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A friend & neighbor, (who, ironically, is in a band with an old friend of Dennis), said they are going nuts on some Fender site, wondering what became of Carl's '63 Jaguar.  Told him I'd ask over here

According to Stephen Desper, Steve Korthoff would know about the early instruments. Check out this thread, maybe there is even something said about it (been a while since I last looked at it).

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,258.0.html

I believe it was stolen in late '64 or early '65. They had a bunch of guitars stolen while touring the US eastern cities around that time.

 Probably a stupid question, but, Does anyone in the Carl/BBs world have the serial number for his guitar( plus any others that were stolen) to check against ones that come up for sale?

Anybody know where Brian's white Fender bass is these days?

I hope cross-posting of forum discussions is allowed, because here is the discussion going on about Carl's guitars:

http://gretschpages.com/forum/other-guitars/where-exactly-is-carl-wilsons-olympic-white-jaguar-today/54225/page1/ (http://gretschpages.com/forum/other-guitars/where-exactly-is-carl-wilsons-olympic-white-jaguar-today/54225/page1/)

A great discussion. Looks like some minds were blown over there with new info. And the same questions asked, Re:Brian's bass, over there as were asked here. Add my voice...what ever happened to that bass, the Beach Boys' "community bass" from the 60's?

BTW, the musician who started that thread on the guitar forum was a really cool and knowledgeable regular board poster, and played in an excellent Beach Boys tribute band in the Mass. area...wondering if he posts here under a different name? I also met him post-show as we were all waiting with passes to meet Brian's band at the Boston Smile performance.

Does anyone have any further info on the late 64-early 65 theft of instruments which was mentioned? "A bunch of guitars" could mean anything, yet compare the available photos and video clips from 63-66 and it would appear that several of the most prominent instruments, i.e. Brian's P-Bass, survived into '66...or am I missing something? What exactly got stolen?

Looking close at the info, it would either be a case of Carl having bought or received (as a prominent Fender endorser) more than one Olympic White Jaguar, which would account for the several on public display. That is the simple explanation, made more probable because Carl was all over Fender's advertising around that time. Or, it could be a case of folks claiming something was Carl's personal guitar when it was the exact model but not Carl's stage instrument.

While in the process of writing a new Beach Boys book with Ian Rusten that covers their touring history in a day by day fashion there is ample evidence put forth in the press accounts of the day and from their crew (Steve Korthoff included) that several Beach Boys guitars were stolen over the course of multiple incidents in the '64 to '66 period. Two we know of for sure are Al's original white strat, and one of Carl's Rickenbackers. Carl also used a white Fender XII in '65 that suddenly disappears. That may have been stolen too, or may have been put aside when a new Rick was available. But its documented that Beach Boys guitars were stolen. Don't ask me the specific dates of each as I'm not pouring through 225,000 words this morning to nail this down. It will all be there in black and white when the book is out. Regarding my previous post...Since the Jag kind of disappears from the BB's guitar arsenal in early '65 my common sense tells me perhaps that was one of the instruments that was stolen. i don't have any evidence other than the fact we know thefts of Beach Boys guitars are reported in the press during that general period and the Jag is no longer around in concert photos. Maybe Carl just stuck it in a case and put it away.

One other thing I'm wondering about. Are we certain Carl's original Jag is a '63 model? Just asking because I have a photo of him playing it in Fall '62. Were the '63 models introduced in '62?

Thanks for all the info Jon, and I'll be excited to see the book!

I believe certain companies' new models would be released and available in advance, just as a new line of cars for 2013 will be introduced in 2012. And the fact that the Beach Boys were close to Fender's factory might suggest Carl would have gotten his guitar "factory fresh", before they shipped to retailers. Honestly, I'm just going on general info, but there are folks who could be contacted that have all of that info much closer at hand (I'm thinking any number of historians or collectors in Vintage Guitar magazine who specialize in Fender).

The issue of dating vintage guitars without having a serial number available (plus neck and body date stamps) can be close to impossible - and even having clear photos doesn't always work because sometimes certain prominent parts would be nicked from previous production runs and put on later guitars - not all the time, but enough to be frustrating. So you might have, say, a 1963 guitar date-checked and all, but the neck might date from 1962, yet the guitar left the factory that way in late 63. People would think "The dates don't match, they must have swapped necks at some point, this is a fake, etc..." when in reality the factory would often grab what they had in stock and bolt them together.

***But ultimately if the issue of Carl's original Fender Jaguar is discussed, and someone claims to have it or whatever...and we know that guitar was stolen back in late-64/65 since no photos of Carl holding it exist after a certain time, wouldn't that suggest whichever Jaguar guitars Carl or those connected to him have sold or displayed as "original" may not be exactly that one he's pictured or filmed with? Because if it were stolen in 64-65, what the heck are those multiple guitars displayed at the Hard Rock Cafe?

Funny enough, this is the thread that caused my friend to come to me about the Jaguar.  Interesting that Billy was answering questions about the guitars back in the 90's.  Thanks for all the info from everyone

Btw, my friend & neighbor posted a picture I sent him on that site, of me standing in front of a guitar display at the 1964 World's Fair.  I remember being so knocked out to see Carl's guitar on the wall, next to Johnny Cash's & several other historical instruments.  http://gretschpages.com/forum/other-guitars/where-exactly-is-carl-wilsons-olympic-white-jaguar-today/54225/page1/

That sounds great Jon ! Ian really knows his stuff. I'm always amazed how much work and love for detail he puts into his research.
If you can reveal that at this point: will it focus on a specific time or go all through the decades?

You're right about Ian. He did amazing research for this project. It goes through all the decades, but with a highly detailed focus on '61 - '85, after that it becomes increasingly streamlined but all the years are well represented. Solo stuff too. We'll be officially announcing this book soon. I kind of let the cat out of the bag here.

a christmas release?

unfortunately, even if someone had the serial numbers, it wouldn't really do much good on it's own, as they are stamped on the neckplate, which is easily swapped !

Right, the serial number doesn't mean much ultimately, if someone really wanted to be a crook and alter the history of something. The only way to truly check dates, for example, is to remove the neck and check the writing/dating of the neck with the writing/dating of the body - all things that you have to do to check accuracy, and even then it's not flawless because Fenders neck dates often were older runs than the bodies they attached them to, and it gets confusing.

But one thing for sure, if you're looking at a 1963 Jaguar, and the neck is signed/dated 1965, someone got hosed. Or the neck was replaced.

It's tough to trust the vintage guitar market because the few dishonest folks ruin the reputation of the solid dealers. A few years ago I was at a pretty large guitar collectors' convention, actually standing in front of a 58 or 59 sunburst Les Paul Standard with a price tag around $200,000, when a few guys walked up to the dealer's stand next to the Les Paul. There was a valuable Stratocaster, I believe late 50's, which someone was inspecting close. Out of nowhere, one of the group of guys got excited/annoyed and declared that Strat was his guitar which had been stolen years ago. Everyone was shocked. This guy calmed down, and described exact details of certain damage, flaws, and something inside that would ID it. Sure enough, the dealer started taking it apart, and the details were there just as described. That was a "holy sh*t" moment, and I didn't stick around to see what happened. I hope that dude got his long-lost Strat back at some point.

It ruined a lot of my faith in the high-end guitar market, not that I have enough disposable income to get into it in any capacity beyond getting lucky finds at various places, but hearing all this about Carl's once-stolen guitar brought it back. Well, that and the "American Pickers" coming across a once-in-a-lifetime deal a guy found on a Gretsch at a yard sale, and that turned out to be stolen as well.  :)

Busting the myth, destroying the legend, etc.

Is this the photo?
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n295/guitarfool2002/carljag4.jpg)


I'm more than a little confused about a few points so far, after reviewing everything:

First, if that photo is the one, and it's from fall 1962 (or even if another photo showing the Jaguar is, same difference), I have to go with my gut instinct plus common sense and assume Carl is playing a 1962 Jaguar. I'll ignore corporate release dates and model-year releases and common sense says that guitar was 1962 - incidentally 1962 was the first year the Fender Jaguar was offered for sale, and it was Fender's top-of-the-line guitar model, and most expensive.

Big question #1: Where did the information come from that said Carl's Jag was a 1963? If the photo was 1962, and he's shown playing the guitar...that's a '62! It was made in '62, it's a '62 - I wouldn't see how Carl Wilson would have gotten a 1963 model not even available to the public that far in advance in 1962. Or I could be totally wrong.

I had to do a reality check after re-reading my response to the post.

Big question #2: Does anyone know either how many Fender Jaguar guitars in Olympic White custom finish Carl Wilson owned at this time? Or am I reading something incorrectly by seeing what appears to be several Olympic White Jaguars claiming to have been Carl Wilson's guitar showing up at various places?

And which one(s) are hanging on display as shown in that other forum's thread?

Something doesn't jive.

Big Question #3: If one of what could be several of Carl's Fender Jaguars had been stolen as reported in 64-65, then one of them turns up on the collectors' market decades later claiming to have been Carl's Jaguar, it remained a stolen item and should that instrument have not immediately been returned to Carl's family or estate, or at least checked out to determine if it was the 'lost' guitar from the 60's? A moot point if he owned several Jags in '64, or if in the ensuing years Carl got the stolen guitar back.

Big Question #4: When did the Beach Boys officially pick up their Fender endorsement? I ask because we all know in the mid 60's they were an active, public face advertising Fender instruments in print and on the radio. As such, Fender could have made available any number of new, factory-fresh models for them to use in public...either for free(often the case), or at a drastically reduced cost. Whether the band chose to use them is another story (though I think that's where Carl's Fender Electric 12-string came from). So Carl could have had a number of Jags with him...but when exactly did Fender and the Beach Boys enter into that endorsement deal? 1962...'63...'64?

The photo I was referring to is even earlier than the one you posted. Its from the Pendelton shirt era, I know I said Fall in my previous post...but its probably Aug./Sept '62. Carl is playing the white Jag in it. Sorry I can't post it...It will be in the next book.

I agree with this evidence that Carl's Jag was likely a '62 model. I also think its unlikely he had more than one. Just a feeling. The BB's didn't get any whiff of endorsement opportunity, or support from Fender until much later...'65 is when Fender finally started realizing the BB's were their best promoters. '65 is when the first Fender ads featuring the Beach Boys appeared.

The last appearance of the white Jag that I can think of off the top of my head is Al playing it at the TAMI show 10/29/64. I know of no photo with that guitar after that.

Thanks for the info, and I'll definitely be looking forward to the photo(s) in the new book!

I'd say the dating of the photo you mentioned all but seals the deal, that Carl's Jaguar was indeed a 1962 model. And it didn't seem like much of a possibility that the Beach Boys in 1962 would have wrangled an endorsement deal from Fender before they were even that popular outside of their home area, so it's good to get a clarification on that and date that endorsement closer to 1965.

It also should be mentioned that without an endorsement deal, that particular Fender Jaguar of Carl's was not only a custom color (the headstock was painted to match the body, too...only done on the custom color option), but it was also the "Tiffany" or "Cadillac" of the Fender guitar line in 1962. So not everyone could afford that guitar, and it would be the equivalent of perhaps a 16 year old high-school classmate showing up in 11th grade driving a new Corvette or something.

And if he only had one Jag, which I think is the most likely scenario, and that got stolen, the biggest question of all is still: What the heck are those other guitars labeled as Carl's Jaguar? And was the stolen Jag ever recovered by Carl or his estate?

Thanks again for the info.

I think someone should ask Billy Hinsche if he knows more about that topic. He's on BeachBoysBritain and Facebook so it shouldn't be hard to contact him

The earlier one(s) may have been rented. Brian's bass is a different  color than the one he owned later on. Olympic White was a pretty common color on early '60s Jags.

Its well documented that Brian owned a sunburst Fender bass until early 1964 when he switched to the Olympic white model. Al also used the sunburst Fender when subbing for Brian in '63.

Remember I have no evidence the Jag was stolen other than it disappears from the Beach Boys stage arsenal right around the same time the press reported Beach Boys guitars being stolen. In reality Carl might have just tired of the guitar and put it in a case and in a closet.

When did the Rickenbacker 360/12 first appear?  Might have Carl just come to prefer that?  I'm not as crisp on my guitar history as I once was.

This is not about the Jag but I didn't want to open another thread and maybe it can give some inside look, I don't know.

Taken from this site: http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5592

Here's what must be one of the very few existing photos where The Beach Boys' Carl Wilson can be seen with his (prototype) Electric XII :

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n314/the55thbeatle/beachboysSMILECARL.jpg)

I've been informed that Carl used this XII during a couple of dates on a Beach Boys-tour in 1965, but this is the only photo (possibly taken during a soundcheck) I've ever seen where he can be seen using it...the guitar is definitely a (great-looking!) prototype, as it's missing a selector switch, but does feature a pearloid pickguard (which was never officially used on this model by Fender), white control knobs (ditto) as well as a (Olympic?)  White body with a non-matching headstock, and it also almost appears as if Wilson's XII has a couple of Mustang-type (roller) switches on the bass-side of the pickguard...

Carl got the Rickenbacker right after he saw A Hard Days Night, probably August '64.

The photo is from January 27th '65 during their Portland gig, not at a soundcheck. We have a few photos from this show in our upcoming book. Carl used this Fender Electric XII at a bunch of gigs around this time, we probably have photo evidence of him using it during at least three months worth of gigs, January to March '65. By April '65 he's back to a Rickenbacker 12.

That is a sweet photo. 

Do you know any sessions where Carl may have used this guitar? I have one of these, and I've always wondered which BB songs it may feature on. I know Billy Strange played one on 'Sloop John B'. I always thought the intro to 'CA Girls' sounds like the Fender XII.

The CG intro is at least two twelve-strings playing at the same time.  I always figured it was Carl on Rickenbacker and one of the other guitarists on a XII.

ah, good info.

yeh, seems like Carl didn't take to the Fender XII for some reason. it is a peculiar sound, not so much a traditional 12-string sound ... more like a rich, swirling thing, not very aggressive like the Rics. Although ultimately, he settled on the Epiphone/Gibson, which I think is somewhere in between. I've always guessed that he used the Fender XII on the live '65 medley on Endless Harmony.

At the risk of turning this into some sort of Carl picture thread, I've long thought this photo is under-ratedly valuable.


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/46/Carl_Wilson_Rickenbacker.png)

It gives you a great picture of what it looked like in the booth, for this session, which I really am not sure what it is, but if you imagine different personnel, plenty of other sessions where two guitarists were in the booth.  And also nice evidence that the single cutaway dano bass was in use as well as the longhorn.

And then, yep, he got into these:

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lb936mumj51qa6twqo1_400.jpg)

Would love to know where all the Beach Boys equipment has got to over the years.

That is a cropped version of what one source labeled the solo Dennis Wilson "I Don't Know" session, Jan. 67...there is a version of that showing a girl to the right. And another shot i think we've seen elsewhere is Carl wearing those same shades as a camo-wearing Dennis is playing him something at the piano.

All I want is those Jasper/Guy Smile era studio photos in one cohesive collection. That's not much to ask. ;D

Depending on when exactly the Beach Boys picked up the Fender endorsement/sponsorship, this is *exactly* the kind of instrument they would put into one of their endorser's hands to try out or hopefully be seen playing by a lot of potential Fender customers.

The fact that it appears to be a a prototype sort of nailed it for me, if in fact the endorsement was happening at the time of the photo. They would sometimes put prototype instruments like this out there to be road-tested, previewed, showcased, etc.

This is the very guitar and photo I alluded to in an earlier reply to Jon Stebbins' post about Fender on page 1.

Don't know about Carl but one of the most famous appearances of the Electric XII was Jimmy Page on Stairway To Heaven. That, and a set of photos taken at Columbia showing Roger McGuinn with both his familiar Rickenbacker 12 and the Fender Electric XII, and some suggest the Fender is heard more often than most would assume. That's speculation, but the photo proves it was in the studio with the Byrds.

I like Fender-style electric 12's over Rickenbacker, for the most basic reasons: They stay in tune better, they feel more natural, and they record fantastic, either DI or through an amp. Gotta compress the heck out of them for that classic tone, right? :) I have one of those Courtney Love-designed "Venus" electric 12's and it great.

Justyn Wilson told me Carl's equipment is being stored with the other Beach Boys' stuff in a climate-controlled warehouse.

For those interested in the smaller trivia behind these photos...that is a KISN "Good Guys" shirt that Carl is wearing. KISN was the Beach Boys-friendly AM radio station in Portland, and the "Good Guys" was a schtick that certain station affiliates would tag onto their on-air personalities. The more famous "Good Guys" were on WMCA in New York, and I say famous because there are multiple Beatle-related photos with the Good Guys or even wearing those shirts.

Here's the cool trivia...at the time of the Beach Boys earlier visits to Portland and KISN, one of the Good Guys DJ's working his way through Portland was "The Real Don Steele". He would be hired in 1965 by Ron Jacobs as one of the first KHJ Boss Radio DJ's, second to Robert W. Morgan. So once again, there was a DJ in Steele who knew the Beach Boys from his time in Portland and then wound up on KHJ where he'd run into Brian obviously more often! Steele is in the back row, on the far left, wearing the shirt:
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n295/guitarfool2002/kisnshirts2.jpg)

This is a photo that's shown up in other places (maybe even here, too lazy to look) of Carl (minus the t-shirt...) and David at KISN's studios, back in '63 for their KISN-sponsored concert. KISN had a DJ studio similar to "The Today Show" where you could walk by the station and look through a window to see your favorite "Good Guys" doing their broadcasts:
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n295/guitarfool2002/bbkisn2.jpg)

And two from that '63 Portland show...notice the banner logo is the same Good Guys logo from Carl's shirt:
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n295/guitarfool2002/bbkisn1.jpg)
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n295/guitarfool2002/bbkisn5.jpg)

That's Dennis standing up front. Unusual that he was standing up front in '63. I know he came out front in '65 for "Do You Wanna Dance" while Brian played drums. For this one, I think I see Al, Carl, Dennis, and Mike. Maybe Brian is on drums or not there. First time I've seen that picture from Portland. Wonder what song it is.

I don't want it to seem like I'm poaching stuff from other boards (non-BB's), I just grab and collect and share photos I come across and like, most often. But as a disclaimer some of those photos have shown up in a few places and blogs since, and on one board a guy who was actually at that show had a great thread about it - including some pictures from KISN and his own shots, and a caption about that one shot of Dennis at the mic. It said Dennis was singing a song called "Silly Boy"...I have no idea what that is! Maybe someone can fill in some details.  :) You can't see him but the guy also posted that David was on drums during that song. And Brian was not present at that show - note Al on the Fender P-bass, Carl on Jaguar, and David on Strat.

There is another photo of David singing at the mic at one of these shows.

Maybe the guy who posted all that is a member here, too! If so I hope he posts - it's fascinating info from a '63 show.

OH! BTW, just for fun, in the shot of Carl and David in the DJ booth: Notice the record on the turntable is a Capitol "rainbow label", and look to the left just above the turntable...he's spinning the Surfer Girl album! The cover looks like it has one of those radio timing and cue sheets with all the times and song titles attached over the picture.

You've got good eyes! and great posts, by the way. 
If whatever is on the picture is timing etc, it's something that was done at the station, as the timing sheets attached to the LPS by Capitol, as theirs were much smaller , and I've never seen one attached to the front cover( tho, of course, that doesn't mean one never slipped thru) 

Surfer Girl with timing  showing actual size: 

     (http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww302/bgasnow/scan0007-17.jpg)

Thanks a lot for the infos guitarfool2002 ! I wondered why Carl wore no striped shirt but this makes sense.
Here's a pic of Carl with the XII from this site:
http://thebeachboysandthecaliforniamyth.blogspot.de/2010/08/beach-boys-1965.html

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_d1cIWUKbr5w/TF9OfFm_GTI/AAAAAAAABM4/paKA6BKxrZs/s320/TBB+with+Glen+on+stage+1965.jpg)

Re "Silly boy": I could find two songs (and maybe they are the same). One by Lucy Campo and one by The Lettermen. Unfortunately I couldn't find a place to listen to Lucy Campo's song.
The Lettermen's songs was a hit in '62 so it could very well be that the boys tried that one, I don't know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5vlz_BR5_0


Anyway, back to the Jag. I found this on the web:

(http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/94/aa25abe4d67640b3a710b91de008b4a8/l.jpg)

Fun stuff!  I love that photo of Carl and Dave at the station.  It really is time for a giant Beach Boys photo book.

Absolutely. You can find quite some interesting stuff through Google. Check out the recent pages of the picture thread in the media section

I found another pic on my computer. Maybe it can be of help regarding the Jaguar


(http://s1.directupload.net/images/120822/ahtylhbs.jpg)

Nice one! Did you read the thread on the other forum with some Jag updates since the weekend? Interesting stuff...

Just took a look. So it is not that guitar of Carl's that is hanging there. I said it before but Billy Hinsche is probably the best source regarding that topic. He was there since '65 I believe, when Carl married Billy's sister


On another note, not totally on topic but I posted this on the picture thread a few days ago. It says it was Carl's guitar. Do we know if it's true?

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8023/7265354928_6fba7e71c7_z.jpg)

I think this one looks not as bright as the one in the picture above. But I don't remember another 12 string Epiphone Carl played.

(http://www.smileysmile.net/uncanny/media/users/djm/beachedffdcarl.jpg)

Where did that photo of that Epiphone 12-string on display come from - is that a museum or Hard Rock Cafe display or something similar?

I have several photos of Carl with his Epiphone 12-string electric which I looked at after the above display photo was posted. Much like the 60's-era shot of Carl on stage with an Epiphone, all of the photos I saw match the darker sunburst finish of the one shown in the live shot.

The display photo looks like a similar model but it isn't the same finish.

Consider this:

Carl's original Epiphone had, by the mid 70's, at least two cases of the neck breaking while on tour and needing repair. That is one of the pitfalls of such a guitar. Remember, this is as of the mid 70's - if he used it for 20 years after that, on stage and on tour, who knows how many times that guitar needed repair.

And the issue I have is with the color of the sunburst finish: The two guitars simply don't match, and although some finishes do indeed fade and transform over time and after being exposed to certain elements, I don't think that particular finish would change that drastically.

The pickguard doesn't have the signature Epiphone "E" on it, as earlier photos show. I chalk that up to a replacement pickguard, that really doesn't mean anything to the overall guitar, and in all probability the original with the "E" logo most likely broke, or Carl took it off and it got replaced somewhere in 20 years of use.

I won't say the display guitar is not Carl's original...from what I have seen, it appears he only had one like that, and the features line up where the finish and color do not. The possibility is open that his original at some point was refinished and the results of that new paint/finish or repair are what we see in that display case.

All of that is speculation going on what materials and photo/interview evidence is available. It's impossible to make a definitive statement about any of these things without getting more firsthand info both from the guitar and its previous/current owners, of course.

Only found it online. Here's the link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/superflash/7265354928/

It says it was taken in Cleveland so I guess it might be at the Hall Of Fame. But I was wondering too because it doesn't look like any guitar of Carl's that I have seen.

If you increase the picture you can see that the sign reads
Carl Wilson of the Beach Boys Guitar
1967 Epiphone 12-String

Carl Wilson used this instrument in the studio and on tour throughout his career

I can't read the line between the description of the guitar and the text.



EDIT:

Here's an interview Billy Hinsche did with Carl about his guitars: http://www.billyhinsche.com/story4.html

In it Carl mentions that he has two sunburst 12-string Epiphones (one tobacco sunburst):

Okay then, that would make sense! As he mentioned both a Tobacco Sunburst and a regular sunburst Epiphone, it gives a lot more credibility to that guitar on display. It lines up perfectly. Good call on that list, great info!

I also just came across this post by Stephen Desper. He mentions that Carl also had guitars just for recording. So maybe that shown guitar was never used on stage although the sign claims it was

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,1203.msg137852.html#msg137852

Carl definitely had two of those sunburst 12-string Epiphones at concerts, both with Gibson necks. I've seen both of them sitting backstage on more than one occasion. Carl would have his tech tuning up one while using the other.

Carl Wilson's arsenal:

* Kay single cutaway acoustic w/pick-up (his first)
* Fender Jaguar
* Fender Telecaster, w/Bigsby, yellow
* Fender Stratocaster, white
* Fender Stratocaster (Old Yeller) his favorite
* Fender Stratocaster, blonde
* Rickenbacker 360 12-string “Fireglo”. Limited edition (500) repros were made by Rickenbacker of the CW 6-string and 12-string varieties in both Fireglo and Jetglo finishes.
* Gibson ES-335 (Custom made in 1962, it had a blonde finish and gold hardware with a Bigsby B-7 tremolo. In 1983, the original guitar neck was broken and replaced with a neck from an ES-355).
* Gibson ES-335, blonde (w/o tailpiece)
* Gibson ES-335, red
* Gibson Epiphone Sheraton 6-string (borrowed from B. Hinshe, used for the '73 In Concert album)
* Gibson Epiphone Casino
* Gibson Epiphone Riviera 12-string, tobacco sunburst
* Gibson Les Paul, black
* Gibson Les Paul, sunburst
* Gibson Les Paul Jr. (2)
* Gibson Firebird
* Gibson J-200 acoustic
* Baldwin 712 12-string, red
* Martin Bicentennial D-76 acoustic
* David Russell Young custom acoustic
* Fender Band Master amp
* Fender Concert amp
* Fender Princeton amp
* Fender Dual Showman amp
* Fender Twin Reverb amp (Cerwin Vega speakers)
* Fender Twin Reverb amp (Gauss speakers)
* Fender Bassman amp
* Mitchell amp
* Peavy amp
* Orange amp
* Fender, Ernie Ball Slinky's, extra light strings

He had another blonde ES-335, the second one didn't have the tailpiece.

According to the interview that one belongs to Billy Hinsche I believe

I need hard evidence to support this before I add it to my list.  You got pictures, Emdeeh?  Or should I just trust your memory?  ;D

Mikie, I do have pictures of both guitars but can't get to them to scan right now.

I'm sure you do have pictures, Emdeeh, and I'll take your word for it. 

I just edited my list to include the other ES-335, sans tailpiece.

It's not the Jaguar but I thought it would fit in this thread. Posted by Billy Hinsche on Facebook:

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Carl Wilson's '67 - '67 Gibson ES 335 TD-12 currently on display at the Beach Boys' Grammy Museum Exhibit - on loan from Jonah & Justyn Wilson ... Photo credit: Ali Steubner

Thought I read online somewhere a while ago that Carl's Jaguar is in one of the Hard Rock Cafes?