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If I started a thread asking for help with listening to modern hip-hop and R&B, would there be any takers?

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Did Sam Cooke really intend the bridge to 'A Change Is Gonna Come' to go,

'I go to my brother,
and I say 'Brother help me please'
And he just knocks me
back on my MOTHERFUCKIN knees'

Hope so, Sam Cooke the original G.... :hat

Dude, listen to the first Wu-Tang album. It ain't nothin' to f*** with.

It certainly ain't  ;D

I find the best way to get someone into rap is through DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince. Parents just don't understand!

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That's my dentist.

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It happens. The more records you have, of course, the greater chance of you having double labeled 45s. I think my first one was a copy of The Four Seasons' Workin' My Way Back To You, which had that as both sides, while actually playing Beggars Parade on the other side.

Was Pink Floyd's Candy and A Currant Bun the first rock/pop/"commercial" song to have the word "f*ck" in it?

Have any of you ever ordered something from PopMarket? (http://www.popmarket.com)

Most of their offers seem really good and profitable, but is the quality of the product/service the same?

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*cough*

Yes.
Although there is a heavily sped-up utterance in The Mothers Of Invention's The Return Of The Son Of Monster Magnet a year before.

Steve Douglas on Da Doo Run Run.

Yes.

Does anyone know if there were 'issues' with the 2004 reissue of Rumours? Specifically why they would use the barely altered remixes for the bonus material, when they had much more bona fide material in the vaults, as the new 2013 bonus disc shows? It's boggling my mind. Missing tapes? Band infighting (it IS Fleetwood Mac, after all)? Something else? Wonder whether this was known knowledge, so to speak.

Does anyone know where one can find the stage performance rights to The Point! By Harry Nilsson, if indeed they exist?

Hey hypehat and whoever else: Get me into disco. Tell me what albums or compilations or whatever I absolutely need. I know nothing of the genre beyond the ridiculously popular white-boy Bee Gees disco stuff...

OK... I'm not the best for this, my love of the genre comes from my dad playing these records a lot when i was a kid. Kinda reckon this is why my default stance on guitar is to play chords in a chikka-chikka style, a la Nile Rogers. Reckon I need to go through his CDs again...

First off anything by, or touched by, The Chic Organisation is sheer gold. Nile Rogers is my guitar hero. The C'est Chic album gets a lot of play round mine, especially for this track http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX_BvwP1y2k (Bernard Edwards bassline is utterly spellbinding on that cut) but anything before 1980 is a good bet. Singles, albums, 12'' mixes (especially the 12'' mixes! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czvtXjj4tqk).... But Chic also wrote, produced and played the tracks for Sister Sledge (check out He's The Greatest Dancer, what a tune!), Donna Summer* (I'm Coming Out, but find the Chic mix if you can, Motown screwed them over), and Norma Jean (who indeed, but the tracks are slamming). There's a boxset that's out of print, I think, but it's on the torrents.

*I obviously mean Diana Ross, what the f*** is wrong with me

Donna Summer - the Love To Love You Baby album is solid, and I Feel Love, which is possibly the Mount Rushmore of disco. Produced by legend of the game, Giorgio Moroder.

KC & The Sunshine Band are also good on my nostalgia. And if H.A.P.P.Y Radio by Edwin Starr http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS5xEVXWgpA which is absolutely champion

There's apparently a couple of Rhino sets that are good overviews of a lot of the more obscure stuff, like Disco's version of Nuggets, but I haven't got hold of them.

Hope that gets u started!

Two words: Stax and Motown. Don't bother with modern R&B unless it's on the Daptone label.

The Daptone label is the equivalent of bands whose only trick is 'we love you Brian Wilson'. Well meaning, but why would you listen to a copy of that thing you love, no matter how well it's done? I have a couple of Sharon Jones albums, but the effect is just... eh. Zero originality.

I was going to say that last night but didn't bother. I feel like Daptone is R&B for people who are scared of actually contemporary R&B which incorporates (at least or most obviously) hip-hop. Erykah Badu's more recent stuff, like the New Amerykah series for example.

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Grace Jones, Van McCoy, and anything that says TSOP - The Sound of Philadelphia.

Not sure, but Motown Soul doesn't get any better than that.  Marvin with or without a partner was the trouble man.  Stevie came damn close.  He's my #2.

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On a local Beatles forum, some posters were discussing "Who fits the label 'the real rocker'". Variety of names were brought in, someone even said Viv Prince from The Pretty Things  that comment caught lots of flame & disagreement  like he's worthless & stuff. Anyway, people also made a list of necessary attributes to holding such a status. Ones said you must have greasy long hair, leather jacket, spastic movements to & fro etc. I read this topic attentively & came to conclusion that Elton John is the one I think is the synonym of "rocker". He's got all: energetic stage presence, weird charisma, strong versatile voice (can do falsetto, bass, baritone, just everything), absolutely great piano style (boogie-woogie, even something mellow turns out to be a rollicking dynamic song). Plus he has great dressing style, lots of colors, audacity, Day-Glo, giant glasses & stuff.

What about some of you? I think it's a highly interesting discussion. You can tell either name or in full detail (what needs clothes, performance-wise).

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Can someone who is a member of the Hoffman board bump the Leonard Cohen album-by-album thread. http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/leonard-cohen-album-by-album-thread.389516/page-20 (http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/leonard-cohen-album-by-album-thread.389516/page-20)
It's been stalled at "Recent Songs" for a while now, and I'm having to resort to finding other things to read.

That tricky word "rock" again.  ;D

In this context I would say Rockers are the opposite of Mods, as in the goings-on on the beach at Brighton on the mid-sixties. And they were the leather-jacketed types with hair that wasn't long by hippie standards but certainly greasy!

My first thought was of the arch-rocker Gene Vincent, who fits the bill perfectly. (Unfortunately they say he wasn't a particularly nice person.)     

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Medieval music is just awful.

Tell that to Ritchie Blackmore! Please! I mean really, please please tell him.

You've probably been subjected to the wrong stuff. Try this for size. Some of the early vocal music is awe-inspiring:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJxRDhejtwo

It's really on my nerves that we can't get downloads of Parallel Lines or Eat to the Beat in the US. What's up with that?

Emily, as a Blondie fan you must see the 1 hr doc on the making of Parallel Lines, "Blondie's New York", now streaming on Netflix. Really good program!

Wow! Thanks for the heads up! Will definitely catch it this weekend!

Ritchie's coming back to rock....at least briefly.  He's doing two shows in Germany, and one in the UK, billed as Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow.  No word on who'll be filling out the lineup except that Joe Lynn Turner has apparently been ruled out. 

I'm hoping this recharges Ritchie's battery and he does a full tour, but I'm not counting on it. 

Super random, but...

What do you guys think about Demi Lovato?

I've grown fond of her in my dotage.

A bit of an over-singer. 

Ilost my laptop. I don't know where to get another program that will save mp3's to mono.
batch convert trout to mono.    anybodydo this youll be my friend through the postal service. forefeit your privacy i send chocolates   I want to listen to something ill enjoy but not enjoy in a way so as that ill be able to sing  or do anything *along* with it other than live comfortably, comfortable about nothing other the pleasure of trout.

Hal, why in God's name would you want a mono fold down of Trout Mask Replica

Ugh. I included that reasoning in orgi. post. My space bar decided it was the thing that should not be, and my other keys of decreased finesse             misspelled what probably wouldn't have beeen infiniti space bar'red into eternty...ugh...


cause i have only one big speaker. One small okay speaker. Dual Mono power amp.                                Reallyannoying to listen to stereo records without matched pair of speakers there is no eq-ing /knob twiddling- in order to compensate 4                                              the shittiness of one of your speakers....and uhh i drove all the way to st louis (park) at                                                    daddyt bird revocation privileges speed in order to minimize my distress in the event I become mired in unfamiliar west metro infrastructure.*killed it*  Ipreferto listen into my mixer  my phono plug to 1/4 inch jack plugs that make this possible are missing ohyeah ou .....you lost itl  okay. 

I asked needle doctor for hono plug to quarter inch mono jack adapater. i        askedthem if they know radio shacks ,if they all gone? they recommend some store promising sounding, but even further into the leisure ly , beautiful                                                            1strign.....,....septuple infity ring west metro burishness. heall like you Mound Music. Way outder

Iwant to hear it loud. but dont have hardware to convert stereo source signals to mono.                                                        amp and speak is the quipment to listen in mono. no matter.  as time's gone by, the record tempo of the music's fell...

Don't want to start a thread because not sure many people here have interest, but RIP Malik Taylor/Phife Dawg.

Just saw the NYT obit & was thinking of post. Really sad, and a bigger figure in music to me than 75% of the people in RIP threads here. (No disrespect intended, just a fact.) Part of one of the key groups of the past 25 years.

agreed. That era of hip hop was paradigm changing.

My son used to watch a thing called Yo! MTV Raps and A Tribe Called Quest were often on there. Forty-five is no age to die...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71ubKHzujy8

:'(

The band I play keyboard in has decided to take on Peter Gabriel's "Sledgehammer". All well and good----nothing like a decent skullcruncher to keep your audience on their toes----but there's the matter of that Fairlight shakuhachi arpeggio. Apart from the business of getting a sound to approximate it, there are the notes to consider. One website claimed that "it's just 5 different tones required, we play it in Eb major, it goes like this Ab-Db-Eb-Eb(8va) --- Ab-Gb-Ab-Eb". H'mm.
I'll find a solution, no doubt about that, but I was just wondering if anyone here has anything to say on the subject.

Extremely underrated, and MUCH better live than on disc.

I don't, but you could ask Andy Ascolese (http://andyascolese.com/contact.html) of the Band Geeks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGXeonLnn6g&list=PLnMcEsTThqxteO9WaBxfnIAfgd5HR0P9p).

Thanks a lot, Sjöman. Most interesting! The Band Geeks play it in the original E flat. Our singer can't sing that high so we've had to compromise and play it in C. It's lost a lot of its impact along the way but that's show business...

As it happens, I've managed to sort out the flute flourish. I even coaxed a shakuhachi sound out of my Nord (sheer luck, I suspect).   

What do the backing vocals say in Almost Grown?

Hi, Ovi. Chuck's "Almost Grown"? It's just nonsense syllables. The "lah-doo-day" bit found its way onto "The Little Girl I Once Knew"...

According to wikipedia, "[t]he background vocals on Berry's recording are by Etta James and Harvey & the New Moonglows, featuring the young Marvin Gaye."   

Yeah, thought so. Though they always sounded a bit like "night and day" and I was wondering.

I've been pondering the upper register leap in the background vocals of some sixties songs. Earl-Jean's "I'm Into Something Good" will do as an example (first at 0:23):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5-Sg_JJgQ4

Another occurs just before the tag of the Shangs' "Leader Of The Pack" and a third (if slightly more elaborate) during the tag of The Ronettes' "(The Best Part Of) Breakin' Up"...

Whenever I hear that effect at the end of "At My Window" I find myself thinking "Hey, they're imitating their earlier selves". Maybe that's because of the similar effect in the bridge of "Back In The U.S.S.R."...

Did the BB do it first? Or did it come from the NYGG or doo wop scene?

Just thinking out loud here...

There's another great track I've heard a couple of times recently and can't identify but I'm sure it's been a hit so it's only obscure to me. ;D

It has a bit of a Mink Deville sound to it (not that I'm that familiar with their stuff) with a low lead voice and this instrumental section with a high melodic, Moorish-sounding guitar line which, if the song were to be in B minor, is shaped thus (upper case is ascending and LOWER CASE descending):

B______ A# b c# d C#__ (B A#) b______

The notes in (brackets) are short.

Sound familiar to anyone?

Checking music in computer, you see many songs with stupid/ bizarre titles - various namby pambys, shang a langs, hanky pankys, who planted torns in miss alice's gardens, diddy wah diddys, apothecary dreams, the upper left hand corner of the skys, geometry alleys, algebra spaghettis.

LOL!

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