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Title: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 03, 2013, 02:07:36 PM
Sure. It should be in the media section but look what just appeared on youtube. The QVC concert we got the audio for last year.

Parts 1 and 2 now up. More to come I hope.

Enjoy! :thumbsup


Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDZeEEQ6Loo

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7VZLDrPTuk


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Freddie French-Pounce on September 03, 2013, 02:12:28 PM
Shame about the audio sync - but this is awesome!

And the guy has an alternate Smart Girls...


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on September 03, 2013, 02:19:46 PM
I didn't even think this existed!  How come this wasn't the DVD release instead of the Phoenix show?  This is friggin amazing!


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Justin on September 03, 2013, 02:21:39 PM
Ah finally!! 


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 03, 2013, 02:25:37 PM
I didn't even think this existed!  How come this wasn't the DVD release instead of the Phoenix show?  This is friggin amazing!

We know it was a Japanese broadcast last year but nothing else. On first viewing yes, THIS should have been the release.

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,14608.0.html


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Justin on September 03, 2013, 02:28:49 PM
Coincidentally, I popped in the Phoenix DVD last night.  Some good moments but cringed at the very sterile mix.  Mike's vocal overdub didn't help matters either.  The Chiba show may be the run of the mill greatest hits show but at least it has a PULSE and looks/feels like the show I attended on that great tour. 


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: jeffcdo on September 03, 2013, 02:31:35 PM
This...is awesome.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on September 03, 2013, 02:33:46 PM
Damn, this is so much better than what we got on DVD last year. Thanks for posting!


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: pixletwin on September 03, 2013, 02:41:39 PM
Love it. Fingers crossed that the rest of the concert is uploaded.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on September 03, 2013, 03:29:44 PM
Thanks for the link, Pretty Funky! Now THAT'S the way I remember the C50 songs live. :-D


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on September 03, 2013, 03:31:11 PM
now this is just Magic stuff!  great mix, the guys are in great form...... the best version of 'don't worry baby' from Jeff I've heard too....

RickB


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Zander on September 03, 2013, 04:54:02 PM
Has this been removed? Can't seem to get it and I haven't seen it :(


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Justin on September 03, 2013, 04:54:44 PM
Sadly, yes, been removed.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Zander on September 03, 2013, 05:20:07 PM
Has anybody downloaded it from YouTube?


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: chrs_mrgn on September 03, 2013, 05:34:13 PM
Boo! Really wanted to see this.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: leggo of my ego on September 03, 2013, 05:36:38 PM
Sadly, yes, been removed.

Well, that didnt last long. pooh.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 03, 2013, 07:58:13 PM
And the powers that be wonder why we go for alternative sources. :p


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Rocker on September 04, 2013, 08:25:51 AM
If someone has saved this, please PM me. Would love to see it


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Freddie French-Pounce on September 04, 2013, 10:02:13 AM
Messaged the guy seeing if we can get the video... some other way


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: STE on September 04, 2013, 10:06:58 AM


Damn, I missed it too!



Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Ram4 on September 04, 2013, 10:10:13 AM
If it was a TV broadcast, it should be allowed to be on YouTube.  At least that's how I understand radio and TV broadcasts.  I'm sure it will turn up.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: chrs_mrgn on September 04, 2013, 11:24:35 AM
It's is by far the best performance of the C50 IMO.
Had never heard it and really glad I did.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on September 04, 2013, 11:29:32 AM
It says it was taken down by the user. Maybe a copyright notice popped up and he opted to remove the videos instead of "acknowledging the copyright claim" - which would have allowed him to keep the videos up, just with ads.

Either way I hope it pops up again. I was thinking about grabbing it too, to fix the audio sync...


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 04, 2013, 01:23:04 PM
Perhaps someone who knows the legal side of youtube requirements could contact the guy. Was really looking forward to seeing the rest of the video.

BTW. It would seem there are no smileysmilers from Japan judging by how little info we got about this TV show last year.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on September 05, 2013, 12:13:25 AM
I tried to do some digging and unfortunately I couldn't find the video but I did find this page which at least clears up where the video came from.  I almost got excited that I'd found a stream of the concert but it doesn't seem to be there.  http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv103144596

I'm surprised it hasn't widely circulated.  I'd really love to see the whole thing.  Even before the YouTube videos were quickly taken down, there were only small portions of the concert uploaded.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: STE on September 05, 2013, 02:05:23 AM

Man, how good was that tour?!?!

Now, is it so diffult to make a DVD similiar to this but for the whole tour?
A bit of travelling/pre-show footage, a few songs, a little post-show/backstage/travelling footage, more songs. Repeat.
Dynamic editing, very little audience shots, no autotune bullshit and you've got yourself and awesome product.
Damn it, I'd do it for free!





Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: SonoraDick on September 05, 2013, 09:57:01 PM
It's back...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xHcEjoElYZ4#t=58


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on September 05, 2013, 10:02:50 PM
It's back...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xHcEjoElYZ4#t=58

YES.  (But saving this to my computer just in case  ;))


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: 18thofMay on September 05, 2013, 10:18:32 PM
What programs are available to save this?


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: SonoraDick on September 05, 2013, 10:52:34 PM
Wow. I had forgotten how touching... how emotional... the tributes to Dennis & Carl were. Some nice shots of Brian during both.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: PS on September 05, 2013, 11:38:25 PM
It's back...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xHcEjoElYZ4#t=58

Blows the USA Amateur Hour DVD to smithereens....THIS IS WHAT I REMEMBER~!


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: metal flake paint on September 05, 2013, 11:42:31 PM
Thanks, good catch!


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: SonoraDick on September 05, 2013, 11:43:20 PM
What programs are available to save this?

I used (for the first time) Clip Converter, and it worked fine.   http://www.clipconverter.cc/

Always used to use RealPlayer, but the YouTube downloader was hit or miss & finally gave up completely. Reinstalled once & it quit again, so I gave up. I'll bet others will have other suggestions.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Justin on September 05, 2013, 11:52:24 PM
Thanks for posting!!
Brian's vocal is odd in some places..


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Justin on September 05, 2013, 11:59:53 PM
And "Cottonfields" is spectacular.  Brian sitting there rocking out.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: zane7570 on September 06, 2013, 12:07:33 AM
Thank you, SonoraDick, for sharing the link!

I used http://keepvid.com/ to capture the video, but there may be better programs.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: SonicVolcano on September 06, 2013, 12:21:40 AM
Wow. So much energy and the mix is great.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Freddie French-Pounce on September 06, 2013, 01:01:30 AM
Wooo, told you i asked him, at my request that upload was ;)


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: metal flake paint on September 06, 2013, 01:28:19 AM
Wooo, told you i asked him, at my request that upload was ;)

Good work!


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Freddie French-Pounce on September 06, 2013, 01:32:16 AM
Ah, Al messed up the lyrics on Cotton Fields too. So add that to the great mistake on Then i Kissed Her and minor one on WIBN at Wembley. EDIT: AND he messes up WIBN here too!

This is still great, but there's the odd ADT on Brians voice, and while there is obviously Albums tracks on TWGMTR and IIT, the bridge of IIT is hilariously messy xD

WEEEEEEEEE come on the Sloop John B. ;)


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 06, 2013, 03:37:43 AM
Wooo, told you i asked him, at my request that upload was ;)

Good work!

Different name this time but who cares? Also one clip rather than parts as was the case a few days ago.. Sweet!

Thanks for the save sites. Hopefully will work for me.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on September 06, 2013, 07:05:21 AM
Thanks for posting!!
Brian's vocal is odd in some places..

While its great to finally have a pro video recording of a full show without too much audio tinkering, I have to say this does not look like it was Brian's best night.  He's not singing a lot of backing vocals and he stays seated at his keyboard the entire show, not even getting up to play bass on the encore.  He just seems out of it.  Perhaps that's also why this concert hasn't been shown outside of Japan.  Nevertheless, this is great to see for so many reasons.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: the professor on September 06, 2013, 08:47:35 AM
The entire production, including interviews and backstage prep, etc. are excellent. So far, this blows the DVD we have (which I like) out of the water. What makes me think JT had nothing to do with this? WOW.

The energy is incredible: better, I have to say than Hollywood Bowl and Irvine and Santa Barbara.. . .something special here. Dave and Scott sound great; Jeff is restrained and tasteful; Mike is a confident master; Bruce king of the high harmonies; Al solid and spunky; Brian mellow but there for every note.  I would buy this today, and I hope it becomes available; I am trying to capture it, but I always screw those downloads up. . .hoping.

The Professor


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: STE on September 06, 2013, 09:31:30 AM


Joe Thomas: Mix Producer





Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Wirestone on September 06, 2013, 09:33:33 AM

Joe Thomas: Mix Producer


And the plot, she thickens. Perhaps the autotune on the C50 release wasn't Joe's call after all ...


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Mr. Wilson on September 06, 2013, 11:02:51 AM
I sure would like my own copy of this show. I don't have the skills on a computer.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: HeyJude on September 06, 2013, 11:53:30 AM
This pro-shot footage is indeed awesome. I wish they could post it to YouTube in HD (or Youtube’s equivalent of HD anyway), as the picture quality is still a bit sketchy once you start blowing it up past 5 or 10 inches. If we could get even a 480p-caliber copy of this, it would be far and away the best video document of the tour so far.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: pixletwin on September 06, 2013, 11:55:11 AM
This pro-shot footage is indeed awesome. I wish they could post it to YouTube in HD (or Youtube’s equivalent of HD anyway), as the picture quality is still a bit sketchy once you start blowing it up past 5 or 10 inches. If we could get even a 480p-caliber copy of this, it would be far and away the best video document of the tour so far.

This. 720 or 1080 dpi please.  :)


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: HeyJude on September 06, 2013, 12:00:53 PM

Joe Thomas: Mix Producer


And the plot, she thickens. Perhaps the autotune on the C50 release wasn't Joe's call after all ...

Concert broadcasts in Japan seem to be kind of like the cases of the Hollywood celebrities that never do TV commercials in the US, but do them in Japan. Despite how everything shows up everywhere now due to the internet, etc., it seems like sometimes it is seen as a more lowkey situation with less of a spotlight.

I would guess they didn’t fudge as much with this Japan footage because it was simply going to air once on TV, and only there. There are a bunch of artists who have had Japan-exclusive concert specials and whatnot. Even the Beach Boys’ 1991 Japan tour was shot and aired on TV, and I believe maybe even released on Laserdisc and/or VHS over there.

It frustrates me to no end that the Beach Boys (and Brian on his solo shows; and McCartney, etc.) will not just shoot a damn single concert from beginning to end, and stick the whole damn thing on a DVD/Blu-ray, etc. Even sweeten it if you must, but just give us all the songs. Yes, I know publishing costs for video sync rights are expensive, but it can be done with a project as massive as C50. Big deluxe “The Complete 50th Anniversary Tour” Blu-ray boxed set could recoup the publishing costs in the long run.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Dave Modny on September 06, 2013, 01:46:57 PM

Joe Thomas: Mix Producer


And the plot, she thickens. Perhaps the autotune on the C50 release wasn't Joe's call after all ...

Concert broadcasts in Japan seem to be kind of like the cases of the Hollywood celebrities that never do TV commercials in the US, but do them in Japan. Despite how everything shows up everywhere now due to the internet, etc., it seems like sometimes it is seen as a more lowkey situation with less of a spotlight.

I would guess they didn’t fudge as much with this Japan footage because it was simply going to air once on TV, and only there. There are a bunch of artists who have had Japan-exclusive concert specials and whatnot. Even the Beach Boys’ 1991 Japan tour was shot and aired on TV, and I believe maybe even released on Laserdisc and/or VHS over there.




Yep. I can think of countless classic rock acts that have done the "concerts for Japanese TV" thing. Some of those performances have circulated over the years and are truly wonderful. Often surpassing "official" domestic product.

As far as the Joe Thomas-less autotune thing here. I wouldn't read too much into it all. There's still some post-production and fixes that occurred here (discussed in other threads), and any lack of a complete overhaul is probably simply due to the fact that he/they only had so much time to get this thing up and running...probably luckily for us. Several of the tracks from this performance made it to the live CD (e.g. WDFFIL, Then I Kissed Her, When I Grow Up To Be A Man, etc.) but like others, I actually prefer most of the mixes here. Less sterile. More alive.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 06, 2013, 02:28:22 PM
I sure would like my own copy of this show. I don't have the skills on a computer.

I don't either but I used the keepvid programme mentioned above and had it done in minutes.

If you can manage to post here, you can get it to work.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Justin on September 06, 2013, 02:42:37 PM
There are moments in H&V where we hear Brian but we clearly see he is not singing.  And a lot of the lead vocals seemed double tracked.  Didn't this broadcast live?


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Nicko1234 on September 06, 2013, 02:52:24 PM
There are moments in H&V where we hear Brian but we clearly see he is not singing.  And a lot of the lead vocals seemed double tracked.  Didn't this broadcast live?

This is indeed rather amusing.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 06, 2013, 02:55:08 PM
Unlikely it was broadcast live but can't say for sure.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: pixletwin on September 06, 2013, 03:00:21 PM
The most noticeable places were the vocals are double tracked are Heroes and Villains, TWGMTR, Isn't it Time, and Wouldn't It Be Nice.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Nicko1234 on September 06, 2013, 03:00:47 PM
It was broadcast on September 23rd I believe.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Dave Modny on September 06, 2013, 03:01:43 PM
Unlikely it was broadcast live but can't say for sure.

Scott Totten stated that no way, no how did the band use any kind of pre-recorded parts on stage, yet, IIT, for example, has the studio vocals flown-in in places for this airing (the studio single a capella  intro as well). So, it couldn't have been live. There's a few other moments as well ...Brian's aforementioned lead on H&V for one.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 06, 2013, 03:11:17 PM
Unlikely it was broadcast live but can't say for sure.

Scott Totten stated that no way, no how did the band use any kind of pre-recorded parts on stage, yet, IIT, for example, has the studio vocals flown-in in places for this airing (the studio single a capella  intro as well). So, it couldn't have been live. There's a few other moments as well ...Brian's aforementioned lead on H&V for one.

Yes but live on stage and a live (yet delayed broadcast) TV concert a two different beasts.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Justin on September 06, 2013, 03:16:05 PM
It was broadcast on September 23rd I believe.

Ok I thought it was broadcast live as the show was happening and these effects were done on the spot.  If it didn't air till about a full month later, it's very clear now they did some cleaning up in a lot of places for the vocals. 


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Dave Modny on September 06, 2013, 04:18:49 PM
Unlikely it was broadcast live but can't say for sure.

Scott Totten stated that no way, no how did the band use any kind of pre-recorded parts on stage, yet, IIT, for example, has the studio vocals flown-in in places for this airing (the studio single a capella  intro as well). So, it couldn't have been live. There's a few other moments as well ...Brian's aforementioned lead on H&V for one.

Yes but live on stage and a live (yet delayed broadcast) TV concert a two different beasts.


I'm not catching your drift here. Or...maybe we're simply misunderstanding one another. :)


There was post-production work done to the concert, so my point is simply that it wasn't broadcast live, as-it-happened.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 06, 2013, 04:47:55 PM
Unlikely it was broadcast live but can't say for sure.

Scott Totten stated that no way, no how did the band use any kind of pre-recorded parts on stage, yet, IIT, for example, has the studio vocals flown-in in places for this airing (the studio single a capella  intro as well). So, it couldn't have been live. There's a few other moments as well ...Brian's aforementioned lead on H&V for one.

Yes but live on stage and a live (yet delayed broadcast) TV concert a two different beasts.


I'm not catching your drift here. Or...maybe we're simply misunderstanding one another. :)


There was post-production work done to the concert, so my point is simply that it wasn't broadcast live, as-it-happened.

Yeah crossed wires somewhere. I'm saying Scott is right with his no pre-recorded vocals on stage, as is, on the night at the concert. Yet sometime between Aug 16 and the broadcast on the 23rd, flown in leads/ vocals were added.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: HeyJude on September 06, 2013, 06:23:58 PM
Unlikely it was broadcast live but can't say for sure.

Scott Totten stated that no way, no how did the band use any kind of pre-recorded parts on stage, yet, IIT, for example, has the studio vocals flown-in in places for this airing (the studio single a capella  intro as well). So, it couldn't have been live. There's a few other moments as well ...Brian's aforementioned lead on H&V for one.

Yes but live on stage and a live (yet delayed broadcast) TV concert a two different beasts.


I'm not catching your drift here. Or...maybe we're simply misunderstanding one another. :)


There was post-production work done to the concert, so my point is simply that it wasn't broadcast live, as-it-happened.

Yeah crossed wires somewhere. I'm saying Scott is right with his no pre-recorded vocals on stage, as is, on the night at the concert. Yet sometime between Aug 16 and the broadcast on the 23rd, flown in leads/ vocals were added.

I'd have to research on YouTube (if a clip of the song is available) to reacquaint myself to know for 100% sure, but I saw the tour stop on June 1st in Berkeley, CA. At that stage, "Isn't It Time" had been added not too long prior, and I recall hearing elements of the studio recording in the house mix.

I didn't hear much of anything else like that on any other song as far as studio backing (other than Dennis' and Carl's leads of course), and no autotune was present, but it sounded like there were at least "stems" or individual elements of the studio recording being used as a backing/basis for the live performance of that one single song, "Isn't It Time."

There are other "field recordings" I've heard from the tour where a similar effect can be heard. I don't think they just cued up the CD copy of "Isn't It Time" and played and sang along to it; it sounded like they were using individual tracks or stems of the studio recording to beef the song up.  

Pretty much every recording from the actual concert tour that I've heard of the two tracks off the new album, from audience recordings on up to the official DVD/Blu-ray releases and the CD, have sounded like those two songs are always fudged with somehow. They always sound kind of murky with elements of the studio recording bleeding in and out of the recording.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Doo Dah on September 06, 2013, 06:25:42 PM
Mozilla has an app entitled 'download helper', so that may help if you use Firefox.

Always enjoyed the MP3 of the show, so this video really brings it all home. Thanks much for the link.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Dave Modny on September 06, 2013, 07:24:48 PM
Unlikely it was broadcast live but can't say for sure.

Scott Totten stated that no way, no how did the band use any kind of pre-recorded parts on stage, yet, IIT, for example, has the studio vocals flown-in in places for this airing (the studio single a capella  intro as well). So, it couldn't have been live. There's a few other moments as well ...Brian's aforementioned lead on H&V for one.

Yes but live on stage and a live (yet delayed broadcast) TV concert a two different beasts.


I'm not catching your drift here. Or...maybe we're simply misunderstanding one another. :)


There was post-production work done to the concert, so my point is simply that it wasn't broadcast live, as-it-happened.

Yeah crossed wires somewhere. I'm saying Scott is right with his no pre-recorded vocals on stage, as is, on the night at the concert. Yet sometime between Aug 16 and the broadcast on the 23rd, flown in leads/ vocals were added.

I'd have to research on YouTube (if a clip of the song is available) to reacquaint myself to know for 100% sure, but I saw the tour stop on June 1st in Berkeley, CA. At that stage, "Isn't It Time" had been added not too long prior, and I recall hearing elements of the studio recording in the house mix.

I didn't hear much of anything else like that on any other song as far as studio backing (other than Dennis' and Carl's leads of course), and no autotune was present, but it sounded like there were at least "stems" or individual elements of the studio recording being used as a backing/basis for the live performance of that one single song, "Isn't It Time."

There are other "field recordings" I've heard from the tour where a similar effect can be heard. I don't think they just cued up the CD copy of "Isn't It Time" and played and sang along to it; it sounded like they were using individual tracks or stems of the studio recording to beef the song up.  

Pretty much every recording from the actual concert tour that I've heard of the two tracks off the new album, from audience recordings on up to the official DVD/Blu-ray releases and the CD, have sounded like those two songs are always fudged with somehow. They always sound kind of murky with elements of the studio recording bleeding in and out of the recording.



I suppose that could indeed be true, despite what Scott said, in that it's pretty common for bands to often include, at the very least, pre-recorded rhythm pads, percussion bits, keyboard "washes" and such from time-to-time. Even sequenced backing vocals at time to help thicken things up a bit. Don't know for sure if that's the case here, in that the "as-it-happened" Mermaid version sounds pretty real to my humble ears, as well as some of the live TV versions being pretty shambolic, but...

Though, I still think in the case of this concert broadcast, there's enough evidence that post-production work was done. Some of Brian's lead vocal work being a prime example (e.g. H&V, the double-tracked vocals...and probably studio version-embellished bridge of DIA, etc.), and perhaps more importantly, the fact the "IIT" has that a capella, multi-tracked Brian studio intro thing tagged on -- when I never heard that being sequenced/"faked" on any of the audience recordings I have (over the dark, nothing-actually-happening onstage, wide shot to boot). 

As I also mentioned in another thread, and even though they obviously remixed the respective Chiba tracks that ended up on the 2-CD set, in the case of "Then I Kissed Her" there's a backing vocal bit that appears right before the bridge that wasn't on *any* of the tour audience recordings I heard. So, either they did that in the studio, or they skillfully flew that (repetitive) vocal figure in from somewhere else. Sweetening far beyond just tuning and such, that is!

On a related note, I've also said before that it's the mixing of the 2-CD set that bugs me as much, if not more than any of the processing and fixes. Jeff's falsetto is mixed up way-too-much and naked at times for my tastes (e.g. compare the same performances of TLGIOK-Dallas from the NPR broadcast and Marcella-Phoenix from the tour DVD, respectively. Night and day mixing for identical performances.). That, and that whole sterility thing again.

 (IMHO of course).  :)


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Scott on September 07, 2013, 12:19:07 AM
My last post here said that we did not use any pre-recorded background vocals during the tour.  We did use the footstomps and hand claps from Isn't It Time but played and sang live to it. 

I have not seen the Chiba footage.

Scott


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on September 07, 2013, 12:25:41 AM
My last post here said that we did not use any pre-recorded background vocals during the tour.  We did use the footstomps and hand claps from Isn't It Time but played and sang live to it. 

I have not seen the Chiba footage.

Scott

You should check it out, you're actually featured quite prominently in it, moreso than on the officially released DVDs.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: TommyPlural on September 09, 2013, 08:31:29 PM
Ah, it's set to private now. Anyone here contact the poster to get the address?

Also, Scott is, and has been since my first BB show in 2004, my favorite part of the touring band. Kudos, sir.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 09, 2013, 09:13:52 PM
Thank you, SonoraDick, for sharing the link!

I used http://keepvid.com/ to capture the video, but there may be better programs.

Thank you zane7570. Your suggestion has come in mighty useful. Especially now the clip has gone private.


Title: Re: Live At QVC Marine Field Chiba....Video
Post by: zane7570 on September 10, 2013, 07:38:47 AM
You're welcome!