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Title: Made In California
Post by: Jason on September 21, 2013, 08:30:29 AM
Discuss, review, and rate Made In California, released August 27, 2013.

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Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: pixletwin on September 21, 2013, 09:26:39 AM
Easy 5 from me. It has it's short comings but in the end it tells a great story.


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: alf wiedersehen on September 21, 2013, 09:57:06 AM
Easy 5 from me. It has it's short comings but in the end it tells a great story.

I agree. It may be missing some stuff we all want, but it also has a great deal of stuff we've always asked for.
I thought it was nice that, even on the greatest hits material (mostly the first disc), it still presented them in new ways, like stereo mixes.


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: bluesno1fann on September 21, 2013, 10:29:27 PM
Only one complaint for this box set.
That would be that a majority of the box set are songs already released, so you're essentially buying the same songs again.
The unreleased tracks make up for it, but there are still a lot of unreleased songs that deserve to be released. "I'm Going Your Way", "Carry Me Home", "We Got Love", "Walkin'", etc. are missing from this box set.
By far the best track off this box set is "WIBNTLA", and IMHO that's the main reason to get this box set.
4.5 out of 5.


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: Niko on September 21, 2013, 10:39:21 PM
There are 2 problems with this boxset, but they really only affect us hardcore fans.
1: The tracks we want not being there.
2: Tracks we already have.

Yeah, so I really really wanted All I Wanna Do to be in there...and I dont really need TWGMTR again.
As long as you get over that, it's a fantastic box set. All the new remasters are great, and it's been so good having all these new tracks.

Wild Honey, Country Air and Darlin' deserve a special shout out -- they sound amazing  ;D



Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: Disney Boy (1985) on September 22, 2013, 03:03:13 AM
Well, it's an amazing box-set... So many of my friends and family are going to be getting this for Xmas (whether they want it or not).

There's a few tracks where I'm unhappy with the mixes - in particular You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling (whatever they were trying to do, I wish they hadn't bothered) - but mostly it all sounds superb!

That there's still so many great unreleased tracks in the vaults I hope means we're due a rarities CD at some point in the not too distant future - why else leave off Stevie, Big Sur, etc.?

However the rarities they included are all terrific (YLTLF excluded), in particular Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again - which really is a stunning piece of work - the lovely Where Is She, and the extended Meant For You, which if I listen to one more time might result in my girlfriend throwing the CD player out of the window...

So, a few minor quibbles yes, but it's jut such a enormous, impressive collection I can't really give it anything below a 5.


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: rab2591 on September 22, 2013, 07:13:31 AM
5/5 stars.

Cannot even express how pleased I am with this boxset. The tracklisting, the rarities, the remixes - mindblowingly good. I thought the design of the set was creative and tasteful (though I'd love it if they went back to jewel cases to hold these CDs).

Standouts: Where Is She?, Be With Me (demo), Do You Wanna Dance (stereo), WIBNTLA, the extended Meant For You, unplugged 'There's No Other', the instrumental tracks on the rarities disc, stereo Wild Honey tracks. Have to praise whoever pieced these tracks together: the piano snippet at the start of 'Where Is She' is my second favorite moment on this set (WIBNTLA being first) - I'm so glad someone thought to edit that in!

As for it being a boxset with songs we already have: It was advertised as a career spanning boxset, so there's no avoiding buying these songs again given the context of the set. I think those involved with making MiC knew us fans would be shelling out money for stuff we already owned, so they were more inclined to add songs with new mixes, remastering, etc. Hearing original mono mixes of songs, a new stereo mix of Fun Fun Fun, etc is a real treat.

One thing I have to agree with people on (mentioned in other threads), is that the inclusion of the Good Vibrations session track on the rarities disc wasn't really necessary. We got an entire disc of GV on TSS, part of it in TPSS, 15 minutes of it on the GV boxset, 7 minutes of it on the GV 40th CD, 7 minutes of it on the SS/Wild Honey twofer. Not really a rarity at this point.

The one track I was hoping to God would be on here was the backing track to In The Back Of My Mind. It's one of the most beautiful compositions of the last century, imo. And it would've been great to hear a polished stereo version of it.

For all my bitching above: I can't even begin to realize how difficult the process of putting a boxset together is. All the compiling, the countless hours listening to tapes (though that may be the fun part!) the mixing, the approval from the band/record company, designing, etc. You can't please everyone - so my complaints are minor. I feel blessed knowing I was able to hear such music in my time, and that there are very talented and perceptive people putting these sets together for us.

This set is incredible and does the band a heap of justice. Thanks to everyone involved and I look forward to many more years of releases from our favorite band!


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: Marcella on September 22, 2013, 07:44:02 AM
5/5 stars

From the moment I listened to 30 second preview tracks in another country's Spotify a day or two before the offiicial US release date I was struck by the amazing sound quality of songs I have known intimately for decades. Everything old sounded new and fresh again.

Purists complain about some of the tinkering they did with existing tracks, yet those same people complain about buying tracks that they already own--you can't have it both ways. Linnett/Boyd/Wolfe have managed to make me listen to the complete 174 song collection, whereas with any other box set collection of an artist I love I would have long since created a smaller playlist of tracks new to me from the box set.

Thank you a thousand times over for making tracks like Where is She?, Sherry She Needs Me, My Love Lives On, Alternate Meant for You make it feel like the Boys are out creating new music in their "old" voices. As a straight-laced collector with no boots, MiC allowed me to hear so much new music, and for that it is a no doubt 5 star collection.


Title:
Post by: zachrwolfe on September 22, 2013, 09:42:10 AM


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: Jason on September 22, 2013, 12:07:16 PM
Well, coming off of the heels of the 2012 Greatest Hits and 50 Big Ones compilations, Made In California can't help but feel redundant, what with reprising all of the material from the aforementioned compilations, not to mention much of what was on the Good Vibrations box set. As a listen, it's certainly cohesive and entertaining despite the presence of stereo mixes as opposed to the original mono. The typical listener might not care, but those of us will bitch about it ad nauseam. The Good Vibrations box has more of a nostalgia value, since at the time there was no career retrospective like it in the case of the Beach Boys. This treads much of the same ground and therefore might not feel as revelatory.

As an excuse to sneak out what is essentially a three-disc box set of previously unreleased or unavailable material, it succeeds admirably. A minor quip on my part, but it would have been nice for this box to be a place to get all of the various minutiae from other releases available again, like the exclusive tracks from Rarities, soundtrack items, remixes, live versions and such, but, as before, that's a minor quip - they're all easy enough to find. The archival material on the box can be easily compiled into a listenable set itself. I did the same with the Good Vibrations box set, the two-fer bonus tracks, and the various minutiae, so naturally I have done the same with Made In California.

I don't think we'll see a box set of this magnitude with the Beach Boys' name on it ever again. Short of the band giving a green light to anything the compilers see fit to release in the future, this might be the last gasp for archival material. I hope I'm wrong.

5 for the music, 4.75 for the box.


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: Disney Boy (1985) on September 22, 2013, 12:24:00 PM
Outstanding boxset. The use of really badly done melodyne was a stupid decision and I can't even imagine how they could've thought it was a good idea to keep it in. I would have loved some more rarities. But all in all, it does the band a lot of justice and I love all the new stereo mixes, remasters, and most of all the rarities.

4.899934562816/5.

Melodyne? What's that?


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: rab2591 on September 22, 2013, 01:51:06 PM
Outstanding boxset. The use of really badly done melodyne was a stupid decision and I can't even imagine how they could've thought it was a good idea to keep it in. I would have loved some more rarities. But all in all, it does the band a lot of justice and I love all the new stereo mixes, remasters, and most of all the rarities.

4.899934562816/5.

Melodyne? What's that?

I believe he's talking about the program that can change pitch, notes, tempo of a song, etc.

Zach, where are you hearing this used on here?


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: Amazing Larry on September 22, 2013, 02:40:18 PM
Outstanding boxset. The use of really badly done melodyne was a stupid decision and I can't even imagine how they could've thought it was a good idea to keep it in. I would have loved some more rarities. But all in all, it does the band a lot of justice and I love all the new stereo mixes, remasters, and most of all the rarities.

4.899934562816/5.

Melodyne? What's that?

I believe he's talking about the program that can change pitch, notes, tempo of a song, etc.

Zach, where are you hearing this used on here?
As another Zach, I'll hop on this. Listen to 1:04-1:09 in Sherry She Needs Me and you'll see.
You'll all see...


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: Orange Crate Art on September 22, 2013, 02:43:58 PM
5 all the way!


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: alf wiedersehen on September 22, 2013, 02:54:38 PM
Outstanding boxset. The use of really badly done melodyne was a stupid decision and I can't even imagine how they could've thought it was a good idea to keep it in. I would have loved some more rarities. But all in all, it does the band a lot of justice and I love all the new stereo mixes, remasters, and most of all the rarities.

4.899934562816/5.

Melodyne? What's that?

I believe he's talking about the program that can change pitch, notes, tempo of a song, etc.

Zach, where are you hearing this used on here?
As another Zach, I'll hop on this. Listen to 1:04-1:09 in Sherry She Needs Me and you'll see.
You'll all see...

Do you mean the "She-eh-eh-eh-erry baby" sweeping falsetto part?


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: Disney Boy (1985) on September 22, 2013, 03:24:41 PM
Outstanding boxset. The use of really badly done melodyne was a stupid decision and I can't even imagine how they could've thought it was a good idea to keep it in. I would have loved some more rarities. But all in all, it does the band a lot of justice and I love all the new stereo mixes, remasters, and most of all the rarities.

4.899934562816/5.

Melodyne? What's that?

I believe he's talking about the program that can change pitch, notes, tempo of a song, etc.

Zach, where are you hearing this used on here?
As another Zach, I'll hop on this. Listen to 1:04-1:09 in Sherry She Needs Me and you'll see.
You'll all see...

Do you mean the "She-eh-eh-eh-erry baby" sweeping falsetto part?

Sounds good to me.


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: Amazing Larry on September 22, 2013, 04:01:50 PM
Outstanding boxset. The use of really badly done melodyne was a stupid decision and I can't even imagine how they could've thought it was a good idea to keep it in. I would have loved some more rarities. But all in all, it does the band a lot of justice and I love all the new stereo mixes, remasters, and most of all the rarities.

4.899934562816/5.

Melodyne? What's that?

I believe he's talking about the program that can change pitch, notes, tempo of a song, etc.

Zach, where are you hearing this used on here?
As another Zach, I'll hop on this. Listen to 1:04-1:09 in Sherry She Needs Me and you'll see.
You'll all see...

Do you mean the "She-eh-eh-eh-erry baby" sweeping falsetto part?
Nope. The first "Sherry, baby, it's time we said goodbye."


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: Alan Smith on September 22, 2013, 04:06:00 PM
4.

A great release, but my individual minor quibbles (perpetually rehashed items, missed opportunities in terms of the unreleased or strays, sessionography not included but available via a link, CD 3 mastering errors) matched to a big ticket price, knocks a point off the board.

I think concept and efforts of the producers, and Mike's involvement, were stellar - my  quibbles relate to EMI's shortcomings.


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: drbeachboy on September 22, 2013, 04:27:06 PM
5

Considering that this comp is career spanning, we got exactly as advertised. As many have said, I can quibble with a few missing pieces and the addition of a few things I feel unnecessary, but overall I am very happy with how it turned out. For a retail price of $150.00 it is a bit pricey, especially considering the quality control issues, it should have been perfect, but wasn't. But this about the music and for that it is damn near perfect.


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: drbeachboy on September 22, 2013, 04:31:34 PM
To the two people who each rated this set a 0 and 1, I would love to read your reasons why you voted it so low, though I do have a singular suspicion why you did.


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: alf wiedersehen on September 22, 2013, 05:53:03 PM
Outstanding boxset. The use of really badly done melodyne was a stupid decision and I can't even imagine how they could've thought it was a good idea to keep it in. I would have loved some more rarities. But all in all, it does the band a lot of justice and I love all the new stereo mixes, remasters, and most of all the rarities.

4.899934562816/5.

Melodyne? What's that?

I believe he's talking about the program that can change pitch, notes, tempo of a song, etc.

Zach, where are you hearing this used on here?
As another Zach, I'll hop on this. Listen to 1:04-1:09 in Sherry She Needs Me and you'll see.
You'll all see...

Do you mean the "She-eh-eh-eh-erry baby" sweeping falsetto part?
Nope. The first "Sherry, baby, it's time we said goodbye."

I'll be honest, I really don't hear anything.


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: rab2591 on September 22, 2013, 09:30:48 PM
Outstanding boxset. The use of really badly done melodyne was a stupid decision and I can't even imagine how they could've thought it was a good idea to keep it in. I would have loved some more rarities. But all in all, it does the band a lot of justice and I love all the new stereo mixes, remasters, and most of all the rarities.

4.899934562816/5.

Melodyne? What's that?

I believe he's talking about the program that can change pitch, notes, tempo of a song, etc.

Zach, where are you hearing this used on here?
As another Zach, I'll hop on this. Listen to 1:04-1:09 in Sherry She Needs Me and you'll see.
You'll all see...

Yeah, I definitely hear something. Funny enough, the SOT boot of the song sounds perfectly fine without the vocal correction (though it's double tracked, and the MiC version isn't) - wonder why they used it.


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: Disney Boy (1985) on September 22, 2013, 11:41:09 PM
To the two people who each rated this set a 0 and 1, I would love to read your reasons why you voted it so low, though I do have a singular suspicion why you did.

It's called being a troll. It's also called being incredibly boring and desperately seeking a reaction.


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: Amazing Larry on September 22, 2013, 11:56:43 PM
Outstanding boxset. The use of really badly done melodyne was a stupid decision and I can't even imagine how they could've thought it was a good idea to keep it in. I would have loved some more rarities. But all in all, it does the band a lot of justice and I love all the new stereo mixes, remasters, and most of all the rarities.

4.899934562816/5.

Melodyne? What's that?

I believe he's talking about the program that can change pitch, notes, tempo of a song, etc.

Zach, where are you hearing this used on here?
As another Zach, I'll hop on this. Listen to 1:04-1:09 in Sherry She Needs Me and you'll see.
You'll all see...

Do you mean the "She-eh-eh-eh-erry baby" sweeping falsetto part?
Nope. The first "Sherry, baby, it's time we said goodbye."

I'll be honest, I really don't hear anything.
If you listen closely, you'll hear some WEIRD garbling that isn't in any other version.


Title:
Post by: zachrwolfe on September 23, 2013, 12:15:37 AM


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: MBE on September 23, 2013, 11:58:42 AM
It isn't perfect, YLTLF is an atrocity, BUT it is fantastic.

I think a vinyl version would complete the experience for me, but this is a great set on any format. There are great songs and moments missed, but the whole story is there in a cogent fashion. Pretty brilliant.


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: bluesno1fann on September 23, 2013, 06:22:59 PM
What is so bad about "YLTLF"?!
I've heard both the bootleg and the MIC version. I enjoy both!
Enough with hate...


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: MBE on September 24, 2013, 11:06:06 AM
What is so bad about "YLTLF"?!
I've heard both the bootleg and the MIC version. I enjoy both!
Enough with hate...
Not that it is "bad" to hear as a piece of music. Just Brian's demo doesn't hint at that direction so it seems off somehow. Unless Brian himself did the mix for the box, it doesn't feel like his work.


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: scooby1970 on November 03, 2013, 08:15:36 AM
A full five stars from me, absolutely love everything about it. The unreleased tracks are stunning, the new mixes awesome and the entire package is gob-smacking. Love it!

:) Mark


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: Disney Boy (1985) on November 13, 2013, 11:45:40 AM
So.... any word on how it's being selling yet??


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: Lonely Summer on December 02, 2013, 10:11:28 PM
I wish the tracks on disc 6 and the live stuff on disc 5 had been integrated into the set as a whole. The book is nothing special. And what happened to the 80's Beach Boys? They should've included Where I Belong and Somewhere Near Japan, if nothing else. What really made this set for me was the Dennis stuff.


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: Mr. Wilson on January 01, 2014, 10:24:08 PM
5 /5  Another essential desert island  disc set that I cant be without,, Glorious sound  and so much to love.. Not perfect but close.. Nice to see DW well represented and the live tracks are glorious..  Why the BB sit on live shows is crazy.. LOTS of people have this stuff for sale and actually have it online to listen to or buy.. I figure the reason why is they think they need to fix the vocals.. Well Carl + Dennis are gone and ive seen some live shows on you tube were things weren't perfect and they are still there..  The core audience that wants this stuff  is dying away.. They should have started 10 years ago.. The Grateful Dead make a living off their live catalogue BB can to..


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: slippingonthrough on February 20, 2014, 11:50:46 PM
No doubting that all of this music (well except SIP live) is great. Although I had a lot of quality issues with my discs and I had to re-rip some of my tracks again. The book is great though.

I just wished these tracks were on there:
We Got Love (Studio Version)
Big Sur (Sunflower Version)
You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone (Live Version if one exists)
Aren't You Glad (Stereo version would be nice)

5/5


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: KDS on May 20, 2015, 09:34:54 AM
This one was difficult to rate.  If I'm going by music and sound, I'd give it a five. 

If I'm going by packaging, a 3.5.  The book glosses over much of the last 40 years.  The photos are nice.  The credits (maybe this was done in 2012) seem to imply that Brian, Al, and David are current members of The Beach Boys.  Plus, I would've liked more protection for the CDs.  They're very easy to scratch taking them out of the cardboard sleeves. 

Now, for the content itself.  Let me say that if you owned absolutely nothing by The Beach Boys, then this would be an essential purchase.  But, since I own, all the studio and live albums, as well as the GV and Smile Sessions box, I already have much of this collection.  With the high retail price, this smells like a cash grab to me. 

These box sets are not designed for casual fans, but for diehards.  And the labels know that diehards will gladly pay for some such sought after rarities.  Knowing that these box sets are not for the casual fan, why not remove the greatest hits / album tracks that pad the collection, and just include the rarities?   

The songs themselves are great, especially some of the rarities.  But, the fact that I needed to spend a lot of money to get another copy of Fun, Fun, Fun in my collection is a bit much. 

And to top it off, between GV and MIC, everything's still not included.  Which makes me believe that, one day, we'll have to shell out another C-note for a third box set with different rarities, padded by the greatest hits yet again. 

That's the funny thing about the music business.  The music is wonderful, but the business sucks. 


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: NateRuvin on July 28, 2015, 01:21:48 PM
As far as these extensive box sets go, this is the best BBs one I've heard.
We could go on forever and ever on which is better this or the one from '93.
I think this one is superior because it has a lot of rarities and live cuts I've always wanted to hear, and with all the stereo mixes and remasters, it sounds beautiful. I really wanted to have All I Wanna Do and Big Sur (4/4) on here, but I am definitely satisfied with this track listing.


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: drbeachboy on July 28, 2015, 01:24:42 PM
As far as these extensive box sets go, this is the best BBs one I've heard.
We could go on forever and ever on which is better this or the one from '93.
I think this one is superior because it has a lot of rarities and live cuts I've always wanted to hear, and with all the stereo mixes and remasters, it sounds beautiful. I really wanted to have All I Wanna Do and Big Sur (4/4) on here, but I am definitely satisfied with this track listing.
We felt that way back in 1993 too, especially hearing those Smile tracks. oooh, so clean. ;)


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: You Kane, You Commanded, You Conquered on May 27, 2016, 07:27:32 PM
Contains the only decent peformance of a SIP so its got that going for it.  Some of the new mixes are great (SPS, IABD), others not so much (BB, YLTLF). And goddammit where is All I Wanna Do?!


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: You Kane, You Commanded, You Conquered on May 27, 2016, 08:18:53 PM
Speaking of live tracks, Mike's stage banter in these 60's and 70's concerts is terribly cringeworthy, like he couldn't resist the chance to say something, but then realized what he said added absolutely nothing.


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: Douchepool on May 27, 2016, 08:21:28 PM
The best Mike comment ever uttered onstage was "if you're going to fight, go to Madison Square Garden and get paid for it," in response to Carl responding negatively to a fight that broke out in the crowd during a March 1972 show at St. John's University in Jamaica, NY. BEST. MIKE. COMMENT. EVER.


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: You Kane, You Commanded, You Conquered on May 27, 2016, 08:24:29 PM
The best Mike comment ever uttered onstage was "if you're going to fight, go to Madison Square Garden and get paid for it," in response to Carl responding negatively to a fight that broke out in the crowd during a March 1972 show at St. John's University in Jamaica, NY. BEST. MIKE. COMMENT. EVER.
That's actually pretty funny, congrats Mike, you get a sticker!  :wink


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: Douchepool on May 27, 2016, 08:26:10 PM
The positivity just oozes from Michael's ZZ Top beard.


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: You Kane, You Commanded, You Conquered on May 27, 2016, 08:29:34 PM
The positivity just oozes from Michael's ZZ Top beard.

Don't want to know what oozes from Bruce's stache...


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: Douchepool on May 27, 2016, 08:31:20 PM
The same ooze that permeated Going Public, probably.


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: Jay on May 27, 2016, 09:41:46 PM
The best Mike comment ever uttered onstage was "if you're going to fight, go to Madison Square Garden and get paid for it," in response to Carl responding negatively to a fight that broke out in the crowd during a March 1972 show at St. John's University in Jamaica, NY. BEST. MIKE. COMMENT. EVER.
I think Mike's best onstage moment was when he said "that joke left a bad taste in my mouth"(slightly paraphrased) after Dennis's Nixon joke. I can't remember exactly what show it was, but it was from 1973.


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on May 28, 2016, 12:21:06 AM
Outstanding boxset. The use of really badly done melodyne was a stupid decision and I can't even imagine how they could've thought it was a good idea to keep it in. I would have loved some more rarities. But all in all, it does the band a lot of justice and I love all the new stereo mixes, remasters, and most of all the rarities.

4.899934562816/5.

Melodyne? What's that?

Sorry, should of made that more clear. It's like a more versatile and more widely-used Auto-tune.

Outstanding boxset. The use of really badly done melodyne was a stupid decision and I can't even imagine how they could've thought it was a good idea to keep it in. I would have loved some more rarities. But all in all, it does the band a lot of justice and I love all the new stereo mixes, remasters, and most of all the rarities.

4.899934562816/5.

Melodyne? What's that?

I believe he's talking about the program that can change pitch, notes, tempo of a song, etc.

Zach, where are you hearing this used on here?
As another Zach, I'll hop on this. Listen to 1:04-1:09 in Sherry She Needs Me and you'll see.
You'll all see...

Yep, and on the 2nd verse, "Sherry don't" sounds robotic, "hate her" sounds garbled. As well, on the line "and maybe you wanna make friends with her some day", "wanna make" sounds robotic, and "with" seems to not fall down to as low a pitch as on the boot. I listened to the boot and the MIC version side-by-side and there is a definite difference.  There are probably other spots, too. They didn't even correct the worst pitch problems, they just messed with the sections that were fine. But honestly, after re-listening to the song on MIC, my initial post was quite exaggerated and it doesn't even bother me that much. I seem to remember it being worse than it really is.

Yes, I'm responding to a post several years old...

A compilation I made once ended up making the rounds online. One of the tracks was a mashup of the different Sherry versions. It sounded very close to the version on MIC....very, VERY close to it....right down to the part mentioned here. The exact same spot. Definitely gives me pause for thought.

If it was indeed my version, then it was Antares Auto-Tune used. I may even still have the preset saved....


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: Alan Smith on May 28, 2016, 12:42:32 AM
Outstanding boxset. The use of really badly done melodyne was a stupid decision and I can't even imagine how they could've thought it was a good idea to keep it in. I would have loved some more rarities. But all in all, it does the band a lot of justice and I love all the new stereo mixes, remasters, and most of all the rarities.

4.899934562816/5.

Melodyne? What's that?

Sorry, should of made that more clear. It's like a more versatile and more widely-used Auto-tune.

Outstanding boxset. The use of really badly done melodyne was a stupid decision and I can't even imagine how they could've thought it was a good idea to keep it in. I would have loved some more rarities. But all in all, it does the band a lot of justice and I love all the new stereo mixes, remasters, and most of all the rarities.

4.899934562816/5.

Melodyne? What's that?

I believe he's talking about the program that can change pitch, notes, tempo of a song, etc.

Zach, where are you hearing this used on here?
As another Zach, I'll hop on this. Listen to 1:04-1:09 in Sherry She Needs Me and you'll see.
You'll all see...

Yep, and on the 2nd verse, "Sherry don't" sounds robotic, "hate her" sounds garbled. As well, on the line "and maybe you wanna make friends with her some day", "wanna make" sounds robotic, and "with" seems to not fall down to as low a pitch as on the boot. I listened to the boot and the MIC version side-by-side and there is a definite difference.  There are probably other spots, too. They didn't even correct the worst pitch problems, they just messed with the sections that were fine. But honestly, after re-listening to the song on MIC, my initial post was quite exaggerated and it doesn't even bother me that much. I seem to remember it being worse than it really is.

Yes, I'm responding to a post several years old...

A compilation I made once ended up making the rounds online. One of the tracks was a mashup of the different Sherry versions. It sounded very close to the version on MIC....very, VERY close to it....right down to the part mentioned here. The exact same spot. Definitely gives me pause for thought.

If it was indeed my version, then it was Antares Auto-Tune used. I may even still have the preset saved....

 :-D That's a great story, Billy!  Resonates even more as I recall (and if I'm wrong, let me know) a few people chipped in get you a copy of MIC given the funds weren't too cool for you at the time.  Not sure who those kind souls were, but interesting that something you put there may have been returned!


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on May 28, 2016, 01:20:20 AM
Yes...that meant and continues to mean so much to me.  And yeah, when I was listening, I did a doubletake!

To me, by far the best compilation on the market. Only real complaints were some of the aforementioned  remixes, especially Sail Plane Song and the live Wild Honey, and the inclusion of Why Don't they let us fall in love and Da Doo Ron Ron. But the sheer amount of rarities, including stuff I had no idea existed, just makes it an absolute treasure.


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: Jay on May 28, 2016, 01:37:38 AM
That version of "Why Don't They Let Us Fall In Love" is so off key and/or out of tune(and shouty af), it makes me wonder how they could have let it slip out.


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on May 28, 2016, 02:24:23 AM
I actually really dig Rock and Roll Music, as it is on MiC.


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: Douchepool on May 28, 2016, 06:24:44 AM
It's good that the extra verse finally got a release.


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: Smilin Ed H on May 28, 2016, 09:55:41 AM
Great box, though I guess I would think even more of it if I didn't already own the previous box and everything else. My gripes are no doubt the same as many others: no Carry Me Home, no Big Sur, No We Got Love etc etc


Title: Re: Made In California
Post by: Gosh Darn Highway on August 19, 2020, 03:04:24 PM
New member here, first post (hello!), with a question I've had basically since the MIC set came out. With a lot of the hype for this box set being about including a few (and even about not including other) Dennis tracks, was there any consideration to giving space to any of Mike's, Carl's, or Bruce's solo stuff? I'm not sure how easily that would work with Bruce's and Carl's, since their recordings are from other record labels, but as much as I agree that Dennis's solo material is largely preferred to that of the other guys, I wonder if there was even any discussion from the guys to include some of their stuff (previously released or no) on the set as well?  Additionally, I wonder how (or if) any of that kind of tracklist negotiations may play into the Feel Flows set debacle--though I'm not aware of any of the other members having any solo stuff of note from that period to consider.