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Title: Sinatra!
Post by: Summer_Days on September 06, 2012, 10:35:05 AM
Anybody else here big Frank Sinatra fans?

I love his Capitol years best, what with masterpieces like In The Wee Small Hours (the first Sinatra album I bought) and the bleak but spectacular Frank Sinatra Sings for Only The Lonely LP.


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: I. Spaceman on September 06, 2012, 12:39:07 PM
Big Frank fan here. His Capitol material is the most consistent, but there are many Reprise LPs as great as any of the more vaunted Capitol concept albums.


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on September 06, 2012, 01:50:10 PM
Also a Sinatra fan. Actually saw him in concert in his later years. Listen to Sundays With Sinatra with host Sid Mark as much as I can. I even like Frank's movies!

While I appreciate all of his eras - Columbia, Capitol, and Reprise, I find myself listening more to his later stuff, meaning post 1964. Granted the voice was fraying a bit (though I think the vocals were superb longer than most music fans give him credit for), I think I'm drawn to the more mature or "real" lyrics. It was less of those goofy, rhyming Sammy Cahn-type sentences and more themes that I could relate to, not that I don't appreciate the classic Cole Porter and other romantic 50's material like In The Wee Small Hours. I don't know if that makes sense.   


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: I. Spaceman on September 06, 2012, 03:20:33 PM
I don't think it gets more mature than Irving Berlin or any of those songs on Only The Lonely, No One Cares, Where Are You, Sinatra & Strings, etc. I think that stuff is far more adult than the mostly pandering attempts at being contemporary Sinatra made after 1964.


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: Summer_Days on September 06, 2012, 09:35:53 PM
I tend to love and focus on his brilliant Capitol albums the most, but much of his Reprise work is tremendous too, particularly September of My Years.

Now how d'ya guys feel about his best arranger/conducter? Nelson Riddle, Alex Stordahl, Billy May, Gordon Jenkins...

For me, it's Riddle, who worked with Sinatra on his greatest albums, though I love the bright, exuberant feel of Billy May's work on Come Fly With Me.


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: guitarfool2002 on September 07, 2012, 12:50:34 AM
I try to catch Sid Mark at least for a few minutes every weekend! When I wasn't in Philly, Boston had Ron Della Chiesa spinning Frank on the weekends. But I like Sid the best, what a great radio show.

My favorites are Nelson Riddle's arrangements for Frank, whether Capitol or Reprise.

Capitol, the classic 50's sets, are my go-to favorites that sound good anytime, and sound even better late at night depending on the record.

But growing up, more of the Reprise era was in my Dad's collection, and I remember spinning Sinatra At The Sands very young and not knowing or understanding what I was hearing, but liking the horns. Funny that I turned into a Sinatra fan as I grew up. :) Reprise has some great records to be heard, beyond the hits.

On Reprise, there are actually two all time favorite songs of mine: "All Or Nothing At All", the Riddle chart with Hammond organ, and "The Way You Look Tonight", which is simply beautiful vocally and instrumentally. A masterpiece that you can either dance or sit and listen to and get the same feeling when he sings that last line.

All Or Nothing At All (the 60's Reprise remake) is part of a handful of songs when Nelson Riddle added Hammond organ to Frank's sound, and I love every one of them. What a sound, Hammond with horns with Frank's voice piloting the ship.  There is even a TV special, filmed at that exact time, featuring Nelson conducting and the Hammond playing those charts behind Frank in a TV studio. Well worth seeking out, same with any number of TV specials Frank did in the 60's, including performing with Jobim.

Sinatra/Jobim...that first album more than the sequel...is there any more peaceful, beautiful yet forceful music than that album? When a certain Beck song hit the radio, featuring a flute-laden Latin swing arrangement, the first think to think was "Beck must be a Sinatra fan too...". Very cool.

"I've Got You Under My Skin" is one of the few records, the Capitol studio version, that will always be considered among the best studio records ever made. Despite the technology, nothing in 2012 from a Skrillex bass drop to the heaviest of metal or hardcore explodes out of the speakers like those horns in the arranger's chorus (to me, anyway). Only matched in sheer power by the arranger's chorus in All Or Nothing At All...and quite possibly Frank's most swinging vocal. A damn fine record, that one.



Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on September 07, 2012, 10:00:39 AM
All Or Nothing At All (the 60's Reprise remake) is part of a handful of songs when Nelson Riddle added Hammond organ to Frank's sound, and I love every one of them. What a sound, Hammond with horns with Frank's voice piloting the ship. 

That version of "All Or Nothing At All" is from the Strangers In The Night album. That album is a curious one. It's fairly short (10 songs, about 27 minutes long), and they threw "Downtown" in there, but it sold well and I love it. Frank is in fine spirits and voice, and as you mentioned, the sound is cool.  What a way to go out for Nelson Riddle. I believe that was his last album with Frank.   


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: Summer_Days on September 07, 2012, 12:47:57 PM
You know, a lot of Frank's Reprise remakes are as good, sometimes better than the original Capitol classics. One that comes to mind is 'Come Fly With Me', which he seems to have fun singin' on the Reprise recording.

"And don't tell your mama."


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on September 07, 2012, 03:05:07 PM
You know, a lot of Frank's Reprise remakes are as good, sometimes better than the original Capitol classics.

I know this is sacrilegious but I prefer "I've Got You Under My Skin", "Witchcraft", and "All The Way" from 1963's Sinatra's Sinatra than the original Capitol versions. They are slightly, just SLIGHTLY faster versions but I like the added punch.


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: I. Spaceman on September 07, 2012, 04:39:18 PM
The only tracks I like on Sinatra's Sinatra are Nancy and Oh! What It Seemed To Be. That album was a mercenary part of Frank's campaign against Capitol Records. Another part of that was his throwing away of the vocals and song selection on the last three Capitol albums. He began that with the song selection on the Nice N' Easy album, but at least he still gave great performances there. Compare Come Swing With Me, Sinatra's Swingin' Session and Point Of No Return with the contemporary Reprise albums Ring-A-Ding-Ding!, Swing Along With Me and Sinatra And Strings, where Frank is at an absolute peak of artistry and commitment. Granted, the other early Reprise album, I Remember Tommy, hasn't aged so well.


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: Summer_Days on September 07, 2012, 06:52:40 PM
You know, a lot of Frank's Reprise remakes are as good, sometimes better than the original Capitol classics.

I know this is sacrilegious but I prefer "I've Got You Under My Skin", "Witchcraft", and "All The Way" from 1963's Sinatra's Sinatra than the original Capitol versions. They are slightly, just SLIGHTLY faster versions but I like the added punch.

It is sacrilegious. :) But a lot of his Sinatra's Sinatra vocals are punchier. Some not; I way prefer the Capitol version of 'I Get A Kick Out of You', complete with the cocaine line.


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: I. Spaceman on September 07, 2012, 06:56:58 PM
I way prefer the Capitol version of 'I Get A Kick Out of You', complete with the cocaine line.

I agree on that. Same with the remakes on Sinatra-Basie.


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: guitarfool2002 on September 07, 2012, 11:18:57 PM
Re: Strangers In The Night and that era of albums - it does feel like Frank's albums were sort of adrift and wandering at this time, trying to appeal to the jukebox audience, his core audience, his older audience, and trying for anything in between. Hence, an album like Strangers... which is short and not very connected, despite the awesome organ sounds.

Yet, the sheer power of a song and arrangement like All Or Nothing At All somehow makes up for all of that, if not completely overshadowing the shortcomings of the album as a whole. And the title track was a monster, among a pretty amazing run where Frank was charting hit records again, and his name was associated with hits separate from his core (i.e. older) audience.

So his 65-67 output, album-wise, was a bit erratic. Good, but erratic. Yet his chart success was better than it had been in a decade, and consistent at that. Then when he put more direction into his albums and went for thematic, cohesive albums again, his sales sort of slipped and he wasn't charting hit singles. And then we're into semi-retirement into the early 70's.

One thing I can't listen to and enjoy as much instrumentally is the later recordings where you can hear a prominent electric bass in the big band setting. Hearing that amplified bass on a Sinatra big band chart from the late 70's and beyond can be distracting for me, but that's a pet peeve of mine.



Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: guitarfool2002 on September 07, 2012, 11:29:44 PM
What a way to go out for Nelson Riddle. I believe that was his last album with Frank.   

There are those few songs he arranged and recorded with Frank for the "names" album that never materialized in 1977, including "Sweet Lorraine" which I think is the highlight and also a highlight of most of what I've heard from Frank in the 70's, actually. There is some kind of magic there which drew me in when I first heard it, even though the record is a bit rough around the edges...

It's a little loopy, it's a little bit dated with the electric piano which was jazz-trendy bordering on de rigueur in the mid 70's, Sinatra isn't swaggering or phrasing as he did 2 decades prior, but I put that tune on more than one mix tape in previous years because it has that really specific light swing feel that Nelson and Frank did as good if not better than anyone when they got down to it. And the magic.

Basie swung hard, Sinatra pushing tempos on remakes and using his preferred heavy-footed, bashing swing drummers swung hard, Nelson could write screaming swing charts with the best of them, yet that light, breezy swing heard sadly for the last time on "Sweet Lorraine" as it was the final Riddle-Sinatra session was their fastball, their calling card.

I hear that all over the mid-50's Capitol albums, and it wasn't just with Nelson either (Billy May...), but the Riddle-Sinatra partnership owned that sound. If the Reprise remakes swung with more attitude and played hard and fast with the tempos, they lost that bit of airiness that was on the earlier Capitol versions.


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: I. Spaceman on September 08, 2012, 07:45:54 AM
For me, the Strangers In The Night album is all about Summer Wind. That is in Frank's top 10 tracks of all time, for sure.
That version of All Or Nothing At All is excellent, of course. For vocal power and drama, I gotta go with the stunning chart by Don Costa for that tune on the Sinatra and Strings album, tho. One of Frank's most intense vocal moments happens at the end of that performance.
A very notable thing about the Strangers album is the wild decision to resurrect no less than three songs by the composer Walter Donaldson, all very ubiquitous novelty-type songs that somehow sit quite well with the more modern tracks.
The Petula Clark covers are awful. I think Strangers itself is pretty bad too.
Now, Moonlight Sinatra, THAT is a Sinatra-Riddle album.


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: Justin on September 08, 2012, 08:45:12 AM
Big fan here as well.  I have the Capitol records box set among others and there are many gems on that one.  A great one to put on when you're heartbroken:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1e/NoOneCares.jpg)

Anyone pick this up?  Amazing set:

(http://www.blue-eyes.com/magento/media/catalog/product/cache/2/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/f/r/frank-sinatra-concert-collection-7-dvd-box-set.jpg)


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: guitarfool2002 on September 08, 2012, 10:37:42 AM
The funny thing about Frank's chart resurgence from 65-67 or thereabout is the opinion among the more diehard, old-school fans that it was something of a fluke that Frank was cutting hit singles in the midst of that pop-youth revolution. Looking back on it, was it plausible to assume that Frank Sinatra would be that popular at that specific time? I guess ultimately he was fishing for a hit record and a hit sound, and he and those working around him just found the right combination which appealed to a wider audience.

I will say that some of his choices of covers, not just the Pet Clark tunes, could at times sound like he was trying too hard to cover "contemporary" hit records, and some of them just don't work. Then again, he gets a lot of ridicule in some circles for his cover of "Something" where he famously injected the word "Jack!" into the lyrics, but taken as a whole the instrumental arrangement is beautiful and respectful of the Beatles' original at the same time.

Re: Strangers..., the song: I think you can hear Frank's opinion of the whole scene by the way he all but cuts up at the end with his scat singing. Not that it isn't a decent performance, but he's laughing almost at himself by the end of it, and such is the unpredictability of which songs will appeal to the public.


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: I. Spaceman on September 08, 2012, 11:48:49 AM
I think the resurgence of Frank, as well as Dean (who had a #1 in the Beatle era first, with Everybody Loves Somebody) and Louis Armstrong (who had a #1 even before that with Hello Dolly, breaking the run of Beatle chart-toppers in half), had a lot to do with a reaction by the older music-listening audience and radio programmers to the onslaught of "young" music from both Britain and America. Just when the teenage audience became absolutely rabid for the 45 and LP miracles rolling along at the rate of a hundred a week, the older crowd suddenly became more interested in purchasing records again as well. Patly, of course, this had to do with the older artists making more beat-heavy, contemporary-sounding records to keep up with the times.  Despite what many think, the "adult contemporary" market genuinely exploded post-Beatles. Herb Alpert sold a LOT more records in the Beatle era than he did before. It is cool that there were a few acts, such as Petula Clark, that bridged the gap between older and younger sensibilities.


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: Ron on September 10, 2012, 11:50:13 PM
I think it's hard for anybody who's paid any attention to his music to NOT be a big fan.  I can't put it in words, it may have just been he consistantly chose great songs, but man what a performer. 

My favorite has always been "Summer Wind", but I can get into about any of his songs that swing a little bit.  Some of the really slow ballads don't do much for me but I still respect them and understand the audience. 

There will be a ton of imitators of his 'style' from now until the end of time, but he was the only one who got to do that style when a song was still worth something to people.  Back when people owned 6 records and 4 of them were Sinatra's. 


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: Alex on September 11, 2012, 02:30:54 AM
Great singer and performer, but way too cozy with the establishment. (Which doesn't diminish the quality of his music one bit.)


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: guitarfool2002 on September 11, 2012, 02:53:34 PM
Great singer and performer, but way too cozy with the establishment. (Which doesn't diminish the quality of his music one bit.)

What? Please explain.


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: I. Spaceman on September 11, 2012, 04:05:01 PM
I'd assume he means from his association with Nixon on. It should be noted that before that, Frank was a staunch Democrat, worked with blacklisted writers, etc.


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: guitarfool2002 on September 11, 2012, 11:35:22 PM
It is mostly about the music anyway, so it's irrelevant to gauge how "establishment" versus "anti-establishment" the man was when we're discussing his music. And I hope some folks aren't out to lessen Sinatra because he became associated with whichever political party or views they don't agree with. That is some petty sh*t, especially when it's Frank Sinatra and the man and the music are what will be remembered.

Seriously, is that the current rap on Sinatra, that he wasn't "anti-establishment" enough? Turn that idea around, and is it more of a positive for entertainers to be more cozy with anti-establishment types? Still confused by that notion, but whatever, I listen to the music and watch his films (and his guest spots on Magnum PI, remember those? :) ), that's good enough for me to enjoy no matter how he voted.

Sinatra's voting record - at least in the more familiar elections - is pretty well known and publicized anyway. He voted for the ideas and the person running more than the party as he got older, and among those getting his votes and support after his almost exclusive support of the Democratic candidates from FDR to Truman to JFK was Hubert Humphrey(D) in 1968, then Richard Nixon(R) in 1972 over McGovern, and in between those races an old pal of his Ronald Reagan(R) for governor of California then later endorsing Reagan and producing his inaugural concert events in 1980-81. And the Reagan votes came when Sinatra was still registered as a Democrat, and I can't recall if he ever gave up that registration as long as he voted.

Nixon was the first president to invite Sinatra to perform at The White House in 1973 - an honor which meant a great deal to Sinatra. Note that despite working very hard for Democratic presidents in the past - most famously and publicly John Kennedy - none had invited him to the White House to sing, despite the work Frank did for their campaigns.

And the John Kennedy White House - through Bobby, the AG - actually cut off Frank Sinatra from their administration due to the perceived connections he had with the mob. Those same connections, mind you, which some say helped win JFK some crucial votes in certain areas where he was lagging behind Nixon as the 1960 campaign was coming to an end.

So yeah, I'd say Frank would be a bit hurt and pissed about this, although his ties to the Kennedy family remained through the years...but the slight of being uninvited by RFK never left his mind. And he also said that his views became more conservative as he got older...is that a negative on the man's legacy? That's who he was.

So I think it's a plus to have Sinatra voting how he felt about people over party affiliation - it's a pretty noble and risky thing to do but ultimately no one could accuse Sinatra of not having the balls to do things his way.  :)


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: Ron on September 15, 2012, 11:58:36 PM
Yeah I don't get the establishment thing.  I also don't get why anybody would let any of that influence they're opinion of him as a singer.  I know tons of people I disagree with about anything from politics to religion to favorite breast size and I don't let it keep me from appreciating people. 


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: rn57 on September 16, 2012, 10:40:28 AM
I think I may have more albums by old Frank than by anyone else in my collection - mostly (pre-recorded) cassettes I haven't listened to in years and years, since I generally listen to him on Youtube now. But I should dig out Watertown again - not all the tracks from that are on Youtube.

I hate to admit it, but the three songs of his I post on Facebook most often are his disco versions of "All Or Nothing At All" and "Night And Day," and "Mama Will Bark." Mostly because I like to startle my friends who have never heard them. Not that fair to Francis Albert, though.

Something interesting I read years ago: when Sinatra sold his Reprise label to Warner Brothers Records, he had a clause put in the contract saying that he had the right to personally listen to every single and album on the label before its release, and to veto anything he thought was not up to the label's standard. So, apparently until he retired temporarily in 1971, he did just that. Mo Ostin, the head of Warner Bros Recs, would bring him the discs at his house on the weekends, and he'd listen to them. Apparently he never vetoed anything.

But it's still incredible to think of what he heard. Ostin told Ed Sanders that Frank indeed listened to all the Fugs albums released by Reprise in his (Mo's) presence.  And can you picture Sinatra listening to the West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band's A Child's Guide To Good And Evil?  My cerebral cortex kind of balks at the idea of conceptualizing that.

There's an interesting interview in the current (September) issue of Mojo with Van Dyke Parks. As everybody knows, one of Frank's biggest latter-day hits was his duet with Nancy on "Somethin' Stupid" by VDP's brother Carson.  I had always read before that Sinatra first heard the song on an album Carson Parks recorded. Not so, according to Van Dyke. He says he personally pitched - ie, sang - "Somethin' Stupid" to Frank while the latter was getting a massage. In other words, he sang it acapella. Then Sinatra agreed to listen to Carson's version. Ah, that's one scene I wish somebody had captured on film or video, or even tape.

Frank, when attending The Paris Review's 13th anniversary party at the Village Gate club in NYC in 1966, got bored with the crowd  and he and Mia Farrow wandered into the performance room, where a group hired by George Plimpton's right-hand man, the late Peter Ardery, was performing. It was the Velvet Underground. With Nico. With Gerald Malanga and Mary Woronov and the whips. He watched them for 30 seconds and walked out.

Apparently Lou, John & Co never saw him, but the guy who later booked the Velvets into the Boston Tea Party club all the time was there and I have an email from him where he swears it happened.  I've got Mia's email address someplace around here so I should write her about it - and of course ask her, while I'm at it, what her ex thought of the BBs.


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: Alex on September 17, 2012, 01:09:25 AM
Sorry, should have explained better or used a different choice of words... Actually, now that I think about it, I don't even know what I was talking about. I think I may have been really tired when I made that post. My only issue with Sinatra is his refusal to embrace rock and roll. That said, I'll now bow out of this thread.


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: I. Spaceman on September 17, 2012, 07:30:08 PM
He did welcome Elvis back with a TV special, cut a rock single in the early 60's (Everybody's Twistin') and covered songs by The Beatles among other lite-rock acts.


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: Bean Bag on September 28, 2012, 10:04:47 PM
Frank was the best.  God bless him.  Huge Sinatra fan here.  HUGE.


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: hypehat on October 15, 2012, 03:41:33 AM
Anyone read this?

http://www.amazon.com/Sinatra-The-Life-Anthony-Summers/dp/0375414002

Not that impressed with it, for some reason. It is meticulously well researched, in depth with Sinatras life/bad habits/mafia connections.... barely mentions his music. The Riddle period gets one slender chapter, Strangers In The Night a page (mostly detailing how much he hates it), hardly any details outside of a couple of major tracks. Or hardly anything about his time at Reprise outside of what colour he painted his office. Most of the time it's 'in between schtupping X and fighting Y, Sinatra released another 4 albums'. Very dissatisfying.

If you edited it only slightly, it would just read like a biography of a horrible human being who drunk, swore and fought his way through 60 years in Vegas. Not one of the great singers.

BTW, listening to Songs For Swinging Lovers. Aww, yeah.


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: Crow on January 19, 2013, 11:22:35 AM
i love the capitol stuff the best but reprise is a little undervalues - it isn't just September of my years. Man I can jam on Sinatra and Strings. And his last capitol album - Point of no return is  amazing


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: Jeff on January 22, 2013, 03:02:26 PM
I'm surprised there is not more talk about September of My Years (the album).

I find it to be a counterpart to Pet Sounds - a much lusher, more layered sound than most Sinatra material, and extremely heartfelt.  Of course, Pet Sounds was about growing up, while September was about growing old, but the sentiments are similar.


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on January 22, 2013, 08:04:34 PM
I'm surprised there is not more talk about September of My Years (the album).

I find it to be a counterpart to Pet Sounds - a much lusher, more layered sound than most Sinatra material, and extremely heartfelt.  Of course, Pet Sounds was about growing up, while September was about growing old, but the sentiments are similar.

I love the album, and "It Was A Very Good Year" remains a constant in my Top 5 Sinatra songs.  You know, it's funny. September Of My Years is about growing old, and Frank pulled it off, but he was only 50 years old at the time. In reality, he still did a lot of swinging stuff AFTER that, and almost another 30 years of performing.


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: lance on January 22, 2013, 09:11:41 PM
Indeed, in retrospect it should have been called 'August 22nd of My Years.'


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: Bean Bag on April 03, 2013, 06:31:09 PM
Any of you guys pick up the Sinatra SACDs from Mobile Fidelity?  They're fantastic... and there's more to come.


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: Wata on May 31, 2018, 01:15:19 AM
I became a huge Sinatra fan last couple of months. Nowadays, I'm always listening to his stuff, which makes me feel relaxed and nice.

Here's my attempt at ranking all Sinatra albums I've ever listened to, which I've posted over there on PSF:

1.In the Wee Small Hours fave track: It Never Entered My Mind
Sinatra's greatest album. It might take you dozens of listen to "get" the context, but once you get it, it would be your absolute favorite album. Not a single stinker - Every song tells a story that's heartfelt. 

2.Song for Swingin' Lovers fave track: I've Got You under My Skin
Sinatra's greatest swing album. On this album, it's apparent that he was in full confidence, and that's what makes this album attracting.

3.Francis Albert Sinatra & Antonio Carlos Jobim fave track: I Concentrate on You
Sinatra's succeeded attempt at bossa nova. The seven Jobim tracks are very good, but three bossa nova renditions of great american songbook make the album stronger. The difference is obvious when you listen to unreleased SinatraJobim album, all of which is written by Jobim.

4.September of My Years fave track: How Old Am I?
The soundtrack of middle-aged, mature gentleman - that's how I feel about this. Very relaxing listen.

5.Strangers in the Night fave track: All or Nothing at All
Nelson Riddle's decision to bring organ to the studio was right. Sounding overall contemporary, this is the go-to album for beginners.

6.Frank Sinatra Sings for Only the Lonely fave track: One for My Baby (One More for the Road)
Honestly, I still haven't managed to "get" this album. There are still some tracks that sound going nowhere to me, but listening three standout tracks (Angel Eyes, Blues in the Night and One for My Baby), I'm always overwhelmed by the reality these renditions have - #6 for that reality.

7.Come Dance with Me fave track: Something's Gotta Give
Fun album to listen to early at night. Sinatra swings harder than any other swing album of his, which sounds great.
 
8.Sinatra '65 fave track: My Kind of Town
This is a comp, but this has some redeeming quality in it. Back chorus to half of the songs are nice, and somehow sounds fresh. Then there's two killer singles (My Kind of Town and Luck Be a Lady)

9.Point of No Return fave track: (Ah, the Apple Trees) When the World Was Young
Overall preference-wise, I would put this higher than Only the Lonely. I like it because it's somehow different from Sinatra's usual torch songs albums - there are some loud brass. 

10.Watertown fave track: The Train
An album I grew tired of. (Genuine Imitation Life Gazette is better) Nevertheless, the high quality of songwriting is undeniable, and the overall rendition is fine.

11. Where Are You? fave track: I'm a Fool to Want You
The title track, The Night We Call It A Day and I'm a Fool to Want You are magnificent. The rest is very good, if slightly forgettable.

11.The Concert Sinatra fave track: Ol' Man River
This is a great album suffers from being short. If longer, I easily see that it would be ranked as high as September of My Years among fans and critics.

12.Sinatra's Swingin' Session fave track: Should I?
Very entertaining listen. Fast tempo of the songs works well.

13.A Swingin' Affair fave track: Night and Day
This is definitely inferior to Songs for Swingin' Lovers, and other shorter Capitol Swing albums, but there are some interesting songs.

14.It Might As Well Be Swing fave track: Fly Me to the Moon
The high points are high, but the low points are pretty low.

15.Nice'n'Easy fave track: I've Got a Crush on You
A nice and easy album that's nice for calming down

16.She Shot Me Down fave track: The Gal that Got Away/It Never Entered My Mind
A very sad album good to listen late at night.

17.Come Swing with Me fave track: Yes Indeed!
The solidity of the sound makes this better than the next one.

18.Ring-a-Ding-Ding fave track: Ring-a-Ding-Ding
A light listen, nothing memorable bar the title track.

19.The World We Knew fave track: This Town
This is half a decent album. The fast tracks are very nice, yet the slow ones are overall forgettable.

20.My Way fave track: My Way
Take "My Way" away and the rest is hard to remember. Nice listen though.

21.This is Sinatra fave track: Love And Marrige
This is an album I'm having a hard time listening through. It must be a great listen, but I haven't "got" it yet.

22.Cycles fave track: Both Sides Now
I suppose this is just not the kind of music for Sinatra.

23.Close To You fave track: P.S. I Love You
One of the most unmemorable album Sinatra did in Capitol years. Nice when you wanna fall asleep.


Of course, this ranking could change as I go deeper. 


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: Wata on October 14, 2018, 07:21:52 AM
Just a reminder, but Only the Lonely 60th anniversary release is due to be released on October 19th(https://sinatrafamily.com/forum/showthread.php/50048-FRANK-SINATRA-SINGS-FOR-ONLY-THE-LONELY-60TH-ANNIVERSARY-EDITION-%28UMe%29-2018-nbsp (https://sinatrafamily.com/forum/showthread.php/50048-FRANK-SINATRA-SINGS-FOR-ONLY-THE-LONELY-60TH-ANNIVERSARY-EDITION-%28UMe%29-2018-nbsp)).

Here's new mix of Angel Eyes (http://Angel Eyes): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkxooexlxGI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkxooexlxGI)

and rehearsal takes of previously unreleased "Lush Life": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2-MalOvxD4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2-MalOvxD4)
 

2CD Deluxe

CD 1: Original 1958 Mono Mix + Bonus Tracks
1. Only The Lonely
2. Angel Eyes
3. What’s New?
4. It’s A Lonesome Old Town
5. Willow Weep For Me
6. Good-Bye
7. Blues In The Night
8. Guess I’ll Hang My Tears Out To Dry
9. Ebb Tide
10. Spring Is Here
11. Gone With The Wind
12. One For My Baby (And One More For The Road)
Bonus Tracks (Mono)
13. Guess I’ll Hang My Tears Out To Dry (alt take – May 5, 1958)
14. Angel Eyes (alt session takes – May 5, 1958) - previously unreleased

CD 2: New 2018 Stereo Mix + Bonus Tracks
1. Only The Lonely
2. Angel Eyes
3. What’s New?
4. It’s A Lonesome Old Town
5. Willow Weep For Me
6. Good-Bye
7. Blues In The Night
8. Guess I’ll Hang My Tears Out To Dry
9. Ebb Tide
10. Spring Is Here
11. Gone With The Wind
12. One For My Baby (And One More For The Road)
Bonus Tracks (Mono)
13. Lush Life (session takes – May 29, 1958) - previously unreleased
14. One For My Baby (test track – June 24, 1958)

Expanded Digital Album (Mono)
Original 1958 Mono Mix + Bonus Tracks
1. Only The Lonely
2. Angel Eyes
3. What’s New?
4. It’s A Lonesome Old Town
5. Willow Weep For Me
6. Good-Bye
7. Blues In The Night
8. Guess I’ll Hang My Tears Out To Dry
9. Ebb Tide
10. Spring Is Here
11. Gone With The Wind
12. One For My Baby (And One More For The Road)
Bonus Tracks (Mono)
13. Guess I’ll Hang My Tears Out To Dry (alt take – May 5, 1958)
14. Angel Eyes (alt session takes – May 5, 1958) - previously unreleased
15. Lush Life (session takes – May 29, 1958) - previously unreleased
16. One For My Baby (test track – June 24, 1958)

1CD; 2LP Vinyl; Digital Album (Stereo)
New 2018 Stereo Mix

2LP Vinyl side splits
Side A:
1. Only The Lonely
2. Angel Eyes
3. What’s New?
Side B:
4. It’s A Lonesome Old Town
5. Willow Weep For Me
6. Good-Bye
Side C:
7. Blues In The Night
8. Guess I’ll Hang My Tears Out To Dry
9. Ebb Tide
Side D:
10. Spring Is Here
11. Gone With The Wind
12. One For My Baby



Title: Sinatra "Only the Lonely" 60th Anniversary Set
Post by: Wata on October 19, 2018, 02:07:33 AM
The "Only the Lonely" set is out today:

Stereo 2018 Mix: https://open.spotify.com/album/79EPf4gOng48qYVUiL29i2?si=ljOp7XInSZezs1Ap9F2p-g (https://open.spotify.com/album/79EPf4gOng48qYVUiL29i2?si=ljOp7XInSZezs1Ap9F2p-g)

Mono 1958 Mix: https://open.spotify.com/album/0xV0zM1RVaVQ8LaUp6bLWR?si=0pk0RWQETtuL-wpzKIpSag (https://open.spotify.com/album/0xV0zM1RVaVQ8LaUp6bLWR?si=0pk0RWQETtuL-wpzKIpSag)

I'm giving it a listen right now...just fascinating, with so many details I hadn't noticed before. I'm being overwhelmed by the feeling inside of every single song. You must check it out, it's a impressive listen.


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on October 20, 2018, 07:09:13 AM
Thanks for letting us know about this .
Whenever I need a change of pace musically I find myself listening to Sinatra. He had a great ability to pick memorable songs that worked well with his singing style.


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: MsBecca on October 20, 2018, 03:01:42 PM
I am a relatively new convert to the world of Frank Sinatra. I was not all that familiar of his music during the process of growing up ( I mean wow he died when I was like 12) but not too long ago someone on the PSF forum posted some of his stuff and it made me want to check it out. I did and I must say that I think I quite like it. I have been listening to that thingy he did with AC Jobim a lot lately for instance. Very relaxing yet cool!


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on October 20, 2018, 05:12:54 PM
Quote
He had a great ability to pick memorable songs that worked well with his singing style.
"Something" is real abomination. Dull song made even duller. Doesn't fit Sinatra style AT ALL. To blend Beatles & Sinatra is ludicrous. But, as Emdeeh would use banal phrase, "your mileage may vary & probably will".


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on October 21, 2018, 12:13:12 AM
I am a relatively new convert to the world of Frank Sinatra. I was not all that familiar of his music during the process of growing up ( I mean wow he died when I was like 12) but not too long ago someone on the PSF forum posted some of his stuff and it made me want to check it out. I did and I must say that I think I quite like it. I have been listening to that thingy he did with AC Jobim a lot lately for instance. Very relaxing yet cool!


Great to see a recent convert. When I was about 5 I had two acts I was obsessed with. Pink Floyd and Frank Sinatra. My uncle Sal was born in Sicily but spent most of the first half of his life in New York before moving to Denver and then Houston. But he was always a New York kind of guy, also a bit older. He was one of my heroes growing up, and he was a Sinatra fan. For a while I kind of copied that style.


Title: Re: Sinatra!
Post by: Rocker on November 03, 2018, 06:36:28 AM
In case you haven't seen yet, there's another Sinatra tribute-album out, this time by Willie Nelson.


https://www.amazon.com/My-Way-Willie-Nelson/dp/B07FKD3D19