: JK on June 04, 2018, 04:29:01 AM
People working in food shops don't check expiration dates - if it runs out, the prices stay the same. Which is big cheat. It's big consumer rule - here at least - that when the food's date expires, the shops must diminish the price. It's really maddening. Sure, food doesn't get stale just few days past expiration date, it can be edible, depending which food it is, but it's violating the rule.

Sometimes my local supermarket sticks a label over the best-by date on milk cartons and the like that says "There's nothing wrong with this product. Buy it and help save the environment". ;D


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on June 04, 2018, 06:28:43 AM
Markets here in the US might have items, mainly vegetables and meats, with a tag saying "reduced for quick sale" if their time for expiration was approaching.
At bakeries, day old pastries are sold at a discount. Steaming or microwaving for a few seconds usually make them taste just fine.

But I am noticing more and more that stores aren't checking the expiration dates for items. Yes, a lot of products can be eaten past the expiry date but I don't want to take a chance with meat, fish or milk. My Mother drinks milk and it's frustrating to open the container and it's already gone bad.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: KDS on June 04, 2018, 07:26:02 AM
Markets here in the US might have items, mainly vegetables and meats, with a tag saying "reduced for quick sale" if their time for expiration was approaching.
At bakeries, day old pastries are sold at a discount. Steaming or microwaving for a few seconds usually make them taste just fine.

But I am noticing more and more that stores aren't checking the expiration dates for items. Yes, a lot of products can be eaten past the expiry date but I don't want to take a chance with meat, fish or milk. My Mother drinks milk and it's frustrating to open the container and it's already gone bad.

Yep, that happened to me on a fairly recent trip to the grocery store.   I took some a container of milk without looking, and the expiration date had already come and gone.   


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on June 04, 2018, 08:01:17 AM
Decided to delete post. Just frustrated at how my country is going downhill.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on June 04, 2018, 05:55:11 PM
Decided to delete post. Just frustrated at how my country is going downhill.

That's too bad. I was about to comment on it.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: JK on June 05, 2018, 02:28:49 AM
Decided to delete post. Just frustrated at how my country is going downhill.

I've got into trouble in the past for deleting stuff too hastily. These days I save anything I delete just in case someone like Choc has already decided to pitch in.

What you consider to be over the top may make perfect sense to others. ;=)


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on June 05, 2018, 04:49:56 AM
It's a big pet peeve of mine - how so many in the U.S. are satisfied with our country being "mediocre" in regards to health care, education , etc. 


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: JK on June 13, 2018, 07:35:42 AM
Anyway, my roommate had his crazy GF move in and they had intercourse 5-6 times a day. How do I know, the house's paper thin walls and the guy later seeing a doctor....

 :lol


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on June 26, 2018, 04:36:28 PM
Mobile phone operators = clueless stupid fakedly polite
slowpokes' club.
Frankly lotta things & people annoy - about 85%.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on July 02, 2018, 08:22:52 AM
When invited to people's house, the hosts say "Pics disallowed". Yep, big crime to steal cool creative interior design ideas to use in house you live.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Buckethead on July 02, 2018, 07:11:00 PM
I've never had an invitation disallowing pictures.  What are these people afraid of? That their living room wall color might show up a bit too beige on Facebook? Seems odd unless someone is in the Witness Protection Program!


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on July 02, 2018, 09:20:59 PM
I like accessible easygoing people who, when I'm invited, say "Be like home". F.ex. chocolate is favorite food, I've got habit to seek chocolate in people's fridges/ freezers. & I usually check photo albums when I see it. Good host will allow to take it to look at pictures. But at least it would be fair if they didn't allow to do those things. In chocolate case, if they've big fam with lotta kids, it'll make sense that they don't give it to guest. In photo album case, there could be embarrassing/ super ugly pics everybody would be hesitant to show.

But what's the point to disallow taking pics? There'd be no skin off them. Even in fashion shops you can take pics, nobody says "Don't! This is top secret!". But here we talk about just plain houses with people living there & they don't allow. What's this snobbery for?


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Jay on July 03, 2018, 03:30:39 PM
Why on earth would you go through another person's refrigerator, or randomly take pictures inside their house??? That is not normal acceptable behavior.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Buckethead on July 03, 2018, 04:05:10 PM
I took RRA1's post to mean that it is normal for people to take pictures at gatherings, in people's homes and otherwise, and parts of the house would typically be in the frames. While I would not on my own seek out treats in a host's refrigerator, I do tell guests that I hope that they will help themselves. This includes stuff in the fridge, looking through photo albums I have out, etc.

A huge pet peeve I have is when people tell you something upsetting about an unkind/thoughtless/selfish/ridiculous family member. When you use precious emotional energy to listen carefully and express empathy for what the sharer is feeling, they start defending the person or otherwise getting indignant and lambasting you as if you have initiated he whole thing. Another reaction is to point out the behavioral/personality flaws of my own loved ones. This has happened with several acquaintances, after which I remain silent the next time the baiting begins.

Pet Peeve #2: When people make it a point to say, "In MY family we..." then describe things that healthy families do - have traditions, take care of their children, eat dinner together when possible, etc. This confused me for years, as my inference was that other families, and mine in particular, don't do these things because we don't see fit to randomly announce it. Only recently have i come to understand that these utterances were really attempts for the insecure speaker to convince him/herself and others that the family was somewhat healthy and normal. Me? I come from a family like most others, wonderful in many ways, dysfunctional in others, but it never occurred to (mis?)represent my loved ones  and our relationships one way or another for effect.   


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 03, 2018, 08:03:10 PM
Me personally I wouldn't like someone going in my fridge without my permission, especially when it comes to taking pictures!


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on July 03, 2018, 08:53:55 PM
I took RRA1's post to mean that it is normal for people to take pictures at gatherings, in people's homes and otherwise, and parts of the house would typically be in the frames. While I would not on my own seek out treats in a host's refrigerator, I do tell guests that I hope that they will help themselves. This includes stuff in the fridge, looking through photo albums I have out, etc.
It's normality here to take pics/ look inside fridge. Face it, it's normal in the U.S. as well. In U.S. films, when there's guests gathered in smb.'s house, they do what they like to - look around the house, move about, take various things, knick-knack from shelf & touch it, go to kitchen, pour some drink/ grab some bite. I didn't see anybody there that would ask permission. Smb. tell the difference between what they do & I do.
I'm really into various house design, I collect the house interior ideas by taking pictures, it's fascinating. It shouldn't be big deal, yes? But ofc, if people here wish to lecture that it's bad thing & everybody in the U.S. is very nice & stands/ sits like robot when being guest, they're welcome to lecture.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 03, 2018, 09:18:24 PM
Depends. For me, if I am a guest and I would want a drink of water or pop, I'd ask before I go into their fridge. I certainly wouldn't start taking pictures of it without asking! But, that's me...I notice common courtesy has pretty much gone out the window in this day and age (proof- see how people act on the highways) so I may be an oddity these days


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Jay on July 03, 2018, 09:46:06 PM
It's most definitely not acceptable behavior in the USA.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on July 03, 2018, 10:03:07 PM
2Billy: You'd ask before doing such trifle as taking pics & looking in the fridge? Fail to see what's discourteous about it. People acting in the highways is indeed big deal/ issue. But not what we talked about the past few posts.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 03, 2018, 11:05:03 PM
2Billy: You'd ask before doing such trifle as taking pics & looking in the fridge? Fail to see what's discourteous about it. People acting in the highways is indeed big deal/ issue. But not what we talked about the past few posts.

Definitely before taking pictures. Of course it depends on how well you know the person, but many do consider it rude. As far as going through someone else’s fridge, it is considered to be bad manners at the very best a majority of the time (overstepping one’s boundaries) although that doesn’t apply for roommates and during parties as far as looking goes...taking stuff from someone’s fridge without asking though, is a big no no.

I do want to say that I misread the post and thought it was referring to taking pictures of the stuff inside someone’s fridge!


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on July 04, 2018, 03:42:57 AM
I would never snoop around someone's house and would never help myself to items in the refrigerator without asking first. If a door is closed to a room that's telling me that the people at that place don't want anyone to go in there.
This might not be such a problem nowadays as newer bathrooms might not have medicine cabinets (a cabinet with a mirror over the bathroom sink where medicines, toothpaste and other toiletries are stored). Some people would get annoyed with guests snooping and opening the cabinet, so they booby trapped the cabinet. If someone opened the cabinet, loads of ping pong balls would fall out, causing a racket and embarrassing the guest!


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on July 04, 2018, 04:28:35 AM
2NOLA BBF: Did I say ANYthing about snooping around house? What you're even talking about? I said just 2 things - looking into fridge & checking photographs in photo album. What you talk about is not what I said. Who you reply to? I hate when people misread what I say & turn it into sth. bigger than it is.

Obviously-clearly, nobody would think about opening the door to the closed room. That's, like, every fool knows.

Can't believe that many of you seemed to not get what I said. Do I speak English so badly that you read sth. else in everything I say?


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on July 04, 2018, 05:56:19 AM
Sorry to misunderstand you. You said in an earlier post that it's normal here for guests to move around the house, take things off the shelves to look at them etc.
Sorry again.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on July 04, 2018, 07:27:53 AM
I'd seen guests do it in U.S. films which I stated in the post very clearly. If what they show Americans do in American films isn't real picture of real American lifestyle, etiquette, habits, courtesy definition etc., it's the films' fault, not mine.

I replied here the next pet peeve, as thread title says. It should be respected, not condemned. I'm within rights of this thread's premise. & I'll post here again when I like to. We'll agree to disagree about the fridge-looking & picture taking. To me, it's trifle which is silly to even ask permission. The way I see it, I stand by it.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on July 04, 2018, 07:56:55 AM
You definitely should not consider what you see in American films to be an accurate portrayal of American life. Regardless of all the comments about the behavior itself--which would be considered at least slightly rude in my experience, as well--you should not conflate films with real American life or you'll be misled.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Buckethead on July 04, 2018, 10:11:57 AM
The Captain - I do second your point about American Films, or TV shows, for that matter. I recently read an article by young American woman
living in China who, along with her peers, struggles with the impression that the show Friends gives young Chinese males of female sexual behavior in the US. I've had more than a few conversations with people in many parts of the world who, based on movies, believe that all Americans are very comfortable, if not rich. And let's not forget the impression many have of California. While I find much that is beautiful about it, the reality is that
many aspects of it do not square with the myth. Perhaps my favorite example of "knowledge by acetate" involves a school friend of my sons. He came here from South Korea for secondary school because his American-born mother feared the effect that the pressures on student in his own country might have on him. Reared on Mississippi Burning and other movies focusing (rightfully) on racism in America, he was shocked at the degree to which different races and ethnicities lived in harmony. While he was upset at the one racist remark he had to deal with, he shared that
South Korean society, as well as that of Japan (where he had spent some time) was much more xenophobic and less open to a "melting pot," or even a stew. 


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on July 04, 2018, 11:00:23 AM
I could not agree more. All arts, even if intended to be honest, are always through some lens that is either an intentional fiction (like 99% of all movies and TV) or a documentary, which still tends to be intended to show a perspective, or even if not, does so anyway.

Even nonfiction is fiction to some extent. If your concept of anywhere comes from fiction, you need to keep a very low degree of confidence in the accuracy of your concept.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Buckethead on July 05, 2018, 02:12:41 PM
True. Even highly accurate documentaries and non-fiction works necessarily focus on a slice of reality. I once taught a unit on the Quakers in Pennsylvania.  The kids were impressed on their emphasis on freedom of conscience, equality, pacifism, respect for women, abolition, etc. Yet there was not sufficient time to explain that, on the other hand, people were "read out of meeting," (kicked out) for marrying non-Quakers, William Penn owned slaves who built his estate on the banks of the Delaware River, and a Quaker was kicked out of many Meetings for making dramatic speeches condemning them for owning slaves or benefiting from their labor.  Additionally, many husbands failed to pitch in at home when their wives took advantage of opportunities to be leaders at their Meetings, Betsy Ross and her husband were "Fighting Quakers" who supported the American Revolution, and more than a few Friends Quakers opposed the Abolition Movement per se because they thought  that it would promote armed conflict.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on July 05, 2018, 04:47:42 PM
And let's not forget the impression many have of California. While I find much that is beautiful about it, the reality is that
many aspects of it do not square with the myth. 
I see this tendency with people living in the States that everybody's super-loyal towards their home state. F.ex. New Yorker says New York is the best state & that's where they're going to stay till the end. You, Americans, really champion your respective states, advertise it that the other people visit that state & forget the others. With California, I think there's envy at play as well. It's popular, attracts tourists etc etc. I read many accounts by Americans who admitted liking California & New Yorker (!), in fact, deciding to move to California for good. Everytime there's Californian guest in What's My Line, John Daly, panel moderator, would exclaim "Lucky you!", "That's fine country!" etc. He didn't say anything like it when the guest is from different state, just polite thing as "Oh, we're neighbors" if smb. came from New Jersey & states near NY. Maybe some people live with impression that California is this magical place without being there but, as you see, there's people actually who visited California (reluctantly - loyal to their state, rmbr) &...ended up jolly impressed. Doubt people would be such durn fools that, even being there, living in California, they'd be tricked into liking what surrounds them. I think it's safe to say it's up to everybody what they're into. I like luxury of California, f.ex. You, Buckethead, said it's not for you. See?


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Buckethead on July 05, 2018, 05:11:10 PM
While I do admit to being partial to my home state of Pennsylvania, I have seen much to admire in many other states in the US. and know many people who, while a bit sentimental about their state of origin, appreciate  living in others and would not wish to move back.  In terms of California,
there is a great deal to admire and enjoy, just as there are parts and aspects of the state that I don't care for.  However, the idea that it is luxurious
is true of certain parts of it. There is also a lot of poverty and  people who have very moderate incomes.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on July 05, 2018, 05:26:54 PM
California has the highest percentage of homeless population in the country, and is in the lower quartile of states for worst poverty rate, for example. As places like San Francisco and Silicon Valley in general become heaven for some, most are completely priced out of existence. Sure, it is--or at least its coastal cities are--a great place to be rich. But ask the homeless guy or the farm laborer (in what would be a desert--and has the sun of one--if not for irrigation) how luxurious it is.

It's a gigantic land mass. There are wonders everywhere, grand and subtle. There are problems everywhere, grand and subtle. To idealize is to blunder.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on July 05, 2018, 05:42:45 PM
Poverty can be found anywhere. I'm sure every place got the worst & best, dangerous & safe sides. When people praise new place they visit, they realize it but still pay attention to things they liked about said place. Best things in California, they stay the best, don't get smaller due to problems it/ its government/ people living in poorer areas deal with. We can't do anything with this poverty, just sympathize. I think it's OK to like place for its best things even if witnessed the lowest of the low too.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on July 05, 2018, 05:48:00 PM
Previous reply addressed to Buckethead.  But the last paragraph in the captain's post (except the last bit) is kinda similar to the main point of what's said in that previous reply.
Addition: this poster, the captain, lives in Minnesota, as they stated many times. I know who is from where, I read this board 6 yrs. So, of course, any place being inhabited with people, there's issues in that state as well. But the captain is proud of their state, do we believe that this poster thinks with concern for random people's welfare they never met? Imagine if this poster visited California, with this knowledge of highest percentage of poverty there. Is it possible that they would think a lot about it & having this mental picture wouldn't be capable to still enjoy the positives in California? People like India, China etc. But they've got the ugly sides as well. Does it mean that people shouldn't enjoy things they liked in these respective countries? It isn't idealizing, it't just enjoying the time, the new place, unusual traditions, cuisine etc.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 05, 2018, 05:59:54 PM
And let's not forget the impression many have of California. While I find much that is beautiful about it, the reality is that
many aspects of it do not square with the myth. 
I see this tendency with people living in the States that everybody's super-loyal towards their home state. F.ex. New Yorker says New York is the best state & that's where they're going to stay till the end. You, Americans, really champion your respective states, advertise it that the other people visit that state & forget the others. With California, I think there's envy at play as well. It's popular, attracts tourists etc etc. I read many accounts by Americans who admitted liking California & New Yorker (!), in fact, deciding to move to California for good. Everytime there's Californian guest in What's My Line, John Daly, panel moderator, would exclaim "Lucky you!", "That's fine country!" etc. He didn't say anything like it when the guest is from different state, just polite thing as "Oh, we're neighbors" if smb. came from New Jersey & states near NY. Maybe some people live with impression that California is this magical place without being there but, as you see, there's people actually who visited California (reluctantly - loyal to their state, rmbr) &...ended up jolly impressed. Doubt people would be such durn fools that, even being there, living in California, they'd be tricked into liking what surrounds them. I think it's safe to say it's up to everybody what they're into. I like luxury of California, f.ex. You, Buckethead, said it's not for you. See?

That is true for a majority of people I have seen. I however live in Texas and I absolutely hate it here. I've lived here my entire life and it has never felt like home.  I'm at the point where as soon as I can transfer and have enough money to move, I'm gone. Knowing that my life span is going to be much shorter than I initially thought/hoped,  I have to make something happen while I have the time to. In any case, you're right in because most people here are definitely proud (and nothing wrong with that) but I myself feel so out of place here.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: JK on July 06, 2018, 02:55:51 AM
That is true for a majority of people I have seen. I however live in Texas and I absolutely hate it here. I've lived here my entire life and it has never felt like home.  I'm at the point where as soon as I can transfer and have enough money to move, I'm gone. Knowing that my life span is going to be much shorter than I initially thought/hoped,  I have to make something happen while I have the time to. In any case, you're right in because most people here are definitely proud (and nothing wrong with that) but I myself feel so out of place here.

Dude. :o


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on July 06, 2018, 03:22:23 AM
That is true for a majority of people I have seen. I however live in Texas and I absolutely hate it here. I've lived here my entire life and it has never felt like home.  I'm at the point where as soon as I can transfer and have enough money to move, I'm gone. Knowing that my life span is going to be much shorter than I initially thought/hoped,  I have to make something happen while I have the time to. In any case, you're right in because most people here are definitely proud (and nothing wrong with that) but I myself feel so out of place here.
Thanks to further confirm it. I read it many times & seen Americans directly say their state is the best. That some people in the States admit liking the other states, as per Buckethead, doesn't mean much - they still cling to that beloved home state.

& Billy, move with Dana & Jaymie to California! :D


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on July 06, 2018, 10:25:21 AM
I don't know about being proud of my state, or thinking it's the best. I think it's good. I enjoy it a lot. But proud? Not exactly proud. And best, I don't get into ranking things (at least not seriously--just for silly purposes like "best songs" polls that don't count for anything). I've said many times, I've liked most everywhere I've been to some extent. The "grass isn't always greener," but there's usually plenty of green grass.

As for "do we believe that this poster thinks with concern for random people's welfare they never met?" I would absolutely hope so. If we can't have concern for other people, including people we've never met, we are simply animals, nothing more. It is exactly that kind of emotional imagination that raises us to the level of humanity. That doesn't mean we can't enjoy the good in our environments, but if we only do that, and if we don't show concern for the less fortunate, we don't deserve the good things in our lives anyway.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 06, 2018, 10:48:55 AM
That is true for a majority of people I have seen. I however live in Texas and I absolutely hate it here. I've lived here my entire life and it has never felt like home.  I'm at the point where as soon as I can transfer and have enough money to move, I'm gone. Knowing that my life span is going to be much shorter than I initially thought/hoped,  I have to make something happen while I have the time to. In any case, you're right in because most people here are definitely proud (and nothing wrong with that) but I myself feel so out of place here.

Dude. :o

Yeah I don’t really want to get into it on the board too much but I’ve been having issues since my second stroke which is why I haven’t been as active here. I’ve basically been in and out of the hospital since August and I’m pretty much done with everything... I’m at the point of “whatever happens,happens “.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on July 06, 2018, 12:06:07 PM
Take care of yourself, Billy.

On a totally different note (but relevant to the thread), I really dislike the hyperbole-clickbait style of YouTube video titles, as well as headlines in some publications. For example, I enjoy watching debates on YouTube. But so many of them have titles like "[Person A] CRUSHES libtard [Person B]," or "Conservative DESTROYED IN FIVE MINUTES!" or whatever. Right now in my recommended videos is "Atheist Dan Barker Mutilates The Christian."

It's as if the typical YouTube commenter--which is to say, a hyperbolic idiot--titles them all.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on July 06, 2018, 05:16:59 PM
2tc: I stand by everything I said. If you didn't get my reply which, face it, is very well-written, I'm going to shut that case.

Next pet peeve - when people try really bad to be funny instead of just keeping it cool & talking casually. Cases in point - 2 PS posters bonnie bella & 'Becca. Reading each of these posters, it's like they don't just post their opinions about various things but as if they spent some time before hitting "post" to come up with sth. funny. There's some naturally funny people but this strikes as "trying to seek attention by being funny to gain posters' praise & friendship".


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on July 17, 2018, 07:21:24 AM
1. People adopting pets, then getting tired of caring about them & throwing like garbage.
2. People giving up their individuality to instead be like everybody. Meanwhile, "everybody" doesn't care.
3. People telling Beatles is great without explaining why, except...Beatles is great. Wha'?
4. People saying they're capable of being objective when in fact, it's just opinions.
5. People bragging they're open-minded as if it's really cool achievement.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on July 17, 2018, 09:10:51 AM
2tc: I stand by everything I said. If you didn't get my reply which, face it, is very well-written, I'm going to shut that case.


Guessing “tc” is me & I believe you named me pre-edit. Anyway, didn’t respond because I had nothing to say. There’s nothing to be gained in going around entrenched in disagreement.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on July 17, 2018, 09:30:52 AM
On a totally different note (but relevant to the thread), I really dislike the hyperbole-clickbait style of YouTube video titles, as well as headlines in some publications. For example, I enjoy watching debates on YouTube. But so many of them have titles like "[Person A] CRUSHES libtard [Person B]," or "Conservative DESTROYED IN FIVE MINUTES!" or whatever. Right now in my recommended videos is "Atheist Dan Barker Mutilates The Christian."

It's as if the typical YouTube commenter--which is to say, a hyperbolic idiot--titles them all.

I agree entirely. I think it's a symptom of being treating politics like its a spectator sport. In many ways, we have been highly influenced to think about politics in those terms.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on July 18, 2018, 05:03:45 PM
1. People adopting pets, then getting tired of caring about them & throwing like garbage.
2. People giving up their individuality to instead be like everybody. Meanwhile, "everybody" doesn't care.
3. People telling Beatles is great without explaining why, except...Beatles is great. Wha'?
4. People saying they're capable of being objective when in fact, it's just opinions.
5. People bragging they're open-minded as if it's really cool achievement.

There are good reasons why someone would have to give up a pet. But the pet needs to be given to another or ideally brought to a "no kill" shelter . It's horrible to just dump the pet on the road, or worse - in rural areas unwanted pets might be shot or drowned. :-(

Trying to "fit in" and give in to peer pressure in High School didn't work for me so I gave up. It got a lot better in college when I could "be myself" - there were a lot of oddballs who were like me lol. If you are true to yourself you will be respected more by others.

I see it all the time on another music board. You have to love the Beatles because - Beatles! I love the Beatles particularly for the period 1964-66. Great songs, good to great lyrics, some great innovation (thanks to George Martin). But they had some schlock as well, on a couple of their later albums.

Peeves 4 and 5 are similar. I agree that it's almost impossible to be totally "objective". To be fair, or open minded, can be difficult in my country nowadays. The middle ground is considered to be wishy washy. I do try to listen to those with differing opinions in order to find common ground. But for so many people it's one extreme or another.
This philosophy doesn't work well with me. With the conservatives I'm "pro-life" and realize the need for the country to watch its spending. But with the liberals I think children and the poor should be helped, there must be changes in the gun laws and I'm against capital punishment. So I have no political "home." Can't stand the Democrats or Republicans.  (Because of where I live, it's particularly hard for me to abide many of the Republicans, some of whom actually believe Trump was "anointed by God" for the presidency!)


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on July 18, 2018, 05:30:30 PM
Yes, good reasons when people give up pets but, I meant - & stated as such - the case when people think it's fun to adopt pets, then they see they must feed them etc., they see it's difficult, quickly get tired of routine & throw them. I witnessed it many times. The other, good reasons don't interest me, or else I'd list them & phrase sentence as such. I didn't. I said strictly the cruel reason people give up pets.

Why did you try to fit in in the 1st place? Didn't you think like this "I'm going to be loyal to my individuality & completely dismiss what everybody else likes/ into etc. If nobody would make friends with me, no big deal, ha! I'd be glad, good for me! Again, ha!"

Cool to see you admitted that Beatles got schlock in their career. Good girl! If everybody else admitted it, I'd buy them candies.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on July 18, 2018, 08:01:52 PM
Yes, good reasons when people give up pets but, I meant - & stated as such - the case when people think it's fun to adopt pets, then they see they must feed them etc.,. I said strictly the cruel reason people give up pets.

Why did you try to fit in in the 1st place? Didn't you think like this "I'm going to be loyal to my individuality & completely dismiss what everybody else likes/ into etc. If nobody would make friends with me, no big deal, ha! I'd be glad, good for me!

There's a problem here in the US with baby bunnies being bought around Easter. People get tired of them and it usually doesn't end well for the bunny.
People see posts about piglets and they think, "how cute!" and get one. Of course the little piglet grows up to be a big pig, then what to do?
 yes before getting a pet people need to do their homework. And down here, people need to know how to evacuate animals in case of a hurricane. Untold thousands of dogs, cats, and other pets died as a result of Hurricane Katrina in 2005.

As for wanting to be liked, there is tremendous peer pressure in adolescence to "fit in." I tried to and didn't very well. At some point, think I was 16 1/2, I just said "dash it all" and stopped caring. I think it was when I was in a music class.  The teacher played a beautiful classical music recording. The other students were muttering things like "it's too slow, you can't dance to it". Think I rolled my eyes... Curiously, shortly after that I started to be liked more by my classmates. Perhaps they started to respect me because I wasn't trying to fake something I wasn't , but who knows with teenagers? We were all in our own ways trying to figure things out.

Well I'm out of here for a while, going on a retreat. A week without internet, radio, TV, newspapers. A chance to clear my head. See y'all later.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on July 18, 2018, 08:17:39 PM
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There's a problem here in the US with baby bunnies being bought around Easter. People get tired of them and it usually doesn't end well for the bunny.
People see posts about piglets and they think, "how cute!" and get one. Of course the little piglet grows up to be a big pig, then what to do?
 yes before getting a pet people need to do their homework.
You got me. That's the point I brought/ made.

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As for wanting to be liked, there is tremendous peer pressure in adolescence to "fit in."
Disagree, it sure looks like people in all ages try to fit in, act like sheep. & I don't get the term "peer pressure". It shouldn't be in the 1st place. Nobody should be pressed by what peers do around. It's them, not you. You do what you do, what everybody does musn't matter. Come on, folks! Keep your individualities intact. Disregard everybody else.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Jay on July 18, 2018, 08:28:18 PM
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There's a problem here in the US with baby bunnies being bought around Easter. People get tired of them and it usually doesn't end well for the bunny.
People see posts about piglets and they think, "how cute!" and get one. Of course the little piglet grows up to be a big pig, then what to do?
 yes before getting a pet people need to do their homework.
You got me. That's the point I brought/ made.

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As for wanting to be liked, there is tremendous peer pressure in adolescence to "fit in."
Disagree, it sure looks like people in all ages try to fit in, act like sheep. & I don't get the term "peer pressure". It shouldn't be in the 1st place. Nobody should be pressed by what peers do around. It's them, not you. You do what you do, what everybody does musn't matter. Come on, folks! Keep your individualities intact. Disregard everybody else.
It's not always as simple as that.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on July 18, 2018, 08:56:32 PM
It's simple to me, then it should be simple for everybody else. If you disagree, bring examples instead of writing that short answer which doesn't say anything to back it up.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Jay on July 18, 2018, 09:05:48 PM
It's simple to me, then it should be simple for everybody else. If you disagree, bring examples instead of writing that short answer which doesn't say anything to back it up.
Well, when you're around a certain crowd, you often get "taunted" by other kids, to the point that you want to be like them. Or if not taunted by others, sometimes you see the one particular kid in school that you want to emulate, be like, no matter if it means changing how much you yourself are. As the only handicapped kid in my class room, I think I have a pretty good understanding how somebody might want to by like the other kids.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 18, 2018, 10:03:57 PM
Funny part is I was just the opposite. I wasn’t very popular growing up but instead of emulating others it made me NOT want to be like them.  I never tried to fit in because I thought a lot of what was considered to be cool wasn’t yet be that it’s passé I like it. I was a hipster before the term existed lol

These days though I just like what I like.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on July 18, 2018, 11:42:27 PM
2Jay: What you say is related to health. Being surrounded by healthy kids you distracted attention to the problems you've got by being normal, i.e. doing what kids in the class were into. That example differs than classic cases I talk about. When I went to school, kids there drank since 5th grade. I didn't. Kids hated me for it, quickly lumped me together with outsiders. Did I change attitude being pressured by kids? Ofc not. It's up to me to drink or not. & believe me, it was very easy thing to do, to be individual. As I said, if everybody hates me, what can I do - be slave of what they like? I didn't bat an eye. I'd been happy to be friendless at school. No big loss. Now, I got 2 nice girls as friends who agree with me 100% that the term "peer pressure" shouldn't even exist.

Ditto with smoking, social networking, going to disco/ parties, dating etc. - didn't/ don't do any of it. Do I regret missing out on this "fun" millions went thru? Negative. Everything I just said bores me big time. So...yep, I stand by my individuality & the point(s) made.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Jay on July 19, 2018, 12:22:56 AM
See in America, peer pressure is a huge problem. You might even say it's kind of at a crisis level.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on July 19, 2018, 01:50:11 AM
Isn't it, logically, the fault of everybody who gets easily influenced by peers? It's these people who create the problem when, if they weren't easily influenced, there'd be no problem. Which is to say, still not convinced how it's not "simple as that".


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 19, 2018, 02:00:27 AM
It really isn’t that simple. In order to get it, you really do have to live here. Difference in culture. I don’t mean that in a bad way or to be insulting;I'm sure you have life experiences we wouldn’t get either. Not saying it makes it right but when you are bombarded nonstop basically since birth with certain things via media and the people are you, there is more pressure to conform. Those who don’t (like myself) were ostracized at a young age because of it. Trust me, my youth was hell because of it. I didn’t really come into my own and accept myself until adulthood; for the longest time I thought there was something wrong with me. So yeah trust me on this you really have no idea unless you grew up here.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on July 19, 2018, 06:29:59 AM
Quick comment on the topic of peer pressure (and the very related topics of marketing and advertising), I believe that the evidence is conclusive that, as social animals, we are in general highly vulnerable to influence. (One good piece of evidence is the very existence of marketing: billions of dollars wouldn’t be wasted if companies and candidates didn’t believe that those campaigns worked.)

Generally people know this but believe they are exempt. “Others fall for this stuff, but I don’t.” But we all do, to some extent, whether it’s which product to buy, which candidates to support, which fashions to sport, or how to behave. Even general social norms are basically peer pressure. We’re all subject to it at some level, however pleasing it is to believe we’re strong, autonomous beings.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: B.E. on July 19, 2018, 09:22:12 AM
It's been alluded to twice now, so I have to ask... is peer pressure really any worse in the US than in Russia or anywhere else? Drinking is a great example. RangeRoverA1 was hated and cast as an outsider for not drinking from 5th grade onwards. That's far harsher than my own experience, but there's a very similar pressure in the US, and many other countries.



Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on July 19, 2018, 09:28:25 AM
I doubt it varies. Across cultures certain types of pressure may vary (more or less exposure to corporate or political messaging, for example), or the behaviors that are the subject of the pressure (maybe getting married earlier or later, alcohol abstinence or consumption, religiosity), but I’d wager human vulnerability to peer pressure is similar across cultures.

Then again, maybe there are differences based on whether a culture emphasizes or celebrates individualism or community cohesion? That might make sense. But then a person might guess the opposite: that people in the US should be less vulnerable rather than more compared to those in Russia.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: B.E. on July 19, 2018, 09:58:30 AM
I suppose I could believe that it's gotten worse as a result of technological advances. Not that peer pressure ever really slept, but I didn't even have a cell phone until college (and even then it wasn't a smartphone!). I feel lucky that my childhood wasn't dominated by the internet. I was one of the last ones (born in the late '80s). The pressure must feel ever present in a way that simply wasn't the case in the past. 


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Jay on July 19, 2018, 01:31:04 PM
2Jay: What you say is related to health. Being surrounded by healthy kids you distracted attention to the problems you've got by being normal, i.e. doing what kids in the class were into. That example differs than classic cases I talk about. When I went to school, kids there drank since 5th grade. I didn't. Kids hated me for it, quickly lumped me together with outsiders. Did I change attitude being pressured by kids? Ofc not. It's up to me to drink or not. & believe me, it was very easy thing to do, to be individual. As I said, if everybody hates me, what can I do - be slave of what they like? I didn't bat an eye. I'd been happy to be friendless at school. No big loss. Now, I got 2 nice girls as friends who agree with me 100% that the term "peer pressure" shouldn't even exist.

Ditto with smoking, social networking, going to disco/ parties, dating etc. - didn't/ don't do any of it. Do I regret missing out on this "fun" millions went thru? Negative. Everything I just said bores me big time. So...yep, I stand by my individuality & the point(s) made.
By "being normal"?


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Buckethead on July 19, 2018, 03:03:09 PM
I truly believe that peer pressure exists in every single culture (and micro-culture), only the behaviors,objects, etc. that are the targets differ. Go to certain places in the Middle East, for example, and see the pressure women put on other women to be extremely modest. Ditto Orthodox Jewish communities - go to one of their schools, see a girl with the top of her blouse unbuttoned, and you will probably see her friends bringing her to back to the expected standard. My own sons were made fun of mercilessly because they had no interest in having sex with girls, then women, with whom they were not in a loving, committed relationship. They were called gay, but didn't care because they were comfortable with their own sexuality. In some denominations of Christianity (throughout the world), marriage partners are pressured by their social group to stay together, no matter how miserable or even in danger they may be; divorce results in loss of peer support and interaction. The old anthropology major in me could give many examples of groups in the Amazon or in the Philippines in which refusal to succumb to peer pressure can be deadly.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on July 19, 2018, 07:57:40 PM
Alright. We'll agree to disagree as I still don't see why people can't do what *they* would like to do, why they're scared that they wouldn't be accepted into group etc. Talking about countries with freedom, I didn't talk about places where people get seriously punished if they dress differently etc. But when you live in place with freefom, it doesn't make sense people would get easily influenced. F.ex. everybody's got mobile phone. I bought it too but everybody buys the coolest phone, I buy it as mean to talk. Everybody buys fridge - is it peer pressure too? Or just realization that this is convenient, in fact single way to store food & prevent it being stale?

monolithic aka Nicko1234 is simply the worst poster in the BBs board history. He acts like this really fair & balanced, reasonable person, best kinda fan when in fact he's just fanboy, as well as subtle potshot taker & passive-aggressive commentator.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: the captain on July 20, 2018, 08:48:05 AM
I think you are overrating people's natural ability to be truly individuals. Peer pressure is a well established reality in academic literature.

But with that said, obviously we can all see that some people are more susceptible than others to it: everyone knows someone who seems to fall into the crowd every single time about every single thing, and someone else who doesn't have such a problem being unique. Anyway, my point is just that it is clearly a real thing that some people simply aren't able to fight against to the degree that others are. To ask "why don't you just do what you want to do?" probably isn't a realistic question for those people, any more than it would be to ask someone with clinical depression "why don't you just cheer up?"

We have evolved to be social creatures on the whole, after all, so some degree of a need for acceptance by the group is natural. Different people just have different degrees of that need, and different levels of confidence in their own instincts or thinking.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 20, 2018, 12:05:06 PM
Alright. We'll agree to disagree as I still don't see why people can't do what *they* would like to do, why they're scared that they wouldn't be accepted into group etc. Talking about countries with freedom, I didn't talk about places where people get seriously punished if they dress differently etc. But when you live in place with freefom, it doesn't make sense people would get easily influenced. F.ex. everybody's got mobile phone. I bought it too but everybody buys the coolest phone, I buy it as mean to talk. Everybody buys fridge - is it peer pressure too? Or just realization that this is convenient, in fact single way to store food & prevent it being stale?

monolithic aka Nicko1234 is simply the worst poster in the BBs board history. He acts like this really fair & balanced, reasonable person, best kinda fan when in fact he's just fanboy, as well as subtle potshot taker & passive-aggressive commentator.

Monolithic is a female poster and is not Nicko1234 unless there is something I’m not aware of


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Buckethead on July 20, 2018, 02:47:09 PM
I hear you, RRA1. I was keenly aware of peer pressure beginning in, maybe second grade. Even then, I found it the degree to which kids would go to to be part of the crowd, to be "in" to be annoying. I learned what I had to do and how to present myself in order to avoid bullies (and get along in the workplace), but other than that, I made no effort to conform. If it appeared that I was, for example, in fashion, it was only because I liked it or it was a clear professional expectation. I wore my hair very short when EVERY girl wore it at least shoulder length; this filtered out guys who wanted a girlfriend who conformed to their peers' ideal female, the one that is found in centerfolds. There were plenty of males left over who commented that they liked my hair because it showed my face better. I went to few parties because they were just excuses to for kids to drink and do drugs, and just never bought into the fixation teenage girls had with talking on the phone for hours and hours. I had friends, pretty much other kids who were comfortable being themselves. It is true, though, that some people have a greater need than others to fit in with the "cool people" for no other reason than to do it. I'm nice to everyone, but feel a bit less respect for them, would not seek them out personally or socially. 


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on July 20, 2018, 04:10:03 PM
2Billy: Nicko1234 is disguised as female poster monolithic. He's former Smiley poster, by monolithic's admission. It's super-easy to choose gender as female in the settings. Nobody I'd seen overuses a/ an article in 6 yrs I read this board except N1234. F.ex. people say "great post" without "a" when quoting the other poster. N1234 said "A great post", "An interesting post". monolithic did the same. Bolding specific bit to reply to it when quoting whole post is next thing. The opinions, defending John Stamos, taking Mike's side, mentioning Bruce's song "Brand New Old Friends" positively, just the writing style, points he brought here brought by him as monolithic at PS as well. Bottom line: monolithic IS Nicko1234. If you don't believe me - fine. I deduced it's him & believe my deduction skills. Either way, I stand by everything I said there about monolithic/ Nicko1234.

2Buckethead & tc: Points taken.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 21, 2018, 01:23:52 AM
2Billy: Nicko1234 is disguised as female poster monolithic. He's former Smiley poster, by monolithic's admission. It's super-easy to choose gender as female in the settings. Nobody I'd seen overuses a/ an article in 6 yrs I read this board except N1234. F.ex. people say "great post" without "a" when quoting the other poster. N1234 said "A great post", "An interesting post". monolithic did the same. Bolding specific bit to reply to it when quoting whole post is next thing. The opinions, defending John Stamos, taking Mike's side, mentioning Bruce's song "Brand New Old Friends" positively, just the writing style, points he brought here brought by him as monolithic at PS as well. Bottom line: monolithic IS Nicko1234. If you don't believe me - fine. I deduced it's him & believe my deduction skills. Either way, I stand by everything I said there about monolithic/ Nicko1234.

2Buckethead & tc: Points taken.
If so, that’s a good catch. I never thought of it that way but it does make sense, and I think you’re right. That said, I think it’s best not to take shots at members from another board, as right now we’re coexisting and I’d prefer to keep it that way. There may be a few that continue to take shots st us but their mods are doing an outstanding job of keeping it in check. Let’s follow the same example.

I do think you’re right though.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on July 21, 2018, 01:32:47 AM
Thank you, I know I'm right. :D
& OK, I'll keep negative views about posters in mind.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Buckethead on July 21, 2018, 04:26:18 AM
Love your self-confidence!


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on September 28, 2018, 03:20:57 PM
Embellished speeches/ intros with zero substance. Stuff you hear in TV/ various media, in ritzy evenings you visit. Say, "Today we gathered to celebrate this day. I see beautiful people around, it makes me happy to bring the news that we will be destined with few precious hours of gratifying joy that transcends all generations, the essence of spectacular evening will build gracious memories in our intelligent minds for many happy years to look brightly into the great future". Zzz. Yet many, interestingly, enjoy such speeches.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: JK on September 28, 2018, 03:56:58 PM
Nicko1234 is disguised as female poster monolithic. He's former Smiley poster, by monolithic's admission. It's super-easy to choose gender as female in the settings. Nobody I'd seen overuses a/ an article in 6 yrs I read this board except N1234. F.ex. people say "great post" without "a" when quoting the other poster. N1234 said "A great post", "An interesting post". monolithic did the same. Bolding specific bit to reply to it when quoting whole post is next thing. The opinions, defending John Stamos, taking Mike's side, mentioning Bruce's song "Brand New Old Friends" positively, just the writing style, points he brought here brought by him as monolithic at PS as well. Bottom line: monolithic IS Nicko1234. If you don't believe me - fine. I deduced it's him & believe my deduction skills. Either way, I stand by everything I said there about monolithic/ Nicko1234.

That's pretty impressive reasoning there, RR. I really admire your deduction skills, although we'll probably never find out the truth.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on September 28, 2018, 04:11:29 PM
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That's pretty impressive reasoning there, RR. I really admire your deduction skills
Thank you. It was VERY easy. ;) Btw, you forgot this " :3d" to go with your post. :P


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on September 28, 2018, 04:12:55 PM
Embellished speeches/ intros with zero substance. Stuff you hear in TV/ various media, in ritzy evenings you visit. Say, "Today we gathered to celebrate this day. I see beautiful people around, it makes me happy to bring the news that we will be destined with few precious hours of gratifying joy that transcends all generations, the essence of spectacular evening will build gracious memories in our intelligent minds for many happy years to look brightly into the great future". Zzz. Yet many, interestingly, enjoy such speeches.

If you are called on at the last minute to give a speech, I believe there is a random speech generator available , giving all the buzzwords while not actually saying anything.
Yes, most people don't care about most run of the mill speeches. They are impatiently waiting for it to end so that they can enjoy the food/music whatever.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on September 28, 2018, 04:21:31 PM
I'm not sure what you drive at in the 1st sentence. You mean, people use speech app or sth.?

This is cool thread. Imo it's interesting to read dislikes than likes. Seeing people say "Wow, I love it!", "Great song!", "Fantastic" thousand times in row can be chore. There is misguided view that telling dislikes is impolite. Don't be kidding.

"DefinAtely" is the winner.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on September 28, 2018, 07:42:34 PM
I saw the random speech generator on Facebook. Now I can't find it, although I did find a random Trump speech generator. It takes random sentences from Trump speeches and creates a new speech - the speech doesn't make much sense but don't think his supporters care.

Big pet peeve now. I can't answer my phone anymore. Over 90 percent of calls are from various  scam artists. They disguise the phone numbers so you think they are local calls.
So if the number isn't on my phone list, I don't answer it. And they almost never leave messages . Grrrr...


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on September 29, 2018, 05:19:11 PM
Curious what this generator thing's got to do with pet peeve in question. Do people standing at the stage hosting the evening, whatev. it is, go online to get speech help? I don't get it. There's people who really enjoy saying "beautiful" words, you can tell. Speech can be prepared, as well as created spontaneously during the evening. People very into it can articulate, find various embellishments very well without help. To them it's very easy thing to do. I'm still not sure how "random speech generator" is related to "embellished speeches with zero substance". What is the actual point, your reply is very ambiguous, frankly speaking.

- dancers in streets
- loud off-key (tipsy) singing in public
- handing various advertising brochures to strangers when they pass by (I usually pretend to not hear "Won't you take this?" & go stubbornly forward)
- speaking of mobile calls, dislike this trick when people call very shortly which means you can't pick it up in time. They do it that you call them back, YOUR balance decreases. That trick's not going to work with me. I don't call back. THEY called, THEY needed sth. to say, not I. If it's sth. REALLY important, they'll find way to tell it. Their problem.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on September 29, 2018, 05:45:52 PM
The random speech generator is a joke , poking fun at those speeches we all hear that have all those familiar phrases combined with other flowery language , and the whole doesn't always make sense if you read a copy of the speech later.

I rarely see dancers in the street. They would be found in parades. If I'm there, I expect dancing and don't mind it as long as it doesn't get raunchy.

I try to avoid drunks as much as possible. Have had bad experiences with drunks, and how friends of mine become incredibly obnoxious (none of my friends seem to handle their liquor well; my best friend, thankfully , finally swore off the stuff)

I rarely have to deal with people giving out brochures as long as I stay away from tourist areas.
 Your phone plan is like mine used to be. My plan now allows unlimited talking. I don't like talking on the phone so use very little time. If someone dials a couple of rings then hangs up, I don't bother calling them back ( the only exception is if a family member keeps doing it, indicating that they are having some problem).


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on September 29, 2018, 07:34:04 PM
Alright, thanks. I'm glad to get to the bottom at last. Which merely was: it's joke.

Tariff plan in my sim-card is Internet-based. I don't usually choose tariffs beneficial as far as calls go. Such tariff plans don't include cheap Internet access - there it's really expensive, f.ex. if you sit 5 minutes, it equals 20-50 roubles, depending if the site's rife with ads, high-res big size pics, if it's busy site with many fancy features. If you download sth., you could get fast to negative balance (-100 /- 200 roubles).
In short, choose cheap Internet to cheap calls. When I talk few minutes then check the balance, if it said 100 roubles before, now it's 85 left in balance - like that. It's fine by me.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on October 06, 2018, 06:20:39 PM
Bad film translation cases which I study by ear with great inspection. F.ex. PLENTY mistakes in "Rosemary's Baby". Just to give the idea - when Rose plays game "Erudite" to make anagram in the floor, she gives up at last & says "Now that really makes sense", starts gathering back the letters whilst sighing "Poor Hutch", to indicate she began to believe that Hutch indeed didn't know what he talked about in his ultimate day. That bit the Russian voice translates as "Hm, there's sth. about it", with intonation telling viewer that the anagrams she made, one after the other, give her clues that she can't catch yet but they do mean sth. Which is as misleading as can be.

Different stupid inter-board wah blah whines & petty name-calling. Granted, am apathetic towards 90% PS posters.

I find many people to be pet peeves, shall we say. There's many things that annoy about them. The way they laugh, talk, smile, mannerisms, stupid habits, various trifle little things. Agree? :)


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on October 19, 2018, 07:30:50 PM
When walking in the broad asphalt, passers-by taking space when they could walk in different side. I.e. you walk to the right, 20 cm space, & passer-by when passing you by facing you takes the same exactly space. When the asphalt is broad & the other spaces vacant. It annoys. Am sure many will agree with it by default. Btw, it could be perhaps said shortly but not jolly good at being laconic.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on October 29, 2018, 08:13:24 AM
Looks like I dominate this thread. Cool. I see many times when people use "ton" - "I read tons of books", "thanks a ton", "ton of sth.". HeyJude, KDS used it a lot. Maybe they do still. It will not be fair to say the next but everytime I see people using it, I immediatelly think they lack in intellect dept. It's slang, isn't it? Like what kids at Twitter talk like. Many Twitter kids may be bright but it's difficult to see when they use "ton".


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on October 29, 2018, 10:27:47 AM
Certainly not an "intellect" thing. It's a common term used by many people, including myself.
Use it if "lots" of something doesn't quite do the trick.

See also, "bunches," " oodles, " "scads," etc.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on October 29, 2018, 02:49:44 PM
"Use it if "lots" of something doesn't quite do the trick." - Really. How interesting. Tell me - what's the difference between lots of sth. & tons of sth. What "trick" does using "ton" do? I'm curious now.
Re: Twitter kids, the point stands. Slang kids use & adults gives impression that they lack in intellect dept. It just does. You gotta agree it makes sense.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on October 29, 2018, 03:03:17 PM
"Use it if "lots" of something doesn't quite do the trick." - Really. How interesting. Tell me - what's the difference between lots of sth. & tons of sth. What "trick" does using "ton" do? I'm curious now.

Tons - lots and lots and lots...
 "Do the trick" - an expression, means to get the result you want.

Just my opinion - I don't believe people using slang terms are lacking in the intellect department.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on October 29, 2018, 03:16:16 PM
That's nice you defend people using slang but...but...wait a minute...I seem to've said "it gives impression". Which isn't the same as saying downright "they're idiots". Right? Or as limeys say, roight? Besides, I'd written "Many Twitter kids may be bright but it's difficult to see when they use "ton" & "It will not be fair to say the next but everytime I see people using it, I immediately think they lack in intellect dept." (Re-)read attentively the wording, please, before beginning to defend people.
Hope next time I'm allowed to freely express anything that annoys. Pet peeve means just that - things that annoy. & this is free board, I'd like to say things I want to. I dislike when people start defending the others, *especially* without reading attentively what they reply to.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on November 04, 2018, 03:43:55 PM
Reading alexander palace board, I began to get annoyed by users continuing replies with "However, ..." when they could say "Nevertheless, ...", usual easy "But, ...", "That being said, ...", "Still, ...", "(&) Yet, ..." etc. It wouldn't differ.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on November 05, 2018, 07:11:03 AM
People who like seeing sports games don't make sense. What's especially interesting/ riveting about chaps running to catch ball or puck? It's really bizarre. To me, apathetic to it 200%, it's mind-boggling beyond. Esp. eccentric that there's women fans. What's the thinking process behind women getting to like it? I frankly can't fathom.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on November 05, 2018, 04:21:31 PM
Re sports. Down here, (American) Football is king. Very important to women as well as men.
For our Professional team (the Saints), churches on Sunday are filled with men, women, and children wearing Saints jerseys, or if not , at least wearing the team colors , black and gold.
Perhaps because the team is called the Saints. Perhaps the Raiders might not have as many in their churches lol.
I'm not the rabid fan that I used to be. My sister and I actually got our picture in an issue of National Geographic in the early 1970s.But I haven't been to a professional football game in over 40 years. The prices are too high, am afraid to sit in the "nosebleed" section, and don't want to deal with having my belongings checked at the entrance. Plus it's just more comfortable to watch the games at home. Finally , I rarely get to watch the whole game because of taking care of my Mother.
My favorite sport to watch in person is Baseball. I like to score the games - you can get a scorecard and I used to have a scorecard I made up on Excel. Why I love the game - it's the history. Love hearing old guys arguing over players who played 50 or more years ago.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on November 05, 2018, 05:21:38 PM
Well. It doesn't yet answer the question, in encompassing way. It brings instead next questions - why is it "king"? Why it's "very important"? Why the liking to score the game? What's interesting about doing it? Etc.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on November 05, 2018, 05:58:13 PM
I can't answer "why", that's just how the culture is here.
There are others who go crazy watching racing cars go around and around a track, sometimes for a total of 1000 km.
Up in the far north, it's ice hockey.

I use a scorecard - to mark how well a player did in a game. Statistics are very important in baseball.Records have been kept on teams since the 19th century. Again, I like watching baseball in person in hopes of talking to old timers, or guys who are obsessed with statistics. Were  Honus Wagner, Christy Matthewson, Babe Ruth and others who played 90-100 years ago really good? I love the history, the culture, around it.
I also like baseball for the reason a lot of younger people hate it - it doesn't have a time clock. There was recently a championship game played that started around 2000 hours and didn't end until around 0330 the next morning.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on November 05, 2018, 06:20:57 PM
It's safe to say that whilst there's people interested in sports games in America & world, there's people like I who don't care AT ALL. Thus, I don't accept the culture angle of the answer. It can't be black & white.
Yes, I get it, records kept, statistics very important. You mean to say you do it mechanically, there isn't genuine interest in it whatsoever? It makes sense to like talking with old-timers. But it's really puzzling to read you like scoring game due to stats being very important. It strikes as really eccentric. Why care doing it? To me, you see, it's not big deal. If I did like sports games, I wouldn't care about scores.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on November 05, 2018, 07:17:26 PM
I like statistics. It's fun, it's trivial, it gets me away from the craziness of the world.
I know lots of people who don't care for sports. When our team was in the Super Bowl (the football championship) the little choir I was in had rehearsal as usual. (I "played hooky" that night. When would our team be in the Super Bowl again?)
As I stated earlier I'm not anywhere as big of a fan as I used to be. For example, yesterday, I wasn't able to go to my morning religious service due to a semi emergency with my Mother. The only other services available were during the big football game. Well, I went to the religious  service and thus missed the last part of the football game. So football isn't that important to me. Other things take precedence.

The good thing about football in my city is that it is a great unifier. No matter your race, gender, age, political affiliation etc, when the team does well it makes people happy. When they lose, it's "better luck next week!"
Another good thing about sports - it helped get rid of the segregation laws in my city. Some professional football teams would play exhibition games here. The business people here realized that in order to get a permanent team, the rules in place keeping African Americans from staying at the better hotels had to change, as the professional teams were integrated. Also, there couldn't be segregation in the seating at entertainment events. (This helped avoid the embarrassment that Jacksonville, Florida, faced in 1964 when the Beatles were to play there. The Beatles, to their everlasting credit, said that they wouldn't play there unless there was no longer segregation in seating. Fortunately, New Orleans had already gotten rid of those asinine laws before the Fab Four played here.)

Finally, my motto - when you come to a fork in the road, take it - was said by that sage of Baseball, Yogi Berra.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on November 05, 2018, 07:59:25 PM
Well it doesn't seem like there'll be definitive answer to the question.
As you were.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on November 05, 2018, 08:13:15 PM
Did my best  :lol

I'm sure there are some Russian traditions that wouldn't make sense to us


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on November 13, 2018, 01:07:03 PM
Reading alexander palace, many use "an" with "history". It doesn't look right. F.ex. "an historic event" etc. Isn't "h" distinct in "history"/ "historic"? Is there English-speaking place in which people de-voice "h"?


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Jay on November 13, 2018, 08:06:12 PM
One big pet peeve of mine is whenever somebody says "no?" after asking a question.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on November 16, 2018, 04:21:55 PM
Reading alexander palace, many use "an" with "history". It doesn't look right. F.ex. "an historic event" etc. Isn't "h" distinct in "history"/ "historic"? Is there English-speaking place in which people de-voice "h"?

Thought of you when I heard the headline of a national television news program :
" An historic snowfall in the northeastern US"
It's considered correct to either use "a" or "an" before historic or historical . I usually hear "an " used and that's what I use as well. It just sounds better to me, maybe because I barely pronounce the "h" with those two words.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on November 17, 2018, 05:23:14 PM
Ta. Btw, since you used popular phrase "thought of smb.", reading alexander palace there's poste. "Eric_Lowe", he posts in casual way, posts *a lot*, to the point nearly each 2nd reply is by him, gets repetitive, frequently butts in between the other posters to reply to these posters like they're talking to him. I thought of KDS reading that guy. In roundabout way of course, there isn't huge similarity. :D

The other thing observed reading alexander palace, I find really strange & hilarious at times seeing users quickly getting familiar. F.ex. new users just met in the board with the old-timers "Hi I'm new, I just joined the forum..." & usual "Welcome!". ...few replies in, each side is super-friendly, call each other "Meg", "Johnnie" (when username is John), "Chris", "girlie" etc. They poke fun, tell jokes, even playful to boot, like old buddies. Wth? :brow


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on November 27, 2018, 01:08:01 PM
When people use shortly "be good to do sth." & "be seeing you". Few alexander palace posters used it & generally in the Internet. Maybe the others quickly recognize what's meant by it but to me it takes time to figure without the beginning bit. It would be nice if they'd written down, say, "It would be good to find this film", "I'll be seeing you next time".

Then, seeing 2 films back to back, I discover people use "good day" to mean exact different meanings - hello & goodbye. This is real revelation. I knew the "goodbye". Well, I knew the "hello" as well but figured this is used strictly in letters when shortened "g'day, ...". In films, read: face-to-face talk, people didn't greet each other "good day!", they'd use it in the end when they go. Is it, then, fair to assume "good day" is archaic greeting, today it's "hello", "hi", "good morning (evening, afternoon)", "hey what's up" etc.?
Whilst in the greetings subject, many colloquially say just "evening!" et al sans the "good" bit. It looks strange in print than when hearing people saying it.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on December 01, 2018, 07:34:39 PM
Cashier people saying "odnu?" ("one?") when asking in food shop how many you buy (chocolate, biscuit/ waffle/ etc. bunches). They use it everytime intact, when it should change its gender with food name. If the word is masculine gender - say, chocolate ("shokolad"), lemon ("limon") - "odin" must be used. Neuter gender - "moloko"/ milk, "pechenye"/ biscuit/ cookie, "myaso/ miaso"/ meat - "odno" must be used. "Odnu" is used to just feminine gender - "pachka"/ bunch/ batch/ pile (of candies), "priprava"/ seasoning, "muka"/ flour, "pechen'"/ liver. It annoys big time when they say "odnu?" like they didn't study this ABC grammar rule.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on December 03, 2018, 03:18:07 PM
Reply deleted due to such decision.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on December 04, 2018, 05:10:09 PM
Btw, I still don't find any difference between pet peeves & grievance-airing in winter holidays, I read you got such tradition. I mentioned it before & since nobody amongst American posters precisely denied, then explained (with detail of course), that there IS difference, it brings conclusion I'm right, there isn't. Or, is there?


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on December 10, 2018, 03:52:41 PM
In hindsight, the deleted reply shouldn't be too lengthy. It could be single line.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on January 28, 2019, 06:03:35 AM
People advertizing random useless goods in whatsapp, spammers who post generic pics daily like "Good Morning!", "Cool! It's Friday!", "It's Weekend!" etc which take space. In any group chat, be it cooking, cats, flats' block discussing central heating issues etc. Need I say it's tedious to get thru?


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on March 04, 2019, 06:45:36 AM
Yes, you need. Agree 100%, smartie.
Neighbors - hate these people. You should too, folks. :)
Srsly, I really don't get people who get super-friendly with neighbors. Why do it if it's not requirement? When smb. greets with hello, I don't hello back. They play loudly music genre *I* specifically can't stand, yet they should get nice treatment, shouldn't be made big deal about? Dumb logic.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on March 04, 2019, 11:05:11 AM
I'm a private person and wouldn't appreciate nosy neighbors. Thankfully I haven't had to deal with them.
However it can be a good thing to be cordial to them, in case of an emergency situation such as a flood, fire, or tornadoes. It can be good to know the basics of that family unit; if firefighters get injured people out I can say, there might be one more child in there, or, they have a couple of cats...
A neighbor came in handy for my Mother. She was restoring her home that was heavily damaged by Hurricane Katrina. In early 2007 she was one of only a couple in her neighborhood who had electricity restored. Thus she bought new appliances such as a combination refrigerator/freezer, stove and oven, and other things. She hadn't moved back into the house yet.
Around midnight some guys got into her house and started pulling out the appliances. They brought them out and were going to put them into a truck when they started to argue. Our next door neighbor heard the racket, looked outside and saw what was happening. He called the police, who caught and arrested them. The potential burglers didn't know there was anyone next door as their house had only been gutted (walls torn out, ruined furniture and other items thrown out) and didn't have electricity.
So I am so grateful to her neighbors. And they have a little dog, Cupid, who sneaks into our back yard, gets along with our cats, and plays with BooBoo the dog.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: JK on March 04, 2019, 02:18:08 PM
Neighbors - hate these people. You should too, folks. :)
Srsly, I really don't get people who get super-friendly with neighbors. Why do it if it's not requirement? When smb. greets with hello, I don't hello back. They play loudly music genre *I* specifically can't stand, yet they should get nice treatment, shouldn't be made big deal about? Dumb logic.
Perhaps those people really like their neighbours! It's possible, you know.  ;D

Why not just say hello back to your neighbours, whatever it is they play loudly? It might even make you feel good--you won't know unless you try. ;)


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on March 05, 2019, 09:16:35 AM
We 3 will just agree to disagree. Neighbors you talk about is people living in neighbor house. I'm sure it's easy to manage neighborhood like that, everybody living in separate houses. Lucky you. It differs than people living in the same building, you know. Flats' block. I believe that neighbors in such living condition must respect each & everybody & not disturb the other neighbor's sleep & play music at night a.m. time. Esp. music I hate - techno, eurodance, rap etc. You gotta understand why I hate them, it's justified you know?


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on March 05, 2019, 10:52:01 AM
Okay I understand. I've been fortunate to only have lived in apartments for a couple of years, and never in a multistory complex. I can imagine it becoming annoying to hear the guy in the apartment above you stomping about in the middle of the night, TV or music turned up loudly. And as the walls in those places are paper thin, you can hear arguments and other stuff you'd rather not hear. During my time in apartments I only had occasional problems with a neighbor who got home late at night from work and he'd turn the TV on. I was only in that apartment for 3 months. (I was cat sitting - names were Tigger and Scooter - for a woman who decided to go into the woods to "find herself." Don't know if she ever did lol. I ended up adopting Scooter, a sweet calico, and the woman's ex husband took Tigger. )


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: JK on March 05, 2019, 12:57:43 PM
(I was cat sitting - names were Tigger and Scooter - for a woman who decided to go into the woods to "find herself." Don't know if she ever did lol. I ended up adopting Scooter, a sweet calico, and the woman's ex husband took Tigger. )

That's some story!  :lol


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on March 05, 2019, 04:44:57 PM
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Okay I understand.
Thank you.

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I've been fortunate to only have lived in apartments for a couple of years, and never in a multistory complex.
Wait - there's difference? Doesn't multistory complex consist of these very apartments you talk about? It's like you say apartment is sth. else in America, not little flats people live in within the same building. Strange.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on March 05, 2019, 07:56:39 PM
The apartments I lived in were all on one level, 5 or 6 units. There were no upper floors. Across the street from one of them was an apartment complex - lots of apartments, think about 5 levels. In the big cities there are apartment complexes with 20 or more levels, and sometimes several complexes jammed together. Not very nice at all, especially if the electricity goes out or  there 's a problem with water pressure.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on March 14, 2019, 06:40:29 AM
I gather floor is synonym with level. Anyhoo, when people spit in the streets. They walk casually spitting. Perhaps they should carry plastic bags to spit. Vandalism, esp. lame stuff like "[random guy/ girl name] I love you" written in random street buildings like garages. Maybe best to say it to face, else it looks like buncha chickens anonymously publishing their feelings to garage walls.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on March 14, 2019, 08:45:41 AM
Oh, spitting ! A BIG pet peeve! There's no need for it. Gross!

I almost wish our graffiti was along the lines of "Sherri I love you." Most of it consists of gang symbols. Or the obnoxious guy who goes around spray painting " ACHOO! " on public buildings.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on March 14, 2019, 09:11:49 AM
Hey, NOLA, did you know about trend "vocal fry"? People say it's teen/ youth thing, adult commenters say it's annoying to hear it. What puzzles is to see it dubbed "trend". I tried to do it but it's really pain in the neck, difficult. I figured it's people who naturally talk that way, i.e. regardless age.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on March 14, 2019, 05:40:59 PM
I've heard it but didn't know that it was called "vocal fry."
 I find it a bit annoying. I hear it mainly from some young women giving interviews. Are they doing it on purpose? Anyway, RR, please don't try to imitate them . That's not how regular American women talk


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on March 16, 2019, 10:47:38 AM
To me, it's annoying if indeed they do it purposely. Better stay with real voice, fry doesn't add coolness, it sounds like choking.
Speaking re: American, is New Orleans city with too many traffic jams? Will you tell?


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on March 16, 2019, 01:37:48 PM
We have some traffic jams, but they are not usually that bad. It can be slow in our interstate or bridges during the "rush hours" - 0600-0900, and 1500-1800 - when most people are going to or going home from work.
But it's nothing like you see in places like Los Angeles, Houston, Atlanta , or along the East Coast between Washington, D.C. and Boston.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on April 17, 2019, 05:39:57 AM
- Youtubers doing roll call "1st!", "3rd!", "55th!"
- typos in food labels, CD's, books
- street mud puddles


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on April 21, 2019, 05:31:25 AM
Dots dots dots dots dots. "What............eh....well.......it's nice.........". "LMAO", "ROFL", "af" (?), "lololololololol", "AMG" (?), "lel" (?), "OML" (?), "xX [username] Xx" (?), rating tales differently going by its title/ narrative "5 out of 10 cookies", "3/10 weird vampires", "2/10 sharp teeth", to tell few.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on May 23, 2019, 10:30:32 AM
Bought single patty today, there's been hidden tiny bone, brought gag reflex. Shan't buy it again.


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on July 06, 2019, 02:41:41 PM
Recently seen Karen Carpenter/ The Carpenters documentary; thing that really made I cringe is tacky fruitless "real events' envisioning", by actors that don't even the slightest look like real people they play. "Karen" is simply bad. "Richard" is bizarre to say the least. Ditto "parents" & everybody else. It's good this film included interviews with Dionne Warwick & few people who knew Karen well, f.ex. neighbors. But, it's ruined by the above. Wish it been exclusively family & friends interviews, Carpenters' music clips, Karen's & Richard's interviews, i.e. real footages.

Link: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj5Y6OxdWGI