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Title: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: TommyPlural on June 04, 2013, 08:46:13 AM
There's an old thread about this that devolves into a debate about Ringo Starr and Charles Manson (http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,647.0.html), but I've always been curious about how Mike Love writes songs (the 'sole credit' Mike Love songs like 'Everyone's in Love With You,' 'Sumahama,' 'Cool Head Warm Heart' etc). Has this ever been definitively addressed? Has Mike ever talked about this in an interview?


Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: STE on June 04, 2013, 10:24:53 AM


With his old guitar he makes up songs to sing.




Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: ontor pertawst on June 04, 2013, 10:29:20 AM
He stares into a haunted mirror that shows a younger version of himself silently mouthing the lyrics. Over the years he's gotten pretty good at lipreading and transcribing these visions from the haunted mirror, which results in so many of the compositions we enjoy today.


Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: Melt Away on June 04, 2013, 10:39:28 AM
He flings poo at a piano and whatever keys it lands on is the song! That's how we got(or didn't get) UTL.


Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: TimmyC on June 04, 2013, 10:44:00 AM
I for one think it's an interesting question for which I have absolutely no knowledge whatsoever... anyone? Bueller?? Bueller??


Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: Mike's Beard on June 04, 2013, 10:48:02 AM
Mike is seen playing piano on the "Mike, Come Back to LA" footage. He can also play basic guitar. I imagine he is more than capable of writing bare boned chord progressions for his song ideas. As mentioned on the older thread he most likely sang/hummed melody ideas to someone who transcribed them. Daryll Dragon arranged "Everyone's in Love With You" and I'm guessing it was Ron Altbach who arranged "Suhamhama".


Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: SenorPotatoHead on June 04, 2013, 12:11:56 PM
He starts with "Well" and it all flows from there.  :-D


Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: Lowbacca on June 04, 2013, 12:17:37 PM
He uses something that is called a "kesha": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMsZ8nGkPUM - similar to what Melt Away envisioned. :-D


Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: Mendota Heights on June 04, 2013, 01:03:26 PM
I see there is a lot of speculation going on here.

Mike Love actually bases his chord progressions on smoke signals he found under a rock in an underwater above ground cave in south-north Arizona in 1327.


Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: Pretty Funky on June 04, 2013, 03:04:06 PM
Most of the speculation is on music which is not Mikes bag. He's the lyric guy!

He has a spinning wheel with all hooks from the bands 60's hits, gives it a whirl, gets a phrase and builds a lyric around it.


Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: TommyPlural on June 04, 2013, 03:08:05 PM
Sounds like it's safe to say that many of Mike's mental processes are a complete mystery.


Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: ontor pertawst on June 04, 2013, 03:17:00 PM
As Mike Love above, so below.


Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: c-man on June 04, 2013, 03:49:26 PM
Mike is seen playing piano on the "Mike, Come Back to LA" footage. He can also play basic guitar. I imagine he is more than capable of writing bare boned chord progressions for his song ideas. As mentioned on the older thread he most likely sang/hummed melody ideas to someone who transcribed them. Daryll Dragon arranged "Everyone's in Love With You" and I'm guessing it was Ron Altbach who arranged "Suhamhama".

The 15 Big Ones back slick credits Mike Love with the arrangement of "Everyone's In Love With You" and Daryl Dragon with the vocal arrangement.  Is more known about this?

As for "Sumahama", Bob Alcivar did the string and horn arrangements...my guess is Bruce did the vocal arrangement on the L.A. version.


Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: SummerInParadise23 on June 04, 2013, 03:50:28 PM
Can anyone answer his question in a mature respectful way? I'm interested to know as well.


Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: Mr. Cohen on June 04, 2013, 03:59:51 PM
His lyrics writing process nowadays, as gleaned from interviews and the finished materials, is to meditate about a topic and then scrawl cliched phrases with simplistic rhymes. For example, say someone told him to write about Malcom X. Mike would meditate on it by a window and then write this in 5 minutes.

Malcom X
Changed the world, yeah
Malcom X
For brothers and sisters, yeah

Malcom X, well he rocked the boat, now
He got their goat, now
With his autobiography
In fact, check out his bibliography
Critics said the pot called the kettle black
But he was just ahead of the pack

Malcom X
Changed the world, yeah
Malcom X
For brothers and sisters, yeah

And so on...


Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: Mendota Heights on June 04, 2013, 05:21:18 PM
His lyrics writing process nowadays, as gleaned from interviews and the finished materials, is to meditate about a topic and then scrawl cliched phrases with simplistic rhymes. For example, say someone told him to write about Malcom X. Mike would meditate on it by a window and then write this in 5 minutes.

Malcom X
Changed the world, yeah
Malcom X
For brothers and sisters, yeah

Malcom X, well he rocked the boat, now
He got their goat, now
With his autobiography
In fact, check out his bibliography
Critics said the pot called the kettle black
But he was just ahead of the pack

Malcom X
Changed the world, yeah
Malcom X
For brothers and sisters, yeah

And so on...

Can you write a song about hedgehogs dancing on rainbows? Myke Luhv style.


Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: bossaroo on June 04, 2013, 08:13:36 PM
Mike is the Executive Producer of all his songs. and don't you forget it.


Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: Melt Away on June 04, 2013, 09:41:04 PM
Can anyone answer his question in a mature respectful way? I'm interested to know as well.

Why don't you tell us....MIKE?!?!?!?!?!?


Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: Phoenix on June 04, 2013, 10:31:26 PM
Can anyone answer his question in a mature respectful way? I'm interested to know as well.

They already did!  Just a few posts above the one I quoted from you:


Mike is seen playing piano on the "Mike, Come Back to LA" footage. He can also play basic guitar. I imagine he is more than capable of writing bare boned chord progressions for his song ideas. As mentioned on the older thread he most likely sang/hummed melody ideas to someone who transcribed them.


Or do you need something more than that?  ???


Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: Micha on June 05, 2013, 12:16:47 AM
He starts with "Well" and it all flows from there.  :-D

...and ends on "now"! ;D


Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on June 05, 2013, 01:05:30 AM
Can anyone answer his question in a mature respectful way? I'm interested to know as well.

Why don't you tell us....MIKE?!?!?!?!?!?

No, Mike is SummerInParadise22.






Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: Rocker on June 05, 2013, 04:52:56 AM
Mike is seen playing piano on the "Mike, Come Back to LA" footage. He can also play basic guitar. I imagine he is more than capable of writing bare boned chord progressions for his song ideas. As mentioned on the older thread he most likely sang/hummed melody ideas to someone who transcribed them.


Don't remember where I read it but that's the way Mike described his writing of a specific song. he hummed or sang his idea to Carl who wrote the music down for Mike


Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: TommyPlural on June 05, 2013, 08:43:51 AM
Right, I could assume that he has at least enough knowledge of chord progressions and scale degrees on different instruments that he can write and arrange ideas. Mostly I was curious if he had specifically ever addressed his process of writing music in an interview (written, audio, or visual) at any point. Seems he wouldn't shy away from a chance to show that he doesn't need a Wilson to toss some chords off.


Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: Mr. Cohen on June 05, 2013, 09:34:10 AM
I hate to say it, but I don't think anyone asks Mike Love about his songwriting process.


Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: Shady on June 05, 2013, 10:45:54 AM
He makes a long list of words that rhyme with Sun, Fun and vibrations and takes it from there.


Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: c-man on June 05, 2013, 04:33:01 PM
Mike is seen playing piano on the "Mike, Come Back to LA" footage. He can also play basic guitar. I imagine he is more than capable of writing bare boned chord progressions for his song ideas. As mentioned on the older thread he most likely sang/hummed melody ideas to someone who transcribed them.


Don't remember where I read it but that's the way Mike described his writing of a specific song. he hummed or sang his idea to Carl who wrote the music down for Mike

In the Goin' Platinum TV special, Mike described writing "Goin' To The Beach"...I can't remember how he said he conveyed it to Carl, but it probably was singing or humming, and then he said Carl did a demo on the guitar.


Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on June 05, 2013, 04:55:04 PM
I'll bet it's something like this but with VIBRATIONS and EXCITATIONS written on the chalk board in bold letters:

http://youtu.be/C9kejvxRokg


Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: adamghost on June 05, 2013, 06:07:00 PM
This thread is the funniest we've had in quite a while.


Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: TommyPlural on June 05, 2013, 06:52:39 PM
I hate to say it, but I don't think anyone asks Mike Love about his songwriting process.

Ha, you're probably right.

This thread is the funniest we've had in quite a while.

Happy to help!


Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: Melt Away on June 05, 2013, 07:50:52 PM
Can anyone answer his question in a mature respectful way? I'm interested to know as well.

Why don't you tell us....MIKE?!?!?!?!?!?
i

No, Mike is SummerInParadise22.

DRAT!






Title: Re: Mike Love's Songwriting Process
Post by: runnersdialzero on June 05, 2013, 08:27:11 PM
This thread is the funniest we've had in quite a while.

One might say the greatest thread in the history of the internet. THE GREATEST THREAD IN THE HISTORY OF OUR SPORT.