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Title: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Eric Aniversario on March 14, 2013, 11:45:57 AM
It seems like no one wants to start this one, so I'll get it started!  Overall, a good attempt by the Boys to continue in the Kokomo-style vein, although probably 3 years too late.

1.  Hot Fun In The Summertime - Always in my top 3 faves of this album, it has stood the test of time more than the others.  Of course, it pales in comparison to the original, but still fun in its own way.
2.  Under The Boardwalk - Nice mellow feel to it...it really does remind me of summer days in Oceanside.
3.  Island Fever - I always thought this would have made a good single if promoted right.  If it had been featured on Baywatch in 1992, instead of Summer Of Love in 1995, it would have had a chance.
4.  Strange Things Happen - This would have had some radio appeal too.  The edited UK version could have been a radio hit.
5.  Summer In Paradise - Yeah the lyrics are a bit corny, but I've always liked this song.  Great live too.
6.  Still Surfin - A former favorite, this one hasn't really stood the test of time as much as the others.
7.  Lahaina Aloha - Great vocals from Carl on this one.
8.  Slow Summer Dancin (One Summer Night) - Nice to have a Bruce lead in the 90's, but he is definitely outshone by Al on his part.
9.  Summer Of Love - So hilariously bad, it actually is more enjoyable than other tracks on the album.  Should not have been on Baywatch though.
10.  Forever - Doesn't hold a candle to Dennis' lead, but the beauty of the song is still there.  Great vocals by Carl toward the end.
11.  Surfin - Kind of lame, I was one of the fans who was shocked that Mike & Bruce & Adrian wanted to remake it again in the early 2000s.
12.  Remember Walkin In The Sand - A pointless vocal exercise for Carl; you can hear the frustration in his voice.  The clobbering bass vocals are truly weird.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: punkinhead on March 14, 2013, 11:57:40 AM
It seems like no one wants to start this one, so I'll get it started!  Overall, a good attempt by the Boys to continue in the Kokomo-style vein, although probably 3 years too late.

1.  Hot Fun In The Summertime - Always in my top 3 faves of this album, it has stood the test of time more than the others.  Of course, it pales in comparison to the original, but still fun in its own way.
2.  Under The Boardwalk - Nice mellow feel to it...it really does remind me of summer days in Oceanside.
3.  Island Fever - I always thought this would have made a good single if promoted right.  If it had been featured on Baywatch in 1992, instead of Summer Of Love in 1995, it would have had a chance.
4.  Strange Things Happen - This would have had some radio appeal too.  The edited UK version could have been a radio hit.
5.  Summer In Paradise - Yeah the lyrics are a bit corny, but I've always liked this song.  Great live too.
6.  Still Surfin - A former favorite, this one hasn't really stood the test of time as much as the others.
7.  Lahaina Aloha - Great vocals from Carl on this one.
8.  Slow Summer Dancin (One Summer Night) - Nice to have a Bruce lead in the 90's, but he is definitely outshone by Al on his part.
9.  Summer Of Love - So hilariously bad, it actually is more enjoyable than other tracks on the album.  Should not have been on Baywatch though.
10.  Forever - Doesn't hold a candle to Dennis' lead, but the beauty of the song is still there.  Great vocals by Carl toward the end.
11.  Surfin - Kind of lame, I was one of the fans who was shocked that Mike & Bruce & Adrian wanted to remake it again in the early 2000s.
12.  Remember Walkin In The Sand - A pointless vocal exercise for Carl; you can hear the frustration in his voice.  The clobbering bass vocals are truly weird.
They wanted to remake Surfin? In what style from 2000? EMO?  ;)

Good to see Island Fever high up there, not too many favor that one, but I do.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Eric Aniversario on March 14, 2013, 11:58:57 AM


Good to see Island Fever high up there, not too many favor that one, but I do.

Used to be my favorite!  Still up there though


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on March 14, 2013, 11:59:11 AM
Admission time...I've never listened to the album all the way through. I'm going to in a little while, and then do it.

Sigh.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Eric Aniversario on March 14, 2013, 12:06:08 PM
Admission time...I've never listened to the album all the way through. I'm going to in a little while, and then do it.

Sigh.
You may be pleasantly surprised.  Listen with a Cool Head and a Warm Heart and you should be ok.  :quote


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: AndrewHickey on March 14, 2013, 12:07:25 PM
They wanted to remake Surfin? In what style from 2000? EMO?  ;)

Good to see Island Fever high up there, not too many favor that one, but I do.

Bruce said around 2002 that they had asked the people who made the Macarena to do a remix of the SIP version of Surfin' "In a Britney Spears style", for possible use as a fortieth-anniversary release. I presume that's what Eric was referring to.

Maybe that'll see the light on Made In California ;)


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: AndrewHickey on March 14, 2013, 12:08:45 PM
Admission time...I've never listened to the album all the way through. I'm going to in a little while, and then do it.

Sigh.

Don't. Do something more productive and fun, like reading through every post newguy ever made here, or smashing your own fingers with a mallet.

The only positive thing I could ever say about that album is that it's not Looking Back With Love or Going Public.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: punkinhead on March 14, 2013, 12:09:26 PM
They wanted to remake Surfin? In what style from 2000? EMO?  ;)

Good to see Island Fever high up there, not too many favor that one, but I do.

Bruce said around 2002 that they had asked the people who made the Macarena to do a remix of the SIP version of Surfin' "In a Britney Spears style", for possible use as a fortieth-anniversary release. I presume that's what Eric was referring to.

Maybe that'll see the light on Made In California ;)
gag?


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Paulos on March 14, 2013, 12:09:31 PM
I kind of like the title track apart from the lyrics. The rest is the audio equivalent of rape.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Eric Aniversario on March 14, 2013, 12:09:34 PM
They wanted to remake Surfin? In what style from 2000? EMO?  ;)

Good to see Island Fever high up there, not too many favor that one, but I do.

Bruce said around 2002 that they had asked the people who made the Macarena to do a remix of the SIP version of Surfin' "In a Britney Spears style", for possible use as a fortieth-anniversary release. I presume that's what Eric was referring to.

Maybe that'll see the light on Made In California ;)
Yeah that's what I was referring to...let's hope it doesn't make it onto MIC though!  :lol


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on March 14, 2013, 12:16:44 PM
Admission time...I've never listened to the album all the way through. I'm going to in a little while, and then do it.

Sigh.

Don't. Do something more productive and fun, like reading through every post newguy ever made here, or smashing your own fingers with a mallet.

The only positive thing I could ever say about that album is that it's not Looking Back With Love or Going Public.

I actually really LIKE LBWL *runs away*


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on March 14, 2013, 12:19:18 PM
Don't blame Mike for this one. He (and Terry Melcher) contributed a handful of good songs. Brian was a no-show. He was saving his songs for.....What was he saving his songs for?

1. Lahaina Aloha (easily the best song on the album and maybe - maybe - a BB classic)

2. Hot Fun In The Summertime
3. Summer In Paradise (this is a very good song and Mike sings it very well)

4. Strange Things Happen (I like the experimenting they did with this type of song)
5. Slow Summer Dancin' (One Summer Night)
6. Still Surfin'

7. Island Fever 
8. Forever (I like this version; reminds me of Chicago; Carl is magnificent)
9. Under The Boardwalk (one verse too long)

10. Remember Walkin' In The sand

11. Surfin'
12. Summer Of Love (the worst released song in the history of The Beach Boys)


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: smilethebeachboysloveyou on March 14, 2013, 12:29:38 PM
Admission time...I've never listened to the album all the way through. I'm going to in a little while, and then do it.

Sigh.

Don't. Do something more productive and fun, like reading through every post newguy ever made here, or smashing your own fingers with a mallet.

The only positive thing I could ever say about that album is that it's not Looking Back With Love or Going Public.

I actually really LIKE LBWL *runs away*

I wouldn't say I really like it, but most of the songs are listenable but inessential.  Apart from the title track.  That cannot, however, be said of Summer in Paradise.

1.) Lahaina Aloha--It says something about the quality of the album that the best song can only reach the average quality of a Still Cruisin' original track.
2.) Strange Things Happen--Terrible lyrics, and the melody isn't too great either, but Al's vocal is actually pretty good here.

I'm not sure how to rank the middling tracks, and many of the songs are pretty indistinguishable anyway.

10.) Surfin'--If this was their attempt to modernize "Surfin'," they clearly didn't have much respect for contemporary music circa 1992.
11.) Summer of Love--At least "Smart Girls" was kind of funny.
12.) Forever--Isn't grave defilement illegal?


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: drbeachboy on March 14, 2013, 12:38:58 PM
I see this "essential", "non-essential". This is fine when putting out a greatest hits package for the masses. But, what does it have to do with being listenable or not? If I like something, that means "listenable", not listenable; I don't like it. I like most of SIP. It sounds 90's to me; it's listenable!


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Smilin Ed H on March 14, 2013, 12:39:03 PM
01.  Still Surfin' (like the melancholy feel)
02.  Strange Things Happen (like Carl and Al's voices)
03.  Summer in Paradise (like the version released in Europe)

The rest is tiresome at best and shitty at worst.  Glad Brian wasn't involved in this mess. Pity the others were.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Freddie French-Pounce on March 14, 2013, 12:57:08 PM
The order for the two different Editions (I got both at bargain prices!) is different due to the Island Fever remix being far superior, but I'll do the UK version since I'm English.

1) Lahaina Aloha - Carl makes this otherwise cheesy song just beautiful
2) Strange Things Happen - The chorus is brilliant when Al comes in!
3) Remember - okay, controversial I know, but I do enjoy this song. Bar the echo on remember and the robotic remember.
4) Summer In Paradise - Fun, but my dad got angry when he heard Roger McGuinn on this.
5) Summer Of Love - I love it, No matter how god awful it is. My friend and I are the only people who know most of the moves from the video by heart xD
6) Still Surfin' - Lyrics are sooooo mike it's untrue. But i has something there.
7) Island Fever - Doctor Doctor is uber cringe, but the rest is just Kokomo Pt. 2 but almost better!
8) Slow Summer Dancin' - Okay it's Historical. Okay, it's schmaltzy. But it's Bruce and Al. yay.
9) Under The Boardwalk - The bridge being regained here is crucial, but ti's still quite weak.
10) Forever - Hmmmm... then I remember Dennis. No. Too many babies!!!
11) Hot Fun In the Summertime - never could get this track
12) Surfin' - No. No. No. No. Maybe. It'll do. NOT TRACK 2 THOUGH.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: hypehat on March 14, 2013, 01:00:05 PM
oh god Billy don't do it


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: drbeachboy on March 14, 2013, 01:10:10 PM
Let's see:

 1 Lahaina Aloha
 2 Strange Things Happen
 3 Hot Fun In The Summertime
 4 Slow Summer Dancin'
 5 Forever
 6 Still Surfin'
 7 Remember (Walkin' In The Sand)
 8 Summer In Paradise
 9 Surfin'
10 Under The Boardwalk
11 Island Fever
12 Summer Of Love

Just the vocal work from Carl & Al alone, saved this album. I find the album OK. Replace the last 4 tracks that I have listed and maybe it would be better than OK.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: SMiLE Brian on March 14, 2013, 01:53:03 PM
oh god Billy don't do it
Repost your review as a warning for all.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: oldsurferdude on March 14, 2013, 01:55:51 PM
Vomit inducing, regurgitated material. A pathetic waste of cardboard and plastic as well. The absolute nadir of their career.  :o :o :o :o :o


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: TimmyC on March 14, 2013, 02:10:58 PM
Lahaina Aloha and Strange Things happen rank as two of my all time favorite BB tracks.

Island fever, SIP, and one summer night are all all pretty good too.

The remakes are absolutely god awful, and the rest is harmless background music....

its really not THAT bad.... it's no better or worse overall than MIU, for instance... and actually lahaina aloha and strange things happen blow away anything else on MIU....


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Mike's Beard on March 14, 2013, 02:18:26 PM
What bugs me about SIP is that with a halfway decent production, the removal of the shitty remakes and the odd lyrical rewrite it could have worked. Much of the original new material had potential.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Wah Wah Wah Ooooo on March 14, 2013, 02:25:34 PM
1. Lahaina Aloha.  I really like this song. Carl's vocal is, as usual, stellar.
2. Strange Things Happen. Terrible lyrics, but Al and Carl carry it with pretty great vocals.
3. Summer In Paradise.  I really prefer this song with the additional verse  (McGuinn?) that Bruce sang live.

4. Hot Fun In The Summertime. 
5. One Summer Night. Al and Bruce both sound pretty good on this track.

6-8. Island Fever, Boardwalk, Forever and Still Surfin' are all interchangeable and completely forgettable.

The rest is so bad that I consider it completely unlistenable. The Surfin' remake is garbage and Summer Of Love is, to me, without question the worst thing ever written and recorded in the entire Beach Boys cannon, as a band or a solo artists.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Cabinessenceking on March 14, 2013, 03:02:00 PM
Admission time...I've never listened to the album all the way through. I'm going to in a little while, and then do it.

Sigh.

Don't. Do something more productive and fun, like reading through every post newguy ever made here, or smashing your own fingers with a mallet.

The only positive thing I could ever say about that album is that it's not Looking Back With Love or Going Public.

I actually really LIKE LBWL *runs away*

oh really? *chases after with pitchfork*


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Tord on March 14, 2013, 03:13:04 PM
 1  Island Fever
 2  Summer of Love
 3  Still Surfin'
 4  Lahaina Aloha
 5  Forever
 6  Summer in Paradise
 7  Under the Boardwalk
 8  Slow Summer Dancin'
 9  Hot Fun in the Summertime
10 Surfin'
11 Remember (Walkin' in the Sand)
12 Strange Things Happen


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 14, 2013, 04:33:02 PM
Most of the tracks are just rank. ;D


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: smilethebeachboysloveyou on March 14, 2013, 04:39:03 PM
Most of the tracks are just rank. ;D

Excellent point.  It would be redundant to rank what is itself already rank.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: TimeToGetAlone on March 14, 2013, 05:04:09 PM
1. Lahaina Aloha
2. Forever
3. Summer in Paradise
4. Strange Things Happen 
5. Slow Summer Dancin' (One Summer Night)
6. Hot Fun in the Summertime
7. Still Surfin'
8. Island Fever
9.  Under the Boardwalk
10. Remember Walking in the Sand
11. Surfin'
12. Summer of Love

Lahaina Aloha is the only song I would go out of my way to revisit, but most of it is more uninspired and poorly produced than it is downright awful.  The singing from Carl in particular is a bright spot.   I'd still probably take this over much of the top 40 today, but that has more to do with my real distaste of that stuff.  I think the bottom two of my list can be both categorized as an irredeemable atrocity of a song, however.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: MBE on March 14, 2013, 05:24:33 PM
Better on the rare vinyl mix wise but still cold, dull, and rank. This was hard because crap is crap but I think I ranked them OK.
1 Hot Fun
2 Summer In Paradise
3 Strange Things Happen
4 Lahaina Aloha
5 Island Fever
6 Slow Summer
7 Forever
8 Summer of Love
9 Still Surfin'
10 Under The Boardwalk
11 Remember
12 Surfin


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: runnersdialzero on March 14, 2013, 09:03:23 PM
1) Strange Things Happen, because it's kind of tolerable (and may have been okay with better production) and because hearing Al Jardine confess to being a 50 year old virgin going through his first sexual experiences is pretty intense and soul-baring. Good for you, Al.
2) The song where Mike goes "ME-MUH-ME-MUH-ME-MUH-ME-MUH-ME-MUH-ME-MUH-ME-MUH-ME-MUH-ME-MUH-ME-MUH-ME-MUH-ME-MUH-ME-MUH", although to be fair, I'm not rating the rest of the song when I say that, just that part. I don't even know what song it is, I just think that part is hilarious/terrible.
3) Summer Of Love, because of how hilariously awful it is. A bit of entertainment value puts it above the rest. Anyone placing it near the bottom is a God damn liar.
4) everything else on the album in no order
5) the Surfin' re-recording, because it is the worst thing ever
6) Forever, because while I'd normally rank a dismal re-recording above the worst thing ever, it goes the extra mile by shitting all over a beautiful Dennis Wilson song with a Full House cast member singing it, thereby becoming the true worst thing ever.

oh god Billy don't do it

This may be the best post ever.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Nicko1234 on March 15, 2013, 01:27:34 AM
1, Lahaina Aloha - A shame about the drum-heavy production as otherwise this is a strong song.

2, Summer in Paradise - Some weak lyrics but a fairly enjoyable song.
3, Strange Things Happen - Ditto and the U.K. version is preferable due to being shorter.
4, Under the Boardwalk - An inoffensive cover.

5, Island Fever - The U.K. version is preferable imo as the lyrics aren't quite so bad.
6, Slow Summer Dancing - More terrible drums. What was Terry Melcher thinking?
7, Forever - I know a lot of people who became fans of the group due to this one so not all bad.
8, Still Surfin' - Horrible drums again.
9, Hot Fun in the Summertime - An empty cover.

10, Surfin' - Remaking the song wasn't a bad idea but not like this...
11, Remember Walkin in the Sand - Pointless.

12, Summer of Love - Abysmal.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Jim V. on March 15, 2013, 08:25:33 AM
It's worth noting that as bad as this album is, its quite possible that even if Brian had participated and offered up a few of his songs, the album still woulda be utter sh*t, since the Brian material likely woulda been crap from Sweet Insanity. Although Summer In Paradise definitely coulda used something like "Love Ya" or "Water Builds Up", two of the few good songs on what would have been Sweet Insanity.

They wanted to remake Surfin? In what style from 2000? EMO?  ;)

Good to see Island Fever high up there, not too many favor that one, but I do.

Bruce said around 2002 that they had asked the people who made the Macarena to do a remix of the SIP version of Surfin' "In a Britney Spears style", for possible use as a fortieth-anniversary release. I presume that's what Eric was referring to.

Maybe that'll see the light on Made In California ;)

He really said that? Sometimes I think that Mike and Bruce are out of touch, but stuff like this, it's just......wow. This man has sung on "God Only Knows" and "Surf's Up", yet he wants a Beach Boys song "in a Britney Spears style". Then we had Mike, when early in preparations for the 50th anniversary celebration mentioned that he'd apparently like to do another Stars & Stripes type deal and have Kenny Chesney and Snoop Dogg do versions of Beach Boys songs. These guys just don't get it. And they apparently don't think that their work alone is worth anything. That they need today's stars to help drag them along.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: SMiLE Brian on March 15, 2013, 08:35:52 AM
Mike and Bruce are insane....

These two know nothing about the BBs legacy.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: smilethebeachboysloveyou on March 15, 2013, 09:20:22 AM
It's worth noting that as bad as this album is, its quite possible that even if Brian had participated and offered up a few of his songs, the album still woulda be utter sh*t, since the Brian material likely woulda been crap from Sweet Insanity. Although Summer In Paradise definitely coulda used something like "Love Ya" or "Water Builds Up", two of the few good songs on what would have been Sweet Insanity.

I have to admit that I like most of Sweet Insanity and have never understood why it has such a bad reputation.  Sure, "Smart Girls" is embarrassing, "Thank You" is awful and "I Do" is mediocre, but I like all of the other songs on the album.  Many of them are deliriously giddy, which I consider a good thing.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on March 15, 2013, 09:52:27 AM
It's worth noting that as bad as this album is, its quite possible that even if Brian had participated and offered up a few of his songs, the album still woulda be utter sh*t, since the Brian material likely woulda been crap from Sweet Insanity. Although Summer In Paradise definitely coulda used something like "Love Ya" or "Water Builds Up", two of the few good songs on what would have been Sweet Insanity.

They wanted to remake Surfin? In what style from 2000? EMO?  ;)

Good to see Island Fever high up there, not too many favor that one, but I do.

Bruce said around 2002 that they had asked the people who made the Macarena to do a remix of the SIP version of Surfin' "In a Britney Spears style", for possible use as a fortieth-anniversary release. I presume that's what Eric was referring to.

Maybe that'll see the light on Made In California ;)

He really said that? Sometimes I think that Mike and Bruce are out of touch, but stuff like this, it's just......wow. This man has sung on "God Only Knows" and "Surf's Up", yet he wants a Beach Boys song "in a Britney Spears style". Then we had Mike, when early in preparations for the 50th anniversary celebration mentioned that he'd apparently like to do another Stars & Stripes type deal and have Kenny Chesney and Snoop Dogg do versions of Beach Boys songs. These guys just don't get it. And they apparently don't think that their work alone is worth anything. That they need today's stars to help drag them along.
I would've killed to hear Snoop do a BB song...


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: joshferrell on March 15, 2013, 10:21:13 AM
It's worth noting that as bad as this album is, its quite possible that even if Brian had participated and offered up a few of his songs, the album still woulda be utter sh*t, since the Brian material likely woulda been crap from Sweet Insanity. Although Summer In Paradise definitely coulda used something like "Love Ya" or "Water Builds Up", two of the few good songs on what would have been Sweet Insanity.

They wanted to remake Surfin? In what style from 2000? EMO?  ;)

Good to see Island Fever high up there, not too many favor that one, but I do.

Bruce said around 2002 that they had asked the people who made the Macarena to do a remix of the SIP version of Surfin' "In a Britney Spears style", for possible use as a fortieth-anniversary release. I presume that's what Eric was referring to.

Maybe that'll see the light on Made In California ;)

He really said that? Sometimes I think that Mike and Bruce are out of touch, but stuff like this, it's just......wow. This man has sung on "God Only Knows" and "Surf's Up", yet he wants a Beach Boys song "in a Britney Spears style". Then we had Mike, when early in preparations for the 50th anniversary celebration mentioned that he'd apparently like to do another Stars & Stripes type deal and have Kenny Chesney and Snoop Dogg do versions of Beach Boys songs. These guys just don't get it. And they apparently don't think that their work alone is worth anything. That they need today's stars to help drag them along.
I would've killed to hear Snoop do a BB song...

Transcendental (yo) meditation
Can (yo) emancipate the man(yo)
A get you feeling grand (Yo)
Snoop: The bitches are good, theys good theys good fo' shizel

Fusion of (yo)
The never changing wind (yo)
The ever changing wind (yo)
The never changing world (Yo)
snoop: Pass this refer It's good, it's good, it's good, it's good, it's good

Transcendental meditation (yo)

Snoop: The bitches like...
Transcendental meditation

Can emancipate the ho
And get you feeling high
It's good (word)



Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on March 15, 2013, 10:23:39 AM
It's worth noting that as bad as this album is, its quite possible that even if Brian had participated and offered up a few of his songs, the album still woulda be utter sh*t, since the Brian material likely woulda been crap from Sweet Insanity. Although Summer In Paradise definitely coulda used something like "Love Ya" or "Water Builds Up", two of the few good songs on what would have been Sweet Insanity.

I have to admit that I like most of Sweet Insanity and have never understood why it has such a bad reputation.  Sure, "Smart Girls" is embarrassing, "Thank You" is awful and "I Do" is mediocre, but I like all of the other songs on the album.  Many of them are deliriously giddy, which I consider a good thing.

I'm with you, smilethebeachboysloveyou. If you take the best tracks from Summer in Paradise:

- Hot Fun In The Summertime
- Strange Things Happen
- Lahaina Aloha
- Slow Summer Dancin' (One Summer Night)
- Summer In Paradise
- Still Surfin'
- Island Fever
- Under The Boardwalk

And add these five tracks from Sweet Insanity:

- Someone To Love
- Don't Let Her Know She's An Angel
- The Spirit Of Rock And Roll
- Love Ya/Sweetie
- Water Builds Up

You have a drastically and far superior album. Keep in mind you would be ELIMINATING:

- Summer Of Love
- Remember Walkin' In The Sand
- Surfin'
- Forever

Try that NEW lineup; that's a respectable, fun, 13 song, summer-y album.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Jim V. on March 15, 2013, 10:41:48 AM
It's worth noting that as bad as this album is, its quite possible that even if Brian had participated and offered up a few of his songs, the album still woulda be utter sh*t, since the Brian material likely woulda been crap from Sweet Insanity. Although Summer In Paradise definitely coulda used something like "Love Ya" or "Water Builds Up", two of the few good songs on what would have been Sweet Insanity.

They wanted to remake Surfin? In what style from 2000? EMO?  ;)

Good to see Island Fever high up there, not too many favor that one, but I do.

Bruce said around 2002 that they had asked the people who made the Macarena to do a remix of the SIP version of Surfin' "In a Britney Spears style", for possible use as a fortieth-anniversary release. I presume that's what Eric was referring to.

Maybe that'll see the light on Made In California ;)

He really said that? Sometimes I think that Mike and Bruce are out of touch, but stuff like this, it's just......wow. This man has sung on "God Only Knows" and "Surf's Up", yet he wants a Beach Boys song "in a Britney Spears style". Then we had Mike, when early in preparations for the 50th anniversary celebration mentioned that he'd apparently like to do another Stars & Stripes type deal and have Kenny Chesney and Snoop Dogg do versions of Beach Boys songs. These guys just don't get it. And they apparently don't think that their work alone is worth anything. That they need today's stars to help drag them along.
I would've killed to hear Snoop do a BB song...

Please keep Mr. Snoop Lion far, far away from The Beach Boys. And this coming from a guy who owns and cherishes the Doggystyle album.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: gfac22 on March 15, 2013, 11:30:32 AM
I think SIP's reputation is a bit overblown, it's not THAT bad.  I've liked it ever since I got it for a (surprisingly) reasonable price on ebay a number of years ago.  In fact, I think a handful of the songs are BB classics.  Yeah, I said it.  Anyway:

1.  Lahaina Aloha - great vocals from both Mike and Carl.  Just a great song.
2.  Strange Things Happen - great (but short) Al vocal, too bad he isn't featured more on the album.
3.  Summer In Paradise - odd lyrics aside, great song.  I really love the chorus.
4.  Still Surfin'
5.  Under The Boardwalk - I actually think this works really nicely, drum machine and all.
6.  Island Fever - OK, not great.  I prefer the US version over the UK one.
7.  Slow Summer Dancin' - Another great Al vocal, but one of Bruce's duller songs.  (And this is Bruce we're talking about here...)  Nice, but forgettable.
8.  Hot Fun In The Summertime
9.  Remember (Walking In The Sand)
10.  Summer of Love - this is so dorky, I can't help but like it.  Definite guilty pleasure.
11.  Forever - yeah, it's stupid and pointless, but I have fond memories of this from Full House (which I loved as a kid, and I still love today, damn it.)  That said, I really like Carl's harmony part during the last verse.
12.  Surfin'

So yeah.  I'll always stick up for Summer In Paradise, even if I'm one of the few out there.  If people could get past the early 90s production and keep an open mind, I think they'd find a lot to like.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Letsgoawayforawhile on March 15, 2013, 04:01:40 PM
I've had many a fart that sound better than this record.
MANY.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: drbeachboy on March 15, 2013, 06:22:41 PM
I've had many a fart that sound better than this record.
MANY.
I thought you'd say "and stinks less". ;)


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Letsgoawayforawhile on March 15, 2013, 06:35:45 PM
I've had many a fart that sound better than this record.
MANY.
I thought you'd say "and stinks less". ;)

 :lol
Perfect.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: smilethebeachboysloveyou on March 15, 2013, 07:17:47 PM
It's worth noting that as bad as this album is, its quite possible that even if Brian had participated and offered up a few of his songs, the album still woulda be utter sh*t, since the Brian material likely woulda been crap from Sweet Insanity. Although Summer In Paradise definitely coulda used something like "Love Ya" or "Water Builds Up", two of the few good songs on what would have been Sweet Insanity.

I have to admit that I like most of Sweet Insanity and have never understood why it has such a bad reputation.  Sure, "Smart Girls" is embarrassing, "Thank You" is awful and "I Do" is mediocre, but I like all of the other songs on the album.  Many of them are deliriously giddy, which I consider a good thing.

I'm with you, smilethebeachboysloveyou. If you take the best tracks from Summer in Paradise:

- Hot Fun In The Summertime
- Strange Things Happen
- Lahaina Aloha
- Slow Summer Dancin' (One Summer Night)
- Summer In Paradise
- Still Surfin'
- Island Fever
- Under The Boardwalk

And add these five tracks from Sweet Insanity:

- Someone To Love
- Don't Let Her Know She's An Angel
- The Spirit Of Rock And Roll
- Love Ya/Sweetie
- Water Builds Up

You have a drastically and far superior album. Keep in mind you would be ELIMINATING:

- Summer Of Love
- Remember Walkin' In The Sand
- Surfin'
- Forever

Try that NEW lineup; that's a respectable, fun, 13 song, summer-y album.

I would prefer an 8-song, 29-minute Sweet Insanity with Someone to Love, Water Builds Up, Don't Let Her Know, Hotter, The Spirit of Rock and Roll, Rainbow Eyes, Love Ya, and Make a Wish.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: SonicVolcano on March 16, 2013, 05:14:26 AM
I don't have this album, but I do like the live version of Summer In Paradise. I really hate the lyrics, though.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Catbirdman on March 19, 2013, 05:46:43 AM
D
Lahaina Aloha
Summer of Love
Hot Fun in the Summertime

F
Strange Things Happen
Island Fever
Under the Boardwalk
Still Surfin'
Remember (Walking in the Sand)
Summer in Paradise

Not even an F would do it justice:
Slow Summer Dancin' (One Summer Night)

Lowest ever ring of the Inferno:
Surfin'

Even worse:
Forever


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Cabinessenceking on March 19, 2013, 06:55:44 AM
D
Lahaina Aloha
Summer of Love
Hot Fun in the Summertime

F
Strange Things Happen
Island Fever
Under the Boardwalk
Still Surfin'
Remember (Walking in the Sand)
Summer in Paradise

Not even an F would do it justice:
Slow Summer Dancin' (One Summer Night)

Lowest ever ring of the Inferno:
Surfin'

Even worse:
Forever


I only ever heard Forever and Summer of Love.

Forever must be the worst music ever made. Period. What to take a huge dump on somebody else' legacy.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: drbeachboy on March 19, 2013, 07:38:58 AM
D
Lahaina Aloha
Summer of Love
Hot Fun in the Summertime

F
Strange Things Happen
Island Fever
Under the Boardwalk
Still Surfin'
Remember (Walking in the Sand)
Summer in Paradise

Not even an F would do it justice:
Slow Summer Dancin' (One Summer Night)

Lowest ever ring of the Inferno:
Surfin'

Even worse:
Forever


I only ever heard Forever and Summer of Love.

Forever must be the worst music ever made. Period. What to take a huge dump on somebody else' legacy.
I'll bite, why? Basic arrangement- same. Background vocals- same. Background singers- same. Lyrics-- same. Oh, you mean because someone other than Dennis had the nerve to pay homage to him and his song? Is this like The Beach Boys taking a dump on Dick Dale, Frankie Lyman & The Teenagers and The Regents, because they decided to cover their biggest songs?


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: SMiLE Brian on March 19, 2013, 07:42:48 AM
Its because the song is looked at as Mike trying to make Stamos the "new" Dennis and disrespecting the song of a greatly missed member of the group.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: drbeachboy on March 19, 2013, 08:29:07 AM
Its because the song is looked at as Mike trying to make Stamos the "new" Dennis and disrespecting the song of a greatly missed member of the group.
He did the song for a TV show, then it was decided to include it on the new album. Kind of like adding Wipeout to Still Cruisin'. Also, it is one thing to not like the cover, but how is it "disrespecting" Dennis or the song? Do you really think the full band would have participated if this was the object of covering it? Does the green room video that we all have been watching show Carl, Al, Bruce and Stamos disrespecting the song while rehearsing?


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: hypehat on March 19, 2013, 09:27:34 AM
Dude, the arrangement and backing vocals are not the same as the original one. If you think that, you're deaf. They sound bloody terrible, to boot. Like the rest of this godforsaken record. This is like saying you prefer the re-recorded versions of 60's hits on cheap compilation CDs to the originals because they're recorded with modern technology or something.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: SMiLE Brian on March 19, 2013, 09:45:06 AM
Don't forget the video with the babies to top it all off.... ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQaf6Dhh8Zk


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: SMiLE Brian on March 19, 2013, 09:52:30 AM
Just (barely) got through the video, and so many problems:

1. the vocal blend was rank at that point.
2. Stamo's "Dennis-lite" voice is horrible
3. Outdated 1980s power-ballad sound
4. Video is plain bizzare
5. The BBs slapped their name on this crap



Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: drbeachboy on March 19, 2013, 09:53:05 AM
My name is not Dude. When I sing along with either version, I sing it the same way. When I hear or sing the background  vocals I sing the same My My My's etc. Like I said, you can dislike it for lots of reasons, but those reasons are not "Disrespecting" reasons. The whole album was made that way, not just Forever. How come I don't hear the same fervent clamor about Surfin'. It has all the same production values, etc. as Forever, but I don't hear same "Disrespecting" rhetoric. As far as I can tell from what I read here, is that it has more to do with Stamos envy, than anything else. Forever was not placed on SIP to disrespect the song or Dennis, for that matter.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: hypehat on March 19, 2013, 10:05:04 AM
Well, don't presume to tell me the reasons I hate this album are somehow wrong. I never said it's disrespectful, but I think it sounds absolutely terrifying and crap.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: SMiLE Brian on March 19, 2013, 10:09:39 AM
It wasn't meant to disrespect in the warped BBs world of 1992, but it is disrespectful in the eyes of the public due to its really poor execution.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Nicko1234 on March 19, 2013, 10:10:49 AM
The idea that this version of Forever is 'taking a dump on Dennis's legacy' is laughable. I've known plenty of people who have told me that Forever is one of their favourite BB songs after first hearing this version. It was Stamos that turned them onto the group and onto Dennis. Carl was right behind this cover and there is no doubt that the whole thing was done with utmost respect.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Nicko1234 on March 19, 2013, 10:12:01 AM
It wasn't meant to disrespect in the warped BBs world of 1992, but it is disrespectful in the eyes of the public due to its really poor execution.

Really? Would that be the same section of the public who like Stamos and who have even gone to watch M&B shows because they know he will be there?


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on March 19, 2013, 10:37:16 AM
Nicko1234 and drbeachboy are right. I can never understand the hate for Stamos when it comes to "Forever" and Dennis.

If you wanna hate Stamos for his participation with the Beach Boys - his stage antics, subpar musicianship, posturing, the Kokomo video, inviting them to his wedding, etc, -  OK, I get. I don't share the hate, but I get it.

But "Forever" and Dennis is an entirely different issue. Stamos could've latched onto Mike Love like Bruce did and preached the gospel about the great lyrics that Mike contributed to rock & roll history - but he didn't. Stamos could've bowed at the feet of "the great" Brian Wilson like everybody else did - but he didn't. And, Stamos could've easily sang the praises of the recognizable surf & turf classics, or, been the hip disciple of Pet Sounds and SMiLE. But he didn't.

Stamos chose Dennis Wilson. And, Stamos chose "Forever". A song from Sunflower. Keep in mind that around that time, most people knew the Beach Boys through the early hits and "Kokomo". Most fans (many who were younger) couldn't pick Dennis Wilson out of a lineup. Is it safe to say none of them owned Sunflower? This was before the boxed set. Do you think they ever heard "Forever"? I doubt it.

John Stamos invited the Beach Boys onto his TV shows. He might've even had to persuade some executives to do so. They wrote some scripts AROUND the group. The TV shows featured songs like "California Dreamin", "Kokomo", and"Forever". I'll bet the Beach Boys' record sales spiked at least a little bit after the shows aired. People got to know the song "Forever". People got to know about a Dennis Wilson song. Not just a Beach Boys' song but A Dennis Wilson song. Maybe that led to being a Dennis Wilson fan. Maybe that led to being a Pacific Ocean Blue fan. That would not have happened without John Stamos.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Quzi on March 19, 2013, 10:57:06 AM
1) Lahaina Aloha






2) Still Surfin' (Solely for the Spector-like intro and reprises. The rest is weak. I'd probably trim it down in length and put a de-nasal filter on Mike)

idk about the rest. I'm not too familiar with the record so I may give it another spin sometime today and work out the rest. Also, I've got to admit with Runners that "Summer of Love" is so bad that it's hilarious/ever so slightly redeemable.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Mike's Beard on March 19, 2013, 11:09:12 AM
Nicko1234 and drbeachboy are right. I can never understand the hate for Stamos when it comes to "Forever" and Dennis.

If you wanna hate Stamos for his participation with the Beach Boys - his stage antics, subpar musicianship, posturing, the Kokomo video, inviting them to his wedding, etc, -  OK, I get. I don't share the hate, but I get it.

But "Forever" and Dennis is an entirely different issue. Stamos could've latched onto Mike Love like Bruce did and preached the gospel about the great lyrics that Mike contributed to rock & roll history - but he didn't. Stamos could've bowed at the feet of "the great" Brian Wilson like everybody else did - but he didn't. And, Stamos could've easily sang the praises of the recognizable surf & turf classics, or, been the hip disciple of Pet Sounds and SMiLE. But he didn't.

Stamos chose Dennis Wilson. And, Stamos chose "Forever". A song from Sunflower. Keep in mind that around that time, most people knew the Beach Boys through the early hits and "Kokomo". Most fans (many who were younger) couldn't pick Dennis Wilson out of a lineup. Is it safe to say none of them owned Sunflower? This was before the boxed set. Do you think they ever heard "Forever"? I doubt it.

John Stamos invited the Beach Boys onto his TV shows. He might've even had to persuade some executives to do so. They wrote some scripts AROUND the group. The TV shows featured songs like "California Dreamin", "Kokomo", and"Forever". I'll bet the Beach Boys' record sales spiked at least a little bit after the shows aired. People got to know the song "Forever". People got to know about a Dennis Wilson song. Not just a Beach Boys' song but A Dennis Wilson song. Maybe that led to being a Dennis Wilson fan. Maybe that led to being a Pacific Ocean Blue fan. That would not have happened without John Stamos.

I wouldn't call it disrespectful, Stamos was a big Dennis fan and I'm sure had nothing but the best of intentions in covering "Forever". Still it's impossible to rate the end result as anything other than a steaming turd. It's like the bastard offspring of Guns n Roses "November Rain" meets Michael Bolton.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: drbeachboy on March 19, 2013, 11:16:15 AM
Well, don't presume to tell me the reasons I hate this album are somehow wrong. I never said it's disrespectful, but I think it sounds absolutely terrifying and crap.
First off, don't get pissy with me. I didn't post to get in a fight. I was responding to Smile Brian's use of "disrepecting", and you jumped into the conversation, which is fine, but what I posted was not directed toward you. As I said, I understand if you hate it for any number of reasons, but saying that adding it to SIP was disrespectful, when it is very doubtful that that was the intent, seemed a bit over the top.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: hypehat on March 19, 2013, 11:18:49 AM
Well, don't presume to tell me the reasons I hate this album are somehow wrong. I never said it's disrespectful, but I think it sounds absolutely terrifying and crap.
First off, don't get pissy with me. I didn't post to get in a fight. I was responding to Smile Brian's use of "disrepecting", and you jumped into the conversation, which is fine, but what I posted was not directed toward you. As I said, I understand if you hate it for any number of reasons, but saying that adding it to SIP was disrespectful, when it is very doubtful that that was the intent, seemed a bit over the top.

Sorry mate, you seemed to be talking to me! You responded directly with that 'my name is not dude' stuff - what was I supposed to think?

Mike's Beard on thee money. Good intentions are nice, but the result is absolutely awful.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: drbeachboy on March 19, 2013, 11:28:38 AM
Well, don't presume to tell me the reasons I hate this album are somehow wrong. I never said it's disrespectful, but I think it sounds absolutely terrifying and crap.
First off, don't get pissy with me. I didn't post to get in a fight. I was responding to Smile Brian's use of "disrepecting", and you jumped into the conversation, which is fine, but what I posted was not directed toward you. As I said, I understand if you hate it for any number of reasons, but saying that adding it to SIP was disrespectful, when it is very doubtful that that was the intent, seemed a bit over the top.

Sorry mate, you seemed to be talking to me! You responded directly with that 'my name is not dude' stuff - what was I supposed to think?

Mike's Beard on thee money. Good intentions are nice, but the result is absolutely awful.
I'm good, if you're good. Plus, how can I stay mad with the person who penned "The Brianista's Prayer".   :hat


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: filledeplage on March 19, 2013, 11:31:59 AM
Nicko1234 and drbeachboy are right. I can never understand the hate for Stamos when it comes to "Forever" and Dennis.

If you wanna hate Stamos for his participation with the Beach Boys - his stage antics, subpar musicianship, posturing, the Kokomo video, inviting them to his wedding, etc, -  OK, I get. I don't share the hate, but I get it.

But "Forever" and Dennis is an entirely different issue. Stamos could've latched onto Mike Love like Bruce did and preached the gospel about the great lyrics that Mike contributed to rock & roll history - but he didn't. Stamos could've bowed at the feet of "the great" Brian Wilson like everybody else did - but he didn't. And, Stamos could've easily sang the praises of the recognizable surf & turf classics, or, been the hip disciple of Pet Sounds and SMiLE. But he didn't.

Stamos chose Dennis Wilson. And, Stamos chose "Forever". A song from Sunflower. Keep in mind that around that time, most people knew the Beach Boys through the early hits and "Kokomo". Most fans (many who were younger) couldn't pick Dennis Wilson out of a lineup. Is it safe to say none of them owned Sunflower? This was before the boxed set. Do you think they ever heard "Forever"? I doubt it.

John Stamos invited the Beach Boys onto his TV shows. He might've even had to persuade some executives to do so. They wrote some scripts AROUND the group. The TV shows featured songs like "California Dreamin", "Kokomo", and"Forever". I'll bet the Beach Boys' record sales spiked at least a little bit after the shows aired. People got to know the song "Forever". People got to know about a Dennis Wilson song. Not just a Beach Boys' song but A Dennis Wilson song. Maybe that led to being a Dennis Wilson fan. Maybe that led to being a Pacific Ocean Blue fan. That would not have happened without John Stamos.

+1 - I don't get the hate, either.  Some YouTube version of Forever has over a million hits. Stamos did promote Dennis' work, and likely worked with the networks to have the cameos happen for the band.  Cameos which get slammed again and again, but kept the band name out there.  And, created goodwill that benefited all the band.  It gave another generation (now, more than one) an intro to BB music.  

Thanks for adding balance to the discussion.  


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: joshferrell on March 19, 2013, 11:36:01 AM
Ok..To me SIP is like 15 Big ones in the sense that it has a lot of cover tunes (Which I tend not to like), a couple good songs and the rest filler...

1.Lahaina Aloha (This is easily the best song on here, I call this the "Somewhere near japan" of SIP, a song that sticks out like a sore thumb,it also would not have been out of place if Brian and Van Dyke placed in on OCA because it has that similar sound to my ears)
2.Strange things happen (ok I admit the lyrics are goofy but the melody is one of the better ones from the cd and one of the few songs from it that stays in my head after listening to it and yes Als vocals rule on it)
3.Island Fever (Ok this song is not great but not bad, just average but I like the bass line and the chord changes and the vocals/harmonies)
4.Forever (Average, but I can see why they did it. it was what it was and nothing more, it was simply meant to bring the younger kids to their music, of course it didn't help the sells of the cd any. and let's face it it's a great Dennis Wilson song so I put it this high on the list mostly because of that fact)
the rest is the same with "Surfin" dead last, the first thing I thought when hearing "Surfin" and seeing that Brian wasn't anywhere on the cd was that they wanted their mandatory "Brian Wilson" song on it so since they didn't have one (a new one) they decided to take an old one and redo it that way Brian Wilsons name was somewhere on the cd, of course there were better BW songs they could have remade. Plus, why Rap? Rap sucks..lol...of course, like John Stamos, they recorded it to
reach the younger kids..


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: drbeachboy on March 19, 2013, 11:41:56 AM
Ok..To me SIP is like 15 Big ones in the sense that it has a lot of cover tunes (Which I tend not to like), a couple good songs and the rest filler...

1.Lahaina Aloha (This is easily the best song on here, I call this the "Somewhere near japan" of SIP, a song that sticks out like a sore thumb,it also would not have been out of place if Brian and Van Dyke placed in on OCA because it has that similar sound to my ears)
2.Strange things happen (ok I admit the lyrics are goofy but the melody is one of the better ones from the cd and one of the few songs from it that stays in my head after listening to it and yes Als vocals rule on it)
3.Island Fever (Ok this song is not great but not bad, just average but I like the bass line and the chord changes and the vocals/harmonies)
4.Forever (Average, but I can see why they did it. it was what it was and nothing more, it was simply meant to bring the younger kids to their music, of course it didn't help the sells of the cd any. and let's face it it's a great Dennis Wilson song so I put it this high on the list mostly because of that fact)
the rest is the same with "Surfin" dead last, the first thing I thought when hearing "Surfin" and seeing that Brian wasn't anywhere on the cd was that they wanted their mandatory "Brian Wilson" song on it so since they didn't have one (a new one) they decided to take an old one and redo it that way Brian Wilsons name was somewhere on the cd, of course there were better BW songs they could have remade. Plus, why Rap? Rap sucks..lol...of course, like John Stamos, they recorded it to
reach the younger kids..
If my recall is fairly accurate, I saw the band within days after the release of SIP. While I wasn't real thrilled with the Surfin' redo, it did sound pretty cool when done at the show with that arrangement.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on March 19, 2013, 12:39:25 PM
Nicko1234 and drbeachboy are right. I can never understand the hate for Stamos when it comes to "Forever" and Dennis.

If you wanna hate Stamos for his participation with the Beach Boys - his stage antics, subpar musicianship, posturing, the Kokomo video, inviting them to his wedding, etc, -  OK, I get. I don't share the hate, but I get it.

But "Forever" and Dennis is an entirely different issue. Stamos could've latched onto Mike Love like Bruce did and preached the gospel about the great lyrics that Mike contributed to rock & roll history - but he didn't. Stamos could've bowed at the feet of "the great" Brian Wilson like everybody else did - but he didn't. And, Stamos could've easily sang the praises of the recognizable surf & turf classics, or, been the hip disciple of Pet Sounds and SMiLE. But he didn't.

Stamos chose Dennis Wilson. And, Stamos chose "Forever". A song from Sunflower. Keep in mind that around that time, most people knew the Beach Boys through the early hits and "Kokomo". Most fans (many who were younger) couldn't pick Dennis Wilson out of a lineup. Is it safe to say none of them owned Sunflower? This was before the boxed set. Do you think they ever heard "Forever"? I doubt it.

John Stamos invited the Beach Boys onto his TV shows. He might've even had to persuade some executives to do so. They wrote some scripts AROUND the group. The TV shows featured songs like "California Dreamin", "Kokomo", and"Forever". I'll bet the Beach Boys' record sales spiked at least a little bit after the shows aired. People got to know the song "Forever". People got to know about a Dennis Wilson song. Not just a Beach Boys' song but A Dennis Wilson song. Maybe that led to being a Dennis Wilson fan. Maybe that led to being a Pacific Ocean Blue fan. That would not have happened without John Stamos.

I wouldn't call it disrespectful, Stamos was a big Dennis fan and I'm sure had nothing but the best of intentions in covering "Forever". Still it's impossible to rate the end result as anything other than a steaming turd. It's like the bastard offspring of Guns n Roses "November Rain" meets Michael Bolton.

I'm not saying this to be contrarian or argumentative, but I actually like the SIP version of "Forever". I mean, it's not great, and I don't seek it out, but I get some enjoyment out of it. Admittedly, Carl saves the track. His part, though short, is among his finest and most emotional work. I never understood how people could say that Stamos is imitating Dennis; that's just how Stamos sings. And, I accept the arrangement. It kind of reminds me of that Chicago power ballad era (with Jason Scheff and Bill Champlin). They (The Beach Boys) could've played it safe and really channeled Dennis but they didn't. I think Dennis would've accepted it and been honored by the tribute. Look, you know I always repeat myself  ;D but how many people were covering friggin Dennis Wilson songs anyway!


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: phirnis on March 23, 2013, 03:27:20 PM
To me this is very close to KTSA, both in terms of ambition and overall quality. Weak and cheesy but for some reason it still has its moments.

Great:
Lahaina Aloha

Enjoyable:
Strange Things Happen
Still Surfin'
Slow Summer Dancin'
Island Fever
Forever
Summer in Paradise

Forgettable:
Hot Fun in the Summertime
Remember (Walkin' in the Sand)
Under the Boardwalk

Utter junk:
Surfin'
Summer of Love


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Summer_Days on April 28, 2013, 07:09:20 AM
I don't own this album, and I never want to. I have heard it a few times, enough to generate a clear opinion of it. Here it is:

THIS ALBUM SUCKS SOOOO BAD THAT IT WOULD BE AN INSULT TO THIS FINE DISCUSSION FORUM TO EVEN WASTE SPACE RANKING THE #%$!&@ TRACKS. ALL OF THEM ARE SO BAD I CAN FEEL MY STOMACH GETTING QUEASY JUST THINKING ABOUT 'EM.


Thank you and have a nice, Summer in Paradise-free day.

(I'm off to vomit and then listen to MIU, which is dogcrap, but hell, it's practically Sunflower compared to this stinkbomb.....)


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: MaxL on April 28, 2013, 02:30:56 PM
I hope people don't peg me as being deliberately contrarian but I enjoy this album (most of it). Yeah it's far from artistic and sounds sterile as all hell in places but there's some good songs in there.

"Lahaina Aloha", "Strange Things Happen" and "Still Surfin" are my favourites. They conjure up nice images on top of being catchy.

"Island Fever"'s a pretty good song, ditto the title track. "Slow Summer Dancin'" (typical BJ) and "Under the Boardwalk" are nice part cover, part original songs (the latter channelling a Kokomo vibe like "Island Fever"). The other two covers are OK; "Remember..." is a little bit hilarious and "Hot Fun in the Summertime" is an odd choice for an album opener, let alone cover. I see why they included "Forever" ... I just wish they hadn't. It's not bad it's just ... I dunno, I'm conflicted. On paper I should hate the very idea of it but ... I just don't know. It's not the first BB's album to have a perverse closing track.

The "Surfin'" remake was totally misguided. Underneath the heinous new treatment it's still the fun, little "Surfin'", which is about the only redeeming quality to me. "Summer of Love" exists and we have to live with that.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Letsgoawayforawhile on May 04, 2013, 06:17:46 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-BEACH-BOYS-SUMMER-IN-PARADISE-WORLD-TOUR-WHITE-T-SHIRT-XL-X-LARGE-NEW-/370799745691?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5655631a9b


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: punkinhead on May 21, 2013, 03:59:56 PM
I can hear mike now calling Snoop: Snoop John B



 ;)


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: SMiLE Brian on May 21, 2013, 07:10:00 PM
 :lol


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Gabo on June 08, 2013, 06:00:08 PM
Summer in Love and Surfin' are my favorites for the lols. It's fun to fist pump to the second "GOT UP THIS MORNING TURNED ON MY RADIIIIIO" its fun


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: drbeachboy on June 15, 2013, 12:27:24 PM
I have agree with your assessment of the album as a whole. It really is not as bad as most make it out to be. As I either said here on another thread, the songs that were done live for the 92 Tour sounded great. It is definitely an album of it's times.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Alex on June 18, 2013, 02:59:00 PM
In the early 90's, when rock music was starting to sound dirty again, the Boys unleashed this slick, sub-adult contemporary shitbomb upon the world.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Mahalo on June 18, 2013, 05:31:49 PM
In the early 90's, when rock music was starting to sound dirty again, the Boys unleashed this slick, sub-adult contemporary shitbomb upon the world.

That was amazingly put.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: bluesno1fann on September 26, 2013, 05:31:37 PM
From Worst to Best:

12. Summer Of Love.
11. Forever.
10. Surfin'.
09. Under The Boardwalk.
08. Still Surfin'.
07. Strange Things Happen.
06. Hot Fun In The Summertime.
05. Island Fever.
04. Lahaina Aloha.
03. Remember (Walking In The Sand).
02. Summer In Paradise.
01. Slow Summer Dancin' (One Summer Night).


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: TimeToGetAlone on October 01, 2013, 12:18:30 PM
1. Lahaina Aloha - 215 (14)
2. Strange Things Happens - 203.5 (2)
3. Summer in Paradise - 174 (1)
4. Still Surfin' - 158 (1)
5. Hot Fun in the Summertime - 147.5 (2)
6. Island Fever - 146 (1)
7. Slow Summer Dancin' (One Summer Night) - 135.5
8. Under the Boardwalk - 123
9. Forever - 103
10. Remember Walking in the Sand - 91.5
11. Summer of Love - 86.5
12. Surfin' - 58.5

My thoughts?  Lahaina Aloha needed to be the number one choice, though it was much tighter than the first place votes would let on.  Forever is the song that gets the short stick IMO, not because it has anything on the far superior original but because the basic elements of the song are still there.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Orange Crate Art on August 12, 2014, 10:14:06 AM
Oof. This one is hard to rank because I don't know which songs I dislike more than the others. I only know my favorite track. But here we go anyway...

1. Hot Fun In The Summertime (I like Mike's bass voice)

the rest is hard to rank...

2. Summer In Paradise (the live version on MIC is pretty good I suppose)
3. Forever (well, because I love the original)
4. Surfin (only because I like the original)

oh man, the remainder is killing me...
I'm unsure if this order is correct for me or not...
best shot...

5. Still Surfin
6. Slow Summer Dancing
7. Under The Boardwalk
8. Lahaina Aloha
9. Remember Walking In The Sand
10. Island Fever
11. Strange Things Happen
12.Summer Of Love

I have a headache now.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: job on October 30, 2014, 10:32:56 AM

1. Lahaina Aloha
2. Summer In Paradise
3. Strange Things Happen
4. Hot Fun In The Summertime
5. Slow Summer Dancin' (One Summer Night)
6. Still Surfin'
7. Forever
8. Island Fever 
9. Under The Boardwalk
10. Remember Walkin' In The sand
11. Surfin'
12. Summer Of Love


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: NateRuvin on July 08, 2015, 09:12:43 AM
1. Slow Summer Dancin'--- What can I say? I love this song. I just wish it didn't have that annoying snare drum!!!!!!!
2. Island Fever--- With the right production and marketing, it could've been a hit.
3. Summer In Paradise--- I hate the US version, but the UK version is very good.
4. Still Surfin'--- A neat chord progression, but bad vocals.
5. Hot Fun In The Summertime--- Fun cover, but the production is horrible.
6. Forever--- NOOO!!! WHYY????? But, the beauty of Denny's music and lyrics shine through, no matter who's singing.
7. Lahaina Aloha--- Catchy--- but the production sucks!! I'm seeing a pattern here...
8. Under The Boardwalk--- Ugh god... This stinks......
9. Walkin In The Sand--- REMEMBA CRINGE
10. Surfin'--- DAMNIT! Why don't we take another classic, and ruin it.
11. Summer Of Love--- Possibly the worst song ever recorded.

Basically, this could've been an OK album, with good production.


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: jiggy22 on March 14, 2016, 10:54:26 AM
1. Strange Things Happen (The only song here that I actually somewhat enjoy!)
2. Still Surfin'
3. Lahaina Aloha
4. Summer in Paradise (As horrible as the song references are, it's kinda pretty)
5. Remember Walking in the Sand (the only song here where I don't mind the Sax)
6. Summer of Love (so bad it's enjoyable! Isn't it kinda funny how i'd rather listen to this than half of the songs on the album? Just goes to show the quality of the album!)
7. Hot Fun in the Summertime
8. One Summer Night (Those drums will be the death of me some day...)
9. Island Fever
10. Under the Boardwalk (yucky)
11. Surfin'
12. Forever

Ugh, it's kinda funny. After listening to this album, I went to Beach Boys In Concert to bleach my brain, and the change in quality is like a huge shock to my body. But in a good way.





Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: KDS on March 15, 2016, 05:38:36 AM
Jiggy,

I'm still amazing that The Beach Boys could mess up Under the Boardwalk that badly.  It's a shame they didn't record it in the 60s, or even during the late 70s. 


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: You Kane, You Commanded, You Conquered on March 27, 2016, 09:04:55 PM
Summer In Paradise
Strange Things Happen
Slow Summer Dancin'
Forever
Lahina Aloha
Still Surfin'
Under the Boardwalk
Remember Walking In The Sand
Surfin'
Island Fever
Hot Fun In The Summertime


Summer of Love (HEY NOW)




Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: joshferrell on December 13, 2016, 08:49:08 PM
They wanted to remake Surfin? In what style from 2000? EMO?  ;)

Good to see Island Fever high up there, not too many favor that one, but I do.

Bruce said around 2002 that they had asked the people who made the Macarena to do a remix of the SIP version of Surfin' "In a Britney Spears style", for possible use as a fortieth-anniversary release. I presume that's what Eric was referring to.

Maybe that'll see the light on Made In California ;)
wait was Britney even around singing in 1992?


Title: Re: Rank The Tracks #27: Summer In Paradise
Post by: Love Thang on July 08, 2017, 06:40:04 PM
One of the most embarrassing albums I have ever listened to and the only album by the band that I tossed into the garbage can.