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Title: Will Brian. Al, and David perform "Kokomo"?
Post by: astroray on May 06, 2013, 06:33:49 PM
Just wondering if the BB trio will have "Kokomo" on their setlist?


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: SonoraDick on May 06, 2013, 06:38:02 PM
Not a chance. In my opinion, of course...


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: bgas on May 06, 2013, 06:52:54 PM
I think they'll probably use it as their Final encore, using a video Backdrop of Mike singing the song.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Gertie J. on May 06, 2013, 07:04:55 PM
bummer


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: RubberSoul13 on May 06, 2013, 07:16:56 PM
I can't hear any of them singing the lead or enjoying it...can't imagine the fans that Brian draws would either...


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Jay on May 06, 2013, 07:33:37 PM
Brian singing Kokomo would be like Slash's band performing November Rain.  ;D


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: ontor pertawst on May 06, 2013, 07:53:01 PM
Yes. But only in Spanish because that's what the meat and potatoes crowd wants.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: runnersdialzero on May 06, 2013, 07:53:35 PM
Brian singing Kokomo would be like Slash's band performing November Rain.  ;D

Except "November Rain" is actually one of their more worthwhile songs.

Also, no, I'm sure people who are not Al, Brian or David would prevent such a thing from happening.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: GoodToMyBaby on May 06, 2013, 08:07:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL5GnkWqO1k 2:21


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on May 06, 2013, 09:36:06 PM
I don't think Brian has ever played it in his solo shows.  Al has though.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: MBE on May 06, 2013, 11:29:58 PM
Considering how pissed off Brian looked during that song at the Chicago Beach Boys show last year, I don't think it will happen.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Jukka on May 06, 2013, 11:38:05 PM
I zoomed on Brian's face during Kokomo at BB's Berlin concert, just to see him sing merrily (for him) along. It's a cool song, written by their dear cousin and friend. I hope they do it. It would be a great way to rise above all the petty squabbling, and send a signal to Team Mike - "hey, you're alright, let's get back together and have some fun in the sun".


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Nicko1234 on May 07, 2013, 12:21:20 AM
If they were calling themselves The Beach Boys then they might have been forced into doing it. As David covered it once he may have been elected singer as Al looked none too pleased when he had to sing it back in 1999/2000.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Justin on May 07, 2013, 12:59:05 AM
Considering how pissed off Brian looked during that song at the Chicago Beach Boys show last year, I don't think it will happen.

Really?  Was at both shows and didn't notice it.  Brian was ridiculously on during that first show.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: MBE on May 07, 2013, 02:18:58 AM
Yes he was really on that day, NONE of the concerts I had seen footage of or have been at since 1976 prepared me for how good he was that day. It was like you imagine he was at his 1961-70 shows. Not vocally of course, but in how much he led the show. If you didn't notice I must have mixed it up with the Milwaukee show.  Anyway I saw him frowning, not singing, and with his arms crossed in seeming anger during Kokomo. He was fine the rest of the show, close to Chicago actually if not quite as on, but it was very clear that the memory of it pissed him off.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: AndrewHickey on May 07, 2013, 02:21:06 AM
Yes he was really on that day, NONE of the concerts I had seen footage of or have been at since 1976 prepared me for how good he was that day. It was like you imagine he was at his 1961-70 shows. Not vocally of course, but in how much he led the show. If you didn't notice I must have mixed it up with the Milwaukee show.  Anyway I saw him frowning, not singing, and with his arms crossed in seeming anger during Kokomo. He was fine the rest of the show, close to Chicago actually if not quite as on, but it was very clear that the memory of it pissed him off.

I suspect it wasn't Kokomo itself, but something else, that was bothering him there. The three shows I saw, he sang enthusiastically on Kokomo and played a strong instrumental part.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Nicko1234 on May 07, 2013, 02:25:06 AM

I suspect it wasn't Kokomo itself, but something else, that was bothering him there. The three shows I saw, he sang enthusiastically on Kokomo and played a strong instrumental part.

This.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: MBE on May 07, 2013, 06:13:56 AM
I don't know how to put it, but he really just seemed upset to hear it. That's what my wife and I both saw and she didn't even know he wasn't on it.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Nicko1234 on May 07, 2013, 06:26:03 AM
I don't know how to put it, but he really just seemed upset to hear it. That's what my wife and I both saw and she didn't even know he wasn't on it.

The voices?


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: AndrewHickey on May 07, 2013, 06:35:50 AM
I don't know how to put it, but he really just seemed upset to hear it. That's what my wife and I both saw and she didn't even know he wasn't on it.

Could have been that he was unwell, that he'd had an argument backstage before the encore, that he'd just realised that a change they'd agreed to the setlist was being ignored, any number of things. At the shows I saw he played a very prominent instrumental role (the only keyboard for a good chunk of the song) and sang enthusiastically. It certainly wasn't a general problem with performing that song.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Autotune on May 07, 2013, 08:44:18 AM
I don't know how to put it, but he really just seemed upset to hear it. That's what my wife and I both saw and she didn't even know he wasn't on it.

Now, here's a post for the "wife/girlfriend downer comments" thread!


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: leggo of my ego on May 07, 2013, 09:19:22 AM
I say Yes.

Just to disagree with the majority. :p


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: AndrewHickey on May 07, 2013, 09:25:43 AM
Personally I think it's almost exactly as likely as Mike and Bruce *not* doing Kokomo...


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Mike's Beard on May 07, 2013, 10:14:37 AM
I'd say there must be as much chance of this happening as Mike & Bruce playing "Till I Die".


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on May 07, 2013, 10:31:05 AM
Ooh, ooh, I need to start a thread, I need to start a thread, about ANYTHING!!! Can't think, can't think, what can it be about?

I know, what are Brian's favourite socks? No, too esoteric.

Oooh, I know..... Name your favourite top ten top ten favourite top ten best list, no, there's been a few of those, don't want to clutter the board up.

Ermmmm.......

I know......!!!

Will Brian, Al and Dave perform Kokomo. Brilliant!!!! I'll ignore the fact there is already a dedicated Brian, Al and Dave thread, and this obviously doesn't belong in the "various insignificant questions" thread. 

CAN YOU HEAR ME CAPITOL?  I'M READY TO COMMIT MURDER!

WHERE'S THE BLOODY BOXSET?


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on May 07, 2013, 10:32:50 AM
Just teasing, Astroray  :)


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: shelter on May 07, 2013, 10:33:10 AM
In a way it would be cool if they did Kokomo, I guess. Doing a Beach Boys song that isn't a Brian Wilson song would be kind of like saying that they are now carrying the Beach Boys torch.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on May 07, 2013, 10:47:36 AM
I still wonder what the DBA tour is all about. Still only, what, 7 shows announced. Are they paving the way for a change in the name license. If this is a trial run, they will do the song.

If Brian and Al get the license from BRI, it forces ML and Bruce to tour with them or go home.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: KittyKat on May 07, 2013, 12:18:56 PM
Brian may be only playing six dates because that's all he feels like right now. Having back surgery twice must mean his problems with it are significant, and it's hard to travel and sit on a stage with those types of problems. He may need the lighter schedule to get more rest in order to heal.  Having a cursory few dates may be a way to show Mike they're still there if there's any possibility of touring as the BB next year, and if not, there could be more B, A , & D dates next summer.  No one seems to know if or when the license may be up.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: HeyJude on May 07, 2013, 01:59:02 PM
I still wonder what the DBA tour is all about. Still only, what, 6 shows announced. Are they paving the way for a change in the name license. If this is a trial run, they will do the song.

If Brian and Al get the license from BRI, it forces ML and Bruce to tour with them or go home.

I've never been a big fan of Mike using the name. But I don't think Al and Brian are moving toward  trying to take the license away, nor does forcing Mike to tour with them sound like a good idea or an idea that would work. I firmly am highly critical of Mike nixing more reunion activities, but for better or worse I don't think Brian and Al will try to take the license back.

And I highly doubt they will perform "Kokomo", as Brian never has and Al only seems to add it to his setlist seemingly begrudgingly when he's doing a show where the audience would absolutely expect it.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Pretty Funky on May 07, 2013, 02:32:50 PM
Why bother with it when they will do "Summers Gone" so much better.


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Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on May 07, 2013, 02:48:06 PM
FTTBA May be the reason I go out of my way to be at one of these shows.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Jason on May 07, 2013, 03:06:45 PM
"I thought Kokomo was really great." - Brian Wilson

I'm just shocked he HASN'T done it live.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on May 07, 2013, 03:25:43 PM
I still wonder what the DBA tour is all about. Still only, what, 6 shows announced. Are they paving the way for a change in the name license. If this is a trial run, they will do the song.

If Brian and Al get the license from BRI, it forces ML and Bruce to tour with them or go home.

I've never been a big fan of Mike using the name. But I don't think Al and Brian are moving toward  trying to take the license away, nor does forcing Mike to tour with them sound like a good idea or an idea that would work. I firmly am highly critical of Mike nixing more reunion activities, but for better or worse I don't think Brian and Al will try to take the license back.

And I highly doubt they will perform "Kokomo", as Brian never has and Al only seems to add it to his setlist seemingly begrudgingly when he's doing a show where the audience would absolutely expect it.

Just wild speculation on my part as I anxiously await news on the boxset.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: AndrewHickey on May 07, 2013, 03:29:05 PM
"I thought Kokomo was really great." - Brian Wilson

I'm just shocked he HASN'T done it live.

The whole way Brian's solo shows are marketed though is that it's the 'arty', 'classy' show where you're going to see a real genius being a genius singing his genius genius without any of that evil Mike Love commercialism...


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: filledeplage on May 07, 2013, 03:54:21 PM
"I thought Kokomo was really great." - Brian Wilson
I'm just shocked he HASN'T done it live.
The whole way Brian's solo shows are marketed though is that it's the 'arty', 'classy' show where you're going to see a real genius being a genius singing his genius genius without any of that evil Mike Love commercialism...
They did Kokomo during C50 and Brian seemed to love seeing all the generations just meld under the influence of the music, and rock out all together.  It was connected with a blockbuster movie.  It would be a very cool addition to any setlist and I hope Brian, Al and David do. It is just such a fun song. 

We don't have to be arty 24/7; it's just too much work. 

Brian's shows, too, have a fun "party aspect."


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: AndrewHickey on May 07, 2013, 03:59:46 PM
"I thought Kokomo was really great." - Brian Wilson
I'm just shocked he HASN'T done it live.
The whole way Brian's solo shows are marketed though is that it's the 'arty', 'classy' show where you're going to see a real genius being a genius singing his genius genius without any of that evil Mike Love commercialism...
They did Kokomo during C50 and Brian seemed to love seeing all the generations just meld under the influence of the music, and rock out all together.  It was connected with a blockbuster movie.  It would be a very cool addition to any setlist and I hope Brian, Al and David do. It is just such a fun song. 

We don't have to be arty 24/7; it's just too much work. 

Brian's shows, too, have a fun "party aspect."


I'm not saying they don't, or that they *should* be "arty 24/7", but that that's how they're marketed. A substantial proportion of Brian's audience think Mike Love is the devil (in a couple of cases I think they actually think this literally) and that Kokomo is everything they hate. And certainly there would be no positive reason *for* Brian to perform the song, given that he had no involvement in the record.

Personally, though, I wouldn't want to hear them play Kokomo anyway. It's not an especially good song, Brian and David weren't on it at all, and Al isn't at all audible on the record, didn't have any creative input into it and doesn't seem to like it.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on May 07, 2013, 04:09:40 PM
"I thought Kokomo was really great." - Brian Wilson

I'm just shocked he HASN'T done it live.

The whole way Brian's solo shows are marketed though is that it's the 'arty', 'classy' show where you're going to see a real genius being a genius singing his genius genius without any of that evil Mike Love commercialism...

Yeah, so it makes sense he does Monster Mash, Drive-In, Salt Lake City etc instead of Kokomo.....the real artistic triumphs.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: AndrewHickey on May 07, 2013, 04:12:49 PM
"I thought Kokomo was really great." - Brian Wilson

I'm just shocked he HASN'T done it live.

The whole way Brian's solo shows are marketed though is that it's the 'arty', 'classy' show where you're going to see a real genius being a genius singing his genius genius without any of that evil Mike Love commercialism...

Yeah, so it makes sense he does Monster Mash, Drive-In, Salt Lake City etc instead of Kokomo.....the real artistic triumphs.

I'm not saying the shows have any actual relation to the marketing. What I am saying is that a substantial proportion of the Brianista contingent will go away from a show *thinking* it was like that so long as nothing too associated with Mike Love happens.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: filledeplage on May 07, 2013, 04:24:38 PM
"I thought Kokomo was really great." - Brian Wilson
I'm just shocked he HASN'T done it live.
The whole way Brian's solo shows are marketed though is that it's the 'arty', 'classy' show where you're going to see a real genius being a genius singing his genius genius without any of that evil Mike Love commercialism...
They did Kokomo during C50 and Brian seemed to love seeing all the generations just meld under the influence of the music, and rock out all together.  It was connected with a blockbuster movie.  It would be a very cool addition to any setlist and I hope Brian, Al and David do. It is just such a fun song. 

We don't have to be arty 24/7; it's just too much work. 

Brian's shows, too, have a fun "party aspect."
I'm not saying they don't, or that they *should* be "arty 24/7", but that that's how they're marketed. A substantial proportion of Brian's audience think Mike Love is the devil (in a couple of cases I think they actually think this literally) and that Kokomo is everything they hate. And certainly there would be no positive reason *for* Brian to perform the song, given that he had no involvement in the record.

Personally, though, I wouldn't want to hear them play Kokomo anyway. It's not an especially good song, Brian and David weren't on it at all, and Al isn't at all audible on the record, didn't have any creative input into it and doesn't seem to like it.
Andrew - I was agreeing with you.  Al and Carl were on Kokomo.  And it was a huge hit, alongside the goofy Fat Boys Wipe Out, and, for me the "Boys were back in town!"  At the time, I was teaching four year olds who came into my classroom singing,"Aruba, Jamaica..." and they were really in the right place to be singing the Beach Boys...

Just because someone is not on a particular song, doesn't mean they can't perform it.  Dave performed Pet Sounds, the Instrumental, at C50, and he wasn't on that. But he swung right into it as though he never missed a beat.  Music is their bridge and working on each other's stuff, is such respect for the other's art.  It's all good.   ;)


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Lowbacca on May 07, 2013, 05:23:40 PM
"I thought Kokomo was really great." - Brian Wilson

I'm just shocked he HASN'T done it live.

The whole way Brian's solo shows are marketed though is that it's the 'arty', 'classy' show where you're going to see a real genius being a genius singing his genius genius without any of that evil Mike Love commercialism...

Yeah, so it makes sense he does Monster Mash, Drive-In, Salt Lake City etc instead of Kokomo.....the real artistic triumphs.
That's not what AH was getting at. Those songs do not have nearly the 'reputation' "Kokomo" has with 'Brianistas'.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Wirestone on May 07, 2013, 05:44:29 PM
"I thought Kokomo was really great." - Brian Wilson

I'm just shocked he HASN'T done it live.

The whole way Brian's solo shows are marketed though is that it's the 'arty', 'classy' show where you're going to see a real genius being a genius singing his genius genius without any of that evil Mike Love commercialism...

Yeah, so it makes sense he does Monster Mash, Drive-In, Salt Lake City etc instead of Kokomo.....the real artistic triumphs.

If you are actually putting those latter two on a par with "Kokomo" we'll need to have some words.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on May 07, 2013, 06:40:40 PM
Also, "Drive-In" and "Salt Lake City" are Brian Wilson compositions.  As for "Monster Mash," it was a staple of Beach Boys live shows in the early sixties, when the band was at its most popular and Brian was at his most active in the group so it probably brings back good memories for him.

I do hope they'll do "Getcha Back" since it was a nice showcase for Dave on the Beach Boys tour.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: leggo of my ego on May 07, 2013, 07:09:22 PM
"I thought Kokomo was really great." - Brian Wilson

He liked Mount Vernon & Fairway too.

I listened to Kokomo this afternoon on GV boxset....I think I like Mount Vernon better.

I dont know, Kokomo gets you kind of groovin at first -- but before its over you wish it would end.   ;D


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on May 07, 2013, 07:34:15 PM
"I thought Kokomo was really great." - Brian Wilson

I'm just shocked he HASN'T done it live.

The whole way Brian's solo shows are marketed though is that it's the 'arty', 'classy' show where you're going to see a real genius being a genius singing his genius genius without any of that evil Mike Love commercialism...

Yeah, so it makes sense he does Monster Mash, Drive-In, Salt Lake City etc instead of Kokomo.....the real artistic triumphs.

If you are actually putting those latter two on a par with "Kokomo" we'll need to have some words.

Kokomo isn't bad! I like it as much as or possibly more than Drive In or Salt Lake City. It's only my take, but I see "Kokomo" as such a hated song only for the fact that it cemented the Beach Boys with their family/fun in the sun/tropical party persona with the public more than their artistic/groundbreaking side. I think since then there's been this huge stink to say, "if you think Kokomo is a good song, there's something wrong with you", or "Kokomo sucks! It isn't SMiLE", or something. It was such a phenomenally big record for a reason - it's catchy, it has nice vocals from Carl and Mike, it's fun.

Compare it with "Summer of Love" or anything off of SIP...now THAT is on par with nothing The Beach Boys did in pretty much any aspect of their careers.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Jason on May 07, 2013, 09:11:45 PM
A substantial proportion of Brian's audience think Mike Love is the devil (in a couple of cases I think they actually think this literally) and that Kokomo is everything they hate.

A substantial proportion of Brian's audience are elitist schmucks who listen to nothing BUT the Beach Boys.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Jim V. on May 07, 2013, 09:41:14 PM
A substantial proportion of Brian's audience think Mike Love is the devil (in a couple of cases I think they actually think this literally) and that Kokomo is everything they hate.

A substantial proportion of Brian's audience are elitist schmucks who listen to nothing BUT the Beach Boys.

And then there's the substantial proportion of the Smiley Smile moderators who call Mike Love "Michael" all the time for some odd reason, even though he's only called that sparingly by friends or bandmates. Odd.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Lonely Summer on May 07, 2013, 11:33:44 PM
I don't share the hatred of Kokomo that dominates this board. I guess it's popular to hate it because it's Mike's song, and Brian wasn't on it, but I think it deserved its hit status. It was always nice for me to hear the Beach Boys on the radio. When Still Cruisin' came out, I thought for sure it would be a top 40 hit - how could it fail as the followup to a worldwide #1?


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: MBE on May 08, 2013, 12:07:38 AM
Mike and Bruce did do Til I Die in 2004 I think in the UK.

Nah not a downer, she just saw what I saw. Of course it could be about anything, but for whatever reason he shut down for the one song that night.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on May 08, 2013, 01:00:30 AM
When Still Cruisin' came out, I thought for sure it would be a top 40 hit - how could it fail as the followup to a worldwide #1?

I actually like "Kokomo" and can see why it was a big hit even if it's not one of my favorites but "Still Cruisin'" is a better example of a really terrible Beach Boys song.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: D409 on May 08, 2013, 03:56:28 AM
It's unlikely that they'll play Kokomo. Brian, Al and David are not trying to take the license to tour as The Beach Boys away from Mike & Bruce, Brian is just playing some shows with Al and David as special guests. There may never be another reunion between the two camps. Enough !


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: leggo of my ego on May 08, 2013, 06:49:36 AM
No, never enough...Next thread: Will Mike and Bruce perform "Monkey's Uncle" as a Annette F. tribute?


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Letsgoawayforawhile on May 08, 2013, 07:11:59 AM
"I thought Kokomo was really great." - Brian Wilson

He liked Mount Vernon & Fairway too.

I listened to Kokomo this afternoon on GV boxset....I think I like Mount Vernon better.

I dont know, Kokomo gets you kind of groovin at first -- but before its over you wish it would end.   ;D

Could you imagine Brian playing Mount Vernon?
I would die a very happy man.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: leggo of my ego on May 08, 2013, 02:58:40 PM
"I thought Kokomo was really great." - Brian Wilson

He liked Mount Vernon & Fairway too.

I listened to Kokomo this afternoon on GV boxset....I think I like Mount Vernon better.

I dont know, Kokomo gets you kind of groovin at first -- but before its over you wish it would end.   ;D

Could you imagine Brian playing Mount Vernon?
I would die a very happy man.

 ^-^ Yes, and with Van Dyke as narrator.  ^-^


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Letsgoawayforawhile on May 08, 2013, 04:47:10 PM
"I thought Kokomo was really great." - Brian Wilson

He liked Mount Vernon & Fairway too.

I listened to Kokomo this afternoon on GV boxset....I think I like Mount Vernon better.

I dont know, Kokomo gets you kind of groovin at first -- but before its over you wish it would end.   ;D

Could you imagine Brian playing Mount Vernon?
I would die a very happy man.

 ^-^ Yes, and with Van Dyke as narrator.  ^-^

My head would explode.
TOO MUCH AWESOME!


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Shady on May 08, 2013, 07:08:10 PM
At the C50 show I attended Kokomo (and rock and roll music for that matter) brought the show to a screeching halt. It's pretty awful live.

For the reason alone it shouldn't be played. I'm pro Kokomo btw, it's a nice summer song.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on May 08, 2013, 07:45:36 PM
At the C50 show I attended Kokomo (and rock and roll music for that matter) brought the show to a screeching halt. It's pretty awful live.

I agree, it felt awkwardly out of place.  If they put it earlier in the set, maybe it would sound better but it just doesn't work as an encore at all.  It's too mellow.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Melt Away on May 09, 2013, 07:56:28 AM
Yeah, I really doubt they'll play it. Honestly, I hope they don't as well lol. I want to hear some Love You cuts or MAYBE Don't Fight The Sea??


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: leggo of my ego on May 09, 2013, 09:02:39 AM
At the C50 show I attended Kokomo (and rock and roll music for that matter) brought the show to a screeching halt. It's pretty awful live.

sampled steel drums via Darien eh?


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Jason on May 09, 2013, 10:25:25 AM
A substantial proportion of Brian's audience think Mike Love is the devil (in a couple of cases I think they actually think this literally) and that Kokomo is everything they hate.

A substantial proportion of Brian's audience are elitist schmucks who listen to nothing BUT the Beach Boys.

And then there's the substantial proportion of the Smiley Smile moderators who call Mike Love "Michael" all the time for some odd reason, even though he's only called that sparingly by friends or bandmates. Odd.

I'm sorry if it's the cause of any overbearing grief.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Rocker on May 09, 2013, 01:32:20 PM
Before C50 I had wondered and hoped that they'd let David do a surf instrumental like "Stoked" or something like that. Of course I was more than happy with "Pet sounds". And although I guess he'll more likely play "Pet sounds" with Brian and Al, I'd still think "Surf jam" - for example - would be great


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Jim V. on May 09, 2013, 04:47:47 PM
A substantial proportion of Brian's audience think Mike Love is the devil (in a couple of cases I think they actually think this literally) and that Kokomo is everything they hate.

A substantial proportion of Brian's audience are elitist schmucks who listen to nothing BUT the Beach Boys.

And then there's the substantial proportion of the Smiley Smile moderators who call Mike Love "Michael" all the time for some odd reason, even though he's only called that sparingly by friends or bandmates. Odd.

I'm sorry if it's the cause of any overbearing grief.

I'll live. Hopefully.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Awesoman on May 09, 2013, 06:08:12 PM
Brian singing Kokomo would be like Slash's band performing November Rain.  ;D

Except "November Rain" is actually one of their more worthwhile songs.

Also, no, I'm sure people who are not Al, Brian or David would prevent such a thing from happening.

Actually it might be interesting to hear Albriandavid perform "November Rain"...Marks could perform the "surf guitar" version of Slash's solo.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: lee on May 16, 2013, 01:10:02 PM
The only thing I like about Kokomo is Carl's vocal so personally, I'd rather they not perform it. It's not a bad song but considering their catalog, there are at least 50 other songs I'd rather them play. It would be nice if they perform Forever with Dave on vocals.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Cabinessenceking on May 16, 2013, 01:58:57 PM
A substantial proportion of Brian's audience think Mike Love is the devil (in a couple of cases I think they actually think this literally) and that Kokomo is everything they hate.

A substantial proportion of Brian's audience are elitist schmucks who listen to nothing BUT the Beach Boys.

good generalization right there.


seriously how did this dude get his position?


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: filledeplage on May 16, 2013, 02:13:33 PM
At the C50 show I attended Kokomo (and rock and roll music for that matter) brought the show to a screeching halt. It's pretty awful live.

For the reason alone it shouldn't be played. I'm pro Kokomo btw, it's a nice summer song.

Shady - where was the show where Kokomo brought the show to a screeching halt?

The contrary was my experience...seemed they all grooved out where I was... ;)

All that great percussion of C50 with Cowsill  :drum 

And Bragg?  :drumroll

It rocked I thought!


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform
Post by: drbeachboy on May 16, 2013, 03:45:08 PM
Kokomo went over fine with the audiences at the shows that I attended. Shady, are you sure that it was just your song hatred swaying your outlook when it was played? ;)


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform
Post by: AndrewHickey on May 16, 2013, 04:00:32 PM
Kokomo went over fine with the audiences at the shows that I attended. Shady, are you sure that it was just your song hatred swaying your outlook when it was played? ;)

Shady's in Ireland, assuming that's an accurate profile, and so was probably at one of the UK gigs. Kokomo never goes down well here -- it was never a hit and no-one knows it -- and it did absolutely kill the momentum stone dead at Wembley when they did it as an encore. It worked far better the way they used to do it in UK shows, where it would come after a bunch of rarities and album tracks and before the rest of the hits, but even then it was never one the audiences over here went for.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform
Post by: drbeachboy on May 16, 2013, 05:02:39 PM
It is slower than the other songs in the encore, but over here people love to sing along to it, so it works. I agree though that it would be better as you describe how they did it for you guys in the past.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Cliff1000uk on May 17, 2013, 07:03:41 AM
I was at both The Albert Hall and Wembley gigs and people near where I was sat started leaving when they played Kokomo. The funniest sight, though, was seeing lots of people scurrying back to their seats when Brian came back out to do Summer's Gone at TAH.

I wonder if there is actually a good place to put Kokomo in the set. It definitely belongs there but just seemed out of place in the C50 set. Maybe they should have included Make It Big, Wipeout and Problem Child!!


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Lowbacca on May 17, 2013, 07:08:55 AM
I was at both The Albert Hall and Wembley gigs and people near where I was sat started leaving when they played Kokomo. The funniest sight, though, was seeing lots of people scurrying back to their seats when Brian came back out to do Summer's Gone at TAH.

I wonder if there is actually a good place to put Kokomo in the set. It definitely belongs there but just seemed out of place in the C50 set. Maybe they should have included Make It Big, Wipeout and Problem Child!!
"Problem Child" is a cool song but (to me, at least) - like "Kokomo" - heavily relies on Carl's vocal for its charm and quality.
I think the "Kokomo" studio version is nice enough but played live it doesn't do anything for me.


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: AndrewHickey on May 17, 2013, 07:43:31 AM
I was at both The Albert Hall and Wembley gigs and people near where I was sat started leaving when they played Kokomo. The funniest sight, though, was seeing lots of people scurrying back to their seats when Brian came back out to do Summer's Gone at TAH.

I wonder if there is actually a good place to put Kokomo in the set. It definitely belongs there but just seemed out of place in the C50 set. Maybe they should have included Make It Big, Wipeout and Problem Child!!

I don't think the people leaving was because of Kokomo as such -- at Wembley I think the show was just longer than people expected. I noticed a lot of people leaving straight after very popular songs toward the end -- a *LOT* of people round me left after they played Wouldn't It Be Nice, for example, like they'd been waiting for that one song and could then go.

As for where a good place for Kokomo is -- while I don't like the song much, it worked well in the 2008 sets when it went:
40. All This Is That
41. 'Til I Die
42. Disney Girls
43. Kokomo
44. Cottonfields
45. California Girls
46. Help Me Rhonda

Coming out of the more meditative part of the set, and going into the hits, it made a decent transition, and certainly didn't sap the energy of the crowd the way it does in other places.

(One of the funniest things I can remember, actually, is seeing an outdoor Mike & Bruce gig in 2001, when there was torrential rain right through the early part of the set. The band hit the first notes of Wouldn't It Be Nice, and the rain stopped entirely as soon as the notes were played, and it stayed dry through that, Sloop John B, God Only Knows and Good Vibrations. Then Kokomo started and the downpour began again...)


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Cliff1000uk on May 17, 2013, 07:53:50 AM
I was at both The Albert Hall and Wembley gigs and people near where I was sat started leaving when they played Kokomo. The funniest sight, though, was seeing lots of people scurrying back to their seats when Brian came back out to do Summer's Gone at TAH.

I wonder if there is actually a good place to put Kokomo in the set. It definitely belongs there but just seemed out of place in the C50 set. Maybe they should have included Make It Big, Wipeout and Problem Child!!

I don't think the people leaving was because of Kokomo as such -- at Wembley I think the show was just longer than people expected. I noticed a lot of people leaving straight after very popular songs toward the end -- a *LOT* of people round me left after they played Wouldn't It Be Nice, for example, like they'd been waiting for that one song and could then go.

As for where a good place for Kokomo is -- while I don't like the song much, it worked well in the 2008 sets when it went:
40. All This Is That
41. 'Til I Die
42. Disney Girls
43. Kokomo
44. Cottonfields
45. California Girls
46. Help Me Rhonda

Coming out of the more meditative part of the set, and going into the hits, it made a decent transition, and certainly didn't sap the energy of the crowd the way it does in other places.

(One of the funniest things I can remember, actually, is seeing an outdoor Mike & Bruce gig in 2001, when there was torrential rain right through the early part of the set. The band hit the first notes of Wouldn't It Be Nice, and the rain stopped entirely as soon as the notes were played, and it stayed dry through that, Sloop John B, God Only Knows and Good Vibrations. Then Kokomo started and the downpour began again...)

Andrew-you're probably right about people leaving-I just noticed it more during Kokomo. I was looking at the setlists and the only places I could think of it going was after Getcha Back in the first set or maybe after Summer's Gone in the second set but that would have been before Forever.
That 2008 set (Hammersmith Apollo?) was outstanding. I had 2 friends with me who knew the hits but went and bought Sunflower and Holland off the back of that gig.
That story is quite funny-reminds me of BW doing Glastonbury and it stopped raining almost the instant he started his set. Was it BW at Kenwood that it downpoured the entire set?


Title: Re: Will Brian. Al, and David perform \
Post by: Micha on May 18, 2013, 11:30:02 AM
Before C50 I had wondered and hoped that they'd let David do a surf instrumental like "Stoked" or something like that. Of course I was more than happy with "Pet sounds". And although I guess he'll more likely play "Pet sounds" with Brian and Al, I'd still think "Surf jam" - for example - would be great

Surf Jam - Rocker, I'm 100% with you there! One of my all-time favorite surf instrumentals!






I want a Brian/David/Al live version of Kokomo on MIC instead of the studio version! ;D