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Title: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Letsgoawayforawhile on February 14, 2013, 06:43:28 AM
I'm not thinking too hard about ranking these, because most of them are irrelevant to me.

Yuck.
Sad that Dennis is last heard on this stinker of an album.
Here we go:

10. Keepin' the Summer Alive
9. School Day (Ring! Ring! Goes the Bell)
8. Sunshine
7. Goin' On
6. Some of Your Love - Best thing about this, is the Be True To Your School background vocals.
5. Santa Ana Winds
4. Endless Harmony - Bruce has a great voice, but this is weird.
3. Livin' with a Heartache - I like this, but is doesn't sound much like the BB's.
2. Oh Darlin - Carl sings this beautifully.
1. When Girls Get Together - I think this track is so unusual and lovely. Reminds me of Smile and Pet Sounds in ways. I wish those lyrics were just gone. I'd rather it just be instrumental.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on February 14, 2013, 06:55:00 AM
I dunno, it's pretty mediocre by BB standards but not terrible. I like it much better than LA....

Goin’ On
Oh Darlin’
When Girls Get Together
Some Of Your Love
Livin’ With A Heartache

Santa Ana Winds – the opening, spoken line is cringeworthy. After that, much better!
Endless Harmony

Sunshine

Keepin’ The Summer Alive
School Days


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on February 14, 2013, 07:08:24 AM
I don't care for this record very much and seldom play it.

1. "Goin' On"
2. "When Girls Get Together"
3. "Oh Darlin'"
4.   "Keepin' the Summer Alive"
5.  "Some of Your Love"
6.   "Endless Harmony"
7.  "Sunshine"
8.  "Santa Ana Winds"
9.  "Livin' with a Heartache"
10. "School Day (Ring! Ring! Goes the Bell)"


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: SMiLE Brian on February 14, 2013, 07:11:17 AM
The start of the era of unlistenable BBs albums. I have never listened to this album all the way through, its that bad.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: William Bowe on February 14, 2013, 07:22:22 AM
Ooh! A challenge! Do remember all this is relative, so I don't want anyone coming back at me with "Santa Ana Winds sounds like a John Denver reject" or "Carl's songs sound like beer commercials". I know all that.

Goin' On
Livin' With a Heartache
Santa Ana Winds
Keepin' the Summer Alive
Some of Your Love
School Day
Endless Harmony
Sunshine
Oh Darlin'
When Girls Get Together


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: SonicVolcano on February 14, 2013, 07:24:06 AM
First of all, what's up with that horrible drum sound? Reminds me a bit of Another One Bites The Dust by Queen, where the snare was completely taped.

Anyway, the album.

1. Goin' On
2. Livin' With A Heartache (one of Carl's best leads, in my opinion. His voice recovered really well)
3. Some Of Your Love
4. Keepin' The Summer Alive (love Mike's bass vocals)
5. When Girls Get Together
6. Sunshine
7. Endless Harmony
8. Oh Darlin'
9. School Days
10. Santa Ana Winds

Quite a disaster this album. Horrible cover as well.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Tord on February 14, 2013, 07:36:34 AM
1.  School Days
2.  Goin' On
3.  Endless Harmony
4.  Sunshine
5.  Some of Your Love
6.  When Girls Get Together
7.  Keepin' the Summer Alive
8.  Santa Ana Winds
9.  Oh Darlin'
10.Livin' With a Heartache


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Steve Mayo on February 14, 2013, 07:45:00 AM
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1. When Girls Get Together - I think this track is so unusual and lovely. Reminds me of Smile and Pet Sounds in ways. I wish those lyrics were just gone. I'd rather it just be instrumental.


an earlier version/mix of this song is much much better than what showed up on this lp.
esp. on a clear, crisp, clean version.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: I. Spaceman on February 14, 2013, 07:47:44 AM
As good as MIU, altho that isn't saying much. Weird to think that this record is such a disappointment, and also the only thing approaching decency they would release for 32 years hence (32 of the 50 years celebrated last year). Sad.

Truly top-flight, classic:

1. Goin' On (One of my personal BB faves)


Very good to good:

2. When Girls Get Together
3. Santa Ana Winds
4. Some Of Your Love
5. Oh Darlin'

Bland to terrible:

6. Keepin' The Summer Alive
7. Livin' With A Heartache
8. School Day

Even worse:

9. Sunshine
10. Endless Harmony.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on February 14, 2013, 07:51:41 AM
1.  School Days

Explain yourself!

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1. When Girls Get Together - I think this track is so unusual and lovely. Reminds me of Smile and Pet Sounds in ways. I wish those lyrics were just gone. I'd rather it just be instrumental.


an earlier version/mix of this song is much much better than what showed up on this lp.

Right - without the hideously out-of-sync kick drum overdub.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on February 14, 2013, 08:12:22 AM
MIU - Part 2. No really great, timeless songs but no terrible ones either. Again, Carl carries the group with his vocals; he was on a roll. Only 10 songs; inexcusable. Somebody thought this was a worthy project because they did a documentary about it. I always though they coulda got more out of Brian; he appeared to be lucid around that time. It's not a bad album yet I rarely listen to it...

1. Livin' With A Heartache - Carl attempted - and succeeded - in giving the group a modern, cool sound.
2. Goin' On - good effort but not quite a classic

3. Santa Ana Winds - an almost great song but the production lets it down
4. Sunshine - this one's like "Matchpoint"; I never understood the hate
5. Some Of Your Love - they tried, they really did

6. When Girls Get Together - like it but it's kind of out of place
7. Oh Darlin' - I wanted more Brian leads too but Carl's is better on this one


8. Keepin' The Summer Alive - sounds forced; funny how Carl isn't criticized for the lyrics
9. School Days - what happened to Brian's touch with oldies; was this Bruce's work?
10. Endless harmony - I like a lot of this; maybe I'm being too harsch relegating it to the basement


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Letsgoawayforawhile on February 14, 2013, 08:16:05 AM
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1. When Girls Get Together - I think this track is so unusual and lovely. Reminds me of Smile and Pet Sounds in ways. I wish those lyrics were just gone. I'd rather it just be instrumental.


an earlier version/mix of this song is much much better than what showed up on this lp.

Haven't heard it, but sure would love to!


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: John Manning on February 14, 2013, 08:18:28 AM
Bottom of the Barrel:
10. When Girls… – torpid
09. Sunshine – just goes on a bit too long
08. Endless Harmony – love the ending but what comes before ain't nice

Very Good:
07. Oh Darlin' – some great vocal work in there
06. Livin' With a Heartache – okay, getting more interesting, love the "after all this time…" pace
05. School Days… – that's more like it! Sounds like as 15BOs left-over
04. Goin' On

Great:
03. Santa Ana Winds – as stated in another thread, this is far superior to the unreleased version to my ears, and represents a style the Beach Boys could have adopted for ever, for me.
02. Some of Your Love – this was my favourite of the new tracks debuted at Knebworth in 19080, one of the best live tracks played that night for me.
01. Keeping the Summer Alive – possibly the best retro beach-style song they achieved. Crank it up - it rocks. "You'll be coming home with sand in your shoes…"   If they'd had to bow out their careers on a diet of rehashing the surf n' fun image, this would have been the blueprint.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Smilin Ed H on February 14, 2013, 08:39:44 AM
01.  Santa Ana Winds (despite spoken intro; best song here by some distance, but the production is a little sweet)
02.  KTSA
03.  Goin' On (production is a little too sweet)
04.  When Girls... (this has grown on me, but there's not much competition)
05.  Livin' With a Heartache
06.  Some of Your Love
07.  Oh Darlin'
08.  Endless Harmony
09.  School Days (unnecessary)
10.  Sunshine

Not an album I play much, but the first three tracks are on various compilations I've made and I do like Santa Ana Winds.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: shelter on February 14, 2013, 08:41:37 AM
I don't think this is as bad as most people say it is. It's still a whole lot better than BB85 and Summer in Paradise, IMO. None of the songs are great, but the majority is decent to good.

1. Some of Your Love - Very catchy chorus, great harmonies, easily one of their best songs from the 1980s (not that there's a whole lot of competition...).
2. Santa Ana Winds - Nice and mellow. Good composition, nice arrangement, some of the vocals (especially Mike's) could've been better though.
3. Goin' On - Not bad at all. The first four seconds are easily the best moment of the entire record.
4. Livin' with a Heartache - I dig the mellow mood of this song. Not a significant composition, but it's got some good hooks. It could've been about a minute shorter, though.
5. Endless Harmony - Cheesy first section with embarrassing lyrics, but from "And we sang God bless America..." on, it's REALLY good.
6. Keepin' the Summer Alive - Decent song. Catchy, sunny and energetic.
7. School Day - Yet another overproduced rock 'n' roll cover... I never missed those backing vocals on Chuck Berry's version, so here they just sound superfluous.
8. When Girls Get Together - Weird, not very good and just out of place.
9. Oh Darlin' - Boring.
10. Sunshine - This is just bad.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: shelter on February 14, 2013, 08:45:12 AM
Santa Ana Winds – the opening, spoken line is cringeworthy.

But then again, apart from 'Are You Lonesome Tonight?' and 'Somewhere Down the Crazy River' I can't think of any song right now with a spoken part that does work.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: I. Spaceman on February 14, 2013, 08:54:39 AM
Among about a ton of great songs with spoken sections, I'd like to nominate one for top of the heap:
The Velvet Underground's I Found A Reason.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Mike's Beard on February 14, 2013, 09:01:03 AM
The 5th post Holland album shows that the band still can't make a great album all the way through, but like the four proceeding records before it there is still the odd diamond between the dross.

1/ Goin' On - Mike and Brian's last decent song together.
2/ Santa Anna Winds - Al gets back to his folksy roots for a latter day highlight.
3/ Keepin' the Summer Alive - Catchy rocker with Joe Walsh solo, plus Mike's bass vocal RULES.

4/ Endless Harmony - The first half is so-so but the second half is magical.
5/ Livin' with a Heartache - Good song but badly needed editing down to the 3:30 min mark.
6/ Some of Your Love - Catchy but a little too cheesy.
7/ Sunshine - More cheese.

8/ Oh Darlin' - Great vocals by Carl but the song doesn't really do much for me otherwise.
9/ Schooldays - Another cack handed Chuck Berry cover (still better than Rock'n'Roll Music through!)

10/ When Girls Get Together - I'm convinced that post -73 the band were contractually stipulated to include at least one absolute stinker on each new album.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: gfac22 on February 14, 2013, 10:30:53 AM
Now this is a tough one, and not for the right reasons...

1. Santa Ana Winds - This is actually my preferred version of the song (even with Al's spoken word intro)
2. Endless Harmony - terrible lyrics aside, this is my favorite Bruce song after Disney Girls.  Carl's part at the end is one of my favorite later period BB moments.
3. Keepin' The Summer Alive - Corny, but fun.  Definitely check out the live version from Friday's if you haven't seen it.
4. Goin' On
5. Livin' With A Heartache - probably doesn't belong on a Beach Boys album, but I still like it a lot.  Another great vocal by Carl, and I love the "after all this time..." part.
6. Oh Darlin' - Okay song, but the backing vocals annoy me.
7. Sunshine - Again, okay song, but just doesn't really go anywhere.  I don't love it, but I never skip over it.
8. Some Of Your Love
9. When Girls Get Together - totally out of place on the album, and probably should have been left in the can.  Just goes on and on and on.
10. School Day - One of my least favorite covers the band ever did.  Much better live (especially from the Knebworth show), but here it's just a bore.

I think I like this album more than I probably should.  If they had dropped a couple of the crappier tunes and maybe resequenced the album, I think it would be much, much better.  Even still, I enjoy a good chunk of it.  Not their best, not their worst (but close).


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll on February 14, 2013, 10:53:19 AM
1/ Goin' On -  nice song despite the producer (BJ) doing his best to strangle the life out of it
2/ Keepin' the Summer Alive - (I like this a lot more than other people it seems, would have benefited greatly from being a minute or so shorter)
3/ Santa Ana Winds - Not a bad effort, Did Al actually write this and not recycle it from something?
4/ Livin' with a Heartache - Decent but stupidly long
5/ Oh Darlin'  - some really nice parts (intro and verse) but just doesn't work
6/ Some of Your Love - BBs by numbers
7/ Endless Harmony - Great vocals, song -meh
8/ When Girls Get Together - up there with "little tomboy" lyrically
9/ Schooldays - Pointless
10/ Sunshine- Rubbish


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll on February 14, 2013, 10:55:49 AM
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Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 14, 2013, 11:01:23 AM
I remember thinking this was dreck when I first heard it. Of course, I thought LA Light was okay when I first heard it, and we all know my opinion sure has changed. Has my opinion changed on this? Let's find out.


10 Endless Harmony- I hate the effects on Bruce's voice. Boring as f***. I much prefer the version done around the time of Surf's Up.
9. School Days- Horrible. The backup vocals suck, and sound like they are unfinished. Completely half-assed. Too much reverb on Al's vocal, guitar is mixed too low...no thanks.  'Uh oh Oh Oh uh oh Oh OH'...please shut the f*** up backing vocals, PLEASE.
8. Oh Darlin- The version with Brian on it is MUCH better. Same weak track, but Carl's vocal is too smooth to give the track any life. The mix sounds like sh*t, and sounds like someone let a slightly unintelligent 6 year old in the studio and told him to randomly play with the reverb settings.

Guess what? Those are the only three songs I hate on this album. I was shocked.

7. When Girls Get Together- I actually like the song, but not this mix. Again,. the vocals sound processed and mechanical, which is hilarious because this is an analog recording.
6. Santa Ana Winds- I do like this a lot, but that horrible effect on the vocals again nearly kills it.The rest of the production is nice, though.
5. Livin' with a Heartache- Only reason why this isn't #4 is because it goes on a bit too long, but I really dig this.
4. Some of Your Love- A really nifty production is killed by a squashed-sounding mix. That said, great fun if not the most artistic thing in the world.
3. Goin' On-  Unlike Santa Ana Winds and Oh Darlin, this is much better than the unreleased early version. I wish Brian's vocals were mixed up a bit, and I hate the sax solo so very much, but the rest of it is good enough to rate this high.
2.  Sunshine- Cause f*** you, that's why. Yes, I love this song. The only time where the vocal effects fit.  A better mix would improve this song's standing (louder guitar, bass,and kick drum, Brian mixed up higher). I wish I had access to the masters because I'd love to remix this.
1. Keepin' the Summer Alive-  Love this, especially the reggae-influenced drums.  An absolute gem. A retro song that still manages to sound current (for the time period).

First time I've listened to this album all the way through in years, and i've listened to it 3 times in a row before doing this. I actually like this album much more than LA Light. Again, the terrible mix and occasionally poor production choices are what hurt this album to me. I was prepared to hate this...quite surprised I don't.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Dave Modny on February 14, 2013, 11:45:29 AM
1. Santa Ana Winds
2. Livin' With A Heartache
3. Keepin' The Summer Alive
4. School Day
5. When Girls Get Together
6. Goin' On
7. Oh Darlin'
8. Endless Harmony
9. Sunshine
10. Some Of Your Love


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Nicko1234 on February 14, 2013, 12:18:04 PM
This album is dire and certainly worse than their previous three...

1, Santa Ana Winds (Shame about Mike's nasal vocal and the sloppy group vocals)
2, Goin' On (Shame about Mike's vocals again)

3, KTSA ( Despite the weak production)
4, Endless Harmony
5, School Days
6, When Girls Get Together (Though it is completely out of place and shouldn't have been included)
7, Livin With a Heartache

8, Oh, Darlin
9, Some of Your Love
10, Sunshine


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Jim V. on February 14, 2013, 01:41:55 PM
Jeez. This album is not very good at all. But it is listenable for the most part, and there are a few good songs. And most of the songs are catchy, even the bad ones.

1 "Goin' On": Nearly a classic. I don't particularly understand why Mike's voice is mixed so high in the mix. Too nasal. But anyways, probably the best lyrics Mike has written since 1979, except maybe for "Isn't It Time"
2 "Livin' With A Heartache": I know it's kinda lame, and it's not very Beach Boys, but its classic adult contemporary guilty pleasure stuff.
3 "Some Of Your Love": Not as good as "Child Of Winter". I don't mind the saxophone in rock 'n roll, but the sax in this song is so cheesy.
4 "Oh Darlin'": Just a boring, plain song. Sounds really uninspired. This is probably Brian's most uninspired work on a Beach Boys album. Yet this is still the fourth best song.
5 "Santa Ana Winds": Inoffensive. Except for the spoken intro. I woulda preferred this on L.A. rather than "Lady Lynda" or "Sumahama"
6 "Sunshine": They shoulda just kept "Little Girl" and went with that cover. The guys sound convincing and excited, but it's just a plain bad song. And Brian's falsetto just doesn't sound good on here.
7 "Endless Harmony": Bruce cheese. Pure schlock. From the second you hear the electric piano and his vocals you in Johnston land. The lyrics are horrible. The ending is kinda beautiful though. And I think this song would work better on a non Beach Boys album.
8 "When Girls Get Together": It's from the Sunflower era which sounds exciting, but this song is booooring. Mike sounds like sh*t, and supposedly Brian is there singing with him. I don't hear it.
9 "School Days": I like nearly all the covers on 15 Big Ones. But this one has nothing. And honestly, not one of my fave Chuck Berry cuts.
10 "Keepin' The Summer Alive": Sorry, but it's just a lame wanna be summer anthem. Sorry Carl.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Paulos on February 14, 2013, 02:13:20 PM
I must have listened to this album at least 10 times but it's so achingly tepid I can never remember what songs like Sunshine, Oh Darlin' and Santa Ana Winds sound like. I do like Goin' On though.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Cabinessenceking on February 14, 2013, 02:24:42 PM
the point where everyone (including the diehard fans) realised the decline was irreversable
everything on this record blows massive c*ck


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: I. Spaceman on February 14, 2013, 02:26:40 PM

everything on this record blows massive c*ck

Greil Marcus, roll over, there's a new, brilliant critical mind on the literati scene.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Please delete my account on February 14, 2013, 02:34:11 PM

7 "Endless Harmony": Bruce cheese. Pure schlock. From the second you hear the electric piano and his vocals you in Johnston land. The lyrics are horrible. The ending is kinda beautiful though. And I think this song would work better on a non Beach Boys album.


Yes, and it does: on "Caroline Now".


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Tord on February 14, 2013, 04:01:59 PM

It's no "Surfin' USA", but it injects some life into the album (and it's a much better Chuck Berry cover than "Rock and Roll Music"). The arrangement and backing vocals make the song work for me, and it sounds like they were having fun recording it. It's easily the highlight of the album to me.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Wrightfan on February 14, 2013, 05:19:54 PM
Endless Harmony (I like this song more than most)
Keepin' the Summer Alive
Santa Ana Winds
Oh' Darlin
When Girls Get Together
Goin' On
Livin' with a Heartache
Some of Your Love
Sunshine
School Day (Ring! Ring! Goes the Bell)


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: wantsomecorn on February 14, 2013, 09:52:38 PM
1. Goin' On - A classic.
2. Endless Harmony - The harmonies at the end are wonderful.
3. Santa Ana Winds - I actually enjoy the opening narration. It's cute of Al to explain the Santa Ana Winds in an unhelpful fashion to provide context. ("It's a weather condition called the Santa Ana Winds!")
4. Keepin' the Summer Alive - the live version is FAR better.
5. School Days (Ring! Ring! Goes the Bell) - Honestly not that awful? Sounds like they at least had fine recording it.
6. Sunshine
7. Some of Your Love
8. Oh Darlin'
9. Livin' with a Heartbreak - bland bland BLAND
10. When Girls Get Together - one of my all-time least favorites. Almost unlistenable.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Please delete my account on February 14, 2013, 11:43:00 PM
Oh, and also:


6 "Sunshine": They shoulda just kept "Little Girl" and went with that cover.

"Little Boy" is one of my favourite Crystals records. But if they had gone with that it would just be the same recording we have now but with different words. So less royalties for the Beach Boys, a second Crystals/Spector desecration (see Then I Kissed Her) and another latter-day Beach Boys song about little girls. Hm.

I haven't listened to this album enough to be able to legitimately rank it, but every time I Have heard it "Oh Darlin'" has been the standout track for me, surprised this isn't the case for anyone else here.



Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Eric Aniversario on February 15, 2013, 02:02:21 AM
A huge drop in quality from LA Light Album, but there are some fun moments, I guess.  This was one of just 4 albums that were totally ignored in the assembling of the C50 setlists of last year. (The other ones were Friends, Love You and SIP).  In fact, the last time (that I know of) that any song from this album was performed by any of the Beach Boys (together or apart) was 1996 when School Day made a one-off appearance in a show.  Does anyone know of any other times after that?

1. Keepin' the Summer Alive - Looks like this is the most polarizing song here, with a few of us ranking right at the top, with others ranking at the bottom.  I've always loved this track - a lot of rockin' fun!  The one part I don't like is the bass vocals on the intro - kind of embarrassing DUH DUH DUH, but everything else about it is great!  The live version is even better!  Far and away the best track on the album.  Should be on the upcoming boxed set! (Should've been on the 1993 one too!)

2. Sunshine - I've always thought that this was a fun little ditty, used to be on my car mixtapes all the time.

3. Livin' with a Heartache - A heartfelt vocal from Carl.  Kind of drags a little bit, and maybe too long, but when someone mentioned this was recorded in an open-air, outdoor setting, it changed the way I listened to it, and I liked it more from then on.
4. Some of Your Love - The verses sung by Mike are GREAT, classic Mike, while the background vocals simply GRATE on the ears, especially the last 45 seconds or so when they are repeating the chorus over and over.  Would have been better if they had just faded out earlier.
5. Endless Harmony - Carl on the 2nd half is way better than Bruce on the first half, but this is definitely a unique gem in the BB catalog - no other song quite like it.

6. Santa Ana Winds - I'm with everyone else who says that the spoken word part is unnecessary and cheesy and cringeworthy.  The background vocals are grating here as well.  Compare the background vocals on the whole KTSA album vs. the LA Light Album...why the disparity?  So weird.  LA's background vocals are soothing and smooth, whereas on KTSA, they are grating and harsh.  Weird.  But despite the weird background vocals, this Al song has a warm, comfy feeling to it at times.
7. Goin' On - I don't get why this was chosen as the lead single.  The title track totally should've been the 1st single instead.  The varying tempos and full-voiced yelling leads and background vocals here were way too intense for radio airplay in 1980.

8. When Girls Get Together - Probably the biggest bass sound you'll hear in almost any Beach Boys song up to this point.  But if that's the only highlight to the song, then that means trouble.  Lyrics that seem unnaturally dragged out and elongated.  One or two verses too many.
9. School Day (Ring! Ring! Goes the Bell) - The 45 version is a lot better, but that's not saying much.  The album version is headache-inducing if I listen to it on the wrong day.  The background vocals, much like on the album version of Rock And Roll Music, are too loud in comparison to the lead.  What is supposed to be a fun, lighthearted remake quickly becomes a cacophonous mess!
10. Oh' Darlin - This song already drags on and on, but to place it right after the title track in the album sequence was a huge mistake...it emphasizes the sense of dragging even more.



Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: MBE on February 15, 2013, 02:43:52 AM
A bad album, but still better than the 1984-96 era overall.
1 Goin On
2 Santa Ana Winds
3. Keeping The Summer Alive
4. Living With A Hearache (LP version too long but single edit is nice)
5.Some Of Your Love
6. Sunshine
7. Oh Darlin
8. Endless Harmony
9. When Girls Get Together (the only Sunflower era dud)
10.School Days (so fake)


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: MarcellaHasDirtyFeet on February 15, 2013, 04:49:36 AM
Honestly, I enjoy this album more than both MIU and LA. LA might have a few better songs, but I think it also has some worse ones. A great album while you drive around in early spring or summer. Definitely play this twofer more than MIU/LA.

1) Living with a Heartache-- C'mon. Get drunk and sing along
2) Keeping the Summer Alive-- Duh duh duh!!!
3) Some of Your Love-- Puts some pep in your step. I'll allow the sax intro just this once.
4) Sunshine-- Listen to it in the sunshine and it makes sense
5) Going On-- Sounds like Queen w/o Brian May's guitar
6) Santa Ana Winds-- So Al is silly and the backing vox suck. Still a good song
7) Oh Darlin-- Meh. Sweet enough. Doesn't bother me.
8) When Girls Get Together-- Way too friggin long. And weird (without much payoff, like BW usually gives us on "weird" songs). Dumb lyrics kill it for me.
9) Scool Days-- I like the a Capella intro, but naught else
10) Endless Harmony-- Carl almost saves it, but doesn't.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Nicko1234 on February 15, 2013, 11:09:14 AM
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"Little Boy" is one of my favourite Crystals records. But if they had gone with that it would just be the same recording we have now but with different words.



That depends on how they would have recorded it...

From what Bruce said, Brian only recorded a bit of this song and then it was essentially looped. They should have started again (or thrown it away entirely).


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Domino on February 15, 2013, 02:24:19 PM
1. Goin' On - Brian picks up another masterpiece
2. Endless Harmony - Bruce really captures the feeling of an era ending
3. When Girls Get Together - This works on so many plans
4. Oh Darlin' - I think this song had been better if another bandmember had sung it
5. Some Of Your Love - Now we're talking! A rocking Brian/Mike tune!
6. School Day - Al the rebel ;D
7. Keepin' The Summer Alive
8. Livin' With A Heartache - Doesn't go anywhere
9. Santa Ana Winds
10. Sunshine


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Gertie J. on February 15, 2013, 02:38:27 PM
Oh Darlin' - I think this song had been better if another bandmember had sung it

bruce?


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Domino on February 15, 2013, 05:08:37 PM
Oh Darlin' - I think this song had been better if another bandmember had sung it

bruce?

Okey, anyone except him.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on February 15, 2013, 05:18:54 PM
I'm confused. What's wrong with Carl's vocal on "Oh, Darlin'"? It' fine. The only one that could've come close to it around that time was Al. If anything, it's the harmonies on the song that are rough, and, from what I've read, Brian produced them.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on February 15, 2013, 06:03:51 PM
I'm confused. What's wrong with Carl's vocal on "Oh, Darlin'"? It' fine. The only one that could've come close to it around that time was Al. If anything, it's the harmonies on the song that are rough, and, from what I've read, Brian produced them.

I dunno, I'm with you. I like Carl's lead vocal. I know there's a Brian version, but not sure exactly where that's "located", cough. Actually, I think that's a song any of the BBs could have tackled - Bruce would have made it sweet, Mike would have made it familiar sounding, Alan would have made it sound innocent.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on February 15, 2013, 06:18:55 PM
I'm confused. What's wrong with Carl's vocal on "Oh, Darlin'"? It's fine. The only one that could've come close to it around that time was Al. If anything, it's the harmonies on the song that are rough, and, from what I've read, Brian produced them.

I dunno, I'm with you. I like Carl's lead vocal. I know there's a Brian version, but not sure exactly where that's "located", cough. Actually, I think that's a song any of the BBs could have tackled - Bruce would have made it sweet, Mike would have made it familiar sounding, Alan would have made it sound innocent.

I heard Brian's lead on "Oh, Darlin'" a while back on YouTube, I think. It's OK, nothing special. I don't think it's nearly as good as Carl's. And, hey, I'm all for more Brian leads. Do you realize that Brian went the whole L.A. (Light Album) without a lead vocal, then the whole Keepin' The Summer Alive album without a lead vocal. I find that fascinating for some reason. Anyway, IMO, Carl was peaking vocally from 1979 - whenever; and I think he correctly got the brunt of the leads, including "Oh, Darlin'".


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: I. Spaceman on February 15, 2013, 07:11:10 PM
Carl has slow drunk voice on Oh Darlin'. He had that going from 15 Big Ones through this album. I like it sometimes, not at others.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: smilethebeachboysloveyou on February 16, 2013, 08:28:23 PM
I just listened to this album for the first time in a very long time, and it was somewhat better than I remembered it.  I've generally placed this album at the bottom of the band's oeuvre along with Summer in Paradise, and while it's certainly closer to the bottom than it is to the top, I think that, aside from "Endless Harmony," which I find unbearable, the songs range from decent to tolerable.  Many of them are comparable in quality, I think, to "She's Got Rhythm" from the M.I.U. Album in that they provide some hint of the band's abilities without being fully satisfying.  The only two songs that sound fully realized to me are "Goin' On" and "Some of Your Love," though I don't think either one is the greatest demonstration of the band's harmonizing capabilities.  Tracks ranked 1-8 are
 listenable, in my view, though 9 and 10 are not.

1.) Goin' On
2.) Some of Your Love

3.) Santa Ana Winds
4.) Keepin' the Summer Alive
5.) Oh Darlin'
6.) Living with a Heartache--Though pleasant enough for a listen, the repetitive and unimaginative melody gets stuck in my head for days whenever I listen to this.
7.) Sunshine
8.) When Girls Get Together

9.) School Days


10.) Endless Harmony--Probably the worst song to appear on a Beach Boys album up until 1980, though it would be surpassed by "Passing Friend" on the following album and by several songs on Summer in Paradise.  I've liked some of Bruce's songs well enough, but for the life of me, I can't even figure out what he's trying to do here.  The first half of the song is just him half-talking and half-singing as some instrument sounds that never quite register as musical play in the background.  Then Carl starts singing a seemingly unrelated song in the second half.  I'm all for sentiment, but on this song it never comes across as anything other than trite.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: TimeToGetAlone on February 17, 2013, 02:18:44 PM
1. Goin' On
2. Livin' With A Heartache

3. Oh Darlin'
4. Santa Ana Winds
5. Keepin' the Summer Alive
6. When Girls Get Together
7. Endless Harmony
8. Sunshine
9. Some of Your Love
10. School Days (Ring! Ring! Goes the Bell)

It's probably one of their most uninteresting albums, with a limp production and few songs that ever make much of an impact.  It's more consistently uneventful than it is downright bad, but I'd rather an album has worthy highs and regrettable lows than little of value.  I think Goin' On is really the only standout track here.  


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Disney Boy (1985) on February 18, 2013, 12:40:34 PM
Such a lame album. At least MIU and BB '85 had at least one genuinely great song each (My Diane, Where I Belong). This album doesn't even have that - just a lot of poorly produced mediocrity.

Anyway...

1. Livin' With A Heartache - to me, far and away the best song on the album. 'After all this time/I still wish you were mine/I miss you every day/Come back to me and stay' - this is the one really, really good section of the song, and therefore the one really, really good moment on the album.

2. Keepin' The Summer Alive - a frustrating listen, as there's obviously a pretty damn good song in there somewhere, but the appalling (over-)production just smothers the life out of it (great guitar solo though!)

3. Erm...

Nope. It's no good. I just really strongly dislike the rest of the record. Goin' On does nothing for me - it's horrible. Santa Ana Winds is a decent song - I love the lovely unreleased version - but the album production just ruins it - especially on the chorus, which should be rich in harmony but instead just sounds tinny and over-processed. When Girls Get Together is awful - hard to believe it originates from the awesome Sunflower period. Thank God it never made it onto that album!



Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Fall Breaks on February 18, 2013, 11:28:20 PM
1. Goin' On
2. Santa Ana Winds
3. Keepin' the Summer Alive
4. Some Of Your Love
5. Livin' With A Heartache
6. Sunshine
7. Oh Darlin'
8. School Days
9. When Girls Get Together
10. Endless Harmony


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Sunflowerpet on February 19, 2013, 02:44:27 PM
 1. Goin' On
 2. Santa Ana Winds
 3. When Girls Get Together
 4. Oh Darling
 5. Some of Your Love
 6. Keepin' The Summer Alive
 7. Sunshine
 8. Livin' With A Heartache
 9. Shool Days
10.Endless Harmony


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Generation42 on February 21, 2013, 05:36:49 AM

01. Keeping the Summer Alive – possibly the best retro beach-style song they achieved. Crank it up - it rocks. "You'll be coming home with sand in your shoes…"   If they'd had to bow out their careers on a diet of rehashing the surf n' fun image, this would have been the blueprint.

I agree with the merits of "Keepin' the Summer Alive."  Viewing the live rendition (from Fridays, was it?) gave me an all new outlook on this song.  It does rock!  Certainly a lot more than the LP rendition, anyway.  Something vital was lost during the recording process.

Oh, and I quite like "Oh, Darlin."  Once again, watching a video of the guys performing it live is what really put it over the top for me.  Not inspired choices, what with the title cut and the big ballad, I know, but what can I say?  The rest of the album just doesn't do much for me.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Catbirdman on March 19, 2013, 03:08:37 PM
A
Goin' On

A-
Santa Ana Winds
Some of Your Love

B
When Girls Get Together

B-
Keepin' the Summer Alive
Oh Darlin'

C
School Day (Ring! Ring! Goes the Bell)
Sunshine

D
Livin' with a Heartache

F
Endless Harmony


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: phirnis on March 23, 2013, 03:22:26 PM
Think this is the only one I haven't ranked yet. Easily one of their least satisfying releases ever, even though there are glimpses of brilliance throughout. Still, not even half as good as its predecessor (which is, admittedly, a favorite of mine).

Great:
When Girls Get Together
Goin' On

Good/enjoyable:
Livin' With a Heartache
Santa Ana Winds (much prefer the earlier version)
Some of Your Love
Oh Darlin'

Somewhere in between:
Endless Harmony (I really really like the Free Design's cover version of this!)

Forgettable:
Keepin' the Summer Alive
School Day


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: joshferrell on March 23, 2013, 03:29:40 PM
1. livin with a heartache
2.goin on
3.when girls get together
4.santa anna winds
5.keepin the summer alive
6.oh darlin
7.Some of your love (Even though it is very similar to "wontca come out tonight" from MIU)
8.sunshine
9.school days
10.endless harmony


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Summer_Days on April 15, 2013, 05:11:58 PM
1. Goin' On - Awesome. Leave it to Carl to save an iffy album (see Beach Boys '85 for further proof).
2. Livin' With A Heartache - LOVE this song. One of the smoothest Carl vocals.
3. Oh Darlin' - quite strong, nice harkening back to a far better song, 'God Only Knows'.
4. Keepin' The Summer Alive - notice how I have the top 4 clogged with Carl Wilson songs? Wonder why... ;)
5. Santa Ana Winds - the spoken bit sucks, Mike's nasal voice is seriously distracting and it could have been recorded MUCH better. But still pretty decent.
6. Endless Harmony - Half good.
7. When Girls Get Together - Eh? Nah. Well....
8. School Days - Better on the Knebworth DVD. Otherwise meh.
9. Some of Your Love - blah, Mike, blah!
10. Sunshine - Forget about it! No, seriously.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: jvcthome on September 09, 2013, 08:09:11 AM
1. Goin' On
2. Santa Ana Winds - I don't see what's wrong with Al's spoken intro.
3. Sunshine - If you go on Webster and search for the word RAD, there's just a link for a .mp3 of this song.
4. Some Of Your Love
5. Keepin' The Summer Alive
6. Oh Darlin'
7. Endless Harmony - I LOVE the coda, but the rest... ugh.
8. Livin' With A Heartache
9. School Days
10. When Girls Get Together - If you don't feel insulted by the mix, there's something very wrong with your ears.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: TimeToGetAlone on October 01, 2013, 12:11:12 PM
1. Goin' On - 306.5 (19)
2. Santa Ana Winds - 255.5 (4)
3. Keepin' the Summer Alive - 232 (3)
4. Livin' with a Heartache - 220 (4)
5. Some of Your Love - 207.5 (1)
6. When Girls Get Together - 180.5 (2)
7. Oh Darlin' - 177.5
8. Endless Harmony - 149.5 (1)
9. Sunshine - 141.5 (1)
10. School Day (Ring! Ring! Goes the Bell) - 109.5 (1)

My thoughts? Probably the toughest album to make sense of because there's nothing amazing, with most of the songs being middling.  The top and bottom spots are pretty decisive, but beyond that I don't have much to say.  Some of Your Love may be too highly regarded for my tastes, however.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: bluesno1fann on April 13, 2014, 01:22:02 AM
From Worst to Best:

10. School Days (Ring! Ring! Goes the Bell).
09. Sunshine.
08. When Girls Get Together.
07. Oh Darlin'.
06. Livin' With A Heartache.
05. Goin' On.
04. Santa Ana Winds.
03. Some Of Your Love.
02. Endless Harmony.
01. Keepin' The Summer Alive.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Alex on June 03, 2014, 04:54:41 AM
Keepin' the Summer Alive-Knebworth version
Oh Darlin-Brian Vocal
Mike Come Back to LA
School Days-Knebworth version
Goin' to the Beach
Why Won't They Let Us Fall in Love
Santa Ana Winds (version with different lyrics and no voice over)
Lookin' Down the Coast
When Girls Get Together-Sunflower version

Yeah, I know it's not the actual album, but KTSA is just so terrible that I'd rather hear the outtakes.


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Orange Crate Art on August 12, 2014, 08:26:55 AM
Not their greatest album but I like it more than the average person does.

1. Goin' On
2. Keepin' The Summer Alive
3. Livin' With A Heartache
4. Some Of Your Love
5. School Day
6. Santa Ana Winds
7. Sunshine
8. When Girls Get Together
9. Endless Harmony
10. Oh Darlin'


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: job on October 27, 2014, 04:37:11 PM
1. Goin' On
2. Livin' With a Heartache
3. Oh, Darlin
4. Endless Harmony
5. Santa Ana Winds
6. Some of Your Love
7. Keepin' the Summer Alive
8. Sunshine
9. School Day
10. When Girls Get Together


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: jiggy22 on November 01, 2015, 03:13:46 PM
10). School Day
9). Keepin' the Summer Alive
8). Sunshine
7). Livin' With a Heartache
6). Santa Ana Winds (Spoken word intro just kills it for me, the earlier version is FAR superior!)
5). Endless Harmony (If only that last minute was about something other than how awesome america is, then it could've ranked higher. Still find the rest of it very haunting though!)
4). Some of Your Love (Mike Come Back to LA anyone?)
3). Goin' On (I'd prefer it without the sax solo, but still very good!)
2). Oh Darling (Love either version, I don't really get the hate for this song!)
1). When Girls Get Together (Just beautiful)

3/16/16 Edit:

Decided to re-listen to the album, and my opinions have changed significantly.

10. Keepin' the Summer Alive
9. Santa Ana Winds
8. Sunshine
7. Livin' With a Heartache
6. School Day
5. Some of Your Love
4. Endless Harmony
3. Goin' On
2. Oh Darling
1. When Girls Get Together


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: You Kane, You Commanded, You Conquered on March 27, 2016, 08:32:18 PM
Endless Harmony
Oh Darlin'
Goin' On
Keepin' The Summer Alive
When Girls Get Together
Some of Your Love
Livin' With A Heartache
Sunshine
Santa Anna Winds

School Day


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Mr Fulton on May 14, 2017, 04:13:39 AM
1. Santa Ana Winds
2. Goin On
3. Keepin The Summer Alive
4. Some Of Your Love
5. Livin With A Heartache
6. Sunshine
7. Endless Harmony
8. When Girls Get Together
9. School Days
10. Oh Darlin


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: Wata on January 12, 2018, 02:05:41 AM
The weaker MIU Album.

1. Goin' On
2. Oh Darlin'
3. Santa Ana Winds
4. Some of Your Love
5. When Girls Get Together

6. Livin' with a Heartache
7. School Days

8. Endless Harmony
9. Keepin' The Summer Alive
10. Sunshine


Title: Re: Rank the tracks #24: Keepin' the Summer Alive
Post by: BrentBlanchard on August 03, 2018, 09:19:22 AM
1. Oh Darlin’ - Extremely catchy, beautiful Carl vocals, background vocals on point too.
2. Goin’ On - One of Mike’s best leads, amazing full lead and harmonies, awesome sax solo.
3. Some Of Your Love - Full amazing background vocals, decent Mike lead.
4. Endless Harmony - Absolutely wonderful Bruce lead and Carl chorus, bringing something new to the table, beautiful.
5. When Girls Get Together - Interesting instrumental work, pleasant lead.
6. Santa Ana Winds - Nice strings and decent Al lead, unfortunately forgettable.
7. Keepin’ The Summer Alive - Nice bridge, fun to listen to occasionally, that’s about all.
8. Sunshine - Does nothing for me, repetitive.
9. School Day (Ring! Ring! Goes The Bell) - The intro is the only great part, backing vocals are painful, repetitive.
10. Livin’ With A Heartache - Doesn’t do anything for me, not bad, but not good.