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Title: "why isn’t the beach boys reunion tour selling out ?"
Post by: Rocker on May 28, 2012, 07:44:24 AM
Found this on the web. I haven't read the whole thing but it looks like someone has some thoughts (no matter if you agree or don't)

http://arkhonia.wordpress.com/2012/05/23/50-years-of-the-beach-boys-kokomo/ (http://arkhonia.wordpress.com/2012/05/23/50-years-of-the-beach-boys-kokomo/)


Title: Re: why isn’t the beach boys reunion tour selling out ?
Post by: Lowbacca on May 28, 2012, 07:49:05 AM
Found this on the web. I haven't read the whole thing but it looks like someone has some thoughts (no matter if you agree or don't)

http://arkhonia.wordpress.com/2012/05/23/50-years-of-the-beach-boys-kokomo/ (http://arkhonia.wordpress.com/2012/05/23/50-years-of-the-beach-boys-kokomo/)
I love The Time Machine.. but honestly I have no clue what this guy is getting at.. plus, last time I checked the tour was a huge success with many venues sold out in a matter of days.


Title: Re: why isn’t the beach boys reunion tour selling out ?
Post by: Shady on May 28, 2012, 08:01:59 AM
Not quite sure what you just posted, looks like just another blogger

But the tour is a huge success, obviously not every date has sold out but most have or are just off


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Post by: Jon Stebbins on May 28, 2012, 09:22:16 AM
Attendance on the tour is beating projections and expectations...so move on.


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Post by: endofposts on May 28, 2012, 09:29:24 AM
The guy writing that blog doesn't like the Beach Boys.  He's a Brian Wilson fanboy who doesn't like most of the work of his hero, or he wouldn't call the Beach Boys albums prior to "Pet Sounds" abominable.  He's also in England so he doesn't know anything about American ticket sales or venues.


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Post by: Jason on May 28, 2012, 09:36:25 AM
He's also in England

Proof positive that he's not to be taken seriously in a debate about America's Band.


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Post by: Landlocked on May 28, 2012, 10:52:54 AM
He's also in England so he doesn't know anything about American ticket sales or venues.

Do they lack the Internet in England? What would make an American more privy to that information?


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Post by: endofposts on May 28, 2012, 10:58:14 AM
He's also in England so he doesn't know anything about American ticket sales or venues.

Do they lack the Internet in England? What would make an American more privy to that information?

You get what I'm saying, right?  ::) Like he would know more about Brian's ticket sales in England than most Americans would, or whether it's significant if the venue is in London or in Bumf#%&-on-Mare.  The guy also claims that every tour in England that Brian ever did was a sell-out, and I'm not sure if that's the case or not.

No one, American or British, ever knows what tickets sales truly are, anyways, due to the fact that people buy tickets and are no-shows.  So, someone at a gig could see empty seats, but it could actually be a sell-out in terms of ticket sales, just not in turn out.  Sometimes people buy tickets months in advance then have other plans come up. Scalpers in the states often buy tickets anticipating demand but find out later they can't unload them at an inflated price, and have a hard time getting takers close to show time even if they reduce the prices because then nobody is looking for seats.  Conversely, a show could sell poorly, and the seats might be filled with tickets that are given away free, particularly at places attached to casinos.  It's hard for anyone to have an exact figure unless they're on the inside of the operations.  The Newsweek articles claims $70 million in ticket sales, so that's doing well, at least.


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Post by: Jason on May 28, 2012, 11:22:53 AM
He's also in England so he doesn't know anything about American ticket sales or venues.

Do they lack the Internet in England? What would make an American more privy to that information?

American false belief in omniscience is a trait inherited from the British. :)


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Post by: endofposts on May 28, 2012, 11:41:16 AM
He's also in England so he doesn't know anything about American ticket sales or venues.

Do they lack the Internet in England? What would make an American more privy to that information?

American false belief in omniscience is a trait inherited from the British. :)

I didn't read the whole thing, but his belief that the Beach Boys tour isn't selling out was someone (possibly an American) who posted a comment on his blog.  The blogger ran with it and his hope is that the Beach Boys don't do well, or in any case, that the tour is a one-time thing and will be forgotten.  He's rooting for the failure of the tour.  If he likes Brian, why would he want it to fail?  I've been to a Brian gig where there were only 500 people in a theater that held thousands more, and it was for TLOS, no less.  You'd think the guy would want more fans to know about Brian Wilson.  The more people who show up to hear "Kokomo" and see Mike Love and the car songs, the more people who will be exposed to Brian as well.


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Post by: Rocker on May 28, 2012, 12:00:25 PM
It's obvious the writer has something against Mike. I have no idea how tickets are selling for the tour but from all reports it sounds like it's going really well.
But what made me wonder is his remark that in England people are not really Beach Boys fans. I always had the feeling they are loved at least as much as in the U.S. (probably even more)


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Post by: lance on May 28, 2012, 12:06:49 PM
Guy's a bit of a Brianista but I enjoy his writing. His blog on the 25th anniversary TV special made me laugh out loud.


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Post by: lance on May 28, 2012, 12:08:38 PM
It's obvious the writer has something against Mike. I have no idea how tickets are selling for the tour but from all reports it sounds like it's going really well.
But what made me wonder is his remark that in England people are not really Beach Boys fans. I always had the feeling they are loved at least as much as in the U.S. (probably even more)
My impression is that the UK is generally less rockist than the USA and thus the Beach Boys are less uncool there.


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Post by: Sea Devil on May 29, 2012, 02:14:03 PM
But what made me wonder is his remark that in England people are not really Beach Boys fans. I always had the feeling they are loved at least as much as in the U.S. (probably even more)

Just look at the backlash on Brian's facebook page when us UK fans thought we weren't getting a gig to prove otherwise!


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Post by: Zach95 on May 29, 2012, 05:50:43 PM
I would go as far to say that 70 million dollars in ticket sales ain't half bad  ::)


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Post by: Zach95 on May 29, 2012, 05:52:58 PM
I would go as far to say that 70 million dollars in ticket sales ain't half bad, as mcg1119 stated  ::)


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Post by: puni puni on May 29, 2012, 06:30:57 PM
That article was perfect.


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Post by: bgas on May 29, 2012, 06:54:04 PM
It's obvious the writer has something against Mike. I have no idea how tickets are selling for the tour but from all reports it sounds like it's going really well.
But what made me wonder is his remark that in England people are not really Beach Boys fans. I always had the feeling they are loved at least as much as in the U.S. (probably even more)
My impression is that the UK is generally less rockist than the USA and thus the Beach Boys are less uncool there.

What does "less rockist" mean?