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Title: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: pmugghc on October 09, 2013, 08:25:56 AM
I was turning on my phone with MIC on it, wanted Steamboat, confident it was there but no! So I'll start with my "missing tracks" list:

1) I've got a friend (live)
2) Steamboat


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Niko on October 09, 2013, 08:37:26 AM
More than anything, All I Wanna Do

Then Big Sur 4/4
In The Back of my mind backing track
more Love You tracks
and the (apparently) better mix of You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Cabinessenceking on October 09, 2013, 08:40:38 AM
Our Life Our Love Our Land
Gold Rush
Hard Times
We Got Love
Don't Let Me Go
All Of My Love (short, but so is 'I Believe In Miracles')
You Are So Beautiful (studio or live version)
Lookin' Down The Coast
Lucy Jones
Come To the Sunshine

1974/75 version of any of the following:
In The Back Of My Mind
Angel Come Home
River Song
Good Timin'
I Want To Pick You Up
Rainbows
Pacific Ocean Blue


furthermore:
Deep Purple
Life Is For The Living
Still I Dream Of It (with same style remixing as was done on It's Over Now (alternate mix))
Cool Cool Water
River Deep Mountain High
Lady Lynda or Full Sail (Brian's Back was not appropriate imo)
Big Sur 4/4


not saying all of this should be out ofc, but more of it could certainly make the cut. Even if only a couple of them. Transcendental Meditiation, Pom Pom Girl and Don't Go Near The Water (both versions) could easily face the axe.



Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: The Shift on October 09, 2013, 08:48:08 AM
Just Got My Pay (love this track… can't get enough of it)
Child is Father of the Man
Barnyard
(without fly-ins, with backing vox/animal noises)
Carry Me Home

All hither-to unreleased Can't Wait Too Long/Been Way Too Long sections

All hither-to unreleased Adult Child tracks

All hither-to unreleased "New Album" tracks

All hither-to unreleased 15 Big Ones outtakes

All hither-to unreleased Sunflower/Add Some Music outtakes

Sail on Sailor cassette demo

Live at Carnegie (any year, any performance all performances!  :)  )

A bonus CD of stray Beach Boys work for other artists, esp backing vocals - Elton's Don't Let the Sun, Chicago's Wishing You Were Here, etc*)

… fer starters …

* "Etc" = can't think of any others just now…


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on October 09, 2013, 09:23:37 AM

Carry Me Home
My Solution
It's Trying to Say
Lines
Life is For The Living
Deep Purple
Everybody Wants To Live
On Broadway
Big Sur alt
Seasons in the Sun
Barnyard (sans fly-ins)
Fire (sans fly-ins)
Child is Father of the Man (Brian edit)
I'm Going Your Way

I don't care if they've already been booted, I want them officially with good sound quality.  ;)

Also - more Jasper Dailey tracks. There should be a worldwide search going on for them. "Teeter Totter Love" was THE highlight of the entire Smile Sessions box.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: mathen_ on October 09, 2013, 10:26:45 AM
I Do (from the Shut Down Vol. 2 two-fer)
Still I Dreamed Of It
Won't You Tell Me
Stereo version of All Dressed Up For School (sounds awesome!)
Smiley Smile two-fer version of Can't Wait Too Long
Loop De Loop with Brian and Al's vocals
Early version of Big Sur (the one wth more prominent vocals and ''waltz-style'')
Stephen Desper mix of 'Till I Die (why not?)


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on October 09, 2013, 10:29:18 AM
A 20 minute background vocal montage '63 - '66


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Smilin Ed H on October 09, 2013, 11:12:27 AM
1.   Go Away Boy (track)
2.   Gonna Hustle You
3.   Everybody Wants to Live
4.   Lines
5.   Stevie
6.   Carnival
7.   Big Sur
8.   Santa Ana Winds
9.   Lookin’ Down the Coast
10.   Carry Me Home
11.   California Slide
12.   Hard Times
13.   We Got Love
14.   Go and Get That Girl
15.   I’ve Got A Friend (track AND live version)
16.   My Solution
17.   Walkin’
18.   New England Waltz (track)
19.   Out in the Country
20.   Seasons in the Sun
21.   Surfer Suzie
22.   10,000 Years Ago (track)
23.   You’re Riding High on the Music
24.   It’s a New Day
25.   Little Red Book
26.   River Song live
27.   Lookin' At Tomorrow (the live prog rock version!)


1.   Come to the Sunshine
2.   Ride. Arabian, Ride
3.   Dr Tom
4.   Game of Love
5.   Beatrice from Baltimore
6.   Gold Rush
7.   Malibu Sunset
8.   Oh Lord
9.   Rubles
10.   Our Life, Our Love, Our Land
11.   Won’t You Tell Me
12.   On Broadway
13.   I Don’t Wanna Know
14.   Getting In Over My Head
15.   Country Pie (live AND the Celebration version)
16.   You Are So Beautiful (live)
17.   Almost Summer

I can't remember why I originally had two lists. Clearly, some of these are not the best things the Boys (in any form) worked on, but I'd love clean copies; on top of that, the existence of some of these as finished songs is uncertain, but if they do exist: yes please.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: runnersdialzero on October 09, 2013, 11:36:39 AM
There's a Beach Boys song called "Ride, Arabian, Ride".

I justmkgnangaug


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Phoenix on October 09, 2013, 11:38:08 AM
Didn't we do this before?  Either way, he's a bunch:

We Got Love
Hard Times
It's a New Day
Here She Comes (remixed!)
Carry Me Home
Big Sur (original version)
In The Back Of My Mind (70's version)
Almost Summer (Celebration)
Jumping Jack Flash (live)
Seasons In The Sun
River song (live)
You Are So Beautiful (live)
You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone (live)
I've Got A Friend (live)
Somewhere Near Japan
Chasing The Sky
Here Comes The Night (1979 radio edit)
Beach Boys Medley
Then I Kissed Her
All I Wanna Do
On Broadway



Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Smilin Ed H on October 09, 2013, 11:46:43 AM
There's a Beach Boys song called "Ride, Arabian, Ride".

I justmkgnangaug

Yeah, but I suspect it's about a horse so don't get too excited!


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Freddie French-Pounce on October 09, 2013, 12:12:24 PM
Didn't we do this before?  Either way, he's a bunch:

Here Comes The Night (1979 radio edit)
Beach Boys Medley


If you're labelling those as rarities, they're pretty easy to get on one comp. In the UK at least.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: ash on October 09, 2013, 01:10:34 PM
Recently auctioned Durrie Parks acetates.
Child Is Father Of The Man BW edit
In The Back Of My Mind backing track - one of the single greatest pieces Brian recorded. Completely ruined by  DW's vocal. Sorry but i really can't stand it.
Do You Like Worms with a lead vocal from Al with original melody line and lyrics.
The remaining tracks from the BBC Top Gear session.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Phoenix on October 09, 2013, 01:31:43 PM
Didn't we do this before?  Either way, he's a bunch:

Here Comes The Night (1979 radio edit)
Beach Boys Medley


If you're labelling those as rarities, they're pretty easy to get on one comp. In the UK at least.

Nope.  Some on my list were rarities others, just charting singles I feel should have been included on the "career spanning boxed set."  Hence, the additional inclusion of "Then I Kissed Her". :)


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Wrightfan on October 09, 2013, 01:36:10 PM
*Big Sur 4/4
*Won't You Tell Me (Brian and Carl's vocals aligned better.)
*What Can the Matter Be?
*You Never Give Me Your Money
*Clean copies of the original edits of Loop de Loop, When Girls Get Together, Good Time and Lady.
*An instrumental version of Sherry.
*Adult/Child

You can't get everything though  ;D Something tells me there will be a Sunflower/Surf's Up box in a few years. At least I hope lol.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Phoenix on October 09, 2013, 01:36:19 PM
Do You Like Worms with a lead vocal from Al with original melody line and lyrics.

If only...!   :bow

Recently auctioned Durrie Parks acetates.
Child Is Father Of The Man BW edit
The remaining tracks from the BBC Top Gear session.

These would have been nice too.



Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on October 09, 2013, 01:57:05 PM
Michael Row The Boat Ashore


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Heysaboda on October 09, 2013, 03:32:22 PM
So, given this lack of some other rarities, are people a little ambivalent about MIC?


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on October 09, 2013, 04:04:31 PM
Also - more Jasper Dailey tracks. There should be a worldwide search going on for them. "Teeter Totter Love" was THE highlight of the entire Smile Sessions box.

There are only two others, and there's no need to search - same place as "TTL" was.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: ash on October 09, 2013, 04:21:14 PM
Well my kids will be happy. They thought Teeter Totter Love was hilarious and much better than cd2 of the Smile box set which they found somewhat repetitive. "dad put teeter totter on again..it's hilarious...dad..this one's boring put on teeter totter"
I'm  sure i remember reading that the other acetates by Jasper were lost but thanks for confirming they exist or have emerged in some form Andrew. As my kids are fast asleep right now i'll just make two additions (on their behalf) to my earlier list re Durrie Parks acetates, Big Als Big Dig Worm lead vocal etc.

and my children want to know why MIC did not include

Crack The Whip
When I Get Mad I Just Play My Drums


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Jim V. on October 09, 2013, 05:08:32 PM
I'm kinda of two minds. I like having more unreleased stuff to look forward to. So I'm glad they didn't empty the vault (just as I never expected them to!)

Anyways, here's a few that I would like to see released in the future:

"My Little Red Book" (1968)
"Carry Me Home" (1972)
"Lucy Jones" (1974)
"In The Back Of My Mind" (1975)
"Calendar Girl" (1978)
"Little Girl" (1979)
"I'll Always Love You" (1979)
"Why Didn't I Tell You?" (1979)
"Smokey Places" (1979)
"Stevie" (1981)
"Sweetie" (1981)

and then a few that might not have vocals or be totally finished, but would still be interesting:

"Spark In The Dark" (1972)
"Baby I Need Your Lovin'/Gimme Some Lovin'" (1972?)
"Rooftop Harry" (1972)
"Brian's Jam" (1974)

All kinds of other stuff would still be interesting by the way. Backing tracks, early version, vocals-only versions. There is still a lot of interesting Beach Boys and Brian Wilson stuff to be released.


So, given this lack of so other real rarities, are people a little ambivalent about MIC?


I'm not sure if this is a joke or something, but no, not me at least. Thanks to the release of the set, I now have stuff I'd dreamt about for years, like "Where Is She?" and the demo of "California Feelin'", not to mention great stuff like "(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again", the official Beach Boys version of "California Feelin'", the live "Wild Honey" with Blondie on vocals, "You're Still A Mystery", "Back Home", and lots of other stuff.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Eric Aniversario on October 09, 2013, 05:41:26 PM
A few years back, a doobie bros boxed set came out, filled with hits, rarities,  live tracks. But for whatever reason, Without You was omitted. Many collectors and fans, though they probably had purchased the song 10x over, were astonished. I feel the same way about MIC omitting Then i Kissed Her. Glaring oversight on an otherwise great box. it just doesn't feel complete without it. Salt lake city, which I don't think anyone was clamoring for, could have easily been dropped in favor of it. A cool but inessential album track with a 12 year old mix...it would not really have been missed.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Marcella on October 09, 2013, 06:08:48 PM
I can't believe no one has said Long Promised Road

IMO Long Promised Road > Feel Flows, but since Cameron Crowe expressed his love of Feel Flows and placed it prominently in Almost Famous, Feel Flows has, in the words of another poster on here, become the go-to "Carl as artist" track. I still prefer Long Promised Road


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: The Shift on October 09, 2013, 06:21:16 PM
This thread is already the root of MiC vol II.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Phoenix on October 09, 2013, 06:41:26 PM
A few years back, a doobie bros boxed set came out, filled with hits, rarities,  live tracks. But for whatever reason, Without You was omitted. Many collectors and fans, though they probably had purchased the song 10x over, were astonished. I feel the same way about MIC omitting Then i Kissed Her. Glaring oversight on an otherwise great box. it just doesn't feel complete without it. Salt lake city, which I don't think anyone was clamoring for, could have easily been dropped in favor of it. A cool but identical album track with a 12 year old mix...it would not really have been missed.

As I said, I totally agree.  And that's a perfect comparison with the Doobies too.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Phoenix on October 09, 2013, 06:42:02 PM
So, given this lack of some other rarities, are people a little ambivalent about MIC?


Not me but given a "wish"...


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Eric Aniversario on October 09, 2013, 09:54:24 PM
A few years back, a doobie bros boxed set came out, filled with hits, rarities,  live tracks. But for whatever reason, Without You was omitted. Many collectors and fans, though they probably had purchased the song 10x over, were astonished. I feel the same way about MIC omitting Then i Kissed Her. Glaring oversight on an otherwise great box. it just doesn't feel complete without it. Salt lake city, which I don't think anyone was clamoring for, could have easily been dropped in favor of it. A cool but inessential album track with a 12 year old mix...it would not really have been missed.

As I said, I totally agree.  And that's a perfect comparison with the Doobies too.
Thanks Phoenix! Upon rereading my post, i saw an auto correct mistake and fixed it. Inessential, not identical


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Lonely Summer on October 09, 2013, 11:26:27 PM
I was turning on my phone with MIC on it, wanted Steamboat, confident it was there but no! So I'll start with my "missing tracks" list:

1) I've got a friend (live)
2) Steamboat
You have MIC on your phone? You mean you dialed a number and heard MIC on someone's answering machine? I'm confused.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Micha on October 10, 2013, 12:30:57 AM
My realistic wishlist:

Lady ("Landlocked" mix instead of what they included)
Big Sur ("Landlocked" mix)
Suzie Cincinnati ("Landlocked" mix instead of what they included)
What'd I Say
CIFOTM (Brian 1966 mix)
Here Today (mono)
Drive-In (mono)

The not-so-realistic wishlist:

I'm Broke (Brian 1996 vocals)
It's Not Easy Being Me (Brian 1996 vocals)
Surf's Up live with strings early 70s

Totally unrealistic wishlist:

Do You Like Worms (finished version with new vocals from Al, Bruce and Mike)
CIFOTM (finished version with new vocals from Al, Bruce and Mike)
Holidays (finished version with new vocals from Al, Bruce and Mike)
Look (finished version with new vocals from Al, Bruce and Mike)


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: ash on October 10, 2013, 03:51:17 AM
Good list Micha.
However your "unrealistic" wishlist is perhaps only 3/4 unrealistic. I'm not sure how hard it would be for Al to sit down with Brian and Van Dyke, play them that vocal snippet from the boxset and say "Gee Brian i'd love to finish this one up it was always one of my favourites and all it needs is the 2nd part of the melody line. I've got the lyrics here. Just how much cake do you need to remember the rest of that melody ? We can play it live or i can dub on the lead in half an hour with Mark Linnett for the Smile Volume 2 box. It'll be a smash.We're bound to sell a million units."

Holidays/Look and Child are more difficult as we have so little to go on unless something (missing Look vocal multitrack/composing demos ?) turns up or unless Brian has a mahoosive flashback.
Given current circumstances i think the unrealistic bit might be the Mike/Bruce overdub but we don't need them for this track.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: chris.metcalfe on October 10, 2013, 06:27:39 AM
This thread is already the root of MiC vol II.

which is so going to happen.



Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: pmugghc on October 10, 2013, 07:14:45 AM
You have MIC on your phone? You mean you dialed a number and heard MIC on someone's answering machine? I'm confused.

Yes, a Nexus 4 smartphone with 16GB memory, using it instead of an MP3 player.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: shangaijoeBB on October 10, 2013, 08:09:22 AM
what I would like to see as a 2cd comp sequel to MIC (Brothers Years rarities):

cd1 (1969-1976)

Add Some Music To Your Day (Alternate lyrics)
Im' Goin Your Way
Walkin'
My Solution
Big Sur (Landlocked version)
Seasons in the Sun
Sweet & Bitter
Awake (demo)
Won't You Tell Me
It's A New Day
Ecology/All My Love
Iv'e Got A Friend (track+live)
We Got Love
Carry Me Home
Out in the Country
Hard Times
River Song (early version)
Battle Hymn of the Republic (yes!! ;))
Rollin' Up to Heaven
Child of Winter (alternate mix)
We Gotta Groove
Michael, Row the boat Ashore
Mony, Mony
Running Bear
Shake, Rattle and Roll
Sea Cruise
Ruby Baby

cd 2 (1976-1981)

The Night Was So Young (vocals only)
That Special Feeling
My Diane (early version)
Lazy Lizzie
Marilyn Rovell
Life is for the Living
It's Trying To Say
Everybody Wants To Live
Lines
Shortenin' Bread (early version)
New England Waltz
How's About a little bit of your Sweet Lovin'
Go and Get That Girl
Brian's Back (early version)
Calendar Girl
Looking Down the Coast
Santa Ana Winds (early version)
River Deep, Mountain High
Be my Baby
Stevie
Oh Lord (KTSA outtake)



Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Smilin Ed H on October 10, 2013, 08:37:50 AM
But it has to be the proper Out in the Country.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Micha on October 10, 2013, 10:02:01 AM
Good list Micha.
However your "unrealistic" wishlist is perhaps only 3/4 unrealistic. I'm not sure how hard it would be for Al to sit down with Brian and Van Dyke, play them that vocal snippet from the boxset and say "Gee Brian i'd love to finish this one up it was always one of my favourites and all it needs is the 2nd part of the melody line. I've got the lyrics here. Just how much cake do you need to remember the rest of that melody ? We can play it live or i can dub on the lead in half an hour with Mark Linnett for the Smile Volume 2 box. It'll be a smash.We're bound to sell a million units."

Holidays/Look and Child are more difficult as we have so little to go on unless something (missing Look vocal multitrack/composing demos ?) turns up or unless Brian has a mahoosive flashback.
Given current circumstances i think the unrealistic bit might be the Mike/Bruce overdub but we don't need them for this track.

I'll probably annoy you now, but I think the DYLW vocal snippet from TSS is a background vocal line, and I could go without it, though I'd prefer that touch of color to be there. I'd be happy if they completed it as they are on BWPS, and I want Mike on lead for Holidays and the CIFOTM verse "Easy my child..." Al or Bruce should do the lead on DYLW.
And if it was a realistic wish, they could have done it for TSS.

On my realistic list I forgot "Custom Machine".


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: TimmyC on October 10, 2013, 10:10:14 AM
I know I will be flogged (edited in) for what I'm about to write, but I don't care, it cannot be said enough, and it should be repeated on a daily basis until someone who matters hears it: THIS BOX SET IS A TRAVESTY for the simple fact that the same m----erf-----g g----d-----n greatest hits songs were repeated AGAIN for the gazillionth time, most recently a YEAR ago in the form of not just one, but TWO greatest hits compilations: 50 Big Ones and Greatest Hits. The idea that the casual fan was going to spend 125 g----d---n dollars on a Beach Boys box set is ludicrous. It was only EVER us die hards who were EVER going to spend 125 on a box set, and we have the vast majority of the songs on the box set 100 times over. For the LIFE of me, I don't understand why we didn't boycott it.

What OBVIOUSLY should have been released is a comendium of all unreleased tracks. And I'm talking truly unreleased (including live tracks) and not the 2013 mix of California Girls (or whatever) or the stereo mix of This Car of Mine (or whatever). Why did we not riot over MIC?? I just don't understand. For the record, I DID NOT buy it. I would buy anything by the Beach Boys including an album full of Teeter Totter Loves, but I REFUSE to pay BIG MONEY for a set that is primarily composed of tracks I already have in my collection not just once, but in many cases a dozen times over (again including from 2012's 50 Big Ones which I DID stupidly buy just to show my support).

The posters on this site are incredibly, incredibly intelligent. So the how hell did you let yourself get snookered? ONCE AGAIN???


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: TimmyC on October 10, 2013, 10:10:38 AM
meant to edit my previous post... sorry....


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: ash on October 10, 2013, 10:20:13 AM
You could well be right on Worms Micha. I'd love to know either way and i wanna hear the "Having returned to the east or west indies " lyrics in context sung by Al too.
I'm not convinced by the additions on Child,Holidays and Look on BWPS. I would like someone to sit the guys down and quiz them about all these little Smile mysteries...they may know nothing but i don't believe i've seen them asked directly.
There have been some amazing archival finds in the non-beach boys world recently...Laurel and Hardy,Orson Welles,Metropolis,Johnny Kidd and The Pirates (i found that one !),The 3 Stooges etc. While we wait a definitive report on the recently auctioned Durrie Parks acetates i would suggest all is still not lost. I posted an article a year or so ago about record company archiving and they all have mahoosive piles of uncatalogued tape,unboxed etc. with no way of knowing what's on them until they listen to them. You never know...
Today's missing story recovery is that of Doctor Who...after midnight it'll be announced just what has been found ...an amazing story and hope for all of us.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Phoenix on October 10, 2013, 10:47:45 AM
I'll probably annoy you now, but I think the DYLW vocal snippet from TSS is a background vocal line, and I could go without it

Listen to these and tell me if you still feel that way.

http://www.mediafire.com/?jhz7t9q1o7g53mb

http://www.mediafire.com/?dztw18x2sazl1qb

I'm convinced that Brian remembered the lyrics in 2004 but not the melody.  The vocal line for the "worms" verses if very unlike the rest of Smile, and is barely a melody at all; more like a chant.  Given the context that could have been the intent but why check the tempo against an "insignificant" background part?  I'm pretty certain that was the intended vocal line.  It's my belief that if the "chant" was actually intended for the song in 1966/67, IT is the part that would have been the background part/counter melody, as I show the example in the second file. 

You have to use your imagination a bit and picture the respective line, each time I used the repeated snippet, but the lyrics are a perfect fit with the melody.  From the control room, Brian sings something like "A once upon a time in ala da da da da..."  It's pretty easy to see that line as "A once upon a time among the sa-and wich isles", or something to that effect.  The rest of it isn't a complete fit but that's why we need Al to finish it!  ;D

Either way, give them a listen and see if it changes your opinion.  If not, that's fine.  I just think that missing bit is the MAIN melody rather than a background part and think you might at least find that theory interesting.   :)


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: TopCat on October 10, 2013, 11:02:08 AM
What would I have wished to see on MIC? That's easy: a lower price tag.
(I'm still saving ..... by Christmas maybe.)

Sorry, couldn't resist. I'll fetch my coat.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Heysaboda on October 10, 2013, 01:23:59 PM

I'm kinda of two minds. I like having more unreleased stuff to look forward to. So I'm glad they didn't empty the vault (just as I never expected them to!)

All kinds of other stuff would still be interesting by the way. Backing tracks, early version, vocals-only versions. There is still a lot of interesting Beach Boys and Brian Wilson stuff to be released.


So, given this lack of so other real rarities, are people a little ambivalent about MIC?


I'm not sure if this is a joke or something, but no, not me at least. Thanks to the release of the set, I now have stuff I'd dreamt about for years, like "Where Is She?" and the demo of "California Feelin'", not to mention great stuff like "(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again", the official Beach Boys version of "California Feelin'", the live "Wild Honey" with Blondie on vocals, "You're Still A Mystery", "Back Home", and lots of other stuff.

No joke at all!  MIC is great for what it is, I just find myself wishing for more of these “rarities” that people are talking about.  Not being an “uber-collector” I’ve never heard most of these.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Micha on October 11, 2013, 05:33:29 AM
You could well be right on Worms Micha. I'd love to know either way and i wanna hear the "Having returned to the east or west indies " lyrics in context sung by Al too.
I'm not convinced by the additions on Child,Holidays and Look on BWPS.

I'm sure Look was never completely written back in 1966, and the finished BWPS version is a bit unconvincing but works in the suite. It's better than being left totally unfinished though. The CIFTOM verse lyrics are said to be written in 2003, but the "I believe... I believe... I believe..." is as good as if it was written in 1966. The Holidays lyrics however seem to be close to what was written back then, according to some circumstances.

I imagine the "Having returned to the east or west indies" lyrics were to be placed over the "winding down" harpsichord part before the fade. The "we always got them confused" would match the music quite well.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Micha on October 11, 2013, 05:42:44 AM
I'll probably annoy you now, but I think the DYLW vocal snippet from TSS is a background vocal line, and I could go without it

If you had bothered to quote my whole phrase you might have noticed it ended with "I could go without it, though I'd prefer that touch of color to be there." Would have saved you a bit of time posting all that. And FYI, I did use it as background vocals on my DYLW DIY mix on the second verse.

The main melody as on BWPS isn't very interesting, but there's no proof it was better in 1966.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: JK on October 11, 2013, 09:31:46 AM
Haven't seen "Thank Him (For Our Love)" in any of these lists. Might have missed it, of course. It's criminal that that gem has never officially seen the light of day...


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Blake Alan on October 11, 2013, 03:39:05 PM
Wich Stand


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Mikie on October 11, 2013, 03:49:50 PM
"Wich Stand" is a "Survivors" track.  Doubt we'll ever get to hear that.  Same with "Girlie" and "Hot Harp".


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Blake Alan on October 11, 2013, 04:05:41 PM
Yeah, a guy can hope though, right? My two biggest wants for MiC were 'Wich Stand' and 'Sound of Free'. I was actually pretty surprised to see either of them make it since neither were technically BB tracks. And yes, I'm afraid 'Wich Stand' will never see the light of day, given it's status as a Survivor's song. I mean, if not on a BB comp, where does it belong? Another BW productions comp?? There's probably plenty of material for a second volume, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Mikie on October 11, 2013, 04:27:22 PM
A little history behind the song "Wich Stand". Wiki fudges a little, saying it was written by The Beach Boys. Maybe one of them....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wich_Stand

http://www.wichstand.com/


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: runnersdialzero on October 12, 2013, 02:16:50 AM
m----erf-----g g----d-----n

Reported. What FILTH.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: rogerlancelot on October 12, 2013, 03:35:30 AM
m----erf-----g g----d-----n

Reported. What FILTH.

And I was going to use flatus and rectum in a sentence. Sure glad I got a hold of my senses first.

Seriously, I would love to hear clean professionally mixed copies of "My Solution" and "Carry Me Home". Plus maybe something from the axed Denny tour rehearsals. And those early 70's Carl demos with moog and such. Vocals only mixes of "Goin' On" and "The Trader" (first half). A 2013 mix on "Chasin' The Sky". Maybe the early version of "Keeping The Summer Alive" that is supposed to rock much more. You could go on and on and on or just simply be thankful for what they did give us. Glass is half full or empty scenario.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Jukka on October 12, 2013, 01:52:15 PM
You could go on and on and on or just simply be thankful for what they did give us. Glass is half full or empty scenario.

Yeah, but paying 150€ for a half full glass... (I do like what I got, though. I just wish I'd gotten more)


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: TimmyC on October 15, 2013, 01:50:22 PM
m----erf-----g g----d-----n

Reported. What FILTH.

And I was going to use flatus and rectum in a sentence. Sure glad I got a hold of my senses first.

Seriously, I would love to hear clean professionally mixed copies of "My Solution" and "Carry Me Home". Plus maybe something from the axed Denny tour rehearsals. And those early 70's Carl demos with moog and such. Vocals only mixes of "Goin' On" and "The Trader" (first half). A 2013 mix on "Chasin' The Sky". Maybe the early version of "Keeping The Summer Alive" that is supposed to rock much more. You could go on and on and on or just simply be thankful for what they did give us. Glass is half full or empty scenario.

If they gave us what they gave us and cut out all the stuff we already have a dozen times over, and priced it accordingly, I'd be ecstatic.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on November 09, 2013, 05:47:10 PM
I wish they had of included 'Kokomo' Spanish version......... and a track that this time included Brian on Vocals  ;)

Rb


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Joel Goldenberg on November 12, 2013, 11:18:11 AM
In The Back Of My Mind backing track - one of the single greatest pieces Brian recorded. Completely ruined by  DW's vocal. Sorry but i really can't stand it.

I didn't like it in mono or especially Duophonic, because his voice was overdubbed so many times. I like the new stereo mix better without all that overdubbing.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: roll plymouth rock on November 13, 2013, 01:06:20 AM
Still Cruisin'


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: donald on November 18, 2013, 04:38:56 PM
I have a very nice sound quality vinyl landlocked boot.   I'm going to finally put it on a USB turntable and get it in digital format.  then I can include those songs left off of MIC in my own comps.

Still f' ...ing around with vinyl boots after all these years!


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: rab2591 on November 18, 2013, 04:55:48 PM
Child Is Father Of The Man BW edit
In The Back Of My Mind backing track - one of the single greatest pieces Brian recorded. Completely ruined by  DW's vocal. Sorry but i really can't stand it.

Couldn't agree more. Blows my mind that BW's edit of CIFOTM wasn't included on TSS, let alone MiC.

As for the latter....I can't believe that that backing track didn't make the set. My heart sunk when the tracklist came out and ITBOMM instrumental was nowhere to be found. I've yapped about it plenty here, as have others. F8ck, even Bruce went on about that backing track on the Brian Wilson Songwriter DVD. I actually don't mind Dennis's lead, but for the love of god, it's a shame to have that backing track just sitting in the vaults.

Here's to hoping a hardcore-fan-only 2 disc album will be made soon...with all the goodies we want.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: bluesno1fann on November 18, 2013, 05:01:25 PM
In The Back Of My Mind backing track - one of the single greatest pieces Brian recorded. Completely ruined by  DW's vocal. Sorry but i really can't stand it.
Are you insane? Of course it's one of the most beautiful and I dare say one of their most underrated songs. But Dennis did a great job, it's one of his best pre-1973 vocals! The song wouldn't be the same without it.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Niko on November 18, 2013, 05:46:39 PM
I prefer the version that has just one track of Dennis singing. I think it's much more effective  :)


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: alf wiedersehen on November 18, 2013, 06:37:38 PM
I prefer the version that has just one track of Dennis singing. I think it's much more effective  :)

noooooooo anytthing that Dennis does is perfec and beautiful and you'r dumb


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Niko on November 18, 2013, 06:43:18 PM
k cuz bruc said


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Awesoman on November 19, 2013, 06:36:06 AM
Big Sir 4/4
Carry Me Home
River Song (live with Blondie vocal)
Chasin' The Sky (hey, if they can include "It's a Beautiful Day", they can include this)
Any unreleased live material with Blondie and Ricky
Stereo mix of "I Was Made To Love Her" with extended ending


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: John Stivaktas on November 22, 2013, 02:50:39 AM
Recently auctioned Durrie Parks acetates.
Child Is Father Of The Man BW edit
In The Back Of My Mind backing track - one of the single greatest pieces Brian recorded. Completely ruined by  DW's vocal. Sorry but i really can't stand it.
Do You Like Worms with a lead vocal from Al with original melody line and lyrics.
The remaining tracks from the BBC Top Gear session.

I think I would be willing to pay the cost of the MiC box just for these suggestions.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Micha on November 22, 2013, 06:53:41 AM
In The Back Of My Mind backing track - one of the single greatest pieces Brian recorded. Completely ruined by  DW's vocal. Sorry but i really can't stand it.
Are you insane? Of course it's one of the most beautiful and I dare say one of their most underrated songs. But Dennis did a great job, it's one of his best pre-1973 vocals! The song wouldn't be the same without it.

Hmmm... I don't think Dennis does it very well, I actually think he was a poor choice, but then, what do I know. And listening to the stereo version, I think there are parts where the strings should be louder, as they are so beautifully arranged and would give more effect to the recording. But then, the track as it is is better than anything on Love You for me...


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: rattfink on November 22, 2013, 06:56:37 AM
Drip Drop (Teardrops on my Bed)
Rollin' Up To Heaven (alt. Ding Dang)


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Disney Boy (1985) on November 22, 2013, 09:31:18 AM
Drip Drop (Teardrops on my Bed)
Rollin' Up To Heaven (alt. Ding Dang)

I would happily pay for a BB box set with 300+ songs on it that I already owned if these two were on their as well....  :)


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Orange Crate Art on November 22, 2013, 10:45:40 AM
My Solution and Life Is For The Living.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: rab2591 on November 22, 2013, 02:39:56 PM
The 1975 version of In The Back Of My Mind. I've no idea if it's any good, but it sure would be great to hear it.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Don Malcolm on November 23, 2013, 08:01:48 PM
OK, by piecing all the posts together, it looks like we have ~150 items, easily enough for a new box set.

I leave it to the true experts as to how it should be sequenced...

Here's the list in alpha order:

10,000 Years Ago (track)
A 20 minute background vocal montage '63 - '66
Add Some Music To Your Day (Alternate lyrics)
All Dressed Up For School stereo (sounds awesome!)
All I Wanna Do
All Of My Love
Almost Summer
Angel Come Home (74-5 version)
Awake (demo)

Baby I Need Your Lovin'/Gimme Some Lovin' (1972?)
Barnyard (without fly-ins, with backing vox/animal noises)
Battle Hymn of the Republic (yes!! )
BBC Top Gear session, remaining tracks
Be My Baby
Beach Boys Medley
Beatrice from Baltimore
Big Sur 4/4
Brian's Back (early version)
Brian's Jam (1974)

Calendar Girl (1978)
California Slide
Can't Wait Too Long SS-WH two-fer version
Can't Wait Too Long/Been Way Too Long unreleased sections
Carnival
Carry Me Home (1972)
Chasin' The Sky
Child is Father of the Man (Brian edit)
Child of Winter (alternate mix)
CIFOTM (finished version with new vocals from Al, Bruce and Mike)
Come to the Sunshine
Cool Cool Water (Wild Honey session)
Country Pie (live AND the Celebration version)

Deep Purple
Do You Like Worms, Al lead vocal
Don't Let Me Go
Dr Tom
Drip Drop (Teardrops on my Bed)
Drive-In (mono)
Durrie Parks acetates (2012)

Ecology/All My Love
Everybody Wants To Live

Fire (sans fly-ins)
Full Sail

Game of Love
Getting In Over My Head
Go and Get That Girl
Go Away Boy (track)
Goin’ On vocals only
Gold Rush
Gonna Hustle You
Good Time (clean edit)
Good Timin' (74-5 version)

Hard Times
Here Comes The Night (1979 radio edit)
Here She Comes (remixed!)
Here Today (mono)
Holidays (finished version with new vocals from Al, Bruce and Mike)
How's About a little bit of your Sweet Lovin'

I Do (from the Shut Down Vol. 2 two-fer)
I Don’t Wanna Know
I Want To Pick You Up (74-5 version)
I Was Made To Love Her" stereo, with extended ending
I'll Always Love You (1979)
I'm Broke (Brian 1996 vocals)
I’m Goin’ Your Way
I’ve Got A Friend (track AND live version)
In The Back Of My Mind (1975)
In The Back Of My Mind, backing track
It's a New Day
It's Not Easy Being Me (Brian 1996 vocals)
It's Trying To Say

Jumping Jack Flash (live)
Just Got My Pay

Keepin’ the Summer Alive (alternate)
Kokomo (Spanish version)

Lady ("Landlocked" mix instead of what they included)
Lady (clean edit)
Lady Lynda
Lazy Lizzie
Life Is For The Living
Lines
Little Girl (1979)
Little Red Book (1968)
Long Promised Road
Look (finished version with new vocals from Al, Bruce and Mike)
Lookin' At Tomorrow (the live prog rock version!)
Lookin’ Down the Coast
Loop De Loop with Brian and Al's vocals
Lucy Jones (1974)

Malibu Sunset
Marilyn Rovell
Michael Row The Boat Ashore
Mony, Mony
My Diane (early version)
My Solution
New England Waltz (track)

Oh Lord (KTSA outtake)
On Broadway
Our Life, Our Love, Our Land
Out in the Country

Pacific Ocean Blue (74-5 version)

Rainbows (74-5 version)
Ride. Arabian, Ride
River Deep, Mountain High
River Song (74-5 version)
River Song live, with Blondie vocal
Rollin' Up to Heaven
Rooftop Harry (1972)
Rubles
Ruby Baby
Running Bear

Santa Ana Winds
Santa Ana Winds (early version)
Sea Cruise
Seasons In The Sun
Shake, Rattle and Roll
Sherry (instrumental)
Shortenin' Bread (early version)
Smokey Places (1979)
Somewhere Near Japan
Spark In The Dark (1972)
Steamboat
Stevie (1981)
Still Cruisin'
Still I Dream Of It (alternate mix))
Surf's Up live with strings early 70s
Surfer Suzie
Suzie Cincinnati ("Landlocked" mix instead of what they included)
Sweet & Bitter
Sweetie (1981)

Thank Him (For Our Love)
That Special Feeling
The Night Was So Young (vocals only)
Then I Kissed Her
Til I Die Stephen Desper mix
Trader pt 1 vocals only

Walkin’
We Got Love
We Gotta Groove
What Can the Matter Be?
What'd I Say
When Girls Get Together (clean edit)
Why Didn't I Tell You? (1979)
Won't You Tell Me (Brian and Carl's vocals aligned better)

You Are So Beautiful (studio or live version)
You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone (live)
You Never Give Me Your Money
You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling.
You’re Riding High on the Music


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: beacharg on November 24, 2013, 08:34:55 AM
Wow! that's really a lot!


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: rattfink on November 25, 2013, 05:45:26 AM
OK, by piecing all the posts together, it looks like we have ~150 items, easily enough for a new box set.

I leave it to the true experts as to how it should be sequenced...
If this were ten years ago, I would wager that a group of like-minded folks would collaborate to make this into a project (remember Project SMiLE anyone?). With all of the blogs and message boards drying up, I don't this this would come to fruition now.  :(


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on November 25, 2013, 06:12:28 AM
One to add to the list: She Believes In Love Again (2012)


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on November 25, 2013, 08:29:14 AM
OK, by piecing all the posts together, it looks like we have ~150 items, easily enough for a new box set.

I leave it to the true experts as to how it should be sequenced...

Here's the list in alpha order:

10,000 Years Ago (track)
A 20 minute background vocal montage '63 - '66
Add Some Music To Your Day (Alternate lyrics)
All Dressed Up For School stereo (sounds awesome!)
All I Wanna Do
All Of My Love
Almost Summer
Angel Come Home (74-5 version)
Awake (demo)

Baby I Need Your Lovin'/Gimme Some Lovin' (1972?)
Barnyard (without fly-ins, with backing vox/animal noises)
Battle Hymn of the Republic (yes!! )
BBC Top Gear session, remaining tracks
Be My Baby
Beach Boys Medley
Beatrice from Baltimore
Big Sur 4/4
Brian's Back (early version)
Brian's Jam (1974)

Calendar Girl (1978)
California Slide
Can't Wait Too Long SS-WH two-fer version
Can't Wait Too Long/Been Way Too Long unreleased sections
Carnival
Carry Me Home (1972)
Chasin' The Sky
Child is Father of the Man (Brian edit)
Child of Winter (alternate mix)
CIFOTM (finished version with new vocals from Al, Bruce and Mike)
Come to the Sunshine
Cool Cool Water (Wild Honey session)
Country Pie (live AND the Celebration version)

Deep Purple
Do You Like Worms, Al lead vocal
Don't Let Me Go
Dr Tom
Drip Drop (Teardrops on my Bed)
Drive-In (mono)
Durrie Parks acetates (2012)

Ecology/All My Love
Everybody Wants To Live

Fire (sans fly-ins)
Full Sail

Game of Love
Getting In Over My Head
Go and Get That Girl
Go Away Boy (track)
Goin’ On vocals only
Gold Rush
Gonna Hustle You
Good Time (clean edit)
Good Timin' (74-5 version)

Hard Times
Here Comes The Night (1979 radio edit)
Here She Comes (remixed!)
Here Today (mono)
Holidays (finished version with new vocals from Al, Bruce and Mike)
How's About a little bit of your Sweet Lovin'

I Do (from the Shut Down Vol. 2 two-fer)
I Don’t Wanna Know
I Want To Pick You Up (74-5 version)
I Was Made To Love Her" stereo, with extended ending
I'll Always Love You (1979)
I'm Broke (Brian 1996 vocals)
I’m Goin’ Your Way
I’ve Got A Friend (track AND live version)
In The Back Of My Mind (1975)
In The Back Of My Mind, backing track
It's a New Day
It's Not Easy Being Me (Brian 1996 vocals)
It's Trying To Say

Jumping Jack Flash (live)
Just Got My Pay

Keepin’ the Summer Alive (alternate)
Kokomo (Spanish version)

Lady ("Landlocked" mix instead of what they included)
Lady (clean edit)
Lady Lynda
Lazy Lizzie
Life Is For The Living
Lines
Little Girl (1979)
Little Red Book (1968)
Long Promised Road
Look (finished version with new vocals from Al, Bruce and Mike)
Lookin' At Tomorrow (the live prog rock version!)
Lookin’ Down the Coast
Loop De Loop with Brian and Al's vocals
Lucy Jones (1974)

Malibu Sunset
Marilyn Rovell
Michael Row The Boat Ashore
Mony, Mony
My Diane (early version)
My Solution
New England Waltz (track)

Oh Lord (KTSA outtake)
On Broadway
Our Life, Our Love, Our Land
Out in the Country

Pacific Ocean Blue (74-5 version)

Rainbows (74-5 version)
Ride. Arabian, Ride
River Deep, Mountain High
River Song (74-5 version)
River Song live, with Blondie vocal
Rollin' Up to Heaven
Rooftop Harry (1972)
Rubles
Ruby Baby
Running Bear

Santa Ana Winds
Santa Ana Winds (early version)
Sea Cruise
Seasons In The Sun
Shake, Rattle and Roll
Sherry (instrumental)
Shortenin' Bread (early version)
Smokey Places (1979)
Somewhere Near Japan
Spark In The Dark (1972)
Steamboat
Stevie (1981)
Still Cruisin'
Still I Dream Of It (alternate mix))
Surf's Up live with strings early 70s
Surfer Suzie
Suzie Cincinnati ("Landlocked" mix instead of what they included)
Sweet & Bitter
Sweetie (1981)

Thank Him (For Our Love)
That Special Feeling
The Night Was So Young (vocals only)
Then I Kissed Her
Til I Die Stephen Desper mix
Trader pt 1 vocals only

Walkin’
We Got Love
We Gotta Groove
What Can the Matter Be?
What'd I Say
When Girls Get Together (clean edit)
Why Didn't I Tell You? (1979)
Won't You Tell Me (Brian and Carl's vocals aligned better)

You Are So Beautiful (studio or live version)
You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone (live)
You Never Give Me Your Money
You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling.
You’re Riding High on the Music

You woke a sleeping dog and I haven't repeated myself lately, which I'm prone to do... This was a no-brainer. There should've been two boxed sets. One boxed set would be comprised of all released material, including rarities, single versions, and some mono and/or stereo mixes. The other boxed set would be comprised of all unreleased material, including some live cuts as well.

The Beach Boys deserved it and the fans deserved it. Nevermind the historical value, I believe the record company would've profited over time, and not a very long time.


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: The Shift on December 02, 2013, 01:04:30 AM
Think you're right Sheriff, and the project would have reached into profit cos most of us here would have bought both despite the prereleased stuff on one of the sets. We're like that …


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: donald on December 14, 2013, 05:50:03 PM
I really need to take the time and organize and sort my archives.   I actually have a lot of what has been left off of MIC as I suspect many of you do.  Still, as a music consumer of  advancing years, I'd like to unwrap a new release of all of this material and simply put it on the record player.  Most of all, I miss going down to the record store and buying it.   Just today, on this Rainy winter day, I lamented the demise of the cozy record store I visited on many a snowy winter day as a teen.  Am I alone in my nostalgia here?


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: CenturyDeprived on January 07, 2014, 10:53:50 AM
I was going through my iTunes recently and came across a track which I'd almost forgotten exited - the Mike-sung version of Please Let Me Wonder. For as highly regarded and well known a song as it is, I'm surprised this hasn't seen release on MIC, or as a bonus track somewhere. Are the master tapes missing or something? It's pretty much the only time I can think of where Brian tried to have Mike sing a non-shared lead vocal on so sensitive a ballad (in the band's early-ish years).


Title: Re: Tracks you'd wish was on MIC
Post by: Jason on January 07, 2014, 12:39:13 PM
I don't think anyone here would want to hear Rubles, if what AGD has told us about the song is any indication of its quality...