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Title: "Wild Honey (New Jersey 1972)" from MIC previewed on Yahoo Music Post by: bonnevillemariner on August 19, 2013, 08:37:42 AM Exclusive! Go Back to 1972 With The Beach Boys!
http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/stop-the-presses/exclusive-back-1972-beach-boys-143558454.html I actually can't get the video to load. Anybody else have any luck? Title: Re: \ Post by: Marcella on August 19, 2013, 08:40:47 AM Blondie's lead certainly adds something that Carl's does not. Sounds great. This plus the Help me Rhonda leak seem to indicate that those disk 5 live tracks will all have great sound quality!
Title: Re: Post by: drbeachboy on August 19, 2013, 08:46:48 AM Very cool! Brings back memories of the 1972 Philly show at the Spectrum. Saw 7 of the 8 Beach Boys from that period. Also, Mike was dressed as a carnival barker. Strawhat, Red & white striped jacket and cane. As corny as it might sound, it was really cool to see. They blew the audience away that night. Great show!
Title: Re: \ Post by: MBE on August 19, 2013, 08:48:17 AM I think I hear Toni in there.
Title: Re: \ Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on August 19, 2013, 08:49:48 AM This plus the Help me Rhonda leak seem to indicate that those disk 5 live tracks will all have great sound quality! Sound quality is good, but also they are exciting performances, quite different form the album cuts. The live tracks are usually a low priority for me, but judging by these two tracks I won't be skipping the live stuff. Title: Re: \ Post by: alf wiedersehen on August 19, 2013, 08:53:23 AM This is a great version. I love Blondie's solos, but they seemed to downplay the weird, beeping synth-sound that happens throughout the song. The sound quality is great, too. We may not be getting samples, but at least we're getting a few, full songs.
Title: Re: Post by: drbeachboy on August 19, 2013, 08:54:53 AM This plus the Help me Rhonda leak seem to indicate that those disk 5 live tracks will all have great sound quality! Sound quality is good, but also they are exciting performances, quite different form the album cuts. The live tracks are usually a low priority for me, but judging by these two tracks I won't be skipping the live stuff. Title: Re: \ Post by: hypehat on August 19, 2013, 08:56:00 AM OH MY GOD is this amazing. Ridiculous performance! Such energy!
Title: Re: \ Post by: Shady on August 19, 2013, 09:04:57 AM My mind has just been blown
Title: Re: \ Post by: Cabinessenceking on August 19, 2013, 09:16:55 AM How could they let go of this guy????? Blondie and Ricky were perfect for the Beach Boys and giving them a greater hand could've resulted in more Holland-style material. A huge loss for the group.
What a fantastic performance. Part of what makes the early 70's a great live era for the group is that they abandoned trying to replicate the studio productions live and remade much of their material in a contemporary jam format which really serves many of the songs justice. One could argue that this is outdated per today, but back then it must've clearly rocked! We need more from this period! An extended live release from this era in particular is warrented! Title: Re: \ Post by: Mikie on August 19, 2013, 09:27:09 AM I was just thinking the same thing after I heard this. How could they let him go. Blondie sang that with a whole lotta soul. Guitars and drums sound great too, and I think I heard Carl singing in the mix there. Just a great rendition.
If you played that for somebody without telling them who it was, even if they knew the song, they wouldn't know it was The Beach Boys. My favorite era as a fan, hands down. Who said the Beach Boys weren't hip? Title: Re: \ Post by: bgas on August 19, 2013, 09:27:37 AM Can I admit this here?
That was cool to hear a finished( mixed?) version. But having been pushed( you know who you are) I had to go back and compare it to the version on my single In Concert acetate. the acetate has a rawer sound,imo. (probably because it wasn't fixed in the control room? ) all in all, I agree with my friend, and like the acetate better. What says them that's heard both? ( don't be shy) Title: Re: \ Post by: Nicko1234 on August 19, 2013, 09:31:14 AM This is a really nice performance and recording.
For purely selfish reasons, as I won't be buying the box set in the near future, it is also nice to be able to hear these unreleased songs legally on the net. Well done Capitol. :) Title: Re: \ Post by: bonnevillemariner on August 19, 2013, 09:32:24 AM Finally got the video to play. Great sound and performance, but it seems way too rushed to me. Sounds like Blondie's having a hard time keeping up vocally with the tempo.
Title: Re: \ Post by: pixletwin on August 19, 2013, 09:41:00 AM Can I admit this here? That was cool to hear a finished( mixed?) version. But having been pushed( you know who you are) I had to go back and compare it to the version on my single In Concert test press. the test has a rawer sound,imo. (probably because it wasn't fixed in the control room? ) all in all, I agree with my friend, and like the test better. What says them that's heard both? ( don't be shy) I agree... aside from the obvious quality improvement, this official release sounds somehow more hollow.. does that make sense? Title: Re: Post by: drbeachboy on August 19, 2013, 09:41:48 AM Finally got the video to play. Great sound and performance, but it seems way too rushed to me. Sounds like Blondie's having a hard time keeping up vocally with the tempo. I think I've heard it done faster, though it could have been the recording speed as much as the actual tempo.Title: Re: \ Post by: Mikie on August 19, 2013, 09:43:47 AM Bgas, I knew I heard this before! I'm listening to a 2-part file called Beach Boys NY 72 with Jack Rieley introducing the band. That version REALLY cooks! I can't find the outtake from "In Concert" now!! That ain't the same one I don't think.
Sans the echo and the vocals pushed forward in the mix, yeah the Moffitt mix is obviously going to be more raw. This one has obviously been cleaned up alot! I mean a lot! Edit: OK, Bgas, just found the WH file from the "In Concert" acetate. Is this the same one as this one coming out? It skips and there's a buncha hiss! The guitars on this kick some major ass! But you're right - it's a lot more raw and sounds like the rest of Moffitt's mixes. Title: Re: \ Post by: Michael Edwards Love on August 19, 2013, 10:10:03 AM Exclusive! Go Back to 1972 With The Beach Boys! http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/stop-the-presses/exclusive-back-1972-beach-boys-143558454.html I actually can't get the video to load. Anybody else have any luck? It wouldn't open for me in Chrome but did open in Internet Explorer. Maybe try a different browser? EDIT: I see that you got it, but maybe this will help anyone else having trouble. Title: Re: \ Post by: Dancing Bear on August 19, 2013, 11:05:58 AM This is fucking great. That saif, is it just me or is there some heavy treatment on Blondie's vocals?
Title: Re: \ Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on August 19, 2013, 11:10:06 AM Killer track! After hearing Dennis sing Rhonda, dang, we are getting some real gold here!
Title: Re: \ Post by: Emdeeh on August 19, 2013, 11:15:41 AM A big thumbs up from this WH fan.
:listening It plays just fine in Safari. Title: Re: \ Post by: Kurosawa on August 19, 2013, 11:22:29 AM This is just sick, sick. Wow, the band was just hot as hell at that time. Amazing.
Title: Re: \ Post by: humanoidboogie on August 19, 2013, 11:28:16 AM Sounds great, but it seems to be entirely in mono (or very, very, very narrow stereo). :o
Title: Re: \ Post by: MBE on August 19, 2013, 11:46:13 AM Is it just me or do these two tracks beat anything they issued on the 1973 concert LP?
Title: Re: \ Post by: Mikie on August 19, 2013, 11:58:33 AM It's just you.
That's it. After MIC comes out, I'm gonna petition for a live box from the different stages of their career. If they don't go for that, request that an early 70's release - specifically '71 - '75. There's obviously some good live stuff in the can that we haven't heard before, and stuff of very good quality on bootlegs that should see the light of day. Title: Re: \ Post by: phirnis on August 19, 2013, 12:13:12 PM In general, I prefer piano-driven over guitar-driven and I feel they sacrificed a lot of the original version's quirky qualities in this case. It doesn't sound very Brian at all, it lacks the warm sense of humor that the WH album is all about. A different approach and I have to say I still absolutely love it for what it is. Fabulous stuff and an all-around magnificent performance.
Title: Re: \ Post by: DonnyL on August 19, 2013, 12:17:35 PM Can I admit this here? That was cool to hear a finished( mixed?) version. But having been pushed( you know who you are) I had to go back and compare it to the version on my single In Concert acetate. the acetate has a rawer sound,imo. (probably because it wasn't fixed in the control room? ) all in all, I agree with my friend, and like the acetate better. What says them that's heard both? ( don't be shy) yeh i like the acetate version better simply because the (out of tune ... played by Mike?) electro-theremin thing is mixed up much louder! and yeh, digital mixes have a certain clarity that can sound like ear candy at first but I think traditional 1/4" 2-track mixes hold up better over time. Title: Re: \ Post by: Rocker on August 19, 2013, 12:18:19 PM It doesn't sound very Brian at all I see what you mean. I guess this here is Carl's version. Love it! Strange reverb though. I hope the guys know that after HPM and WH we all want a new early 70s concert CD ;D Title: Re: \ Post by: Mr. Cohen on August 19, 2013, 12:23:12 PM WIIILLDDD HONEYYY
Title: Re: \ Post by: DonnyL on August 19, 2013, 12:26:56 PM Is it just me or do these two tracks beat anything they issued on the 1973 concert LP? I agree Title: Re: \ Post by: filledeplage on August 19, 2013, 12:27:15 PM Can I admit this here? That was cool to hear a finished( mixed?) version. But having been pushed( you know who you are) I had to go back and compare it to the version on my single In Concert acetate. the acetate has a rawer sound,imo. (probably because it wasn't fixed in the control room? ) all in all, I agree with my friend, and like the acetate better. What says them that's heard both? ( don't be shy) Yup! Played on a Victrola! :lol Awesome! I love it! I had never heard an acetate! Guilty as charged! ;) It does have a very cool edge to it! And I love that the Touring Band is boldly performing this! The position held by many, is that the Touring Band "doesn't have the stuff" to perform the more edgy stuff of the catalog. It annoys me no end. That is a rockin' band. But, I don't think that they shouldn't turn the setlist into the whole late 60's early 70's "jam" era, because that shuts out those segments of the audience who aren't familiar with some of this stuff that the boomers just listen to all the time, regardless of prevailing opinion. Some people really prefer the themed work, over the greatest hits. We need all kinds of fans. And after seeing 3 back-to-backs, this weekend, has the fanbase ever exploded! Little kids to great grandparents. Amazing! A little spoon-feeding of this stuff into the setlists, as well as these band-released stuff, can light the fuse to renewed interest in the lesser-known gems. Title: Re: \ Post by: phirnis on August 19, 2013, 12:32:04 PM It doesn't sound very Brian at all I see what you mean. I guess this here is Carl's version. Love it! Strange reverb though. I hope the guys know that after HPM and WH we all want a new early 70s concert CD ;D An entire album full of recordings such as this one and the '72 Rhonda would be beyond fantastic. Personally I doubt it's going to happen because of the lack of original Brian involvement but who knows... I'd buy it in a heartbeat! Title: Re: Post by: Rocker on August 19, 2013, 12:40:35 PM Very cool! Brings back memories of the 1972 Philly show at the Spectrum. Saw 7 of the 8 Beach Boys from that period. Also, Mike was dressed as a carnival barker. Strawhat, Red & white striped jacket and cane. This one? (http://paw.princeton.edu/issues/2011/07/06/pages/4727/LIVE.R-CC_MikeLove.jpg) Source: http://paw.princeton.edu/issues/2011/07/06/pages/4727/index.xml Title: Re: \ Post by: Mikie on August 19, 2013, 12:41:48 PM The position held by many, is that the Touring Band "doesn't have the stuff" to perform the more edgy stuff of the catalog. It annoys me no end. That is a rockin' band. C'mon. Let's get real here, Fillthepage. This is the REAL Beach Boys in 1972 we're talking about, not Mike and Bruce with a cover band! How can you compare? In fact, I don't think Bruce was even at these particular '72 gigs, so there's only ONE original Beach Boy in the Mike & Bruce show today that was in attendance for these versions of Ronda and Wild Honey! Like I said, these versions of Ronda with Dennis and Wild Honey with Blondie have a lot of SOUL behind them. Not taking anything from your friend Cowsill there - he's a very good drummer/singer, but....... Title: Re: Post by: drbeachboy on August 19, 2013, 12:42:09 PM Not quite! :)
Title: Re: Post by: drbeachboy on August 19, 2013, 12:45:28 PM The position held by many, is that the Touring Band "doesn't have the stuff" to perform the more edgy stuff of the catalog. It annoys me no end. That is a rockin' band. C'mon. Let's get real here, Fillthepage. This is the REAL Beach Boys in 1972 we're talking about, not Mike and Bruce with a cover band! How can you compare? In fact, I don't think Bruce was even at these particular '72 gigs, so there's only ONE original Beach Boy in the Mike & Bruce show today that was in attendance for these versions of Ronda and Wild Honey! Title: Re: \ Post by: Bill M on August 19, 2013, 12:49:48 PM Holy crap is this freakin' awesome or what.
Title: Re: \ Post by: Mikie on August 19, 2013, 12:54:27 PM Don't need the reverb/echo. Little too much here, especially compared to the acetate. Sounds like he's singing across a lake or canyon. And there's instances where it seems like his voice was messed with on the recording. Why mess with it?? Unfortunately, I think it's gonna be like this on MIC.
If this is Blondie on the bridge, could that guy play guitar or what! Not so sure even Ed Carter could play like that, much less Carl, Al, or Billy. Title: Re: \ Post by: filledeplage on August 19, 2013, 01:11:39 PM The position held by many, is that the Touring Band "doesn't have the stuff" to perform the more edgy stuff of the catalog. It annoys me no end. That is a rockin' band. C'mon. Let's get real here, Fillthepage. This is the REAL Beach Boys in 1972 we're talking about, not Mike and Bruce with a cover band! How can you compare? In fact, I don't think Bruce was even at these particular '72 gigs, so there's only ONE original Beach Boy in the Mike & Bruce show today that was in attendance for these versions of Ronda and Wild Honey! Like I said, these versions of Ronda with Dennis and Wild Honey with Blondie have a lot of SOUL behind them. Not taking anything from your friend Cowsill there - he's a very good drummer/singer, but....... (quote) Hey Mikey - NO one said it was the 1972 band. I'm not comparing them. They aren't the same but should get their props for getting out there and doing lesser known gems. We can't turn back the clock. And these releases are fantastic. No one is playing this stuff live, but you can get a certain "snapshot" of some stuff. In 1972, virtually everyone was in college or was just out as BB fans. It was basically the same demographic of young people. Nothing like these students from 1972 now, bringing their grandkids. Who on this planet is going to play WH except some Beach Boys membered band? No one. And sadly, Carl and Dennis aren't here to see it all come "full circle" with 50+ years. Life goes on. I can tell you that I think I saw one of Johnston's last shows at Boston College in 1972. Around February or March. Toni Tenille was onstage. They were doing a lot of colleges then. As for Cowsill; he came with family cred before he played for the Touring Band, and was guided by extremely talented older brothers. At some point, one was reportedly in the running to tour with the Beach Boys. Title: Re: \ Post by: DonnyL on August 19, 2013, 01:13:48 PM I would go to a Mike & Bruce show if Mike played the theremin and wore his Maharishi clothes w/ long beard.
Title: Re: Post by: Mikie on August 19, 2013, 01:16:00 PM The position held by many, is that the Touring Band "doesn't have the stuff" to perform the more edgy stuff of the catalog. It annoys me no end. That is a rockin' band. C'mon. Let's get real here, Fillthepage. This is the REAL Beach Boys in 1972 we're talking about, not Mike and Bruce with a cover band! How can you compare? In fact, I don't think Bruce was even at these particular '72 gigs, so there's only ONE original Beach Boy in the Mike & Bruce show today that was in attendance for these versions of Ronda and Wild Honey! Here's what we know until we see the liners next week. Ronda was sung in NY, Wild Honey was NJ, right? March 1972 (w/Bruce, Daryl and Toni) 18 - Montclair College, Montclair NJ 19 - Cortland College, Syracuse NY 20 - Carnegie Hall, New York NY 21 - Carnegie Hall, New York NY 22 - Carnegie Hall, New York NY 23 - Kleinhans Music Hall, Buffalo NY 16 - State University of New York, Oneonta NY 25 - St Johns University, Jamaica NY August, September (w/o Bruce, Toni) August 21 - Nassau Coliseum, New York NY September 1 - Convention Hall, Wildwood NJ November (w/o Bruce, Toni) 13 - Niagara University, Lewiston NY 14 - Palace Theater, Albany NY 15 - Fordham University, New York NY 16 - Memorial Auditorium, Syracuse NY 17 - Barton Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 19 - Capitol Theater, Passaic NJ [2 shows] 23 - Carnegie Hall, New York NY [2 shows] Title: Re: \ Post by: tpesky on August 19, 2013, 01:24:21 PM I personally love the BB live from about 1969-on much better than their studio work of that time! I know not everyone does. These cuts really really make me hope we get more live stuff. I'm not sure how much there is after this in the vaults to justify a full blown archival release but it seems like the live stuff, especially songs people are familiar with, would be good selling in the future.
Title: Re: Post by: filledeplage on August 19, 2013, 01:28:20 PM The position held by many, is that the Touring Band "doesn't have the stuff" to perform the more edgy stuff of the catalog. It annoys me no end. That is a rockin' band. C'mon. Let's get real here, Fillthepage. This is the REAL Beach Boys in 1972 we're talking about, not Mike and Bruce with a cover band! How can you compare? In fact, I don't think Bruce was even at these particular '72 gigs, so there's only ONE original Beach Boy in the Mike & Bruce show today that was in attendance for these versions of Ronda and Wild Honey! He's what we know until we see the liners next week. Ronda was sung in NY, Wild Honey was NJ, right? March 1972 (w/Bruce, Daryl and Toni) 18 - Montclair College, Montclair NJ 19 - Cortland College, Syracuse NY 20 - Carnegie Hall, New York NY 21 - Carnegie Hall, New York NY 22 - Carnegie Hall, New York NY 23 - Kleinhans Music Hall, Buffalo NY 16 - State University of New York, Oneonta NY 25 - St Johns University, Jamaica NY August, September (w/o Bruce, Toni) August 21 - Nassau Coliseum, New York NY September 1 - Convention Hall, Wildwood NJ November (w/o Bruce, Toni) I think but not sure if Daryl was still there in late '72. Didn't get credit for the '72 gigs on "In Concert", did he? 13 - Niagara University, Lewiston NY 14 - Palace Theater, Albany NY 15 - Fordham University, New York NY 16 - Memorial Auditorium, Syracuse NY 17 - Barton Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 19 - Capitol Theater, Passaic NJ [2 shows] 23 - Carnegie Hall, New York NY [2 shows] Has Blondie on lead. Mike Dennis Carl Al Blondie Ricky Backup Lloyd Hinsche Dragon Tenille Contributed by "C-man" Title: Re: Post by: The Shift on August 19, 2013, 01:32:15 PM It's just you. That's it. After MIC comes out, I'm gonna petition for a live box from the different stages of their career. If they don't go for that, request that an early 70's release - specifically '71 - '75. There's obviously some good live stuff in the can that we haven't heard before, and stuff of very good quality on bootlegs that should see the light of day. With you all the way on this. This era is the live BBs at their peak and word out to be out there. This version of Wild Honey is great to my ears for far more than Blondie's vocal… it's the instrumental break that's so fluid and alive, and the backing vocals that are so confident and united, and the terrific ending. Haven't a/b'ed with the acetate version yet… but am smiling at this version. Title: Re: Post by: drbeachboy on August 19, 2013, 01:33:27 PM The position held by many, is that the Touring Band "doesn't have the stuff" to perform the more edgy stuff of the catalog. It annoys me no end. That is a rockin' band. C'mon. Let's get real here, Fillthepage. This is the REAL Beach Boys in 1972 we're talking about, not Mike and Bruce with a cover band! How can you compare? In fact, I don't think Bruce was even at these particular '72 gigs, so there's only ONE original Beach Boy in the Mike & Bruce show today that was in attendance for these versions of Ronda and Wild Honey! He's what we know until we see the liners next week. Ronda was sung in NY, Wild Honey was NJ, right? March 1972 (w/Bruce, Daryl and Toni) 18 - Montclair College, Montclair NJ 19 - Cortland College, Syracuse NY 20 - Carnegie Hall, New York NY 21 - Carnegie Hall, New York NY 22 - Carnegie Hall, New York NY 23 - Kleinhans Music Hall, Buffalo NY 16 - State University of New York, Oneonta NY 25 - St Johns University, Jamaica NY August, September (w/o Bruce, Toni) August 21 - Nassau Coliseum, New York NY September 1 - Convention Hall, Wildwood NJ November (w/o Bruce, Toni) I think but not sure if Daryl was still there in late '72. Didn't get credit for the '72 gigs on "In Concert", did he? 13 - Niagara University, Lewiston NY 14 - Palace Theater, Albany NY 15 - Fordham University, New York NY 16 - Memorial Auditorium, Syracuse NY 17 - Barton Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 19 - Capitol Theater, Passaic NJ [2 shows] 23 - Carnegie Hall, New York NY [2 shows] Blondie sang WH at my show. If I recall correctly, it was one of the encore songs. Title: Re: \ Post by: Shady on August 19, 2013, 01:35:47 PM Holy crap is this freakin' awesome or what. It's like the whole band's on speed.... Which is quite possible, I guess. Title: Re: \ Post by: runnersdialzero on August 19, 2013, 01:36:04 PM Why on earth is the theremin mixed so low? I always loved the sound they got out of it on the live versions of this song, it has this really cool "screaming" quality to it.
But it's like basically not here. Like, if you hadn't heard the original song, you probably wouldn't know it was there. Odd considering everyone makes a big deal about the theremin in this song. Srsly, what the fuck. Title: Re: \ Post by: Disney Boy (1985) on August 19, 2013, 01:43:43 PM Well I thought was unbelievably freakin' amazing!!
Seriously, once Blondie and Ricky left it was all downhill - artistically and credibility-wise. Title: Re: \ Post by: Phoenix on August 19, 2013, 02:01:50 PM MARVELOUS! I can't tell you how long I've been waiting for this!. :rock :listening
Title: Re: \ Post by: Ziggy Stardust on August 19, 2013, 02:05:41 PM looooove
Title: Re: \ Post by: DonnyL on August 19, 2013, 02:20:06 PM Why on earth is the theremin mixed so low? I always loved the sound they got out of it on the live versions of this song, it has this really cool "screaming" quality to it. But it's like basically not here. Like, if you hadn't heard the original song, you probably wouldn't know it was there. Odd considering everyone makes a big deal about the theremin in this song. Srsly, what the fuck. I think it was mixed low cause it's kind of out of tune ... pretty bad in some places. personally, i would have loved to hear it anyway. Title: Re: \ Post by: MBE on August 19, 2013, 02:23:01 PM No offense to Brian fans but this is the difference between the Beach Boys and his solo band. The Beach Boys on stage was a different thing to the Beach Boys on record. It's very cool when you can replicate a record, (the Beach Boys did this to an extent think Paris 1969) but to create something that builds on a recording and takes on a new life is much more exciting. That why a really good show from any of Brian's tours pretty much sums up the whole tour. The Beach Boys at the their peak it took quite a number of different shows to get the complete feel. To be fair the same thing applied to the reunion. A great performance like the first night in Chicago or London says all you need to know. 1962-75 live Beach Boys I can't hear enough.
Title: Re: \ Post by: runnersdialzero on August 19, 2013, 02:34:56 PM Why on earth is the theremin mixed so low? I always loved the sound they got out of it on the live versions of this song, it has this really cool "screaming" quality to it. But it's like basically not here. Like, if you hadn't heard the original song, you probably wouldn't know it was there. Odd considering everyone makes a big deal about the theremin in this song. Srsly, what the fuck. I think it was mixed low cause it's kind of out of tune ... pretty bad in some places. personally, i would have loved to hear it anyway. Sometimes, as I'm sure you know, the totally out of tune or off-time instrument is the thing that makes the performance or song. I feel like the theremin was extremely important to this performance, and it being mixed out is kind of a big deal, I feel. "Out of tune" should never, ever, ever be synonymous with "incorrect". It really saddens me if that's the reason it was mixed out of this version. Title: Re: \ Post by: SonicVolcano on August 19, 2013, 02:57:48 PM Holy sh*t.
Title: Re: \ Post by: Sheriff John Stone on August 19, 2013, 03:36:18 PM Maybe this belongs in the Unpopular Opinions thread....Certain band members are blamed for the group's return to the oldies in 1975-76, however.....When you listen to this "Wild Honey" version, it is immediately obvious that Dennis Wilson could never drum like that; he didn't have the skills. Maybe the band changed their sound/approach out of necessity, not by choice.
Title: Re: \ Post by: Mikie on August 19, 2013, 03:52:48 PM Mike's theramin is way up in the mix and on key for you here. June, 1972. Note on this video that Ed Carter is on bass, Al was playing rhythm, and Carl is on keys along with Dragon. Don't see Billy but he was in the band - also don't see Lloyd. Mike on theramin. Ricky on drums, Dennis Dragon on percussion. So I think it's Blondie singing AND playing those great searing guitar solos that you hear on Wild Honey!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRbBPhodF4Q I like the comment below. "Blondie Chaplin - the only guy who can take a song Carl originally sang on and make it his own." Title: Re: \ Post by: Don Malcolm on August 19, 2013, 04:00:50 PM Maybe this belongs in the Unpopular Opinions thread....Certain band members are blamed for the group's return to the oldies in 1975-76, however.....When you listen to this "Wild Honey" version, it is immediately obvious that Dennis Wilson could never drum like that; he didn't have the skills. Maybe the band changed their sound/approach out of necessity, not by choice. Not really an opinion, actually...more of a speculation. And it's not without some merit. Ricky is doing the drumming here live, and he was the studio drummer for at least the uptempo cuts on CATP, right? But wasn't the change back to higher number of oldies something that began sometime in '74 while Ricky was still in the band? Granted, it didn't "metastasize" until a bit later than that, but it seems that this trend was more gradual than a sudden, 180-degree turn. (Please feel free to leap in here and prove me wrong...) It's a shame that this phase of the BBs' career--the point in time when the band was capable of out-rockin' even the most bad-ass rockers--has been under wraps so long. And THAT's why a large number of folks were so crushed by the retrenchment that was to come. What a GREAT freakin' track!!! :hat :hat :hat :hat Title: Re: Post by: Mikie on August 19, 2013, 04:08:11 PM It's just you. That's it. After MIC comes out, I'm gonna petition for a live box from the different stages of their career. If they don't go for that, request that an early 70's release - specifically '71 - '75. There's obviously some good live stuff in the can that we haven't heard before, and stuff of very good quality on bootlegs that should see the light of day. With you all the way on this. This era is the live BBs at their peak and word out to be out there. This version of Wild Honey is great to my ears for far more than Blondie's vocal… it's the instrumental break that's so fluid and alive, and the backing vocals that are so confident and united, and the terrific ending. Haven't a/b'ed with the acetate version yet… but am smiling at this version. John, I think we agree a lot on this board. Maybe due to the close age differential. Next time you're in Northern Cali, we gotta compare notes over a coupla brewski's. Title: Re: \ Post by: Jim V. on August 19, 2013, 04:09:46 PM Maybe this belongs in the Unpopular Opinions thread....Certain band members are blamed for the group's return to the oldies in 1975-76, however.....When you listen to this "Wild Honey" version, it is immediately obvious that Dennis Wilson could never drum like that; he didn't have the skills. Maybe the band changed their sound/approach out of necessity, not by choice. Uh oh Sheriff, Jon Stebbins is gonna come in here and shed a tear now that you are saying Denny wasn't a great drummer!! What are you gonna say next, that David Marks was the least important Beach Boy!? You better not! ;) But yeah, you're totally right on. Dennis likely could not do something like this at all. Title: Re: \ Post by: Kurosawa on August 19, 2013, 04:11:30 PM Maybe this belongs in the Unpopular Opinions thread....Certain band members are blamed for the group's return to the oldies in 1975-76, however.....When you listen to this "Wild Honey" version, it is immediately obvious that Dennis Wilson could never drum like that; he didn't have the skills. Maybe the band changed their sound/approach out of necessity, not by choice. Even after Ricky left, they didn't need to stick Dennis back behind the drums. A guy with his looks and charisma needed to have been up front from the beginning. One problem the BB had was a lack of sex appeal; Dennis up front fixed that problem. Title: Re: \ Post by: Loaf on August 19, 2013, 04:15:53 PM Awesome, i wasn't expecting the live band to be that good!
Title: Re: Post by: Dave Modny on August 19, 2013, 04:25:32 PM Wild Honey is most likely from Montclair (the day after my show 3/17/72), or it is from later in the year in Passaic. Blondie sang WH at my show. If I recall correctly, it was one of the encore songs. Hi Dr., It should be Passaic. Both that and the four-day-later Carnegie shows were professionally recorded or filmed, and as far as I know, that wasn't the case for the earlier '72 leg shows. Just as noteworthy, they call out "Captain Keyboards" at the end of "Rhonda" from Carnegie, so Daryl was indeed there right through the two Carnegie shows -- which were the final of the tour. He's also obviously mentioned in that "Rhonda"/NJ clip. Also, and I'm not home right now to check, but I believe the Concert book even notes this all specifically. Perhaps even more importantly, I was always told that the acetate version of WH was from Passaic, and this is obviously the same performance. No skips. Different speed. Though...I kind of miss that nice, loose, big fat bass sound of that lower-fi, acetate Moffitt mix. I still have my reservations about some of ML's mastering preferences, but, that's another thread. :) Title: Re: \ Post by: Cabinessenceking on August 19, 2013, 04:26:42 PM No offense to Brian fans but this is the difference between the Beach Boys and his solo band. The Beach Boys on stage was a different thing to the Beach Boys on record. It's very cool when you can replicate a record, (the Beach Boys did this to an extent think Paris 1969) but to create something that builds on a recording and takes on a new life is much more exciting. That why a really good show from any of Brian's tours pretty much sums up the whole tour. The Beach Boys at the their peak it took quite a number of different shows to get the complete feel. To be fair the same thing applied to the reunion. A great performance like the first night in Chicago or London says all you need to know. 1962-75 live Beach Boys I can't hear enough. I agree. The C50 version/present version of CalGirls for example I find almost unlistenable. The organ Darian plays on that sucks out all the joy for me (althoug I respect and admire Darian as a musician very much). But just listen to how CalGirls was performed in Nassau Coliseum (1974) or even at Knebworth (1980) and both those performances have so much energy compared to the bland modern incarnation. I guess the 'rock&roll' part has disappeared from most the Beach Boys music over the years... Title: Re: \ Post by: filledeplage on August 19, 2013, 04:39:30 PM Maybe this belongs in the Unpopular Opinions thread....Certain band members are blamed for the group's return to the oldies in 1975-76, however.....When you listen to this "Wild Honey" version, it is immediately obvious that Dennis Wilson could never drum like that; he didn't have the skills. Maybe the band changed their sound/approach out of necessity, not by choice. Sheriff - while this short streak of years showing an evolution of the band of sorts, we can't afford to forget that they were basically "in exile" playing colleges which were the "secondary markets" of the day, before casinos, and fairs, and abroad where there seemed to be a more artful reception of the work. By the time 1973 rolled around, and Nixon got the boot from the White House and Vietnam was winding down, the Boys could come back in a sort of "blaze of glory" singing Surfin USA, because the war was over and it was ok again to "party." And while Blondie and Ricky's work was brilliant, the whole dynamic of "coming home" as America's Band was phenomenal. What relief for Carl to come home and not be fighting the Draft? His trouble was "their" trouble, too. They played dates probono in exchange for Carl's freedom. I think there was a real quid pro quo going on for his benefit. And, they had 14 or 15 years as a band, they could kick back and make dough from the Endless Summer stuff. That setup "worked" for a while. And I have that Elton John/ Blondie Wild Honey on my favorites for my streamer for at least a year. It rocks. But, it isn't the "steady diet" for music. Wasn't Dennis' hand injured and recovering for quite some time? Dennis wasn't the greatest drummer ever born, but he sure was the sexiest, and projected an image as a sex symbol in surfing, racing and the Two Lane Blacktop movie. I often think of him as the James Dean of the Beach Boys, similarly as a legendary icon. Title: Re: Post by: Mikie on August 19, 2013, 05:11:40 PM It should be Passaic. Both that and the four-day-later Carnegie shows were professionally recorded or filmed, and as far as I know, that wasn't the case for the earlier '72 leg shows. Just as noteworthy, they call out "Captain Keyboards" at the end of "Rhonda" from Carnegie, so Daryl was indeed there right through the two Carnegie shows -- which were the final of the tour. He's also obviously mentioned in that "Rhonda"/NJ clip. Also, and I'm not home right now to check, but I believe the Concert book even notes this all specifically. Perhaps even more importantly, I was always told that the acetate version of WH was from Passaic, and this is obviously the same performance. No skips. Different speed. Though...I kind of miss that nice, loose, big fat bass sound of that lower-fi, acetate Moffitt mix. I still have my reservations about some of ML's mastering preferences, but, that's another thread. :) Good post. Yeah, Daryl was there for most of the year - you hear him referred to in one of the shows in March, see/hear him in the UK in June, and hear him again at Carnegie in November, 1972. Hear Dennis call out Daryl Dragon at the end of Ronda - Mike calls him Captain Keyboards in another show. Funny that the supporting guys weren't pictured on the "In Concert" album sleeve. Royalties...residuals... Agree on the crappy Moffitt mixes for "In Concert" (and CT&P). Muddled and hissy. Even the 11/23/72 Carnegie show blows "In Concert" away quality wise. And now I hear Ronda and Wild Honey here and "In Concert" (or Carnegie or other recording(s) are begging for a re-mixing and re-release. GHeez, what could have been........and still might be! Title: Re: Post by: drbeachboy on August 19, 2013, 05:22:34 PM No offense to Brian fans but this is the difference between the Beach Boys and his solo band. The Beach Boys on stage was a different thing to the Beach Boys on record. It's very cool when you can replicate a record, (the Beach Boys did this to an extent think Paris 1969) but to create something that builds on a recording and takes on a new life is much more exciting. That why a really good show from any of Brian's tours pretty much sums up the whole tour. The Beach Boys at the their peak it took quite a number of different shows to get the complete feel. To be fair the same thing applied to the reunion. A great performance like the first night in Chicago or London says all you need to know. 1962-75 live Beach Boys I can't hear enough. I agree. The C50 version/present version of CalGirls for example I find almost unlistenable. The organ Darian plays on that sucks out all the joy for me (althoug I respect and admire Darian as a musician very much). But just listen to how CalGirls was performed in Nassau Coliseum (1974) or even at Knebworth (1980) and both those performances have so much energy compared to the bland modern incarnation. I guess the 'rock&roll' part has disappeared from most the Beach Boys music over the years... Title: Re: Post by: drbeachboy on August 19, 2013, 05:29:50 PM Maybe this belongs in the Unpopular Opinions thread....Certain band members are blamed for the group's return to the oldies in 1975-76, however.....When you listen to this "Wild Honey" version, it is immediately obvious that Dennis Wilson could never drum like that; he didn't have the skills. Maybe the band changed their sound/approach out of necessity, not by choice. Sheriff - while this short streak of years showing an evolution of the band of sorts, we can't afford to forget that they were basically "in exile" playing colleges which were the "secondary markets" of the day, before casinos, and fairs, and abroad where there seemed to be a more artful reception of the work. By the time 1973 rolled around, and Nixon got the boot from the White House and Vietnam was winding down, the Boys could come back in a sort of "blaze of glory" singing Surfin USA, because the war was over and it was ok again to "party." And while Blondie and Ricky's work was brilliant, the whole dynamic of "coming home" as America's Band was phenomenal. What relief for Carl to come home and not be fighting the Draft? His trouble was "their" trouble, too. They played dates probono in exchange for Carl's freedom. I think there was a real quid pro quo going on for his benefit. And, they had 14 or 15 years as a band, they could kick back and make dough from the Endless Summer stuff. That setup "worked" for a while. And I have that Elton John/ Blondie Wild Honey on my favorites for my streamer for at least a year. It rocks. But, it isn't the "steady diet" for music. Wasn't Dennis' hand injured and recovering for quite some time? Dennis wasn't the greatest drummer ever born, but he sure was the sexiest, and projected an image as a sex symbol in surfing, racing and the Two Lane Blacktop movie. I often think of him as the James Dean of the Beach Boys, similarly as a legendary icon. Title: Re: \ Post by: Shady on August 19, 2013, 05:34:00 PM No offense to Brian fans but this is the difference between the Beach Boys and his solo band. The Beach Boys on stage was a different thing to the Beach Boys on record. It's very cool when you can replicate a record, (the Beach Boys did this to an extent think Paris 1969) but to create something that builds on a recording and takes on a new life is much more exciting. That why a really good show from any of Brian's tours pretty much sums up the whole tour. The Beach Boys at the their peak it took quite a number of different shows to get the complete feel. To be fair the same thing applied to the reunion. A great performance like the first night in Chicago or London says all you need to know. 1962-75 live Beach Boys I can't hear enough. I've been saying that about Brian's band for a while but you've said it much better Title: Re: \ Post by: MarcellaHasDirtyFeet on August 19, 2013, 05:38:51 PM I don't know... As I posted in another thread after someone posted a BW Band version of Marcella, I thought it rocked 10x harder than the C50 version. Is this the difference between early 2000s solo Brian and his more recent work?
Title: Re: \ Post by: Mikie on August 19, 2013, 06:06:59 PM I don't know... As I posted in another thread after someone posted a BW Band version of Marcella, I thought it rocked 10x harder than the C50 version. Is this the difference between early 2000s solo Brian and his more recent work? No, the difference was that David Marks was playing the Marcella licks during the C50, and both Probyn and Scott (mainly Scott) were playing it in Brian's band. I thought those instances where Marcella was being played during those Brian solo shows a couple of years ago were the all-time best. Better than C50, even better than the '72/'73 versions. And that's saying something! And the sexy Taylor Mills intros did absolutely no harm either! Title: Re: Post by: filledeplage on August 19, 2013, 06:19:56 PM No offense to Brian fans but this is the difference between the Beach Boys and his solo band. The Beach Boys on stage was a different thing to the Beach Boys on record. It's very cool when you can replicate a record, (the Beach Boys did this to an extent think Paris 1969) but to create something that builds on a recording and takes on a new life is much more exciting. That why a really good show from any of Brian's tours pretty much sums up the whole tour. The Beach Boys at the their peak it took quite a number of different shows to get the complete feel. To be fair the same thing applied to the reunion. A great performance like the first night in Chicago or London says all you need to know. 1962-75 live Beach Boys I can't hear enough. I agree. The C50 version/present version of CalGirls for example I find almost unlistenable. The organ Darian plays on that sucks out all the joy for me (althoug I respect and admire Darian as a musician very much). But just listen to how CalGirls was performed in Nassau Coliseum (1974) or even at Knebworth (1980) and both those performances have so much energy compared to the bland modern incarnation. I guess the 'rock&roll' part has disappeared from most the Beach Boys music over the years... The music is of Thomas seems to be more Florida rock, which is nice for that style, and not California music, which is the BB roots, and seems edgier in some way. Brian is not the "cheeseburger in paradise" model. And, Mike is his lyricist. It is too bad the writing arrangement never came to fruition. JMHO ;) Ya, this is not a popular thread as someone above said. Title: Re: Post by: Mikie on August 19, 2013, 06:26:51 PM Ya, this is not a popular thread as someone above said. Huh? Why? I think it's an excellent thread! Beats the hell outta those boring nauseating never-ending anti-Mike threads that have been permeating the board lately. These new tracks are from YOUR era as a young fan, Filledeplage. You should be appreciating them to the fullest extent of Beach Boys fandom! Title: Re: Post by: filledeplage on August 19, 2013, 06:34:13 PM Ya, this is not a popular thread as someone above said. Huh? Why? I think it's an excellent thread! Beats the hell outta those boring nauseating never-ending anti-Mike threads that have been permeating the board lately. These new tracks are from YOUR era as a young fan, Filledeplage. You should be appreciating them to the fullest extent of Beach Boys fandom! And, I'm so sick of the Mike bashing. Title: Re: \ Post by: DonnyL on August 19, 2013, 06:40:14 PM Why on earth is the theremin mixed so low? I always loved the sound they got out of it on the live versions of this song, it has this really cool "screaming" quality to it. But it's like basically not here. Like, if you hadn't heard the original song, you probably wouldn't know it was there. Odd considering everyone makes a big deal about the theremin in this song. Srsly, what the fuck. I think it was mixed low cause it's kind of out of tune ... pretty bad in some places. personally, i would have loved to hear it anyway. Sometimes, as I'm sure you know, the totally out of tune or off-time instrument is the thing that makes the performance or song. I feel like the theremin was extremely important to this performance, and it being mixed out is kind of a big deal, I feel. "Out of tune" should never, ever, ever be synonymous with "incorrect". It really saddens me if that's the reason it was mixed out of this version. yep. totally Title: Re: \ Post by: bgas on August 19, 2013, 07:12:05 PM Mike's theramin is way up in the mix and on key for you here. June, 1972. Note on this video that Ed Carter is on bass, Al was playing rhythm, and Carl is on keys along with Dragon. Don't see Billy but he was in the band - also don't see Lloyd. Mike on theramin. Ricky on drums, Dennis Dragon on percussion. So I think it's Blondie singing AND playing those great searing guitar solos that you hear on Wild Honey!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRbBPhodF4Q I like the comment below. "Blondie Chaplin - the only guy who can take a song Carl originally sang on and make it his own." Something to note: Watching this video,there seems to be a glaring disparity: as the main song is ending up to about 2:04 you can still see Ed playing Fender bass; as it kicks back in with the ending guitar solo at about 2:10 Ed is playing a Les Paul six string and while his outfit looks very similar to the one he started wearing, either it's a different day or a different vest. Some of the differences I see could be camera angles, I guess, but it sure seems like they spliced in some footage. Mike appears WAY behind Carl at the piano and seconds later he's right uinderneath him. Just seems strange. Title: Re: \ Post by: Mikie on August 19, 2013, 07:34:44 PM Yeah! You know it looks like Carter switches from bass to lead guitar halfway through the video. And Ed's definitely playing lead riffs! So maybe it's only Carter on lead but it's hard to tell because you see Carter playing lead on the Les Paul later in the video. Was this a video splice or Did Ed put down the bass and pick up the Les Paul? Or were both Blondie AND Carter playing the guitar riffs? Doesn't seem logical - somebody's gotta be playing bass!
Let's hear from C-man and see what he thinks. Title: Re: \ Post by: alf wiedersehen on August 19, 2013, 07:44:13 PM Hmm, that's interesting. It definitely seems odd how fast Ed was able to switch instruments.
Also, I'm positive that the notes we see Ed playing on the guitar don't match with the ones we hear on the recording. Title: Re: \ Post by: Mikie on August 19, 2013, 08:35:04 PM Then it was a video splice, eh? I can't see Ed switching instruments in the middle of a song anyway. Doesn't make sense. If he puts down the bass, who's gonna play bass? Probably not a keyboard. Gotta be two video segments from different songs.
Title: Re: \ Post by: metal flake paint on August 19, 2013, 08:38:06 PM I reckon that it's just random editing as it occurs at other times during the Good Vibrations from London footage.
Title: Re: \ Post by: Wah Wah Wah Ooooo on August 19, 2013, 09:00:47 PM This is pretty cool overall...lead vocal is much better than Carl's on the album version (not hard...Carl's weakest vocal performance, imo). It is rushed...it would have rocked harder if it was slowed down slightly. Also, Mike really, really sucks at playing the theramin. I mean, I know it's not an easy thing to play, but if it's going to be that out of tune, leave it out of the performance altogether.
Title: Re: \ Post by: bgas on August 19, 2013, 09:01:03 PM Yeah! You know it looks like Carter switches from bass to lead guitar halfway through the video. And Ed's definitely playing lead riffs! So maybe it's only Carter on lead but it's hard to tell because you see Carter playing lead on the Les Paul later in the video. Was this a video splice or Did Ed put down the bass and pick up the Les Paul? Or were both Blondie AND Carter playing the guitar riffs? Doesn't seem logical - somebody's gotta be playing bass! Let's hear from C-man and see what he thinks. Hmm, that's interesting. It definitely seems odd how fast Ed was able to switch instruments. Also, I'm positive that the notes we see Ed playing on the guitar don't match with the ones we hear on the recording. Yep. There's NO way Ed switched guitars in 5 seconds. It has to be from a different video And Ed definitely starts the video playing bass and continues until at least 2:04, so that means spliced shots. Video is a bit cleaner here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpmYn0Ahgb8 Title: Re: \ Post by: runnersdialzero on August 19, 2013, 09:26:09 PM This is pretty cool overall...lead vocal is much better than Carl's on the album version (not hard...Carl's weakest vocal performance, imo). It is rushed...it would have rocked harder if it was slowed down slightly. Also, Mike really, really sucks at playing the theramin. I mean, I know it's not an easy thing to play, but if it's going to be that out of tune, leave it out of the performance altogether. Funny, "Wild Honey" is probably in my top 5 Carl vocal performances and I love the f*** out of the theremin in this version and wish it hadn't been mixed so low. TELL ME I'M NOT ALONE :'( Title: Re: \ Post by: Jay on August 19, 2013, 09:27:21 PM Having heard this version, I now know what this song is about. ;D >:D
Title: Re: \ Post by: Mikie on August 19, 2013, 09:36:30 PM Yeah! You know it looks like Carter switches from bass to lead guitar halfway through the video. And Ed's definitely playing lead riffs! So maybe it's only Carter on lead but it's hard to tell because you see Carter playing lead on the Les Paul later in the video. Was this a video splice or Did Ed put down the bass and pick up the Les Paul? Or were both Blondie AND Carter playing the guitar riffs? Doesn't seem logical - somebody's gotta be playing bass! Let's hear from C-man and see what he thinks. Hmm, that's interesting. It definitely seems odd how fast Ed was able to switch instruments. Also, I'm positive that the notes we see Ed playing on the guitar don't match with the ones we hear on the recording. Yep. There's NO way Ed switched guitars in 5 seconds. It has to be from a different video And Ed definitely starts the video playing bass and continues until at least 2:04, so that means spliced shots. Video is a bit cleaner here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpmYn0Ahgb8 Yeah, MUCH cleaner. That's the best I've ever seen that clip. Sure would be cool to see the entire concert, wouldn't it? So Billy Hinsche WAS there as I see him on keys next to Dragon and later on guitar on Rhonda. Title: Re: \ Post by: Phoenix on August 19, 2013, 09:43:44 PM That's TOTALLY a splice, or more accurately a completely horrible edit! ;D I've always hated that and the worst part is someone somewhere took footage from THAT period (which is SO hard to come by) and tossed it. I'd hold hope that the whole thing is safely stashed somewhere but the "professional" level of skill used in the editing process makes me think that hope would be pointless. :'(
Title: Re: \ Post by: metal flake paint on August 19, 2013, 09:52:46 PM At Bellagio 10452, AGD mentions that the Good Vibrations from London broadcast featured four songs by The Beach Boys. Anyone know what that fourth song was?
Title: Re: \ Post by: Jay on August 19, 2013, 10:02:53 PM Going from memory(never a good idea), I think one of the songs they played was Darlin'.
Title: Re: \ Post by: phirnis on August 19, 2013, 11:46:32 PM This is pretty cool overall...lead vocal is much better than Carl's on the album version (not hard...Carl's weakest vocal performance, imo). It is rushed...it would have rocked harder if it was slowed down slightly. Also, Mike really, really sucks at playing the theramin. I mean, I know it's not an easy thing to play, but if it's going to be that out of tune, leave it out of the performance altogether. Funny, "Wild Honey" is probably in my top 5 Carl vocal performances and I love the f*** out of the theremin in this version and wish it hadn't been mixed so low. TELL ME I'M NOT ALONE :'( It's one of my favorite Carl performances too! Some of it sounds a bit over-the-top and that's part of the fun. Overall I find his singing very convincing on this song and much more so than on most other actual rock songs he was going to attempt later in his career. Title: Re: \ Post by: metal flake paint on August 19, 2013, 11:50:40 PM Going from memory(never a good idea), I think one of the songs they played was Darlin'. Sounds plausible. Thanks.Title: Re: \ Post by: Jay on August 20, 2013, 12:40:42 AM I have an audio recording of it somewhere. I'll check tonight and report back.
Title: Re: \ Post by: Cabinessenceking on August 20, 2013, 01:55:39 AM This is pretty cool overall...lead vocal is much better than Carl's on the album version (not hard...Carl's weakest vocal performance, imo). It is rushed...it would have rocked harder if it was slowed down slightly. Also, Mike really, really sucks at playing the theramin. I mean, I know it's not an easy thing to play, but if it's going to be that out of tune, leave it out of the performance altogether. Funny, "Wild Honey" is probably in my top 5 Carl vocal performances and I love the f*** out of the theremin in this version and wish it hadn't been mixed so low. TELL ME I'M NOT ALONE :'( I agree. The theremin is arguably better when slightly off tune and makes for that 'spooky' sound Brian so enjoyed. It's still audible luckily. Title: Re: \ Post by: Jay on August 20, 2013, 03:00:26 AM Going from memory(never a good idea), I think one of the songs they played was Darlin'. Sounds plausible. Thanks.Title: Re: Post by: drbeachboy on August 20, 2013, 04:13:08 AM This is pretty cool overall...lead vocal is much better than Carl's on the album version (not hard...Carl's weakest vocal performance, imo). It is rushed...it would have rocked harder if it was slowed down slightly. Also, Mike really, really sucks at playing the theramin. I mean, I know it's not an easy thing to play, but if it's going to be that out of tune, leave it out of the performance altogether. Funny, "Wild Honey" is probably in my top 5 Carl vocal performances and I love the f*** out of the theremin in this version and wish it hadn't been mixed so low. TELL ME I'M NOT ALONE :'( Title: Re: \ Post by: metal flake paint on August 20, 2013, 04:52:36 AM Going from memory(never a good idea), I think one of the songs they played was Darlin'. Sounds plausible. Thanks.Title: Re: \ Post by: filledeplage on August 20, 2013, 05:10:46 AM This is pretty cool overall...lead vocal is much better than Carl's on the album version (not hard...Carl's weakest vocal performance, imo). It is rushed...it would have rocked harder if it was slowed down slightly. Also, Mike really, really sucks at playing the theramin. I mean, I know it's not an easy thing to play, but if it's going to be that out of tune, leave it out of the performance altogether. Fhttp://r1.ace.advertising.com/click/site=0000854780/mnum=0001386814/cstr=85594167=_51c83137,2574248804,854780_1386814_87_0,1_/xsxdata=$XSXDATA/bnum=85594167unny, "Wild Honey" is probably in my top 5 Carl vocal performances and I love the f*** out of the theremin in this version and wish it hadn't been mixed so low. TELL ME I'M NOT ALONE :'(You are not alone, I wish it was higher as well. It's cool to see Mike crouched down on the (Elton-London-Blondie) clip and playing it. (Theremin.) But, I think he did a pretty good job at it. Did Good Vibes, live, from the outset, and it sounded great. Carl did do an outstanding job on WH and everything he sang. Title: Re: \ Post by: Cliff1000uk on August 20, 2013, 05:14:56 AM Here you go guys....as an mp3
http://www.sendspace.com/file/4qzdr0 I've been listening to this all morning along with Rhonda-I'm not sure I'll make it to the weekend for this boxset! Title: Re: \ Post by: hypehat on August 20, 2013, 05:15:29 AM Thanks!
Title: Re: \ Post by: SonicVolcano on August 20, 2013, 05:29:47 AM Here you go guys....as an mp3 http://www.sendspace.com/file/4qzdr0 I've been listening to this all morning along with Rhonda-I'm not sure I'll make it to the weekend for this boxset! Cheers mate :) Title: Re: Post by: drbeachboy on August 20, 2013, 06:36:48 AM Here you go guys....as an mp3 Thank you, Cliff1000uk! :)http://www.sendspace.com/file/4qzdr0 I've been listening to this all morning along with Rhonda-I'm not sure I'll make it to the weekend for this boxset! Title: Re: \ Post by: Phoenix on August 20, 2013, 09:11:53 AM Here you go guys....as an mp3 http://www.sendspace.com/file/4qzdr0 I've been listening to this all morning along with Rhonda-I'm not sure I'll make it to the weekend for this boxset! Thanks again! You're certainly doing your part for the community today. :) Title: Re: \ Post by: leggo of my ego on August 20, 2013, 03:10:25 PM Here you go guys....as an mp3 http://www.sendspace.com/file/4qzdr0 I've been listening to this all morning along with Rhonda-I'm not sure I'll make it to the weekend for this boxset! Cool! :hat Title: Re: \ Post by: Emdeeh on August 20, 2013, 03:25:46 PM Funny, "Wild Honey" is probably in my top 5 Carl vocal performances and I love the f*** out of the theremin in this version and wish it hadn't been mixed so low. TELL ME I'M NOT ALONE :'( You are NOT alone! I love Carl's performance on WH and also miss the tannerin on the 1972 live version. Even so, this live version is a winner, imho. :love "Wild Honey" :love Title: Re: \ Post by: scooby1970 on August 21, 2013, 03:23:49 AM This version of Wild Honey is the kind of track you play to your friends who think The Beach Boys were un-hip and made saccharine filled tunes and nothing else. QUite simply mind-blowing and a reminder why The Beach Boys are our favourite band.
:) Mark Title: Re: \ Post by: RangeRoverA1 on August 24, 2013, 04:17:51 AM Somehow forgot about WH-1972. Once again, words of thanking go to Cliff for uploading this file. Good job!
Now to the nitty-gritty. 1st, the song's intro is totally epic, notwithstanding it's similar to that of L.A.'s Here Comes the Night. 2nd point: at 1st, I didn't like Blondie's howling vocs at all (the only time I thought so, otherwise I consider him a great singer!), but on the 3rd-5th listen it kind of grew on getting used to it. I think now, after 10 listens or so, that Blondie did great performance! Cool extended falsettos! About live arrangement: going by memory, it seems to be the only case when the BBs song has 2 guitar solos (each of which is terrific in their own different style). Electronic spacey sounds surely added something, especially combined with the rest set of instruments &, of course, Blondie's voice. Also, some posters complained about silence of theremin & to me, the synth helped solving it. Actually, it worked better than the former, 'twas no less psychedelic substitute. I generally like when the artists do their numbers on stage not just how it was done in the studio, but change-challenging them in one or another way. So, I don't regret the sonically low/lack of theremin. All in all, to sum up the aforementioned, this is a great version! In itself. Without comparing it to Carl's classic. Btw, speaking of that, I'm a fan of anything (except Girl Don't Tell Me & All Dressed Up for School) sung by Carl in the 60s. And Wild Honey, along with How She Boogalooed It, is his crown achievement, very rocking! |