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Title: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Jon Stebbins on September 17, 2012, 03:56:48 PM
This kinda counts as another show right? They are playing a "brief" acoustic set and doing a Q&A. I'll be there and will give my report/review when I get... back home.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: oldsurferdude on September 17, 2012, 08:12:41 PM
This kinda counts as another show right? They are playing a "brief" acoustic set and doing a Q&A. I'll be there and will give my report/review when I get... back home.
Surely there could not be any plans to let Myke Luhv speak at this event.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Rocker on September 18, 2012, 09:23:59 AM
This kinda counts as another show right? They are playing a "brief" acoustic set and doing a Q&A. I'll be there and will give my report/review when I get... back home.


Have a good time!

Hope to hear and see it on the web soon


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: musicismylife101 on September 18, 2012, 04:39:19 PM
Facebook:

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Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Wah Wah Wah Ooooo on September 18, 2012, 04:48:46 PM
Who's that playing the box?


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Justin on September 18, 2012, 04:59:44 PM
Most likely John Cowsill.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Wah Wah Wah Ooooo on September 18, 2012, 05:01:11 PM
Looks like the boys backed by Darian, Totten and maybe Cowsill...wonder where Foskett is, as I find it hard to believe Brian would perform without him at his side.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on September 18, 2012, 05:15:24 PM
Looks like the boys backed by Darian, Totten and maybe Cowsill...wonder where Foskett is, as I find it hard to believe Brian would perform without him at his side.

Maybe he wasn't feeling well so Darian was sitting in for him.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: runnersdialzero on September 18, 2012, 05:27:23 PM
No Foskett with a minimal backing band? Sounds like this could be very interesting/promising.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Shady on September 18, 2012, 05:41:00 PM
Foskett was busy running various errands for Brian


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: LostArt on September 18, 2012, 07:04:26 PM
There is another guitar player directly behind Brian, and hidden by Dave in the photo.  You can see the headstock of the guitar next to Darian's head.  Is that Cowsill sitting on and playing a box?


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: rn57 on September 18, 2012, 08:30:28 PM
Looks like the boys backed by Darian, Totten and maybe Cowsill...wonder where Foskett is, as I find it hard to believe Brian would perform without him at his side.

Pay no attention to the falsetto behind the curtain....


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Emdeeh on September 18, 2012, 09:14:14 PM
Or Foskett took the photo.....




Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Autotune on September 19, 2012, 04:07:46 AM
As another poster put it already: no Foskett, no Beach Boys.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Rocker on September 19, 2012, 04:08:28 AM
At first I thought it was Matt Jardine on the box.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: MaxL on September 19, 2012, 04:26:54 AM
Are people sure that's John on the box? The man has gorgeous hair, why would he tie it up like that? Could be a techie checking the levels (if this is a pre-performance still, obviously), maybe? Otherwise a sit-in? This post couldn't be any more devoid of certainty. Could it?


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Rocker on September 19, 2012, 05:41:28 AM
Facebook:

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Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: STE on September 19, 2012, 06:01:41 AM
Facebook:

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Ahah, this one is funny!



Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: stack-o-tracks on September 19, 2012, 06:18:20 AM
so where's all the updates at?!


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: LostArt on September 19, 2012, 06:25:24 AM
Facebook:

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The Pendletones, 2012.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Rocker on September 19, 2012, 07:08:39 AM
I don't know where this is from. It was posted on Facebook and says "An evening with The Beach Boys":

(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404000_4396983014337_968436289_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Mikie on September 19, 2012, 07:21:49 AM
Are people sure that's John on the box? The man has gorgeous hair, why would he tie it up like that?

"Gorgeous hair"??    :o


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: MaxL on September 19, 2012, 07:33:54 AM
Are people sure that's John on the box? The man has gorgeous hair, why would he tie it up like that?

"Gorgeous hair"??    :o

Damn right. You ever seen those glorious untamed locks when the man's pounding on them drums? Majestic.

I'm gonna go lie down for a while until some info on this event is shared.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Ram4 on September 19, 2012, 07:53:28 AM
The box he is sitting on is called a cajon, a wooden percussion instrument.  They're pretty cool because they multi-task as an insturment and a chair. ;D


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: southbay on September 19, 2012, 08:04:11 AM
It was a great event.  The band played 5 songs--SG, Cal Girls, Help Me Rhonda (introduced by Brian stating, "I'm really in the mood to hear Al Jardine sing..."), Kokomo, and I Get Around after about an hour of talk.  I tried but did not get to ask a qiuestion.  Most questions were typically lame. When asked what was "on his buscket list?", Brian stated "What is a bucket list?"   After having the concept explained to him, Brian replied that he "would really like to record a rock n' roll album with the boys". Huge applause all around. AL and David seconded that. When asked on follow up if there were definite plans on a new album, Brian replied no definite plans, but they would likely be back in the studio after the first of the year. When asked about their various solo ventures, Al stated he had no interest in that, "this is the band (pointing to the group)."  He stated that they plan on continuing on this configuration, or something to that effect, I lost the direct quote. No quotes from either Mike or Bruce on these topics, but Brian, Al and David were very vocal and upbeat about the future of the band together.

Although that was not Cowsill in the facebook pic, he was on the box for the performance.  Also backing were Foskett, Darian  and Totten.

Had the chance to meet Mark London who was very nice and gave some great insight into the box set (it IS coming out, never fear). Mark is in charge of the entire Booklet, approx 80 pages.  Will be filled with NUMEROUS unreleased and unseen photos. Said he was given access to a box of photos that had been stored in Brian's garage for years. ASked him iof the boys themselves had any input in the tracklist--"oh absolutely!" As for a release date, he still says November is possibile, but may indeed be pushed back because they "just f*cked with the tracklist" . There will be a lot of unrealeased material, but he didn't go into specifics.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Lowbacca on September 19, 2012, 08:25:38 AM
Was any of it (amateur)filmed?  :-\

Thanks for the report, southbay!


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: smilethebeachboysloveyou on September 19, 2012, 08:30:53 AM
It was a great event.  The band played 5 songs--SG, Cal Girls, Help Me Rhonda (introduced by Brian stating, "I', really in the mood to hear Al Jardine sing..."), Kokomo, and I Get Around after about an 1 of talk.  I tried but did not get to ask a qiuestion.  Most questions were typically lame. When asked what was "on his buscket list?", Brian stated "What is a bucket list?"   After having the concept explained to him, Brian replied that he "would really like to record a rock n' roll album with the boys". Huge applause all around. AL and David seconded that. When asked on follow up if there were definite plans on a new album, Brian replied no definite plans, but they would likely be back in the studio after the first of the year. When asked about their various solo ventures, Al stated he had no interest in that, "this is the band (pointing to the group)."  He stated that they plan on continuing on this configuration, or something to that effect, I lost the direct quote. No quotes from either Mike or Bruce on these topics, but Brian, Al and David were very vocal and upbeat about the future of the band together.

Although that was not Cowsill in the facebook pic, he was on the box for the performance.  Also backing were Foskett, Darian  and Totten.

Had the chance to meet Mark London who was very nice and gave some great insight into the box set (it IS coming out, never fear). Mark is in charge of the entire Booklet, approx 80 pages.  Will be filled with NUMEROUS unreleased and unseen photos. Said he was given access to a box of photos that had been stored in Brian's garage for years. ASked him iof the boys themselves had any input in the tracklist--"oh absolutely!" As for a release date, he still says November is possibile, but may indeed be pushed back because they "just f*cked with the tracklist" . There will be a lot of unrealeased material, but he didn't go into specifics.

That sounds like great news all around, though I'm not sure how likely "likely" is.  Hopefully the reason that they "just f*cked with the tracklist" was because they are adding certain songs that are in high demand from fans.  This 80-page booklet sounds pretty good, too.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Rocker on September 19, 2012, 08:46:36 AM
Thanks southbay !

I wonder what Mark meant by "they f*cked with the tracklist". The Boys or Capitol? Maybe Mark can chime in when he's online and is allowed to give further info. Maybe Mike had a whole disc planned for the "Kokomo"-sessions....


Regarding the going on in that configuration, I already mentioned enough times that I don't think it would be a good idea to do this long enough for boredom and conflicts to set in. Sometimes you have to know when to stop. But otherwise if Brian and Al want to continue they can easily (I guess it is quite easy) stop Mike from going out as "The Beach Boys" by not giving him or renewing the license. Whatever, we'll see it.



Was any of it (amateur)filmed?  :-\

Thanks for the report, southbay!


Look at the first pic in this thread. There are cameras  ;)





EDIT:

Facebook:

(http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/486894_4397099897259_635226703_n.jpg)

Is that triple-platinum for Sounds Of Summer?


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Mikie on September 19, 2012, 08:57:25 AM
Damn right. You ever seen those glorious untamed locks when the man's pounding on them drums? Majestic.

Well.........I'm a guy so I wasn't really looking at his hair flying around. I was more into his skills at playing the drums and especially the sound he was projecting.  He's an excellent drummer.  His brothers and sister were/are very talented musicians and singers too.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: MaxL on September 19, 2012, 09:04:05 AM
Damn right. You ever seen those glorious untamed locks when the man's pounding on them drums? Majestic.

Well.........I'm a guy so I wasn't really looking at his hair flying around. I was more into his skills at playing the drums and especially the sound he was projecting.  He's an excellent drummer.  His brothers and sister were/are very talented musicians and singers too.

Definitely a brilliant drummer and (from what I've seen and read) a top-notch guy too. The hair is just part of the bigger picture. Anyway, I think there's a more interesting topic for discussion in here than Mr Cowsill's hair (though I'm delighted the chance to discuss it came up and to have been a part of it).


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: runnersdialzero on September 19, 2012, 09:06:45 AM
As another poster put it already: no Foskett, no Beach Boys.

Uh huh.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: LetHimRun on September 19, 2012, 09:22:58 AM
Thanks southbay !

I wonder what Mark meant by "they f*cked with the tracklist". The Boys or Capitol? Maybe Mark can chime in when he's online and is allowed to give further info. Maybe Mike had a whole disc planned for the "Kokomo"-sessions....


Regarding the going on in that configuration, I already mentioned enough times that I don't think it would be a good idea to do this long enough for boredom and conflicts to set in. Sometimes you have to know when to stop. But otherwise if Brian and Al want to continue they can easily (I guess it is quite easy) stop Mike from going out as "The Beach Boys" by not giving him or renewing the license. Whatever, we'll see it.



Was any of it (amateur)filmed?  :-\

Thanks for the report, southbay!


Look at the first pic in this thread. There are cameras  ;)





EDIT:

Facebook:

(http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/486894_4397099897259_635226703_n.jpg)

Is that triple-platinum for Sounds Of Summer?

Yes, 3x Platinum for SOS.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Mikie on September 19, 2012, 09:23:35 AM
Right on, Scruff.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Justin on September 19, 2012, 09:31:49 AM
It was a great event.  The band played 5 songs--SG, Cal Girls, Help Me Rhonda (introduced by Brian stating, "I'm really in the mood to hear Al Jardine sing..."), Kokomo, and I Get Around after about an hour of talk.  I tried but did not get to ask a qiuestion.  Most questions were typically lame. When asked what was "on his buscket list?", Brian stated "What is a bucket list?"   After having the concept explained to him, Brian replied that he "would really like to record a rock n' roll album with the boys". Huge applause all around. AL and David seconded that. When asked on follow up if there were definite plans on a new album, Brian replied no definite plans, but they would likely be back in the studio after the first of the year. When asked about their various solo ventures, Al stated he had no interest in that, "this is the band (pointing to the group)."  He stated that they plan on continuing on this configuration, or something to that effect, I lost the direct quote. No quotes from either Mike or Bruce on these topics, but Brian, Al and David were very vocal and upbeat about the future of the band together.

Although that was not Cowsill in the facebook pic, he was on the box for the performance.  Also backing were Foskett, Darian  and Totten.

Had the chance to meet Mark London who was very nice and gave some great insight into the box set (it IS coming out, never fear). Mark is in charge of the entire Booklet, approx 80 pages.  Will be filled with NUMEROUS unreleased and unseen photos. Said he was given access to a box of photos that had been stored in Brian's garage for years. ASked him iof the boys themselves had any input in the tracklist--"oh absolutely!" As for a release date, he still says November is possibile, but may indeed be pushed back because they "just f*cked with the tracklist" . There will be a lot of unrealeased material, but he didn't go into specifics.

Nice job on the review!  Sounds like a fun evening.  It is especially great to hear Brian and Al's comments about the current lineup.  Very promising!


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Quzi on September 19, 2012, 10:04:48 AM
As another poster put it already: no Foskett, no Beach Boys.

Uh huh.

Glad to see you guys see the importance of Foskett, he's a key player in the current tour configuration and without him, nothing that transpired this year would be possible. I bet everyone here was thinking "Who'll be able to sing all of these songs now that everyone in the Beach Boys have completely obliterated their voices within an inch of their lives and no one in the world except 1966 Brian knows how to transcribe songs to a more comfortable to sing in key?!!" FOSKETT THAT'S WHO!!! :P

(http://i47.tinypic.com/mmdkao.png)

Friends, my basement is filled with about 40 boxes worth of these shirts and since you both seem to sing Foskett's praises as strongly as I do (pun intended), I'd be honoured in shipping a few out to each of you :)

Viva la Foskett!!!

p.s. Love You?!?!!! More like Hate You!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! xD


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: CenturyDeprived on September 19, 2012, 10:18:41 AM
I was very lucky to get a question in at the Q&A portion of the night’s event… unfortunately, my question didn’t exactly have much impact. I asked the band if they could tell us anything about the (Brian + Mike) song “All I Wanna Do”. (I figured mentioning it was a Brian + Mike tune would make the question have a bit more impact).  I was hoping for just a glimpse of info similar to 50 Sides of The Beach Boys, where the band would tell an interesting story and new facts would be unearthed…

But…Brian didn’t seem to recall it by title, but Bruce and Mike seemed to remember it a bit, and sang a couple of lines from it. I guess I was just hoping for some insight into one of their most beloved (by superfans) and neglected songs, but the Q&A Moderator moved right on after the band seemed to shrug. Bummer. Maybe if I’d asked them about “Cool, Cool Water” they’d have perked up and told an interesting anecdote. Or perhaps “Still I Dream of It”.

Strangely, on the way driving to the museum, I was actually debating about asking them about either “All I Wanna Do” or “I Went to Sleep”, and to my surprise, a lady in the audience asked them about “I Went to Sleep”, which fell upon nearly the same non-response as my question.



Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: TimmyC on September 19, 2012, 10:42:01 AM
This whole post made my day. Southbay - I love you man.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Mikie on September 19, 2012, 11:00:37 AM
Anticipating the arrival of Mr. Stebbins........


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Shady on September 19, 2012, 12:04:40 PM
Those plaques look so cool..


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: southbay on September 19, 2012, 12:22:56 PM
I was very lucky to get a question in at the Q&A portion of the night’s event… unfortunately, my question didn’t exactly have much impact. I asked the band if they could tell us anything about the (Brian + Mike) song “All I Wanna Do”. (I figured mentioning it was a Brian + Mike tune would make the question have a bit more impact).  I was hoping for just a glimpse of info similar to 50 Sides of The Beach Boys, where the band would tell an interesting story and new facts would be unearthed…

But…Brian didn’t seem to recall it by title, but Bruce and Mike seemed to remember it a bit, and sang a couple of lines from it. I guess I was just hoping for some insight into one of their most beloved (by superfans) and neglected songs, but the Q&A Moderator moved right on after the band seemed to shrug. Bummer. Maybe if I’d asked them about “Cool, Cool Water” they’d have perked up and told an interesting anecdote. Or perhaps “Still I Dream of It”.

Strangely, on the way driving to the museum, I was actually debating about asking them about either “All I Wanna Do” or “I Went to Sleep”, and to my surprise, a lady in the audience asked them about “I Went to Sleep”, which fell upon nearly the same non-response as my question.



Ha, that was you?  Great question as was the I Went Sleep question.  Couldn't believe (well, maybe I can) that Mike said, "what album was that on?" to your question... And there were professional cameras all over that joint filming


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: runnersdialzero on September 19, 2012, 12:31:52 PM

Couldn't believe (well, maybe I can) that Mike said, "what album was that on?" to your question... And there were professional cameras all over that joint filming

Brian couldn't even remember the song, and considering they've put out like ninety-four album and thousands of compilations, it's probably easy to forget which song was on which album sometimes.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: southbay on September 19, 2012, 12:32:14 PM
There are plenty of cool pictures from last night over at gettyimages.com.  Search the beach boys


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 19, 2012, 12:34:49 PM
I was very lucky to get a question in at the Q&A portion of the night’s event… unfortunately, my question didn’t exactly have much impact. I asked the band if they could tell us anything about the (Brian + Mike) song “All I Wanna Do”. (I figured mentioning it was a Brian + Mike tune would make the question have a bit more impact).  I was hoping for just a glimpse of info similar to 50 Sides of The Beach Boys, where the band would tell an interesting story and new facts would be unearthed…

But…Brian didn’t seem to recall it by title, but Bruce and Mike seemed to remember it a bit, and sang a couple of lines from it. I guess I was just hoping for some insight into one of their most beloved (by superfans) and neglected songs, but the Q&A Moderator moved right on after the band seemed to shrug. Bummer. Maybe if I’d asked them about “Cool, Cool Water” they’d have perked up and told an interesting anecdote. Or perhaps “Still I Dream of It”.

Strangely, on the way driving to the museum, I was actually debating about asking them about either “All I Wanna Do” or “I Went to Sleep”, and to my surprise, a lady in the audience asked them about “I Went to Sleep”, which fell upon nearly the same non-response as my question.



This article mentions your question. Nice one! ;D

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/2012/09/the_beach_boys_remeber_the_goo.php


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Shady on September 19, 2012, 12:38:18 PM
The future is looking bright  ;D

Thanks Southbay

EDIT:

I can't believe Mike doesn't even remember what album "All I wanna do" was on  :thud


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Rocker on September 19, 2012, 12:40:16 PM
I was very lucky to get a question in at the Q&A portion of the night’s event… unfortunately, my question didn’t exactly have much impact. I asked the band if they could tell us anything about the (Brian + Mike) song “All I Wanna Do”. (I figured mentioning it was a Brian + Mike tune would make the question have a bit more impact).  I was hoping for just a glimpse of info similar to 50 Sides of The Beach Boys, where the band would tell an interesting story and new facts would be unearthed…

But…Brian didn’t seem to recall it by title, but Bruce and Mike seemed to remember it a bit, and sang a couple of lines from it. I guess I was just hoping for some insight into one of their most beloved (by superfans) and neglected songs, but the Q&A Moderator moved right on after the band seemed to shrug. Bummer. Maybe if I’d asked them about “Cool, Cool Water” they’d have perked up and told an interesting anecdote. Or perhaps “Still I Dream of It”.

Strangely, on the way driving to the museum, I was actually debating about asking them about either “All I Wanna Do” or “I Went to Sleep”, and to my surprise, a lady in the audience asked them about “I Went to Sleep”, which fell upon nearly the same non-response as my question.



This article mentions your question. Nice one! ;D

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/2012/09/the_beach_boys_remeber_the_goo.php


Nice pictures there as well:


(http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/assets_c/2012/09/BeachBoys2-001-thumb-550x369.jpg)

(http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/assets_c/2012/09/BeachBoys3-001-thumb-550x369.jpg)

(http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/assets_c/2012/09/BeachBoys1-001-thumb-550x369.jpg)



Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Reddiwhip on September 19, 2012, 01:10:14 PM
The future is looking bright  ;D

Thanks Southbay

EDIT:

I can't believe Mike doesn't even remember what album "All I wanna do" was on  :thud

He may have wanted to make sure you weren't talking about All I Want To Do from 20/20  ;)


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: CenturyDeprived on September 19, 2012, 01:12:08 PM
In advance, I tried to head off any possible confusion between "All I Want to Do" and "All I Wanna Do" that could have happened, which is why I specified "Sunflower" and it being a "Brian + Mike" song... but in the context of the evening, the question still fell flat :(  I don't think they were confused between the 2 songs, I think they just literally have never had any reason to think of, or even listen to "All I Wanna Do" in 40 years, despite the band's supposed collective love for the Sunflower album as a whole.

Man, I wish this band loved their deep cuts as much as their fans do.

And that is hilarious about the O.C. Weekly mention of my question!


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on September 19, 2012, 01:16:38 PM
In advance, I tried to head off any possible confusion between "All I Want to Do" and "All I Wanna Do" that could have happened, which is why I specified "Sunflower" and it being a "Brian + Mike" song... but in the context of the evening, the question still fell flat :(  I don't think they were confused between the 2 songs, I think they just literally have never had any reason to think of, or even listen to "All I Wanna Do" in 40 years, despite the band's supposed collective love for the Sunflower album as a whole.

Man, I wish this band loved their deep cuts as much as their fans do.

And that is hilarious about the O.C. Weekly mention of my question!

"All I Wanna Do" was mentioned the last time Mike was at the Grammy Museum (for the Ca. Saga show), and he sang a little bit of it there too.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: CenturyDeprived on September 19, 2012, 01:33:57 PM
In advance, I tried to head off any possible confusion between "All I Want to Do" and "All I Wanna Do" that could have happened, which is why I specified "Sunflower" and it being a "Brian + Mike" song... but in the context of the evening, the question still fell flat :(  I don't think they were confused between the 2 songs, I think they just literally have never had any reason to think of, or even listen to "All I Wanna Do" in 40 years, despite the band's supposed collective love for the Sunflower album as a whole.

Man, I wish this band loved their deep cuts as much as their fans do.

And that is hilarious about the O.C. Weekly mention of my question!

"All I Wanna Do" was mentioned the last time Mike was at the Grammy Museum (for the Ca. Saga show), and he sang a little bit of it there too.

This is true - and that was actually also me at the Cal Saga show who brought it up then too! I'd really hoped with the whole band there last night, we'd get a tidbit or 2 of info about the song. That song seems to be a mystery and I'd love to uncover some info about it.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Shady on September 19, 2012, 01:36:44 PM
In advance, I tried to head off any possible confusion between "All I Want to Do" and "All I Wanna Do" that could have happened, which is why I specified "Sunflower" and it being a "Brian + Mike" song... but in the context of the evening, the question still fell flat :(  I don't think they were confused between the 2 songs, I think they just literally have never had any reason to think of, or even listen to "All I Wanna Do" in 40 years, despite the band's supposed collective love for the Sunflower album as a whole.

Man, I wish this band loved their deep cuts as much as their fans do.

And that is hilarious about the O.C. Weekly mention of my question!

"All I Wanna Do" was mentioned the last time Mike was at the Grammy Museum (for the Ca. Saga show), and he sang a little bit of it there too.

This is true - and that was actually also me at the Cal Saga show who brought it up then too! I'd really hoped with the whole band there last night, we'd get a tidbit or 2 of info about the song. That song seems to be a mystery and I'd love to uncover some info about it.

 :lol :lol

Nice going! As a huge fan of "All I wanna" I seriously appreciate that 


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Aegir on September 19, 2012, 01:39:38 PM
what's so mysterious about All I Wanna Do?


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: CenturyDeprived on September 19, 2012, 01:40:26 PM
In advance, I tried to head off any possible confusion between "All I Want to Do" and "All I Wanna Do" that could have happened, which is why I specified "Sunflower" and it being a "Brian + Mike" song... but in the context of the evening, the question still fell flat :(  I don't think they were confused between the 2 songs, I think they just literally have never had any reason to think of, or even listen to "All I Wanna Do" in 40 years, despite the band's supposed collective love for the Sunflower album as a whole.

Man, I wish this band loved their deep cuts as much as their fans do.

And that is hilarious about the O.C. Weekly mention of my question!

"All I Wanna Do" was mentioned the last time Mike was at the Grammy Museum (for the Ca. Saga show), and he sang a little bit of it there too.

This is true - and that was actually also me at the Cal Saga show who brought it up then too! I'd really hoped with the whole band there last night, we'd get a tidbit or 2 of info about the song. That song seems to be a mystery and I'd love to uncover some info about it.

 :lol :lol

Nice going! As a huge fan of "All I wanna" I seriously appreciate that 

Sigh - thanks, I tried! It's infuriating as a big fan to have giant swaths of this band's history just ignored or brushed to the side... bummer that I picked too obscure a nugget to get some info on. However, I did run into Bruce earlier that evening in the hall, and got him to sing a couple of lines of "Don't Run Away"...


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: runnersdialzero on September 19, 2012, 01:44:54 PM
what's so mysterious about All I Wanna Do?

Nothing.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: CenturyDeprived on September 19, 2012, 01:48:28 PM
what's so mysterious about All I Wanna Do?

I guess I haven't seemed to find any bits of info on its inception - such as if it was specifically recorded for an album (I know it was on Sunflower, but hard to say if it was a bit of a one-off type of recording 20/20-style, or specifically intended as a song as part of a collection of songs)...

As well, to my ears, it sounds so different from any other BB songs from that period, and really seems to be a (wonderful) anomaly in their catalog. Seems like it was an attempt at a certain psychedelic proto-shoegaze direction that they never fully explored further (perhaps Feel Flows has a bit of that tripped out, psychedelic direction), but I've never really heard another Brian song like it.

The fact that it was a Brian-Mike song makes it all the more interesting. The fact that Mike sings a bit of falsetto on it makes it even more unique. The song just plain rules, and it's seemingly been completely ignored by the band. I feel that this direction, if more fully explored at the time, could have gotten the band some respect in the then-modern rock realm. As much as I love Sunflower, imagine a fully-formed, cohesive album with more songs like All I Wanna Do... perhaps that's a glimpse of what the band's output would've sounded like if SMiLE had been finished, and he had remained the main songwriter...


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: runnersdialzero on September 19, 2012, 01:55:06 PM
For starters, we know it's actually a Mike song that Brian helped expand upon. No idea who wrote what. Otherwise, it may just be another song they wrote like many other songs. There may not be much of a story to tell, I mean.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: CenturyDeprived on September 19, 2012, 01:56:38 PM
For starters, we know it's actually a Mike song that Brian helped expand upon. No idea who wrote what. Otherwise, it may just be another song they wrote like many other songs. There may not be much of a story to tell, I mean.

That's cool, and something I have not heard before - where did you get this info (about it starting off as a Mike song)?


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Rocker on September 19, 2012, 02:03:25 PM
what's so mysterious about All I Wanna Do?

I guess I haven't seemed to find any bits of info on its inception - such as if it was specifically recorded for an album (I know it was on Sunflower, but hard to say if it was a bit of a one-off type of recording 20/20-style, or specifically intended as a song as part of a collection of songs)...



First, didn't Brian talk a bit about it in the booklet for Sunflower/Surf's Up?
And then you'd ask Stephen Desper. Maybe he has something to add.


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The fact that Mike sings a bit of falsetto on it makes it even more unique.

I believe that is Bruce doing the falsetto (a gentle thought comes in m-y-y mi-i-i-ind). You can hear a different voice take over after Mike's "when I sit and close my eyes"


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Aegir on September 19, 2012, 02:06:19 PM
If that's Bruce, it's Bruce doing a really good Mike impression.

It wouldn't surprise me if Mike had to record the falsetto part separate from the rest of the vocal take, but I'm pretty sure it's still him.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: monicker on September 19, 2012, 03:08:04 PM
I believe that is Bruce doing the falsetto (a gentle thought comes in m-y-y mi-i-i-ind). You can hear a different voice take over after Mike's "when I sit and close my eyes"

There is definitely no vocal trading off there. That's all Mike.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: smilethebeachboysloveyou on September 19, 2012, 03:20:18 PM

First, didn't Brian talk a bit about it in the booklet for Sunflower/Surf's Up?
And then you'd ask Stephen Desper. Maybe he has something to add.


According to Timothy White's liner notes, he said that "it was a real nice one" and proceeded to sing part of the song.  He doesn't provide any information about the writing or recording of the song (or at least none that appears there).


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Autotune on September 19, 2012, 05:11:48 PM
Did Brian seem recovered from his back problems?


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Jon Stebbins on September 19, 2012, 07:07:57 PM
It was an awesome event. The curator described it as the biggest night in Grammy Museum history, and the entire affair was conducted with the kind of respect towards the Beach Boys that any fan would appreciate. The exhibit is really tasteful and has some one-of-a-kind items that made the collector in me drool... a little. But the main attraction was that the guys themselves were there...and to mingle and chat with them is still a thrill because they are legends, and they created such lasting beauty with their songs. It still completely blows my mind how good they were...and are.

On this night the Beach Boys were personable with the fans and press, Brian seemed good. He seems happy to be IN HIS band again. The Q&A was hilarious with both Brian and David talking about past substance issues with candor, and Mike physically acting out what a drunken 14 year-old David looked like...all five got off funny one-liners at various points in the chat. It was relaxed and intimate. When Brian enthusiastically mentioned that he hoped to record another Beach Boys album in the months ahead, and Al pointedly said he wanted to keep the momentum gained this year moving forward as a group, to me Mike and Bruce's body language seemed just a little uncomfortable. Behind the scenes there was more talk from Al about wanting to keep the group together, and its obvious that Brian and Dave are loving what has happened with the reunion. Why would anyone not want to keep that chemistry intact?

The acoustic performance was excellent, and again natural and relaxed. I really think the spiritual element of the five of them together is a positive for Brian, like the fingers on a hand, it all works together instinctively. I'm talking about the whole range of things, from greeting the crowd, to chatting about themselves, to joking among themselves, to rehearsing, performing, and just making a sound together. Brian knows its right. He wants to explore it further. It would suck if he doesn't get the chance.

There were some notables in the audience like Micky Dolenz, Barbara Wilson, Dennis' sons Michael and Carl, Carl's sons Justin and Jonah and their mom Annie. Joe Thomas was there and was very accessible, i even talked to him about the fact that some fans prefer the album version of Isn't It Time to the new single mix.  ;) He took it well. Vicky Peterson of the Bangles was there (of course hanging with John Cowsill), Rodney Bingenheimer, Mark London, Harvey Kubernick and many other old L.A. friends. I even ran into Eddie Roach later in the night. In general the event had that energized and giddy feeling that something does when the balance of fan fueled excitement and VIP intimacy is just right. Cowsill, Scott Totten, Jeffrey Foskett and Darian Sahanaja lent their usual perfect support to the principals while playing music, and while doing all the other stuff that's required on a happening night like this one. It was a team effort and it was a home run.

I want to thank Howie Edelson and Paki Newell for giving me total access to the event, and to Dave Marks for offering me a place to crash for the night. I passed because I had to get home to my family for today's round of being a busy dad. But as I drove the three hours up the coast in the wee hours, i thought back to the earnest excitement I saw in Brian's eyes when he was talking about wanting to record more with these Beach Boys. He sees the potential for another chapter, and maybe if things fall into place again like they did this year, we might get one more shot of that Beach Boys bliss. If not, what a year, and what a gift this has been.

(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p614/Jonstebbins/StebbinsBeachBoys_zps581b4f0b.jpg)


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: 18thofMay on September 19, 2012, 07:24:10 PM
Thanks for that Jon! Awesome!!


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: ivy on September 19, 2012, 07:33:27 PM
Thank you guys for the reviews. Jon, that picture is so awesome. Especially the part where you're blocking Bruce hahaha.

I really love the Pendletone touch! But in another shirt-related matter, who let Mike and Dave where the same incredibly busy-patterned shirt?

Brian replied that he "would really like to record a rock n' roll album with the boys".

Brian's great Rock n' Roll album has overtaken Smile as the most anticipated Beach Boys album of all time.


When asked about their various solo ventures, Al stated he had no interest in that, "this is the band (pointing to the group)."  He stated that they plan on continuing on this configuration, or something to that effect.

Wow, shiesty, Al!


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Don Malcolm on September 19, 2012, 08:09:32 PM
Beautiful write-ups, South Bay and Jon...much appreciated. Sounds like there is a lot of hope for more good things in the future.

And that's definitely a wonderful shot, Jon--you just command that spot on stage the way good ol' Jack Reiley used to back in the day!!!  ;D


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 19, 2012, 08:36:27 PM
When asked about their various solo ventures, Al stated he had no interest in that, "this is the band (pointing to the group)."  

But just in case it doesn't work out...

http://www.aljardine.com/booking.html


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: KittyKat on September 19, 2012, 10:34:08 PM
Can someone tell me what Mike sees in Bruce or what the rest of the band does (as in Brian)?  The more I've seen and heard of Bruce since this reunion, the more of a negative presence he seems to be.  He even called the latest album, and by extension Brian's work, a bunt, even after claiming he hadn't heard the whole thing.  Add in his general extreme rudeness to fans at times and the fact he never really contributed much at all to the music and can't sing too well anymore on a consistent basis.  I don't get it.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: DonnyL on September 19, 2012, 10:42:38 PM
It was an awesome event. The curator described it as the biggest night in Grammy Museum history, and the entire affair was conducted with the kind of respect towards the Beach Boys that any fan would appreciate. The exhibit is really tasteful and has some one-of-a-kind items that made the collector in me drool... a little. But the main attraction was that the guys themselves were there...and to mingle and chat with them is still a thrill because they are legends, and they created such lasting beauty with their songs. It still completely blows my mind how good they were...and are.

On this night the Beach Boys were personable with the fans and press, Brian seemed good. He seems happy to be IN HIS band again. The Q&A was hilarious with both Brian and David talking about past substance issues with candor, and Mike physically acting out what a drunken 14 year-old David looked like...all five got off funny one-liners at various points in the chat. It was relaxed and intimate. When Brian enthusiastically mentioned that he hoped to record another Beach Boys album in the months ahead, and Al pointedly said he wanted to keep the momentum gained this year moving forward as a group, to me Mike and Bruce's body language seemed just a little uncomfortable. Behind the scenes there was more talk from Al about wanting to keep the group together, and its obvious that Brian and Dave are loving what has happened with the reunion. Why would anyone not want to keep that chemistry intact?

The acoustic performance was excellent, and again natural and relaxed. I really think the spiritual element of the five of them together is a positive for Brian, like the fingers on a hand, it all works together instinctively. I'm talking about the whole range of things, from greeting the crowd, to chatting about themselves, to joking among themselves, to rehearsing, performing, and just making a sound together. Brian knows its right. He wants to explore it further. It would suck if he doesn't get the chance.

There were some notables in the audience like Micky Dolenz, Barbara Wilson, Dennis' sons Michael and Carl, Carl's sons Justin and Jonah and their mom Annie. Joe Thomas was there and was very accessible, i even talked to him about the fact that some fans prefer the album version of Isn't It Time to the new single mix.  ;) He took it well. Vicky Peterson of the Bangles was there (of course hanging with John Cowsill), Rodney Bingenheimer, Mark London, Harvey Kubernick and many other old L.A. friends. I even ran into Eddie Roach later in the night. In general the event had that energized and giddy feeling that something does when the balance of fan fueled excitement and VIP intimacy is just right. Cowsill, Scott Totten, Jeffrey Foskett and Darian Sahanaja lent their usual perfect support to the principals while playing music, and while doing all the other stuff that's required on a happening night like this one. It was a team effort and it was a home run.

I want to thank Howie Edelson and Paki Newell for giving me total access to the event, and to Dave Marks for offering me a place to crash for the night. I passed because I had to get home to my family for today's round of being a busy dad. But as I drove the three hours up the coast in the wee hours, i thought back to the earnest excitement I saw in Brian's eyes when he was talking about wanting to record more with these Beach Boys. He sees the potential for another chapter, and maybe if things fall into place again like they did this year, we might get one more shot of that Beach Boys bliss. If not, what a year, and what a gift this has been.

(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p614/Jonstebbins/StebbinsBeachBoys_zps581b4f0b.jpg)

really great post, Jon ... your perspective and insight makes me remember why I still read this board !


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: hypehat on September 20, 2012, 01:27:44 AM
Can someone tell me what Mike sees in Bruce or what the rest of the band does (as in Brian)?  The more I've seen and heard of Bruce since this reunion, the more of a negative presence he seems to be.  He even called the latest album, and by extension Brian's work, a bunt, even after claiming he hadn't heard the whole thing.  Add in his general extreme rudeness to fans at times and the fact he never really contributed much at all to the music and can't sing too well anymore on a consistent basis.  I don't get it.

He does have fantastic legs.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Lowbacca on September 20, 2012, 01:38:21 AM
Can someone tell me what Mike sees in Bruce or what the rest of the band does (as in Brian)?  The more I've seen and heard of Bruce since this reunion, the more of a negative presence he seems to be.  He even called the latest album, and by extension Brian's work, a bunt, even after claiming he hadn't heard the whole thing.  Add in his general extreme rudeness to fans at times and the fact he never really contributed much at all to the music and can't sing too well anymore on a consistent basis.  I don't get it.

He does have fantastic legs.
True. Plus, these days you need any half-legit Beach Boy you can get.  ;) He's been with them (and with Mike) for far too long.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Rocker on September 20, 2012, 04:04:33 AM
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I believe that is Bruce doing the falsetto (a gentle thought comes in m-y-y mi-i-i-ind). You can hear a different voice take over after Mike's "when I sit and close my eyes"

There is definitely no vocal trading off there. That's all Mike.


Your opinion. I hear different. I've got no problem should I be wrong but right now I'm quite sure it's Bruce


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Jaco on September 20, 2012, 05:43:32 AM
Beach Boys Wrap 50 Years As Questions Arise About Their 51st
http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/industry/legal-and-management/beach-boys-wrap-50-years-as-questions-arise-1007953922.story

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The only thing certain about future releases from the reunited Beach Boys is a live album that Capitol will release in 2013.


and

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In their acoustic set after the Q&A in front of an SRO crowd that included Monkee Mickey Dolenz, fabled L.A. disk jockey Rodney Bingenheimer, lyricist Joe Thomas and Beach Boys' family members, they performed five songs that will appear on both of the next Beach Boys compilations - "50th Anniversary Greatest Hits" and the two-CD "Greatest Hits: 50 Big Ones." The two collections will be released Oct. 9.

On Oct. 9, 12 remastered studio albums will be released with mono and stereo mixes. "It's really for the collectors market," EMI Music North America senior VP, catalogue, Jane Ventom told Billboard.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Rocker on September 20, 2012, 08:02:13 AM

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In their acoustic set after the Q&A in front of an SRO crowd that included Monkee Mickey Dolenz, fabled L.A. disk jockey Rodney Bingenheimer, lyricist Joe Thomas and Beach Boys' family members, they performed five songs that will appear on both of the next Beach Boys compilations - "50th Anniversary Greatest Hits" and the two-CD "Greatest Hits: 50 Big Ones." The two collections will be released Oct. 9.


Maybe that means just that the songs will appear on the CDs and not these particular performances of said songs. That's how I would understand it.


I think this is very interesting, though:

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The band members kept the focus on the tour, their history and the exhibit, but members of the musicians' camps found the timing of Love's announcement, at the very least, curious. Several people close to the Beach Boys said they could have easily added another dozen dates in the U.K. In addition, Wilson has continued writing for a follow-up album to "That's Why God Made the Radio" and has four songs in the vein of the album's suite of "Strange World"/"From There to Back Again"/"Pacific Coast Highway."





BTW I never knew if the surfboard on the Surfer Girl and Surfin' Safari covers belonged to Dennis or was just a prop from Capitol. Neat to know that it is Dennis' and that it is there in the museum. Is it the one he got from Murry/bought himself when he was a teenager?


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Jon Stebbins on September 20, 2012, 10:10:56 AM
Thanks to 18th of May, Ivy, Don and Donny L for the nice comments about my post. Feels good to know this board still connects us in a positive way.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Aegir on September 20, 2012, 10:26:40 AM
Jon, I hope you don't feel underappreciated here. It's contributions from experts like you that make it worth sifting through the silly stuff.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: runnersdialzero on September 20, 2012, 10:28:06 AM
Jon, I hope you don't feel underappreciated here. It's contributions from experts like you that make it worth sifting through the silly stuff.

Seconded.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: hypehat on September 20, 2012, 10:45:34 AM
Jon, I hope you don't feel underappreciated here. It's contributions from experts like you that make it worth sifting through the silly stuff.

Seconded.

Thirded!


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: TimmyC on September 20, 2012, 10:54:44 AM
Fourthed! sorry... seriously though awesome post by Jon. Thanks for sharing your insights on the board. It's very cool of you.

As for Bruce, c'mon he's basically been with the band since 1965. He's contributed at least one classic (Disney Girls) and produced two of their albums. I think of him as every bit a core member as the other 4, particularly Dave who was a full time beach boy for a total of what, 3 years at the most (early 60s, late 90s). And I say this as someone who was treated VERY rudely by Bruce at a VIP event before a show in May (and it almost ruined the show for me). I don't get his hot and cold personality, but he is a Beach Boy through and through. I don't think there's any doubt about that.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Smilin Ed H on September 20, 2012, 11:11:30 AM
Thanks Jon!


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Jon Stebbins on September 20, 2012, 11:20:18 AM
Wow...its a love-fest! Unleash the...errr. Thanks to all for the nice words.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Eric Aniversario on September 20, 2012, 11:25:16 AM
Can someone tell me what Mike sees in Bruce or what the rest of the band does (as in Brian)?  The more I've seen and heard of Bruce since this reunion, the more of a negative presence he seems to be.  He even called the latest album, and by extension Brian's work, a bunt, even after claiming he hadn't heard the whole thing.  Add in his general extreme rudeness to fans at times and the fact he never really contributed much at all to the music and can't sing too well anymore on a consistent basis.  I don't get it.
Bruce is very important to Mike...he puts the "S" in The Beach BoyS touring band.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: runnersdialzero on September 20, 2012, 11:26:44 AM
Bruce's "bunt" comment befuddles me to no end. What SHOULD the album have been?


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Exapno Mapcase on September 20, 2012, 11:33:54 AM
Ah, Bruce.  You gotta love him. Don't you?  Hello?  Anyone?


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on September 20, 2012, 12:17:17 PM
Bruce's "bunt" comment befuddles me to no end. What SHOULD the album have been?

Duh. "She Believes In Love Again" would have made this album a HOME RUN!


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 20, 2012, 12:36:28 PM

Oh dear! ;D


http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118059504.html?cmpid=RSS

Can we go surfing now?

By Craig Modderno

The Beach Boys weren't exactly in a party mood Tuesday at L.A.'s Grammy Museum, which is celebrating the group's 50th anniversary.
"I just got back from Australia. I don't know why we had to do this today since the band is exhausted," explained Al Jardine.

"I can't even think about this tonight since we've got two major concerts to do in London before I'm free to go surfing," echoed Bruce Johnston.

"It seems like another meet and greet where we're ushered around for no special reason," said Mike Love.

Onstage Brian Wilson looked eager to leave, telling host Robert Santelli at one point to just open up questions from the aud. But the boys came alive for a five-song acoustic set, which included high-harmony classics "Surfer Girl" and "California Girls."


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Justin on September 20, 2012, 01:02:22 PM
haha that's good stuff.  Nice to see the other side of the "we're happy to be here" one-liners we've been getting.  The guys do deserve a break. 


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: SMiLE Brian on September 20, 2012, 01:05:55 PM

Oh dear! ;D


http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118059504.html?cmpid=RSS

Can we go surfing now?

By Craig Modderno

The Beach Boys weren't exactly in a party mood Tuesday at L.A.'s Grammy Museum, which is celebrating the group's 50th anniversary.
"I just got back from Australia. I don't know why we had to do this today since the band is exhausted," explained Al Jardine.

"I can't even think about this tonight since we've got two major concerts to do in London before I'm free to go surfing," echoed Bruce Johnston.

"It seems like another meet and greet where we're ushered around for no special reason," said Mike Love.

Onstage Brian Wilson looked eager to leave, telling host Robert Santelli at one point to just open up questions from the aud. But the boys came alive for a five-song acoustic set, which included high-harmony classics "Surfer Girl" and "California Girls."

Grumpy old men. ;D


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: CenturyDeprived on September 20, 2012, 01:32:06 PM
Was nice chatting with you after the show, Jon. What an amazing night.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 20, 2012, 02:14:54 PM
Jon, I hope you don't feel underappreciated here. It's contributions from experts like you that make it worth sifting through the silly stuff.

Amen. Jon's a great writer, and from everything I've heard (and from my own observations, both here and on Facebook) seems like a hell of a cool guy.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Shady on September 20, 2012, 02:18:23 PM
Man, the boys are still the most fascinating band in the world..

You gotta love the drama


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on September 20, 2012, 02:58:43 PM
Jon, I hope you don't feel underappreciated here. It's contributions from experts like you that make it worth sifting through the silly stuff.

Amen. Jon's a great writer, and from everything I've heard (and from my own observations, both here and on Facebook) seems like a hell of a cool guy.

Jon's "Beach Boys Image Problems" ("too many fat guys" :P) bit from his FAQ book is hilarious and is worthy of Lester Bangs at his best!


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Jon Stebbins on September 20, 2012, 05:40:29 PM
Thanks Mr. moderator and Erik...and Century thanks for the nice chat after the Grammy show, we even talked to Joe Thomas right? Glad to hear you're a "We'll Run Away" advocate too.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 20, 2012, 05:44:04 PM
Thanks Mr. moderator and Erik...and Century thanks for the nice chat after the Grammy show, we even talked to Joe Thomas right? Glad to hear you're a "We'll Run Away" advocate too.

In case you're curious, this is Billy Castillo...I just change my username like once a week or so cause I get bored :lol


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: freedomaspirer on September 20, 2012, 06:02:20 PM
IMO, Bruce doesn't seem to have a lot to do on this tour, he takes more leads on the M&B tour e.g Sloop John, Surfer Girl, DYWD, I would guess he's quite keen to get back into that.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Jon Stebbins on September 20, 2012, 06:03:35 PM
Thanks Mr. moderator and Erik...and Century thanks for the nice chat after the Grammy show, we even talked to Joe Thomas right? Glad to hear you're a "We'll Run Away" advocate too.

In case you're curious, this is Billy Castillo...I just change my username like once a week or so cause I get bored :lol
Hey Billy. Rock on, brother.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Rocker on September 20, 2012, 06:26:57 PM

Oh dear! ;D


http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118059504.html?cmpid=RSS

Can we go surfing now?

By Craig Modderno

The Beach Boys weren't exactly in a party mood Tuesday at L.A.'s Grammy Museum, which is celebrating the group's 50th anniversary.
"I just got back from Australia. I don't know why we had to do this today since the band is exhausted," explained Al Jardine.

"I can't even think about this tonight since we've got two major concerts to do in London before I'm free to go surfing," echoed Bruce Johnston.

"It seems like another meet and greet where we're ushered around for no special reason," said Mike Love.

Onstage Brian Wilson looked eager to leave, telling host Robert Santelli at one point to just open up questions from the aud. But the boys came alive for a five-song acoustic set, which included high-harmony classics "Surfer Girl" and "California Girls."




F*ck it guys. It's your damn job !!


Jon Stebbins: You know that we all appreciate your contributions to this board, don't you? I really treasure such inside info but I'm not always up to comment on it (I hope this doesn't come across as ungrateful or whatever). I really enjoyed reading your summarization of the evening because I think that you - after having written books about them - have a very healthy look on the guys and probably understand a bit more about the inside stuff than we do (if anyone can understand those f*cking old bastards  :lol :lol )


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Jonathan Blum on September 20, 2012, 07:12:35 PM
Jon, I hope you don't feel underappreciated here. It's contributions from experts like you that make it worth sifting through the silly stuff.

Fifteenthed.  Jon (S), it's thanks to you that I finally properly know and appreciate David Lee Marks, and way more about Dennis than I knew before.  You've got a wonderful level-headed perspective and a genuine sincere love for the whole shebang.  Kudos is yours!

Cheers,
Jon Blum


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: BB Universe on September 20, 2012, 07:25:21 PM
Yes, contributions to this Board from people such as Jon Stebbins, Andrew Doe, and others such as them are priceless and appreciated to no ends.
Paraphrasing that old EF Hutton commercial - when someone like a Jon Stebbins posts, people listen!
Thanks so much.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: ivy on September 20, 2012, 07:56:45 PM

Oh dear! ;D


http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118059504.html?cmpid=RSS

Can we go surfing now?

By Craig Modderno

The Beach Boys weren't exactly in a party mood Tuesday at L.A.'s Grammy Museum, which is celebrating the group's 50th anniversary.
"I just got back from Australia. I don't know why we had to do this today since the band is exhausted," explained Al Jardine.

"I can't even think about this tonight since we've got two major concerts to do in London before I'm free to go surfing," echoed Bruce Johnston.

"It seems like another meet and greet where we're ushered around for no special reason," said Mike Love.

Onstage Brian Wilson looked eager to leave, telling host Robert Santelli at one point to just open up questions from the aud. But the boys came alive for a five-song acoustic set, which included high-harmony classics "Surfer Girl" and "California Girls."


Really??????? Hahahaha. I'd say the Grammy Museum must be a little miffed but the guys just earned them more in a day than what they usually earn in weeks.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Cam Mott on September 20, 2012, 08:33:41 PM
Sounds like normal old man talk to me.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Sam_BFC on September 21, 2012, 02:34:51 AM
Just to echo what others are saying re: the well informed contributions from Jon S et al; glad to see you're still around these parts.  I always read your posts, but rarely comment, because I don't really have much to add to the discussion!


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Quzi on September 21, 2012, 02:42:51 AM
I'd like to take all of these echoes, add my own, and then feed the whole lot into Sunset Sound's best echo chamber.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Rocker on September 21, 2012, 03:31:44 AM
Facebook:

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Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Emdeeh on September 21, 2012, 05:52:13 AM
Review and photo here:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/beach-boys-grammy-museum-exhibit-371631

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Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Rocker on September 21, 2012, 10:33:34 AM
Review and photo here:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/beach-boys-grammy-museum-exhibit-371631

(http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/2012/09/beach_boys_a_h.jpg)









OUCH !!


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Discussing the band’s early influences, Love said, “The chorus of ‘Kokomo’ comes from ‘Smokey Joe’s Café,’ ” referring to the Mike Leiber-Jerry Stoller

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Santelli’s timeline of Marks’ and Jardine’s early days “replacing each other” in the band

Jon, did you chime in?


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: runnersdialzero on September 21, 2012, 10:55:09 AM
lol @ "Join us!" mid-"Surfer Girl".


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: STE on September 21, 2012, 12:18:04 PM

And here is the video!

http://youtu.be/MudGEyCi2Yk (http://youtu.be/MudGEyCi2Yk)




Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Rocker on September 21, 2012, 12:21:59 PM
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And here is the video!

http://youtu.be/MudGEyCi2Yk (http://youtu.be/MudGEyCi2Yk)






Thanks !


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Jon Stebbins on September 21, 2012, 12:25:41 PM

OUCH !!


Quote
Discussing the band’s early influences, Love said, “The chorus of ‘Kokomo’ comes from ‘Smokey Joe’s Café,’ ” referring to the Mike Leiber-Jerry Stoller

Quote
Santelli’s timeline of Marks’ and Jardine’s early days “replacing each other” in the band

Jon, did you chime in?
I thought Santelli handled everything great. He gave Dave plenty of space to describe the nuance in the Al/Dave Dave+Al lineups, and the myth that surrounds the "usual" written history of the band's genesis. David did a perfect job, his crack that he was 10 when Surfin was recorded was a well-timed joke. But Dave's description of the timeline and history of he and Al's time in the band together was spot on. Of course Al isn't as clear about those days, or anything else. But it was a good natured and informative exchange, and Santelli gave it plenty of breathing room.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on September 21, 2012, 12:27:11 PM
Man.. love when BW hits that riff at 3:22. Dude's still got it!!


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on September 21, 2012, 12:31:53 PM

And here is the video!

http://youtu.be/MudGEyCi2Yk (http://youtu.be/MudGEyCi2Yk)




Oh sweet, finally! thanks


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Rocker on September 21, 2012, 12:47:43 PM
Brian yawning during Kokomo !!  :lol


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: HeyJude on September 21, 2012, 01:33:17 PM
Did the grammy museum jump the gun on the release date for the "50 Big Ones/Greatest Hits" sets?  :lol   Capitol doesn't like that!


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Lowbacca on September 21, 2012, 01:46:00 PM

And here is the video!

http://youtu.be/MudGEyCi2Yk (http://youtu.be/MudGEyCi2Yk)

Thanks!!! Made my day..


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: the professor on September 21, 2012, 01:58:29 PM
Playing it over and over--deep thanks. So much less of Jeff than at Dodger stadium. . . .

Dave's playing is great, and I can hear him singing. Check out his great solo on HMR.

And these men have to settle this issue of the future now before we all get too frustrated with the confusion. (see the raging thread on this subject).



Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Rocker on September 21, 2012, 02:09:57 PM

OUCH !!


Quote
Discussing the band’s early influences, Love said, “The chorus of ‘Kokomo’ comes from ‘Smokey Joe’s Café,’ ” referring to the Mike Leiber-Jerry Stoller

Quote
Santelli’s timeline of Marks’ and Jardine’s early days “replacing each other” in the band

Jon, did you chime in?
I thought Santelli handled everything great. He gave Dave plenty of space to describe the nuance in the Al/Dave Dave+Al lineups, and the myth that surrounds the "usual" written history of the band's genesis. David did a perfect job, his crack that he was 10 when Surfin was recorded was a well-timed joke. But Dave's description of the timeline and history of he and Al's time in the band together was spot on. Of course Al isn't as clear about those days, or anything else. But it was a good natured and informative exchange, and Santelli gave it plenty of breathing room.


Thanks Jon. Sounds good


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 21, 2012, 02:14:55 PM
Mike in the same get up as his last visit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x0L1NCq_xE&feature=related


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 21, 2012, 02:24:02 PM
Brian yawning during Kokomo !!  :lol

Looked more like he is trying to keep down his dinner! ;D


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: CenturyDeprived on September 21, 2012, 04:04:09 PM
Thanks Mr. moderator and Erik...and Century thanks for the nice chat after the Grammy show, we even talked to Joe Thomas right? Glad to hear you're a "We'll Run Away" advocate too.

Indeed, I'm of the opinion that "We'll Run Away" (as well as the coincidentally-named Bruce/Terry tune "Don't Run Away") are 2 of the most underrated (or at least generally unknown except by HUGE fans) BB/BB-related tunes from the pre-Pet Sounds era. Nice chatting with you and meeting Joe Thomas, he's an imposing guy and I can understand now how he could've previously been a wrestler!


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on September 21, 2012, 04:26:45 PM
I think Brian yawning might be a side-affect of one (or a combination) of his meds. I don't think he's ever actually bored when he does that! Same deal with the eye closing and nose twitching, I'd venture to guess.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Autotune on September 21, 2012, 04:49:12 PM
Lovely video.
Reminiscent of all the things we're gonna miss once the wishes of those who don't want this group to keep performing are fulfilled.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: HeyJude on September 21, 2012, 04:57:21 PM
I think Brian yawning might be a side-affect of one (or a combination) of his meds. I don't think he's ever actually bored when he does that! Same deal with the eye closing and nose twitching, I'd venture to guess.

Or..... he just yawned. Yawning isn't always either a sign of boredom or a side effect of medication. Sometimes you're kind of tired or not getting enough oxygen, and you yawn.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: 18thofMay on September 21, 2012, 05:14:33 PM
Did the grammy museum jump the gun on the release date for the "50 Big Ones/Greatest Hits" sets?  :lol   Capitol doesn't like that!
Capitol will be mighty pissed that you can buy it here in Australia, straight off the shelves, as of yesterday!!


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 21, 2012, 08:46:58 PM
You are right. Whoa! :o

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/music/pop-rock/50-big-ones-greatest-hits-limited-edition/673003

On NZ itunes also. Just got the IIT single.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Sound of Free on September 21, 2012, 09:39:58 PM
Jon, in addition to all you contributions to the board, thanks for clarifying Dave's rightful place in the band. I think your work is largely responsible for making Dave part of the reunion. It wouldn't have been the same without him.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: coco1997 on September 21, 2012, 09:59:16 PM
Darn, I was looking forward to hearing "I Get Around" from this set. Maybe a recording will surface later on.



Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: the professor on September 22, 2012, 09:28:49 AM
You are right. Whoa! :o

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/music/pop-rock/50-big-ones-greatest-hits-limited-edition/673003

On NZ itunes also. Just got the IIT single.
Pretty Funky, tell us about the single; how does it differ, in exact production details and overall quality, from the BBC you tube version we have nee living on. Please tell us it's "better." (if it is)

thanks


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: oldsurferdude on September 22, 2012, 09:56:11 AM
Brian yawning during Kokomo !!  :lol

Looked more like he is trying to keep down his dinner! ;D
Right!  I wouldn't blame him at all for hurling-it's a sickening song! ::)


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 22, 2012, 01:13:56 PM
You are right. Whoa! :o

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/music/pop-rock/50-big-ones-greatest-hits-limited-edition/673003

On NZ itunes also. Just got the IIT single.
Pretty Funky, tell us about the single; how does it differ, in exact production details and overall quality, from the BBC you tube version we have nee living on. Please tell us it's "better." (if it is)

thanks

Sorry Prof. I'm but a simple fan and hardly a techy but I have listened a couple of times each through my ipod and computer and it sounds great to my ears. Made for the radio for sure but a nice addition to, what is now the stripped down album version. Thank god the 'going steady' line has gone. That grated for me.

Also the samples for the '50' sound fantastic and clean. 'Darlin' has already been mentioned. I am tossing up whether to get the CD for the bonus cards etc.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Shady on September 22, 2012, 01:25:57 PM

And here is the video!

http://youtu.be/MudGEyCi2Yk (http://youtu.be/MudGEyCi2Yk)




The video's been set as private  :-\


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: the professor on September 22, 2012, 01:28:15 PM
Hey, that is very helpful. If it sounds good it is good. I look forward to hearing the song myself in 2 weeks. thank you for the reaction, and I look forward to hearing other people discuss the song too


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: kwan_dk on September 22, 2012, 03:18:23 PM
Anyone who've seen the Beach Boys exhibit care to write their opinion? As a museum curator, working on something like that would be a dream assignment and the short glimpses offered from the photos look as if there are some pretty interesting objects on display. So, what's featured besides what can be seen on the various shots and what do people who've seen it think?


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Rocker on September 23, 2012, 05:00:29 AM
Anyone who've seen the Beach Boys exhibit care to write their opinion? As a museum curator, working on something like that would be a dream assignment and the short glimpses offered from the photos look as if there are some pretty interesting objects on display. So, what's featured besides what can be seen on the various shots and what do people who've seen it think?


Thanks for that post ! It really would be neat to hear more about the exhibit, I agree.

I tried to see what Google would come up when I search for some pictures. Unfortunately no of the actual exhibit came up except with the Beach Boys standing before them. Anyway, here's what I found (that hopefully wasn't posted before):

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Be sure to open this in a new window. It's very big.

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Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: bgas on September 23, 2012, 07:30:59 AM
This exhibit should be a traveling show, so everyone everywhere has a chance to see it! 
That said, I'd think the photos would probably be the coolest part. along with Brian's letter, and Dennis' snare drum. 


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: the professor on September 23, 2012, 12:51:08 PM
the professor will go this week, by the weekend at the latest, and write up a report for those of you outside LA.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Emdeeh on September 23, 2012, 04:04:33 PM
Here's a photo of Carl's 12-string Gibson that's used in the exhibit:

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Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: monicker on September 23, 2012, 05:31:45 PM
Speaking of the Grammy exhibit, one of the articles posted in another thread mentioned that the exhibit has...a Paul McCartney signed copy of Sgt. Pepper's...does anyone have any idea why in the world this would be so?


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: KittyKat on September 23, 2012, 05:38:03 PM
Speaking of the Grammy exhibit, one of the articles posted in another thread mentioned that the exhibit has...a Paul McCartney signed copy of Sgt. Pepper's...does anyone have any idea why in the world this would be so?

It is so because there are people who only think the Beach Boys are legit due to a Beatle's endorsement of their artistic merit.  Including people who run the Grammy Museum.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on September 23, 2012, 06:31:01 PM
Speaking of the Grammy exhibit, one of the articles posted in another thread mentioned that the exhibit has...a Paul McCartney signed copy of Sgt. Pepper's...does anyone have any idea why in the world this would be so?

It is so because there are people who only think the Beach Boys are legit due to a Beatle's endorsement of their artistic merit.  Including people who run the Grammy Museum.

Maybe because Paul said somewhere that Pepper was inspired by Pet Sounds....


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Aegir on September 23, 2012, 11:29:45 PM
maybe it was Brian's copy?


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Rocker on September 24, 2012, 02:29:15 AM
Speaking of the Grammy exhibit, one of the articles posted in another thread mentioned that the exhibit has...a Paul McCartney signed copy of Sgt. Pepper's...does anyone have any idea why in the world this would be so?


No, it was a Pet Sounds copy signed by Paul and a Sgt. Pepper copy signed by Brian


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Aegir on September 24, 2012, 03:19:40 AM
what? that doesn't even make sense.

but I guess nothing makes sense in the world of the Beach Boys.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: kwan_dk on September 24, 2012, 06:38:52 AM
the professor will go this week, by the weekend at the latest, and write up a report for those of you outside LA.

Great. Looking forward to reading your view on the exhibit. I'm curious to hear if it presents a sugarcoated story of 'America's band' or if it also digs deeper and adresses band conflicts, drug use etc in order to give a more balanced, truthful representation of the group's history...


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: bgas on September 24, 2012, 01:50:35 PM
the professor will go this week, by the weekend at the latest, and write up a report for those of you outside LA.

Great. Looking forward to reading your view on the exhibit. I'm curious to hear if it presents a sugarcoated story of 'America's band' or if it also digs deeper and adresses band conflicts, drug use etc in order to give a more balanced, truthful representation of the group's history...

I sure don't see that being there!  My impression is it's an exhibit to show the greatness of the band.
 Why present conflicts, drugs, anything that's negative? what happened, happened; if  people  want to know more they can dig that stuff up for themselves
Sheesh@!!  It's not about a sugarcoating. It's a display to show the greatness of America's greatest band ever.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: kwan_dk on September 25, 2012, 02:47:28 PM

Great. Looking forward to reading your view on the exhibit. I'm curious to hear if it presents a sugarcoated story of 'America's band' or if it also digs deeper and adresses band conflicts, drug use etc in order to give a more balanced, truthful representation of the group's history...

I sure don't see that being there!  My impression is it's an exhibit to show the greatness of the band.
 Why present conflicts, drugs, anything that's negative? what happened, happened; if  people  want to know more they can dig that stuff up for themselves
Sheesh@!!  It's not about a sugarcoating. It's a display to show the greatness of America's greatest band ever.

I disagree - and mainly because the exhibit is at a museum (or at least something calling itself a museum - I've never been there) To me a museum exhibit would entail an attempt at presenting a thorough view on the group's history and not leaving out the, perhaps, less flattering elements of the story. Let's face it; those angles are just as important a part of what makes the Beach Boys unique as stating the obvious; how many hits they've had; how they defined the image of California youth and surf culture in song; how they toured all over the world etc. Let me put it in another way - if a new book came out that we're to represent the history of the Beach Boys but didn't touch upon more controversial topics and how this has affected the group, wouldn't you feel a bit dissapointed after reading it? I would - and I don't see why we shouldn't ask the same of an exhibit at a museum. ( the level of detail in an exhibit can/should of course never match a book, but that's a bit besides my point.

Obviously, with this being an exhibit / presentation of Beach Boys history officially endorsed by the group, it will probably downplay controversial topics such as band conflicts, drug use, mental problems etc. - I was just thinking that since the guys themselves have adressed such things before in interviews, in documentaries, books etc there might be a bit of that in the exhibit after all. I centainly think it would make the exhibit more interesting and true to group's history.

I work in the museum field for a living and if I was to develop an exhibit on the group, I wouldn't be afraid to touch upon such things as they could reveal angles on Beach Boys history that could be very interesting for the casual fan and those not knowing anything at all about the group's history. For instance, Brian's nervous breakdown and decision to quit touring during the 60s - on the face of it, this may seem like a negative angle, but it could just as well be another way of presenting the 'greatness of America's greatest band' as you put it. For the time it was an unheard-of and very brave decision - and it enabled Brian to take his music and production work to heights unheard of in the Pop music world. The breakdown itself also reveals the amount of pressure a hot group was under at that time with a release schedule that people nowadays would find out of this world. As for drug use, adressing that topic could be an interesting way of having museum guests understand the circumstances around Smile and why the music turned out the way it did & was ahead of its time etc. etc.
I'm just thowing off some random thoughts here and mainly to say that I don't see why you shouldn't be able to make a perfectly valid and respectful exhibit by adressing such things.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: ontor pertawst on September 25, 2012, 03:16:15 PM
Personally, I'm outraged this wasn't included.

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Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Don Malcolm on September 26, 2012, 09:04:51 AM
Personally, I'm outraged this wasn't included.

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That (and a whole lot more) will be in the Beach Boys exhibit to be curated by Nick Kent...  >:D


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Rocker on September 26, 2012, 12:04:24 PM
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Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: KittyKat on September 26, 2012, 07:29:10 PM
How do you represent drug use in a museum exhibit?  Sugar cubes and blotter paper to represent LSD?  Reddiwhip cans to represent inhalant abuse?  Pills?  Powders?  Empty bottles of booze?  A 3D holographic diorama recreating an LSD trip?  ???


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: ontor pertawst on September 26, 2012, 07:41:00 PM
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How do you represent drug use in a museum exhibit?  Sugar cubes and blotter paper to represent LSD?  Reddiwhip cans to represent inhalant abuse?  Pills?  Powders?  Empty bottles of booze?  A 3D holographic diorama recreating an LSD trip?

They'd need to take a cue from Lady Divine's Cavalcade of Perversions and have a tent with "actual junkies" consuming vats labeled DRUG or something.

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g190/beedubelhue/mm1.jpg)

"Step right up, folks - relive the horror of the 70s in slightly different shades of brown! The taste of bad coke and the smell of rancid hamburger debris will permeate your senses! Step right up, folks - see The True Story of The Beach Boys in a shocking, unflinching manner never before permitted! See actual surfers on drugs -- singing with increasingly rough voices that actually kinda suits certain kinds of material!"


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: KittyKat on September 27, 2012, 10:21:11 PM
The Rolling Stone magazine website posted several photos of the museum exhibit, with comments by Brian.  It includes photos I've never seen before and a close-up view of the Brian Wilson high school essay (you can actually read the whole thing if you zoom in on it). 


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Rocker on September 28, 2012, 05:50:19 AM
The Rolling Stone magazine website posted several photos of the museum exhibit, with comments by Brian.  It includes photos I've never seen before and a close-up view of the Brian Wilson high school essay (you can actually read the whole thing if you zoom in on it).  


Thanks for the info!
It's this, isn't it?
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictures/behind-the-scenes-with-brian-wilson-at-the-beach-boys-retrospective-20120927


BTW what about the instruments? Are they the original ones (including Carl's Jag)


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: KittyKat on September 28, 2012, 09:55:25 AM
The Rolling Stone magazine website posted several photos of the museum exhibit, with comments by Brian.  It includes photos I've never seen before and a close-up view of the Brian Wilson high school essay (you can actually read the whole thing if you zoom in on it).  


Thanks for the info!
It's this, isn't it?
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictures/behind-the-scenes-with-brian-wilson-at-the-beach-boys-retrospective-20120927


BTW what about the instruments? Are they the original ones (including Carl's Jag)

Yes, it is the same page.  I forgot to post a link.  It's almost as good as seeing it in person, because I'm not sure such a small display is worth a special trip unless you already live in the LA area.  I'd have to think those are the original instruments.  I'm not sure why they wouldn't be.  Even the surf board originally belonged to Dennis.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Jon Stebbins on September 28, 2012, 11:11:38 AM
The Rolling Stone magazine website posted several photos of the museum exhibit, with comments by Brian.  It includes photos I've never seen before and a close-up view of the Brian Wilson high school essay (you can actually read the whole thing if you zoom in on it).  


Thanks for the info!
It's this, isn't it?
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictures/behind-the-scenes-with-brian-wilson-at-the-beach-boys-retrospective-20120927


BTW what about the instruments? Are they the original ones (including Carl's Jag)

Yes, it is the same page.  I forgot to post a link.  It's almost as good as seeing it in person, because I'm not sure such a small display is worth a special trip unless you already live in the LA area.  I'd have to think those are the original instruments.  I'm not sure why they wouldn't be.  Even the surf board originally belonged to Dennis.
Regarding the instruments...the Gibson 12 string is Carl's, the snare drum is Dennis'. However, I'm fairly sure the Fender instruments are only examples of the orig. instruments...not the real ones. Al's white Strat was definitely stolen in about '65, so no way that's the orig....and from what I was told (by David) the Jag is a '62 model exactly like Carl's but not the orig. one. Don't know if the orig. Jag or white P-bass exist anymore. I doubt it. Most of their orig. '60's guitars were stolen... in the '60's.


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: the professor on September 29, 2012, 05:06:24 PM
Finally went to the museum, which is fun in itself--lots of musical documentaries and displays. The BB window display features lots of photos and programs and album--the kind of actual stuff you see displayed at the shows in the video.

Of particular note is a composition BW wrote for school on his philosophy of life; he got a B+, and the teacher wrote "quite an unfinished sound." Quite a strange comment from an ancient sister of mine; don't know what she meant.  The hand written lyrics to GOK is impressive too. Beyond that, expect no thrills nor information that we don't already know. Some Murray Wilson photos (from the old machine at Woolworth kind of thing).

No drugs, death nor misery. Dennis's snare, donated by his son Carl is great to see.

I would not fly to LA to see this, but it was worth the 10 minute drive and the 10 bucks for sure.

I was somewhat emotionally compromised by the events lately, fearing the band may not continue, so I was not my usualy overjoyed self--not the best way to se e the exhibit.



Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Justin on May 19, 2014, 11:41:48 AM
Video from event:

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,17611.0.html

Thanks to Jon Stebbins


(sorry for the bump up, folks--just updating the thread with the video Jon posted for our archives!)


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Lowbacca on May 19, 2014, 12:11:27 PM
Video from event:

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,17611.0.html

Thanks to Jon Stebbins


(sorry for the bump up, folks--just updating the thread with the video Jon posted for our archives!)
Good thinking.

<< "I Get Around" from that same night >> (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGbh9oQ5b8w)


Title: Re: Grammy Museum Los Angeles 9/18/12
Post by: Justin on May 19, 2014, 12:15:30 PM
Thanks for the clip Lowbacca!