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Title: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Rob Dean on September 10, 2012, 06:27:36 AM
Yep , blimey the boys are in for a busy week.

They are taping on Tuesday 25th Sept , am yet to find details for tickets :-(

No doubt they will also be on the 'couch' for the BBC One Show


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Rob Dean on September 10, 2012, 06:28:39 AM
Details

http://www.joolsholland.com/


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Cliff1000uk on September 10, 2012, 06:49:29 AM
Rob-you used to be able to apply for tickets for Jools but I heard recently that the people you see in the audience are BBC employees.

Hopefully I'm wrong but that's what I heard from someone who works there


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: CarlTheVoice on September 10, 2012, 07:08:32 AM
Rob-you used to be able to apply for tickets for Jools but I heard recently that the people you see in the audience are BBC employees.

Hopefully I'm wrong but that's what I heard from someone who works there


If that is true that is so unfair! No wonder audiences nowadays don't look too interested!

I expect there are plenty of fans who would give their arm and leg to be in the audiences of both these appearances, so this is a sad state of affairs. Hopefully I can get tickets to one of them, it would be amazing.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: CarlTheVoice on September 10, 2012, 07:17:17 AM
Tickets for Jools here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/showsandtours/shows/shows/later_with_jools_autumn12

Good luck for this.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Cliff1000uk on September 10, 2012, 07:33:29 AM
Aaaah, that's good. I know that at least a couple of shows recorded previously were made up of BBC employees but maybe these were done at short notice.

Anyway-good luck with the tickets-I may have to Google what illnesses last a week!


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: CarlTheVoice on September 10, 2012, 08:43:56 AM
Applying for these tickets would have no effect on getting the other Radio 2 tickets would it? Just want to be sure!


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: The Heartical Don on September 10, 2012, 08:44:12 AM
Details

http://www.joolsholland.com/

Cheers for that, Rob. And P.i.L. will be there too. The Boys and mr Lydon's troupe thus make up for the dreariness of Muse.

Thank heavens.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Myk Luhv on September 10, 2012, 09:12:19 AM
PIL and The Beach Boys is such a weird combination, haha. I wonder what they'll make of each other!


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: The Heartical Don on September 10, 2012, 09:35:04 AM
PIL and The Beach Boys is such a weird combination, haha. I wonder what they'll make of each other!

Indeed... I think we may assume that Lydon knows the BBs and BW, although what he thinks of them is a secret to yours truly; but Lydon is no stranger to pop history, I am sure, despite the fact that he seems pretty dismissive about many expressions of popular culture (which may well be 99% posing).

But vice versa, I do not think that Brian Wilson (nor Mike, nor Al, nor the others) could give you an informed exposé on the merits and shortcomings of Metal Box.

So, should they meet in person, and/or see each other perform, I guess the BBs are in for a surprise...  :-D


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Shady on September 10, 2012, 10:14:39 AM
Brian must want to make up for the last time he was there, oh boy, that was pretty bad


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Paulos on September 10, 2012, 10:47:44 AM
Wonder what songs they'll play, probably Good Vibratiosn, California Girls and Isn't It Time.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Aegir on September 10, 2012, 11:35:43 AM
How many songs do people usually play on this show? I've never actually seen a full episode.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Rocker on September 10, 2012, 11:39:09 AM
Great news ! Jools' show is a very good and tastefull thing. Brian was tehre to rpomote BWRG and did a stripped down set (They Can't Take..., God Only Knows, Good Vibrations and California Girls iirc) so I guess the Beach Boys will do the same thing. Anyway, I'm looking forward very much to seeng this


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Cabinessenceking on September 10, 2012, 02:55:32 PM
Great news ! Jools' show is a very good and tastefull thing. Brian was tehre to rpomote BWRG and did a stripped down set (They Can't Take..., God Only Knows, Good Vibrations and California Girls iirc) so I guess the Beach Boys will do the same thing. Anyway, I'm looking forward very much to seeng this

...but we must speculate on what will be performed on such an accoustic set?

No doubt Surfer Girl right? Other contenders are Surfin' USA, CalGirls, GV... Isn't It Time is a possibility I suppose. Are there other songs which could benefit from this.....like a surprise CCW or Mona?


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Cabinessenceking on September 10, 2012, 02:57:28 PM
Dream Set:

California Girls
Surfer Girl
Isn't It Time
Surf's Up
Good Vibrations

Imagine a Surf's Up performed accoustically? I would crap myself with awe if they could do that. Jools is all about artistic integrity anyway, so SU would gather a LOT of attention!


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Aegir on September 10, 2012, 03:12:06 PM
there's no way in hell they'd play a song that they haven't played live yet.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Cabinessenceking on September 10, 2012, 03:19:35 PM
there's no way in hell they'd play a song that they haven't played live yet.

Ofc, it's just another fan making another speculation. But it's quite interesting how the bands perhaps most acclaimed song is not included in anything. Al asked Brian if he wrote SU when discussing the sandbox.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Alex on September 10, 2012, 10:22:04 PM
I'd love if they did Feet, Tree, Vega-tables, and/or H.E.L.P.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Cliff1000uk on September 11, 2012, 02:05:36 AM
Or let Jools boogie woogie piano all over Hey Little Tomboy


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: hypehat on September 11, 2012, 02:50:22 AM
Brian got.... two songs and an interview last year? Right? That'll be the norm. Either that or they won't interview them and they'll get a third.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Lowbacca on September 11, 2012, 03:23:32 AM
Brian got.... two songs and an interview last year? Right? That'll be the norm. Either that or they won't interview them and they'll get a third.
As far as I remember three songs (TCTTAFM, CG, GV) were televised and they additionally recorded a stripped-down web-exclusive version of GOK. Guess it'll be 2-3 songs for the BBs, then.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: absinthe_boy on September 11, 2012, 04:08:57 AM
John Lydon and Brian Wilson were both honoured at the Mojo awards last year so they might have met already.

You can bet Lydon is aware of Wilson and the BB's. He's a clever and astute man.. Brian must be aware of the Sex Pistols but whether he will offer an opinion is entirely down to how he feels at the time.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: The Heartical Don on September 11, 2012, 06:31:51 AM
John Lydon and Brian Wilson were both honoured at the Mojo awards last year so they might have met already.

You can bet Lydon is aware of Wilson and the BB's. He's a clever and astute man.. Brian must be aware of the Sex Pistols but whether he will offer an opinion is entirely down to how he feels at the time.

Perhaps they'll do a duet with 'God Save The Queen'.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on September 11, 2012, 06:48:54 AM
I can't wait for Mike Love's rendition of "Anarchy in the UK."


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Rob Dean on September 11, 2012, 06:50:49 AM
John Lydon and Brian Wilson were both honoured at the Mojo awards last year so they might have met already.

You can bet Lydon is aware of Wilson and the BB's. He's a clever and astute man.. Brian must be aware of the Sex Pistols but whether he will offer an opinion is entirely down to how he feels at the time.

Perhaps they'll do a duet with 'God Save The Queen'.

"The Surfin' Regime"

How about " Funky Pretty Vacant " or even "EMI Capitol"   :lol


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Rob Dean on September 11, 2012, 06:54:20 AM
OR " Never Mind The Bollocks Here's Summer In Paradise "


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: LostArt on September 11, 2012, 07:18:07 AM
I know Brian appeared on Steve Jones' radio show, Jonesy's Jukebox, back in 2004 and again in 2009 (I think).  Brian sounded very relaxed and at ease with Jonesy.  I listened to the 2004 show a few years ago, but I don't remember specifics.  I tried to find links, but no luck.  Maybe someone else will have better luck.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: D409 on September 11, 2012, 08:07:36 AM
I can't wait for Mike Love's rendition of "Anarchy in the UK."
Couldn't get much worse than Spice Girl Mel C's rendition a few years ago, complete with ill-advised lyric changes :

"I am an anti-Christ, I am a Sporty Spice" !!! ???


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll on September 11, 2012, 08:13:57 AM
Dream Set:

California Girls
Surfer Girl
Isn't It Time
Surf's Up
Good Vibrations

Imagine a Surf's Up performed accoustically? I would crap myself with awe if they could do that. Jools is all about artistic integrity anyway, so SU would gather a LOT of attention!


Who would sing Surfs Up? Jeff? ugh :'( dont think Brian would risk singing it, maybe Al could somehow...probably not

Hope they dont play Isn't It Time. Its a nice enough song but its really just a nostalgic doo wop thing which would take the place of a classic which could be played


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Wah Wah Wah Ooooo on September 11, 2012, 08:46:55 AM
Dream Set:

California Girls
Surfer Girl
Isn't It Time
Surf's Up
Good Vibrations

Imagine a Surf's Up performed accoustically? I would crap myself with awe if they could do that. Jools is all about artistic integrity anyway, so SU would gather a LOT of attention!


Who would sing Surfs Up? Jeff? ugh :'( dont think Brian would risk singing it, maybe Al could somehow...probably not

Hope they dont play Isn't It Time. Its a nice enough song but its really just a nostalgic doo wop thing which would take the place of a classic which could be played

Brian could sing it with Jeff taking the insane high part and Bri splitting into a harmony part right there, just like the BWPS era. I'd love to hear them do it sometime, if for no other reason than to hear Al Jardine sing his lines from the recording.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: hypehat on September 11, 2012, 08:50:25 AM
Yep. Brian is, if anything, better these days than in 2004. His voice has more clarity and expression.


I wouldn't be surprised to see

TWGMTR
California Girls
Good Vibrations

mind.... we'd be lucky for a Pet Sounds tune.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Shady on September 11, 2012, 11:20:24 AM
If most likely won't be acoustic this time around.

If I remember last time Brian was just in the UK to do promo for his up and coming "final" UK performances, no gigs.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: PaulTMA on September 11, 2012, 12:22:01 PM
Or let Jools boogie woogie piano all over Hey Little Tomboy

This is one of these things that everyone claims happens, yet doesn't.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on September 11, 2012, 01:09:35 PM
If I remember last time Brian was just in the UK to do promo for his up and coming "final" UK performances, no gigs.

Correct - the tickets for the Gershwin gigs weren't moving at all well, so BW and the lite band flew over here to kickstart the sales. It worked well enough.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Doo Dah on September 11, 2012, 01:28:21 PM
I heard one of the Steve Jones / Brian shows, and I recall Steve playing either God Save the Queen or Anarchy in the UK. After the set, he asked Brian 'whaddaya think?' to which Brian responded, 'rocking!'

You're right, he did seem right at home. It was a good interview.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Rocker on September 11, 2012, 03:05:54 PM


Hope they dont play Isn't It Time.


I sure hope they will play it. I'd love to hear them doing their new single.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Aegir on September 11, 2012, 10:10:33 PM
Hope they dont play Isn't It Time. Its a nice enough song but its really just a nostalgic doo wop thing which would take the place of a classic which could be played

WHAT

THE

HELL ARE YOU ON ABOUT?

I absolutely hate it when old bands, especially my favorite, the Beach Boys, play their decades-old songs instead of their new shit. If you want to hear a live version of California Girls, you should've been listening the other five hundred billion times they played it. God, people like you are who the Beach Boys cater to and that's why they act like it's just surf, Pet Sounds (but only the singles!), Good Vibrations and Kokomo. WHICH I'M PRETTY TIRED OF.

I've only been a fan for 9 years and a hardcore fan for maybe six of those years, and I'm really fucking tired of hearing live versions of 409 and Little Deuce Coupe and Wouldn't It Be Nice and California Girls et fucking cetera. and I'm sure a lot of us are.  fuck.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll on September 12, 2012, 01:20:23 AM
Hope they dont play Isn't It Time. Its a nice enough song but its really just a nostalgic doo wop thing which would take the place of a classic which could be played

God, people like you are who the Beach Boys cater to and that's why they act like it's just surf, Pet Sounds (but only the singles!), Good Vibrations and Kokomo. WHICH I'M PRETTY TIRED OF.

I've only been a fan for 9 years and a hardcore fan for maybe six of those years, and I'm really fucking tired of hearing live versions of 409 and Little Deuce Coupe and Wouldn't It Be Nice and California Girls et fucking cetera. and I'm sure a lot of us are.  fuck.

yeah, you got me pegged, well done, i wear my Hawaii shirt to all the shows and go to the toilet if they play anything recorded post 66...hope they play kokomo with the cheer leaders as thats their best song. People like me are so annoying what with having opinions and stuff.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll on September 12, 2012, 01:22:04 AM
....


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Rocker on September 12, 2012, 04:46:33 AM
Hope they dont play Isn't It Time. Its a nice enough song but its really just a nostalgic doo wop thing which would take the place of a classic which could be played

God, people like you are who the Beach Boys cater to and that's why they act like it's just surf, Pet Sounds (but only the singles!), Good Vibrations and Kokomo. WHICH I'M PRETTY TIRED OF.

I've only been a fan for 9 years and a hardcore fan for maybe six of those years, and I'm really fucking tired of hearing live versions of 409 and Little Deuce Coupe and Wouldn't It Be Nice and California Girls et fucking cetera. and I'm sure a lot of us are.  fuck.

yeah, you got me pegged, well done, i wear my Hawaii shirt to all the shows and go to the toilet if they play anything recorded post 66...hope they play kokomo with the cheer leaders as thats their best song. People like me are so annoying what with having opinions and stuff.

 ;D


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Cliff1000uk on September 12, 2012, 04:56:57 AM
Or let Jools boogie woogie piano all over Hey Little Tomboy

This is one of these things that everyone claims happens, yet doesn't.
OK, granted that he doesn't play over the main bands, but he does play with some artists. Maybe my exaggeration for comic effect didn't come across too well!


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: CarlTheVoice on September 19, 2012, 12:29:35 AM
So, the deadline passed for applications on Monday - has anyone got any tickets for this one?!


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: hypehat on September 24, 2012, 01:46:42 PM
Bumping because The Beach Boys will be playing live tomorrow on the 30 minute edition of this, at 10pm   ;D


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Shady on September 24, 2012, 01:58:44 PM
Bumping because The Beach Boys will be playing live tomorrow on the 30 minute edition of this, at 10pm   ;D

Tomorrow? wow, the Boys are really making this an incredible week


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: CarlTheVoice on September 24, 2012, 02:48:21 PM
So, no one got tickets to this one either? Is it worth turning up at this one too?! It really makes me angry!!


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Rocker on September 25, 2012, 09:14:39 AM
Facebook:

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Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: hypehat on September 25, 2012, 10:09:53 AM
Hmm, might watch this tomorrow morning in order to skip through the transcendental bollocks that is Muse. But then..... Live on telly....


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Shady on September 25, 2012, 10:14:14 AM
I hope they do "Isn't it time" over TWGMTR


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Freddie French-Pounce on September 25, 2012, 10:31:33 AM
I'll be recording the audio for this too... I'm sure the video will be held by someone else - right?


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on September 25, 2012, 10:38:28 AM
I hope they do "Isn't it time" over TWGMTR

I think that's about right. I think they realise TWGMTR is too risky to do in that setting. Besides, the next single is Isn't It Time so they'll want to promote that as much as they can.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Disney Boy (1985) on September 25, 2012, 11:03:04 AM
I just hope Jools doesn't decide to join in and start playing awful 'boogie woogie' piano over their set, as he is extremely annoyingly prone to doing.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Aegir on September 25, 2012, 12:35:12 PM
Brian loves boogie woogie!


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: pixletwin on September 25, 2012, 12:49:06 PM
Pretty awesome seeing pics of The Beach Boys on  the same stage as Johnny Rotten.  :lol


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: STE on September 25, 2012, 02:01:42 PM


Do It Again



Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Lowbacca on September 25, 2012, 02:02:36 PM
Watching it NOW instead of learning for the exam tomorrow....  :3d

They're opening with "Do It Again"..


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: STE on September 25, 2012, 02:04:53 PM


Now Muse (yawn...)



Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Lowbacca on September 25, 2012, 02:05:42 PM
MUSE right after BBs is weird........ somebody please pan the camera over to Brian's face.  ^-^

EDIT: Is the whole show going to be like this? One song by the BBs, one song by MUSE, one song by... and then back to the BBs for another song before going 'round again?  :P


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: STE on September 25, 2012, 02:10:00 PM


Seems like...
Now PiL



Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: D409 on September 25, 2012, 02:11:09 PM
A marvellous rendition of Do It Again...but the whole show should really have been a Beach Boys special !


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: STE on September 25, 2012, 02:12:51 PM


BTW, for all of you non UKkers:  http://livetvcafe.net/video/SRYB965N9UH6/BBC-Two (http://livetvcafe.net/video/SRYB965N9UH6/BBC-Two)



Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: STE on September 25, 2012, 02:15:37 PM



Barbara Ann acoustic, just the guys (and Jeff)




Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Lowbacca on September 25, 2012, 02:16:05 PM
Interview!

Brian: "Hi, Jools!"

(...)

Bruce: "We're not through at all."

(...)


Now singing "Babs Ann" with Holland on piano.. Brian's nicely audible. Dumb song choice, though...  :P Good job to make the guys seem dated.



EDIT: Haha, THE XX following "Babs Ann"....  :lol :lol



Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: D409 on September 25, 2012, 02:20:07 PM
Looks like Jools Holland fulfilled his boogie woogie piano obligations on Barbara Ann there !  ;D


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: STE on September 25, 2012, 02:22:53 PM


Hey I don't mind this band playing now!  What was their name again?



Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: STE on September 25, 2012, 02:24:15 PM


Oh-oh!
That's Why God Made The Radio!



Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Lowbacca on September 25, 2012, 02:24:37 PM
"That's Why God Made The Radio"!

Brian's really going for it!


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Shady on September 25, 2012, 02:24:42 PM
Disaster


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: STE on September 25, 2012, 02:26:56 PM


Ouch!!



Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Lowbacca on September 25, 2012, 02:27:35 PM
Disaster
Vocally a little shaky here and there, but very lively. And Brian & Bruce very audible.  :)


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: CarlTheVoice on September 25, 2012, 02:28:34 PM
Every time I've heard that being played live it's been awful. They should do Isn't It Time instead. Carl would have thrown a million stares there!


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Lowbacca on September 25, 2012, 02:30:21 PM
Every time I've heard that being played live it's been awful. They should do Isn't It Time instead. Carl would have thrown a million stares there!
"Isn't It Time" would have been the better choice, no argument there.

Hmmm... "Do It Again", "Barbara Ann" (...  :P), "That's Why God Made The Radio" and that's it? Poor choices, Mike.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: BergenWhitesMoustache on September 25, 2012, 02:30:58 PM
Without wanting to be overly negative, TWGMTR, the song, is a total steamer. There is no such thing as a good version of it...it's one of those 'stunning return to form' songs artists of a certain age turn out that is then kindly forgotten within a couple of weeks


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Shady on September 25, 2012, 02:31:05 PM
Every time I've heard that being played live it's been awful. They should do Isn't It Time instead. Carl would have thrown a million stares there!
"Isn't It Time" would have been the better choice, no argument there.

Hmmm... "Do It Again", "Barbara Ann" (...  :P), "That's Why God Made The Radio" and that's it? Poor choices, Mike.

Awful choices, a total waste


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: The Shift on September 25, 2012, 02:33:11 PM
Not the best night they've ever had.

DIA was okay if a little lack-luster.
Barbara Ann round the piano without the backing band was a huge error of judgement as it just served to show the point their voices have reached now.
TWGMTR was a good band performance but vocally left wanting.

Foskett's falsetto was grating tonight (sorry, that's an old drum I've not personally banged much) and I'm wondering if his voice is beginning to break (!).  Is he even singing in the same key?

Al's voice, still the best preserved of the lot, was mixed way too low and lost; it could have redeemed the entire performance.

God, I love this band…


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: D409 on September 25, 2012, 02:35:22 PM
TWGMTR was ok, but let's see what else they play in the longer edition of the show later this week


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: The Shift on September 25, 2012, 02:35:57 PM
Disaster
Vocally a little shaky here and there, but very lively. And Brian & Bruce very audible.  :)

Lively?  A fair few smiles, but smiles evocative of the ol' Holywood/Vegas/showbiz circuit… didn't exactly get the impression that the smilers were enjoying themselves, though BW himself seemed more settled than in recent TV appearances,. I guess The BBs is a comforting environment for him.  Which is a good thing.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Lowbacca on September 25, 2012, 02:38:25 PM
Disaster
Vocally a little shaky here and there, but very lively. And Brian & Bruce very audible.  :)

Lively?  A fair few smiles, but smiles evocative of the ol' Holywood/Vegas/showbiz circuit… didn't exactly get the impression that the smilers were enjoying themselves, though BW himself seemed more settled than in recent TV appearances,. I guess The BBs is a comforting environment for him.  Which is a good thing.
It's been my favourite TV performance of TWGMTR so far. Far from perfect, of course.
And I'd really like to know whose idea the "Babs Ann" thing was... maybe Holland talked Mike into it?


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Freddie French-Pounce on September 25, 2012, 02:39:37 PM
here's Barbara ann for a quick listen

http://soundcloud.com/frederickjamesfrench-pounce/barabara-ann-live-on-later (http://soundcloud.com/frederickjamesfrench-pounce/barabara-ann-live-on-later)


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Lowbacca on September 25, 2012, 02:42:19 PM
here's Barbara ann for a quick listen

http://soundcloud.com/frederickjamesfrench-pounce/barabara-ann-live-on-later (http://soundcloud.com/frederickjamesfrench-pounce/barabara-ann-live-on-later)
Thanks. I kinda like that Brian's all over this, but where are the other guys? Al's lost in the mix, as Manning* pointed out.



*By the way dude, that bw.com link in your signature doesn't work (anymore).


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Justin on September 25, 2012, 02:48:02 PM
I think it's cool that Brian is perfectly audible on "Barbara Ann"...nice rendition.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Shady on September 25, 2012, 02:59:03 PM
One for the family album

(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/c0.0.240.240/p403x403/564721_10151183711822241_1354757730_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: ontor pertawst on September 25, 2012, 02:59:56 PM
They really need to team up and rip into Shortnin' Bread.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Lowbacca on September 25, 2012, 03:04:36 PM
One for the family album

(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/c0.0.240.240/p403x403/564721_10151183711822241_1354757730_n.jpg)
F*CK...yeahh!!!!


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: DJole on September 25, 2012, 03:13:41 PM
Do It Again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zfoyxinft6o&feature=plcp

That's Why God Made the Radio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXXFtr5RC64&feature=plcp

 ;)


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on September 25, 2012, 03:19:58 PM
Sounds pretty good. Foskett's a little flat at times, but it could be due to bad monitoring. Brian sounds pretty on throughout Barbara Ann. Agree that Al could've been louder.
 
Just great to see them still together & functioning at this point!


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Lowbacca on September 25, 2012, 03:25:29 PM
That's Why God Made the Radio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXXFtr5RC64&feature=plcp
Seeing it again I can only repeat myself: best TV performance of TWGMTR so far.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Shady on September 25, 2012, 03:31:41 PM
That's Why God Made the Radio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXXFtr5RC64&feature=plcp
Seeing it again I can only repeat myself: best TV performance of TWGMTR so far.

That's not saying much  ;)


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Lowbacca on September 25, 2012, 03:39:07 PM
That's Why God Made the Radio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXXFtr5RC64&feature=plcp
Seeing it again I can only repeat myself: best TV performance of TWGMTR so far.

That's not saying much  ;)
Well it's Brian and the Beach Boys on TV so the expectations are looooow to begin with... thus, any okay performance is a good performance (see Brian's last stint on Holland's show).


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Awesoman on September 25, 2012, 03:47:50 PM
One for the family album

(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/c0.0.240.240/p403x403/564721_10151183711822241_1354757730_n.jpg)
F*CK...yeahh!!!!

It only took him 70 years, but Brian finally figured out how to smile in a photo.  :-)


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Sam_BFC on September 25, 2012, 04:03:11 PM
I thought the Jools and Brian on piano bit during Barbara Ann was pretty awesome.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: HeyJude on September 25, 2012, 04:07:16 PM
Yeah, that sounded the same as every other performance of "...Radio": Teeting on the edge of going off the rails but just barely holding together. This one was mixed a bit differently, but same quality of performance. I think part of the problem, as I've probably said elsewhere, is that it's one of those songs without one single lead vocalist throughout. So it ends up sounding messy, with a bunch of guys popping in and out in unison, then some harmony, etc. Every TV show seems to mix Al down, and then realize he has the sort-of solo line "in my car", and punches his vocal up just soon enough to be a bit too late.  :lol


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 25, 2012, 04:11:48 PM
I thought the Jools and Brian on piano bit during Barbara Ann was pretty awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnobZToKXYQ

Also at mention of '25 years being half way through' (the 50th).

Bruce..."We're not through at all"


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Lowbacca on September 25, 2012, 04:18:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnobZToKXYQ
Thanks!

Quote from: Sam_BFC
I thought the Jools and Brian on piano bit during Barbara Ann was pretty awesome.
That was pretty neat, yeah. And I also don't think the boys sounded bad without the backing guys, it's just that playing "Barbara Ann" when you have a slot for 3 songs on such a show seems kinda... dumb.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Dave Modny on September 25, 2012, 04:31:19 PM
Yeah, that sounded the same as every other performance of "...Radio": Teeting on the edge of going off the rails but just barely holding together. This one was mixed a bit differently, but same quality of performance. I think part of the problem, as I've probably said elsewhere, is that it's one of those songs without one single lead vocalist throughout. So it ends up sounding messy, with a bunch of guys popping in and out in unison, then some harmony, etc. Every TV show seems to mix Al down, and then realize he has the sort-of solo line "in my car", and punches his vocal up just soon enough to be a bit too late.  :lol


Bingo.

I'll just add that, difficulty as a live track aside, they still don't seem to perform it with the greatest level of confidence after 4 months, IMHO. That is, it's still tentative. Their body language almost seems to say, "We know this is our a latest offering that we hoped would be a smash, but we'll be glad when we don't have to do it ever again."...lol.

On the contrary, slight raggedness and mixing issues aside, it was kind of cool to see them do Barbara Ann in its original "unplugged Party" style, as nature intended, with the harmonies as the main attraction. I've always wished they would do it in concert like this, other than just as the dumb token rocker sing-a-long.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on September 25, 2012, 04:55:21 PM
Re: TWGMTR It's pretty bad. Not horrible, but not very good in the slightest. If they sound like this doing it live, I shudder to think of how much studio trickery went into making it sound like it does on the record.

On the plus side, the guys look good.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Autotune on September 25, 2012, 05:01:29 PM
Watching these videos kinda made my day. After all the sh*t I've reading these last few days. Seeing them together, made me remember why I love these guys so much and why I cherish this reunion. I thought TWGMTR was ok and DIA and BA were very good, if lacking in the mix department a little bit. It's remarkable that a pro music show such as this could not put together a professional mix of the band (granted, it's a tough group to mix).

I also LOVED watching Brian here. Looking great after the back proceeding.

Here's to many more years of these guys making music together.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Rob Dean on September 25, 2012, 05:07:59 PM
One for the family album

(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/c0.0.240.240/p403x403/564721_10151183711822241_1354757730_n.jpg)

Did anyone notice after TWGMTR that our Johnny boy couldn't stop clapping our boys ?
Listen to his shows on BBC Radio , he really has a love for great music ( and butter ) bless him 


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Dave Modny on September 25, 2012, 05:38:46 PM
Re: TWGMTR It's pretty bad. Not horrible, but not very good in the slightest. If they sound like this doing it live, I shudder to think of how much studio trickery went into making it sound like it does on the record.



I truly do believe it's moments like this where Carl is missed the most as the live glue that held things together.

My feeling is that he would've whipped this one into game shape from the get-go, which in turn, would've erased any tentativeness right from the start. The song probably would've been built around a lead vocal by him, as well as obviously having him as one of the anchors in the harmony stack to help prevent things from teetering on the edge or falling apart -- even as layered and more difficult as the song might be to execute live for the guys this late in the game.

Carl nearly always had the band on the right foot with new material for TV performances. Think something like virgin tunes such as "KTSA" and "Goin On'" as they were performed on Fridays in 1980, and which were taped right around the time they started performing the songs live. Those might actually surpass the studio versions.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Generation42 on September 25, 2012, 06:55:44 PM
Carl nearly always had the band on the right foot with new material for TV performances. Think something like virgin tunes such as "KTSA" and "Goin On'" as they were performed on Fridays in 1980, and which were taped right around the time they started performing the songs live. Those might actually surpass the studio versions.

Yeah they do!  "Keepin' the Summer Alive" live on Fridays really rocks.  I actually watched that performance before ever  hearing the studio version, and boy, what a let down after hearing it sound so good before.

Edit: Oh, and back OT, "Barbara Ann" was pretty cool.  Sounded good with a light-hearted sense of fun (as "Barbara Ann" should)!


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on September 25, 2012, 07:13:44 PM
There were plenty of train wrecks when Carl was on stage, too. If you take Brian out of the mix on the live TWGMTR, the song would be significantly better. Significantly.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on September 25, 2012, 07:22:00 PM
Just watched the videos:

God Made The Radio was kinda meh somehow, they seemed a bit tired on vocals? but still nice, looks like people enjoyed.

Do It Again was quite cool :)

But man, Barbara Ann was great! kinda weird to see Foskett under the light but jeez, that was really awesome to see them sing all together with no effects almost a capella, Brian doing piano with Jools, and Jools himself mentioning the album Holland! that's like, one of the best Beach Boys video ever, and it will probably be somehow the last time we'll see that, or that they'll go out there.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Justin on September 25, 2012, 07:43:04 PM
Gotta agree there Ziggy.  As much as "Barbara Ann" was a weird choice especially when you only have 3 songs to do---it was worth it just to get them around the piano like that and singing that song with no band or frills...just their voices.   Seeing Brian jam out on the keys was especially rewarding.  That was quite the moment. 

"Radio" had some rough spots, no doubt.  What's with that song and playing it on TV?  Always been bad news so far.  "Isn't It Time" should have been performed.  Ah well.....


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 25, 2012, 07:47:00 PM
Poll here for the show for anyone interested.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/poll/2012/sep/25/later-jools-holland


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on September 25, 2012, 07:56:22 PM
You the man, Justin!  :afro


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Justin on September 25, 2012, 08:16:11 PM
 :hat


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Shady on September 25, 2012, 08:44:19 PM
Poll here for the show for anyone interested.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/poll/2012/sep/25/later-jools-holland

I'm so temped to start a new topic for this..

Come Beach Boys fans, vote!


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Dave Modny on September 25, 2012, 10:09:37 PM
There were plenty of train wrecks when Carl was on stage, too. If you take Brian out of the mix on the live TWGMTR, the song would be significantly better. Significantly.


That's not what I'm suggesting. Of course, they had bad performances with and without Carl from any given era. I'm saying that one would rarely see a *new* song still trying to find its mojo after 4 months when (an obviously healthy) Carl was around, or even often from the get-go, and this one is still giving the band fits -- both in arrangement and execution. Particularly for a single that they hoped would make a strong, positive impression on the unwashed viewing masses -- which I don't think these recent TV performances of the song do. I'm also saying that the tune would've most likely featured Carl in a prominent vocal role, and it would've been all the better for it live.

Now, I'll concede part of "Radio's" problems might have to do with the song's inherent vocal structure, bad mixes, *individual* elements within any given performance, aging.......none that can be directly related to Carl......but I can't honestly say that the live TV versions of "Radio" have improved much, if any, since the first one on Fallon as a whole. It's usually just different degrees of ragged for whatever reason. Leno, QVC...this one. The fact that they've chosen to use faked-up versions for certain "live" airings of the song probably speaks volumes for their own grasp of it.

And yes, I agree that Brian's live vocals don't really help the band's cause with this song. Though, I think the shadowing by Foskett makes things sound just as sloppy on TV, and it only highlights Brian's, at times, off-key singing in the tune when it occurs. I know what the solution is, but...... :)


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: stack-o-tracks on September 25, 2012, 10:24:32 PM
I thought the Jools and Brian on piano bit during Barbara Ann was pretty awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnobZToKXYQ

Also at mention of '25 years being half way through' (the 50th).

Bruce..."We're not through at all"

Not usually a fan of this song but this is awesome.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: stack-o-tracks on September 25, 2012, 10:25:09 PM
there should be more stuff like this that they do.

what's with that guy at 3:21?  ???


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: runnersdialzero on September 25, 2012, 10:48:28 PM
And yes, I agree that Brian's live vocals don't really help the band's cause with this song. Though, I think the shadowing by Foskett makes things sound just as sloppy on TV, and it only highlights Brian's, at times, off-key singing in the tune when it occurs. I know what the solution is, but...... :)

While Brian is off key fairly often, Jeff isn't a great deal better. This coupled with different inflections and, erm, syncopation, makes for a bit of a trainwreck sometimes. Dissonance, screwy timing, etc. Brian's "mistakes" are much more glaring when someone else is doubling him, it sounds so much worse than if he were doing it himself.

Just let Brian sing his songs, for f***'s sake. It doesn't matter if he starts screaming "LET'S GO MOTHER f*cker" mid-"Good Vibrations", it's his song and he can "LET'S GO MOTHER f*cker" if he wants to.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Phoenix on September 25, 2012, 11:02:21 PM
here's Barbara ann for a quick listen

http://soundcloud.com/frederickjamesfrench-pounce/barabara-ann-live-on-later (http://soundcloud.com/frederickjamesfrench-pounce/barabara-ann-live-on-later)
Thanks. I kinda like that Brian's all over this, but where are the other guys? Al's lost in the mix, as Manning* pointed out.





Ditto on both counts!


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Dave Modny on September 26, 2012, 12:21:44 AM
And yes, I agree that Brian's live vocals don't really help the band's cause with this song. Though, I think the shadowing by Foskett makes things sound just as sloppy on TV, and it only highlights Brian's, at times, off-key singing in the tune when it occurs. I know what the solution is, but...... :)

While Brian is off key fairly often, Jeff isn't a great deal better. This coupled with different inflections and, erm, syncopation, makes for a bit of a trainwreck sometimes. Dissonance, screwy timing, etc. Brian's "mistakes" are much more glaring when someone else is doubling him, it sounds so much worse than if he were doing it himself.



Yep. It's that clashing quality that makes the whole affair all the more sloppy. Their intonation and phrasing are too far apart. I mean, I get *why* they're doing it, and it may have helped at some point and in certain live lead situations with Brian, it just doesn't really work anymore unless we're talking some kind of 90-10 ratio, and if that's the case, it defeats what they're trying to do to begin with. Hell, it doesn't work on the current performances that utilized Jeff along with Al's still-virtually-intact lead voice on WIBN.

Even in the studio, in terms of Brian's modern voice, my personal preference for most of his upbeat and upfront lead vocals these days is just his single-tracked voice, with perhaps the occasional odd note tuned-up or the occasional doubling. It's one of the reasons I don't care for his first-verse vocal on the *album* version of "Isn't It Time"(*). That is, "pitchy" double-tracked vocals clashing with each other on certain lines (e.g. "all been said"). They're too far apart in terms of intonation to work. Conversely, on the single version, it sounds like they opted instead to use only one of the vocals -- more pleasing on the lines in question -- with a large heaping of slap-back (and the additional harmony, of course)

*On a related note, in terms of that original album version of "Isn't It Time," I never noticed until recently that there's a somewhat jarring edit, punch or obvious comp on that first-verse line, right after the word "feeling" and before the word "of" (or whatever technique they used to piece Brian's vocal together). More audible while wearing cans. Now, whenever I listen to the album version with headphones, I hear that flippin' thing every time! Conversely, on the new single version, it's not as noticeable to me. So...that's a good thing, too. :)


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Cliff1000uk on September 26, 2012, 12:29:18 AM
Or let Jools boogie woogie piano all over Hey Little Tomboy

This is one of these things that everyone claims happens, yet doesn't.

 :) :)

Seriously, though-DIA was a great opener, Barbara Ann was good just to see them around the piano and TWGMTR, well, as said before, just doesn't seem to come off well on TV!


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: hypehat on September 26, 2012, 02:03:48 AM
Perfectly servicable Do It Again, Barbara Ann was cute (and how often do you get to say Brian is the loudest Beach Boy in the mix?) with some bitchin' Mike bass riffin'. TWGMTR.... eh. It's a really difficult song! I'm amazed they keep trying to do it. Agree that they're all having fun, which is lovely to see!


One thing to bear in mind is that whilst the songs might be the same on Friday in the hour long version, the performances might be altered, or mixed differently. I've seen it happen a lot, sometimes they'll punch in different takes and things. So anyone not at Wembley can report...


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Exapno Mapcase on September 26, 2012, 04:16:59 AM
Well, TWGMTR was a bit flat in places, but it wasn't only Brian who was off. To be honest, I think the arrangement doesn't work. It's as if it needs an extra voice.  Do It Again was about par, though Mike seemed to be a little weak, as he did on NPR and on the BBC radio show; Barbara Ann was pretty good - for once and the arsehole who is forever coming on here saying, "I don't hear Brian," was surely satisfied...


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on September 26, 2012, 05:17:00 AM
Check the very end of the Barbara Ann video - Brian gets up to leave the piano and a crew member has to rush over and touch his arm to let him know he has to stay there!


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Luke_Barshack on September 26, 2012, 05:26:59 AM
Check the very end of the Barbara Ann video - Brian gets up to leave the piano and a crew member has to rush over and touch his arm to let him know he has to stay there!

I noticed this too. A little embarrassing perhaps but I love how Brian seems like a law unto himself. He looks like he genuinely enjoys playing the tune with everyone but then figures, quite logically really, 'That was cool, I'll be off now!'

Little genuine appreciation for TV etiquette. A start contrast to Bruce's (superb) towing of the party line and constant confirming of the corporate positive media message.

BA was the best performance of the show in my opinion - by a very long way.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Rocker on September 26, 2012, 05:49:46 AM
I'm going to take a look at the performances now. But the constellation of songs they played is dumb. Totally dumb. Not even promoting the new single. I had hoped for something like Brian's solo performance on Jools. He played Cal. Girls, GOK, They can't take that away from me and GV.
Barbara *goshdarnit* Ann ? Can't believe it (wouldn't be surprised if this was idea)


EDIT:
Still everytime they play Do It Again now I just have to think about how terrible it sounded in '96 at the Fan Fair in Nashville and how good and at times even great it sounds nowadays


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Jaco on September 26, 2012, 06:08:30 AM
Can't understand all the Jeff bashing that sometimes is going on... I think without Jeff the group could not play these shows at all. His voice has a different tone quality then let's say Matt Jardine, but he can sing, and in very good good pitch. (His lead on DWB is also stellar)

TWGMTR was good (after all it's the freakin' Beach Boys!), but also a little 'meh'. I mean SERIOUS it was again awful and very hurtin' my ears. I like the studio version, but I've still not heard any good live version. it S.U.C.K.S. again (sorry). I sometimes think Brian wrote on purpose something impossible to sing. (a secret f%#$#^ck you bboys)

On the other hand I liked Barbara Ann, it was a simple choice, simple tune but what a great version they did!
It would make a nice bonus track for a live dvd.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Melt Away on September 26, 2012, 07:01:33 AM
Dudes, the Brian piano solo was AMAZING! How often do you see that?!?! I thought the Barbara  Ann boogie woogie version a brilliant choice. Radio sounded horrible and I really really tried to like it. Might of been the mix though because Totten's guitar was completely inaudible.  Do it again was meh not Mikes strongest vocal ever. Should of been IIT, BA and GV!


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Freddie French-Pounce on September 26, 2012, 08:38:31 AM
Check the very end of the Barbara Ann video - Brian gets up to leave the piano and a crew member has to rush over and touch his arm to let him know he has to stay there!

I noticed this too. A little embarrassing perhaps but I love how Brian seems like a law unto himself. He looks like he genuinely enjoys playing the tune with everyone but then figures, quite logically really, 'That was cool, I'll be off now!'

Little genuine appreciation for TV etiquette. A start contrast to Bruce's (superb) towing of the party line and constant confirming of the corporate positive media message.

BA was the best performance of the show in my opinion - by a very long way.


He also puts his hand up to shake Jools' hand - after he's walked past him ;D Bruce sorts it out.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Jon Stebbins on September 26, 2012, 09:03:35 AM
Dudes, the Brian piano solo was AMAZING!
I think AMAZING might be going a bit overboard. My cat can play similarly just walking across my piano keys. 


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Melt Away on September 26, 2012, 10:36:43 AM
Dudes, the Brian piano solo was AMAZING!
I think AMAZING might be going a bit overboard. My cat can play similarly just walking across my piano keys. 

It's not strictly about his playing but the fact it was Brian Wilson doing the solo live on television. How often does this happen? With all the people complaining about his keyboard and microphone not being loud enough, this was a breath of fresh air. The MAN himself actually jamming was amazing it's not like he's ever been Keith Emerson.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Rocker on September 26, 2012, 10:49:47 AM
Dudes, the Brian piano solo was AMAZING!
I think AMAZING might be going a bit overboard. My cat can play similarly just walking across my piano keys. 

It's not strictly about his playing but the fact it was Brian Wilson doing the solo live on television. How often does this happen? With all the people complaining about his keyboard and microphone not being loud enough, this was a breath of fresh air. The MAN himself actually jamming was amazing it's not like he's ever been Keith Emerson.


Nice to see Brian do that but not amazing or even very good. But what I agree on is that it's nice that he somehow shows interest.
BTW I don't think TWGMTR was as bad as many try to make it look. They've never done a 100% on key version on TV.
Imo they sould've done "Isn't it time" instead of "Barbara Ann" and maybe just some acapella stuff. If Jools had to play piano he could've done it on "Isn't it time"


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on September 26, 2012, 10:52:59 AM
What is amazing is that the performance of "Barbara Ann" is getting so much praise - and acceptance. Actually, if you really think about it, the praise and acceptance isn't amazing. Expected maybe...


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on September 26, 2012, 10:56:32 AM
What is amazing is that the performance of "Barbara Ann" is getting so much praise - and acceptance. Actually, if you really think about it, the praise and acceptance isn't amazing. Expected maybe...

There are some of us here who actually don't dislike that song....


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on September 26, 2012, 11:01:17 AM
What is amazing is that the performance of "Barbara Ann" is getting so much praise - and acceptance. Actually, if you really think about it, the praise and acceptance isn't amazing. Expected maybe...

There are some of us here who actually don't dislike that song....

With AND without prominent BW participation? :-D


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Dave Modny on September 26, 2012, 01:57:29 PM
BTW, don't know if it's been mentioned in the thread yet, but...

The HD channel, Palladia, started running the "Later" backlog re-airings here in the States in mid-September (it had most recently been shown here on the Ovation channel). Thus, I'd reckon the band's episode should show up in the next few months...hopefully sooner. 


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: hypehat on September 28, 2012, 02:53:02 AM
http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/Later/story-17004040-detail/story.html

Mike Love apparently hates PiL. FOOL.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Aegir on September 28, 2012, 07:39:33 AM
He doesn't hate them, he "was very disparaging" about them. He's a shit-talker.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: GuyO on September 28, 2012, 03:29:10 PM
Meanwhile... On the full hour episode of Jools Holland the band just played Isn't it time, Barbara Ann and a better version of TWGMTR.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: ontor pertawst on September 28, 2012, 03:32:57 PM
Quote
Mike Love apparently hates PiL. FOOL.

I'd love to see Lydon interview Love. Or forget the interview. Lock them in a room for a weekend, setup a camera. Comedy gold!


Gooood only knows
there's noooo futureeeee
without youuuuuu


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: GuyO on September 28, 2012, 04:01:25 PM
And... Heroes and Villains as an unexpected show closer.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Mike's Beard on September 28, 2012, 06:30:23 PM
Al sounded great. And if they DO make another album David needs to be involved vocally.

P.S.  PIL rocked even if their guitarist looks like he lives in a skip.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Shady on September 29, 2012, 04:35:37 PM
Anywhere I can see the extended show? I missed it  :-\

EDIT:

Found it


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on September 29, 2012, 05:43:27 PM
Mike Love apparently hates PiL. FOOL.


Here's the full quote rather than just the selected section that was presented in order the preserve the (tiresome) narrative:

"The Beach Boys were really friendly, especially Mike Love. He was hilarious. He kept talking to me throughout the whole filming, just talking away about how I should sing Etta James.

And he was very disparaging about Public Image Ltd, which I found hilarious. But that really put me at ease.

If everyone had loads of attitude or was really distant it would have been a lot more nerve-wrackin"



Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on September 29, 2012, 06:31:56 PM
Cause it doesn't take much to share it, here's the rest of it

Heroes and Villains
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmI7peFp1Gw

Isn't It Time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09Yrj0SVgyc


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Aegir on September 30, 2012, 01:20:52 AM
I love it when Mike sings his Part 2 vocals "duh heroes, duh heroes, duh heroes and villains" during the chorus.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Lowbacca on September 30, 2012, 07:01:08 AM
Cause it doesn't take much to share it, here's the rest of it

Heroes and Villains
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmI7peFp1Gw

Isn't It Time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09Yrj0SVgyc
Oh, thanks!!! Was it televised?


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: hypehat on September 30, 2012, 09:07:20 AM
Mike Love apparently hates PiL. FOOL.


Here's the full quote rather than just the selected section that was presented in order the preserve the (tiresome) narrative:

"The Beach Boys were really friendly, especially Mike Love. He was hilarious. He kept talking to me throughout the whole filming, just talking away about how I should sing Etta James.

And he was very disparaging about Public Image Ltd, which I found hilarious. But that really put me at ease.

If everyone had loads of attitude or was really distant it would have been a lot more nerve-wrackin"



Yes, I was clearly being serious when I called Mike Love a fool there. Oh yes.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Rocker on September 30, 2012, 12:31:57 PM
Cause it doesn't take much to share it, here's the rest of it

Heroes and Villains
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmI7peFp1Gw

Isn't It Time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09Yrj0SVgyc


Thanks! Didn't even know they played more. And very relieving to see that they played their new single


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Rocker on October 01, 2012, 12:29:54 PM
(http://www.pilofficial.com/images/beacherwater1.jpg)

Source: http://www.pilofficial.com/info.html


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: ontor pertawst on October 01, 2012, 12:32:33 PM
Ah, that's just lovely. C'mon, Brian - give him a guest vocal on the rock n' roll album.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Lowbacca on October 01, 2012, 12:33:11 PM
(http://www.pilofficial.com/images/beacherwater1.jpg)

Source: http://www.pilofficial.com/info.html
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: absinthe_boy on October 01, 2012, 12:39:22 PM
Brian really does look like he's enjoying PiL

Am I imagining it or did Brian say something about it not being his kind of music but he thought it was genuinely creative? Or did I dream that?

Or is that just my opinion? lol.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: SMiLE Brian on October 01, 2012, 12:44:42 PM
"love you" Brian reemerges! :3d


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: LetHimRun on October 01, 2012, 12:47:38 PM
The mix on Isn't It Time is horrible. You can barely hear Bruce's lead in the chorus but you can hear Brian singing harmony right up front.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Aegir on October 01, 2012, 01:31:53 PM
The mix on all the songs is horrible. How about Scott's guitar in TWGMTR (arguably the most important guitar part in the song) being completely inaudible?


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: The Heartical Don on October 01, 2012, 11:55:06 PM
(http://www.pilofficial.com/images/beacherwater1.jpg)

Source: http://www.pilofficial.com/info.html
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yup. This is a photo still that surely will go down in rock and roll history - if not, I'll eat my hat, and I am sure I won't have to do that.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Mike's Beard on October 02, 2012, 09:49:59 AM
I'd take a Brian/Lydon duet/collaboration over Brian working with the Paul McCartney's of this world any day of the week.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Rob Dean on October 02, 2012, 09:57:53 AM
I'd take a Brian/Lydon duet/collaboration over Brian working with the Paul McCartney's of this world any day of the week.

Yep do very much agree with that  , as I previously said 'Funky Pretty Vacant' and 'God Surf The Queen' etc...... and of course the legendary album 'Never Mind The Bollocks Here's Summer In Paradise'

Must say that PiL ( there you go again , a little i in the title of something ) were great on Jools even if their guitarist is possibly one of the strangest looking dudes ever


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Dave Modny on October 28, 2012, 07:56:14 PM
Just a heads-up for those here in the States...

Palladia will show the Beach Boys recent appearance on Later with Jools Holland (actually their 2nd, "Thursday performance" from the show) starting on Thursday Nov. 1st at 10pm eastern. It will then run a few more times, after that, over the next several days. It's a one-hour slot.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on October 28, 2012, 07:59:20 PM
Just a heads-up for those here in the States...

Palladia will show the Beach Boys recent appearance on Later with Jools Holland (actually their 2nd, "Thursday performance" from the show) starting on Thursday Nov. 1st at 10pm eastern. It will then run a few more times, after that, over the next several days. It's a one-hour slot.

Thanks, I was actually wondering if it was going to be on Palladia!


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: c-man on June 07, 2013, 05:32:09 PM
OK, so I just saw the BBs episode on Palladia for the first time.  Majorly bummed, as it appears they sliced 15 out of the show, including the two "new" songs, and any interview they may have done...does this usually happen with Palladia rebroadcasts, or only the Boys'?


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Dave Modny on June 07, 2013, 07:09:42 PM
OK, so I just saw the BBs episode on Palladia for the first time.  Majorly bummed, as it appears they sliced 15 out of the show, including the two "new" songs, and any interview they may have done...does this usually happen with Palladia rebroadcasts, or only the Boys'?


The syndicated US Palladia rebroadcasts of the extended, taped version (and, IIRC, the now defunct US airings on Ovation and Fuse) are all slotted in a one-hour block, *including* commercials. So, yes, they're cut for every episode, as I believe the BBC runs that original 60 minute, extended version pretty much straight through. Right, UK'ers?

But, here's the weird part: I caught one of the early Palladia airings, and they showed Isn't It Time, Barbara Ann (w/ short interview) and Heroes and Villains! Also, that abbreviated, instrumental-only version of Surfin' USA that opened the show. Thus, are you saying that they re-cut that Palladia version? Very strange if so!


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: c-man on June 07, 2013, 08:44:49 PM
OK, so I just saw the BBs episode on Palladia for the first time.  Majorly bummed, as it appears they sliced 15 out of the show, including the two "new" songs, and any interview they may have done...does this usually happen with Palladia rebroadcasts, or only the Boys'?


The syndicated US Palladia rebroadcasts of the extended, taped version (and, IIRC, the now defunct US airings on Ovation and Fuse) are all slotted in a one-hour block, *including* commercials. So, yes, they're cut for every episode, as I believe the BBC runs that original 60 minute, extended version pretty much straight through. Right, UK'ers?

But, here's the weird part: I caught one of the early Palladia airings, and they showed Isn't It Time, Barbara Ann (w/ short interview) and Heroes and Villains! Also, that abbreviated, instrumental-only version of Surfin' USA that opened the show. Thus, are you saying that they re-cut that Palladia version? Very strange if so!


Yes, no Isn't It Time this time.  Jools talked to the guys but I don't know if I'd call it an interview...Mike answered one question, and I think that was it.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Dave Modny on June 07, 2013, 08:55:03 PM
OK, so I just saw the BBs episode on Palladia for the first time.  Majorly bummed, as it appears they sliced 15 out of the show, including the two "new" songs, and any interview they may have done...does this usually happen with Palladia rebroadcasts, or only the Boys'?


The syndicated US Palladia rebroadcasts of the extended, taped version (and, IIRC, the now defunct US airings on Ovation and Fuse) are all slotted in a one-hour block, *including* commercials. So, yes, they're cut for every episode, as I believe the BBC runs that original 60 minute, extended version pretty much straight through. Right, UK'ers?

But, here's the weird part: I caught one of the early Palladia airings, and they showed Isn't It Time, Barbara Ann (w/ short interview) and Heroes and Villains! Also, that abbreviated, instrumental-only version of Surfin' USA that opened the show. Thus, are you saying that they re-cut that Palladia version? Very strange if so!


Yes, no Isn't It Time this time.  Jools talked to the guys but I don't know if I'd call it an interview...Mike answered one question, and I think that was it.


Wow, that's bizarre. Did they sub-in one of the other songs from the original live show in its place (e.g. Do It Again)?

I guess I'll have to look out for future re-airings, as I always ignored them after that early one I caught.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: c-man on June 08, 2013, 04:28:49 PM
Wow, they did "Do It Again" on Later?  How many songs did they actually play there?  All that were on last night's rebroadcast were the opening "Surfin' USA", "Barbara Ann", and "Heroes and Villains".  Unless I missed something, but I doubt it.  I have it recorded, and intend to check back.


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Dave Modny on June 08, 2013, 04:53:56 PM
Wow, they did "Do It Again" on Later?  How many songs did they actually play there?  All that were on last night's rebroadcast were the opening "Surfin' USA", "Barbara Ann", and "Heroes and Villains".  Unless I missed something, but I doubt it.  I have it recorded, and intend to check back.

"Do It Again" was performed on the original Tuesday, live version of the BBC show. It wasn't shown on the extended taped version that ran on the following Friday.

Going back in the thread, it appears it was:

9/25/2012 - 30 min. live version:

Do It Again
Barbara Ann
TWGMTR

9/28/2012 - 60 min. extended (taped) version:

Isn't It Time
Barbara Ann (alternate version IIRC??)
TWGMTR (alternate version)
Heroes and Villains


EDIT: And that abbreviated, opening instrumental version of Surfin' USA, as well, of course.  :)



Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: c-man on June 08, 2013, 09:10:31 PM
OK, I'm a doofus...I just watched last night's rebroadcast, and sure enough they did "Isn't It Time".  Not sure how I missed that!  But no "TWGMTR".


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Dave Modny on June 08, 2013, 09:25:50 PM
OK, I'm a doofus...I just watched last night's rebroadcast, and sure enough they did "Isn't It Time".  Not sure how I missed that!  But no "TWGMTR".

No problem at all - thanks for the update!  At the very least, we can rest assure that we saw the same show edit. :)


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Rocker on June 09, 2013, 05:08:42 AM
I know that back then I saw everything (thanks to youtube). But an "opening Surfin' USA instrumental" is new to me. Were Dave and Al playing or was it only the band?


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: c-man on June 09, 2013, 11:26:59 AM
I know that back then I saw everything (thanks to youtube). But an "opening Surfin' USA instrumental" is new to me. Were Dave and Al playing or was it only the band?

The whole band, including Dave, Al, Brian, Bruce, and Mike (although Mike wasn't playing anything, he was there on the stage with the rest).  Opening guitar intro courtesy Scott Totten.  In usual Jools fashion, the camera panned to the other stages, where the other guest bands played along (yes, including PIL).


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: Wylson on February 08, 2014, 02:08:46 PM
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but at the end of Barbara Ann someone sings a few notes of falsetto. In the past I had assumed this was Jeff as it is very strong. But I watched again today and it's Al. Just a neat fact!


Title: Re: Another UK Appearance - Later On Jools Holland BBC TV
Post by: UEF on April 16, 2020, 07:05:34 AM
I was there on the day, stood behind Brian with Johnny Rotten to my side!

Kept video from the performances too: http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,27066.0.html