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As usual vote for your least favorite track. The track with the most votes gets voted off.

Tally on March 28th

Good Timin'
Lady Lynda
Full Sail
Angel Come Home
Love Surrounds Me
Sumahama
Here Comes the Night
Baby Blue
Goin' South
Shortenin' Bread

Hands down my least favorite gets the axe because I DON'T DISCO.

Here Comes the Night.

I kinda like the disco HCTN, I vote for Goin' South, it is too boring for me.

"Here Comes the Bruce"

Here Comes the Night

Sumahama, no contest.

The Disco Here Comes The Night is a masterpiece in comparison!

sumahama

Here Comes the Night

Sumahama

Here Comes the Night--runs about 10 minutes too long--and the first couple minutes aren't too good either

Here Comes the Night.

Shortenin' Bread.  The audio is ghastly, and I understand Brian cut at least 32,671 superior versions.

Here Comes The Night

Goin' South is, IMHO, the least inspired BB song, and it gets my vote.

Full Snore

Here Comes the Night

Agreed. Sumahama gets my vote.

Sumahama

Tough call.. lots of weak songs this one.  I'll go with Sumahama.

Here Comes The Nightmare

Here Comes the Night

Supperhammer ( but the backing vox are great )

Here Comes the Night. Don't share the negative sentiment for Sumahama. I'm kept interested with its Japanese quirks and pretty melody (though I'll concede Mike's vocal on the LBWL version is much better). Infinitely superior to the aforementioned disco track and aural NyQuil like Goin' South.

  Goin' South

Shortenin bread

disco

Sumahama is the only song on this album I don't think I've been able to listen to all the way through.

Here Comes the Night disco version (love the original on WH)

Sumahama

Here Comes the Night as it completely unbalances the album.

Here comes the night  :o

Shortenin' Bread, which is a very dim performance.

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Exactly! Great to see some sane people around here. It's shocking that a lot of people actually consider Sumahama to be better than Here Comes The Night. It is after all IMHO (and I've said this before, and I'll say it again) the worst song the BB's ever did other than the songs off SIP.
I'd like to know why people dislike the disco Here Comes The Night so much (aside from the length, which is understandable). I think it's very well made, and doesn't deserve the hatred it gets around here!

Sumahama

Sumahama.

Here Comes The Night

Replace it with California Feelin' and another gem from Bambu as you have a genuinely great album... L.A. is such a missed opportunity.

I believe that people hate it because it's too far from the standard BB sound. Plus disco is a genre that possibly most of the hardcore BB fans hate, and that's why they like to hate HCTN. I've played it to people who don't mind too much about Beach Boys or disco music and they liked it.

That's interesting. I myself for the most part don't mind Disco. It's certainly not my favourite genre, and I don't care for a large percentage of it at all. If I was around in the late 70's, I would have considered it to be highly overrated, and the Disco lifestyle is...... "shudder".
But for the most part, it's tolerable, and I consider the disco Here Comes The Night to be one of the very best of the genre!
It's all subjective though, I suppose a lot of people may have different opinions on that

Wow.

It really isn`t.

Wow. Get help

I'd really hate to derail this thread (and I speak for this clown as well), but I'm only quoting this because he keeps editing his posts to cover his tracks and this was his original quote.

I missed you!  :)

My vote is Here Comes The Night, only because it's just so darn long. I kinda dig it otherwise.

My vote goes to Here Comes The Night. If it were shorter, it might be tolerable, but its just way too long.

Sumahama

Disco

I don't exactly HATE here comes the night (disco), it's just I can't get over the length. A ten minute song has no place on a pop album, unless that's how long it takes to sing all the lyrics (cf. Dylan) but should be kept to the 12 inch single exclusion zone. It's particularly unacceptable on a record from the former kings of the killer two-minute single.
As for Sumahama, it's so teeth-rottingly oversweet it's almost admirable, like a big pop art sculpture of a marshmallow. I don't like it but it's an interesting curio, and it served its purpose as a sop to Mike Love's ego.

OK, I'm quoting this one, but this applies to both you and Jarhead... both please stop firing each other up.

@ halblaineisgood: even if it's meant to be funny - aggressive comments are not wanted here. Ignore, or take it to PM's
@ Jarhead: I understand your response, but be aware that by replying this way you're not exactly helping to cool things down. Again the advise is ignore, or PM's. and in case of a complaint report it to the mods.  

That is such a genius description. I love it.

Agreed. And it neatly captures exactly what I like about the song.

This is a tough call between "Here Comes the Night" and"Sumahama."  I don't hate either song (though Mike's Japanese is tough to listen to), but I don't like either one very much either.  I guess I would be more likely to skip "Here Comes the Night" because it's way too long.

Here Comes The Night.

I edited away the japanese parts and then it's quite alright.

This is that edit isn`t it?  ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neHcU18ZESM

Here Comes the Saturday Nite Fever.   :hat

Here Comes the Nights on Broadway  8)

Here Comes the Boogie Nites  :afro
no thereit goes...  ;D

here comes the disco night

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Here Goes The Night, wearing platform shoes and polyester short shorts. (http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/images/smilies/survivor.gif)

As usual vote for your least favorite track. The track with the most votes gets voted off.

Tally on March 28th

Good Timin'
Lady Lynda
Full Sail
Angel Come Home
Love Surrounds Me
Sumahama
Baby Blue
Goin' South
Shortenin' Bread

Round#1 - Here Comes the Night March 28

From Disco to the most BORING song in the entire Beach Boys oeuvre. Voting out Goin' South.

Sumahama

sayonara sumahama

Sumahama

Goin' South

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Angel Come Home

Sumahama

Sumahama

Sumahama

Sumahama

Sumahama

Shortenin' Bread.

I like Sumahama, and Goin' South is lovely.

Shortenin bread

sumahama

Goin' South

Shortenin' Bread

Full Sail. More boring than Goin' South, I think...

Shortenin Bread as it is a pointless inclusion

Sumahama.

Sumahama

Goin' South, way too rocking for my taste :drum

Full Snail.

I implore ye who feel Goin' South is a little on the boring side to have another listen while in a mellow mood, and picture the swallows leaving Capistrano, and be moved by Carl's yearning vocal during the snow drifts interlude.  

If you have a HiFi rig that lets you fold-down to mono, hit the button and the cheesey solo sax will disappear down the back of the mix.  It's a great ballad with plenty on offer, and maybe pales in it's post Baby Blue sequencing.

Sumahama

"Goin' South" made explicit the Beach Boys' direction from then on...so it has my vote again.

Goin' South, though I would't mind seeing Full Sail go now either

Shortenin' Bread.

Sumahama

sumahama gets my vote

Sumahama.

Sumahama

Lady Lynda

Bread.

Good song but "Love surrounds me"

I really like this album

Suma Hamming it UP

Sumahama.

"Sumahama"

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Sumama has jumped off of Lover's Leap in Old Japan. (21 votes) (http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/images/smilies/survivor.gif)

As usual vote for your least favorite track. The track with the most votes gets voted off.

Tally on April 1st

Good Timin'
Lady Lynda
Full Sail
Angel Come Home
Love Surrounds Me
Baby Blue
Goin' South
Shortenin' Bread

Round#1 - Here Comes the Night March 28
Round#2 - Sumahama March 30

From Disco to the most BORING song in the entire Beach Boys oeuvre. Voting out Goin' South.

Goin'

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Goin' South

Goin' South

Goin South i guess. I see no other option.

Shortenin bread

Goin' South

Still think Sumahama should have went in the first round....

Anyway as for my next vote, it's a choice between Goin' South and Shortenin' Bread.

One's silly and repetitive but fun and goofy, and the other's a one-way trip to Dullville.

My vote goes to Goin' South.

Shortenin' Bread

Shortenin Bread

Full Sail

Shortenin' Bread

(like the Adult/Child version though...)

Mainstay of UK compilations, always raising the question "Is THIS the best 1970s Beach Boys could do?"

Lady Lynda

Shortenin' Bread

Goin' South.

Shortenin' Bread

Lady Lynda

Hmmmm  Goin South, Full Sail or Love surrounds me.  3 boring tunes.

Guess i'll go with the boringest.. Goin' South.

Goin South

Goin' South.

Shortenin Bread

South

Lady Lynda

goin south

Goin' South

Goin' South

Bread

Full Sail

Lady Lynda

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Less Dough (Shortenin' Bread)

Goin' South

Shortenin' Bread

Goin' South

Love Surrounds Me

Goin' South

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Goin' South has gone south. (19 votes) (http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/images/smilies/survivor.gif)

As usual vote for your least favorite track. The track with the most votes gets voted off.

Tally on April 3rd

Good Timin'
Lady Lynda
Full Sail
Angel Come Home
Love Surrounds Me
Baby Blue
Shortenin' Bread

Round#1 - Here Comes the Night March 28
Round#2 - Sumahama March 30
Round#3 - Goin' South April 1

Full Sail is the other SUPER BORING song on this album. Snooozzzzzzzzzzzzeeeeee.

Shortenin' Bread

Why the hell is it still here?

Shortenin' Bread

I really recommend giving Full Sail another listen. For me it was one of those songs that just clicked one day and that I've loved ever since.

Full Sail

Shortenin bread

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I love Full Sail and Goin' South. Get in the right mood and they're heavenly.

Bread

Full Sail

Shortnin' Bread.  I actually like "Full Sail" quite a bit (and I don't even particularly like most of Carl's songs from the early 70s).

Shortenin' Bread

Bread

Full Sail

Though one between Lynda and Full Sail.

Let's vote Full Sail, that's the one that goes anyway.

Bread

Full Snooze

Snorting Bread

Shortenin Bread

  Shortenin' Bread

   I never had any real issues with Sumahama. The rest of the remaining tunes are at times first rate and pleasant/inoffensive at worst. I see more than ever what a good album L.A. might have been.

Full Sail

Shortenin' Bread

Shortenin Bread

Bread, but I won't shed a tear if Full Sail goes--they both stink like a full diaper pail

Slimmin' Wallet

Full Sail

I don't get all the disses on "Shortnin' Bread" -- that's my no. 1 BB guilty pleasure.

Lady Lynda

For me, it's the bgv's in the chorus that got me hooked.

And yeah, Shortenin' Bread is my vote.

Two songs left that are not so good... One's silly (but fun), one's just boring. So that makes it kind of easy:

Full Sail.

Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring

Inoffensive but boring.. not what I want on a beach boys album.

Full Sail

Lady Lynda

Shortenin' Bread for sure

Fool Sale

I like the song but it's the lesser of the evils right now.

Full Sail

Full Sail. It's still great though.

Mama's little baby loves

Your vote was too cryptic or clever for me so it wasn't counted.  :3d


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Shortnin' Bread was sure not short on votes! (19 votes) (http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/images/smilies/survivor.gif)

As usual vote for your least favorite track. The track with the most votes gets voted off.

Tally on April 3rd

Good Timin'
Lady Lynda
Full Sail
Angel Come Home
Love Surrounds Me
Baby Blue

Round#1 - Here Comes the Night March 28
Round#2 - Sumahama March 30
Round#3 - Goin' South April 1
Round#4 - Shortenin' Bread April 3

Full Sail is the other SUPER BORING song on this album. Snooozzzzzzzzzzzzeeeeee.

Lady Lynda

Full Sail

Full tilt catatonia inducing fuckin' soft-on sail

Full Sail

Love Surrounds Me

"Lady Linda"  Holding on tight, but for how much longer.  Those of you who voted off "Shortenin' Bread" must not have seen Carl, Mike and Brian(pounding away on the Grand) do it Live.  Berkeley 1979, the crowd went pogo-nuts in the sandbox*.  Back then Brian chain smoked on stage, but set it in the ashtray so he could give it a shout.  After the song was over I yelled to Carl, Do "How She Boogalooed It."  He noticed, but just smiled down with a "Get a Grip" look.

Full Sail

I love every song on this album, and now we are down to the cream of the crop. Hard to vote at this point.

I'll have to go with Baby Blue

full sail

This one, I also predict, will win.

I hope Love Surrounds Me will win, but I'd be just as happy if Baby Blue will win.

I see it as a showdown between Love Surrounds Me, Baby Blue and Good Timin'. Frankly, I see Baby Blue winning.

I see a showdown between Baby Blue and Good Timin'

True. I could definitely see Good Timin' winning as well.

Full Sail might not be the most exciting piece out there, but the lyrics are quite elegant and the theme is appropriate for a late 70's beach boys. It fits with Good Timin and all that, more so that Lady Lynda which is J.S. Bach's worst song ever.

Die Lady Liberty!

How did Al manage to screw things over even more?
 Can't wait to hear Gold Rush

Ahhhh... Lady Lynda. Takes me a while to get it, but I get there in the end.  :lol

Love Surrounds Me

 Full Sail

Full Sail

Full Sail

Full Sail

Full Sail

loves urround sme

Full Sail.

You seem to spend your whole time voting for what are clearly the better songs from these albums? i.e. My Diane, Baby Blue, etc. Is it an attention-grabbing act or are these genuine choices?

Lady Lynda

There's a much, much better bootleg version which ditches the over-production and the classical intro/outro, and instead has a long fade on the gorgeous 'ooh lady won't you lie lady' reframe. It's far nicer.

If we all had the same opinions then it would be a dull board surely...

Why even say that when the vote is based on Smilers' own opinions?

Like Eric, I'm struggling to pick just one this time around. Unlike Feelsflow I can't vote for a song on the basis that they did it better live; unlike Disney Boy I can't vote off a track on the basis that there's a better unfeleased live bootleg version, when we're supposed to be voting for released album tracks on heir own merits (that's just attention seeking! :lol ).

And I wish Goin' South was still in the pot as I think that track's beautiful.

Gonna go with Full Sail as I think that would be the first track I'd start skipping if I had them all playing in a continuous loop on a desert island for a month!

Lady Lynda

Full Sail.

That and Lady Lynda mark a mid-range between the good songs and the weak ones IMO.

Cant believe Full Sail is still here.. at least Shortenin bread rocked a bit on this dull album.


Anyway,  Full Sail.

Full Sail

"Genuine choice" I reckon.

Full sale again.

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Um. They are genuine choices. For the first four rounds, I voted for Shortenin bread. I vote for my least favorite every time. I don't vote strategically like some do, and I definitely don't vote for attention. L.A. is my 2nd favorite Beach Boys studio album of any era, and I love every song on it. At this point, with these final 6, it's a matter of which song I love but not as much as the others...

Fair enough. I know you're on record as saying L.A. is one of your very favourite BB albums (and good for you, it's great!), so just surprised to see you voting for Baby Blue which is generally considered one of highlights - if not the highlight - of the album. It's just surprising to me that someone who rates L.A. so highly wouldn't therefore be overly keen on Baby Blue. It's like someone who loves Pet Sounds not being overly keen on God Only Knows. I'm not saying it's not allowed - just that it's surprising.

Cool, yeah I'm my opinion, though, L.A. is definitely an album full of highlights, but what the highlights are definitely differs from fan to fan. Much like Surf's Up. I can think of at least 5 tracks on Surf's Up that could be hotly contested favorites. Same with L.A...I can see at least 4, if not 5 or 6, that would be very popular with fans. Baby Blue for me, was kind of a grower for me, whereas all the other remaining tracks had an immediate impact on me.

It's a problem with the nature if the polls. It's easy to interpret a vote as an expression of dislike but that's not the case: here, a vote against one song is, in fact, more a vote in favour of the remaining songs.

Fair point.  I was in such a good mood yesterday - that can get you in trouble.  Too many good memories, just thought I'd share one.  Wasn't really how much I like one track or another.  I'm voting on the basis of the studio track.  Everyone has a right to their opinions.  I would have certainly voted off "Shortening Bread" before "Goin' South."  After "Lady Lynda" I won't know were to go.  When you have so many great, and important (the Dennis tracks) to vote off - it gets tough.  Got a soft spot for all of these tracks.  Missing Carl and Dennis plays into it at this point of their catalogue.  Many of these albums have been difficult to treat as a game.  What's been fun about playing Survivor is that as we go through each set of albums, I focus and listen to ones I don't play as often.  I play L.A. often.

Very cool post… I hadn't consciously registered that missing Carl and Dennis affects my take on these tracks but I think you're right, it really does.

Full Sail

Full Sail

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Fuuuuuuul Saiiiiillllll snored it's self away. (http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/images/smilies/survivor.gif)

As usual vote for your least favorite track. The track with the most votes gets voted off.

Tally on April 7th

Good Timin'
Lady Lynda
Angel Come Home
Love Surrounds Me
Baby Blue

Round#1 - Here Comes the Night March 28
Round#2 - Sumahama March 30
Round#3 - Goin' South April 1
Round#4 - Shortenin' Bread April 3
Round#5 - Full Sail April 5

My vote for least favorite has to be Love Surrounds Me. It's just a smidgen less boring than Full Sail.

Very toughie but Lady Linda has to go…

Was delighted to bits when my fave band released that as a single in the UK in '79 as it sounded to me like a decent song… and it did chart if I recall correctly.

Lady Lynda

Man she's holding on!

Love Surrounds Me

Definitely Lady Lynda next.

This is easy..  Love Surrounds Me. 

I usually love Dennis' songs, but this one is like slow torture waiting for it to end.  I feel there were much better Bambù tracks available than this.

Love Surrounds Me

Not so easy as these are all fine fine music,  but I`ll call Love Surrounds Me - kicks my ass everytime, tho`.

Fyi, Lady Lynda Top Tenned it in the UK.

All the remaining songs are excellent.

But I guess I have to go with the weakest remaining track, much as I love it:

Jesu, Joy Of Man's Desiring

Lady Liberty

Lady Lynda!


P.S. I don't get the votes for Love Surrounds Me. IMHO it's the best song off this album and is Dennis's last masterpiece!

Lady Lynda

No way is Love Surrounds Me a masterpiece.  I find myself skipping it all the time when listening to Bambù and IMO it drags down the LA album as well. 

Lady Lynda.

Love Surrounds Me

Lady Lynda

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Lady Lynda

Lady Lynda

Baby Blue

Good Timin'

Good Timin'

Love Surrounds Me

Lady Lynda

As I said before, there's an earlier take on bootleg that's far nicer.

Lady Lynda

Love Surrounds Me

I vote for my least favorite every time. I don't vote strategically like some do,
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^ I appreciate this.  As in the show Survivor, I like to act as though everyone's votes are veiled when I cast my own, so I like the spirit of that--though I s'pose that voting strategically is also in the spirit of Survivor, just in a different way.  :)


And now I vote LSM.

Love surrounds me

Love Surrounds Me. The other Dennis songs here are fine but this one's a tad drab.

Angel Come Home

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Oo Lady won't you lie lady won't you vote me off! Darlin' you know it's time to go. (12) (http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/images/smilies/survivor.gif)

The track with the most votes gets voted off.

Tally on April 9th

Good Timin'
Angel Come Home
Love Surrounds Me
Baby Blue

Round#1 - Here Comes the Night March 28
Round#2 - Sumahama March 30
Round#3 - Goin' South April 1
Round#4 - Shortenin' Bread April 3
Round#5 - Full Sail April 5
Round#6 - Lady Lynda April 7

My vote for least favorite has to be Love Surrounds Me. It's just a smidgen less boring than Full Sail.

This is where it gets tough for me.  These are the 4 songs I really like on LA.  I am going to vote for "Good Timin'"

I really like all these songs, however it has to be Love Surrounds Me.

Great track but a tad overproduced.

good timing

Angel Come Home.  It's a case of a song I really like, but its slickly produced background vocals pull it down a notch.  I think I would love this more in virtually any album before it, because I'm not a fan of how the Bruce-produced albums work some of the vocals.

It's an amazing song, brilliantly sung by Dennis, with a lovely sounding backing track - but yeah, those background vocals on the chorus could've been better...

Love Surrounds Me

We don't need "Good Timin'"

Love Surrounds Me.

Love Surrounds Me

Lsm

Good Timin'

Love Surrounds Me

Angel Come Home

Love surrounds me. 

wow this is getting hard.. so I guess "Love Surrounds me"

Love Surrounds Moi - lovin' the Denny Heavy top 4

  Love Surrounds Me

Angel Come Home.

Can't believe all the votes for LSM. I personally think it's the best BB's song post-Holland!

Love Surrounds Me

Love Surrounds Me by some distance

good timin

Ah, now it gets really tough. I'll vote for Love Surrounds Me, only because the other 3 are so good.

Yeah.  I like all the remaining songs, and the background vocals on this one put it slightly behind the other remaining tracks.

Count me among the people rooting for "Love Surrounds Me" to win this round.

Good Timin'

Love Surrounds me

Good Timin'

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Can't make up my mind, sitting this round out.

Interesting...I see a winner emerging.  Unless there's some other reason nobody is trying to vote off "Baby Blue."

Baby Blue

Not a big deal voting for Angel Come Home, considering it is the weakest remaining song. And technically it's a Carl song with Denny vocals

Love Surrounds Me

Love, sir, hounds me.

Mike Love Surrounds Me

Angel Come Home

Love Surrounds Me

Angel Come Home

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Love Surrounded me with 20 votes. (20) (http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/images/smilies/survivor.gif)

As usual in the final round of Survivor, we VOTE FOR OUR FAVORITE TRACK!!!!

Tally on April 11th

Good Timin'
Angel Come Home
Baby Blue

Round#1 - Here Comes the Night March 28
Round#2 - Sumahama March 30
Round#3 - Goin' South April 1
Round#4 - Shortenin' Bread April 3
Round#5 - Full Sail April 5
Round#6 - Lady Lynda April 7
Round#7 - Love Surrounds Me April 9

Angel Come Home has some cool things about. The verse melody is great. But I don't feel like it's the greatest.

Good Timin' is a Beach Boys classic. I do prefer the version with Dennis on main vocals. It doesn't give me the chills the way....

...Baby Blue does. Carl's vocals are soulful and ethereal. The lyrics are heart warming. When Dennis first comes in singing "Late at night I feel the whole world sleeping" it just gives me a thrill that not many other Beach Boys songs do.

BABY BLUE.

Baby Blue

Angel Come Home

Baby Blue!

Good Timin'

I like Angel Come Home, and Baby Blue more than Good Timin'.  I originally voted for Angel Come Home, but am changing my vote to Baby Blue.

Good Timin'.

Baby Blue

Baby Blue

Angel Come Home

Baby Blue

Angel Come Home

Good Timin'

I think the top 3 that came out actually are the top 3 in this case.

Baby Blue (eyes)

Good Timin'

Good Timin'!

Baby Blue

Good Timin'

Good Timin'

baby blue

Angel come home

I agree the top 3 made it

Angel come home

Baby Blue

Good timin by a thousand miles.

Baby blue has some beautiful singing but drags on a bit.  It it was like a minute shorter i'd enjoy it more.

Angel come home is nice but wished it rocked a little harder.

Good timin is a flat out classic.

Baby Blue, hands down!

Come on people, it's Denny's time to win!

Good Timin'

Baby Blue

Angel come home, by a very narrow margin for me, over good timin.

I don`t think any are absolute classics...

But I guess I`ll go for Good Timin

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The problem with Good Timin' is simple: It just doesn't seem finished.

It's got some excellent singing, but it's a little too short and doesn't feel like a complete song.

So it should be a landslide for Baby Blue. But at least Baby Blue is still ahead of the others!

Good Timin'

Good Timin'

BABY BLUE

With. Out. A. Doubt. It's a masterpiece.

Sure, Good Timin' is lovely and full of great harmonies, but it really doesn't compare to Baby Blue which is just such an amazingly crafted, beautiful piece of work. It's just absolutely stunning. When I first played it to my girlfriend, she cried.

It really will be pretty shitty if we get to the end of these Survivor rounds and Dennis doesn't win a single one. He was such a talented and original songwriter.

Agreed all the way. It was sad that he lost the 20/20 round, tragic that he lost the Sunflower round, and absolutely devastating that he lost the Odds and Ends Round. If Denny doesn't win this round, I don't know what my reaction will be...
Baby Blue is still not quite as good as Love Surrounds Me (Baby Blue is the second-best song off this album), but it sure as hell deserves to win now!

As I said earlier, Good Timin' has beautiful singing, but it just feels incomplete. It's got nothing on Baby Blue.

Good Timin'

Kinda tempted to vote GT just to see  ;D but nah - Baby Blue

For the record, Love Surrounds Me is my favourite song on the album too. Really surprised it didn't make the top three.

Good Timin'

Hmm. baby blue is a great Dennis vocal.

but Good Timing is my fav-O-rite on LA. Sorry Denny.

At present I count:

15 votes for Baby Blue
17 votes for Good Timin'

Come on Denny fans, get voting!! Angel Come Home voters: dig Dennis? Change that vote!! After this he dies, so it's now or never...

I counted 16 for baby blue, and 17 for good timin, but I could be wrong. I voted for Angel come home, which has 7 votes, I think. But if I did change my vote, it would be to good timin. (I had to delay voting because I couldn't decide)

He may win for My Diane... possibly... But Baby Blue really pretty much is his one shot at a slot in Super Survivor.

He didn't write My Diane. Was God Only Knows a win for Carl?

True. I keep forgetting that Brian wrote this one. It just sounds so dennis-esque to me.

Ok, changing my vote from ACH to Baby Blue.

Baby Blue.

It's 17 each to Baby Blue and Good Timin'

Exciting stuff!  :-D

Good Timin'

Just went back and changed my vote to Baby Blue.  I like it and Angel Come Home more than Good Timin'.

I agree with both of you.  this is supposed to be Denny's decade and he hasn't won yet?  Baby blue is a beautiful song and it's so gentle.  Denny was full of surprises  :angel:

good timin

True. It's quite sad that Good Timin' is one vote ahead of Baby Blue. Hopefully Baby Blue will win though. This is Denny's last chance!

Good Timin'

What? Here Comes the Night didn't make it?    :afro
Ok, give me Baby Blue

Good Timin'

Best song here.

I have a feeling some people are voting Good Timin' to make the two of you mad.  :lol

 ;D

They should vote sincerely. If what you're saying is correct, it's a bloody disgrace to both themselves and Dennis, and Spite votes should not be counted as legitimate.

IMO Little Bird and this are the two occasions that Dennis contributes the best song on an album.

IMO2.  ;D

"Baby Blue" has my vote.  I just don't understand you Good-Timin'-folk...Carl sounds wimpy on it (that's the best word I can think of to describe it...).

baby blue

Tally in a few hours.

technicals, sincere-ilies, unfinished fetishes, wimpy's on vocals - I'll take that one.

Baby Blue in the lead!! Let's get that tally in now  :-D

SO tempted to change my ineffectual vote for Angel Come Home to Good Timin'............just to stir the pot...

But I won't, on principle. I vote for the song I like best, period.

Vote ends now (perhaps temporarily).

I count both Baby Blue and GOod Timin' at 21 votes each.

I'll recount.

Is the first survivor thread where people were openly campaigning for votes?  :police:

A draw would be interesting - have we even taken into account what happens in the event of a draw? I think it should just be that BOTH songs go through to the final.

This time I counted 21 for Baby Blue and 22 for Good Timin'.

Someone else want to recount?  :lol

Oh noo!

Good Timin' is great, but in no way best of L.A.  :)

This is the count I came up with, too.

This was an interesting album for a Survivor thread. It really got BLOODY at the end. Just how I like it!  :lol


It looks like that Angel never came Home. (5) (http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/images/smilies/survivor.gif)

Baby Blue eyes went blind for crying too much by this unjust loss. ( :'() (21) (http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/images/smilies/survivor.gif)

The Winner of the 27th round of BEACH BOYS SURIVOR IS..... with 22 votes



Round#1 - Here Comes the Night March 28
Round#2 - Sumahama March 30
Round#3 - Goin' South April 1
Round#4 - Shortenin' Bread April 3
Round#5 - Full Sail April 5
Round#6 - Lady Lynda April 7
Round#7 - Love Surrounds Me April 9
Round#8 - Angel Come Home April 11
Round#8 - Baby Blue April 11

 :'(

 :lol

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Ha, very good  ;D was half expecting some one post wonders to start showing up and voting near the end there  ;D

My personal compilation of survivors will include Baby Blue dagnammit!  >:(

 :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up163cMB9rs if only it had sounded like this......  ::) ::) ::) ::) once again Denny got the short end of the stick :wall

A terrible result. Utterly lame. Very disappointed...  :(

Hadn't heard that one! That's awesome. "Carl was supposed to sing that"  ;D

Good post. I too prefer the Dennis lead vocal. I think this is the only survivor album that I 100% disagree with.

The best song won.

Baby blue is pretty, but IMO is a bit long and drags a bit.  After repeated listens i find myself getting bored.

Good timin' on the other hand gives me pure bliss every time i hear it.. Carl harmony perfection.


I think Forever and WIBNTLA should be representing Dennis in the final survivor round.

Neither of those won their respective rounds. Baby Blue was Dennis' only shot.

Ultimately 21 people agreed with me and 22 people agreed with you about which was the better song.

That's the game. It can be a bit brutal for some. :'(

Yeah, I'm over it now.  :lol

yup that's why this is so disappointing   :( personally though, I'm a little bit past disappointed...

Awwww, you poor babies  :'(

May I offer the following wise, wise words to console and help y'all through the dark days ahead:

All us people
Now we're just livin'
The world keeps turnin'
And we're all learnin'

*pixletwin gnashes teeth and hurls might fist towards the heavens*

 :smash :smash :smash :smash :smash

How could this be?!

This means not a single Dennis song won any Survivor round!

I guess this proves he's not overrated, and he's not the sacred cow.

I hope the Brian fans are happy  >:(

This kind of reaction is exactly why I stopped voting back in the early rounds. Christ, when you can't even like what you like, it takes all the fun out of being a part of something like this. I never thought I would be considered "Utterly lame" for liking Good Timin'. Gotta love this place!

Oh well. I guess when you are a fan of losing team you have to accept that that is what they are.  ;)

drbeachboy, come back. It's all in good fun (for most of us  :lol).

Exactly! this proves what we were arguing about earlier (it just happened to get out of hand then)  most BB fans have claimed that the best songwriter in the 70s was Dennis Wilson not Brian.

Yep. By far the best songwriter of the Beach Boys in the 70's was Dennis. Yet he lost every single bloody round!
What more proof do you need that Dennis is underrated?

amazing isn't it?  ::)  even if I wasn't so much of a Dennis fan as I am now I would still think something was wrong with this.  I can honestly understand why he lost in the beginning with Friends and 20/20 (he was just starting out then) but by this point...

Yeah, maybe (much as I love his songs on them). But this? This is fucking disgraceful. Dennis is rolling around in his grave because of these results.

But I expected it. I foresaw Good Timin' winning this round many rounds earlier, due to the voting trend. Sadly, I was accurate. I wish this round went a day longer so some extra votes could go to Baby Blue.

And I'm pretty sure there were a few spite votes against Baby Blue by voters who normally don't vote!

yea those "spite votes" are really dumb.  You're supposed to vote because you like the song, not to "try to annoy" other voters  ::)

I kept my vote with Angel come home. Not my favorite on the album, but it was my favorite of the 3. I always vote for my genuine favorite (or least favorite, according to the round), even if my vote won't make a difference in the outcome.

Exactly. There should be a rule where spite votes are discounted. Only problem is, it's not easy to tell which one is a spite vote or not.
But remember the 20/20 round where SMiLE Brian voted against All I Want To Do? That was an obvious spite vote. He never voted before, and he never voted since.

Are you kidding me? Dennis wouldn't give one solitary sh*t about any of these polls.

You're really blowing this out of proportion. They're just songs. You can still listen to them.
It's just a silly little contest among fans. It's not the final word on what song is better. It's just a collection of opinions.


And breathe....

It's very sad that the fans say None of Dennis's songs are worthy of winning the poll.
And I think Dennis had low self-esteem with his songwriting, correct me if I'm wrong. He was very upset that no one in the band cared about his songs much. And it looks like it's the same with the fans  :'( :'( :'(

TBH probably cause of you, spite votes killed it...and your reaction with the whole mess of emoticons proves it

Good Timin' sounds like a paint-by-number song. Yea, it has some great harmonies but it doesn't have the beauty and emotion of Baby Blue. I am disappointed too.

you're right he did have a low self-esteem and the band's jealousy towards him didn't help either.  Remember they threatened to kick him out of the group if he proceeded with the POB tour (he didn't have the budget anyway but still) the fact that they did that is sick  >:(

As I've said, Spite votes should not be counted as legitamite

Well to the best of my knowledge the BB's never did Baby Blue live , but we did a number of years ago ( amateur footage ) not the best sound quality so listen loud on headphones  :smokin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8vdYbpyBgA

It was off by one vote. A track 'winning' doesn't render all the others vastly inferior. Furthermore, as said by Mr. Waves, this whole Survivor thing isn't intended to be the all-time final consensus on the best Beach Boys tracks - it isn't written in stone, it's just a bit of fun, and certainly wouldn't have any band members rolling in their graves.

My introduction to Baby Blue was the "Bamboo" CD put together by Dan Addington.

At the time LA Light was out of print and when....a couple years later I got to hear it...I much preferred the "Bamboo" version.

Always found the LA version too sterile...still my fav song on this album though..

I know this is all in fun but it just seems odd to me that not one of his songs has won a single round ???  I mean he was an extremely talented guy who surprised everyone (he went from someone who was just going along for the ride to a prominent songwriter and singer)

eh, yeah but he is up against one of the greatest songwriters of all time so its not easy..

Exactly. Very sad.
I was hoping at least one would win. And now he will never win.
Poor Dennis  :'(


But in the 70's Dennis's work surpassed Brian's easily. If it was the 60's, you have a point. But as Retrokid says, the 70's was Dennis's decade, just as the 60's was Brian's decade, the 80's was Carl's decade, and the 90's onwards belong to Mike.

Brian is one of the greatest songwriters of all time but that doesn't mean that all of his songs were better than Denny's songs.  I think it's safe to say that Brian's songs weren't as "genius" as they were from the mid to late 60s and early 70s by this point in time.

Much as I love Dennis songs...he never wrote anything as good as "Til I die" and even with his best stuff. he was still behind Brian for all the seventies bar POB.

I bet he could've if he would've had more confidence.  Everybody gave Brian a big pat on the back in everything he did every chance they got, meanwhile Denny's stuff got rejected and criticized. 

^^^^ pretty much this^^^^^

that doesn't make it right.

Pixletwin, what is your opinion on Spite votes? Would you count them as fair and legitimate, or unfair and illegitimate?

what about fair and illegitimate?  ::)

People love Brian`s songs which takes nothing away from Dennis. Forever, for example, is a lovely song but This Whole World was a worthy winner.

In this round Good Timin` is a very highly rated song so it`s not exactly the equivalent of Baby Blue being voted out before Here Comes the Night...

sure wouldn't

I don't think people should do spite votes, but I suppose it's kind of in the same category as those who switch their votes strategically.

Ultimately it's all in fun, so I wouldn't take it too seriously. But I wish people hadn't spite voted. With switch voting I think it doesn't actually change the final vote. It's impact is limited. But a spite vote can louse up the purity of a game. But again, I hope people aren't taking these games quite that seriously.  :3d

Yeah, I agree. It's sad that people actually use spite votes, they should just vote honestly.

 :)

Presumably you think Good Timin` was included on TWOTS in spite as well?

Some people actually like that song you know.

Definitely. We have been saying since early on that Good Timin could just as easily be a winner and it was. It was a spirited match. It was fun.

I liked Good Timin' the most of the three songs, so I voted for it. Isn't that point of the game? As usual, LSM has turned this into a troll fest  :(

Reading the last few pages reminded me exactly why I've stopped voting on these threads. Nothing against you Pixletwin, but some people simply suck out the fun in this thread by taking it waaaaay to serious.

Also, Reply #375 needs to be removed. Why the **** was that necessary? :brow

As usual, Woodstock has put the blame on the post-round arguments on one person, and one person only  ::)

He has the right to blame you. You decided to post one of the single most childish responses (reply 375) ever on this forum and go on a tirade just because a Dennis song hasn't won. Those posts were clearly bate for post-round arguments, dude.

Sometimes it's best to keep one's mouth shut.

Not really. In fact it had already started before I joined in. Disney Boy, Retrokid... and the rest.

Using one as a scapegoat is not right in any circumstances.

At least you edited your post from 100 angry emotes to 50. That was thoughtful, thank you  :)

Well I hate to see people leaving the game. I feel like leaving this thread open is just going to get people angry so I'll just temporarily close it. We'll be playing new rounds next week. We have the 80's ahead! So I foresee a fun and drama-free survivor.


I agree. If some folk are finding the survivor game is insulting their sensibilities and frustrating what they perceive as their sense of justice, maybe they should be the ones taking a break. Stick around thedumbangel. We need people with a variety of backgrounds and opinions. That's what makes the game fun. Hopefully everyone can dig that.

The results are what they are. Yes, some of us are disappointed. Let's move on.  :banana

Thread is open.

Lets be friends! Lets be friends.

Lets be...

FRIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEENNNNNNNDDDDDDSSSSSSS!  :lol

I think the Dennis not winning anything needs some perspective.  For me there are two albums where Dennis contributes the best song (Friends and L.A.), but its not like theyre slam dunk decisions.  Sunflower seems like the other option that has a lot of weight, and Forever is a good choice too even if I prefer This Whole World and All I wanna do.  Only 4 of the 7 70s albums have Dennis songs, two of which were close calls.  It doesn't seem to me like some obvious winner were upset, because I don't believe there is an album where a Dennis song obliterates all else.

"Forgive your brother
For life is precious"

-Dennis Wilson

I was going to vote for "Baby Blue" just to give Denny that illusive win, when I started thinking about how "some of you" were talkin' up this idea that a win is not a win unless the winner wrote the song - not good enough to just sing it...technicalities.  What about the Cover Versions?  Someone singing another members songs - quite common.  Started me wondering about other rounds, other records.  These votes go so strange.  Tracks I've loved since release just get trashed...15 Big Ones comes to mind.  L.A. is, for me, a near Carl solo album.  Not uncommon for one of the albums to focus on one member or the other.  There is a reason Dennis asked Carl to sing his songs.  Carl wasn't on the side-line holding up his hand going, "Me, Me."  These choices were thought out, just like when Brian did it.  This "spite" angle now comes in as the most recent "tactic" - like we need to feel sorry for Dennis, or Heaven forbid those who think their fandom is more important than who (Who?).  Spite?  Get off of It!  I voted for the song I liked Best of the Final choices.  simple.  I believe I did vote for "Cuddle Up" - but you may have noticed by my voting pattern that I like Carl's voice a whole lot more than Dennis' from any era.  Carl's writing is as good too.  I was crushed when "Girl Don't Tell Me" didn't win.  Surprised it wasn't more cherished.  Didn't even make it to the Final.  How many of you were disappointed?  I wasn't taking names...and not the only hammer to fell one of my favorites.  There are two tracks on L.A. that I like better than "Baby Blue":  "Goin' South" and "Full Sail" - even "Love Surrounds Me" - those did not make it to the Final Round.  I don't recall calling anyone out, as "fans of The Beach Boys" claimed they were boring, slow, whatever...Cause this is just a GAME we are playing to pass the day away.  How could pixletwin possibly figure out if someone WAS making a spite vote?  Is he the Mentalist?  And, not to single you out (I'm not wanting these arguments that belong in PMs, if anywhere, to go any further), Rei You should EDIT that reply #375, to at least one emoticon.  What will future guests and posters think in years to come?  Folks like you who look at the past of this Great Forum looking for Threads to pull up from the depths.  They're gonna' find That?  But then how will they know which you was you you might ask.  It's not too difficult, we all have Post History.  I could just PM you again...but that doesn't seem to be working.  You are not a troll in my book, but please tone-it-down.  It gets hard on my hand having to scroll down half a page to get to the next admonishment. ;D

Another Popcorn fantasy.  Next Round...

I have nothing more to add to this thread, the winner is the winner. Good Timin' is still a great song, and it's definitely in the top 3 of this album.

And it has come to my attention that there are still Denny songs on the upcoming Odds and Ends round, so thankfully It's Not Too Late! (Pun intended)

If I had to rank the tracks on this album, it would go something like this:

1. Lady Lynda
2. Love surrounds me
3. Full sail
4. Angel come home
5. Good timin
6. Here comes the night
7. Baby Blue
8. Goin south
9. Sumahama
10. Shortenin bread

But really I love every song on this album!

I never said I disliked Good Timin'. In face I really, really like that song. Just not as much as Baby Blue and Love Surrounds Me.
If you get rid of the Dennis songs, then Good Timin' is my favourite off this album

Here's mine, from my least Favourite to my Favourite:

10. Sumahama.
9. Goin' South.
8. Shortenin' Bread.
7. Full Sail.
6. Here Comes The Night.
5. Lady Lynda.
4. Angel Come Home.
3. Good Timin'.
2. Baby Blue.
1. Love Surrounds Me.

This says something else entirely:

Dennis loved Brian, and he would be happy to see the love his brother's songs receive.

There are indeed...oh and Still I Dream of It  >:D

 :lol :lol :lol

No way this is not trolling.

:lol Hey, don't scare 'em off before the fun starts!

It's not. It is disgraceful that Dennis hasn't won a single Survivor round. Though there's still the next Odds and Ends round... we'll see what happens then.

We have a winner for that round already..... ;)

Dennis' best BBs stuff was unreleased or used on his solo album, enough said.

Impossible - he was creamated.

Who Dennis? More like buried at sea.

Maybe there'll be a POB round.

Denny! :rock

POB and Bambù round please!

If this'll make the Dennis fankids stop crying, I'm all for it!

Whats gonna happen if a Carli Munoz song wins Bambu?

Hahaha..  now THAT would be funny.

Dennis has more fans than you give him credit for  :lol

Took a listen to Still I Dream Of It recently and was not impressed one bit. At best it's a "Meh".

Oh, and It's Over Now is Awful.

I would bet that both Still I Dream of It and It's Over Now to both make the final 3. Still I Dream is my absolute fave of the list thus far assembled.

I disagree. The survivor rounds are focused on Beach Boys albums, not Solo albums. It's too late to start with them, as Bruce Johnston's and David Marks's solo albums predate Dennis's. If you're going to do one, you may as well do them all.

Honestly I'd just be happy (As well as Retrokid, Disney Boy and all other Dennis fans around here) if a proper Dennis song wins at least once.

You fiend!

You fiend!

You fiend!!

Here's the trend so far:
#1. Surfin' Safari (Brian Wilson/Mike Love)
#2. Surfin' USA (Brian Wilson/Chuck Berry)
#3. In My Room (Brian Wilson/Gary Usher)
#4. Ballad Of Ole' Betsy (Brian Wilson/Roger Christian)
#5. Don't Worry Baby (Brian Wilson/Roger Christian)
#6. I Get Around (Brian Wilson/Mike Love)
#7. Please Let Me Wonder (Brian Wilson/Mike Love)
#8. California Girls (Brian Wilson/Mike Love)
#9. There's No Other (Like My Baby) (Phil Spector/Leroy Bates)
#10. God Only Knows (Brian Wilson/Tony Asher)
#11. Surf's Up (Brian Wilson/Van Dyke Parks)
#12. Heroes And Villains (Brian Wilson/Van Dyke Parks)
#13. Little Saint Nick (Brian Wilson/Mike Love)
#14. Darlin' (Brian Wilson/Mike Love)
#15. Busy Doin' Nothin' (Brian Wilson)
#16. Time To Get Alone (Brian Wilson)
#17. I Do (Brian Wilson)
#18. The Little Girl I Once Knew (Brian Wilson/Mike Love)
#19. Breakaway (Brian Wilson/Murry Wilson)
#20. This Whole World (Brian Wilson)
#21. 'Til I Die (Brian Wilson)
#22. All This Is That (Al Jardine/Carl Wilson/Mike Love)
#23. The Trader (Carl Wilson/Jack Rieley)
#24. Just Once In My Life (Gerry Goffin/Carole King/Phil Spector)
#25. I'll Bet He's Nice (Brian Wilson)
#26. My Diane (Brian Wilson)
#27. Good Timin' (Brian Wilson/Carl Wilson)
#28. Goin' On (Brian Wilson/Mike Love)

Aside from Bruce, Dennis is the only member of the classic line-up of the Beach Boys to not have a song win a Survivor round. Considering his talent, this is plain sad.

Well, you see, you could put up a lot of people against Brian Wilson (even people more talented than Dennis), and Brian would still come out on top.
The guy is just one of the most musically talented people to ever cut a record. That's no mark against Dennis, it's just how it is.

Why is it at all sad that Brian Wilson, the Beach Boys best and most prolific songwriter, has taken most of the wins? Remember, this is an OPINION BASED POLL to see what songs majority of hardcore fans like. Every song listed as a winner is AMAZING!

This doesn't mean you can't listen to the music anymore, or Dennis is any less good, so why moan about it so much?

I think you are taking this a tad seriously.

And your concern for Dennis is nice but as the great Mike Love said, `Save it, he`s not here!`.  ;)

People love Dennis`s music. But they are allowed to love the other band members` music as well.

Majority of the people on here much prefer Brian's music. Why can't you just accept that?

It's really not that big of a deal.

I'm also glad Brian's taking the lion's share. He deserves it, but is it too much for Denny to win just once?

I honestly think that most of the songs by Dennis that are very worthy of winning were either released on POB or went unreleased.

Songs like River Song, Carry Me Home, Thoughts of You, and My Love Lives On could easily be winners if they were released on a BB's album.

My Love Lives On is a excellent song, it has seriously grown on me. And it will be on the upcoming Odds And Ends round. Who knows, it might win

Wow, so those are all the winners from the survivor threads, eh?  That's really cool.  B-tchin' album right there.

Question -- there's a few that are singles only, right?  What's the deal with those?  How'd they make the cut?

They were winners of the odds n ends rounds.

That's sure to get everyone on your side.

One of those will win the next odds n sods

At this point I've kinda given up, and I was only giving my honest opinion on the two songs

Whilst its fair to say Love Surrounds Me goes a little overboard at times, it's always nice to see someone so deeply passionate about the Beach Boys and Dennis. And hey, I agree: Still I Dream of It and, especially, It's Over Now aren't much cop. I don't particularly rate either. Brian at his most boring and uninteresting.

Agreed with Still I Dream Of It. Though that's not the reason why I dislike It's Over Now.
Carl sounds drunk, the production is awful, Musically bland and uninteresting...
Basically put, everything that Gabo seems to hate about Dennis songs, bar the 70's rock and sexuality. A boring, sappy love song. Worse than some of Bruce's songs in that category!

I like the speed corrected version of It's Over Now on MIC.  The slower version on the GV box is horrible IMO.

Still i dream of it is pretty cool too as long as I can get by the "time for supper now" line which is cringeworthy.

It's Over Now musically bland? Have you tried figuring out those chord fingerings? See for example the analysis of it on surfermoon.com.

The "heaven" coda to it is one of the most beautiful BBs musical moments in the whole catalog.

:lol

I wouldn't say it's that cringe-worthy. When people are depressed, often times it's manifested in eating - which is what's going on here.

The `When I was younger` line is worse.

It doesn`t scan at all.

I think that dinner line is all about setting the scene. When I listen to the demo I imagine Brian in his comfortable home noodling at the piano as his maid prepares dinner. Brian's not much of a braggart and I imagine the casual reference to his maid is his way of telling us: "I'm in the middle of a pretty cushy situation". This makes the song all the more powerful for me. Even surrounded with material comforts a lot of people don't have, he yearns for something more, something different to end his unease.

Well put Quzi.

Interesting perspective, Q.  I see it as nothing more than a stark omission of his terrible mental condition.  Sloughing around in bunny slippers or something.  Loosely tied bathrobe, unable to figure out what to do.  Impatient yet immobile.

Tortured.  Unshaven and scribbling meaningless, mundane entries into his diary that tell us nothing and everything -- Got up today.  Ate food.  Still alive.

Be it technically complicated to play or not, it just doesn't do it for me at all. To each his own I guess.

Apart from when they're voting against a Dennis song, right?  ;D

The saving grace on the light album was def. A combo of good timin and the songs dennis gave em from bambu- mostly babyblue and angel,,

Love Surrounds Me equally IMO.

Plus, I'd add Lady Lynda. So what if Al took the first part from Bach? It's one of his finest moments!

Yeah thats the best way to make music is mixing bits n pieces of whats good

Angel Come Home is not from Bambu. It's a Carl Wilson song sung by Dennis. The Zoo version is pretty good too. The video is cool too. It has an Old West theme to it.

A thankfully inaccurate guess  ;D (Even if My Love Lives On was the third song voted off on Super Survivor #3)

It trips me out how bruce produced such great records b4 he was a beach boy and the when he came back in 78 after bein gone six years he produces a couple of the weakest albums in the BBs catalog.. dont get me wrong I like bits and pieces of the Light album and Keepin the summer alive but the fact that the BBs started getting hits on the adult contemporary charts and remaking their classic Here comes the night into a disco song really showed how desperate they were at that time. Love you was such a raw album, punk rock to me, MIU had its moments but gets such a bad rap...but look at the new direction rockNroll took starting in 77- the Ramones came along and revitalized rock music/ Rocket to Russia was such a masterpiece and the influence of the BBs in those songs was beyond prevalent right?

The lyric just sounds ridiculous in that melody. It's also really, really bad as an opening lyric. The opening lines ruin the song for me.

I feeeeel liiiike eaaaatiiiiing nooowww

I never understand when I sometimes see dolts undermine brian' s lyrics. Hes written & composed the best music of the last 50+ yrs and its as prevalent as can be yknow... what about all the awful cornball beatles songs from their last 3 post- revolver yrs right

You use the word "prevalent" a lot and you never use it in a way that makes any sense to me.

So what if he's composed the best music of the last 50+ years? Everyone is open to criticism. Besides, he wrote the best music of the last half century, not the best words.


This isn't about The Beatles. Why must people always bring the f*cking Beatles into this?


No.

Kook Adams is a kook about the Beatles. Phew runs a group on Facebook that pretends to be about the beach boys but is actually about how much he hates the Beatles and seeks pats on his back for how clever he is in his disdain.

no kookadams is a kook for saying what others are afraid to. And its always easy to criticize what isnt typical or predictble/ kookadams doesnt undermine or dislike the fabricated four- he is aware and appreciates their output of 64-66, ...and yhe facebook group is the #1 BBs but will never except horseshit.

?? Then who wrote them? Bob dylan cuz thats what rolling stone says to believe and mtv...

 
No, you're right, you're a hero. A spokesman for the people! Jeez, what an inflated sense of self...


Fabricated four? Who do you think we're talking about - The Monkees? That makes no sense. That's just some lame, ill-conceived put down.
Do try harder.


... is this a sentence?


In fact, yes. Perfect example. Bob Dylan is one of the greatest lyric writers of all time. If Brian ever wrote something to match "It's Alright Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)", I've never heard it.

The replies on here are hilarious sometimes. People make ridiculous remarks undermining brian wilsons writing on a beach boys thread and Im the weirdo for disregarding the typical bs thats commonly seen.  And when were the monkees involved in this topic? Its hilarious and sad when people get irked any time the beatles are regarded without praise. A mediocre english pub band gets discovered by a brilliant producer , gets mass marketing and polished up enough to be seen as the greatest act in showbiz but all the substantial details are eschewed... I dont undermine the beatles, from 64 to 66 they made some good tunes but the infectious addictive quality of the beach boys was and is beyond definition. The only other rock acts of the 60s that came close were jan&dean and the 4 seasons... the british invasion spawned some great records but I wouldnt worship any of em.. I give the who credit for the ready steady go ep- barbara ann and bucket t- highlight °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°

Just how is the post-66 Beatles stuff bad?
And you seem to dismiss the many great British bands of the era (besides the Beatles and the Who). Like the Rolling Stones, the Animals, the Yardbirds, etc. In their own way they were all brilliant as well.

All you need to know is because kook said so. He is a drummer, so he outta know. He is a maverick. He is a trail blazer. He paves the way for others to follow...

He is also the least self aware person I have ever come across on the internet.  :lol

The extent to which you don't understand is incredible.

I say the stones starting with aftermath, their first orig album and beneath the buttons. The kinks and animals were great, there was a lot of great english groups, I never said there wasnt. I dont get what I said thaf gets misconstrued.