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Title: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Justin on April 23, 2012, 10:57:13 AM
Taken from a short convo in the Tour Dates sticky above, I thought it'd be good to start up the thread as a placeholder for the first gig tomorrow.  Hopefully this will start a trend where each specific gig gets their own thread here on the board.  I think it'd be a better way to organize the posts considering I'm sure everyone will be posting their reviews/pictures/videos/news articles about each gig.  Might be best to organize it this way so it's easier to find later?



Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 23, 2012, 10:58:52 AM
Meet and Greet Reviews by SonoraDick starts on page 16 of this thread:
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,12772.msg265565.html#msg265565


Set List (with thanks to Manchini!)


Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12

Do it again
Catch a wave
Don't back down
Surfin safari
Surfer girl
Little girl I once knew
Wendy
Then I kissed her
This whole world
Why fools
When i Grow up
Your so good
Cotton
Be true
Disney
Please wonder
Dont worry baby
Little Honda
L deuce coupe
409
Shut down
I get around

Intermission

Sloop
Wibn
In my rm
All this is that
Forever
Sail on sailor
Heroes and v
God only knows
That's why god...
Ca dreaming
Ca girls
Dance dance
All summer
Help me Rhonda
Rnr music
Do yu wanna dance
Barbara Ann
Surf USA
Kokomo
Good vibes
Fun fun fun


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Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: anazgnos on April 23, 2012, 11:03:02 AM
Hopefully this will start a trend where each specific gig gets their own thread here on the board. 

Great idea, but that should probably occur in the Concert Reviews subforum rather than here.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 23, 2012, 11:20:33 AM
I hearya anazgnos...I definitely would love if everyone would just direct themselves to that section but I can't help but see that the General Discussion section will be flooded with pics and videos anyway--especially since most of the traffic comes through here than any other section.  When the TSS was released--a side-board was created yet most of the converstaions about TSS still happened right here in the General Dicussions section. The current tour is sort of unprescendented around these parts because there hasn't been a tour of this size (or importance) in the history of this board...so I suspect we'll be all over the place! 

If the moderators care to step in and lay down some rules I think that'd be real great.  How about this:  Perhaps we can START each new thread for each gig here in the General Discussions section and then after about a week or so after everyone's posted their pictures and videos etc for that specific gig...the thread can then be moved over to the Review section?  I think that'd be the best method since it will avoid this section being flooded with 50 or 60 threads for each gig.   In the end it promotes some organizing and makes it clear to everyone that there is one thread being setup for each gig and will hopefully discourage multiple threads setup for the same show.  Just my thoughts....


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Runaways on April 23, 2012, 11:35:26 AM
One thread for all shows makes more sense to me


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Wrightfan on April 23, 2012, 11:38:56 AM
One thread for all shows makes more sense to me

I kinda like the separate thread idea. I know it's more threads but it helps organize concert photos better imo.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 23, 2012, 11:40:08 AM
Yeah we'll see, Runaways.  I  can't imagine clicking through (no doubt) 100+ pages of reviews and pictures trying to find something.  If the moderators have any suggestions or thoughts on my suggestions above; we'll see what they think but if it turns out everyone prefers just one thread, perhaps I'll just update the title of this thread to reflect the entire tour...


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: stack-o-tracks on April 23, 2012, 11:41:23 AM
One thread for all shows makes more sense to me

I kinda like the separate thread idea. I know it's more threads but it helps organize concert photos better imo.

Yeah... Having everybody post pictures, videos and reviews for all these upcoming shows in one thread is going to turn into a mess real quick.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 23, 2012, 11:49:32 AM
Yeah, plus it can be rather frustrating seeing two or three threads on the same subject.  I think if we all get used to the fact that there will be one "official" thread setup for each gig, that will hopefully regulate us from seeing two or three different threads just for the Hollywood Bowl gig or whatever.

Sorry folks...don't mean to be so OCD about it!  I'm totally excited for this tour and just hope that the board doesn't implode on itself during the whole thing!  :lol


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Rocker on April 23, 2012, 12:13:24 PM
I'd say post in the concert section or one thread per concert each ion this board


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 23, 2012, 12:16:50 PM
With the cooperation of the moderators I think we can ease the situation by creating a thread for each gig here on this board and then after about a week or so after everyone's posted pics/videos/reviews etc, the moderators can then permanently move the thread out of the General Discussion section and into the Concert Reviews section.  This way, we won't end up with this section being taken up with 60 posts about each gig.  Since this section contains the highest traffic, we'll start the thread here and then when the thread starts to waiver--off it goes to the Concert section.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Wilson Love on April 23, 2012, 12:19:36 PM
Any youtube clips up?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 23, 2012, 12:22:55 PM
Any youtube clips up?

The first pics are already in!

(http://www.zvents.com/dynamic_images/6/7/7/7/807776_470-50x250-50_2.jpg)


Womp womp womp.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: TonyW on April 23, 2012, 02:32:43 PM
It's already April 24 here in Australia.

Where's the concert reviews.

You Americans are so behind the times!!

 ;) ::) ;) ::)                ;) ::) ;) ::)                           





This is going to be an interesting 48 hours ...  ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Lowbacca on April 23, 2012, 02:37:31 PM
Any youtube clips up?

The first pics are already in!

(http://www.zvents.com/dynamic_images/6/7/7/7/807776_470-50x250-50_2.jpg)


Womp womp womp.
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SO EXCITED!!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Too Much Sugar on April 23, 2012, 02:51:41 PM
One thread for all shows makes more sense to me

I kinda like the separate thread idea. I know it's more threads but it helps organize concert photos better imo.

Perhaps a sub-forum in the Concert Reviews section completely dedicated to the reunion gigs? 


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Manchini on April 23, 2012, 02:57:47 PM
I am going to be attending this. However, my procrastination knows no bounds, withstanding even my Beach Boys obsession, so it sold out and only lawn seats were left. Now I'm sending out some e-mails to craigslist sellers, scrambling to find better seats. Regardless of where I sit, I'm excited and it will be fun!

(Hopefully my bitching about seats isn't too annoying to any UK people out there!)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: southbay on April 23, 2012, 03:03:29 PM
I am going to be attending this. However, my procrastination knows no bounds, withstanding even my Beach Boys obsession, so it sold out and only lawn seats were left. Now I'm sending out some e-mails to craigslist sellers, scrambling to find better seats. Regardless of where I sit, I'm excited and it will be fun!

(Hopefully my bitching about seats isn't too annoying to any UK people out there!)

stubhub


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on April 23, 2012, 03:04:00 PM

(Hopefully my bitching about seats isn't too annoying to any UK people out there!)

Not as long as you're recording it on good quality equipment.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Shady on April 23, 2012, 03:29:35 PM
This is a grat idea, the thread I made was made to discuss the dates and we did just that

A thread for each show will be really cool... In the main section  ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Manchini on April 23, 2012, 03:39:12 PM
I am going to be attending this. However, my procrastination knows no bounds, withstanding even my Beach Boys obsession, so it sold out and only lawn seats were left. Now I'm sending out some e-mails to craigslist sellers, scrambling to find better seats. Regardless of where I sit, I'm excited and it will be fun!

(Hopefully my bitching about seats isn't too annoying to any UK people out there!)

stubhub

f*** yeah. Now I'm set.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: southbay on April 23, 2012, 03:50:44 PM
I am going to be attending this. However, my procrastination knows no bounds, withstanding even my Beach Boys obsession, so it sold out and only lawn seats were left. Now I'm sending out some e-mails to craigslist sellers, scrambling to find better seats. Regardless of where I sit, I'm excited and it will be fun!

(Hopefully my bitching about seats isn't too annoying to any UK people out there!)

stubhub

f*ck yeah. Now I'm set.

you're welcome


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 23, 2012, 04:15:55 PM
Any guesses to the first song opener?

I'm gonna say "Do It Again"...but if it were up to me it would be "Can't Wait Too Long" as the curtain opens and reveals the guys on stage.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Too Much Sugar on April 23, 2012, 04:31:18 PM
Any guesses to the first song opener?

I'm gonna say "Do It Again"...but if it were up to me it would be "Can't Wait Too Long" as the curtain opens and reveals the guys on stage.

I'll predict "California Girls". 


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: hypehat on April 23, 2012, 04:40:25 PM
Mate, it's clearly going to be Ding Dang


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 23, 2012, 04:42:03 PM
If they dont' do "Ding Dang" anywhere in the set---this tour is one big FAIL  8)

I'm like 30% serious.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Too Much Sugar on April 23, 2012, 04:42:38 PM
Mate, it's clearly going to be Ding Dang

You're close.  It's been confirmed that they will open with "Rollin' Up To Heaven".  


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Rob Dean on April 23, 2012, 04:44:11 PM
Sorry if this has been posted , but a very interesting quote from Bruce on the BBB Board

Steve:
There is one song that I know of going on the set list that has a couple of small sections sung in spanish (but it's not "Kokomo")...

Bruce Johnston
Tucson, Airzona
April 23, 2012


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Too Much Sugar on April 23, 2012, 04:46:56 PM
Sorry if this has been posted , but a very interesting quote from Bruce on the BBB Board

Steve:
There is one song that I know of going on the set list that has a couple of small sections sung in spanish (but it's not "Kokomo")...

Bruce Johnston
Tucson, Airzona
April 23, 2012

I'd imagine "I Just Wasn't Made For These Times".  But very interesting. 


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Rob Dean on April 23, 2012, 04:52:14 PM
Sorry if this has been posted , but a very interesting quote from Bruce on the BBB Board

Steve:
There is one song that I know of going on the set list that has a couple of small sections sung in spanish (but it's not "Kokomo")...

Bruce Johnston
Tucson, Airzona
April 23, 2012

I'd imagine "I Just Wasn't Made For These Times".  But very interesting. 

Just maybe a NEW SONG that hasn't been mentioned anywhere yet , lets hope  8)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Rob Dean on April 23, 2012, 05:01:36 PM
And per the attached the BB's will be singing live along to Videos of Carl (GOK) and Dennis (Forever)

http://atlanta.metromix.com/entertainment/3047287


I really don't know how I initially feel about this 


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: hypehat on April 23, 2012, 05:04:45 PM
It's kind of a shame, as Brian and Bruce can both sing GOK nicely, and that's more fitting tribute.

No holograms, at least?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Wrightfan on April 23, 2012, 05:07:16 PM
And per the attached the BB's will be singing live along to Videos of Carl (GOK) and Dennis (Forever)

http://atlanta.metromix.com/entertainment/3047287


I really don't know how I initially feel about this 

Doesn't say it will be them singing, just video. Perhaps it'll be like how they did Can't Wait Too Long.

By the way, saw tomorrow's venue on Google Maps. They're literally playing in the middle of the desert! Very cool.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Emdeeh on April 23, 2012, 05:53:29 PM
Or they're singing "Forever" and GOK live, while videos of Dennis and Carl play in the background. At least, that's the way I understand it....





Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: HeyJude on April 23, 2012, 06:05:42 PM
Or they're singing "Forever" and GOK live, while videos of Dennis and Carl play in the background. At least, that's the way I understand it....





Yep, that seems far more likely. Interesting that the show will have this amount of multi-media stuff going on. At least we know they're spending some of that ticket price on something more elaborate!

I'm not big on needing this sort of thing, but if it's only video in the background, that's cool. If they start flying in old vocals, that will get pretty weird.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Autotune on April 23, 2012, 06:36:07 PM
Well, they HAD to include Carl and Dennis in some way. Whichever way will be fine. Fans would jump on them if the two deceased brothers weren't represented. And, as stated above, it's great that they're putting some production into the shows.

Edit: spelling corrected.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: I. Spaceman on April 23, 2012, 06:42:11 PM

 the two diseased brothers 

That made me laugh.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Wirestone on April 23, 2012, 07:03:28 PM

 the two diseased brothers 

That made me laugh.

Thank goodness for penicillin.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Ed Roach on April 23, 2012, 07:54:06 PM
And per the attached the BB's will be singing live along to Videos of Carl (GOK) and Dennis (Forever)

To tell the truth, I'm a little disappointed that they removed the surprise element of this from the show - although, come tomorrow, the shows will be discussed ad infinitum, and the surprise will be gone anyway...
That being said, "Forever" is mindblowing... and I'm not just saying that because a photo of mine kicks it off!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: 18thofMay on April 23, 2012, 07:55:51 PM
And per the attached the BB's will be singing live along to Videos of Carl (GOK) and Dennis (Forever)

To tell the truth, I'm a little disappointed that they removed the surprise element of this from the show - although, come tomorrow, the shows will be discussed ad infinitum, and the surprise will be gone anyway...
That being said, "Forever" is mindblowing... and I'm not just saying that because a photo of mine kicks it off!
Like


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Pretty Funky on April 23, 2012, 10:50:12 PM
Or they're singing "Forever" and GOK live, while videos of Dennis and Carl play in the background. At least, that's the way I understand it....


I mentioned the possibility of this in December.

My vote would be Elvis style video of GOK with Carl, and Dave singing lead on YASB with pictures of Dennis showing.

Would now prefer the band singing with just soundless video playing overhead. We will see tomorrow.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 23, 2012, 10:52:25 PM

That being said, "Forever" is mindblowing... and I'm not just saying that because a photo of mine kicks it off!

That's wonderful to read.  So glad they did the Dennis tribute right.  I'm sure the Carl tribute will be just as memorable.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Jaspy on April 23, 2012, 11:01:20 PM
And per the attached the BB's will be singing live along to Videos of Carl (GOK) and Dennis (Forever)

To tell the truth, I'm a little disappointed that they removed the surprise element of this from the show - although, come tomorrow, the shows will be discussed ad infinitum, and the surprise will be gone anyway...
That being said, "Forever" is mindblowing... and I'm not just saying that because a photo of mine kicks it off!
Like

Yes, since I'm active on facebook, I feel the need to give a thumbs-up to every post I like.
Perhaps they could include a thumbs-up function here.

Too bad there are no holograms.
I know, I'm probably the only person in the world who would've loved that.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Shady on April 23, 2012, 11:22:15 PM
I'm really excited for this..

It's gonna be fun following this show tonight


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Jimmie_R on April 23, 2012, 11:34:05 PM
How long is it until the show starts?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Summertime Blooz on April 24, 2012, 12:14:36 AM
It's hard for me to believe that there's going to be a Beach Boys concert later today featuring Brian Wilson.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Rocker on April 24, 2012, 04:03:39 AM
Or they're singing "Forever" and GOK live, while videos of Dennis and Carl play in the background. At least, that's the way I understand it....


I mentioned the possibility of this in December.

My vote would be Elvis style video of GOK with Carl, and Dave singing lead on YASB with pictures of Dennis showing.

Would now prefer the band singing with just soundless video playing overhead. We will see tomorrow.


I remember we talked about that. I'm happy it will be done. Maybe our suggestions were seen by the powers who look onto this board. Anyway, I'm really glad Dennis and Carl will be heard and that with such great song. Wonder which versions they'll use. Live versions or the - easier to isolate - studio recordings ?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: J.G. Dev on April 24, 2012, 04:20:02 AM
"Gotta get a ticket cause I really gotta go
There's a party goin' down at the rock'n'roll show
Baby get ready if you really wanna go
Now everybody's goin' to the rock'n'roll show"  :thewilsons


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Runaways on April 24, 2012, 05:02:31 AM
How long is it until the show starts?

Like 12 hours


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Wylson on April 24, 2012, 06:46:41 AM
Sorry if this has been posted , but a very interesting quote from Bruce on the BBB Board

Steve:
There is one song that I know of going on the set list that has a couple of small sections sung in spanish (but it's not "Kokomo")...

Bruce Johnston
Tucson, Airzona
April 23, 2012


Could me 'at my window'


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: hypehat on April 24, 2012, 06:54:15 AM
That's French.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 08:35:21 AM
So of the lucky people going to opening night of the tour tonight...can we expect live updates of the setlist as it happens (I know, now I"m getting greedy!)?  Or will we wait till after the show's over for reports? 


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: drbeachboy on April 24, 2012, 09:01:20 AM
I vote for live updates. :D To everyone going to the show, have a wonderful time, and let's hope they are spot on.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Jaspy on April 24, 2012, 09:38:21 AM
Enjoy the show
and record, record, record audio & movies,
but first of all, just enjoy!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: bgas on April 24, 2012, 09:59:59 AM
News from the Beach Boys for their VIPs: 

 Dear Beach Boys Meet & Greet + Soundcheck fan,
> Anselmo Valencia Amphitheater, TUCSON, April 24th, 2012
>  Meet & Greet + Soundcheck Package
> Here is your itinerary.  This information is REALLY IMPORTANT, so please read
everything VERY CAREFULLY!  You are in charge here, so please let everyone in
your party know the following information. 
> Please note the early afternoon check-in time, which is necessary to attend
the scheduled soundcheck. Most venues prohibit re-entry once you have checked
in, so please plan your day accordingly.

> The Basics:

> ·       This package is NON-TRANSFERABLE.
> ·       Meeting time: 3:00pm!
> ·       Meeting place: VIP Nation check-in table in front of the AVA Box
Office, located on the West side, closest to the casino.  Look for the VIP
Nation sign.
> Doors open to the public at 6:00pm.  The show begins at 7:00pm.*

> Just a reminder…   These packages are not transferable.
>>> Please don’t bring recording devices, or any other prohibited items. No
personal cameras (not even cell phones) allowed during the meet & greet, please.
> Due to time constraints the Beach Boys will not be able to sign any items.
>
> The Details
> Please meet your host, at the VIP Nation check-in table in front of the
AVA Box Office, located on the West side, closest to the casino, at 3:00pm.  If
you arrive late, you may miss the meet & greet and soundcheck. Please bring
PHOTO ID matching the ATTENDEE NAME on your order.  Please bring your order
confirmation as well just in case it’s needed.
> You’ll receive your exclusive Meet & Greet laminate, specially designed tour
shirt, collectible tour poster, commemorative ticket and an exclusive tote bag!
You’ll have special access to the Beach Boys soundcheck! You’ll have a meet and
greet with members of the Beach Boys!
> Then out to enjoy the show from your great seat(s) in rows 2-5!
> Doors open to the public at 6:00pm.  The show begins at 7:00pm.*
>  Any questions regarding your itinerary can be directed to the customer
service number.
> If you are running more than 45 minutes late, please call us or
text your host. If you are late, you may miss the meet & greet
and soundcheck.

> *All times subject to change without notice


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 10:05:02 AM
Thanks for that bgas.  No autographs at the meet and greet...makes sense.  It will no doubt be a quick in-and-out thing--autographs would take up too much time.  But we do get individual photos with each Beach Boy taken by a professional photographer, yes??  ;D 8)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Eric Aniversario on April 24, 2012, 10:22:20 AM
I can deal with no autographs, but no pictures???


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 10:24:40 AM
Well I expect that the "group picture" with the whole band will be taken by someone in the organization and will email out the pictures to us later.  No doubt it's going to be a substantial group of people at these meet and greets...so that picture with the group will be a little like "Where's Waldo?" when you're trying to spot yourself later, sadly.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Wirestone on April 24, 2012, 10:25:44 AM
Pictures were advertised in the packages that were sold. And not group, but a "personal picture."

http://vipnation.com/programs/beach-boys/


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 10:32:13 AM
Ah yes, that's right.  Thanks Wirestone.  Well, I think that word "personal" picture is up for interpretation.  I cannot see the guys standing there for maybe 20+ pictures with each individual fan when they can do the whole thing in one shot with the whole group standing around them.  Especially since they would have to do that on every gig on this tour.  I would obviously prefer the individual picture hands down...but I'm trying to be realistic (perhaps even a touch pessimistic).


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: anazgnos on April 24, 2012, 11:26:15 AM
Could be that they will have a photographer (or several) on hand taking atmosphere & candid shots throughout, so people can get prints after the fact.  That's basically what was done at the Brian signing at Fingerprints, to prevent people slowing down the line trying to get personal shots.  You might not get a posed, staged smiling photo but you would have pics of yourself standing in close proximity to/milling about with/talking to the Beach Boys.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: SG7 on April 24, 2012, 11:41:34 AM
I'm sure the touring band will be around too right?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 11:45:24 AM
Could be that they will have a photographer (or several) on hand taking atmosphere & candid shots throughout, so people can get prints after the fact.  That's basically what was done at the Brian signing at Fingerprints, to prevent people slowing down the line trying to get personal shots.  You might not get a posed, staged smiling photo but you would have pics of yourself standing in close proximity to/milling about with/talking to the Beach Boys.

Yeah I remember that at Fingerprints.  That could definitely be the case too.  I guess we'll find out soon enough...be interested to know how they arrange that.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: drbeachboy on April 24, 2012, 11:55:55 AM
For as much as I paid for that ticket, I expect more than a group photo. We deserve a little one on one.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: meltedwhiskeyinmyhand on April 24, 2012, 11:57:30 AM
For as much as I paid for that ticket, I expect more than a group photo. We deserve a little one on one.

I have a feeling this is going to get interesting....


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: bgas on April 24, 2012, 12:01:59 PM
For as much as I paid for that ticket, I expect more than a group photo. We deserve a little one on one.

I think everyone here would agree with you, and maybe you'll get what you expect, but this is the Beach Boys you're dealing with...


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Rocker on April 24, 2012, 12:07:10 PM
I hope someone who attends the first concert will post some during the intermission


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Lowbacca on April 24, 2012, 12:08:31 PM
Some of the Boys will be more sociable/chatty than others. That's just the way it is. But I doubt you will leave them disappointed.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 12:18:29 PM
On the VIP Nation Facebook page they've setup a few photo albums of recent meet and greets for other artists (Bryan Adams, Sugarland and Big Time Rush).  It appears that they do in fact set up a small area for each fan to join the entire band for a personalized group shot.  Here's a group of fans with the band Big Time Rush:

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/547158_10150715816592661_145321232660_9264104_1573243_n.jpg)

If the BB do this---that would be VERY cool!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on April 24, 2012, 12:19:11 PM
I DEMAND a picture of Mike and OSD hugging!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: SMiLE Brian on April 24, 2012, 12:22:12 PM
I DEMAND a picture of Mike and OSD hugging!
With OSD hiding a taser behind his back.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Lowbacca on April 24, 2012, 12:27:27 PM
On the VIP Nation Facebook page they've setup a few photo albums of recent meet and greets for other artists (Bryan Adams, Sugarland and Big Time Rush).  It appears that they do in fact set up a small area for each fan to join the entire band for a personalized group shot.  Here's a group of fans with the band Big Time Rush:

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/547158_10150715816592661_145321232660_9264104_1573243_n.jpg)

If the BB do this---that would be VERY cool!
I WANT BRIAN POSING AS JAMES BOND!  :3d Please, make it happen.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Cabinessenceking on April 24, 2012, 12:31:31 PM
Sorry if this has been posted , but a very interesting quote from Bruce on the BBB Board

Steve:
There is one song that I know of going on the set list that has a couple of small sections sung in spanish (but it's not "Kokomo")...

Bruce Johnston
Tucson, Airzona
April 23, 2012

Guys, it's the part where Mike introduces 'Bluebirds over the mountain'....


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on April 24, 2012, 12:32:52 PM
I DEMAND a picture of Mike and OSD hugging!
With OSD hiding a taser behind his back.

Yes, and then the taser being wrestled away from OSD by Jeff Foskett and John Stamos!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 12:35:10 PM
Nothing earth shattering but:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/steve-wright-in-the-afternoon/webcam-of-the-day/


Webcam Of The Day
The Beach Boys begin their 50th anniversary reunion world tour in Tucson, Arizona tonight.

They formed in 1961, and it’s 50 years this year since the Boys released their debut album Surfin’ Safari.

Founding members Brian Wilson, Mike Love and Al Jardine, plus Bruce Johnston and David Marks - who replace the late Wilson brothers Dennis and Carl – will perform together for the first time in 20 years.

The Beach Boys are one of best-selling acts of all time, having sold an incredible 100 million albums worldwide.

The band was inducted into Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1988 and performed Good Vibrations at this year’s Grammy Awards.

So today’s webcam is in Tucson, Arizona ready for the start of their reunion tour.


Check out our Arizona Cam


------------

The camera is just in commemoration of the tour...if you follow the link you'll see that the webcam simply points to a random spot in the city and is absolutley nowhere near the venue.  Sounded too good to be true!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Wrightfan on April 24, 2012, 12:37:02 PM
I can understand no autographs but no personal pictures even with a cell is kinda weird.

I saw a video of Alice Cooper during a VIP thing and it the guy was able to record for a while. In addition, I've seen KISS signing although that was specific in their package that they would.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Cabinessenceking on April 24, 2012, 12:54:18 PM
I can understand no autographs but no personal pictures even with a cell is kinda weird.

I saw a video of Alice Cooper during a VIP thing and it the guy was able to record for a while. In addition, I've seen KISS signing although that was specific in their package that they would.

But KISS' greatest hit 'I Was Made For Loving You' was derived from the chorus of H&V  ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Rocker on April 24, 2012, 01:07:04 PM
But I doubt you will leave them disappointed.



That's the spirit !!    ;D ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 24, 2012, 01:21:08 PM
On the VIP Nation Facebook page they've setup a few photo albums of recent meet and greets for other artists (Bryan Adams, Sugarland and Big Time Rush).  It appears that they do in fact set up a small area for each fan to join the entire band for a personalized group shot.  Here's a group of fans with the band Big Time Rush:

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/547158_10150715816592661_145321232660_9264104_1573243_n.jpg)

If the BB do this---that would be VERY cool!

Why. Why do the people in this photo exist.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: hypehat on April 24, 2012, 01:33:09 PM
Well, when a man and a woman love each other very much, they make babies.

Sadly, some of these babies are douchetrains.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Wrightfan on April 24, 2012, 01:33:40 PM
On the VIP Nation Facebook page they've setup a few photo albums of recent meet and greets for other artists (Bryan Adams, Sugarland and Big Time Rush).  It appears that they do in fact set up a small area for each fan to join the entire band for a personalized group shot.  Here's a group of fans with the band Big Time Rush:

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/547158_10150715816592661_145321232660_9264104_1573243_n.jpg)

If the BB do this---that would be VERY cool!

Why. Why do the people in this photo exist.

I honestly can't tell who in the photo is in the band and who the fans are  :lol


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on April 24, 2012, 01:35:00 PM
Well, when a man and a woman love each other very much, they make babies.

Sadly, some of these babies are douchetrains.

When a man needs a woman, they make things like you, my son.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: stack-o-tracks on April 24, 2012, 01:43:44 PM
....daddy?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: anazgnos on April 24, 2012, 01:52:41 PM
Quote from: Jonah
Hi!
Quote from: Carl
Trader.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 01:52:58 PM
I honestly can't tell who in the photo is in the band and who the fans are  :lol

I thought the same thing  :-D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on April 24, 2012, 01:58:26 PM
On the VIP Nation Facebook page they've setup a few photo albums of recent meet and greets for other artists (Bryan Adams, Sugarland and Big Time Rush).  It appears that they do in fact set up a small area for each fan to join the entire band for a personalized group shot.  Here's a group of fans with the band Big Time Rush:

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/547158_10150715816592661_145321232660_9264104_1573243_n.jpg)

If the BB do this---that would be VERY cool!

Why. Why do the people in this photo exist.

I honestly can't tell who in the photo is in the band and who the fans are  :lol

It's quite easy really. The people that look like utter wankers are the band, and the people that look like complete tossers are the fans.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 24, 2012, 03:14:26 PM
Quote from: Jonah
Hi!
Quote from: Carl
Trader.


:lol


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: SG7 on April 24, 2012, 03:23:27 PM
Quote from: Jonah
Hi!
Quote from: Carl
Trader.


:lol

Speaking of Carl... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-vsynsE8RQ


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Shady on April 24, 2012, 03:46:46 PM
Just over 3 hours till the show


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 03:55:00 PM
Board member Manchini has agreed to help us out and provide a few live updates throughout the show!  It won't be song-by-song updates but  he'll be emailing me and I'll be posting whatever info he can share.  Anything we can get is much appreciated!  Thanks Manchini!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Aegir on April 24, 2012, 03:57:11 PM
Man, I hope there's at least ONE crazy song in the setlist.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: southbay on April 24, 2012, 03:57:47 PM
There is a guy on the Bloo giving soundcheck play by play....


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 04:10:09 PM
There is a guy on the Bloo giving soundcheck play by play....


Good catch!  Here is what, Prodigal Son, has posted on that board.

SPOILER ALERT





Do It Again
Forever
Catch A Wave
Surfin Safari
Don't Back Down
This Whole World (Brian on lead vocals)
Honda
Cottonfields
Then I Kissed Her


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Zach95 on April 24, 2012, 04:12:01 PM
Quote from: Jonah
Hi!
Quote from: Carl
Trader.


:lol

Speaking of Carl... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-vsynsE8RQ

I just watched that entire thing. Why...  :'(


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Wirestone on April 24, 2012, 04:14:20 PM
There is a guy on the Bloo giving soundcheck play by play....


Good catch!  Here is what, Prodigal Son, has posted on that board.

SPOILER ALERT





Do It Again
Forever
Catch A Wave
Surfin Safari
Don't Back Down
This Whole World (Brian on lead vocals)
Honda
Cottonfields
Then I Kissed Her

AMAZING!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Aegir on April 24, 2012, 04:15:05 PM
There is a guy on the Bloo giving soundcheck play by play....


Good catch!  Here is what, Prodigal Son, has posted on that board.

SPOILER ALERT





Do It Again
Forever
Catch A Wave
Surfin Safari
Don't Back Down
This Whole World (Brian on lead vocals)
Honda
Cottonfields
Then I Kissed Her

Two songs from sunflower! Great.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Zach95 on April 24, 2012, 04:15:38 PM
That's a really great setlist, I'm particularly loving Don't Back Down, a surprising choice, and This Whole World with Brian on lead.  Then I Kissed Her should also be stellar.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Runaways on April 24, 2012, 04:17:09 PM
I really wanna know what the first tune will be


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: coco1997 on April 24, 2012, 04:17:33 PM
SPOILER ALERT





Do It Again
Forever
Catch A Wave
Surfin Safari
Don't Back Down
This Whole World (Brian on lead vocals)
Honda
Cottonfields
Then I Kissed Her

Fantastic!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Lowbacca on April 24, 2012, 04:18:58 PM
I really wanna know what the first tune will be
California Girls.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: SMiLE Brian on April 24, 2012, 04:19:34 PM
Hopes are up for a great tour.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 04:20:00 PM
Some more random comments from Prodigal Son:


Brian just asked for surfer girl

Band still working out arrangement for don't back down

Dave took the lead guitar solo on catch

Mike sounds really good

Set behind looks a bit like an old drive in marquee

Brian and Bruce are on short round red risers

Brian barking orders : )

Brian is stage left behind the big white grand. Al next to him. Can't see Bruce..then mike to Al's left ans Dave far right.

4 surf boards behind stage...huge vid screen behind w beach scenes

Key 5 up front. Backing band well behind boys



Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: NatureShowInStereo on April 24, 2012, 04:22:15 PM
I'd be pissed if I paid for VIP tix and couldn't even get an autograph or personal pic to prove it happened.

When someone says "stage left" do they mean as if you're on the stage looking out at the crowd?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: AndrewHickey on April 24, 2012, 04:24:55 PM
Another comment from Prodigal Son - Sail On Sailor (Brian lead).
He also said Al was taking the lead on WIBN.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Lowbacca on April 24, 2012, 04:25:06 PM
Brian barking orders : )
:rock :rock :rock :rock


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Craig Boyd on April 24, 2012, 04:25:45 PM
Al singing lead on WIBN! I wonder if they're doing it in the original key (doubtful) or in the same key Brian did it in when he sang it at his solo shows? If it's in the lower key then Al will nail it!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 04:26:06 PM
Another comment from Prodigal Son - Sail On Sailor (Brian lead).
He also said Al was taking the lead on WIBN.

Um yeah, so this tour officially rocks.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Rob Dean on April 24, 2012, 04:28:14 PM
Another comment from Prodigal Son - Sail On Sailor (Brian lead).
He also said Al was taking the lead on WIBN.

Um yeah, so this tour officially rocks.

FFS Why aren't we all there ??


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 04:29:46 PM
More from Prodigal Son:

Car set w/ coupe and 409

David takes all of the guitar leads,!!

Shut down (also)



Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 04:31:00 PM
Another comment from Prodigal Son - Sail On Sailor (Brian lead).
He also said Al was taking the lead on WIBN.

Um yeah, so this tour officially rocks.

FFS Why aren't we all there ??

No kidding!  It's finally happening folks...they just might be doing this tour....the way we had hoped.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Zach95 on April 24, 2012, 04:32:33 PM
Damn! This is fantastic! I'm loving all of this, especially hearing that Brian is ordering people around. I love thinking about that in my head  ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Rob Dean on April 24, 2012, 04:33:48 PM
Another comment from Prodigal Son - Sail On Sailor (Brian lead).
He also said Al was taking the lead on WIBN.

Um yeah, so this tour officially rocks.

FFS Why aren't we all there ??

No kidding!  It's finally happening folks...they just might be doing this tour....the way we had hoped.

Just read the bloo , and can I kindly say ?? Just cum in my pants  :o

SORRY !!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Wrightfan on April 24, 2012, 04:34:24 PM
Concert hasn't even started and this is already sounding awesome.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Wirestone on April 24, 2012, 04:34:34 PM
Okay, well ... remember that stupid thread I started a couple of days ago?

Forget it.

So far, this seems about as good as I could have imagined.

Now, about this "Spring Vacation" song ...


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: SBonilla on April 24, 2012, 04:34:56 PM
Another comment from Prodigal Son - Sail On Sailor (Brian lead).
He also said Al was taking the lead on WIBN.

Um yeah, so this tour officially rocks.

FFS Why aren't we all there ??

No kidding!  It's finally happening folks...they just might be doing this tour....the way we had hoped.

Just read the bloo , and can I kindly say ?? Just cum in my pants  :o

SORRY !!
Thanks for sharing.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Zach95 on April 24, 2012, 04:35:23 PM
Okay, well ... remember that stupid thread I started a couple of days ago?

Forget it.

So far, this seems about as good as I could have imagined.

Now, about this "Spring Vacation" song ...

That's the spirit!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 04:36:01 PM
Another comment from Prodigal Son - Sail On Sailor (Brian lead).
He also said Al was taking the lead on WIBN.

Um yeah, so this tour officially rocks.

FFS Why aren't we all there ??

No kidding!  It's finally happening folks...they just might be doing this tour....the way we had hoped.

Just read the bloo , and can I kindly say ?? Just cum in my pants  :o

SORRY !!

At least you said it kindly!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Rob Dean on April 24, 2012, 04:36:10 PM
Another comment from Prodigal Son - Sail On Sailor (Brian lead).
He also said Al was taking the lead on WIBN.

Um yeah, so this tour officially rocks.

FFS Why aren't we all there ??

No kidding!  It's finally happening folks...they just might be doing this tour....the way we had hoped.

Just read the bloo , and can I kindly say ?? Just cum in my pants  :o

SORRY !!
Thanks for sharing.

LOL The pleasure was all mine  :lol


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Wrightfan on April 24, 2012, 04:39:01 PM
Interesting about Forever. Not what I was expecting but it sounds like it will work based on Prodigal's comment.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: SMiLE Brian on April 24, 2012, 04:39:20 PM
Damn! This is fantastic! I'm loving all of this, especially hearing that Brian is ordering people around. I love thinking about that in my head  ;D
I wonder if he is going to revive his look of death when people screw up during songs? 8)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: AndrewHickey on April 24, 2012, 04:39:48 PM
It's sounding like the setlist is along the same lines as the 2008 Mike/Bruce/David shows -- lots of crowd pleasers but with a handful of early-70s stuff to please us fans, and a few early-60s songs-that-sound-like-hits.
Which is exactly what I both hoped and expected (and those 2008 shows were astonishing, so this should be too).


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Wirestone on April 24, 2012, 04:40:49 PM
It's sounding like the setlist is along the same lines as the 2008 Mike/Bruce/David shows -- lots of crowd pleasers but with a handful of early-70s stuff to please us fans, and a few early-60s songs-that-sound-like-hits.
Which is exactly what I both hoped and expected (and those 2008 shows were astonishing, so this should be too).

That's what the first couple of years of Brian's shows were like too -- some of his finest live work.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 04:41:19 PM
More....

Cal dreaming
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Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Rob Dean on April 24, 2012, 04:41:29 PM
Damn! This is fantastic! I'm loving all of this, especially hearing that Brian is ordering people around. I love thinking about that in my head  ;D
I wonder if he is going to revive his look of death when people screw up during songs? 8)

I think Brian is taking over Carl's stink eye


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: AndrewHickey on April 24, 2012, 04:41:54 PM
Interesting about Forever. Not what I was expecting but it sounds like it will work based on Prodigal's comment.

David does a great job on that one. I wonder if Totten or Foskett is doing the "Baby  baby my baby" bit? Foskett used to do it when Brian did the song on tour, but Totten sounds *spookily* close to the record when he does it...


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Rob Dean on April 24, 2012, 04:44:05 PM
It's sounding like the setlist is along the same lines as the 2008 Mike/Bruce/David shows -- lots of crowd pleasers but with a handful of early-70s stuff to please us fans, and a few early-60s songs-that-sound-like-hits.
Which is exactly what I both hoped and expected (and those 2008 shows were astonishing, so this should be too).

Andrew ( hope you are well mate ) sounds like maybe Scott Totten is the MD


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: AndrewHickey on April 24, 2012, 04:45:11 PM
It's sounding like the setlist is along the same lines as the 2008 Mike/Bruce/David shows -- lots of crowd pleasers but with a handful of early-70s stuff to please us fans, and a few early-60s songs-that-sound-like-hits.
Which is exactly what I both hoped and expected (and those 2008 shows were astonishing, so this should be too).

That's what the first couple of years of Brian's shows were like too -- some of his finest live work.

Brian's early live shows were slightly more weighted towards the obscurities and late 60s/early 70s stuff than the Mike/Bruce/David shows. I would *love* to see a setlist like the June 2002 UK Brian tour (best gigs I ever saw), but I doubt that'll be on the cards ever again. But the 2004/2008 Mike UK shows were almost as good and it sounds like we're getting that kind of setlist but with Brian's band.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: LetHimRun on April 24, 2012, 04:45:28 PM
Another comment from Prodigal Son - Sail On Sailor (Brian lead).
He also said Al was taking the lead on WIBN.

Um yeah, so this tour officially rocks.

FFS Why aren't we all there ??

No kidding!  It's finally happening folks...they just might be doing this tour....the way we had hoped.

Just read the bloo , and can I kindly say ?? Just cum in my pants  :o

SORRY !!

The sad part is you used it as a request, not the past-tense that might make it funny. It reads even worse than what it should have. LOL

Alas, I can overlook it because the updates on here are outstanding.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Shady on April 24, 2012, 04:45:50 PM
This is incredible, such fun times


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: AndrewHickey on April 24, 2012, 04:46:59 PM
It's sounding like the setlist is along the same lines as the 2008 Mike/Bruce/David shows -- lots of crowd pleasers but with a handful of early-70s stuff to please us fans, and a few early-60s songs-that-sound-like-hits.
Which is exactly what I both hoped and expected (and those 2008 shows were astonishing, so this should be too).

Andrew ( hope you are well mate ) sounds like maybe Scott Totten is the MD

Interesting, if true. I'd hoped for Darian to be in charge of that side of things, but Scott's created such an improvement in Mike's band, it'll be interesting to see what effect he has with Brian's.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Aegir on April 24, 2012, 04:47:27 PM
This seems great. Brian playing the white grand piano, yes!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 04:48:27 PM
Prodigal Son has signed off and will report back later after the show with a review and setlist.

End of the rollercoaster ride...for now!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Rob Dean on April 24, 2012, 04:49:46 PM
Another comment from Prodigal Son - Sail On Sailor (Brian lead).
He also said Al was taking the lead on WIBN.

Um yeah, so this tour officially rocks.

FFS Why aren't we all there ??

No kidding!  It's finally happening folks...they just might be doing this tour....the way we had hoped.

Just read the bloo , and can I kindly say ?? Just cum in my pants  :o

SORRY !!

The sad part is you used it as a request, not the past-tense that might make it funny. It reads even worse than what it should have. LOL

Alas, I can overlook it because the updates on here are outstanding.


It's all in the timing ( British Humour )  ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Wirestone on April 24, 2012, 04:49:56 PM
It's sounding like the setlist is along the same lines as the 2008 Mike/Bruce/David shows -- lots of crowd pleasers but with a handful of early-70s stuff to please us fans, and a few early-60s songs-that-sound-like-hits.
Which is exactly what I both hoped and expected (and those 2008 shows were astonishing, so this should be too).

Andrew ( hope you are well mate ) sounds like maybe Scott Totten is the MD

Interesting, if true. I'd hoped for Darian to be in charge of that side of things, but Scott's created such an improvement in Mike's band, it'll be interesting to see what effect he has with Brian's.

Darian hasn't been in charge of the BW band for some time. Apparently Mertens has been the MD recently. As for this tour, who knows? Hard to imagine it's one of Mike's guys, though.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Shady on April 24, 2012, 04:50:30 PM
Prodigal Son has signed off and will report back later after the show with a review and setlist.

End of the rollercoaster ride...for now!

Damn. Well ill be keeping tabs on twitter for pics


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 04:52:16 PM
Nice, Slim, that'll be cool.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: LetHimRun on April 24, 2012, 04:57:15 PM
Another comment from Prodigal Son - Sail On Sailor (Brian lead).
He also said Al was taking the lead on WIBN.

Um yeah, so this tour officially rocks.

FFS Why aren't we all there ??

No kidding!  It's finally happening folks...they just might be doing this tour....the way we had hoped.

Just read the bloo , and can I kindly say ?? Just cum in my pants  :o

SORRY !!

The sad part is you used it as a request, not the past-tense that might make it funny. It reads even worse than what it should have. LOL

Alas, I can overlook it because the updates on here are outstanding.


It's all in the timing ( British Humour )  ;D

Yes, I can see. I am American, but greatly love British humo(u)r. ;) With so many from the UK on here, it makes it even more enjoyable for myself.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 04:57:34 PM
Brand new news article from Tuscon tonight....note the highlighted section:


The Beach Boys Are Coming to Phoenix (And Playing Tucson Tonight)

It hurt back in February, when we had to announce that The Beach Boys were visiting our lovely neighbors to the South (some weird town nobody had every heard of called Tucson.

I suggested a road trip -- and if you were into the idea you're probably packing the car up now to head to the Anselmo Valencia Amphitheater at Casio Del Sol.

But fear not if the thought of the two hour trek on the I-10 sounds a bit much: The Beach Boys have announced a date right here in Phoenix. Mark your calenders: the band's 50th Anniversary tour (presumably featuring Uncle Jesse) is coming to Phoenix on Saturday, July 7 at Grand Canyon University.

"The songs are 2-minutes long, but they manage speak volumes," says Danny Zelisko, longtime Phoenix promoter and host of "The Regular Guy Radio Program" on 93.3 KDKB. "They're the guys."

Zelikso was in attendance for show rehearsals, and says the sets are lasting up to three hours.  

"Honestly, it's like seeing The Beatles," Zelisko says.

Featuring Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Al Jardine, Bruce Johnston, and David Marks, The Beach Boys are scheduled to perform on Saturday, July 7 (weekend show). Tickets go on sale on Monday, April 30, through gcuarena.com.

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/uponsun/2012/04/beach_boys.php


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Rob Dean on April 24, 2012, 04:59:00 PM
Nice, Slim, that'll be cool.

Well its nearly 1am here in the UK , looks like (again ) I'm in for a very very late night/early morning ( thankfully I'm working from home tomorrow/today ) but hey It's worth it  8)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 05:01:02 PM
That works out for ya nice eh Rob?  Put on some coffee (or tea??) and have yourself a mini-Beach Boys show tonight/this morning!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Lowbacca on April 24, 2012, 05:06:30 PM
Nice, Slim, that'll be cool.

Well its nearly 1am here in the UK , looks like (again ) I'm in for a very very late night/early morning ( thankfully I'm working from home tomorrow/today ) but hey It's worth it  8)
Good for you, man. Similar situation over here, but I gotta hit the sack soon... can't believe I'm going to be asleep while the BBs play their first reunion concert.  :-\

People, I'm expecting photos, reviews and (if possible) a clip or two in the (German) morning, to go along with my Kellog's.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: anazgnos on April 24, 2012, 05:10:41 PM
Man this is awesome..."This Whole World" and "Sail on Sailor" is like the top level of the obscurity level I was hoping for, but I was worried they wouldn't even do that much.  As long as songs like those are in the mix I'll be totally satisfied.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: bgas on April 24, 2012, 05:12:46 PM
perhaps they're just playing all these gems in the soundcheck, and then they'll simply play the hits in the actual show.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Rob Dean on April 24, 2012, 05:13:33 PM
That works out for ya nice eh Rob?  Put on some coffee (or tea??) and have yourself a mini-Beach Boys show tonight/this morning!


This time of night Justin it has to be the British way TEA all the way , coffee gets me too wired at the late hours - Big big time for me , like a lot of Brits the last time I saw Brian with the Boys was at Knebworth in June 1980 ( I was then 16 , a bloody life time ago - Married, then four gorgeous daughters and divorced - yes a life time ago )


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: HeyJude on April 24, 2012, 05:19:20 PM
perhaps they're just playing all these gems in the soundcheck, and then they'll simply play the hits in the actual show.

It's certainly possible that we won't get every one of these tracks in the setlist. Artists often do stuff in soundchecks that either isn't in the actual setlist or is something that is rotated in and out of the setlist. I would imagine most everything they're doing in the soundcheck is a candidate for the tour and will more than likely be rotated into the setlist at some point. I don't think they are a typical artist that just jams on random stuff in soundchecks that never make it into setlists. It's sounding like they are working stuff out for inclusion in the show.

On the other hand, if they're rigging video stuff synced to songs and other lighting stuff, then the setlist would probably have to be tied down relatively firmly.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: GoofyJeff on April 24, 2012, 05:19:31 PM
perhaps they're just playing all these gems in the soundcheck, and then they'll simply play the hits in the actual show.

Phil? Is that you?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: southbay on April 24, 2012, 05:24:01 PM
What is showtime tonight? 7 pm pacific?  8 pm?  Remember, Arizona oddly does not observe day light savings time


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 05:27:48 PM
8pm PST as far as I know.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Aegir on April 24, 2012, 05:29:46 PM
More like every state oddly DOES observe DST.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 05:30:18 PM
That works out for ya nice eh Rob?  Put on some coffee (or tea??) and have yourself a mini-Beach Boys show tonight/this morning!


This time of night Justin it has to be the British way TEA all the way , coffee gets me too wired at the late hours - Big big time for me , like a lot of Brits the last time I saw Brian with the Boys was at Knebworth in June 1980 ( I was then 16 , a bloody life time ago - Married, then four gorgeous daughters and divorced - yes a life time ago )

Better be some strong tea...Hope it keeps you up well through the night to see the show unfold!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Shady on April 24, 2012, 05:30:27 PM
wow,  never been more disappointed a UK tour never happened


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: SG7 on April 24, 2012, 05:49:32 PM
I wish Greg Larson could have seen this. Smile finally coming out and a reunion?? He'd be over the moon.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Peter Reum on April 24, 2012, 05:54:31 PM
Both Greg and Bob Hanes would have been over the moon....


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Rob Dean on April 24, 2012, 05:58:59 PM
Both Greg and Bob Hanes would have been over the moon....


Well said Peter , lets raise a glass to these great guys ( and others as well )  :'(


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: ohthosegirls on April 24, 2012, 06:32:09 PM
Well I guess that means no holograms! Dennis singing forever with live harmonies from the band will for sure be quite a highlight no doubt. Wonder if they'll do the same for Carl...?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: coco1997 on April 24, 2012, 06:38:37 PM
Well I guess that means no holograms! Dennis singing forever with live harmonies from the band will for sure be quite a highlight no doubt. Wonder if they'll do the same for Carl...?

Yep, "God Only Knows" is confirmed as dedicated to Carl.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: ohthosegirls on April 24, 2012, 06:43:17 PM
Too awesome.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Ron on April 24, 2012, 06:46:30 PM

Sorry folks...don't mean to be so OCD about it! 

Too late! lol

I suppose the show will be starting in about an hour or so?  I'm on the east coast.  I'm hoping they all enjoy themselves!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Mikie on April 24, 2012, 06:47:05 PM
Well said Peter , lets raise a glass to these great guys ( and others as well )  :'(

I just did.  Those two guys were the uppermost of the toppermost of Beach Boys fans.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Emdeeh on April 24, 2012, 06:51:30 PM
"This Whole World"!!!!!!

 :bow :love :happydance :woot




Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Mikie on April 24, 2012, 06:53:55 PM
That's what I was thinking, MDH.  Obviously they have open minds.  I think more surprises are coming....

Keep the album cuts coming, Boys!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Ron on April 24, 2012, 06:58:16 PM
Crazy too that Brian's doing "Sail on Sailor" doesn't he always say the lyrics suck?  lol


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Shady on April 24, 2012, 07:07:49 PM
So I'm guessing this is the merch

(http://distilleryimage1.instagram.com/366a88268e7b11e1a39b1231381b7ba1_7.jpg)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Zach95 on April 24, 2012, 07:11:20 PM
So I'm guessing this is the merch

(http://distilleryimage1.instagram.com/366a88268e7b11e1a39b1231381b7ba1_7.jpg)

Young people! Those shirts look great  ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: stack-o-tracks on April 24, 2012, 07:17:08 PM
Yeah, tiny shorts!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Mikie on April 24, 2012, 07:23:18 PM
Nice (o)(o).  Is she part of the VIP package?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: myonlysunshine on April 24, 2012, 07:28:48 PM
My friend who is at the show just sent me this pic.

(http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/7330/img0001whn.jpg)

Shows you just what the stage looks like.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Shady on April 24, 2012, 07:31:02 PM
That looks pretty cool


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: dumbangel76 on April 24, 2012, 07:35:30 PM
That is awesome!!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: coco1997 on April 24, 2012, 07:45:08 PM
I wouldn't mind if the image on that girl's shirt wound up being the new album's cover art.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Shady on April 24, 2012, 07:47:41 PM
(http://distilleryimage10.instagram.com/eea2ccd48e7e11e19e4a12313813ffc0_7.jpg)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 07:48:09 PM
From Manchini

(http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx347/justinmsosa2/Misc/e-1.jpg)

(http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx347/justinmsosa2/Misc/photo.jpg)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Shady on April 24, 2012, 07:49:41 PM
Man that's a really nice set up..

Brian on the high rise


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: sheknowsmetoowell on April 24, 2012, 07:50:06 PM
gahhhhhhh, I feel like a little school girl.  ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: drbeachboy on April 24, 2012, 07:51:33 PM
Don't get too excited and keep your knickers on. ;)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 07:52:00 PM
More notes from board member, Manchini:  

Brian's got his white piano setup with built in prompter in the sheet stand, thought it was neat. The rest of the guys are stage left from him. 2 drum kits, crazy.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Wild-Honey on April 24, 2012, 07:55:37 PM
Thanks for the updates!  LOVING THIS.. closest thing to being there :)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: myonlysunshine on April 24, 2012, 07:59:50 PM
The show is already about seven songs in, they just played Surfer Girl. My friend, who is a casual Beach Boy fan, just told me that I'm going to have the time of my life when I go. He said the set list is fantastic so far from what they've played. Some very good signs.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 08:00:04 PM
From Manchini:

Ok here goes:

Do it again
Catch a wave
Don't back down
Surfin safari
Surfer girl
Little girl I once knew
Wendy
Then I kissed her
This whole world


(so far)

Brian sounding real cool on this whole world.

They all sound great, Mike sounding awesome. Al f*cked up during LGIOK and mike shot him a hilarious stare. That struck me as very funny. I'll try to keep going with updates, photos hard to get unfortunately


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: coco1997 on April 24, 2012, 08:01:06 PM
WOW! Love seeing "Wendy" in there!!  8)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 24, 2012, 08:03:18 PM
Very glad to see "The Little Girl I Once Knew", too.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: ontor pertawst on April 24, 2012, 08:04:22 PM
I'm just going to do some high pitched squealing noises in the background here ala the TAMI show if you don't mind.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on April 24, 2012, 08:05:25 PM
I guess I'm not getting any sleep tonight!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: dumbangel76 on April 24, 2012, 08:07:39 PM
This is awesome!! My wife is telling me I am looking giddy! I am so there for the show at the Woodlands!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 08:16:09 PM
Just a heads up to all that Manchini would be providing updates every so often throughout the show and not necesssarily after every single song...so don't expect too much after you refresh the page every 5 seconds!  ;D :lol

Thank you Manchini!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: ontor pertawst on April 24, 2012, 08:18:02 PM
You do realize I will be refreshing the page every five seconds anyway, right?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 08:20:13 PM
You do realize I will be refreshing the page every five seconds anyway, right?

ha!  Had to do my part and just mention it!  ;)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on April 24, 2012, 08:20:29 PM
You do realize I will be refreshing the page every five seconds anyway, right?

This.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Shady on April 24, 2012, 08:22:53 PM
Nearly 100 people reading the thread, very cool


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: ohthosegirls on April 24, 2012, 08:26:58 PM
Is it just me or has anyone else had "This Whole World" stuck in their head for the past 20 minutes or so?? It's morphed into the Spring version now...oh boy!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Runaways on April 24, 2012, 08:27:31 PM
This is awesome!! My wife is telling me I am looking giddy! I am so there for the show at the Woodlands!

me too man!  a couple others from here will be there too


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on April 24, 2012, 08:28:06 PM
I honestly can't believe this is actually happening. I think my Jeff dislike has melted away. If he had anything at all to do with engineering this amazing feat, then God bless the man!  ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Chris Brown on April 24, 2012, 08:29:18 PM
These updates are all amazing to read, huge thanks to Justin for relaying them!  Really digging some of the song choices I'm seeing too.  

I can't help but be reminded of the BWPS premiere as we all gather to hear the latest news...the best kind of deja vu for sure.  


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: drbeachboy on April 24, 2012, 08:29:26 PM
Nearly 100 people reading the thread, very cool
This is great stuff tonight. Thanks Manchini and to you Justin for keeping us up to date all evening.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: ontor pertawst on April 24, 2012, 08:32:51 PM
What I want to read here is that they did an Our Prayer intro into a full Heroes & Villains.

(Ok, and I'm greedy, have Al do Vega-tables!)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: SMiLE Brian on April 24, 2012, 08:34:22 PM
Really thinking about getting tickets to the north carolina show next week.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on April 24, 2012, 08:34:30 PM
Nearly 100 people reading the thread, very cool
This is great stuff tonight. Thanks Manchini and to you Justin for keeping us up to date all evening.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 08:34:57 PM
My pleasure, everybody...this ocassion really doesn't come around too often so it only makes sense that we all share in the opening night festivities.

But obviously, big thanks to Manchini for being generous enough to send the updates out.  I'm sure he's having a great time...it's been about half an hour since his last update  :lol  Let's hope the next ones comes soon...


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Les Chan on April 24, 2012, 08:35:41 PM
Amazing thread!  I'm so excited too!  I wonder if they will perform Country Air?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Wrightfan on April 24, 2012, 08:40:05 PM
Is it just me or has anyone else had "This Whole World" stuck in their head for the past 20 minutes or so?? It's morphed into the Spring version now...oh boy!

Same. Mostly the beginning of it ("I'm Thinkin' bout a this whole worrrrld!")


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Ron on April 24, 2012, 08:41:51 PM
Is it just me or has anyone else had "This Whole World" stuck in their head for the past 20 minutes or so?? It's morphed into the Spring version now...oh boy!

It's because it's got everything.  It's a psuedo-crazy Brian song that just happens to be incredibly good.  It has that balls-to-the-wall harmony in the background, beautiful lyrics, and just 2.5 minutes of pure positive energy.  Then they kill the music and sing acapella like nobody's ever sang before.  


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Dunderhead on April 24, 2012, 08:43:29 PM
It was hard to make it through work knowing I'd be missing out on this thread. Glad to see I didn't miss all the fun.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Zach95 on April 24, 2012, 08:44:27 PM
I want to hear some audio!  :o


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: stack-o-tracks on April 24, 2012, 08:46:48 PM
I want to hear some audio!  :o

Usually the first place where audio or video is posted is on Twatter. Of course you have to find somebody willing to sift through thousands of twats twatting about what songs they're listening to in order to find what you're looking for.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Dunderhead on April 24, 2012, 08:50:32 PM
Looks like I was pretty far off in my prediction for this tour:

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,12566.msg258346.html#msg258346


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 24, 2012, 08:51:59 PM
:D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: ohthosegirls on April 24, 2012, 08:52:59 PM
Is it just me or has anyone else had "This Whole World" stuck in their head for the past 20 minutes or so?? It's morphed into the Spring version now...oh boy!

It's because it's got everything.  It's a psuedo-crazy Brian song that just happens to be incredibly good.  It has that balls-to-the-wall harmony in the background, beautiful lyrics, and just 2.5 minutes of pure positive energy.  Then they kill the music and sing acapella like nobody's ever sang before.  

And that's not even going into the Spring version, which is quite a track, too!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: stack-o-tracks on April 24, 2012, 08:53:26 PM
Thought this was a funny twat:

Beach Boys light show is circa 1985. There's more action on all the Hawaiian shirts In the crowd. And there are lots.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Generation42 on April 24, 2012, 08:54:11 PM
This sure is fun.  Excited for Darien Lake!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 08:54:28 PM
2nd Update from Manchini (complete set list up to this point)

Do it again
Catch a wave
Don't back down
Surfin safari
Surfer girl
Little girl I once knew
Wendy
Then I kissed her
This whole world
Why fools
When i Grow up
Your so good
Cotton
Be true
Disney
Please wonder
Dont worry baby
Little Honda
L deuce coupe
409
Shut down
I get around

Intermission

So good so far. I don't want it to ever end. Brian doesn't care to be honest, haha. At intermission somebody yelled his name and he waved dismissively, but everyone ate it up anyway. I don't mind though, because he's really putting everything into it vocally. I think the pressure of the rest of the bb's is making him step up. Their harmonies are sounding great, and yes they're all audible, at the front of the mix as far as I can hear. Marks is a really good presence, great singing and Gtr and rocking the shades like a baller. Mike is doing his banter (which I love. Always been a highlight for me) and has great energy, don't let his hoarse speaking voice fool you cuz his singin is awesome. Bruce did a beautiful performance of Disney girls, seriously. Al rocked the sh*t out of cotton fields. I'm not being unreasonably positive, of course others may find it different when the guys roll thru their town, but to me this is the greatest. They are working out the kinks obviously, it's the first show, but it only gives the show life and reality in my opinion. Too many good words to type. I will keep you in on the set list. Lots of cameras so everybody will see this sooner or later, thankfully.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Shady on April 24, 2012, 08:54:36 PM
Thought this was a funny twat:

Beach Boys light show is circa 1985. There's more action on all the Hawaiian shirts In the crowd. And there are lots.

That's pretty disappointing to hear


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: ontor pertawst on April 24, 2012, 08:55:11 PM
ohpleaseohplease now do Our Prayer after the intermission ohpleaseohplease


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: stack-o-tracks on April 24, 2012, 08:58:26 PM
Thought this was a funny twat:

Beach Boys light show is circa 1985. There's more action on all the Hawaiian shirts In the crowd. And there are lots.

That's pretty disappointing to hear

Eh, who goes to a Beach Boys concert for the light show?

Another one: I am looking at the set list and know I gonna lose it when Carl and dennis wilson join in singing on video.

and this: Saw it in sound check last night and it is brilliant. As of they were here.

I think he means "as if" so looks like the band will be singing along with videos of Dennis & Carl. Sort of do not want....


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Zach95 on April 24, 2012, 08:58:34 PM
QUESTION: Did Mike do an extended "when" on Be True!?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Wirestone on April 24, 2012, 08:59:40 PM
Quote
Brian doesn't care to be honest, haha. At intermission somebody yelled his name and he waved dismissively, but everyone ate it up anyway.

Don't understand this. He doesn't care? And yet he's putting everything into it vocally? Please explain.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: ohthosegirls on April 24, 2012, 08:59:59 PM
QUESTION: Did Mike do an extended "when" on Be True!?

I was just thinking that...ha. My bet is he did!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: GoofyJeff on April 24, 2012, 09:00:28 PM
"Be True..." is definitely one song I had hoped they'd omit from this tour.  Please, oh please, tell me at least they sang it straight and Mike didn't do that 2 minute long "Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen"



Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 09:00:33 PM
QUESTION: Did Mike do an extended "when" on Be True!?

I was just thinking that...ha

Ha---I just asked Manchini...waiting on his response.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Runaways on April 24, 2012, 09:02:02 PM
man i hope they're still this into it on june 8th.  I NEED VIDEOOOS


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Wirestone on April 24, 2012, 09:02:20 PM
Amazing setlist. Always look at them as though they're a mix tape, and that's a pretty good Beach Boys mix tape. Love going from the ballad section into the car section through DWB -- which is, of course, both.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Dunderhead on April 24, 2012, 09:02:39 PM
Sorry, I really hope Mike does the nasal domination on Be True. It's hilarious.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Wirestone on April 24, 2012, 09:03:27 PM
QUESTION: Did Mike do an extended "when" on Be True!?

I was just thinking that...ha. My bet is he did!

Brian gets to do This Whole World?

Mike gets to do WHEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeEEEEEeeeEEEEEEEN ....

That's how compromise works.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: NatureShowInStereo on April 24, 2012, 09:03:35 PM
QUESTION: Did Mike do an extended "when" on Be True!?

I was just thinking that...ha

Ha---I just asked Manchini...waiting on his response.

lol I actually thought of this as well. classic youtube video.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Shady on April 24, 2012, 09:03:43 PM
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Dunderhead on April 24, 2012, 09:06:11 PM
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen

I doubt Mike has ever had so many hanging on that one note as he does now


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: southbay on April 24, 2012, 09:06:37 PM
wondering who took the lead on Don't Worry Baby?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: coco1997 on April 24, 2012, 09:08:19 PM
Just noticed "Please Let Me Wonder" in the setlist. This makes me very, very happy.  :-D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Shady on April 24, 2012, 09:09:32 PM
wondering who took the lead on Don't Worry Baby?

Jeff or Al I wonder


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: southbay on April 24, 2012, 09:11:51 PM
wondering who took the lead on Don't Worry Baby?

Jeff or Al I wonder

I would guess foskett, but Brian did it on the Live at the Roxy cd.  So many questions...


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: ivy on April 24, 2012, 09:12:18 PM
Is it safe to just be unabashedly excited now? This all sounds too great.

Thank you to all involved in getting these updates.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 24, 2012, 09:13:03 PM
wondering who took the lead on Don't Worry Baby?

Jeff or Al I wonder

I would guess foskett, but Brian did it on the Live at the Roxy cd.  So many questions...

Twelve years and probably hundreds of Foskett leads ago. :(


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Runaways on April 24, 2012, 09:14:10 PM
i actually liked how it sounded when brian did in lower key for Roxy


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 09:14:46 PM
22 songs so far, my count.  I'd guess perhaps we can expect another 10 or so obscure/deep cuts and then the usual 10 songs which will be the usual greatest hits songs to close out the show.  Just a prediction...


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: SG7 on April 24, 2012, 09:15:00 PM
i actually liked how it sounded when brian did in lower key for Roxy

When I first saw him in 04 for Smile. he was still doing it. I guess it was after that the lead changed on that.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: southbay on April 24, 2012, 09:15:57 PM
wondering who took the lead on Don't Worry Baby?

Jeff or Al I wonder

I would guess foskett, but Brian did it on the Live at the Roxy cd.  So many questions...

Twelve years and probably hundreds of Foskett leads ago. :(

Wow,was that really 12 years ago?  I was at that Roxy concert


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: stack-o-tracks on April 24, 2012, 09:16:07 PM
Here comes dennis wilson singing forever on film! They are choked up on stage like all of us are.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Shady on April 24, 2012, 09:16:57 PM
Here comes dennis wilson singing forever on film! They are choked up on stage like all of us are.

wow


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Jon Stebbins on April 24, 2012, 09:18:41 PM
I'm getting choked up at the thought that I'm gonna see this on Friday in New Orleans. Oh Man!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Runaways on April 24, 2012, 09:18:57 PM
isn't foskett kinda in the back? hows he gonna get a lead


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Ron on April 24, 2012, 09:27:18 PM
i actually liked how it sounded when brian did in lower key for Roxy

A few years ago, in Italy, Brian and band did Don't Worry Baby, original key, with Brian singing lead (Jeff doubling I think).  So he could do it if he wanted. 


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: stack-o-tracks on April 24, 2012, 09:37:41 PM
Carl doing God Only Knows. I honestly would rather hear Brian singing it with a video tribute to Carl.

And now it's the new single.

This guy right here has been updating pretty regularly: https://twitter.com/#!/DZPresents


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: southbay on April 24, 2012, 09:39:29 PM
What happened to our updater Justin? Did he go to bed?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 09:41:06 PM
Haha..still here. Only posting when there's an update from Manchini...I suppose the next one will be coming soon; he seems to be sending it out once an hour or so.


Don't have the exact running order but the guy on Twitter that stack-o-tracks mentioned, posted these songs were played:

Sloop John B
Forever
God Only Knows
Heroes and Villians
That's Why God Made The Radio


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: stack-o-tracks on April 24, 2012, 09:43:31 PM
Nother picture from Twatter:

(https://p.twimg.com/ArTQZyQCIAEzrA8.jpg)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Shady on April 24, 2012, 09:44:38 PM
Damn, can't make the band out


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Wirestone on April 24, 2012, 09:44:56 PM
According to Twitter feed, they have done Sail On Sailor and H&V too ...


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: coco1997 on April 24, 2012, 09:45:21 PM
Based on that guy's tweets, looks like second set has been (so far):

Sloop John B
Wouldn't It Be Nice
Forever
Sail On Sailor
Heroes & Villains
In My Room
God Only Knows
That's Why God Made The Radio
California Girls
Dance, Dance, Dance
Help Me Rhonda
Do You Wanna Dance?
Fun, Fun, Fun


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Runaways on April 24, 2012, 09:47:48 PM
my god, that second set. 

i was thinking it'd be odd to have them singing with carl and dennis, but the more i think about it, i think that's really cool and touching.  I'm really looking forward to seeing that for myself. 


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Runaways on April 24, 2012, 09:50:31 PM
man i can't wait for my show.  I haven't even seen brian or mike/bruce. GAWD I CAN'T WAIT


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: southbay on April 24, 2012, 09:51:22 PM
ok, obviously getting near the end.  What was the song with the spanish line?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Dunderhead on April 24, 2012, 09:51:49 PM
Can't wait to hear about the crowd freaking out for GV


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Jay on April 24, 2012, 09:54:47 PM
I'm curios if they'll do the "hum be dum" part for Good Vibrations.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: anazgnos on April 24, 2012, 09:55:29 PM
It's like a Mike set and a Brian set.  Perfect.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Jay on April 24, 2012, 09:56:51 PM
I just noticed something interesting while going through the set list. No Kokomo?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: southbay on April 24, 2012, 09:57:13 PM
I just noticed something interesting while going through the set list. No Kokomo?

encore


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: stack-o-tracks on April 24, 2012, 09:57:30 PM
I just noticed something interesting while going through the set list. No Kokomo?

Savin' the best for last.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on April 24, 2012, 09:57:47 PM
No Kokomo?

As if.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Ron on April 24, 2012, 09:58:02 PM
my god, that second set.  

i was thinking it'd be odd to have them singing with carl and dennis, but the more i think about it, i think that's really cool and touching.  I'm really looking forward to seeing that for myself.  

It'll be more poignant if they just DO it, and don't even mention what's going on.  You know what I mean?  Just start playing God Only Knows (has there ever been a more beautiful intro?), and have the video with Carl smiling, and then when it gets to the vocals.... it's Carl singing on the video.  

I hope they don't explain what's going on, I hope they just DO it... that would blow everybody away.  


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Alan Smith on April 24, 2012, 09:58:39 PM
I'm curios if they'll do the "hum be dum" part for Good Vibrations.
That would be cool - any odds on the encore being Barbara f*ckin Ann, Surfin USA, Good Vibes?

Thanks for the updates everyone - indoor weather in my part of the world, so this is makin' my day


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Ron on April 24, 2012, 10:01:06 PM
Good Vibrations was their last number 1, before Kokomo, so they may do both back to back or something.  I love Kokomo though so that would be great to me.  I'm with everybody in their distaste for Barbara FUCKING ann. 


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Mikie on April 24, 2012, 10:01:14 PM
Forever, Don't Back Down, Little Girl I Once Knew, Wendy, Then I Kissed Her, This Whole World, You're So Good To Me, Cottonfields, Disney Girls, Please Let Me Wonder.    Very cool!!   Looking forward to hearing those.  Where's Darlin'?

Do we know who all's on stage?  


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: southbay on April 24, 2012, 10:04:38 PM
Forever, Don't Back Down, Little Girl I Once Knew, Wendy, Then I Kissed Her, This Whole World, You're So Good To Me, Cottonfields, Disney Girls, Please Let Me Wonder.    Very cool!!   Looking forward to hearing those.  Where's Darlin'?

Do we know who all's on stage? 

Let Darlin' rest with Carl.  Nobody can do it justice.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: send me a picture and i'll tell you on April 24, 2012, 10:04:57 PM
Does Brian have an ashtray on his white grand piano?
 :smokin


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: anazgnos on April 24, 2012, 10:06:17 PM
https://twitter.com/#!/DZPresents
after California Girls:

Dance Dance Dance
Help Me Rhonda
Do You Wanna Dance
Fun Fun Fun


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: stack-o-tracks on April 24, 2012, 10:06:45 PM
Gawd twitter is awful. Nobody gives a flying fucq what song you're currently listening to. At least a lot of people are retwatting stuff about the new song & album and most of it has been positive.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Ron on April 24, 2012, 10:10:56 PM
Couldn't you just ignore twitter, if you don't care what he's saying? 


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 10:13:15 PM
(http://p.twimg.com/ArTXRjZCEAA7-Gq.jpg)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Shady on April 24, 2012, 10:14:37 PM
(http://p.twimg.com/ArTXRjZCEAA7-Gq.jpg)

 ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on April 24, 2012, 10:15:21 PM
Bruce isn't wearing shorts!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: stack-o-tracks on April 24, 2012, 10:16:22 PM
Couldn't you just ignore twitter, if you don't care what he's saying? 

I'm not just looking at that guy's, I'm looking at every mention of "beach boys" and the hashtag of "#beachboys"

I'd like to see videos of the performance as soon as humanely possible. It just sucks having to search through a bunch of people "omg don't worry babby is such a good song" or lyrics from Wouldn't It Be Nice and posting pictures of their media player showing the cover to Endless Summer. It's like f***. I think twitter is responsible for making people hella stupider than they already were by having to get as many words as they possibly can in 140 characters or less causing them to forgo the use of proper grammar and spelling.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: send me a picture and i'll tell you on April 24, 2012, 10:17:44 PM
3 hats- oh my!  Is Brian's hair brown?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Jay on April 24, 2012, 10:18:49 PM
How involved was Brian? When he wasn't singing lead, did he sing backing vocals with everybody else? Did he play the piano? I know he sat behind it, but did he actually play it on all the songs? Did he leave the stage at all?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: NatureShowInStereo on April 24, 2012, 10:20:10 PM
Good Vibrations was the last song apparently? Waiting on any tweets regarding an encore.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Aegir on April 24, 2012, 11:02:46 PM
whatever's happening during the encore, it must be so amazing that people are unable to give us more updates.

and also it's 40 minutes long.

probably not.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Wirestone on April 24, 2012, 11:03:58 PM
whatever's happening during the encore, it must be so amazing that people are unable to give us more updates.

and also it's 40 minutes long.

probably not.

Heh. Yeah, pretty sure it ended with Good Vibes. No mention of Kokomo.

Have to say, the show sounded great. But I'm surprised at the lack of online chatter. Ah well, maybe tomorrow.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: STE on April 24, 2012, 11:05:51 PM


So any confirmation on who is in the backing band?



Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 24, 2012, 11:21:02 PM
Shamelessly stolen from the Bloo:

Do It Again
Catch a Wave
Don’t Back Down
Safari
Surfer Girl – with a huge ovation for Brian’s lead vocal
Mike asks for requests
Little Girl I once Knew
Wendy – Dave Lead Vocal
Then I kissed Her
This Whole World
Mike Intro’s Brian to a standing ovation
Why Do Fools Fall In Love – incredible harmonies
When I Grow Up
Your so Good To Me – Great Brian Lead
Cottonfields –Al rocked it out
Mike referenced the Dodgers opening day appearance – says that when they started…they were the Brooklyn Dodgers ha ha ha
Be True to Your school
Disney Girls – Song of the night!!! Incredible harmonies
Please Let Me Wonder – Brian Lead..Bruce says” I Love You”
Don’t Worry baby – Jeff lead vocal
Little Honda – some GREAT dave surf guitar licks
Little Deuce Coupe
409
Shut Down
I get Around

Band takes a Break – 20 minutes

Sloop John B
Wouldn’t it be Nice
Forever – Dennis video vocal and band backs him up with Harmonies and music – really nice video trib with pix
Sail On Sailor – Great Brian vocal
Heroes and Vils – traditional version but with the SMiLE acapella ending
In My Room
All This Is That – Darian takes Carls part
God Only Knows – Same video trib as Dennis with Carls lead vocal and the band backs it up – Mike very emotional and says “Carl is with us tonight”
That’s Why God Made the Radio – Crowd LOVED it…very nice tune
California Dreaming
California Girls
Dance, Dance, Dance
All Summer Long
Help Me, Rhonda
Do Ya Wanna Dance – Dave on lead vocal
Barbara Ann
Surfin’ USA

Encore
Kokomo
Good Vibes
Fun Fun Fun


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 11:22:28 PM
Final update from Manchini:

Ha yeah Mike did the "when" bit (he shortened it for sure!) and it was funny to watch BW stare blankly into space while he did so. Actually Brian transformed during intermission and came back with smiles and sweet karate chop hand gestures and cooks eating grits pantomiming during his lead vox. I was thankful everytime we were able to just hear him singing without being propped up because his voice has great character! Wish they (or he) would let it shine more. He ended "SoS" with a cool sustained note. The forever and GOK videos were very tasteful. Mike paid tribute before each song and it was very sweet. They actually played the track and sang harmonies over video and live leads from Dennis and Carl. Everybody I watched around me was gracious about these bits.

I'm just listening to people talk post concert. Everyone I've eavesdropped on enjoyed themselves. They think it was slow at first but that it picked up, and that Brian came back after intermission with more energy.

Anyhow, they smashed the 2nd half of the set. Don't know what else to say, I could go on with my commentary all night.  They did play that's why god made the radio, did it justice. I'd like to write more of my thoughts, and I will later, but if you have any questions let me know. Here's the remainder of the set list. I plan on adding who sang lead etc.

I'm not trying to over-dramatize the whole event, overall it was just really a blessing to see my favorite band reunited with good production value (lights, stage setting etc), an extensive setlist and everybody giving it their best effort and the outcome was - honestly - what I'd hoped it would be.

I f*cked something up in the post-intermission setlist. It's out of order somehow but I can't remember why. Anyway here it is:

Sloop
Wibn
In my rm
All this is that
Forever
Sail on sailor
Heroes and v
God only knows
That's why god...
Ca dreaming
Ca girls
Dance dance
All summer
Help me Rhonda
Rnr music
Do yu wanna dance
Barbara Ann
Surf USA
Kokomo
Good vibes
Fun fun fun

(http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx347/justinmsosa2/Misc/d.jpg)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: STE on April 24, 2012, 11:23:16 PM

From PS:

The band was Jeff and Scott immediately up behind the boys and kind of co-musically directing. Nicky, Paul, Scotty, Darian, John Cowsill, Nelson, Brett, Probyn.




Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 11:23:32 PM
So that does it for me, folks.  Hope you all had a good time.  It was a magical night!

A big round of applause to Manchini for the set list updates and for coming in with the very first reviews of the night!  


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 24, 2012, 11:25:13 PM
"All This Is That"

 :thud


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Shady on April 24, 2012, 11:27:43 PM
Great stuff

Can't wait for the vids...

I'm feeling worse than ever that I might not see this show


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Aegir on April 24, 2012, 11:28:46 PM
weird, manchini says they played Rock and Roll Music but Andrew's post of the whole setlist doesn't mention it


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 11:29:48 PM
"All This Is That"

 :thud

Hot damn.  That right there is the song I desperately needed to hear on this tour.  YES!!  When I met Mike (and had that picture taken with him) I asked him how many songs they'd rehearse and he said about 40.  I said "can I request "All This Is That?"  His assistant said "Ohhh that's a beautiful song!" and Mike said to me, "You like that one, eh?"  

I don't care if it's a coincidence...I'm going to think he added it to the set because of my suggestion!  And that's that.  This is that, that is.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 24, 2012, 11:31:14 PM
weird, manchini says they played Rock and Roll Music but Andrew's post of the whole setlist doesn't mention it

Be hugely surprised if they didn't do that. The setlist will emerge in a few hours.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Jaspy on April 24, 2012, 11:32:41 PM
The setlist looks Ok, but not great.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Ron on April 24, 2012, 11:34:39 PM
Personally I think the setlist, and all the news from the show was fantastic, sounds like it was one hell of a party, wish I were there.  It's really cool to see these guys drop the b.s. and get back to doing what they're GREAT at.  We should all be so lucky to have such a calling in life!  These guys never have to wake up in the morning and wonder what their purpose is.  


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Ron on April 24, 2012, 11:37:02 PM
"All This Is That"

 :thud

Hot damn.  That right there is the song I desperately needed to hear on this tour.  YES!!  When I met Mike (and had that picture taken with him) I asked him how many songs they'd rehearse and he said about 40.  I said "can I request "All This Is That?"  His assistant said "Ohhh that's a beautiful song!" and Mike said to me, "You like that one, eh?"  

I don't care if it's a coincidence...I'm going to think he added it to the set because of my suggestion!  And that's that.  This is that, that is.

It is quite a fantastic song but the Carl parts are going to be tricky.  I understand Mike and Bruce have done it before, I wonder how they handled that beautiful, really, super, "columnated ruins' high falsetto part Carl did towards the end on the original?  I've never heard any of the backup guys sing quite THAT high.  BTW, if anybody's reading this, anybody care to take a stab at what that note actually is?  The "Jaiiii......  guru dev" that he does after the last verse. 


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Wirestone on April 24, 2012, 11:38:54 PM

From PS:

The band was Jeff and Scott immediately up behind the boys and kind of co-musically directing. Nicky, Paul, Scotty, Darian, John Cowsill, Nelson, Brett, Probyn.


I'm pretty sure Mike D'Amico was there. He was in rehearsal pics with Al and Nelson, at least. So that would be the whole BW band, right, sans Taylor?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: stack-o-tracks on April 24, 2012, 11:39:11 PM
Awesome setlist. I wonder how many will be rotated in and/or dropped in the upcoming weeks and months. June 3 can't come soon enough!!!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Fall Breaks on April 24, 2012, 11:42:34 PM
"All This Is That"

 :thud

Hot damn.  That right there is the song I desperately needed to hear on this tour.  YES!!  When I met Mike (and had that picture taken with him) I asked him how many songs they'd rehearse and he said about 40.  I said "can I request "All This Is That?"  His assistant said "Ohhh that's a beautiful song!" and Mike said to me, "You like that one, eh?"  

I don't care if it's a coincidence...I'm going to think he added it to the set because of my suggestion!  And that's that.  This is that, that is.

It is quite a fantastic song but the Carl parts are going to be tricky.  I understand Mike and Bruce have done it before, I wonder how they handled that beautiful, really, super, "columnated ruins' high falsetto part Carl did towards the end on the original?  I've never heard any of the backup guys sing quite THAT high.  BTW, if anybody's reading this, anybody care to take a stab at what that note actually is?  The "Jaiiii......  guru dev" that he does after the last verse. 
That's just a C#. He goes up to a D on the repetitions.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: stack-o-tracks on April 24, 2012, 11:45:59 PM
Where all tha media at?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 11:46:28 PM
And here we go:

(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/io.AW40jbInWMSqcNj6O4w--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD02MTI7cT04NTt3PTQwOQ--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/gettyimages.com/beach-boys-50th-anniversary-concert-20120424-221649-429.jpg)

(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/73wGOg5E1aoO_L5RRnI8IA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD02MTI7cT04NTt3PTQwOQ--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/gettyimages.com/beach-boys-50th-anniversary-concert-20120424-221659-271.jpg)

(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/Ai2WDU7_Ubj1I.heIUEomg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0zNDI7cT04NTt3PTUxMg--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/gettyimages.com/beach-boys-50th-anniversary-concert-20120424-221659-315.jpg)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 24, 2012, 11:47:38 PM
The setlist looks Ok, but not great.

Hi Phil.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Wirestone on April 24, 2012, 11:48:28 PM
That's Mikey, right?

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/574706_346341542090814_100001449127373_994650_246019145_n.jpg)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: STE on April 24, 2012, 11:50:49 PM

Looks like, but might not be.  What would he do?  Two different drummers playing side by side?



Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Smilin Ed H on April 24, 2012, 11:50:56 PM
"Bruce isn't wearing shorts!"  ;D

But he is wearing the bloody cap!  ::)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Shady on April 24, 2012, 11:52:33 PM
And here we go:

(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/io.AW40jbInWMSqcNj6O4w--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD02MTI7cT04NTt3PTQwOQ--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/gettyimages.com/beach-boys-50th-anniversary-concert-20120424-221649-429.jpg)

(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/73wGOg5E1aoO_L5RRnI8IA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD02MTI7cT04NTt3PTQwOQ--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/gettyimages.com/beach-boys-50th-anniversary-concert-20120424-221659-271.jpg)

(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/Ai2WDU7_Ubj1I.heIUEomg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0zNDI7cT04NTt3PTUxMg--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/gettyimages.com/beach-boys-50th-anniversary-concert-20120424-221659-315.jpg)

They look ecstatic


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: STE on April 24, 2012, 11:54:16 PM
The setlist looks Ok, but not great.

Hi Phil.


Geez... now whenever somebody is not excited about something he's pulling a Phil?
It is ok to have different opinions!




Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 24, 2012, 11:57:04 PM
It is quite a fantastic song but the Carl parts are going to be tricky.  I understand Mike and Bruce have done it before, I wonder how they handled that beautiful, really, super, "columnated ruins' high falsetto part Carl did towards the end on the original?  I've never heard any of the backup guys sing quite THAT high.  BTW, if anybody's reading this, anybody care to take a stab at what that note actually is?  The "Jaiiii......  guru dev" that he does after the last verse. 

I was actually listening to the Glasgow 2004 Mike/Bruce show throughout the night and on came "All This Is That"...not sure if the line up was the same then as it was before this current tour but whoever did the falsetto (bass player?) did an ok job and hit the notes with no issue:

http://soundcloud.com/justin-sosa/all-this-is-that-glasgow-2004


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Wylson on April 25, 2012, 12:01:16 AM


(http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx347/justinmsosa2/Misc/d.jpg)
[/quote]

Brian just wants out


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Jay on April 25, 2012, 12:04:32 AM
"All This Is That"

 :thud

Hot damn.  That right there is the song I desperately needed to hear on this tour.  YES!!  When I met Mike (and had that picture taken with him) I asked him how many songs they'd rehearse and he said about 40.  I said "can I request "All This Is That?"  His assistant said "Ohhh that's a beautiful song!" and Mike said to me, "You like that one, eh?"  

I don't care if it's a coincidence...I'm going to think he added it to the set because of my suggestion!  And that's that.  This is that, that is.

It is quite a fantastic song but the Carl parts are going to be tricky.  I understand Mike and Bruce have done it before, I wonder how they handled that beautiful, really, super, "columnated ruins' high falsetto part Carl did towards the end on the original?  I've never heard any of the backup guys sing quite THAT high.  BTW, if anybody's reading this, anybody care to take a stab at what that note actually is?  The "Jaiiii......  guru dev" that he does after the last verse. 
Go back and read your comment a few times, closely. See anything glaringly incorrect?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 25, 2012, 12:06:05 AM
"All This Is That"

 :thud

Hot damn.  That right there is the song I desperately needed to hear on this tour.  YES!!  When I met Mike (and had that picture taken with him) I asked him how many songs they'd rehearse and he said about 40.  I said "can I request "All This Is That?"  His assistant said "Ohhh that's a beautiful song!" and Mike said to me, "You like that one, eh?"  

I don't care if it's a coincidence...I'm going to think he added it to the set because of my suggestion!  And that's that.  This is that, that is.

It is quite a fantastic song but the Carl parts are going to be tricky.  I understand Mike and Bruce have done it before, I wonder how they handled that beautiful, really, super, "columnated ruins' high falsetto part Carl did towards the end on the original?  I've never heard any of the backup guys sing quite THAT high.  BTW, if anybody's reading this, anybody care to take a stab at what that note actually is?  The "Jaiiii......  guru dev" that he does after the last verse. 

Just been Skyped by someone who was there - seems Brian took Carl's part for at least part of the song.

Also, I'm told Mikey D'Amico was playing bass and Brett was nowhere to be seen.  :shrug


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Jaspy on April 25, 2012, 12:07:23 AM
The setlist looks Ok, but not great.

Hi Phil.


Geez... now whenever somebody is not excited about something he's pulling a Phil?
It is ok to have different opinions!

Thanks man.

Of course all songs in the setlist are great, I love them all.
But the WOW-effect isnt' there for me. Not that it has to.
It's more or less exactly what I was expecting. Greatest Hits & few half-rarities.
Wouldn't it have been great if the 5 BB did a song like "Surfin'" alone, that would've been mindblowing for example.
But it doesn't matter, it's still great, fantastic, groovy.

@ABC: There's a board called Blueboard for people like you.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Wirestone on April 25, 2012, 12:07:55 AM
Also, I'm told Mikey D'Amico was playing bass and Brett was nowhere to be seen.  :shrug

Bizarre!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 25, 2012, 12:13:41 AM
The setlist looks Ok, but not great.

Hi Phil.


Geez... now whenever somebody is not excited about something he's pulling a Phil?
It is ok to have different opinions!

Thanks man.

Of course all songs in the setlist are great, I love them all.
But the WOW-effect isnt' there for me. Not that it has to.
It's more or less exactly what I was expecting. Greatest Hits & few half-rarities.
Wouldn't it have been great if the 5 BB did a song like "Surfin'" alone, that would've been mindblowing for example.
But it doesn't matter, it's still great, fantastic, groovy.

@ABC: There's a board called Blueboard for people like you.

SOH failure much ?  ;)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Ron on April 25, 2012, 12:23:55 AM
They look ecstatic

That's just their "kickin' ass" look.  They came to kick ass.  Mission accomplished. 


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Ron on April 25, 2012, 12:25:48 AM
"All This Is That"

 :thud

Hot damn.  That right there is the song I desperately needed to hear on this tour.  YES!!  When I met Mike (and had that picture taken with him) I asked him how many songs they'd rehearse and he said about 40.  I said "can I request "All This Is That?"  His assistant said "Ohhh that's a beautiful song!" and Mike said to me, "You like that one, eh?"  

I don't care if it's a coincidence...I'm going to think he added it to the set because of my suggestion!  And that's that.  This is that, that is.

It is quite a fantastic song but the Carl parts are going to be tricky.  I understand Mike and Bruce have done it before, I wonder how they handled that beautiful, really, super, "columnated ruins' high falsetto part Carl did towards the end on the original?  I've never heard any of the backup guys sing quite THAT high.  BTW, if anybody's reading this, anybody care to take a stab at what that note actually is?  The "Jaiiii......  guru dev" that he does after the last verse. 
Go back and read your comment a few times, closely. See anything glaringly incorrect?

No I don't... enlighten me, please. 


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Jimmie_R on April 25, 2012, 12:31:37 AM
We´re talking about "All this and that". The "columnated ruins'  is in "Surf´s up"


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Awesoman on April 25, 2012, 12:32:02 AM


(http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx347/justinmsosa2/Misc/d.jpg)

Brian just wants out
[/quote]

Yeah, it sure looks that way.  Here's hoping he makes it through for the entire tour.  At least he'll hopefully be there for Atlanta.  :-)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 25, 2012, 12:33:19 AM
We´re talking about "All this and that". The "columnated ruins'  is in "Surf´s up"

I think Ron was simply using the lyric from "Surf's Up" as a reference for Carl's high vocal which he does in the outro during "All This Is That" as well. 


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 25, 2012, 12:34:45 AM

Brian just wants out

Yeah, it sure looks that way.  Here's hoping he makes it through for the entire tour.  At least he'll hopefully be there for Atlanta.  :-)

Well Brian was always one to exit the stage early.  Even when he toured solo.  I wouldn't put much into it here.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Ron on April 25, 2012, 12:35:44 AM
Justin; thank you for restoring my faith in humanity.  LOL  Although I believe Brian did it on Surf's up, but yes that's what I was alluding to. 


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Ron on April 25, 2012, 12:41:12 AM


(http://i770.photobucket.com/albums/xx347/justinmsosa2/Misc/d.jpg)

Brian just wants out
[/quote]

Earlier somebody was talking about "Brian Doesn't Care" and laughing about it, suggesting that it was funny...  And Wirestone or somebody was asking wtf because he obviously does, since he spent so much effort trying to sing well. 

This picture shows exactly what the guy was talking about.  Brian, like a lot of geniuses (and I do believe he's a musical genius) has problems understanding social ettiquette sometimes.  He doesn't mean anything by it, it's just for the life of him he can't figure out why the hell he's supposed to stand out there and bow for exactly 4 minutes instead of 3 minutes. 


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: CarlTheVoice on April 25, 2012, 12:41:42 AM
Reading all this makes me so upset that no UK dates have been announced yet but so happy that it seems to have been a success. I am also relieved that they gave Carl and Dennis a fitting tribute and that must have been emotional. They would have loved to have been there.

I hope there are plenty of videos, pictures and stories as I will enjoy looking at them all!



Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Wirestone on April 25, 2012, 12:42:24 AM
Signing off for the night. I'm very pleased. This setlist really hits a sweet spot for me, and is better than I expected. They got the big things right -- good mix of songs, rehearsal -- and the little things -- that white piano!

I look forward to following (and hopefully hearing) this in the next couple of days.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 25, 2012, 12:43:31 AM
Justin; thank you for restoring my faith in humanity.  LOL  Although I believe Brian did it on Surf's up, but yes that's what I was alluding to. 

I do what I can  8)

I'm off to bed...good night to all.  It was a fun evening and I hope to wake up to find a gaggle of videos and reviews waiting for me in the morning!

God Bless The Beach Boys.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Jay on April 25, 2012, 12:45:49 AM
We´re talking about "All this and that". The "columnated ruins'  is in "Surf´s up"

I think Ron was simply using the lyric from "Surf's Up" as a reference for Carl's high vocal which he does in the outro during "All This Is That" as well. 
I realised that after I posted my comment. I apologise. I wasn't trying to be rude or anything to begin with. I knew it was probably just a little slip. Andrew G Doe is right...sometimes a smiley or two comes in handy.  ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Jay on April 25, 2012, 12:52:49 AM
Does anybody know where Carl and Dennis's vocals came from? It would be awesome if they used previously unreleased concert tapes from the archives.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Custom Machine on April 25, 2012, 12:54:01 AM
Absolutely great setlist!  It not only includes my top 3 all time favorite BB songs - Forever, God Only Knows, and Please Let Me Wonder, but also features This Whole World, You're So Good to Me, Disney Girls, Wendy, Cottonfields, etc, etc.  Really looking forward to their Southern Calif appearances.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: MBE on April 25, 2012, 01:01:20 AM
Every non seasonal pre 1976 LP is in there except Friends and Wild Honey. Pretty impressive.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 25, 2012, 01:20:36 AM
Every non seasonal pre 1976 LP is in there except Friends and Wild Honey. Pretty impressive.

I'd love to hear stuff from these two, but damn - "Heroes And Villains"? "Forever" with a Dennis vocal? "The Little Girl I Once Knew"? "You're So Good To Me"? "Cottonfields"? "Please Let Me Wonder"? "Sail On Sailor"? "All This Is That"?

I just did not expect the likes of most of that stuff to appear in the setlist, and that's just the bigger ones. Pretty cool.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: SonoraDick on April 25, 2012, 01:25:44 AM
Just got home from the show. I've glanced through the previous posts & will try to add something new. If I missed it & it's old, sorry!

Merchandise- Saw a couple of pics of shirts on an earlier page. There were several available. I think all were in the $35-40 range. The one I bought was made in Honduras. I didn't spend too much time at the stand but also saw some hats & the usual other junk like key chains. The tour program is a pricey $25.00, but it's big (about 12''x12") & roughly 40 pages. It's arranged chronologically by decade & is almost entirely graphic... I only saw one page of text.

Soundcheck... Scott Totten is CLEARLY in charge. No division of duties or power with Jeffrey at all. He's the one giving direction on stage, too. However, I did hear someone say "Brian's had enough" & the soundcheck abruptly ended.  Brian, by the way, was walking with a noticeable limp. He was way behind the others leaving the stage at intermission and held tightly by someone (couldn't see who) when the band returned to the stage for the encore. I thought he sounded dreadful during the soundcheck, but just fine during the show. Maybe just bored by rehearsing?

Introduction of the band... In a word, none. No "America's band, the Beach Boys", or any type of announcement. The backing band came out & immediately started playing the intro of "DIA", & then the Beach Boys followed. The start of the show was similar to the old days when the band would rattle off 5 or 6 songs without comment. Tonight it was different songs & only four, but they showed up ready to work.

During Dennis' video portion when the band wasn't playing,  I saw Al , who was watching the video same as the audience & had his back turned to us, raise his water bottle in a definite toast to Dennis. A very nice gesture. Mike was somber during both videos. The audio portion wasn't quite as clear as it might have been, but overall, I thought both tributes were done very tastefully.

Overall, I thought it was a terrific show. I envy those of you who are still awaiting your turn & am sorry for those of you who might not get a chance to see our amazing band.  


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Dunderhead on April 25, 2012, 01:37:35 AM
Just got home from the show. I've glanced through the previous posts & will try to add something new. If I missed it & it's old, sorry!

Merchandise- Saw a couple of pics of shirts on an earlier page. There were several available. I think all were in the $35-40 range. The one I bought was made in Honduras. I didn't spend too much time at the stand but also saw some hats & the usual other junk like key chains. The tour program is a pricey $25.00, but it's big (about 12''x12") & roughly 40 pages. It's arranged chronologically by decade & is almost entirely graphic... I only saw one page of text.

Soundcheck... Scott Totten is CLEARLY in charge. No division of duties or power with Jeffrey at all. He's the one giving direction on stage, too. However, I did hear someone say "Brian's had enough" & the soundcheck abruptly ended.  Brian, by the way, was walking with a noticeable limp. He was way behind the others leaving the stage at intermission and held tightly by someone (couldn't see who) when the band returned to the stage for the encore. I thought he sounded dreadful during the soundcheck, but just fine during the show. Maybe just bored by rehearsing?

Introduction of the band... In a word, none. No "America's band, the Beach Boys", or any type of announcement. The backing band came out & immediately started playing the intro of "DIA", & then the Beach Boys followed. The start of the show was similar to the old days when the band would rattle off 5 or 6 songs without comment. Tonight it was different songs & only four, but they showed up ready to work.

During Dennis' video portion when the band wasn't playing,  I saw Al , who was watching the video same as the audience & had his back turned to us, raise his water bottle in a definite toast to Dennis. A very nice gesture. Mike was somber during both videos. The audio portion wasn't quite as clear as it might have been, but overall, I thought both tributes were done very tastefully.

Overall, I thought it was a terrific show. I envy those of you who are still awaiting your turn & am sorry for those of you who might not get a chance to see our amazing band.  

I was sort of skeptical that the tour was really a good idea. I don't know, I felt like it wouldn't be real, that they wouldn't be the real Beach Boys that I care about on this tour. But now I feel a little better. How was the audience reaction during the show? Was there a lot of response from the crowd?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on April 25, 2012, 01:46:50 AM
So no one taped it eh?

If they'd played the UK first, I'd have had the audio up for you by now.

Just saying ;)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Manchini on April 25, 2012, 01:51:49 AM
Quote
Brian doesn't care to be honest, haha. At intermission somebody yelled his name and he waved dismissively, but everyone ate it up anyway.

Don't understand this. He doesn't care? And yet he's putting everything into it vocally? Please explain.

That was just a quick expression of his demeanor. He obviously cared where it counted, because his vocals were a thrill to me and he was clearly throwing himself into them. I just meant that he didn't care to smile or interact -- which doesn't bother me, but just calling it like I see it. Anyhow it was only in the first set, because he did a 180 after the intermission.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SonoraDick on April 25, 2012, 01:51:57 AM


I was sort of skeptical that the tour was really a good idea. I don't know, I felt like it wouldn't be real, that they wouldn't be the real Beach Boys that I care about on this tour. But now I feel a little better. How was the audience reaction during the show? Was there a lot of response from the crowd?

Mike & Bruce have played Tucson several times in recent years (Brian never) and always get a good turnout. Tonight's crowd, however, was certainly more "into it" with several SO's... the final began as they started "Cal Girls" & continued throughout the rest of the show. Eleven songs with everybody indoors standing, & I suspect the lawn-people, too. There was definitely something special in the air tonight.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Manchini on April 25, 2012, 01:56:43 AM
Does anybody know where Carl and Dennis's vocals came from? It would be awesome if they used previously unreleased concert tapes from the archives.

I'm the wrong person to even be hazarding a guess about this ... partly to me it sounded like the Central Park '71 vocal and it also sounded like the album, so what do I know! And Carl's I was pretty sure was from Knebworth but that may be wrong too ... it's so hard to tell when the instrumental and backing vox are modern and the lead is vintage. Either way, wow, it was a really special touch to the whole show.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 25, 2012, 02:00:59 AM
Mike & Bruce have played Tucson several times in recent years (Brian never)...

*koff* 2009 Fiesta Bowl Invitational show.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Dunderhead on April 25, 2012, 02:09:28 AM
I'm also a little disappointed that they did Kokomo in the encore after Al dismissed the idea during his record store day set.

I would have liked to see a more diverse setlist though. Add Some Music should have been on there for sure. Friends would have been another great choice.

Good To My Baby would have rocked. I'm sure a Love You song like Johnny Carson or Honkin' would have been a great crowd pleaser. Of the more than 40 songs they did only 7 were from the Wild Honey - Holland period. 3 were from Pet Sounds. Good Vibrations and Heroes from the Smile era, that's 12 songs total from the years 1966 to 1977. Barley a quarter of the setlist.

1 song from Party
3 songs from Summer Days
5 songs from Today
5 songs from All Summer Long
3 from Shut Down Vol 2
4 from Little Deuce Coupe
4 from Surfer Girl
2 from SS/SUSA

plus Little Girl I Once Knew, California Dreaming, and Kokomo.

That's 28 songs from before 1966. 66% of the set. 12 from 1966 - 1977, 29% of the set. That's a little out of whack if you ask me...


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Manchini on April 25, 2012, 02:25:18 AM
How involved was Brian? When he wasn't singing lead, did he sing backing vocals with everybody else? Did he play the piano? I know he sat behind it, but did he actually play it on all the songs? Did he leave the stage at all?

He sang backing vox and he was spot on, I could hear him very well. My vantage point was good for watching him play keys. He plodded along but fairly inconsistently. He would stop for a portion of the song and then pick up again. But he played it on nearly every, if not all, songs. It was really cool to see him behind that shiny white baby grand versus a digital keyboard.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Pretty Funky on April 25, 2012, 02:27:25 AM
Brian and walking off early. He does seem to be in some pain when standing at the moment. Take a look at some of the footage at the Dodgers gig and he can not stop moving from foot to foot. In the Grammy interviews he is mainly sitting down.

Age maybe but I hope he is ok.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Shady on April 25, 2012, 02:28:45 AM
Was the show sold out? How was the Attendence


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Dunderhead on April 25, 2012, 02:39:38 AM
Brian and walking off early. He does seem to be in some pain when standing at the moment. Take a look at some of the footage at the Dodgers gig and he can not stop moving from foot to foot. In the Grammy interviews he is mainly sitting down.

Age maybe but I hope he is ok.

Yeah I hope it's just a temporary strain or something. It would really ruin the whole thing if Brian worked himself too hard on this show and got himself seriously sick. I know it must be hard for him to go through all the hassles of touring, I just hope he's able to enjoy it....


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Wylson on April 25, 2012, 02:41:49 AM
Loving all the details, thanks to those keeping us updated
Any word on who sang WIBN or This Whole World?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Cabinessenceking on April 25, 2012, 02:42:29 AM
 :)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Shady on April 25, 2012, 02:43:05 AM
Someone upleaded TWGMTR from the live show on youtube, I like the dancing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

BAN


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 25, 2012, 02:44:18 AM
Brian and walking off early. He does seem to be in some pain when standing at the moment. Take a look at some of the footage at the Dodgers gig and he can not stop moving from foot to foot. In the Grammy interviews he is mainly sitting down.

Age maybe but I hope he is ok.

Brian's had a bad back for some time now. He doesn't make a fuss about it, but it's one reason why he sits a lot.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Lowbacca on April 25, 2012, 02:47:30 AM
ATIT! PLMW! Wow.. video clips, please...  :)

(Just reading about the Denny & Carl videos on stage got me teary-eyed...)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Manchini on April 25, 2012, 02:51:02 AM
 
Was the show sold out? How was the Attendence

Attendance was good. It sold out as far as ticket sales, but a lot of people I talked to bought tix for their friends who ended up bailing, thus there were some empty seats here and there (from what I saw).

Brian sang on "This Whole World." I can't remember who sang "WIBN," that's embarrassing! But I know Mike took the middle section.

I was lucky enough to run into David Marks shortly after the show ended and I got to say how happy I was to see their great performance. That was cool!

Great night. Best show I've ever seen, without a doubt.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 25, 2012, 02:57:20 AM
Very rough setlist analysis:

US charting songs
early classic cuts
deep cuts

Do It Again
Catch A Wave
Don’t Back Down
Surfin' Safari
Surfer Girl
The Little Girl I Once Knew
Wendy
Then I Kissed Her
This Whole World
Why Do Fools Fall In Love
When I Grow Up (To be A Man)
You're So Good To Me
Cottonfields
Be True To Your School
Disney Girls (1957)
Please Let Me Wonder
Don’t Worry, Baby
Little Honda
Little Deuce Coupe
409
Shut Down
I Get Around

[intermission]

Sloop John B
Wouldn’t It Be Nice
Forever
Sail On Sailor
Heroes & Villains
In My Room
All This Is That
God Only Knows
That’s Why God Made the Radio
California Dreamin'
California Girls
Dance, Dance, Dance
All Summer Long
Help Me, Rhonda
Rock And Roll Music
Do You Wanna Dance
Barbara Ann
Surfin’ USA

Encore

Kokomo
Good Vibrations
Fun, Fun, Fun


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Lowbacca on April 25, 2012, 03:02:18 AM
Thanks, Doe. Good job. From that overview it's clear that it's a rather early/mid-60's heavy set. That was to be expected, and it's a comfortable place for the Boys to start out, but I do hope they will incorporate some more classic late 60's / early 70's stuff later on the tour. "All This Is That" is a huge suprise, though.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: The Shift on April 25, 2012, 03:08:10 AM
Someone upleaded TWGMTR from the live show on youtube, I like the dancing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

BAN

Bashtud!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SonoraDick on April 25, 2012, 03:13:01 AM
Mike & Bruce have played Tucson several times in recent years (Brian never)...

*koff* 2009 Fiesta Bowl Invitational show.

Andrew, I see your site lists the 2009 show in Tuscon (the town too tough to spell; US joke). However, the Fiesta Bowl is held in Phoenix, where, perhaps by coincidence, The Phoenician is located. Even though I'm 99.99% sure my original statement about Brian not playing here in Tucson is correct, I guess I'll only politely challenge your koff; not sure how to disprove it. I DO know I'd feel terrible if I missed a BW show in my own town.  :-D 


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SonoraDick on April 25, 2012, 03:20:30 AM
Loving all the details, thanks to those keeping us updated
Any word on who sang WIBN

Al; no trading of verses with Brian.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Manchini on April 25, 2012, 03:23:21 AM
Andrew: "Heroes and Villains" followed "SOS," I forgot to write it down at the time though.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 25, 2012, 03:33:22 AM
Mike & Bruce have played Tucson several times in recent years (Brian never)...

*koff* 2009 Fiesta Bowl Invitational show.

Andrew, I see your site lists the 2009 show in Tuscon (the town too tough to spell; US joke). However, the Fiesta Bowl is held in Phoenix, where, perhaps by coincidence, The Phoenician is located. Even though I'm 99.99% sure my original statement about Brian not playing here in Tucson is correct, I guess I'll only politely challenge your koff; not sure how to disprove it. I DO know I'd feel terrible if I missed a BW show in my own town.  :-D 

Appreciate it when my bad info in corrected. Thanks.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 25, 2012, 03:50:56 AM
So...

1 down, 60 to go (at the last count).

Not a train wreck, as some feared. Everyone seemingly acquitted themselves well, thoughtful and extensive setlist with a few genuine surprises, new single debueted and well-recieved, no-one ran screaming from the stage and even a little frisson of mystery in The Affair Of The Suddenly Absent Bass Player. A fine kick-off.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Lowbacca on April 25, 2012, 03:54:18 AM
[...] even a little frisson of mystery in The Affair Of The Suddenly Absent Bass Player.
Maybe he simply got ill, or something. Jeez, you Beach Boys fans and your mysteries.  ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: rogerlancelot on April 25, 2012, 03:55:06 AM
Who filled in?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on April 25, 2012, 03:55:13 AM
WHERE MY VIDS AT?  ::)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 25, 2012, 03:55:44 AM
Maybe Brett's touring with Taylor, Bob & Jimmy.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 25, 2012, 03:56:18 AM
Who filled in?

Mikey. I know, I never knew he played bass either.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Lowbacca on April 25, 2012, 03:56:50 AM
Maybe Brett's touring with Taylor, Bob & Jimmy.
::) ::)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: hypehat on April 25, 2012, 04:03:51 AM
So that sounds AMAZING!

No UK dates.... bah. Hopefully one of you enterprising lot tapes one of these shows  ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: rogerlancelot on April 25, 2012, 04:08:59 AM
So that sounds AMAZING!

No UK dates.... bah. Hopefully one of you enterprising lot tapes one of these shows  ;D

I don't have anything decent for field recording (as in portability and getting past security) but I do have fabulous seats. I'm just going to go and enjoy myself without having to worry about taping. I've done it at a few concerts a long time ago and I never got good results and wound up missing out on all of the fun instead. Let somebody else do it. I bet you that eventually at least one recording from each of these 60+ concerts will show up and we can do A/B tests on each version of "Barbara Ann" with detailed notes on what distinguishes each version from being unique.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Fro on April 25, 2012, 04:19:50 AM
http://www.azcentral.com/thingstodo/music/articles/2012/04/24/20120424beach-boys-reunion-tour-launch-review-tucson.html

Review of the show from The Republic


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Rob Dean on April 25, 2012, 04:23:31 AM
Maybe Brett's touring with Taylor, Bob & Jimmy.
::) ::)


As I noted some time ago , Brett has been rather busy with Melissa Etheridge , however he was at the Grammy's


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Runaways on April 25, 2012, 04:31:59 AM
i think Brian has to get used to the spectacle of this tour.  And like someone said, brian doesn't really get etiquette, he never has right?  I'm sure he'll be fine.  *please sitll be there june 8th*


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: MaxL on April 25, 2012, 04:40:29 AM
http://www.azcentral.com/thingstodo/music/articles/2012/04/24/20120424beach-boys-reunion-tour-launch-review-tucson.html

Review of the show from The Republic

Article says Dave had no lead vocals but from the info floating it says he sang lead on Wendy and DYWD, think I believe the latter. Glad they played Disney Girls otherwise Bruce really wouldn't have much to do since all his leads have been given away.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: CarlTheVoice on April 25, 2012, 04:51:32 AM
Aaah! The more I hear of this show the more it excites me! But it's so upsetting that the UK will miss out on this. I can't afford to go abroad for just one show so looks like I'll just have to watch this wonderful spectacle on youtube or a DVD.

Please sort it out now!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Lowbacca on April 25, 2012, 04:54:10 AM
Aaah! The more I hear of this show the more it excites me! But it's so upsetting that the UK will miss out on this. I can't afford to go abroad for just one show so looks like I'll just have to watch this wonderful spectacle on youtube or a DVD.

Please sort it out now!
I don't know.. what are the chances of the management still trying to somehow fit in UK dates? Pretty slim, eh?  :-\


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: CarlTheVoice on April 25, 2012, 05:13:37 AM
They just can't miss some of the biggest markets out! I am losing hope but I am keeping everything crossed that something will be done. I'll sort it out if they need me to! I can come up with loads of venues!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Fro on April 25, 2012, 05:57:26 AM
Aaah! The more I hear of this show the more it excites me! But it's so upsetting that the UK will miss out on this. I can't afford to go abroad for just one show so looks like I'll just have to watch this wonderful spectacle on youtube or a DVD.

Please sort it out now!

They'd be idiots not to release a Blu-Ray/DVD of the tour at some point.  I would guess they will set up the cameras at one of the venues where they're doing 2 shows.  Although there's actually no reason not to be recording at least all the audio of everything on the tour.

They just can't miss some of the biggest markets out! I am losing hope but I am keeping everything crossed that something will be done. I'll sort it out if they need me to! I can come up with loads of venues!


I'd be shocked if they don't have several UK shows but it might be an entirely different leg of the tour.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: JohnMill on April 25, 2012, 06:02:53 AM
WHERE MY VIDS AT?  ::)

I hope they don't show up here.  They'll be nuked within hours.

It sounds like a good time was had by all last night.  I'm glad Bruce got to do "Disney Girls"  ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: punkinhead on April 25, 2012, 06:09:30 AM
What's in the merch boooth?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: HeyJude on April 25, 2012, 06:14:00 AM
I come at this more from a pragmatic point of view than a fawning “let’s be thankful for anything” mentality, but that is a surprisingly varied setlist. Only 12 songs from ’66 to ’77? That’s actually really surprising. Yes, it’s weighted towards pre-’66 stuff. But we’ve all seen past Beach Boys setlists, right? Despite some recent years of interesting setlist inclusions, we are all well aware of what a Beach Boys show from, say, the 90’s was like, right? Other than that late ’93 extended set, we often got 90-minute shows with the same 28 songs touching on not much post-Pet Sounds stuff beyond “Kokomo”, “California Dreamin’”, maybe “Summer in Paradise”, and a few other things.

On this tour, we have a Brian-led Beach Boys band doing “All This Is That”? That’s kind of mind-blowing. Hearing Al, Bruce, and Mike sing along with Brian on “This Whole World”?

Again, not trying to gush or over-hype this. But realistically, to start complaining that they didn’t do something from “Love You” or some other random 60’s song that you like, I think this is asking too much. We’ve got a setlist of however many songs, 42 or whatever it is, with a seemingly decent distribution of lead vocals.

I’m pleasantly surprised so far.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: PongHit on April 25, 2012, 06:18:10 AM
disappointed that they did Kokomo in the encore after Al dismissed the idea during his record store day set.

Al meant he wasn't going to do it that day in the record store.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: PongHit on April 25, 2012, 06:18:55 AM
Is Brian's hair brown?

No, that's Al.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Jim McShane on April 25, 2012, 06:22:24 AM
Who filled in?

Mikey. I know, I never knew he played bass either.

He played bass on most of the 'Mints CD cuts, and quite well I might add. He played some guitar with the BW band during his first stint.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: PongHit on April 25, 2012, 06:26:30 AM
What was the song with the spanish line?

Yeah, what was the song with the spanish line?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: GoofyJeff on April 25, 2012, 06:28:32 AM
What was the song with the spanish line?

Yeah, what was the song with the spanish line?
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I'm guessing "I Just Wasn't Made For These Times" which will be rotated into the set as the tour goes on, hopefully along with some other rarities.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: TimmyC on April 25, 2012, 06:29:42 AM
I'd like to hear more about the VIPs - Were all the BBs at the meet and greet? What was it like? What about the photo? Was it an individual photo or group photo and were all 5 BBs in it? How much face time did you get with any or all of them? I assume that you at least were able to shake hands with each? What was soundcheck like? What was in the goodie bag?? Were the VIP hosts friendly??


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: PongHit on April 25, 2012, 06:32:08 AM
Wouldn't it have been great if the 5 BB did a song like "Surfin'" alone, that would've been mindblowing for example.

I kinda expected "Hearts" or "Graduation Day," done in the traditional way — at least for a minute or so, as an intro to something else, maybe.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Stegibo on April 25, 2012, 06:41:12 AM
Just came back from work and still no video, aaaah I wanna see it!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Paul J B on April 25, 2012, 06:47:22 AM
How did the lead vocals sound overall? I've only seen Brian live (5 times) since Carl died so I'm aware it takes him a while to get his vocals warmed up but how about Al and Mike? And how was the whole sound mix in general?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: PongHit on April 25, 2012, 06:48:35 AM
Add Some Music should have been on there for sure. Friends would have been another great choice.

Agree that both of those ^ would work — they'd be crowd-pleasers, even for someone who wasn't familiar with them — I'd say the same about "Cool, Cool Water."


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on April 25, 2012, 07:14:50 AM
How did the lead vocals sound overall? I've only seen Brian live (5 times) since Carl died so I'm aware it takes him a while to get his vocals warmed up but how about Al and Mike? And how was the whole sound mix in general?

It's sounding great to me  ;)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Mikie on April 25, 2012, 07:20:54 AM
Surprised Dave didn't sing "Forever".


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Stegibo on April 25, 2012, 07:27:10 AM
Yeah, Dennis sang it! :p


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: pixletwin on April 25, 2012, 07:30:44 AM
My tickets for July 4th seem so far away. I sure hope they put these conerts out on DVD.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on April 25, 2012, 07:30:57 AM
How did the lead vocals sound overall? I've only seen Brian live (5 times) since Carl died so I'm aware it takes him a while to get his vocals warmed up but how about Al and Mike? And how was the whole sound mix in general?

It's sounding great to me  ;)

How can anyone let this slip by?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Ron on April 25, 2012, 07:42:11 AM
We´re talking about "All this and that". The "columnated ruins'  is in "Surf´s up"

I think Ron was simply using the lyric from "Surf's Up" as a reference for Carl's high vocal which he does in the outro during "All This Is That" as well. 
I realised that after I posted my comment. I apologise. I wasn't trying to be rude or anything to begin with. I knew it was probably just a little slip. Andrew G Doe is right...sometimes a smiley or two comes in handy.  ;D

No you're all right, I can see how it looked screwy.  :)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: 37!ws on April 25, 2012, 07:56:24 AM
All I know is....the Mrs. was pretty excited to show me the posts and setlist and stuff...this is EXACTLY how Beach Boys concerts should have been like all along instead of switching to the all-oldies-plus-"Kokomo"-plus-one-or-two-from-the-latest-album-that-we'll-pretend-don't-exist-next-year format in the '80s...


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on April 25, 2012, 08:00:57 AM
OK, since no one else is biting, Iron Horse-Apples, how are you hearing the show?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: AndrewHickey on April 25, 2012, 08:22:44 AM
It is quite a fantastic song but the Carl parts are going to be tricky.  I understand Mike and Bruce have done it before, I wonder how they handled that beautiful, really, super, "columnated ruins' high falsetto part Carl did towards the end on the original?  I've never heard any of the backup guys sing quite THAT high.  BTW, if anybody's reading this, anybody care to take a stab at what that note actually is?  The "Jaiiii......  guru dev" that he does after the last verse. 

I was actually listening to the Glasgow 2004 Mike/Bruce show throughout the night and on came "All This Is That"...not sure if the line up was the same then as it was before this current tour but whoever did the falsetto (bass player?) did an ok job and hit the notes with no issue:

http://soundcloud.com/justin-sosa/all-this-is-that-glasgow-2004

From memory, in 2004 Chris Farmer (bass player) took the lower Carl part ("two ways have I") while Randell Kirsch and Scott Totten (guitars) doubled each other on the falsetto part, while in 2008 Christian took the part Chris Farmer had been singing previously. Kirsch had the stronger falsetto voice, but Totten was more comfortable on the very high notes. I imagine they'll have done much the same this time with Foskett taking the part Kirsch was singing (they have very similar voices).


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Mikie on April 25, 2012, 08:23:33 AM
How was Mike's voice?  Did he sound thin, like in the Do It Again video?  Wonder if his voice will hold up during the tour.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Stegibo on April 25, 2012, 08:28:21 AM
Usually his voice gets better while touring. ;)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Mikie on April 25, 2012, 08:36:35 AM
Well, from what I saw in the video and a recent interview, he's not off to a good start.  He didn't sound so good.  Like he was sick.  Hope it's temporary.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: 37!ws on April 25, 2012, 08:41:37 AM
His SPEAKING VOICE sounds terrible in the promo video. :(  Seriously, it made my throat uncomfortable. I certainly hope it was just a bad day for Mike. (And for me to say something nice about Mike...wow!  :)  )


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Ed Roach on April 25, 2012, 08:42:40 AM
Surprised Dave didn't sing "Forever".
Yeah, Dennis sang it! :p

Dying to hear what anyone who saw the video thinks.  John Anderson, (who is directing the PBS show), directed the concert videos.  He sent me several different edits along the way, while I was sending him photos, but the final edit, the one everyone is getting to see, just totally blew me away...

Was so glad to read of Al's reaction in an earlier post.  I wondered if The Boys had seen/signed off on it:

"During Dennis' video portion when the band wasn't playing,  I saw Al , who was watching the video same as the audience & had his back turned to us, raise his water bottle in a definite toast to Dennis. A very nice gesture. Mike was somber during both videos. The audio portion wasn't quite as clear as it might have been, but overall, I thought both tributes were done very tastefully."



Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: GoofyJeff on April 25, 2012, 08:50:21 AM
I pray to the God that made the radio, that we get a full concert DVD/Blu-Ray of this tour...


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: ontor pertawst on April 25, 2012, 08:56:47 AM
We'll probably get an expanded PBS special with songs interrupted by dreary talking heads and the usual roster of Famous People Saying They Like Things We Know They Like Because Most Everybody Likes Them.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: hypehat on April 25, 2012, 09:06:40 AM
OK, since no one else is biting, Iron Horse-Apples, how are you hearing the show?

Well, it's not on DIME. So I can only guess I am out of the loop on how to find bootlegs or IHA is playing with words  ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: pixletwin on April 25, 2012, 09:29:30 AM
I pray to the God that made the radio, that we get a full concert DVD/Blu-Ray of this tour...

Definitely agree with this.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Lowbacca on April 25, 2012, 09:36:07 AM
Somebody at the Tucson gig spotted any cameras / recording devices near the stage (not belonging to people in the audience)? Or maybe they are planning on recording a specific gig in some prestigious venue later on the tour, when everything is smoothed out and everybody is comfortable.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: Justin on April 25, 2012, 09:39:41 AM
It is quite a fantastic song but the Carl parts are going to be tricky.  I understand Mike and Bruce have done it before, I wonder how they handled that beautiful, really, super, "columnated ruins' high falsetto part Carl did towards the end on the original?  I've never heard any of the backup guys sing quite THAT high.  BTW, if anybody's reading this, anybody care to take a stab at what that note actually is?  The "Jaiiii......  guru dev" that he does after the last verse. 

I was actually listening to the Glasgow 2004 Mike/Bruce show throughout the night and on came "All This Is That"...not sure if the line up was the same then as it was before this current tour but whoever did the falsetto (bass player?) did an ok job and hit the notes with no issue:

http://soundcloud.com/justin-sosa/all-this-is-that-glasgow-2004

From memory, in 2004 Chris Farmer (bass player) took the lower Carl part ("two ways have I") while Randell Kirsch and Scott Totten (guitars) doubled each other on the falsetto part, while in 2008 Christian took the part Chris Farmer had been singing previously. Kirsch had the stronger falsetto voice, but Totten was more comfortable on the very high notes. I imagine they'll have done much the same this time with Foskett taking the part Kirsch was singing (they have very similar voices).

Thanks for the rundown!  With Jeff taking the high parts on this tour...I have no doubt that they'll be able to pull it off.  So looking forward to this song.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Mikie on April 25, 2012, 09:44:17 AM
I thought Matt Jardine did an outstanding job on "All This Is That" in 1993. He seemed to hit those high notes effortlessly. And of course Carl was superb.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Justin on April 25, 2012, 09:48:01 AM
He absolutely did nail it.  Yet another reason why Matt should have been included on the tour....but I believe I read somewhere on the board that his falsetto hasn't really held up since 1993?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SonoraDick on April 25, 2012, 09:54:03 AM
I'd like to hear more about the VIPs - Were all the BBs at the meet and greet? What was it like? What about the photo? Was it an individual photo or group photo and were all 5 BBs in it? How much face time did you get with any or all of them? I assume that you at least were able to shake hands with each? What was soundcheck like? What was in the goodie bag?? Were the VIP hosts friendly??

Soundcheck was first. Due to some screwup (VIP Nation blamed the BB for starting early) nobody from security was there to escort us into the amphitheatre, which was supposedly a site requirement. For nearly 30 minutes, we could clearly hear but not see the BB, although we could see the video screen, which was operating. They rehearsed the tributes as well as several other songs during this time. When we could go in, we were seated in the very back. Scott Totten in charge. Among other things, he stated they were going to shorten the ending of "All Summer Long" to just two "we've been having fun..." & then go directly into "Rhonda". They tried this two or three times without pleasing him (once, Al was talking with Jeff when he should have started "Rhonda", and they messed it up in the show, too. Never would have known, however, if we hadn't attended the soundcheck. Even though we missed some, we still got to sit in for about an hour. Like having your own nearly-private BB concert! Highly recommended if you can do it!

The m & g was also a mixed-bag. They brought out some stools for the BB use, & then, one by one, we filed in for a pic with the five of them. David wasn't there at the start for this (just remembered, he also missed more of the soundcheck than we did- I was beginning to worry maybe he was sick or something, but he did come in about ten minutes after we did). I think Al also wasn't out there right away for photos as well. Now, our emailed instructions were NO AUTOGRAPHS due to time constraints, so some people didn't bring anything to sign. It got confusing here. As we lined up, the VIP leader announced that if we had brought something of "value" we wanted signed (after, in effect, telling us five days before
to NOT bring anything) to go to the end of the line... the strong hint being if we had previously given the BB lots of money OR had some but not all signatures & wanted to try to complete a signed item, we could leave it with VIP and collect it later, before the show. They refused to sign the poster included with our package, which would have been the perfect item. Just in case, I had brought the cd cover from "Ten Years Of Harmony" previously signed by Mike, Al & Bruce. The photo process was quick... bang bang, you're done, NEXT. Any interaction was pretty much due to the customer, although at least in my case, David welcomed me with a smile & handshake (I'm sure others as well; that smile was just permanently on his face all night long; GREAT to see him enjoying himself), and I made sure to tell Al I enjoyed his cd party a few weeks ago & he thanked me for coming, also with a smile. He is, after all, the gentleman from Monterey. Can't even remember if I shook hands with Bruce or not. Mike & Brian were seated in front, & Mike turned to me and said "Nice shirt"... not one of their tees but rather a BB shirt given to me as a gift, probably from ebay; never seen another like it.
Needless to say, I was thrilled he noticed and more so for his comment. During the whole photo process, however, Brian was not "Doin' Time On Planet Earth". He just sat there with his blank stare which everybody knew meant "get me outta here". I believe I tapped him on his shoulder & said "Brian, it's a honor" (I wanted to make sure I said something original; yeah, right) but got no reaction from him. Picture taken, NEXT, see you again if you pony up again.

The end of the story... when I retrieved my cd cover before the show, Al & Mike had signed it again, Bruce had originally signed it on the cover & may have noticed so he did not sign it again, & neither Brian nor Dave signed anyplace. They, of course, were the only two I wanted. We were told Brian didn't sign anything but I know that wasn't true because I did see items he signed; the owners were very happy. A gal who was unfortunately not aware that perhaps "Wouldn't It Be Nice... My Own Story" was not the best possible choice for an autograph was quite disturbed when her copy was returned in exactly the same form as presented.  

The "goodies" package... a rather bland white tee with the BB C50 in brown (the shirts for purchase were much better looking, about $35), a flimsy black tote with the C50 with horse in color, & a laminated souvenir ticket. Plan on spending some extra $$$ to take home something you'll value.      


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: HeyJude on April 25, 2012, 10:15:07 AM
(http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/media/images/medium2/20120425114514854.jpg)http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/media/images/medium2/20120425114514854.jpg

Just wanted to mention to AGD that it appears Al is playing a Strat on the tour!  :lol


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Lowbacca on April 25, 2012, 10:16:45 AM
So.. nobody at the Tucson show recorded anything to put on YouTube? Where are the videos, goddamnit...  :-[


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: endofposts on April 25, 2012, 10:22:05 AM
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/beach-boys-kick-off-50th-anniversary-tour-in-tucson-20120425


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SonoraDick on April 25, 2012, 10:22:43 AM
How was Mike's voice?  Did he sound thin, like in the Do It Again video?  Wonder if his voice will hold up during the tour.

Mikie, I was very pleased with Mike's voice last night. No longer powerful, but still the strongest  I've heard him in five years. Maybe the layoff has helped him & he'll weaken over time. Not all all nasally, either... he sounded like, well, he's about 70. None of the hoarseness that seems to have plagued him in recent times. He still has that distinct sound you'd recognize from a mile away, if he could project that far.

On another "note", let me say that, in my opinion, he's still a great showman. Rather than the physical movements of the past, he's now limited to his gestures, which, granted, can sometimes be annoying, and his eye contact/expressions.
I'm sure he's happy as a clam to be back in this position but there wasn't a hint of boasting last night... No "I sing the lead on ..." (I think that was just in jest, anyway); in fact, very little discussion. But I think he's still great fun to watch, even if he can't leap onto the piano for the encore any longer.



Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: GoofyJeff on April 25, 2012, 10:31:18 AM
I've just spent the last two hours (more or less) listening to my newest iTunes playlist, based on last night's setlist (yes, including TWGMTR thanks to a YouTube MP3 encoder, which I'll replace with the official MP3 from Amazon tomorrow... and the redone "Do It Again") and I must say, it is a SOLID set.  Great introduction for new fans, like my bro's gf.

Now if we could only get recordings of these concerts to tide me over until Summerfest...


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Aegir on April 25, 2012, 10:32:05 AM
Did Mike do those bass vocals in H&V? "duh heroes, duh heroes, duh heroes and villains" Did he do the Papa Ooom Mow Mow vocals during Barbara Ann?

DID BRIAN PLAY BASS?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SonoraDick on April 25, 2012, 10:36:19 AM
So.. nobody at the Tucson show recorded anything to put on YouTube? Where are the videos, goshdarnit...  :-[

I imagine you might see some crummy iPhone video shot from way back, but no cameras were allowed... I talked with a couple of people who had to return to their car to leave theirs. Must have been a Capitol decision because the venue alllows pocket cameras. Those who were observed using their phones got a light shined on them to get their attention & then a wave from security to knock it off, but nothing confiscated that I saw. I did sneak my pocket camera in, but never took it out until "FFF" and even then only shot stills, with the hope of getting a good shot of as many in the band as I could rather than sound for one song. I did video the entire soundcheck performance of "TWGMTR" but I suspect it won't be very good... from way in the back. Haven't checked it yet.  


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Lowbacca on April 25, 2012, 10:38:35 AM
DID BRIAN PLAY BASS?
No.

@RS link: nice and fair review.  :)


@SonoraDick: Okay, thanks anyway.  :) Some more photos would be nice, though. From any source.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SonoraDick on April 25, 2012, 10:41:52 AM
Did Mike do those bass vocals in H&V? "duh heroes, duh heroes, duh heroes and villains" Did he do the Papa Ooom Mow Mow vocals during Barbara Ann?

DID BRIAN PLAY BASS?

1) I'm quite sure no... but Brian very clearly sang "bicycle rider, just see what you done"
2) & 3)  No


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Justin on April 25, 2012, 10:45:43 AM
Thanks for the show and meet and greet reviews, SonoraDick.  That's weird that they're sending mixed signals about the autographs.  Question, regarding the photo with the band...do they just snap the picture as you walk up and greet the guys or is there an opportunity to say hello and then all pose for the picture?   I ask becauase on the VIP nation FB page photo section of other meet and greets it appears that many fans seemed unaware of their photo being taken and have pictures of them talking with the artist and even hugging the artist (back towards the camera) so it made me think just how "prepared" the fans were when they walked up to the artist.  Any info on that would be great!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: TimmyC on April 25, 2012, 10:48:14 AM
SonoroDick - thanks so much for taking the time to answer my questions about the VIP/soundcheck/meet and greet. Have to say that I'm quite deflated after reading your post. I kinda have a lump in my throat about the money I spent on the VIP upgrades for the Mohegan Sun show on May12. Not sure it was worth it. I guess I kind of feel like a sucker. I realize they're old, but if it's just a cattle call where you're lucky if just one or two of them even acknowledge your presence, I don't know... sounds like a rip off.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SonoraDick on April 25, 2012, 10:49:40 AM
Somebody at the Tucson gig spotted any cameras / recording devices near the stage (not belonging to people in the audience)? Or maybe they are planning on recording a specific gig in some prestigious venue later on the tour, when everything is smoothed out and everybody is comfortable.

Lowbacca, we were advised by a poster upon entering that the show was being professionally recorded. We were in the front row & there must have been half a dozen video/still photographers in front of the stage (at least one was on the stage) at all times. Bet we see some video at least on the PBS special.

I think they picked a good night. The group was ON!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SG7 on April 25, 2012, 10:50:05 AM
You didn't get to see any of the touring band either? Kind of disappointed to hear that.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on April 25, 2012, 10:52:31 AM
Just curious - having experienced it, was the meet-and-greet worth it? It sounds like the soundcheck access was a nice premium though the logistics got a bit messed up, but the m+g wasn't as good.

Thanks for the reviews and firsthand reports, much appreciated!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Wrightfan on April 25, 2012, 10:54:09 AM
Kokomo is up. It's the whole performance but shot VERY far away.

It's a cool stripped down arrangement but the guy filming is singing louder than the band  :lol


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Paulos on April 25, 2012, 10:58:24 AM
After seeing the setlist I have had no choice but to go straight to ticketmaster to buy tickets for the Berlin gig, it may mean flying 600 miles but I don't care, it's going to be worth it, see you in Berlin guys!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Lowbacca on April 25, 2012, 11:00:23 AM
After seeing the setlist I have had no choice but to go straight to ticketmaster to buy tickets for the Berlin gig, it may mean flying 600 miles but I don't care, it's going to be worth it, see you in Berlin guys!
Yeah man, see ya there.  :)

=> http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,12430.0.html (originally a thread just for the Berlin gig which I am attending)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SonoraDick on April 25, 2012, 11:01:55 AM
Thanks for the show and meet and greet reviews, SonoraDick.  That's weird that they're sending mixed signals about the autographs.  Question, regarding the photo with the band...do they just snap the picture as you walk up and greet the guys or is there an opportunity to say hello and then all pose for the picture?   I ask becauase on the VIP nation FB page photo section of other meet and greets it appears that many fans seemed unaware of their photo being taken and have pictures of them talking with the artist and even hugging the artist (back towards the camera) so it made me think just how "prepared" the fans were when they walked up to the artist.  Any info on that would be great!

Justin, The photo was shot by our VIP "host, who was a nice guy. I doubt that he took any pics without the subject knowing... but I made sure to get my talking in before since I knew there were others waiting their turn after. This sounds stupid, but I can only say I THINK I remember looking into his camera. Guess I'll see when the photo is available for download. That part all happened pretty fast when it was my turn.

Your event may be different, but I'll bet the "itinerary" you'll receive from VIP is standard... no time for autographs. But, they don't do it in front of you anyway. So, regardless of what it says, bring something you'd like signed with you.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Stegibo on April 25, 2012, 11:03:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywRTZiMu-5E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywRTZiMu-5E)
Mike sounds great on Kokomo, best in years!
Argh, I wanna hear WIBN with Al on lead!!!  :thewilsons


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on April 25, 2012, 11:10:37 AM
H&V is basically the Smiley Smile version, apart from "You're under arrest" before "Children Are Raised", and Brian sings "Bicycle Rider" in last chorus, and it ends with "Bridge To Indians"

So the classic BB version, but with a little tip of the hat to more recent versions


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SonoraDick on April 25, 2012, 11:15:41 AM
SonoroDick - thanks so much for taking the time to answer my questions about the VIP/soundcheck/meet and greet. Have to say that I'm quite deflated after reading your post. I kinda have a lump in my throat about the money I spent on the VIP upgrades for the Mohegan Sun show on May12. Not sure it was worth it. I guess I kind of feel like a sucker. I realize they're old, but if it's just a cattle call where you're lucky if just one or two of them even acknowledge your presence, I don't know... sounds like a rip off.

TimmyC, I'm sorry, sure don't intend to leave the wrong impression. In my opinion, the package was worth EVERY PENNY I paid, if just for the fact I had a great seat for the concert that I couldn't have possibly acquired any other way. A couple of snafus with the VIP portion the first night, but those will work out better later on. For the meet & greet, I'd just suggest being aggressive. Pick the one you'd most like to say something to & tell him what's on your mind, & then try to move on to the next before the photo. Wish I had planned a little better & known a little more beforehand, but I felt the Beach Boys (with the obvious and understandable exception of Brian) were most co-operative. It was quick, but I'm still thrilled today!  


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: southbay on April 25, 2012, 11:17:03 AM
Thanks for the show and meet and greet reviews, SonoraDick.  That's weird that they're sending mixed signals about the autographs.  Question, regarding the photo with the band...do they just snap the picture as you walk up and greet the guys or is there an opportunity to say hello and then all pose for the picture?   I ask becauase on the VIP nation FB page photo section of other meet and greets it appears that many fans seemed unaware of their photo being taken and have pictures of them talking with the artist and even hugging the artist (back towards the camera) so it made me think just how "prepared" the fans were when they walked up to the artist.  Any info on that would be great!

Justin, where you VIP'ing at?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Justin on April 25, 2012, 11:22:06 AM
I'll be at the Santa Barbara and Irvine shows!  You going to any?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: southbay on April 25, 2012, 11:23:37 AM
SonoroDick - thanks so much for taking the time to answer my questions about the VIP/soundcheck/meet and greet. Have to say that I'm quite deflated after reading your post. I kinda have a lump in my throat about the money I spent on the VIP upgrades for the Mohegan Sun show on May12. Not sure it was worth it. I guess I kind of feel like a sucker. I realize they're old, but if it's just a cattle call where you're lucky if just one or two of them even acknowledge your presence, I don't know... sounds like a rip off.

TimmyC, I'm sorry, sure don't intend to leave the wrong impression. In my opinion, the package was worth EVERY PENNY I paid, if just for the fact I had a great seat for the concert that I couldn't have possibly acquired any other way. A couple of snafus with the VIP portion the first night, but those will work out better later on. For the meet & greet, I'd just suggest being aggressive. Pick the one you'd most like to say something to & tell him what's on your mind, & then try to move on to the next before the photo. Wish I had planned a little better & known a little more beforehand, but I felt the Beach Boys (with the obvious and understandable exception of Brian) were most co-operative. It was quick, but I'm still thrilled today!  

Thanks for all of your input.  BTW guys, not that I am an expert by any means at all, but I have met all of the guys with the exception of David.  They all have disticnt personalities and respond to different statements, questions.  Depending on who you want to converse with, Sonora is correct.  Go to that guy with your comment.  Unsurprisingly, a complement about an "obscure" song seems to really work best with them all. EXAMPLE, "gee Mr. Jardine, I really love your vocal on Lady Lynda." (or San Simeon. Or Lookin at Tomorrow.  You get the idea)  Works every time.  They like that you are a real "fan".  I think they apprecaiate you know their catalog, not just Help Me, Rhonda.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: southbay on April 25, 2012, 11:24:49 AM
I'll be at the Santa Barbara and Irvine shows!  You going to any?

Too bad, I'll be Las Vegas and Hollywood Bowl.  Oh well, hope you have a great time.  Thanks for your work last night.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: ivy on April 25, 2012, 11:25:38 AM


TimmyC, I'm sorry, sure don't intend to leave the wrong impression. In my opinion, the package was worth EVERY PENNY I paid, if just for the fact I had a great seat for the concert that I couldn't have possibly acquired any other way. A couple of snafus with the VIP portion the first night, but those will work out better later on. For the meet & greet, I'd just suggest being aggressive. Pick the one you'd most like to say something to & tell him what's on your mind, & then try to move on to the next before the photo. Wish I had planned a little better & known a little more beforehand, but I felt the Beach Boys (with the obvious and understandable exception of Brian) were most co-operative. It was quick, but I'm still thrilled today!  

Thanks for all the info, SonoraDick! Was the backing band around available to be met or was it just the 5 Boys?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Wylson on April 25, 2012, 11:26:06 AM
Mike sounds excellent


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Lowbacca on April 25, 2012, 11:28:12 AM
Brian sounded real good on Surfer Girl, Sail on Sailor, Heroes and Villains and TWGMTR (!). As did the whole outfit. Stellar sound. Good mix (no worries necessary about a "Foskett show").

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m31k8praH61qd9nmlo1_500.jpg)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Justin on April 25, 2012, 11:29:01 AM
Thanks for the show and meet and greet reviews, SonoraDick.  That's weird that they're sending mixed signals about the autographs.  Question, regarding the photo with the band...do they just snap the picture as you walk up and greet the guys or is there an opportunity to say hello and then all pose for the picture?   I ask becauase on the VIP nation FB page photo section of other meet and greets it appears that many fans seemed unaware of their photo being taken and have pictures of them talking with the artist and even hugging the artist (back towards the camera) so it made me think just how "prepared" the fans were when they walked up to the artist.  Any info on that would be great!

Justin, The photo was shot by our VIP "host, who was a nice guy. I doubt that he took any pics without the subject knowing... but I made sure to get my talking in before since I knew there were others waiting their turn after. This sounds stupid, but I can only say I THINK I remember looking into his camera. Guess I'll see when the photo is available for download. That part all happened pretty fast when it was my turn.

Your event may be different, but I'll bet the "itinerary" you'll receive from VIP is standard... no time for autographs. But, they don't do it in front of you anyway. So, regardless of what it says, bring something you'd like signed with you.

Thanks for the info!  I'll try to be mentally prepared for it and your tip about being focused seems to be a good way to go about it.  I definitely don't expect this to be a calm, "let's all hang out with the guys" thing so I'm looking at it as very "in and out and we're done" kind of thing.  So my expectation on this are pretty realistic, I think


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Justin on April 25, 2012, 11:31:43 AM
I'll be at the Santa Barbara and Irvine shows!  You going to any?

Too bad, I'll be Las Vegas and Hollywood Bowl.  Oh well, hope you have a great time.  Thanks for your work last night.

My pleasure---it was really fun!

I wanted to go to the Vegas shows but alas, couldn't swing it.  The VIP ticket definitely comes in handy at the Bowl--otherwise you'd be pretty far off in the back.  Have a great time and also share your reviews and pics!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Rocker on April 25, 2012, 11:37:00 AM
Brian sounded real good on Surfer Girl, Sail on Sailor, Heroes and Villains and TWGMTR (!). As did the whole outfit. Stellar sound. Good mix (no worries necessary about a "Foskett show").



How do you know ?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Stegibo on April 25, 2012, 11:40:00 AM
I wonder too! :D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: hypehat on April 25, 2012, 11:40:24 AM
Brian sounded real good on Surfer Girl, Sail on Sailor, Heroes and Villains and TWGMTR (!). As did the whole outfit. Stellar sound. Good mix (no worries necessary about a "Foskett show").

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m31k8praH61qd9nmlo1_500.jpg)

That is a REALLY COOL PHOTO  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: pixletwin on April 25, 2012, 11:50:01 AM
Please share.  :'(


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: stack-o-tracks on April 25, 2012, 11:54:54 AM
Is Brian wearing Chuck Taylors? That's probably why his back hurts, those things are terrible for your feet.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Mikie on April 25, 2012, 12:04:54 PM
Thanks for the Soundcheck review and for the answer to my question concerning Mike Love's voice, Sonora Dick! Good to know he can still project and that the on-stage bantering has been reduced to a minimum!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: coco1997 on April 25, 2012, 12:07:04 PM
Was Brian singing Carl's part on "Kokomo"?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Jim V. on April 25, 2012, 12:08:39 PM
Was Brian singing Carl's part on "Kokomo"?

Sure sounded like it to me. I think that is kinda awesome if it is.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: anazgnos on April 25, 2012, 12:15:29 PM
Surprised the apparent ABSENCE OF STAMOS hasn't gotten more attention.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Stegibo on April 25, 2012, 12:16:13 PM
Was Brian singing Carl's part on "Kokomo"?
It's Jeff.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SonoraDick on April 25, 2012, 12:16:39 PM
My photos from last night are way too big to post here, and, since I was going to put a few on Facebook anyway, I put up a bunch of them there & made them public so anyone can see them, friend or not. (I'd gladly be friends with any of you!)  
If you're on FB, you can find them under  Richard Shattuck
Warning... some are not that great; would not have posted other than to try to include as many performers as possible. A few are from the soundcheck; the actual concert shots were all taken within 7 minutes.  


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Justin on April 25, 2012, 12:16:43 PM
I dunno judgin from the video it seems like Jeff to me.  I can maybe hear Brian on a few parts (unless my brain think it hears Brian) but I believe it's most Jeff especially the very high parts.  Maybe Brian takes care of the lower sections while Jeff doubles for him on the high section.  The cameras on stage are pointing towards Jeff when that part is sung. I'm going to go with Jeff.  A better quality recording will give us confirmation.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Nicole on April 25, 2012, 12:20:04 PM
Thanks so much to everyone who kept us updated through the whole thing last night and gave reviews today. Tomorrow night it's my turn and I'm more excited than I thought was possible. Can't wait!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SG7 on April 25, 2012, 12:21:24 PM
Great shots!!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: anazgnos on April 25, 2012, 12:26:24 PM
Just out of curiousity, has Brian ever had live autotune on his voice before, and did anybody notice anything weird about Brian's leads from last night?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Wirestone on April 25, 2012, 12:29:33 PM
Just out of curiousity, has Brian ever had live autotune on his voice before, and did anybody notice anything weird about Brian's leads from last night?

As to the first question, not that I ever heard over seeing him multiple times from 2000 to 2009.

As to the second, I'd have to hear it (ahem) to say.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Rocker on April 25, 2012, 12:32:20 PM
My photos from last night are way too big to post here, and, since I was going to put a few on Facebook anyway, I put up a bunch of them there & made them public so anyone can see them, friend or not. (I'd gladly be friends with any of you!)  
If you're on FB, you can find them under  Richard Shattuck
Warning... some are not that great; would not have posted other than to try to include as many performers as possible. A few are from the soundcheck; the actual concert shots were all taken within 7 minutes.  


Thanks for the pictures !!



I must say, Mike and Bruce should settle on blue jeans or something like that. Those pants don't fit well with the shirts. The other guys looked good


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: TimmyC on April 25, 2012, 12:33:00 PM
yes, thanks again SonoraDick - your comments are really appreciated. Thanks for the time to respond not just to my questions, but others as well. I'm going to try and keep my VIP expectations in check (I still have bad seats - the may 12th show was the first to go on sale - by the time they started offering VIP, you could only get an "upgrade" to your original ticket which means you get everything the VIP package has to offer at other shows except the front row seats part). I'm ridiculously excited about the show, absolutely love TWGMTR, and can't wait for the new album. I think the setlist is great, but I pretty much love EVERYTHING the BBs have done and wish there were more deep cuts. Even super deep cuts like stuff off of SIP (great songs on that) and KTSA (LOVE that album!!!!)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Rocker on April 25, 2012, 12:36:05 PM
BTW Brian really sound sgood on Surfer Girl..... *cough*


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Stegibo on April 25, 2012, 12:38:06 PM
woooooot Rocker! Let me join the group that can say that!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: AndrewHickey on April 25, 2012, 12:38:26 PM
BTW Brian really sound sgood on Surfer Girl..... *cough*

That would certainly be nice to hear, wouldn't it?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on April 25, 2012, 12:39:20 PM
Just in case someone here hasn't yet seen it, Rolling Stone online has this concert headlined under their "Top Stories" section, complete with a positive review, full setlist, and photo. I thought it was a pretty big deal to make headline news like that!

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/beach-boys-kick-off-50th-anniversary-tour-in-tucson-20120425 (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/beach-boys-kick-off-50th-anniversary-tour-in-tucson-20120425)

(http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/story/beach-boys-kick-off-50th-anniversary-tour-in-tucson-20120425/1000x600/main.jpg)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Les Chan on April 25, 2012, 12:39:26 PM
SonoraDick,


I wanna thank you very very very VERY much for all your valuable posts.. The soundcheck and meet and greet post was particular interesting to me.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: AndrewHickey on April 25, 2012, 12:42:49 PM
SonoraDick,


I wanna thank you very very very VERY much for all your valuable posts.. The soundcheck and meet and greet post was particular interesting to me.

Absolutely. That kind of thing is what this board is for, isn't it?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Stegibo on April 25, 2012, 12:49:43 PM
Yeah, it's really much appreciated! Thanks very much, SonoraDick and everyone else providing us with infos/pictures. :)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Wirestone on April 25, 2012, 12:49:53 PM
From Probyn -- he and Mikey are actually sharing bass guitar duties.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: AndrewHickey on April 25, 2012, 12:52:27 PM
From Probyn -- he and Mikey are actually sharing bass guitar duties.

Makes sense -- I believe that's what they did on the later Wondermints albums.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on April 25, 2012, 12:56:59 PM
I gotta say, that's a pretty cool looking stage backdrop in that RS photo: At first it looks like a drive-in movie screen, then looking closer it looks kind of like those 40's/50's Bakelite radios like the one from the new single. Kind of a dual-meaning thing going on there. Very nice.

Cheers to the designer(s), although Brian and his piano look a little too far out of the center-stage area. Maybe he'll be closer at future shows.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Justin on April 25, 2012, 12:59:16 PM
From Probyn -- he and Mikey are actually sharing bass guitar duties.

Let's hope the positive byproduct of that is that it keeps the music fresh as the tour goes on...having a different bass player switch off to does help keep the musicians' energy up.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Stegibo on April 25, 2012, 01:02:22 PM
BTW Brian really sound sgood on Surfer Girl..... *cough*

That would certainly be nice to hear, wouldn't it?
That's true! :)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: southbay on April 25, 2012, 01:17:28 PM
BTW Brian really sound sgood on Surfer Girl..... *cough*

That would certainly be nice to hear, wouldn't it?
That's true! :)

Hey, now, over here guys


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: drbeachboy on April 25, 2012, 01:20:38 PM
SonoraDick,

Great pics on your Facebook page. Thank you for sharing them, as well as your experiences last evening. I can't wait until my turn comes around on May 19th.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SG7 on April 25, 2012, 01:25:35 PM
SonoraDick,

Great pics on your Facebook page. Thank you for sharing them, as well as your experiences last evening. I can't wait until my turn comes around on May 19th.

Will be there too!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: drbeachboy on April 25, 2012, 01:29:14 PM
SonoraDick,

Great pics on your Facebook page. Thank you for sharing them, as well as your experiences last evening. I can't wait until my turn comes around on May 19th.

Will be there too!
Terrific! I haven't seen you in awhile. Let's meet up inside the casino.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: AndrewHickey on April 25, 2012, 01:32:55 PM
They do all sound good, don't they?
Those who are worried about the mix shouldn't be. Foskett is only really audible when there's a prominent falsetto part, and for the most part all you can hear vocally in the mix is the five Beach Boys plus Foskett. This isn't, as I'd expected, the backing band taking all the strain -- it's five elderly men, with their voices not all in great shape, but not hiding or faking that.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SG7 on April 25, 2012, 01:35:25 PM
Yikes! Sorry but it looks like I'm seeing them on the 17th, not the 19th :(! Everybody else is going to not my show (Wrightfan I know you are accounted for. Anyone else who's going say so too!). Guess I got too excited reading this thread. I think we may need another convention sometime. Do people like BBQs?  ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: drbeachboy on April 25, 2012, 01:42:17 PM
I thought about the Bethlehem show, but thought it better to see The Beach Boys at the Shore in Atlantic City. Hey, we can always get a group together for a new album listening party. :)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: AndrewHickey on April 25, 2012, 01:43:57 PM
There's a *lot* of Brian leads, actually -- he does Little Girl I Once Knew as well as the other ones noted. Someone (Jeff or Cowsill or possibly both) has to cover for him on the first middle eight on Sail On Sailor when he completely forgets the words, but the rest of the lead is as good as I've heard him singing that song. (On Sail On Sailor you *can* hear the backing band singing). He's great on Heroes & Villains, too. This is a *really* good show...


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SG7 on April 25, 2012, 01:47:00 PM
I thought about the Bethlehem show, but thought it better to see The Beach Boys at the Shore in Atlantic City. Hey, we can always get a group together for a new album listening party. :)


If I had more funds, I probably would've seen them in AC too. It was a grad present from my mom!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: southbay on April 25, 2012, 01:48:10 PM
There's a *lot* of Brian leads, actually -- he does Little Girl I Once Knew as well as the other ones noted. Someone (Jeff or Cowsill or possibly both) has to cover for him on the first middle eight on Sail On Sailor when he completely forgets the words, but the rest of the lead is as good as I've heard him singing that song. (On Sail On Sailor you *can* hear the backing band singing). He's great on Heroes & Villains, too. This is a *really* good show...
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Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Heysaboda on April 25, 2012, 01:50:16 PM
Hey Justin,

Thanks and kudos for starting up this thread!  It's a great read!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: stack-o-tracks on April 25, 2012, 01:56:02 PM
Hey Justin,

Thanks and kudos for starting up this thread!  It's a great read!


It is a wonderful thread. Almost entirely positive for once.

Also proof that there's no way in hell we're going to be able to use just one thread for all of the shows.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Justin on April 25, 2012, 02:03:36 PM
Hey Justin,

Thanks and kudos for starting up this thread!  It's a great read!


Absolutley my pleasure!  I'm also enjoying reading everyone's posts and reviews...thought it'd be good to get them all in one area rather than having them float around on the board and have it veer off in different directions!   :)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Justin on April 25, 2012, 02:06:29 PM
Hey Justin,

Thanks and kudos for starting up this thread!  It's a great read!


It is a wonderful thread. Almost entirely positive for once.

Also proof that there's no way in hell we're going to be able to use just one thread for all of the shows.

Definitely, stacks.  At this rate, if we kept it to one thread we'd probably be looking at 500+ page thread once this tour is over haha!  I don't even want to think about that.  I shall start the next thread for the second gig later tonight--it might not turn out as high-energy as last night's but at least we can still keep the organization in tact.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Fall Breaks on April 25, 2012, 02:16:56 PM
"Don't Back Down" - - talk about energetic performance!  :o


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: 18thofMay on April 25, 2012, 02:22:49 PM
BTW Brian really sound sgood on Surfer Girl..... *cough*

That would certainly be nice to hear, wouldn't it?
Just awoke from a massive Anzac day to all this great news. How does one hear this ?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Runaways on April 25, 2012, 02:32:59 PM
Where are you guys hearing this???


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on April 25, 2012, 02:41:59 PM
Just out of curiousity, has Brian ever had live autotune on his voice before, and did anybody notice anything weird about Brian's leads from last night?

No, he hasn't used autotune live before based on everything I've seen/heard.

And if he were to start, well, that would suck. Especially if it was obvious.   ::)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 25, 2012, 02:44:49 PM
Where are you guys hearing this???

Was wondering as well...


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: pixletwin on April 25, 2012, 02:45:55 PM
Just out of curiousity, has Brian ever had live autotune on his voice before, and did anybody notice anything weird about Brian's leads from last night?

No, he hasn't used autotune live before based on everything I've seen/heard.

And if he were to start, well, that would suck. Especially if it was obvious.   ::)

Only TWGMTR sounded like Brian had some crazy live autotune on his voice.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on April 25, 2012, 02:46:54 PM
Just out of curiousity, has Brian ever had live autotune on his voice before, and did anybody notice anything weird about Brian's leads from last night?

No, he hasn't used autotune live before based on everything I've seen/heard.

And if he were to start, well, that would suck. Especially if it was obvious.   ::)

Only TWGMTR sounded like Brian had some crazy live autotune on his voice.

Probably just Jeff... lol


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: stack-o-tracks on April 25, 2012, 02:56:32 PM
Where are you guys hearing this???

Was wondering as well...

Me too.... Hopefully not torrent sites because I still haven't gotten all that set up on my new-ish machine.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: anazgnos on April 25, 2012, 03:04:17 PM
Just out of curiousity, has Brian ever had live autotune on his voice before, and did anybody notice anything weird about Brian's leads from last night?

No, he hasn't used autotune live before based on everything I've seen/heard.

And if he were to start, well, that would suck. Especially if it was obvious.   ::)

Only TWGMTR sounded like Brian had some crazy live autotune on his voice.

Listen to the ending of Heroes & Villains, "I'm fit with the stuff to ride in the rough".  It sounds like some badly tracking vocoder jittering back & forth between two notes.  I really would like to be wrong, and otherwise I'm hoping it was just an opening night security blanket that all concerned will quickly realize is unnecessary, since Brian really sounds pretty great as far as his enthusiasm level & general presence.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Craig Boyd on April 25, 2012, 03:23:02 PM
Where are you guys hearing this?? Let me in ha!  ;)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: JohnMill on April 25, 2012, 03:24:01 PM
Where are you guys hearing this?? Let me in ha!  ;)

Me too come on I can't wait another month till my show!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Domino on April 25, 2012, 03:33:29 PM
Just out of curiousity, has Brian ever had live autotune on his voice before, and did anybody notice anything weird about Brian's leads from last night?

No, he hasn't used autotune live before based on everything I've seen/heard.

And if he were to start, well, that would suck. Especially if it was obvious.   ::)

Only TWGMTR sounded like Brian had some crazy live autotune on his voice.

Listen to the ending of Heroes & Villains, "I'm fit with the stuff to ride in the rough".  It sounds like some badly tracking vocoder jittering back & forth between two notes.

Yeah, that was horrible.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Shady on April 25, 2012, 03:34:15 PM
Where are you guys hearing this?? Let me in ha!  ;)

This


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: adavidw on April 25, 2012, 03:35:17 PM
Mike & Bruce have played Tucson several times in recent years (Brian never)...

*koff* 2009 Fiesta Bowl Invitational show.

Andrew, I see your site lists the 2009 show in Tuscon (the town too tough to spell; US joke). However, the Fiesta Bowl is held in Phoenix, where, perhaps by coincidence, The Phoenician is located. Even though I'm 99.99% sure my original statement about Brian not playing here in Tucson is correct, I guess I'll only politely challenge your koff; not sure how to disprove it. I DO know I'd feel terrible if I missed a BW show in my own town.  :-D 

I'm just going to get a bit pedantic for a moment. The Phoenician, where Brian played, is actually in Scottsdale. And, the Fiesta Bowl is played at the University of Phoenix Stadium, which, despite its name, is actually in Glendale. For most of its life, the Fiesta Bowl was played at ASU Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe.

This is all in the Phoenix area, of course, and to most of us from Tucson, we don't care about the fine points. Anything in that God-forsaken concrete sprawl up north is all "Phoenix" to us.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: adavidw on April 25, 2012, 03:39:15 PM
(http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/media/images/medium2/20120425114514854.jpg)http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/media/images/medium2/20120425114514854.jpg

Just wanted to mention to AGD that it appears Al is playing a Strat on the tour!  :lol

Al was playing a blue Jaguar at the beginning of the show and many times throughout, but switched to the white Strat frequently. David Marks stayed on his blue Jaguar the entire time. Scott and Jeff switched probably every song, so I lost count of who was playing what there.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on April 25, 2012, 03:40:56 PM
Where are you guys hearing this?? Let me in ha!  ;)

This


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: adavidw on April 25, 2012, 03:42:47 PM
There's a *lot* of Brian leads, actually -- he does Little Girl I Once Knew as well as the other ones noted. Someone (Jeff or Cowsill or possibly both) has to cover for him on the first middle eight on Sail On Sailor when he completely forgets the words, but the rest of the lead is as good as I've heard him singing that song. (On Sail On Sailor you *can* hear the backing band singing). He's great on Heroes & Villains, too. This is a *really* good show...

Was John Cowsill singing? I had a great seat but still couldn't tell. There was no boom mike or anything, so he would have had to have a headset, but I couldn't see anything like that. I suppose with a 10 piece backing band, just about all of whom were singing, his voice isn't strictly needed.

As an aside, I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone hit the drums harder than John Cowsill at last night's show.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: adavidw on April 25, 2012, 03:43:47 PM
From Probyn -- he and Mikey are actually sharing bass guitar duties.

They may be sharing, but from what I could see at last night's show, it's 90% Mikey on bass, 10% Probyn.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Wirestone on April 25, 2012, 03:44:35 PM
Just out of curiousity, has Brian ever had live autotune on his voice before, and did anybody notice anything weird about Brian's leads from last night?

No, he hasn't used autotune live before based on everything I've seen/heard.

And if he were to start, well, that would suck. Especially if it was obvious.   ::)

Only TWGMTR sounded like Brian had some crazy live autotune on his voice.

Listen to the ending of Heroes & Villains, "I'm fit with the stuff to ride in the rough".  It sounds like some badly tracking vocoder jittering back & forth between two notes.  I really would like to be wrong, and otherwise I'm hoping it was just an opening night security blanket that all concerned will quickly realize is unnecessary, since Brian really sounds pretty great as far as his enthusiasm level & general presence.

Joe Thomas tried it when he worked with Brian last -- hooking up this weird reverb unit to Brian's voice when he played on Steve Dahl's radio show. This is the one thing I don't like about BW working with the Boys -- I suspect they're still a little embarrassed by him. His own group has never been afraid to push him up in the mix, warts and all.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Tord on April 25, 2012, 03:46:55 PM
I'd love to hear something from this show!
I thought there would be plenty of Youtube videos from the first reunion concert, but so far only Kokomo has been uploaded (and it's already gone).


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: ontor pertawst on April 25, 2012, 03:47:34 PM
Hell, hook him up to some pitch shifters and have him howl a LOVE YOU song ala The Residents, fine with me.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: amonomous on April 25, 2012, 03:49:42 PM
BTW Brian really sound sgood on Surfer Girl..... *cough*

I'll be at the show this Sunday in Raleigh, NC, really enjoying this thread and the new single.. I'm torn though between the "I hope so and so is still there by this time...." type comments and the "they get better/more comfortable & incorporate more deep cuts (seeing IJWMFTT live would be amazing for instance) as they go along"  ones.. :/ I'm just happy to see all five of them together and as long as they don't rotate "Please Let Me Wonder" out of the set I'll be more than satisfied with what I've seen so far setlist-wise. I was too late to see the Kokomo video (it's gone) but I'm definitely Gettin' Hungry (couldn't resist) for more than just still pics (though the pics and updates have been *GREAT*) Thank you to everyone who has contributed, I'm really let down by the no camera policy and hope I can still get some shots but anything I am able to get I will cherish and share afterward.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: anazgnos on April 25, 2012, 03:50:07 PM
Just out of curiousity, has Brian ever had live autotune on his voice before, and did anybody notice anything weird about Brian's leads from last night?

No, he hasn't used autotune live before based on everything I've seen/heard.

And if he were to start, well, that would suck. Especially if it was obvious.   ::)

Only TWGMTR sounded like Brian had some crazy live autotune on his voice.

Listen to the ending of Heroes & Villains, "I'm fit with the stuff to ride in the rough".  It sounds like some badly tracking vocoder jittering back & forth between two notes.  I really would like to be wrong, and otherwise I'm hoping it was just an opening night security blanket that all concerned will quickly realize is unnecessary, since Brian really sounds pretty great as far as his enthusiasm level & general presence.

Joe Thomas tried it when he worked with Brian last -- hooking up this weird reverb unit to Brian's voice when he played on Steve Dahl's radio show. This is the one thing I don't like about BW working with the broader group -- I suspect they're still a little embarrassed by him. His own group has never been afraid to push him up in the mix, warts and all.

That's really interesting.  It is like hearing him sing through an flanger pedal or something, it's totally unsubtle and doesn't suit the music at all. Somebody in the booth must realize it's not making him sound "better".  Part of me was wondering if Brian actually wants it, like he's gotten so used to using it in the studio that he expects it all the time now.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: AndrewHickey on April 25, 2012, 03:51:05 PM
Was John Cowsill singing? I had a great seat but still couldn't tell. There was no boom mike or anything, so he would have had to have a headset, but I couldn't see anything like that. I suppose with a 10 piece backing band, just about all of whom were singing, his voice isn't strictly needed.

As an aside, I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone hit the drums harder than John Cowsill at last night's show.

I can hear him (I think) on the tag of Sail On Sailor. I'd be amazed if he wasn't singing, as he's probably the single best singer on the stage. He does usually use a headset, and sometimes it's quite hard to see because his hair covers most of it.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Wirestone on April 25, 2012, 03:53:37 PM
Part of me was wondering if Brian actually wants it, like he's gotten so used to using it in the studio that he expects it all the time now.

I kinda doubt it. He's never used pitch correction in his live solo shows. And believe me, some of them could have used it!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: HeyJude on April 25, 2012, 04:20:11 PM
Add me to the list of people who would really love to hear recordings of the show to see what it sounds like!

As for live autotune, it does exist and some bands do use it. Every Brian gig I've been to has had no evident use of autotune. Wouldn't surprise me if they have a really lush, busy mix on this tour if they applied a bit of autotune to Brian here and there.



Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: stack-o-tracks on April 25, 2012, 04:22:39 PM
Definitely something not entirely natural going on with Brian's voice every once in a while. Sounds like T-Pain. (Google him if you don't know who that is. Or don't.  ;D)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SamMcK on April 25, 2012, 04:22:59 PM
I've read the whole topic! I have to say i'm very happy for you guys who get to go and it makes me hope they can make it over to the UK at some point. I would really love to hear some footage of the concert though. Seriously no YouTube footage? ??? How have some of you already heard parts of it?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Jim V. on April 25, 2012, 04:25:19 PM
I would also be very interested in where everybody are hearing these recordings from last night. Anybody wanna hook a brotha up?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: The Real Barnyard on April 25, 2012, 04:27:17 PM
I'd like to hear the last night show too. Any info?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Wirestone on April 25, 2012, 04:27:43 PM
In reference to absolutely nothing, the private message feature is very useful. Others are watching.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SonoraDick on April 25, 2012, 04:29:52 PM
Not video, but a few good photos.

http://azstarnet.com/entertainment/music/photos-the-beach-boys/collection_565ea5ac-8e91-11e1-9f6c-0019bb2963f4.html?mode=image&photo=1


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: adavidw on April 25, 2012, 04:30:21 PM
There's been a few comments here as to whether the venue was sold out or how full it was, so I thought I'd share my experiences from my viewpoint:


All the available seated tickets were actually sold out... for a while. The problem is that the theatre or the band or someone actually held back many many seats. I bought my tickets the second they went on sale, and only managed row FF, but I could see on the venue's web site that most of the seats in the front sections were marked as "Not Available" rather than being marked as "Sold".

I suspected these seats might become available later, so I checked periodically. Sure enough, some better seats became available about two weeks before showtime, but many more were still being held. The night before showtime, suddenly about 250 really great seats (some as good as 2nd or 3rd row) suddenly became available. Several of these were purchased over the night or the next day, but that was just too many to unload that quickly to a crowd that had already bought their tickets.

When I got to the venue at 45 minutes before showtime, there were still over 100 seats left unsold, all of which were better than the ones I bought at 10:01 the morning the day they went on sale. I walked up to the box office ready to pitch a fit, but they were extremely cool about refunding my original tickets and selling me a pair in the 5th row.

Even as of showtime, the same 100 tickets seemed to be still available when checking from my phone, and they were all clumped together in prime locations, too, which I'm sure looked bad to the band and the fans, especially to those fans like me who bought tickets right away and got crappy seats.

So, whether it was the band or the venue or the promoter responsible for holding so many back, they could have managed it better, either by holding less back, or returning them sooner, or at least sending out some sort of email/twitter/facebook blast to let people know when primo seats suddenly became available for sale the day of show.


For those of you going to future Beach Boys shows (or any concerts): If you're not happy with your tickets, or you didn't get tickets yet because you couldn't get good seats, check with the box office or the venue website frequently in the days before the show. It's not uncommon to have good seats get released like this. I've never seen quite this many get released and go unsold, but I've occasionally managed to get really great seats to a show that I wouldn't have gone to otherwise because I wouldn't have been able to get good seats otherwise.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Justin on April 25, 2012, 04:36:06 PM
Not video, but a few good photos.

http://azstarnet.com/entertainment/music/photos-the-beach-boys/collection_565ea5ac-8e91-11e1-9f6c-0019bb2963f4.html?mode=image&photo=1

Thanks Sonora for the heads up.

here are the pics:

(http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/azstarnet.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/4/43/4437e0a0-8e91-11e1-8f94-0019bb2963f4/4f97810c5c4a4.image.jpg)
(http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/azstarnet.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/4/54/45409dc0-8e91-11e1-ad02-0019bb2963f4/4f97810e1b818.image.jpg)
(http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/azstarnet.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/4/6a/46a03e8c-8e91-11e1-9b40-0019bb2963f4/4f97811066137.image.jpg)
(http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/azstarnet.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/4/75/4756997a-8e91-11e1-8cae-0019bb2963f4/4f97811198441.image.jpg)
(http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/azstarnet.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/4/9a/49a1e266-8e91-11e1-aa10-0019bb2963f4/4f97811570c7b.image.jpg)
(http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/azstarnet.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/4/a6/4a636210-8e91-11e1-9517-0019bb2963f4/4f978116b2454.image.jpg)
(http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/azstarnet.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/4/c5/4c505a6a-8e91-11e1-a61b-0019bb2963f4/4f978119eaffe.image.jpg)
(http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/azstarnet.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/4/d1/4d19389a-8e91-11e1-ab55-0019bb2963f4/4f97811b43279.image.jpg)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Eireannach on April 25, 2012, 04:37:39 PM
I've never used the PM feature here.  Anyone want to send me a "test"?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SonoraDick on April 25, 2012, 04:42:33 PM
... and the not-quite-so-flattering review from the local daily.

In the print edition, one of the songs performed was listed as "I Wanna Go Home". It was corrected to SJB in this online article, but still makes one wonder how familiar the writer is with the group, if at all. "I Wanna Go Home"? Really??


http://azstarnet.com/entertainment/music/beach-boys-catch-a-nice-wave-even-if-it-takes/article_76276595-2632-5e01-b563-1dc51d27c845.html


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 25, 2012, 05:07:31 PM
... and the not-quite-so-flattering review from the local daily.

In the print edition, one of the songs performed was listed as "I Wanna Go Home". It was corrected to SJB in this online article, but still makes one wonder how familiar the writer is with the group, if at all. "I Wanna Go Home"? Really??


http://azstarnet.com/entertainment/music/beach-boys-catch-a-nice-wave-even-if-it-takes/article_76276595-2632-5e01-b563-1dc51d27c845.html

I love when people don't know a song title and just make sh*t up. ^_^


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: HeyJude on April 25, 2012, 05:25:50 PM
It's sounding like they used Dennis' studio vocal for "Forever", while they used what sounds like the 1980 Knebworth live vocal for Carl on "God Only Knows." Surprised how smoothly it comes off. It's still weird only in that there's a weird brain dissonance going because you recognize both the recorded and live elements very well, and they totally go together perfectly, but they shouldn't exist in that configuration. While Carl didn't sound exactly the same in, say, 1997 as he did in 1980, it was interesting to hear something a bit like what it would have been like had Carl been with us on this tour.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: RickD on April 25, 2012, 05:31:18 PM
Id appreciate if someone could check that my PMs are working please


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 25, 2012, 05:35:59 PM
Surprised this is being passed around through PMs rather than there being 5032 recordings of it on YouTube. The folks in power can shut stuff down on YouTube, true, but there's generally no way to contain the amount of videos going up for a concert, especially one like this.

On that note, consider this a pathetic PM request, too :(


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Runaways on April 25, 2012, 05:36:07 PM
I'd think they must have been pretty good if rolling stone gave them a positive review


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: 18thofMay on April 25, 2012, 05:39:16 PM
To me they sound great..


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: hypehat on April 25, 2012, 05:41:00 PM
Man, if Brian was autotuned (and I would never condone the practice of bootlegging material ever, no sir), that would suck.

Ok, f*** the secrecy bullshit. That auto-tuning sounds absolutely fucking atrocious. What in the f*** were they thinking? Gah.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: NatureShowInStereo on April 25, 2012, 05:50:10 PM
Where are people hearing the new live stuff and why is it being kept such a secret from everyone else? This board and these secrets. Geez. Cruel.  ::)  A message board where nobody can talk 1/4 of the time.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Wirestone on April 25, 2012, 06:01:16 PM
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,3654.0.html


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: egon spengler on April 25, 2012, 06:01:37 PM
ahem, i would like to be let in on all the listening fun. Oh hey guys, I'm being cute and testing the moderators!lease let Yes yes yes, I don't know how to follow the rules!e wonder...


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: 18thofMay on April 25, 2012, 06:07:30 PM
Man, if Brian was autotuned (and I would never condone the practice of bootlegging material ever, no sir), that would suck.

Ok, f*ck the secrecy bullsh*t. That auto-tuning sounds absolutely f*cking atrocious. What in the f*ck were they thinking? Gah.
He is being autotuned on stage?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Wirestone on April 25, 2012, 06:08:19 PM
Man, if Brian was autotuned (and I would never condone the practice of bootlegging material ever, no sir), that would suck.

Ok, f*ck the secrecy bullsh*t. That auto-tuning sounds absolutely f*cking atrocious. What in the f*ck were they thinking? Gah.
He is being autotuned on stage?

Sounds like it. Lots of folks have been doing it for years.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: anazgnos on April 25, 2012, 06:11:47 PM
Robo-Brian 2000, is what it sounds like.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: NatureShowInStereo on April 25, 2012, 06:14:12 PM
There would appear to be a lot of fan-shot live footage (of many shows spanning the band's career) coming from YouTube floating around on the board, though. Those are OK but fan-shot footage of the new tour that we all want to see and hear and a lot of us have tickets for is off limits? Interesting, to say the least.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: hypehat on April 25, 2012, 06:14:22 PM
Man, if Brian was autotuned (and I would never condone the practice of bootlegging material ever, no sir), that would suck.

Ok, f*ck the secrecy bullsh*t. That auto-tuning sounds absolutely f*cking atrocious. What in the f*ck were they thinking? Gah.
He is being autotuned on stage?

Sounds like it. Lots of folks have been doing it for years.

Tis true. Lots of people also can do it competently. Maybe they'll cut it out. I am just honestly stunned they did it here.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Wirestone on April 25, 2012, 06:16:25 PM
Man, if Brian was autotuned (and I would never condone the practice of bootlegging material ever, no sir), that would suck.

Ok, f*ck the secrecy bullsh*t. That auto-tuning sounds absolutely f*cking atrocious. What in the f*ck were they thinking? Gah.
He is being autotuned on stage?

Sounds like it. Lots of folks have been doing it for years.

Tis true. Lots of people also can do it competently. Maybe they'll cut it out. I am just honestly stunned they did it here.

Eh. It's the competent part I care about. If they can do it well and subtly, fine. If not, boot it.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: hypehat on April 25, 2012, 06:17:51 PM
I really hope they do.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Tord on April 25, 2012, 06:23:01 PM
It would be much appreciated if someone would PM me!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: egon spengler on April 25, 2012, 06:24:35 PM
It would be much appreciated if someone would PM me!

ditto.. i've got a long night ahead of me and would love a PM to keep me company!  ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: NatureShowInStereo on April 25, 2012, 06:27:30 PM
I too would appreciate a PM.  ::)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Zander on April 25, 2012, 06:32:24 PM
I'd like a PM if some kind soul could assist...


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: acedecade75 on April 25, 2012, 06:34:17 PM
 I'd love a PM if anyone has anything to share :)  Thanks!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Shady on April 25, 2012, 06:42:58 PM
I'd love a BJ


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 25, 2012, 06:43:49 PM
I'd love a BJ

I'd love a BW, AJ, DM, and ML as well.


(got my PM already)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: dumbangel76 on April 25, 2012, 06:54:46 PM
Would love a PM!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: NatureShowInStereo on April 25, 2012, 06:57:03 PM
The autotune...........

I would take Brian's natural voice, flaws and all, over the robotic, out of tune sounding autotune. It works for whole solid notes, but some parts it's like "Mannnnn.... Do they not hear that?"


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: ontor pertawst on April 25, 2012, 06:58:02 PM
The processing on Heroes & Villains just sounds like a psychedelic effect on purpose. The other songs don't have that. I love this rendition of Heroes, but I sure wish they added the cantina bit and ok, fine an Our Prayer/Gee opening!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: doinnothin on April 25, 2012, 06:58:31 PM
Pretty PM please?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: LetHimRun on April 25, 2012, 07:00:04 PM
I'd love a BJ

I don't think those can be sent through PM. ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 25, 2012, 07:01:32 PM

Tis true. Lots of people also can do it competently. Maybe they'll cut it out. I am just honestly stunned they did it here.

Eh. It's the competent part I care about. If they can do it well and subtly, fine. If not, boot it.

Argh. I enjoy your posts, don't think I'm attacking you, but why even condone it being done subtly? Autotune has absolutely no place in a f*cking live show. None. It's as if they read fan concern over Jeff doubling Brian and thought autotuning him into oblivion would be acceptable as hay, it's still Brian.

I hate to rant about something as great as a Beach Boys reunion tour, but autotune just has no place in live performances, especially by a band like the Beach Boys. At his absolute worst of live performances of the last ten years or so, he's still sounded passable, and it's never been "bad" for an entire performance (that I've seen). This whole "Brian clearly can't sing, we have to ensure that it sounds like he's still as good as he was in '65" sentiment from his camp needs to end already - it's a huge slap in the face to Brian's talents, Brian as a human being, and fans who pay for these tickets and recordings.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: egon spengler on April 25, 2012, 07:01:41 PM
hearing the Boys backing Dennis on Forever is heartbreaking and tremendous. i don't know if the video adds to the experience or takes away from it, but i'm tearing up listening to it on my couch.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on April 25, 2012, 07:02:13 PM
Remember When I PMed you all H&V?

This is my "Owe you one" PLEASE!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: ohthosegirls on April 25, 2012, 07:02:44 PM
PM me please  :angel:


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: LetHimRun on April 25, 2012, 07:07:00 PM

Tis true. Lots of people also can do it competently. Maybe they'll cut it out. I am just honestly stunned they did it here.

Eh. It's the competent part I care about. If they can do it well and subtly, fine. If not, boot it.

Ergh. I enjoy your posts, don't think I'm attacking you, but why even condone it being done subtly? Autotune has absolutely no place in a f*cking live show. None. It's as if they read fan concern over Jeff doubling Brian and thought autotuning him into oblivion would be acceptable as hay, it's still Brian.

I hate to rant about something as great as a Beach Boys reunion tour, but autotune just has no place in live performances, especially by a band like the Beach Boys. At his absolute worst of live performances of the last ten years or so, he's still sounded passable, and it's never been "bad" for an entire performance (that I've seen). This whole "Brian clearly can't sing, we have to ensure that it sounds like he's still as good as he was in '65" sentiment from his camp needs to end already - it's a huge slap in the face to Brian's talents, Brian as a human being, and fans who pay for these tickets and recordings.

Agreed. I'll be going to see them next Wednesday and sure hope something is done with it, as in it is eliminated, or it'll be a shame. Maybe they just tried to see how it sounded during an actual concert. Hopefully they heard it sounded like crap.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Wirestone on April 25, 2012, 07:16:26 PM

Tis true. Lots of people also can do it competently. Maybe they'll cut it out. I am just honestly stunned they did it here.

Eh. It's the competent part I care about. If they can do it well and subtly, fine. If not, boot it.

Argh. I enjoy your posts, don't think I'm attacking you, but why even condone it being done subtly? Autotune has absolutely no place in a f*cking live show. None. It's as if they read fan concern over Jeff doubling Brian and thought autotuning him into oblivion would be acceptable as hay, it's still Brian.

I hate to rant about something as great as a Beach Boys reunion tour, but autotune just has no place in live performances, especially by a band like the Beach Boys. At his absolute worst of live performances of the last ten years or so, he's still sounded passable, and it's never been "bad" for an entire performance (that I've seen). This whole "Brian clearly can't sing, we have to ensure that it sounds like he's still as good as he was in '65" sentiment from his camp needs to end already - it's a huge slap in the face to Brian's talents, Brian as a human being, and fans who pay for these tickets and recordings.

But what can we do?

Really, man, what can we do?

My preferences are more or less the same as yours, but I'm not under any illusion that they will make any difference to how this plays out.

So I hope for the best. I've had more than a dozen years to enjoy Brian singing flat and unmolested. If they must use autotune, fine. I can't stop them. But as a listener, I just don't want to be distracted by it.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on April 25, 2012, 07:18:06 PM
hearing the Boys backing Dennis on Forever is heartbreaking and tremendous. i don't know if the video adds to the experience or takes away from it, but i'm tearing up listening to it on my couch.

True dat. I'll probably lose it at the concert.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Ron on April 25, 2012, 07:18:23 PM
I'd love a BJ

I don't think those can be sent through PM. ;D

Yeah.... but then again, Tupac can't do concerts with Snoop Dogg anymore either... BUT I SAW HIM DO IT ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO.

So you never know.  This damn technology is amazing.  


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: RCTID on April 25, 2012, 07:22:49 PM
what's this about PM's?

i don't know what's going on, but if everyone else wants one then i want one too.  ;D

please?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SG7 on April 25, 2012, 07:29:34 PM
Wow I didn't even notice this? When is it the most evident?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: LetHimRun on April 25, 2012, 07:30:01 PM
I'd love a BJ

I don't think those can be sent through PM. ;D

Yeah.... but then again, Tupac can't do concerts with Snoop Dogg anymore either... BUT I SAW HIM DO IT ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO.

So you never know.  This damn technology is amazing.  

Well, this one needs to get done ASAP then.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Phoenix on April 25, 2012, 07:30:59 PM
Fine.  I can't resist any longer.  I've tried.  
Somebody hook me up, please.  :-\


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on April 25, 2012, 07:36:32 PM
Sometimes brian sounds amazing, sometimes he sounds like a robot.

I'd prefer it without it.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Awesoman on April 25, 2012, 07:37:57 PM
It would be much appreciated if someone would PM me!

I'd gladly take a PM as well.  :-)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Pretty Funky on April 25, 2012, 07:40:04 PM
What the heck!

Can I get a PM this PM?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: stack-o-tracks on April 25, 2012, 07:40:26 PM
Wow I didn't even notice this? When is it the most evident?

The "we could ride" part of Surfer Girl was the first part I really noticed it. Also a lot of That's Why God Made The Radio and Heroes & Villains.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on April 25, 2012, 07:41:39 PM
Wow I didn't even notice this? When is it the most evident?

From the minute you hear him sing on Surfer Girl, B-Pain's in the building.  It's not a spot here or there.. they left it going full throttle for the whole show.

 :-\

On another note, everyone else sounds great. Really impressed with how Mike's, Al's and Bruce's voices still retain their original vocal character.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: LetHimRun on April 25, 2012, 07:43:28 PM
Wow I didn't even notice this? When is it the most evident?

From the minute you hear him sing on Surfer Girl, B-Pain's in the building.  It's not a spot here or there.. they left it going full throttle for the whole show.

 :-\

On another note, everyone else sounds great. Really impressed with how Mike's, Al's and Bruce's voices still retain their original vocal character.

B-Pain, classic, yet sad.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 25, 2012, 07:47:10 PM
Sometimes brian sounds amazing, sometimes he sounds like a robot.

I'd prefer it without it.

Where does he sound "amazing"? Everything I've heard thus far is laughable due to the autotune. The irony is, I've NEVER heard Brian as out of tune as he is with this! Autotune has been known to actually make the vocal out of tune in extreme cases, and boy oh boy does it sound pretty extreme here.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on April 25, 2012, 07:49:37 PM
When it is 100% in tune, which he normally never is.
It's only 10% of the time though, Serously though, they need to stop it!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: pixletwin on April 25, 2012, 07:50:05 PM
I can see Autotune pretty easily throwing off the best singers. Heck, even reverb or an echo chamber can put a singer out of tune, let alone autotune.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on April 25, 2012, 07:52:13 PM
Gotta wonder who made this decision. You'd think they'd realize during rehearsals that it doesn't work.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: NatureShowInStereo on April 25, 2012, 07:56:39 PM
Sometimes brian sounds amazing, sometimes he sounds like a robot.

I'd prefer it without it.

Where does he sound "amazing"? Everything I've heard thus far is laughable due to the autotune. The irony is, I've NEVER heard Brian as out of tune as he is with this! Autotune has been known to actually make the vocal out of tune in extreme cases, and boy oh boy does it sound pretty extreme here.

Exactly, the autotune is canceling itself out almost. It's on a little too strong. Very obvious in the "improvised" style parts. It's supposed to make his singing BETTER and that's the irony in this whole thing. Honestly, I think he sounds worse with the autotune than he would with his natural trying voice. He can't sound THAT bad. Just get that pitch correction out of here.

I also considered that it could be on for the first few shows to boost his confidence a bit? Just a brainstorm idea.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on April 25, 2012, 07:57:56 PM
Gotta wonder who made this decision. You'd think they'd realize during rehearsals that it doesn't work.

Yes, but as a live musican myself, everything can go wrong on the actual night and be fine in rehersals, but this is just inexcusable.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: anazgnos on April 25, 2012, 08:05:11 PM
Autotune obviously shouldn't come within a million miles of a live show just on general principals, but it's almost more galling that it's being done so badly here than that they're doing it at all.  It sounds really amateur hour, and not something anybody should have signed off on as an acceptable effect.  I would seriously hope that there was a big "let's review what went wrong" meeting among the people responsible after the show.  

It seems like it escaped the notice of any of the press writeups from last night but if it goes on like that, I'm certain they will eventually get called out on it.  I think it threatens to be way more of an embarrassment to the group than any mere off-key singing.

Just to avoid PhilCohening this thread, I really do think Brian sounds good.  I feel like as long as there's some energy in his delivery and he doesn't sound totally checked out  - which he doesn't, going by last night - his vocals work.  There's a lot to love about this tour and the setlist and the production and I hope they do whatever they need to do to remove this liability from the show.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Autotune on April 25, 2012, 08:07:44 PM
The further he sings from the pitch, the more robotic it will sound.

I tell ya: I'd rather have a pitch corrector hooked up there than letting Brian embarrass himself while trying to sing his own tunes.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 25, 2012, 08:11:17 PM
The further he sings from the pitch, the more robotic it will sound.

I tell ya: I'd rather have a pitch corrector hooked up there than letting Brian embarrass himself while trying to sing his own tunes.

Are you hearing how awful this is? I'm not trying to defend Brian when I say that the filter is actually making him more out of tune than he probably was because of how extreme it was.

I've never really heard Brian "embarrass" himself because he sang so badly during a live performance. Certainly heard a few where he was a bit "pitchy" or sounded like he didn't really give a sh*t to be there, but he's never sounded as bad as he does here, and the filter is to blame. I hear energy, I hear "give a sh*t"ness, I'm betting he sounded just fine.

Even Brian at his vocal peak would have sounded pretty damn awful through this because, given the extreme amount of correction, no human can keep up. They just can't. It's not a case of, "The further he sings from the pitch, the more robotic it will sound," it's the comical amount of extreme correction people generally use only for effect, not for actual pitch correction.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: amonomous on April 25, 2012, 08:11:39 PM
It would be much appreciated if someone would PM me!

I'd gladly take a PM as well.  :-)


I've already bought TWGMTR and played it 1,000x's, but if we're talking live stuff, I tried to be discrete before and got nothing, and I'd planned to try getting my mini digital recorder into the show on Sunday in Raleigh so I could contribute *something* too, it's kind of like when I first started tape trading before the net, I didn't really *have* anything to trade yet but desperately wanted to get a start at it and had no luck trying to buy something to start with until Dave Prokopy himself sent me 3 maxell cassettes with what had to be the most complete SMiLE set up to that point, complete with a nicely written and printed up (albeit xeroxed) booklet and I was off to the races. I will never forget the joy I got from making copies and putting the same booklet together (complete with little paper sleeve) and dubbing those tapes and then anxiously awaiting a personal thank you letter and some Summer Days/Nights and Today! sessions along with the Pet Sounds preview disc that was floating around when we were *supposed* to get the box set the first time..

I've never and will never understand people who go on forums (or anywhere for that matter) and brag and talk about what they have that everyone else wants. That's no fun. If I have something and can find anyone who loves the Beach Boys as much as me, I'm ecstatic to share, it's the people who couldn't care less but expect me to fall all over myself for their favorite James Blunt song or whatever that really bug me.. certainly not the ones who *want* to know more/hear more Beach Boys. /my little rant.

quick edit: sorry to get off topic, that was just something I've noticed a LOT in the forum communities and believe me, it's actually not bad here but it does get frustrating when you try to be discrete and then see message after message later in the day outright asking for it. Having said that: I'm PSYCHED to be taking my daughter to this and sharing this experience with her, I also see a LOT of her favorites on that wet dream of a setlist (that's about twice what they played when I saw them and most of the car songs were a medley, I guess to make room for a full rendition of "Duke of Earl")  and everything I've read so far has me salivating to hear something.. Lest anyone "phil" me.. "You phil me?" :p I probably shouldn't be posting after the day I've had though, admittedly, but I had to add that in there: I REALLY needed this after a very tough 2011 and `12 so far but SMiLE Sessions was released on my birthday, then this? It's so surreal but I'll take it. :)

Post post Script edit lol - THANK YOU! ;)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Pretty Funky on April 25, 2012, 08:13:07 PM
What the heck!

Can I get a PM this PM?

My PM seems to be working very well. Thanks!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVI
Post by: Sie W on April 25, 2012, 08:23:35 PM
Good stuff


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Ron on April 25, 2012, 08:24:46 PM
I've never and will never understand people who go on forums (or anywhere for that matter) and brag and talk about what they have that everyone else wants. That's no fun. If I have something and can find anyone who loves the Beach Boys as much as me, I'm ecstatic to share, it's the people who couldn't care less but expect me to fall all over myself for their favorite James Blunt song or whatever that really bug me.. certainly not the ones who *want* to know more/hear more Beach Boys. /my little rant.

Don't take it personally amonomous, I'll try to explain for you.  

1.  Record companies don't like having copies of live shows floating around, ESPECIALLY if  they may release a cd/dvd of this tour in the near future.  The reason they don't like having the copies floating around, is because they feel it will hurt ticket sales if you can hear what happens at the show for free.  That's their opinion, whether or not it's valid can be argued both ways.

2.  In extreme instances, if a forum such as this one consistantly is posting material that is technically illegal (like a live concert recording)... the owners of that copyrighted material could do all kinds of nasty things, up to and including shutting down the site, or even bringing a lawsuit (that they may or may not win) against the OWNER of the forum.

3.  Capitol Records has people that read this board daily.  It's pretty much the biggest Beach Boys message board on the internet.

So as you can see, it's very important to the owner of this site that illegal concert recordings not be published here, even if it's just a link.  You may not agree that it's illegal or that it hurts sales or whatever, but Capitol Records holds all the cards and can make things very tough for the site owners if they wanted to be jerks about it.  


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on April 25, 2012, 08:29:32 PM
Gotta wonder who made this decision. You'd think they'd realize during rehearsals that it doesn't work.

Yes, but as a live musican myself, everything can go wrong on the actual night and be fine in rehersals, but this is just inexcusable.

Yeah man. I don't care how good of a day BW is having.. he would never sound good with the autotune set to zero retune like that. No one would really, aside from Mr. T-Pain himself. They could have fixed it mid-show, but this was clearly something they wanted to do (unless they meant to send it to Foskett's mic  ;D). Just like hiding his bangin' vocal on live TV for the Grammys, this stuff isn't necessary. Nothing wrong with a little rawness. It's Brian F'n Wilson. It pisses me off to think that the multitracks for the first show of the tour contain this compromised vocal.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Wirestone on April 25, 2012, 08:37:49 PM
It's very curious.

Autotune is one of those things it is very hard to unhear. So once it's apparent that Brian's vocals are being processed, you can hear the effect everywhere. It's hard to listen objectively, in other words.

But none of the live audience reports from last night mention the tuning. And I can't believe that the critics, etc., in the audience were that unsophisticated. So the room itself, possibly the PA system or some other sound source, may have made it less apparent if you were actually there.

Brian has toured successfully for years. Why spring this crazy new thing on him during the highest profile string of shows he's had for awhile? Brian's also an incredibly inconsistent vocalist, so why would anyone think that live tuning would even work? If the tuning made Brian sound like an angel, that would be one thing. But at least in what I've heard, it doesn't do much of anything except make him sound strange when he's trying to hit a high note.

None of the people arranging this tour are dumb either. Say what you want about Mike, Melinda, et. al, but they are smart cookies. And they know when Brian sounds good and when he sounds bad. So why do this?

Something here doesn't add up.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Justin on April 25, 2012, 08:38:02 PM
An LA Times review of last night's show:


(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef016304c4702d970d-600wi)

Live: The Beach Boys kick off 50th anniversary tour in Tucson

TUCSON -- Let's not make too much of the fact that the Beach Boys kicked off their 50th anniversary tour on casino grounds, nowhere near the beach, on a day that hit 105, with gusts of dry wind blowing in from the surrounding Arizona desert -- not a wave, T-bird or little surfer girl in sight.

After all, the band, touring for the first time in decades with co-founders Brian Wilson, Mike Love and Al Jardine, as well as longtime voice Bruce Johnston and early member David Marks, transcended the literal summer ages ago in service of the metaphorical kind, one that celebrated Southern California life and put sound to a cultural vibe.

This is one reason why at Casino del Sol on the Yaqui reservation, the band, augmented by a dozen instrumentalists and vocalists, was able to convincingly sing about summertime joys, fears and frustrations even though most of the remaining Boys have been doing this for four decades and are themselves approaching proverbial wintertime.

The first of a five-month, 56-show tour that would challenge a band half its age, the Beach Boys will travel the arenas, festivals and outdoor amphitheaters of America (and, later in the year, Europe and Asia) offering a version of this concert.

If opening night is any indication, the Beach Boys will celebrate not only their sound, but the music that gave birth to it and was inspired by it. They performed songs by Phil Spector, Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers, and the Mamas and the Papas, among others, while images of the band in its glory days cascaded across the big screen.

And if Wilson's distant onstage presence in Tucson is a hint, it's going to be a long summer for him.

Wilson, the sole living brother from the trio that included Dennis and Carl, who has avoided the Beach Boys stage like the plague -- while his revolutionary aesthetic has been reverently honored by new generations.

The quintet of clean-cut, handsome young men from Hawthorne sent out a four-song demo that put sound and lyrics to the uniquely L.A. lifestyle of beaches, breezes, bikinis and muscle cars. Two of those songs, "Surfin' Safari" and "Surfer Girl," have become singalong classics, and the band offered them early in the set.

These hits set the course for much that followed: from "Help Me, Rhonda" to "Wouldn't It Be Nice" to "Little Deuce Coupe," the Beach Boys brought the massive Wilson production sound to life. While the principals played along -- Wilson on white grand piano, Jardine and Marks on guitar, Johnston on keyboards, and Love on vocals -- a bevy of young backing musicians pushed forth driving rhythms (three percussionists), guitar texture (at times, as many as five guitarists), keyboards (three of them), and a virtual choir of male voices filling songs whose age and design has rendered them exquisite antiquities.

The music they presented embodies a SoCal, endless summer archetype.

The band understands this and offers evidence of this spirit in the Hawaiian shirts they wear -- and in the songs they still sing. When Love, whose warm, confident voice can still hit the notes effortlessly, sang his 1964 love letter to a motorcycle, "Little Honda," you could hear the wind blowing through the spokes. When Jardine harmonized on "Catch a Wave," his joy was infectious, especially when he pumped his fist and pointed at Wilson.

But Wilson didn't seem to be having much fun. Sitting behind his piano stone-faced, he feigned a smile a few times, and had to be nudged into acknowledging the crowd when they rose to give him his first ovation during his falsetto-intoned version of Lymon's "Why Do Fools Fall in Love."

He appeared to be residing within the Malibu of his mind at times, then ambivalent if not miserable in other moments. There's a reason why he stopped touring with the Beach Boys: He obviously doesn't like it.

One of the few times he tapped his foot and bounced his torso was during "Sloop John B," which opened the second, and much more vibrant, of the two sets. One of the night's high points, the band presented "Sloop" with the same rush-of-wind exuberance of the recording, a sharp reminder of a band at its peak. "Wouldn't It Be Nice" was equally inspiring, as were the odes to departed brothers Dennis and Carl, both of whom duetted from beyond via recordings -- Carl's lead on "God Only Knows" was gorgeous.

From the beaches in their youth to the casinos in their retirement years, there is certainly something bittersweet going on. Anyone who understands both nostalgia and the aging process will no doubt have an idea of the frayed edges, the relentlessness of singing the same songs over and over again for five decades, as Jardine, Love and Johnston have done. They have combated this by adding vocalists who can hit the notes they no longer can -- singer/guitarist/bandleader Jeff Foskett is the unsung workhorse of this show, who covers for Wilson on the more difficult notes.

Long ago turned men, the Beach Boys on the opening night of an impressively relentless schedule did what you'd expect, and did it quite well. Wilson and the band's art, those interlocking harmonic voices, exquisite arrangements and that summer feeling were celebrated 100 miles from Phoenix, where in 1962 "Surfin' Safari" got its first substantial airplay.

Even if the sight of five aging men offered visual confirmation that summer does indeed end, and winter can get a little tough, it doesn't mean you can't handle this reality, as the Beach Boys did, with both pride and grace.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: hypehat on April 25, 2012, 08:47:36 PM
I just can't believe it because just over 6 months ago I sat in the Royal Festival Hall and watched Brian Wilson nail his entire fucking Gershwin album (with Jeff only helping him out on ONE SONG), and The Beach Boys think he can't fucking sing. And I've been genuinely optimistic about this reunion up until now. I honestly can't believe they would do that to him. I can't believe his band let that fly. Even presentation-conscious wife&managers, and Jeff 'Kneecaps' Foskett, never stooped that low.

It's 4am here and I can't sleep. Hence the cursing/melodrama. But still. Are they actually serious.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: jmc on April 25, 2012, 08:49:17 PM
PM me too please.  Thanks in advance.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 25, 2012, 08:53:17 PM
I hope the autotune usage stops soon...I don't want that to mar the 8 June show!!!


That said, Wirestone brings up a good point. Something doesn't seem right at all.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: hypehat on April 25, 2012, 08:56:50 PM
I don't get it though. Are we talking sabotage? Is Stamos in the booth?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: 18thofMay on April 25, 2012, 09:01:42 PM
Are we sure its autotune? Backing tape maybe? Some new technology?
He started late on some songs and was filled in on in some places.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: the professor on April 25, 2012, 09:02:11 PM
is it appropriate to request a PM as well? I fear I am unfamiliar with the PM, but I would like to be part of this discussion.

thank you


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on April 25, 2012, 09:04:07 PM
Are we sure its autotune? Backing tape maybe? Some new technology?
He started late on some songs and was filled in on in some places.


This guy told me it's autotune

(http://i49.tinypic.com/2ni9s12.jpg)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: send me a picture and i'll tell you on April 25, 2012, 09:10:22 PM
Please Make my evening, too!

Ya know, I'm pretty sure I heard autotune used on Brian's middle eight in the Dodgers Stadium version of Surfer Girl. He usually flats a bit on "ride", but in this case, the tone got weaker while the pitch stayed absolutely stable.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: 18thofMay on April 25, 2012, 09:13:48 PM
On Heroes? I cannot hear it


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: hypehat on April 25, 2012, 09:15:20 PM
On Heroes? I cannot hear it

You must be crazy if you think he's singing like that by himself.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: PongHit on April 25, 2012, 09:19:25 PM

What happened here? I leave for a few hours, and now I'm... confused. Meanwhile, I'm back to my TM.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: jeffcdo on April 25, 2012, 09:22:42 PM
Ok uncle!  PM purty please.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: the professor on April 25, 2012, 09:32:33 PM
heavens, I do hear Jeff singing Brian's parts (that's OK), but I cannot detect the autotune (should stay out of that issue).  But Dave is ripping some extraordinary solos, Mike sounds great, and the selection is great: Don't Back down, catch a wave--brilliant.  I can't believe this is happening: BB live in one window and a new single in an other.

thanks


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: 18thofMay on April 25, 2012, 09:35:49 PM
On Heroes? I cannot hear it

You must be crazy if you think he's singing like that by himself.
It is almost identical to how he sounded over here in Australia last time I heard him. The Surfer Girl part at the start of his chorus part is my only suss part.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: endofposts on April 25, 2012, 09:40:14 PM
If it's really auto-tune, I don't want to hear it.  I also don't want to go to the show.  Brian's "people" have to be behind it if that's what is happening.  I'm not sure why they "allowed" him to go on the reunion tour if they had that little faith in him. 


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 25, 2012, 09:41:10 PM
Quote
heavens, I do hear Jeff singing Brian's parts (that's OK), but I cannot detect the autotune (should stay out of that issue).

You know? I don't really either. Something sounds off, but not necessarily autotune. Is there a different recording circulating? Cause from this one, here's what I notice. On 'Surfer Girl' I hear (too much) reverb and Brian's voice kinda give a bit towards the end of his solo. If anything, I hear the same reverb on Mike's mic (heh) during his speaking parts between songs, and on the audience. It's the damn acoustics of the room. If Brian's autotuned was Dennis on 'Forever'. There was a bit too much reverb on Brian's mic, which is odd because usually it is way too dry.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on April 25, 2012, 09:43:57 PM
Quote
heavens, I do hear Jeff singing Brian's parts (that's OK), but I cannot detect the autotune (should stay out of that issue).

You know? I don't really either. Something sounds off, but not necessarily autotune. Is there a different recording circulating? Cause from this one, here's what I notice. On 'Surfer Girl' I hear (too much) reverb and Brian's voice kinda give a bit towards the end of his solo. If anything, I hear the same reverb on Mike's mic (heh) during his speaking parts between songs, and on the audience. It's the damn acoustics of the room. If Brian's autotuned was Dennis on 'Forever'. There was a bit too much reverb on Brian's mic, which is odd because usually it is way too dry.

It's autotune guys. On Brian's mic only.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: rschwertley on April 25, 2012, 09:44:43 PM
Have not done this before but would love a PM! Looking forward to Woodinville.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 25, 2012, 09:44:52 PM
You guys are joshing, right? Right.

P.S. That's not OK imo.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Wirestone on April 25, 2012, 10:05:11 PM
After Billy's post and listening more ... I think he's onto something.

All is not as it appears here.

There may well be autotune -- although Brian is managing to slide off pitch a lot with it, anyway. But if there is, I doubt it sounded anywhere near as terrible as we think it does. There are issues with this recording. A lot of the vocalists are sounding metallic.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: RBennett123 on April 25, 2012, 10:13:10 PM
Is it too much to ask for a PM on my first post??


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Ron on April 25, 2012, 10:13:45 PM
Wait: I thought this board was full of pro-tools experts who know what 'autotune' is and what setting to set it on, and they had all agreed that it was auto-tuned, in a live setting, on only 1 microphone.  

NOW YOU'RE TELLING ME MAYBE THEY DONT KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT??????

Sayitain'tso.  

I haven't heard any of it, but it's kind of funny to hear Wirestone say things like "Once you've heard Autotune, you can't unhear it!" then having him say maybe it's not aututune.  






Maybe perhaps none of us know what the hell is going on?  Just enjoy the music guys, stop trying to pull back the curtain.  You won't like what you find back there, and he won't be able to send you back to Kansas.  


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Wirestone on April 25, 2012, 10:14:40 PM
Wait: I thought this board was full of pro-tools experts who know what 'autotune' is and what setting to set it on, and they had all agreed that it was auto-tuned, in a live setting, on only 1 microphone.  

NOW YOU'RE TELLING ME MAYBE THEY DONT KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT??????

Sayitain'tso.  

I haven't heard any of it, but it's kind of funny to hear Wirestone say things like "Once you've heard Autotune, you can't unhear it!" then having him say maybe it's not aututune.  






Maybe perhaps none of us know what the hell is going on?  Just enjoy the music guys, stop trying to pull back the curtain.  You won't like what you find back there, and he won't be able to send you back to Kansas.  

Never said I was perfect.

As a matter of fact, I sort of depend on it.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 25, 2012, 10:17:32 PM
has passed more than ten years since the the nirvana candle has been off ,but in our minds the grunge sounds of the cobain lyrics and guitar,the great bass of novlosemic and tne powerfull drums of grohl still playing...
i was born after the end of nirvana but i heard it and i know to apreciate it and remember...
for us nirvana is alive

(god im crying!)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: anazgnos on April 25, 2012, 10:19:15 PM
It's entirely possible there's just something weird about the recording.  And as more shows happen it should become clearer.  Hopefully this will all just fade away and we'll all have a good laugh in a few weeks about how we were all freaked out about autotune.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 25, 2012, 10:21:32 PM
Quote
Wait: I thought this board was full of pro-tools experts who know what 'autotune' is and what setting to set it on, and they had all agreed that it was auto-tuned, in a live setting, on only 1 microphone.  

NOW YOU'RE TELLING ME MAYBE THEY DONT KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT?Huh??

I thought it was there until I listened to the recording. Listen to Mike's speaking parts, they sound the same as Brian's singing parts. It was recorded on an iPhone for Wilson's sake.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: anazgnos on April 25, 2012, 10:26:57 PM
I was first listening to this at work, and I was like, I'm listening to an audience iPhone recording at 60kb/s through crappy desktop speakers at low volume with office noise all around me, so, how much can I really trust what I think I'm hearing?  I still really think Brian is being autotuned on that show, but I'm well aware that the evidence shouldn't be leaned on that hard yet.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 25, 2012, 10:30:56 PM
There is autotune on Brian's voice and seemingly Brian's voice alone. An iPhone recording can not be so poor as to somehow apply autotune or something that sounds exactly like it to one person's voice. I don't hear it on Mike's speaking parts, I hear it all over all of Brian's leads. It's apparent on "Sail On Sailor" and it's extremely apparent on "Heroes And Villains". There's nothing weird about the recording, it's not a reverb effect, people aren't getting hysterical and hearing something that's not there, there is live autotune on Brian's voice on this show. "If it looks like a duck..."


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: send me a picture and i'll tell you on April 25, 2012, 10:31:59 PM
I'm also hearing autotune on Brian's (and only Brian's) mic.  He's perfectly and metallically in tune, except when the machine bumps him an entire half-step low.

Here's another view, to complement that of "OMG, they are hiding Brian behind autotune because they're ashamed of him and he can't sing"...perhaps he tried singing through it, and he likes the confidence it gives him?  Maybe he's insisting on it? After all, all signs say he's holding the cards in these proceedings.  I think the autotune is his idea.

Of course, considering how he used it on all his albums except one, I wonder why he abandoned it altogether on GIOMH...


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Ron on April 25, 2012, 10:32:26 PM
[Never said I was perfect.

As a matter of fact, I sort of depend on it.

I'm not trying to pick on you, it's just that you're always memorable for some reason, that must be a good thing.  These tedious discussions though of what people imagine they're hearing, and then the inevitable realization that they didn't hear what they thought they were hearing.... are pretty incredulous.  It's just negativity for the sake of negativity.  What's the point of imagining you hear something bad, only to eventually admit you didn't hear it?  Why don't you go the other way and imagine you heard something GOOD that you didn't hear?  Why's it always negative?  

Just focus on the things you enjoy from the music.  I'll stop lecturing you now, lol.  Have a good evening Wirestone.  


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Ron on April 25, 2012, 10:34:42 PM
Quote
Wait: I thought this board was full of pro-tools experts who know what 'autotune' is and what setting to set it on, and they had all agreed that it was auto-tuned, in a live setting, on only 1 microphone.  

NOW YOU'RE TELLING ME MAYBE THEY DONT KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT?Huh??

I thought it was there until I listened to the recording. Listen to Mike's speaking parts, they sound the same as Brian's singing parts. It was recorded on an iPhone for Wilson's sake.

I imagine it's something like that, I just couldn't resist the opportunity to poke a little fun at all the autotune nerds. 

You know what I saw at the mall today?  Autotune.

You know what I saw when I made breakfast this morning?  Autotune.

You know what I saw when I took my clothes out of the dryer?  Autotune.

When I looked in the closet you know what I saw?   ....  No Autotune.... but when I turned around

HE WAS RIGHT BEHHHINNNNNDDD MEEEEE


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 25, 2012, 10:43:03 PM
I'm also hearing autotune on Brian's (and only Brian's) mic.  He's perfectly and metallically in tune, except when the machine bumps him an entire half-step low.

Here's another view, to complement that of "OMG, they are hiding Brian behind autotune because they're ashamed of him and he can't sing"...perhaps he tried singing through it, and he likes the confidence it gives him?  Maybe he's insisting on it? After all, all signs say he's holding the cards in these proceedings.  I think the autotune is his idea.

Of course, considering how he used it on all his albums except one, I wonder why he abandoned it altogether on GIOMH...

He didn't...it just sounded worse because he couldn't give a ant's pecker about the recordings.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: jamsvet on April 25, 2012, 10:45:22 PM
I too would love a PM


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: send me a picture and i'll tell you on April 25, 2012, 10:48:41 PM
I'm also hearing autotune on Brian's (and only Brian's) mic.  He's perfectly and metallically in tune, except when the machine bumps him an entire half-step low.

Here's another view, to complement that of "OMG, they are hiding Brian behind autotune because they're ashamed of him and he can't sing"...perhaps he tried singing through it, and he likes the confidence it gives him?  Maybe he's insisting on it? After all, all signs say he's holding the cards in these proceedings.  I think the autotune is his idea.

Of course, considering how he used it on all his albums except one, I wonder why he abandoned it altogether on GIOMH...

He didn't...it just sounded worse because he couldn't give a ant's pecker about the recordings.

I think he did abandon it, except perhaps on some backing vocals. "You Touched Me" sure as hockeysticks ain't touched by autotune.

When things calm down around here, Imma gonna start a thread about how GIOMH is the perfect BW album, the distillation of his Briany essence.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Jaspy on April 25, 2012, 10:56:41 PM
If there's auto-tune on Brian's mic, you can hear it during the bridge of "Surfer Girl" where he sings "I would take you". He usually plays with the I and goes a bit deeper for a moment, but the machine holds him on the same note this time and it sound weird.
Too bad, man.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on April 25, 2012, 10:58:38 PM
I'm also hearing autotune on Brian's (and only Brian's) mic.  He's perfectly and metallically in tune, except when the machine bumps him an entire half-step low.

Here's another view, to complement that of "OMG, they are hiding Brian behind autotune because they're ashamed of him and he can't sing"...perhaps he tried singing through it, and he likes the confidence it gives him?  Maybe he's insisting on it? After all, all signs say he's holding the cards in these proceedings.  I think the autotune is his idea.

Definitely possible that he insisted on using it as a security blanket. But I'm not sure. He's been performing without it for the past 12 years, and I'd think if he was hearing the craziness of the autotune in his monitor, that would be more discouraging than anything.  His pitch at live shows is generally pretty on point. He seems to appear visibly frustrated when he hits a bum note. But who knows, I just hope they address this. And if they don't, well, I'm pretty sure I'll be able to carry on.  ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Aegir on April 25, 2012, 11:04:52 PM
I don't hear autotune at all.

and The Little Girl I Once Knew is great! Just hearing Mike say "split man" was enough to bring a smile to my face.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Ron on April 25, 2012, 11:05:13 PM
I'm also hearing autotune on Brian's (and only Brian's) mic.  He's perfectly and metallically in tune, except when the machine bumps him an entire half-step low.

Here's another view, to complement that of "OMG, they are hiding Brian behind autotune because they're ashamed of him and he can't sing"...perhaps he tried singing through it, and he likes the confidence it gives him?  Maybe he's insisting on it? After all, all signs say he's holding the cards in these proceedings.  I think the autotune is his idea.

Of course, considering how he used it on all his albums except one, I wonder why he abandoned it altogether on GIOMH...

He didn't...it just sounded worse because he couldn't give a ant's pecker about the recordings.

I think he did abandon it, except perhaps on some backing vocals. "You Touched Me" sure as hockeysticks ain't touched by autotune.

When things calm down around here, Imma gonna start a thread about how GIOMH is the perfect BW album, the distillation of his Briany essence.

You may be onto something, I'm just as happy to hear his 'quirk' than his masterpieces, so I enjoyed a lot of that album.  "You Touched Me" that you mentioned has that incredible outro, for instance.  Also I guess it's the last time we heard the 'wall of Brian'.  


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Aegir on April 25, 2012, 11:08:24 PM
I'm almost crying listening to Forever. from just listening to the audio it's like Dennis is really there.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Alan Smith on April 25, 2012, 11:08:44 PM
Darn - all the good stuff happens while I'm at work or snoozin' - if someone could hook me up, I'd really appreciate it (not Shady tho', I can't comply with his demands  :lol)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: the professor on April 25, 2012, 11:13:13 PM
review of the 1st show:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2012/04/live-the-beach-boys-kick-off-50th-anniversary-tour-in-tucson.html

I did not see a thread for reviews of the shows (new shows), so I am offering this from my little home-town paper; please paste it to another segment if appropriate. It's a great review.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: stack-o-tracks on April 25, 2012, 11:14:04 PM
I'm almost crying listening to Forever. from just listening to the audio it's like Dennis is really there.

I got mad goosebumps the first time I listened to it. Can't wait to see it in person....


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Aegir on April 25, 2012, 11:17:21 PM
all of this is so great. I hope everyone of these shows is recorded. this is what it feels like to follow a really popular band doing current things. great.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Justin on April 25, 2012, 11:17:31 PM
review of the 1st show:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2012/04/live-the-beach-boys-kick-off-50th-anniversary-tour-in-tucson.html

I did not see a thread for reviews of the shows (new shows), so I am offering this from my little home-town paper; please paste it to another segment if appropriate. It's a great review.

Posted it on page 23 of this thread....sorta got lost in the shuffle with the autotune discussions  ;)

Yeah I think we should keep all reviews (both fan and media) under one thread.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: RickD on April 25, 2012, 11:32:46 PM
It may have been lost a few pages back, but I'm still not sure if my PMs are working. Would someone mind testing it , please.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Wirestone on April 25, 2012, 11:47:19 PM
It's just that you're always memorable for some reason, that must be a good thing.

To have you say that, Ron ...

Well, I'll take it as a compliment.  ;D



Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: ReggieDunbarJr on April 25, 2012, 11:53:32 PM
Finally my login works!
Lost my password for (ReggieDunbar)
Anyway!

Seemed like a great show! Few thoughts:
- Bruce taking turns with Carl on the ending of GoK made me cry, using Carls vocals from Knebworth= genius!
- Don't back down = proves what a great drummer Cowsill is
- Bruce and Al blends really great on the harmonies, Surfin Safari really rocks!
- Brians lead, sounds confident and rocking. Autotune can fix the pitch, but theres no button for confidence and rocking. 

//RD


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Custom Machine on April 25, 2012, 11:56:36 PM
The performance sounds fine to me.  

Yeah, BW's "I would take you" on Surfer Girl sounds like it could be a little suspect, but, assuming the audio I'm listening to is the same stuff heard on the PMs, this is a very low bit rate (64 kbps) aac audience recording, which by definition is going to do some weird things to the sound in the way of introducing undesirable audio artifacts.

A 64 kbps recording uses a little less than 5% of the bits found on a uncompressed CD quality recording.  Yeah, aac perceptual coding is used, but at 64 kbps you are definitely going to get some unpleasant audio artifacts.  (On the other hand, when you download That's Why God Made the Radio on iTunes, it sounds great at 256 kbps, even though that's less than 20% of the bit rate of a CD quality uncompressed recording, due to the ability of the aac perceptual coder at that higher bit rate to very closely replicate for the listener the music as it would be heard on an uncompressed CD.)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Custom Machine on April 26, 2012, 12:00:20 AM
(Darn!  Meant to hit "modify" and selected "quote" instead, resulting in this unneeded post.  So as to not waste this space, has everyone heard about the traveling salesman and the farmer's daughter?  Well, ....  Oops, sorry, lost my head!)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Custom Machine on April 26, 2012, 12:03:35 AM
(And yet another inadvertent duplicate post!  Intending to modify the unneeded post above, I once again hit "quote" when I meant to hit "modify".  Should have more carefully proofread my original post so I wouldn't have needed to add to it in the first place!)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: adavidw on April 26, 2012, 12:16:23 AM
It's very curious.

Autotune is one of those things it is very hard to unhear. So once it's apparent that Brian's vocals are being processed, you can hear the effect everywhere. It's hard to listen objectively, in other words.

But none of the live audience reports from last night mention the tuning. And I can't believe that the critics, etc., in the audience were that unsophisticated. So the room itself, possibly the PA system or some other sound source, may have made it less apparent if you were actually there.

Brian has toured successfully for years. Why spring this crazy new thing on him during the highest profile string of shows he's had for awhile? Brian's also an incredibly inconsistent vocalist, so why would anyone think that live tuning would even work? If the tuning made Brian sound like an angel, that would be one thing. But at least in what I've heard, it doesn't do much of anything except make him sound strange when he's trying to hit a high note.

None of the people arranging this tour are dumb either. Say what you want about Mike, Melinda, et. al, but they are smart cookies. And they know when Brian sounds good and when he sounds bad. So why do this?

Something here doesn't add up.


I've got to echo this. I went to the show last night. I feel like I have a pretty good ear, and I can tell when auto tune is being overused or misbehaving, and I didn't hear anything like that last night. I got some sound files today that I'm listening to, and yes, some parts in Surfer Girl do sound suspect, but I am adamant when I say, this is not the way it sounded last night.

Brian sounded exactly like Brian last night, which is to say kind of bad. Let's face it, he's old, he ruined his voice with smoking and drugs, and his mental state over the years probably prevented him from putting the kind of work and practice necessary to keep his voice well. That said, I'm a huge fan, and I was there to see him. I listened intently to every note he sang that actually made it through the mix, and everything sounded exactly as I expected it to sound, without any signs of auto tune.

I was 25 feet away from Brian, and so maybe the overwhelming sound from the speakers above were hiding some things that did actually come out clearer in the back of the venue, or maybe I was just too excited last night to hear in very great detail. But maybe, just maybe, it's also possible that maybe a 64kbps AAC recording made through a little tiny crappy microphone just maybe isn't accurate enough to tell what was going on? Anyone who's trying to foment a ruckus here based just on hearing that recording ought to perhaps be quiet and reserve judgement until they can see the show for themselves or at least wait until some higher quality recordings appear.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: 18thofMay on April 26, 2012, 12:19:44 AM
I still do not hear Autotune after many, many listens!
100% No auto-tune, confirmed!!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 26, 2012, 12:52:10 AM
But maybe, just maybe, it's also possible that maybe a 64kbps AAC recording made through a little tiny crappy microphone just maybe isn't accurate enough to tell what was going on? Anyone who's trying to foment a ruckus here based just on hearing that recording ought to perhaps be quiet and reserve judgement until they can see the show for themselves or at least weight until some higher quality recordings appear.

Encoding to m4a does not create autotune. Audience recordings do not create autotune (regardless of device). It's there, it's one of the most extreme and obvious examples of autotune I've ever heard and it only affects Brian's vocals. If it were the device or encoding to m4a, you'd hear it on Mike's leads, you'd hear it on Carl and Dennis' leads, etc. and it's just not there. I can't understand logic like this, sorry. :\


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: 18thofMay on April 26, 2012, 12:55:16 AM
But maybe, just maybe, it's also possible that maybe a 64kbps AAC recording made through a little tiny crappy microphone just maybe isn't accurate enough to tell what was going on? Anyone who's trying to foment a ruckus here based just on hearing that recording ought to perhaps be quiet and reserve judgement until they can see the show for themselves or at least weight until some higher quality recordings appear.

Encoding to m4a does not create autotune. Audience recordings do not create autotune (regardless of device). It's there, it's one of the most extreme and obvious examples of autotune I've ever heard and it only affects Brian's vocals. If it were the device or encoding to m4a, you'd hear it on Mike's leads, you'd hear it on Carl and Dennis' leads, etc. and it's just not there. I can't understand logic like this, sorry. :\
There is no auto-tune. It has been confirmed.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: stack-o-tracks on April 26, 2012, 01:01:42 AM
There's another band I'm a fan of and they put on such a great show that I didn't notice the lead singer had his drunk voice on until I watched youtube videos of the performance much later. I think being there in person can leave you kind of jaded.

Luckily, the right people will probably read this and if Brian is indeed rocking the autotune, it will be toned down a bit during future performances.

Also, 18thofMay, who confirmed that Brian's voice was not being filtered through some sort of pitch correcting software?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Jay on April 26, 2012, 01:16:52 AM
Damn it, where the heck are you guys getting recordings of this show from?  >:( I wish I could get a copy somehow.  ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: DJole on April 26, 2012, 01:17:15 AM
I don't know about the autotune issue...but I would LOVE to get that PM and have a chance to hear this gig!!!
Cheers!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Aegir on April 26, 2012, 01:21:26 AM
people signing up for the board just so people can PM them recordings for this show is disgusting.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: 18thofMay on April 26, 2012, 01:28:19 AM
people signing up for the board just so people can PM them recordings for this show is disgusting.
Should be 200 post minimum


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 26, 2012, 01:34:37 AM
There is no auto-tune. It has been confirmed.

wat


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: 18thofMay on April 26, 2012, 01:56:01 AM
There is no auto-tune. It has been confirmed.

wat
There is NO autotune.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 26, 2012, 02:01:11 AM

*giggle*


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: STE on April 26, 2012, 02:02:00 AM
There is something weird happening on Surfer Girl, and something suspicions on TWGMTR's verses but I don't hear anything on Heroes & Villains.
I highly highly doubt it is auto tune.   It's not an easy setup to have in a live setting, so I don't think it would be worth having just for a few Brian's lines (and Brian doesn't really need it anyway).


Doesn't anyone feel most songs are played too fast?
 



Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: hypehat on April 26, 2012, 02:11:01 AM
it's the worst on Heroes and Villains, imo. And people going 'well, it's the iphone' are absolutely insane.

Also, who confirmed it?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Wylson on April 26, 2012, 02:11:16 AM
If anyone can point me to where you're Getting recordings of th show I'd be grateful!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 26, 2012, 02:19:47 AM
it's the worst on Heroes and Villains, imo. And people going 'well, it's the iphone' are absolutely insane.

Also, who confirmed it?

No one confirmed it.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Cabinessenceking on April 26, 2012, 02:30:24 AM
I wonder if the Prime Minister will arrive at my house today?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Jimmie_R on April 26, 2012, 03:12:35 AM
Where can I hear the show? :/ Please give me a PM.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: homeontherange on April 26, 2012, 03:24:40 AM
I would also like a PM please...


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: STE on April 26, 2012, 03:31:43 AM
it's the worst on Heroes and Villains, imo. And people going 'well, it's the iphone' are absolutely insane.

Also, who confirmed it?


Can you specify in what parts. e.g what words, you especially hear it?
Because, again, on H&V, I don't hear it all.




Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: 18thofMay on April 26, 2012, 03:41:16 AM
I asked someone in the band.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: hypehat on April 26, 2012, 03:44:31 AM
it's the worst on Heroes and Villains, imo. And people going 'well, it's the iphone' are absolutely insane.

Also, who confirmed it?


Can you specify in what parts. e.g what words, you especially hear it?
Because, again, on H&V, I don't hear it all.





The melody on the verses jumps around too much in a way you cannot possibly sing because it's so up and down - Especially the second half of the verses - 'Fell in love years ago' and 'She's still dancing in the night' bits. It also goes bloody crazy on the 'la-la-la', the 'stand or fall' bit, his 'I've Been In this town so long' section, and you can hear it wobble during the chorus although he's being doubled by someone.

Essentially, every section of Heroes & Villains Brian sings on his own, he is wobbling all over the place and it's not because he's singing poorly. If it's not autotune, someone has stuck his voice through a phase or wah-wah or some effect like that. The pitch and phrasing is all over the damn shop.

To whit - a similarly crappy audience recording and a not great BW performance. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMZ_AF8PYPk Does it sound the same to you? Agreed, there are bits when he slips out of sync with Jeff. But nowhere near to the same extent.

I guess I can't convince anybody if they are sure they hear a pristine unadulterated BW vocal.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Dutchie on April 26, 2012, 04:15:53 AM
wow  :o
The little girl i once knew sounds great. Just like the original from the 60's.
FOREVER: close your eyes and you know he is there. Really hope that this will be on the DVD so i can see what you guys did. Same for God only knows.
TIWGMTR live. Very nice. Brian had some starting problem at the beginning  ;D but overall they did it very good.



Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Quzi on April 26, 2012, 04:17:31 AM
I'm considering substituting Porridge with Mince.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: The Shift on April 26, 2012, 04:17:34 AM
Sling me a PM anyone?

Ta!

J


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: absinthe_boy on April 26, 2012, 04:22:04 AM
Somebody said it is very difficult to do Autotune live.

Rubbish.

It's routinely done on live gigs and live TV broadcasts these days. Autotune is the work of the devil, especially where vocal harmony is concerned.

However I have not heard any of these Beach Boys recordings, unless someone is kind enough to Promise Me.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: phirnis on April 26, 2012, 04:24:08 AM
Anyone care to send me a Private Message? ;) Please?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: MarcellaHasDirtyFeet on April 26, 2012, 04:30:34 AM
Despite numerous temptations, I've never asked for a PM before because of my newbie status and outright fear of some of the other posters. But foda it. Please? May I listen too? I promise I won't complaint about ANYTHING.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Phoenix on April 26, 2012, 04:50:13 AM
Just my two cents.  I don't hear it either.  I hear doubling, etc. and a (valued and much appreciated) recording of shitty quality but I don't hear autotune.  Not surprsing since runnersdialzero and I rarely seem to agree  :-\


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: atroxi on April 26, 2012, 04:57:02 AM
In terms of the "difficulty" of doing live autotune - Rock Band 3 has it as an option.  If a videogame on consumer grade consoles can do it in real time, well...



Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: TonyW on April 26, 2012, 05:03:01 AM
Hey guys, sorry to ask but a PM would be appreciated. Thanks.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SummerInParadise23 on April 26, 2012, 05:09:39 AM
Hello; I'm new to posting on this board. I've read it for a couple years though. This site was a great resource for updates during the concert. Anyways, I can't believe there is no footage on Youtube of the show. I thought there would be tons of it. Someone please PM me this footage I'm dying to see. The set list sounds incredible. Can't wait to see the guys in a week!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on April 26, 2012, 05:11:08 AM
people signing up for the board just so people can PM them recordings for this show is disgusting.
This board is going to get in trouble if this rampant sharing continues.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: TheLastOfMyKind on April 26, 2012, 05:50:41 AM
I would love it if some one gave me a tylenol PM... Im having trouble sleeping and need some good tunes to fall asleep to.  I woIuld be most appreciative if someone would help me out.  Thank you very,much


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Autotune on April 26, 2012, 05:53:18 AM
I'll say it again:
Brian's live vocals have been poor from day 1.
Only in ONE short tour they reached professional standards consistently, Fall 2009 (that's what we're told, I wasn't there and there are no youtubes of it). Other than that, you get the occasional good lead (Grammy GV, destroyed on the TV mix), next to the most out-of-tune/tempo vocal you can imagine.

I always wonder why fans that seem to have such a sophisticated and sensitive ear in order to detect autotune on a Beach Boy fart, seem to be indifferent to the hundreds of poor live vocals from Brian delivered -and taped- during the last decade. Check YOUTUBE, dammit, it's full of them. (I know the reason, actually: they love him and don't care... and anyway most of them can't tell a pitch corrector from a vacuum cleaner).

Add to this his extremely bizarre and indifferent demeanor (check out the TNT tribute from 10 years ago... look the way he acts/reacts when his daughters give him flowers, for instance)  that all reviews seem to have noticed.

He has recorded some of his best studio vocals in recent years. He can be an EXTRAORDINARY studio singer. He has the voice, the character, the expression, the genius for it. On stage, other factors enter... I see nothing wrong with trying to diminish damages, and trying to show in the best possible vein the guy the world will be looking at.

In this context, it makes sense that they added two shows before the first major gig they announced (Jazz Fest), as a warm-up. If Brian rises up to the occasion, then that's wonderful. And if special trickery is used to make up for his shortcomings, it's ok with me. I wouldn't want to have to explain to the people near me why he can't carry his own tunes.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: AndrewHickey on April 26, 2012, 06:01:33 AM
I would love it if some one gave me a tylenol PM... Im having trouble sleeping and need some good tunes to fall asleep to.  I woIuld be most appreciative if someone would help me out.  Thank you very,much

Just a tip -- people use private messages because they want to keep something private.  This would be rendered useless if just signing up for an anonymous account on the board immediately got you access to this private information. That's not because anyone wants to keep any illegal recordings (should they exist) from people who love the band, but because they don't want to get the people who recorded and uploaded such recordings, or the people who run the board, into trouble.

As for all the other people saying "PM Me!", this is not a criticism because I did the exact same thing myself, but here are enough people talking about this recording that it would probably be a better strategy to send a private message to one of them rather than clogging up the messages...


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on April 26, 2012, 06:03:19 AM
I'll say it again:
Brian's live vocals have been poor from day 1.
Only in ONE short tour they reached professional standards consistently, Fall 2009 (that's what we're told, I wasn't there and there are no youtubes of it). Other than that, you get the occasional good lead (Grammy GV, destroyed on the TV mix), next to the most out-of-tune/tempo vocal you can imagine.

I always wonder why fans that seem to have such a sophisticated and sensitive ear in order to detect autotune on a Beach Boy fart, seem to be indifferent to the hundreds of poor live vocals from Brian delivered -and taped- during the last decade. Check YOUTUBE, dammit, it's full of them. (I know the reason, actually: they love him and don't care... and anyway most of them can't tell a pitch corrector from a vacuum cleaner).

Add to this his extremely bizarre and indifferent demeanor (check out the TNT tribute from 10 years ago... look the way he acts/reacts when his daughters give him flowers, for instance)  that all reviews seem to have noticed.

He has recorded some of his best studio vocals in recent years. He can be an EXTRAORDINARY studio singer. He has the voice, the character, the expression, the genius for it. On stage, other factors enter... I see nothing wrong with trying to diminish damages, and trying to show in the best possible vein the guy the world will be looking at.

In this context, it makes sense that they added two shows before the first major gig they announced (Jazz Fest), as a warm-up. If Brian rises up to the occasion, then that's wonderful. And if special trickery is used to make up for his shortcomings, it's ok with me. I wouldn't want to have to explain to the people near me why he can't carry his own tunes.

Well said Dr. Lenny, I am feeling the same about these issues.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: GoofyJeff on April 26, 2012, 06:25:48 AM
Did I really just wade through at least 3 pages of almost nothing but PM requests?  For the love of the God that made the radio, people... That was fugging annoying as hell. Use the PM feature to PM people. Don't clog up the whole friggin board with PM requests!

And those of you who signed up just to post "PM me please!!"  ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

</rant>


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Jarethon on April 26, 2012, 06:30:25 AM
If I knew for sure who was holding and willing, I would approach them. But since I don't...

PM please?

And also notice this is not my first post. Barely.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Autotune on April 26, 2012, 06:35:41 AM
If I knew for sure who was holding and willing, I would approach them. But since I don't...

PM please?

And also notice this is not my first post. Barely.

Couldn't you PM someone in the first place, and saving the rest of the world from reading a thread with 500 PM requests?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: GoofyJeff on April 26, 2012, 06:46:11 AM
Jarethon, I don't mean to call you out but if you don't know who to PM, pick somebody who's talking about it and ask. Chances are they'll either help ya out or are looking for it also.

Seriously people, I'd hate to see this board shut down because some folks don't know how to use the PRIVATE message feature...


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: ohthosegirls on April 26, 2012, 06:48:54 AM
Got a little choked up during Forever there. That auto-tune is pretty funky sounding. I hope it's gone by the time they hit my town, but something tells me Brian wants it. He's probably fascinated by the idea. If this is just for that show, I would be happy it happened because now I can say I've heard everything! Even Robo-Brian!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Eireannach on April 26, 2012, 06:51:18 AM
people signing up for the board just so people can PM them recordings for this show is disgusting.
Should be 200 post minimum

No, I think 700 posts. ;)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: JohnMill on April 26, 2012, 06:53:20 AM
Jarethon, I don't mean to call you out but if you don't know who to PM, pick somebody who's talking about it and ask. Chances are they'll either help ya out or are looking for it also.

Seriously people, I'd hate to see this board shut down because some folks don't know how to use the PRIVATE message feature...

I could see it becoming a problem as well especially if people start turning up wanting links to offsite sources for audio.  Maybe there will have to be a modification of the rules as far as implicitly stating that people should not openly even ask to be PM'd on the main forum when it comes to matters like this.  It was never an issue before but that is something for the moderators to debate and decide how they want to handle it because this is a trend likely to continue.

For the record, people making the argument that the "PM request parade" damaged their reading experience really crack me up.  The things people argue about and the new ways they find to argue about them.  All the information one would need to know in this thread can actually be found within the first couple of pages.  Pictures, setlists, reviews, reactions from people who were actually there.  Beyond that you have the same 2nd hand reactions and nitpicking from fans and the aforementioned requests for audio.  This is to be expected isn't it?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Stegibo on April 26, 2012, 07:04:23 AM
Funny how some ppl say they can't hear any autotune or what else it is. Brian's voice sounds like it comes straight through some computer or vocoder. No other voice sounds like that. Just listen to the bridge of Surfer Girl, it sounds awful... or H&V.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: b00ts on April 26, 2012, 07:25:42 AM
people signing up for the board just so people can PM them recordings for this show is disgusting.
This board is going to get in trouble if this rampant sharing continues.
People signing up so that people can PM them (non-soundboard, non-professional quality) recordings is "disgusting??" Hyperbole much?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: acedecade75 on April 26, 2012, 07:29:00 AM
 Would it be possible to just put together an email mailing list in case somebody wanted to share something with the whole community?  It might simplify things.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Paul J B on April 26, 2012, 07:31:44 AM
Before everyone goes off the deep end on this autotune thing. SonaraDick mentioned Brian was walking with a limp and needed assistance. It was also SonoraDick or Justin or someone that was at the sound check (I can't find the Quote) that said Brian sounded AWFUL at the soundcheck, but was fine during the show. I would GUESS Brian was not in great form that day, and IF his voice was enhanced, that does not mean that it will be on a regular basis or that the whole tour is ruined. How many people that witnessed the show live have said that Brian's voice was enhanced? Or is it just everyone listening to a crummy recording after the fact?

How about let's wait until a few more gigs are in the can before having a complete meltdown.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on April 26, 2012, 07:39:27 AM
people signing up for the board just so people can PM them recordings for this show is disgusting.
This board is going to get in trouble if this rampant sharing continues.
People signing up so that people can PM them (non-soundboard, non-professional quality) recordings is "disgusting??" Hyperbole much?
I'm just worried because this board is watched.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: JohnMill on April 26, 2012, 07:55:20 AM
people signing up for the board just so people can PM them recordings for this show is disgusting.
This board is going to get in trouble if this rampant sharing continues.
People signing up so that people can PM them (non-soundboard, non-professional quality) recordings is "disgusting??" Hyperbole much?
I'm just worried because this board is watched.

It is what it is though at this point isn't it?  I personally think the mods have done a great job drawing the line in the sand as to what is allowed and what isn't while still being sympathetic to the network of fans that are interested in pursuing recordings outside what one can find at their local cd emporium.  If those who hold the copyright on the recordings want to go further than that well there is really nothing that we as a fanbase can do.  It is what it is so you don't personally need to make it your burden to worry about it.  There will always be places to discuss The Beach Boys whether it's here or somewhere else and I'm going to make a wild guess here but if the file sharing thing gets out of control here, the mods will put a stop to it before anyone else does.  It's neither yours nor my burden to bear.





Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: drbeachboy on April 26, 2012, 07:59:11 AM
Personally, I don't care about autotune, no autotune, whatever. This thread is giving me a buzz-kill. I ain't letting it destroy my expectation of the 2 shows that I'm goung to attend over the next two months.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Yorick on April 26, 2012, 08:05:20 AM
There is NO doubt that pitch correction is being used on just Brian's voice and it's disgusting! I'm not one who always regocnises pitch correction easily when it has been done tastfully, but I've worked with it and I know what it CAN sound like when used lazily, like you would in a live setting where there would be no time to tweak it and you would just have to put it on to a certain amount. It's heartbreaking to hear Brian sing tuned leads like this, especially the sunny snuff bit in H&V... I Wonder how they came to use this safety net just for Brian, someone should have made a point out of it while preparing for the show or even agreeing to do the gigs.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Ron on April 26, 2012, 08:05:31 AM
Funny how some ppl say they can't hear any autotune or what else it is. Brian's voice sounds like it comes straight through some computer or vocoder.


What are you listening to this on?  LOL  


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: MarcellaHasDirtyFeet on April 26, 2012, 08:14:20 AM
Sorry about my request, the last thing I want is to jeopardize the future of this board. :-[  It is my favorite place on the Internet/in the real world.

But seriously, some of the hardcore posters are intimidating as hell, and PMs out of the blue to some of these super-fans seem... intrusive and obnoxious. Then again, so is asking for it in threads.

Just want to say thank you to everybody for all of your opinions, facts, impressions, and willingness to share the BB love with complete strangers. I can't wait for my turn at a live show, I know I'll cry at some point (Forever). And I'll be excited to come here right afterward and post with a Beach Boys concert experience under my belt.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Ron on April 26, 2012, 08:16:13 AM
Don't be intimidated man, we all wake up and put our clothes on one leg at a time like you do.  Except for Andrew Doe.  He has this elaborate setup where his pants are hanging on suspenders, and a machine lifts him up into them.  Outside of that, we all put our pants on one leg at a time.  :)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: JohnMill on April 26, 2012, 08:19:11 AM

But seriously, some of the hardcore posters are intimidating as hell, and PMs out of the blue to some of these super-fans seem... intrusive and obnoxious. Then again, so is asking for it in threads.


I can understand where you are coming from but it is a fallacy though.  Most people here are "big teddy bears"  ;) when you get down to it even if outwardly it doesn't seem like it.  The one thing that I would advise is that you have built at least a reputation for being a contributor to the forum before randomly PM'ing people for stuff.  This is as much of a courtesy to the forum as it is making sure that you aren't someone looking to exploit the goodwill of the members of the forum.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: pmb on April 26, 2012, 08:21:21 AM
I guess one way of looking at the auto-tune on Brian is at least it is still live - perhaps not ideal, but live.

You'd be surprised, I do know of at least one well-known artist who clear lip-synches every single one of his concerts - now that really is something to be angry about, that really is being cheated to another level

Excellent setlist, and I'm really hoping that they are UK bound at some point soon!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Ron on April 26, 2012, 08:25:19 AM
When I was a kid I remember seeing Michael Jackson lip syncing.  I thought it was so weird, then my dad explained to me that he dances so hard that he's probably winded constantly, and can't sing, AND dance.  So then I saw it as something cool.  Hell this guy works so hard he can't hardly talk, so he has to play a record so he can blow you away with his dancing!!! I thought it was awesome.  Then everybody started doing it and it got kind of lazy.

Even weirder is what a lot of rappers do.  They just play the single, then rap OVER it.  So everything's double tracked.  So strange to hear that. 


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: sheknowsmetoowell on April 26, 2012, 08:34:27 AM
Audio of God Only Knows and TWGMTR


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rA46mECuM0


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Ron on April 26, 2012, 08:43:44 AM
It sounds pretty good for a concert!  Needs more Taylor, though.  LOL


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: amonomous on April 26, 2012, 08:45:54 AM
I've never and will never understand people who go on forums (or anywhere for that matter) and brag and talk about what they have that everyone else wants. That's no fun. If I have something and can find anyone who loves the Beach Boys as much as me, I'm ecstatic to share, it's the people who couldn't care less but expect me to fall all over myself for their favorite James Blunt song or whatever that really bug me.. certainly not the ones who *want* to know more/hear more Beach Boys. /my little rant.

Don't take it personally amonomous, I'll try to explain for you.  

1.  Record companies don't like having copies of live shows floating around, ESPECIALLY if  they may release a cd/dvd of this tour in the near future.  The reason they don't like having the copies floating around, is because they feel it will hurt ticket sales if you can hear what happens at the show for free.  That's their opinion, whether or not it's valid can be argued both ways.

2.  In extreme instances, if a forum such as this one consistantly is posting material that is technically illegal (like a live concert recording)... the owners of that copyrighted material could do all kinds of nasty things, up to and including shutting down the site, or even bringing a lawsuit (that they may or may not win) against the OWNER of the forum.

3.  Capitol Records has people that read this board daily.  It's pretty much the biggest Beach Boys message board on the internet.

So as you can see, it's very important to the owner of this site that illegal concert recordings not be published here, even if it's just a link.  You may not agree that it's illegal or that it hurts sales or whatever, but Capitol Records holds all the cards and can make things very tough for the site owners if they wanted to be jerks about it.  

Agreed and understood, that was what prompted my rant, the fact that I tried to be discrete earlier and observe the etiquette but noticed everyone outright discussing it and asking for it publicly. Believe me, I understand.. :/


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Heysaboda on April 26, 2012, 08:51:49 AM
Funny how some ppl say they can't hear any autotune or what else it is. Brian's voice sounds like it comes straight through some computer or vocoder.


What are you listening to this on?  LOL  

a glass of Merlot and a little weed

What are you on?  LOL

(sorry, the devil made me do it)

 :hat


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Ron on April 26, 2012, 08:57:30 AM
Funny how some ppl say they can't hear any autotune or what else it is. Brian's voice sounds like it comes straight through some computer or vocoder.


What are you listening to this on?  LOL  

a glass of Merlot and a little weed

What are you on?  LOL

(sorry, the devil made me do it)

 :hat

LOL I'm on Diet Pepsi, my vice of choice.  Merlot sounds good though, but only because of the way the 'low' is pronounced.  I just thought it was funny you were complaining Brian's voice sounded like it was coming through a computer.... while you were listening to it on your computer.  LOL


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: PongHit on April 26, 2012, 09:00:58 AM
Brian's voice sounds like it comes straight through some computer or vocoder.

Why not? Brian embraced the Theremin, then later, Moogs and other synths. It's their cool new/retro Cyberpunk-sound. I like Robo-Brian:

(http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/jazzrobot.jpg)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on April 26, 2012, 09:07:59 AM
 :lol


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: pixletwin on April 26, 2012, 09:17:58 AM
Oh man. Al getting attacked by a goat in one thread and Robo-Brian in another. This day just can't get any better.  :lol


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on April 26, 2012, 09:20:24 AM
Brian's voice sounds like it comes straight through some computer or vocoder.

Why not? Brian embraced the Theremin, then later, Moogs and other synths. It's their cool new/retro Cyberpunk-sound. I like Robo-Brian:

(http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/jazzrobot.jpg)
Does robo-Brian sing 1964 style falsetto. ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SG7 on April 26, 2012, 09:20:56 AM
Oh man. Al getting attacked by a goat in one thread and Robo-Brian in another. This day just can't get any better.  :lol

I thought the goat was high fiving Al  :lol


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: pixletwin on April 26, 2012, 09:21:53 AM
Oh man. Al getting attacked by a goat in one thread and Robo-Brian in another. This day just can't get any better.  :lol

I thought the goat was high fiving Al  :lol

Even better!  :lol


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on April 26, 2012, 09:22:03 AM
Does robo-Brian sing 1964 style falsetto. ;D
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Haha. If that was the trade off, I might be willing to accept Robo Brian.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: desmondo on April 26, 2012, 09:48:48 AM
Sling me a PM anyone?

Ta!

J

The Prime Minister is a little chaps in striped trousers


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: CoolWater on April 26, 2012, 09:50:35 AM
I'm a long time lurker on the board, but I don't Post Much. I'd be oh-so-appreciative if someone would Pity Me, and drop me a line andPlease Message me.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: amonomous on April 26, 2012, 10:00:03 AM
Some thoughts: digging the huge drums on "Forever" (and the whole rendition in general, I absolutely love it) but found Mike's intro of Dennis as "uh..Brian's brother Dennis.." as opposed to "my cousin Dennis" or simply "Dennis" a bit strange but that's really nitpicking :p

Brian does indeed have WAY too much pitch correction on his vocals and I pray they are recording a dry signal of his performances without these effects so the historical record of this period of the band isn't compromised forever like some people have said. As another person said last night, they're really lucky the press didn't jump all over that (kind of like the, was it GMA? performance a while back where "the beach boys lip synch" accusations were making the news, though of course they weren't) :/ Also, the parts that really made me cringe were when he'd hold notes like we never thought he'd be able to do again at one point, sounding absolutely FINE and on point, inspired even...but the damn autotune goes off tune in the middle of his note the way a guitar synthesizer will "croak" in the middle of notes like a kid going through puberty. Its infuriating because you can hear him singing and belting very well behind* the effects but the effects themselves make it sound bizarre. I did find someone's "B-Pain" nickname quite amusing though. :p I really hope they don't do that to his voice when I see them, I've never seen Brian, only Mike&Bruce and I'm really looking forward to seeing him perform.

"Don't Back Down"  :o

Mike sounds really good, pretty much how he sounded when I saw him over a decade ago, now why he almost never sounds like that for tv performances I don't quite understand but it's like trying to convince people that Axl Rose sounded really good when I saw him in `06, everyone remembers that awful VMA performance from.. 2002 I think it was? That stigma never went away. My older brother appreciates the Beach Boys but he, to this day, thinks the "Beach Boys suck live" because of that damned Full House performance of Kokomo and Barbara Ann. I can't wait to see his reaction (he's going too) to the way they actually sound live.

I have so much more to say on this but don't have the times etc to reference things but I'll post this anyway since I made a start at it  8) Really I'm very pleased with the presentation..I've never cared if they had a surfboard on stage etc, they're the Beach Boys, it would be weird if they DIDN'T have hawaiin shirts and yellow or white trousers and such, that's the band, quirks and all that I've loved since childhood and grew up watching and that's who I want to see live, not some revamped cool and hip version for the kids who only listen to Pet Sounds/SMiLE and expect to see 5 clones of Dennis in his prime on stage or something..I really don't know what a lot of these people expect or want, but it sure doesn't sound like they really want the actual band at times..speaking more in terms of youtubers here lol

They seem to have found a great balance that works for the lineup they have and also found a way to present this as something truly special with class and still keep it feeling like a proper Beach Boys show with excitement and energy as opposed to what some of us were fearing I think: That this would be akin to some of the more recent Monkees performances where they basically just stand up front with mics and phone it in in the most vegas-y, cheesy way possible while anonymous people play the music. I love the Monkees too but have never felt compelled to see them live for that very reason. This feels like 5 legends (and yes a small army of friends) showing the world they still have it and can PERFORM these songs, as opposed to a glorified karaoke show. I'm loving this and I can't help but think "it's too bad they couldn't have done this earlier" but better late than never and I'm happy with nearly everything about this other than the autotune on Brian (at times it sounds as though he's holding back or fighting his delivery to keep the damned thing from glitching mid-note, like he's having to adapt his perfectly good, natural delivery to suit the machine as opposed to the other way around..does that make sense or stand out to anyone else?) and I especially love the Dennis and Carl tributes.

Oh my.. The wonders (or horrors) of touch-typing. :p


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: desmondo on April 26, 2012, 10:01:30 AM
Listening to that UTube link - none of the main vocals are exactly on it and the drumming is a little over the top IMHO



Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Jarethon on April 26, 2012, 10:12:15 AM

But seriously, some of the hardcore posters are intimidating as hell, and PMs out of the blue to some of these super-fans seem... intrusive and obnoxious. Then again, so is asking for it in threads.


I can understand where you are coming from but it is a fallacy though.  Most people here are "big teddy bears"  ;) when you get down to it even if outwardly it doesn't seem like it.  The one thing that I would advise is that you have built at least a reputation for being a contributor to the forum before randomly PM'ing people for stuff.  This is as much of a courtesy to the forum as it is making sure that you aren't someone looking to exploit the goodwill of the members rdregof the forum.

This is my quandary and why I didn't pick a random name to PM. I don't post much and never will. I read the board regularly because I love the band and I enjoy the discussions, but I rarely feel the need to post. I hardly see why the number of posts should influence a fellow fan in asking to hear something everyone is already talking about.

And in my opinion, goodwill only applies to the source. If everyone else here is so concerned about secrecy or pissed off at all the requests, why talk about it at all? As I said before, I come here for the news and conversation, not the sweet hook-ups. Trust me, I would much rather get it from one of those evil sites-that-shall-not-be-named than trying to get in good with the cool kids.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: filledeplage on April 26, 2012, 10:20:37 AM
Audio of God Only Knows and TWGMTR


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rA46mECuM0

Great to include Carl's vocals...He is still an indispensable force in the band.  :)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Heysaboda on April 26, 2012, 10:24:47 AM

Tis true. Lots of people also can do it competently. Maybe they'll cut it out. I am just honestly stunned they did it here.

Eh. It's the competent part I care about. If they can do it well and subtly, fine. If not, boot it.

Argh. I enjoy your posts, don't think I'm attacking you, but why even condone it being done subtly? Autotune has absolutely no place in a f*cking live show. None. It's as if they read fan concern over Jeff doubling Brian and thought autotuning him into oblivion would be acceptable as hay, it's still Brian.

I hate to rant about something as great as a Beach Boys reunion tour, but autotune just has no place in live performances, especially by a band like the Beach Boys. At his absolute worst of live performances of the last ten years or so, he's still sounded passable, and it's never been "bad" for an entire performance (that I've seen). This whole "Brian clearly can't sing, we have to ensure that it sounds like he's still as good as he was in '65" sentiment from his camp needs to end already - it's a huge slap in the face to Brian's talents, Brian as a human being, and fans who pay for these tickets and recordings.

WHAT HE SAID


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Heysaboda on April 26, 2012, 10:26:56 AM
Are we sure its autotune? Backing tape maybe? Some new technology?
He started late on some songs and was filled in on in some places.


This guy told me it's autotune

(http://i49.tinypic.com/2ni9s12.jpg)

IS THIS JEFF FOSKETT?

 >:D

 :ninja


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: endofposts on April 26, 2012, 10:35:40 AM
Has anyone posted on the Blueboard about the autotune thing sounding bad?  It wouldn't be cool to say a person heard it on a circulating illegal live recording, but you'd think someone who went to the show (or heard the show and can pretend they were there) might mention it.  Even if the comment on Brian's board winds up being deleted, it would be doing him a favor to point out that it sounds bad and they're not fooling anyone.  It's like a lady having her slip or bra strap showing, most appreciate it if it's pointed out and will do something about it.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on April 26, 2012, 10:39:00 AM
Are we sure its autotune? Backing tape maybe? Some new technology?
He started late on some songs and was filled in on in some places.


This guy told me it's autotune

(http://i49.tinypic.com/2ni9s12.jpg)

IS THIS JEFF FOSKETT?

 >:D

 :ninja

Haha. No but I wouldn't mind if T-Pain paid Foskett's mic a visit. "Don't Back Down"? Eeeek  :-\


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Smilin Ed H on April 26, 2012, 10:46:57 AM
Funny how everyone's suddenly an expert on autotune.



Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Heysaboda on April 26, 2012, 10:53:52 AM
Quote
Wait: I thought this board was full of pro-tools experts who know what 'autotune' is and what setting to set it on, and they had all agreed that it was auto-tuned, in a live setting, on only 1 microphone.  

NOW YOU'RE TELLING ME MAYBE THEY DONT KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT?Huh??

I thought it was there until I listened to the recording. Listen to Mike's speaking parts, they sound the same as Brian's singing parts. It was recorded on an iPhone for Wilson's sake.

I imagine it's something like that, I just couldn't resist the opportunity to poke a little fun at all the autotune nerds. 

You know what I saw at the mall today?  Autotune.

You know what I saw when I made breakfast this morning?  Autotune.

You know what I saw when I took my clothes out of the dryer?  Autotune.

When I looked in the closet you know what I saw?   ....  No Autotune.... but when I turned around

HE WAS RIGHT BEHHHINNNNNDDD MEEEEE

I am pretty sure there was Autotune in my coffee this morning and I am not imagining this..

And and can I have a PMS?

 :hat


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: endofposts on April 26, 2012, 10:55:27 AM
Funny how everyone's suddenly an expert on autotune.



It's not hard to tell.  I'm not sure why people even use it that much anymore because it's not something that fools most people.  


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on April 26, 2012, 10:55:57 AM
Quote
Wait: I thought this board was full of pro-tools experts who know what 'autotune' is and what setting to set it on, and they had all agreed that it was auto-tuned, in a live setting, on only 1 microphone.  

NOW YOU'RE TELLING ME MAYBE THEY DONT KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT?Huh??

I thought it was there until I listened to the recording. Listen to Mike's speaking parts, they sound the same as Brian's singing parts. It was recorded on an iPhone for Wilson's sake.

I imagine it's something like that, I just couldn't resist the opportunity to poke a little fun at all the autotune nerds. 

You know what I saw at the mall today?  Autotune.

You know what I saw when I made breakfast this morning?  Autotune.

You know what I saw when I took my clothes out of the dryer?  Autotune.

When I looked in the closet you know what I saw?   ....  No Autotune.... but when I turned around

HE WAS RIGHT BEHHHINNNNNDDD MEEEEE

I am pretty sure there was Autotune in my coffee this morning and I am not imagining this..

And and can I have a PMS?

 :hat
I swear my college roomate's snoring is autotuned. ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Paulos on April 26, 2012, 11:15:16 AM
Oh my, there's a lot of sandy vaginas and twisted titties out there at the moment isn't there? Between autotune rages and rants against new members daring to ask for PM's you would almost forget that this is one of the greatest times ever to be a Beach Boys fan, lighten the heck up people!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Ron on April 26, 2012, 11:20:41 AM
Oh my, there's a lot of sandy vaginas and twisted titties out there at the moment isn't there? Between autotune rages and rants against new members daring to ask for PM's you would almost forget that this is one of the greatest times ever to be a Beach Boys fan, lighten the heck up people!

Hear Hear! Buy this man a drink.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Paulos on April 26, 2012, 11:25:02 AM
Oh my, there's a lot of sandy vaginas and twisted titties out there at the moment isn't there? Between autotune rages and rants against new members daring to ask for PM's you would almost forget that this is one of the greatest times ever to be a Beach Boys fan, lighten the heck up people!

Hear Hear! Buy this man a drink.

A White Russian would be most appreciated.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: CarlTheVoice on April 26, 2012, 11:33:33 AM
Apologies if this has already been posted but I just found it on youtube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rA46mECuM0


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: myonlysunshine on April 26, 2012, 11:42:56 AM
My friend was sitting in the seventh row last night. I told him about what's happening on this board, all the talk about Brian being autotuned, and he told me he did not notice anything going on with Brian's vocals from where he was sitting. He thought Surfer Girl sounded fantastic, and sounded shocked when I told him that there's accusations that autotune might have been used on Brian's voice. :-\


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Shady on April 26, 2012, 11:47:22 AM
TWGMTR is the most obvious instance of Robo-Brian


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Runaways on April 26, 2012, 12:01:49 PM
TWGMTR is the most obvious instance of Robo-Brian

Bw88 disagrees


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on April 26, 2012, 12:03:48 PM
Apologies if this has already been posted but I just found it on youtube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rA46mECuM0
.

One good thing about Robo-Brian is that he's pretty easy to detect in the backing vocals

"Bah bah bah bah bah bahhhh bah bahhhh bah bah bahhhhh bah bah"


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: PongHit on April 26, 2012, 12:07:27 PM

Even though I coined the term "Robo-Brian," maybe we need something more creative. "The Robrian"? "The BriBot2012"?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Eireannach on April 26, 2012, 12:08:32 PM
A White Russian would be most appreciated.

"You mix a hell of a Caucasian, Jackie."


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: b00ts on April 26, 2012, 12:13:07 PM
TWGMTR is the most obvious instance of Robo-Brian
I've got to be honest, I am a big autotune hater and I hear it everywhere daily (commercials, songs, etc), but I don't notice it in the Youtube video - Brian makes some flubs and mistakes that are audible. I do notice Jeff doubling him, and perhaps they fed the autotune and Brian's live signal at alternating levels...


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on April 26, 2012, 12:15:57 PM

Even though I coined the term "Robo-Brian," maybe we need something more creative. "The Robrian"? "The BriBot2012"?

B-Pain son


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: stack-o-tracks on April 26, 2012, 12:16:23 PM

Even though I coined the term "Robo-Brian," maybe we need something more creative. "The Robrian"? "The BriBot2012"?

I think B-Pain is a pretty good one. Though I have reason to believe there was no pitch correction being used on Brian's vocals and it's simply distortion from the frequencies of his voice being recorded on a cellphone.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: myonlysunshine on April 26, 2012, 12:21:15 PM
From that Youtube video, I'm just not noticing it guys. :-\ I hear what can be described as an echo coming after Brian's vocals, but I have no idea whether that is definitively autotune, Jeff doubling his parts, or just distortion coming from the equipment.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Stegibo on April 26, 2012, 12:22:39 PM

Even though I coined the term "Robo-Brian," maybe we need something more creative. "The Robrian"? "The BriBot2012"?

I think B-Pain is a pretty good one. Though I have reason to believe there was no pitch correction being used on Brian's vocals and it's simply distortion from the frequencies of his voice being recorded on a cellphone.
I really hope that`s the case!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on April 26, 2012, 12:23:00 PM

Even though I coined the term "Robo-Brian," maybe we need something more creative. "The Robrian"? "The BriBot2012"?

I think B-Pain is a pretty good one. Though I have reason to believe there was no pitch correction being used on Brian's vocals and it's simply distortion from the frequencies of his voice being recorded on a cellphone.

Not to beat it into the ground (oops too late!) There is most definitely autotune (or a pitch correction effect of some sort) on Brian's vocal. I deal with pitch correction day in and day out, and I'd put it on anything that this is more than just an opinion.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: endofposts on April 26, 2012, 12:25:25 PM
Oh my, there's a lot of sandy vaginas and twisted titties out there at the moment isn't there? Between autotune rages and rants against new members daring to ask for PM's you would almost forget that this is one of the greatest times ever to be a Beach Boys fan, lighten the heck up people!

No, more like limp dicks and masticated balls.




Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: anazgnos on April 26, 2012, 12:26:06 PM

Even though I coined the term "Robo-Brian,"

Aw hell no you didn't son (http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,12772.msg265990.html#msg265990)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Paulos on April 26, 2012, 12:27:11 PM
I'm quite amazed that people can hear autotune on that low grade recording, there seems to be a lot of people on this board with a canine/superhero level hearing ability.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater, Tucson, AZ 4/24/12
Post by: NHC on April 26, 2012, 12:27:38 PM
This is awesome!! My wife is telling me I am looking giddy! I am so there for the show at the Woodlands!

Cynthia Mitchell Pavilion? I have a friend attending that one.  


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: endofposts on April 26, 2012, 12:38:26 PM
It sounds oddly like the record.  Hearing that "video" doesn't make me want to go to a reunion show.  I'd rather go see a bill of the Mike and Bruce Show, Al Jardine Family & Friends, & the Brian Wilson Band, and have them all meet at the encore only. 


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Mikie on April 26, 2012, 12:49:58 PM
Oh my, there's a lot of sandy vaginas and twisted titties out there at the moment isn't there?

I saw a sandy vagina at the beach once.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Paulos on April 26, 2012, 12:53:09 PM
Oh my, there's a lot of sandy vaginas and twisted titties out there at the moment isn't there?

I saw a sandy vagina at the beach once.

 ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: sheknowsmetoowell on April 26, 2012, 12:54:02 PM
http://vimeo.com/41099670


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Aegir on April 26, 2012, 12:56:09 PM
damn, I thought that was a video and I got really excited.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: pixletwin on April 26, 2012, 12:59:52 PM
damn, I thought that was a video and I got really excited.

Me too. :(


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: NatureShowInStereo on April 26, 2012, 01:08:15 PM
Apologies if this has already been posted but I just found it on youtube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rA46mECuM0

Uh oh.... It's... It's a.... a.... B... ba... Bootleg!  :lol   :lol    :lol  

 ::)


Sorry for hatin, it just baffles the crap out of me. So is it okay if it's on YouTube or another video site? What is the line here? Because this is the same thing I was PMed (pretty sure).


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: PongHit on April 26, 2012, 01:19:10 PM
no you didn't

On Monday morning, you can meet with my lawyers. They'll bring a 2x4.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Rob Dean on April 26, 2012, 01:23:39 PM
Oh my, there's a lot of sandy vaginas and twisted titties out there at the moment isn't there?

I saw a sandy vagina at the beach once.


" on the beach you'll find them there , in the salty pubic hair - the girls on the beach are all within reach"

Sorry (especially the ladies here) , lost my head again - time for me to meditate  :angel:

Brit humour again !


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: stack-o-tracks on April 26, 2012, 01:24:51 PM
Oh my, there's a lot of sandy vaginas and twisted titties out there at the moment isn't there?

I saw a sandy vagina at the beach once.


" on the beach you'll find them there , in the salty pubic hair - the girls on the beach are all within reach"

Sorry (especially the ladies here) , lost my head again - time for me to meditate  :angel:

Brit humour again !

Is that a poem about sand crabs?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: freedomaspirer on April 26, 2012, 01:29:09 PM
Loving the sax solo in Kokomo! Not so sure if they'll completely remove autotune, maybe tone it down a bit. I wonder if there'll be setlist changes? Looking forward to seeing what happens over the next few months!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: PongHit on April 26, 2012, 01:31:31 PM
Sorry (especially the ladies here)

Don't worry, there are no females here.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Wirestone on April 26, 2012, 01:31:50 PM
My guess: If there is pitch correction (which I'd still prefer to judge based on more and better sources), they will eventually end up using it on one or two of Brian's leads (the new single, for instance), while turning it down or off elsewhere.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: PongHit on April 26, 2012, 01:32:10 PM
I think B-Pain is a pretty good one.

How 'bout "BW-Pain"?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Domino on April 26, 2012, 01:32:42 PM
Apologies if this has already been posted but I just found it on youtube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rA46mECuM0
.

One good thing about Robo-Brian is that he's pretty easy to detect in the backing vocals

"Bah bah bah bah bah bahhhh bah bahhhh bah bah bahhhhh bah bah"

True! ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SG7 on April 26, 2012, 01:33:09 PM
Sorry (especially the ladies here)

Don't worry, there are no females here.

Cough... cough...


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on April 26, 2012, 01:33:21 PM
Ok, I had to haha....

(http://imageupload.org/thumb/thumb_221751.png) (http://imageupload.org/en/file/221751/robobrian.png.html)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Heysaboda on April 26, 2012, 01:34:22 PM
But maybe, just maybe, it's also possible that maybe a 64kbps AAC recording made through a little tiny crappy microphone just maybe isn't accurate enough to tell what was going on? Anyone who's trying to foment a ruckus here based just on hearing that recording ought to perhaps be quiet and reserve judgement until they can see the show for themselves or at least weight until some higher quality recordings appear.

Encoding to m4a does not create autotune. Audience recordings do not create autotune (regardless of device). It's there, it's one of the most extreme and obvious examples of autotune I've ever heard and it only affects Brian's vocals. If it were the device or encoding to m4a, you'd hear it on Mike's leads, you'd hear it on Carl and Dennis' leads, etc. and it's just not there. I can't understand logic like this, sorry. :\
There is no auto-tune. It has been confirmed.

So, it's been confirmed there's no auto-tuning.  Thank goodness that's over!

 >:D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: PongHit on April 26, 2012, 01:38:27 PM

From BBB………..

Posted on April 25, 2012 at 05:59:21 PM by Bruce Johnston:

"Last night's concert is now behind us and we had a great start. I'm sure we will now be in the 'fine tune' mode."


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on April 26, 2012, 01:39:42 PM

From BBB………..

Posted on April 25, 2012 at 05:59:21 PM by Bruce Johnston:

"Last night's concert is now behind us and we had a great start. I'm sure we will now be in the 'fine tune' mode."

Bruce knows the deal.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Wylson on April 26, 2012, 01:40:24 PM
Absolutely crazy autotuning of Brian's voice. Anyone who can't hear it has terrible hearing.

But...

Plus points...
- Brian does sound strong underneath the autotune
- Mike sounds great
- Al and Bruce get a great harmony sound going in the middle,
- Jeff sounds great on the top
- Backing band as awesome as you would expect


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Aegir on April 26, 2012, 01:42:00 PM
I wish whoever recorded the concert had recorded some of the other songs, like Disney Girls or Help Me Rhonda, so we could get a feel for what the other lead vocals sound like.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Wylson on April 26, 2012, 01:42:32 PM
Oh and Dennis and Carl sounded great  :)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: NatureShowInStereo on April 26, 2012, 01:44:42 PM
It's like how Mike was blatantly autotuned at Knebworth... It drags the DVD down MILES.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Paulos on April 26, 2012, 01:49:07 PM
Absolutely crazy autotuning of Brian's voice. Anyone who can't hear it has terrible hearing.

But...

Plus points...
- Brian does sound strong underneath the autotune
- Mike sounds great
- Al and Bruce get a great harmony sound going in the middle,
- Jeff sounds great on the top
- Backing band as awesome as you would expect

It's not fun to mock the disabled you know.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Wylson on April 26, 2012, 01:53:18 PM
Absolutely crazy autotuning of Brian's voice. Anyone who can't hear it has terrible hearing.

But...

Plus points...
- Brian does sound strong underneath the autotune
- Mike sounds great
- Al and Bruce get a great harmony sound going in the middle,
- Jeff sounds great on the top
- Backing band as awesome as you would expect

It's not fun to mock the disabled you know.

I dunno. Feels pretty fun.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Paulos on April 26, 2012, 02:00:26 PM
Absolutely crazy autotuning of Brian's voice. Anyone who can't hear it has terrible hearing.

But...

Plus points...
- Brian does sound strong underneath the autotune
- Mike sounds great
- Al and Bruce get a great harmony sound going in the middle,
- Jeff sounds great on the top
- Backing band as awesome as you would expect

It's not fun to mock the disabled you know.

I dunno. Feels pretty fun.

 :'(

Seriously though I damaged my hearing at a metal/hardcore gig 6 years ago and I have mild tinnitus, makes it hard for me to pick certain things out.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Wylson on April 26, 2012, 02:02:24 PM
Absolutely crazy autotuning of Brian's voice. Anyone who can't hear it has terrible hearing.

But...

Plus points...
- Brian does sound strong underneath the autotune
- Mike sounds great
- Al and Bruce get a great harmony sound going in the middle,
- Jeff sounds great on the top
- Backing band as awesome as you would expect

It's not fun to mock the disabled you know.

I dunno. Feels pretty fun.

 :'(

Seriously though I damaged my hearing at a metal/hardcore gig 6 years ago and I have mild tinnitus, makes it hard for me to pick certain things out.

Ah ok sorry man. I was just kidding around, not very funny. Sorry.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: PongHit on April 26, 2012, 02:02:55 PM
It's not fun to mock the disabled you know.

Don't worry, there are no females here.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on April 26, 2012, 02:04:32 PM
It's not fun to mock the disabled you know.

Don't worry, there are no females here.

ZING.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on April 26, 2012, 02:04:46 PM
It's like how Mike was blatantly autotuned at Knebworth... It drags the DVD down MILES.

He wasn't autotuned. He simply sounded like crap


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Aegir on April 26, 2012, 02:12:41 PM
Didn't notice it on Knebworth either.

I'm played in lots of loud rock bands for years and only started wearing earplugs about 8 months ago, so my hearing is probably pretty far gone.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: baseball95 on April 26, 2012, 02:29:53 PM
Please i'm a 16 year old who loves the beach  boys and is dying to hear more of this amazing concert. Please PM me i know you guys are tacking issue but i would love to hear the concert. I'm going June 15th in MD but would love to ehar the sound now.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: LostArt on April 26, 2012, 02:37:06 PM
I'm laughing my ass off about idiots here thinking they can hear auto-tune on a recording like this.  Meanwhile, EVERYBODY that was at the show says that it didn't sound like that.  EVERYBODY!   :lol  :lol  :lol  :lol  :lol


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on April 26, 2012, 02:37:34 PM
Didn't notice it on Knebworth either.

I'm played in lots of loud rock bands for years and only started wearing earplugs about 8 months ago, so my hearing is probably pretty far gone.


That's because autotune was not present. This was 1980. Autotune (Antares Vocal Processor) wasn't around until 1997.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: CarlTheVoice on April 26, 2012, 02:38:34 PM
Interesting regarding the Bruce comment, I hadn't even noticed that. If Brian was autotuned and others are commenting on it is it likely that they are not entirely happy about it? Whatever the story I just hope we enjoy the tour, they enjoy it and they finish it on a high!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: myonlysunshine on April 26, 2012, 02:41:33 PM
http://vimeo.com/41099670

OK, after viewing that video, I can hear it much more clearly now. My bad. Color me disappointed. :-\

But that leaves the question as to why some people at the concert didn't hear what we are hearing.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SG7 on April 26, 2012, 02:43:24 PM
Interesting regarding the Bruce comment, I hadn't even noticed that. If Brian was autotuned and others are commenting on it is it likely that they are not entirely happy about it? Whatever the story I just hope we enjoy the tour, they enjoy it and they finish it on a high!

Always something with these guys!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on April 26, 2012, 02:44:29 PM
http://vimeo.com/41099670

OK, after viewing that video, I can hear it much more clearly now. My bad. Color me disappointed. :-\

But that leaves the question as to why some people at the concert didn't hear what we are hearing.

There's something about being at a live show that minimizes holes in the performance.

I'm sure some people heard it, but probably aren't active on these message boards.

I envy everyone who says they can't hear it.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: pmb on April 26, 2012, 02:46:10 PM
Didn't notice it on Knebworth either.

I'm played in lots of loud rock bands for years and only started wearing earplugs about 8 months ago, so my hearing is probably pretty far gone.

That's because autotune was not present. This was 1980. Autotune (Antares Vocal Processor) wasn't around until 1997.

Think with regards to Knebworth, on the DVD version around today, Mike's voice has definetly been enhanced - live it won't have been as you say, but for the version we see of the concert, there has been some work.

For anyone who can't hear it at the AZ concert, listen to the Surfer Girl Brian-solo mid section, on the second "I.... would take you" - the pitch on the I fluctuates from perfect to zero, whereas normally in concert it would go a note or two down.

But having said that, it really does not matter, it's just great to see them performing live together again and doing a great job.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 26, 2012, 02:46:43 PM
I'm laughing my ass off about idiots here thinking they can hear auto-tune on a recording like this.  Meanwhile, EVERYBODY that was at the show says that it didn't sound like that.  EVERYBODY!   :lol  :lol  :lol  :lol  :lol

All it takes is ears, d00d. Clear as day on Brian's voice. An audience recording on any device is not just gonna magically create what sounds like autotune on only Brian's voice.

Also, one person said they didn't hear it - not "EVERYBODY! LOLOLOLOL"


That's because autotune was not present. This was 1980. Autotune (Antares Vocal Processor) wasn't around until 1997.

The mix was done after 1980. There is hella autotune on Mike on the show, so much so that he sounds pretty hilarious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFF8TRflBRA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFF8TRflBRA) go to 17:10

Hear how his voice sounds like it "glitches" and skips around a bit note-wise? How he sounds like a robot? "WHEEHHEHEEHENNNN SOOMMEEEE LLOOUDOUDDD BRARANGNGNGRRNGNGR TRRAHHSHHSS TOOO PUUPUTTTUTUTUT YOU DOOOWOWNONWOWNOWNN"?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 26, 2012, 02:49:03 PM
For anyone who can't hear it at the AZ concert, listen to the Surfer Girl Brian-solo mid section, on the second "I.... would take you" - the pitch on the I fluctuates from perfect to zero, whereas normally in concert it would go a note or two down.


Probably the spot where it's most clear and obvious, but the whole of "Heroes" is just a mess :\


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: pixletwin on April 26, 2012, 02:50:19 PM
I wonder why Al isn't singing on Heroes? I would prefer to hear him as lead on H&V.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: jimmy1949 on April 26, 2012, 03:11:31 PM
I wish whoever recorded the concert had recorded some of the other songs, like Disney Girls or Help Me Rhonda, so we could get a feel for what the other lead vocals sound like.
wish in one hand and sh#t in the other mate! the guy did his best.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Aegir on April 26, 2012, 03:14:15 PM
I'm thinking he just recorded the songs he wanted to record.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Aegir on April 26, 2012, 03:16:03 PM
OH GOD I NOTICED THE AUTOTUNE! IT'S SO BAD! AHHHHHH


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: The Shift on April 26, 2012, 03:21:43 PM
From what I hear the guy who really needs auto tuned is Mr Foskett.

And no I'm not trying to kick that old chestnut off again...  Just saying.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Aegir on April 26, 2012, 03:23:30 PM
another thing I'm noticing, because I'm separating the tracks into single songs (and therefore listening to the few seconds in between each song multiple times), is that there's a lot of false starts. like, Cowsill I guess will do the count-in and then only like one person will come in so they do the count in again and that's when the song starts.

the band should be paying more attention!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: JohnMill on April 26, 2012, 03:25:32 PM
another thing I'm noticing, because I'm separating the tracks into single songs (and therefore listening to the few seconds in between each song multiple times), is that there's a lot of false starts. like, Cowsill I guess will do the count-in and then only like one person will come in so they do the count in again and that's when the song starts.

the band should be paying more attention!

I thought it was understood that BW comes in late on a lot of stuff live?  I thought that was discussed a bit during the BWPS tour?  Maybe I'm misremembering.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: NatureShowInStereo on April 26, 2012, 03:35:59 PM
Didn't notice it on Knebworth either.

I'm played in lots of loud rock bands for years and only started wearing earplugs about 8 months ago, so my hearing is probably pretty far gone.

That's because autotune was not present. This was 1980. Autotune (Antares Vocal Processor) wasn't around until 1997.

Think with regards to Knebworth, on the DVD version around today, Mike's voice has definetly been enhanced - live it won't have been as you say, but for the version we see of the concert, there has been some work.

For anyone who can't hear it at the AZ concert, listen to the Surfer Girl Brian-solo mid section, on the second "I.... would take you" - the pitch on the I fluctuates from perfect to zero, whereas normally in concert it would go a note or two down.

But having said that, it really does not matter, it's just great to see them performing live together again and doing a great job.


Seriously, it's totally there on the Knebworth DVD. Mike's singing voice sounds horribly digitally altered. I don't like watching that DVD at all because of it.

And I don't know how some of you can't hear Brian's autotune. Not knockin on ya, it's just so obvious to my ears that I don't know how anyone else could miss it.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on April 26, 2012, 03:41:34 PM
I'm laughing my ass off about idiots here thinking they can hear auto-tune on a recording like this.  Meanwhile, EVERYBODY that was at the show says that it didn't sound like that.  EVERYBODY!   :lol  :lol  :lol  :lol  :lol

All it takes is ears, d00d. Clear as day on Brian's voice. An audience recording on any device is not just gonna magically create what sounds like autotune on only Brian's voice.

Also, one person said they didn't hear it - not "EVERYBODY! LOLOLOLOL"


That's because autotune was not present. This was 1980. Autotune (Antares Vocal Processor) wasn't around until 1997.

The mix was done after 1980. There is hella autotune on Mike on the show, so much so that he sounds pretty hilarious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFF8TRflBRA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFF8TRflBRA) go to 17:10

Hear how his voice sounds like it "glitches" and skips around a bit note-wise? How he sounds like a robot? "WHEEHHEHEEHENNNN SOOMMEEEE LLOOUDOUDDD BRARANGNGNGRRNGNGR TRRAHHSHHSS TOOO PUUPUTTTUTUTUT YOU DOOOWOWNONWOWNOWNN"?

You're probably right and I should have realized it was a modern mix. But listening to it, I just hear him sounding like crap and just singing badly. I can't help but think any tweaking of his voice would have actually made him sound better!

Is there any original 1980 mixes or footage we can look at and compare?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: drbeachboy on April 26, 2012, 03:57:35 PM
Absolutely crazy autotuning of Brian's voice. Anyone who can't hear it has terrible hearing.

After reading all this autotune crap today, I feel absolutely blessed to have terrible hearing. I feel bad for you guys, I really do. That you can't just feel joy without bitching about something or another.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: hypehat on April 26, 2012, 04:02:15 PM
Believe me, I  would SO LOVE TO FEEL JOY. And I do. Every time Brian isn't singing  :'(


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: endofposts on April 26, 2012, 04:04:53 PM
Absolutely crazy autotuning of Brian's voice. Anyone who can't hear it has terrible hearing.

After reading all this autotune crap today, I feel absolutely blessed to have terrible hearing. I feel bad for you guys, I really do. That you can't just feel joy without bitching about something or another.

They're not feeling joy.  Or complete joy.  This isn't the Blueboard and people have opinions.  From what I've heard of this reunion so far, I'm not blown away. I'm glad for Al and Dave to have the platform. It's not as good as the Eagles reunion.  I know a lot of people despise the Eagles, but when you hear stuff from the reunited Eagles, it still sounds like the old Eagles.  They may actually sound better and more professional than they did the first time around.  I'd like to see the Beach Boys have an extended sit down where they harmonize with acoustic guitars like the Eagles have done since reuniting.  It would give a better idea of what they actually sound like, even with different voices added to the mix (and no autotune, for anyone, in that setting).  I also wish Brian weren't hiding on the side of the stage behind a big piano.  He should try to get up front a little more, even if it's behind a small keyboard like his solo tours.  I'd just like to see him closer to the other band members.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: LetHimRun on April 26, 2012, 04:09:16 PM
Going by the vimeo audio, it's bad on H&V and especially the new single. Brian's voice is wobbling and jumping everywhere on TWGMTR. I'd rather hear him sing flat or sharp than digitally wobble all over the place.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: drbeachboy on April 26, 2012, 04:10:33 PM
It is a concert for crying out loud. There is some rough singing here and there and Brian has never been great at it over the past 30+ years. If autotune was used at the show, then the person should be shot, because Brian made a few mistakes and it didn't fix any of them that I can hear. I doubt if you are attending a show that you could ever tell if it is being employed. That's what you get for listening to a bootlegged, crappy sounding, iPhone recorded concert. ;)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: NatureShowInStereo on April 26, 2012, 04:19:54 PM
Believe me, I  would SO LOVE TO FEEL JOY. And I do. Every time Brian isn't singing  :'(

lol this.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: 18thofMay on April 26, 2012, 04:21:07 PM
Going by the vimeo audio, it's bad on H&V and especially the new single. Brian's voice is wobbling and jumping everywhere on TWGMTR. I'd rather hear him sing flat or sharp than digitally wobble all over the place.
I really don't no what you are hearing. I can't hear it and the band say's no Autotune was used. I think Brian's vocal is being "ghosted" and they are in tune and when Brian wobbles that is what you hear.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: adavidw on April 26, 2012, 04:23:04 PM
another thing I'm noticing, because I'm separating the tracks into single songs (and therefore listening to the few seconds in between each song multiple times), is that there's a lot of false starts. like, Cowsill I guess will do the count-in and then only like one person will come in so they do the count in again and that's when the song starts.

the band should be paying more attention!

Can you give some examples?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Ron on April 26, 2012, 04:28:05 PM
Interesting regarding the Bruce comment, I hadn't even noticed that. If Brian was autotuned and others are commenting on it is it likely that they are not entirely happy about it? Whatever the story I just hope we enjoy the tour, they enjoy it and they finish it on a high!

Always something with these guys!

You can take the Bruce comment different ways.  I read it before everybody started talking about the autotune and didn't think anything of what he was saying, so he could have just harmlessly been using a bad phrase. 


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Aegir on April 26, 2012, 04:28:51 PM
another thing I'm noticing, because I'm separating the tracks into single songs (and therefore listening to the few seconds in between each song multiple times), is that there's a lot of false starts. like, Cowsill I guess will do the count-in and then only like one person will come in so they do the count in again and that's when the song starts.

the band should be paying more attention!

Can you give some examples?
Heroes and Villains.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 26, 2012, 04:31:40 PM
Absolutely crazy autotuning of Brian's voice. Anyone who can't hear it has terrible hearing.

After reading all this autotune crap today, I feel absolutely blessed to have terrible hearing. I feel bad for you guys, I really do. That you can't just feel joy without bitching about something or another.

Uh huh. Things that degrade the quality of something I love just make me so happy, Dr.Beach Boy. IF THAT IS YOUR REAL NAME. imo.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Heysaboda on April 26, 2012, 04:32:22 PM
It's not as good as the Eagles reunion.  I know a lot of people despise the Eagles, but when you hear stuff from the reunited Eagles, it still sounds like the old Eagles.  They may actually sound better and more professional than they did the first time around.

That's because the Eagles SUCKED the first time around.  Really, everything they did they just stole from the Flying Burrito Brothers.  Give me a break.

 >:D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Ron on April 26, 2012, 04:34:54 PM
The eagles are much younger, too. 

BTW, i'm still loving all this music! Sounds great!  LONG LIVE THE BEACH BOYS, B-PAIN AND ALL!!! 

I have chosen to enjoy it.  I'm looking for the good parts, and I see plenty of good parts. 


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: PongHit on April 26, 2012, 04:43:10 PM
GOD I NOTICED THE AUTOTUNE!

That's why God made the Auto-tune.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: anazgnos on April 26, 2012, 04:45:10 PM
Absolutely crazy autotuning of Brian's voice. Anyone who can't hear it has terrible hearing.

After reading all this autotune crap today, I feel absolutely blessed to have terrible hearing. I feel bad for you guys, I really do. That you can't just feel joy without bitching about something or another.

Uh huh. Things that degrade the quality of something I love just make me so happy, Dr.Beach Boy. IF THAT IS YOUR REAL NAME. imo.

All that really matters is that the name "The Beach Boys" is on the ticket.  Everything else is gravy.  Having personal preferences regarding The Beach Boys' product is anti-Beach Boys.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 26, 2012, 04:53:49 PM

All that really matters is that the name "The Beach Boys" is on the ticket.  Everything else is gravy.  Having personal preferences regarding The Beach Boys' product is anti-Beach Boys.

What if they went up there and played "Fuck The World" by the Insane Clown Posse for two and a half hour straight? Would you complain? How anti-Beach Boys of you ;(


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Ron on April 26, 2012, 04:54:23 PM
I wouldn't complain... I'd be wondering though if the world had ended and I didn't make the proper cut, though :)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: AndrewHickey on April 26, 2012, 04:59:31 PM
I think the issue with the autotune and its audibility or otherwise might (or might not) be down to how familiar it is. I simply don't know what autotune sounds like, because I only own a very small number of records with it on, and while I *think* I can hear what people are talking about, I'm not sure if that's just because I'm looking for it. I certainly wouldn't notice it normally. But I *do* easily notice the various compression artefacts (like the swooshing all over the cymbal and hi-hat) and the reverb and I can see someone wondering if all people were hearing is that.

To me, the autotune , if it's there at all, doesn't spoil the performance, but I hope that if it is there it gets removed or done differently before any of the shows which the people who it bothers go to, so it doesn't spoil it for them either. I think we can all agree there?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Ron on April 26, 2012, 05:05:10 PM
Most of us will agree Andrew, but remember you can't please everybody.  If they are in fact autotuning Brian's voice, there's probably some people who will think he sounds worse without it... obviously some of those people are in a position to make it happen or not happen, and it may even be Brian himself.  If it's even there. 

BTW, some of the people who are complaining about this would start complaining about the size of the stage or the color of the lights if Brian's voice issue suddenly dissapeared.  Some are never happy unless they have something to hate on. 


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: anazgnos on April 26, 2012, 05:05:47 PM

All that really matters is that the name "The Beach Boys" is on the ticket.  Everything else is gravy.  Having personal preferences regarding The Beach Boys' product is anti-Beach Boys.

What if they went up there and played "Fuck The World" by the Insane Clown Posse for two and a half hour straight? Would you complain? How anti-Beach Boys of you ;(

I WOULD FEEL NOTHING BUT PURE JOY


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SMiLE on April 26, 2012, 05:06:10 PM
It's not as good as the Eagles reunion.  I know a lot of people despise the Eagles, but when you hear stuff from the reunited Eagles, it still sounds like the old Eagles.  They may actually sound better and more professional than they did the first time around.

That's because the Eagles SUCKED the first time around.  Really, everything they did they just stole from the Flying Burrito Brothers.  Give me a break.

 >:D
Technically they are just called "Eagles" according to  Glenn Frey. I hope the autotune issue ( if there is one ) is fixed quickly because I am going to see Brian more than the other guys.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: drbeachboy on April 26, 2012, 05:09:47 PM
Nobody is hearing it inside the concert venue. No One mentioned it until the recording appeared.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on April 26, 2012, 05:12:27 PM

All that really matters is that the name "The Beach Boys" is on the ticket.  Everything else is gravy.  Having personal preferences regarding The Beach Boys' product is anti-Beach Boys.

What if they went up there and played "Fuck The World" by the Insane Clown Posse for two and a half hour straight? Would you complain? How anti-Beach Boys of you ;(
Juggalos would be up for BWR-ICP. ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Ron on April 26, 2012, 05:13:03 PM
I'm surprised nobody's stated the obvious yet.  It was recorded on an I-Phone.  This site is full of people who hate huge corporations, and Apple is a HUGE corporation.

So obviously, the "man" has special software that manipulates everything recorded on your I-Phone, even down to adding a Vocoder on a lead singers voice... BUT ONLY ON 4 SONGS.  The reason nobody heard it at the venue is because Apple added it after it evesdropped on his recording.  

Obviously.  


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: 18thofMay on April 26, 2012, 05:14:07 PM
Sail on sailor!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: ontor pertawst on April 26, 2012, 05:14:35 PM
Still sounds like some kinda flangy phasey harmonizer purposeful effect to me on H&V. If you wanted to live Auto-Tune Brian, some geek with a keyboard would be playing the melody along with him and the pitch correction wouldn't be that noticeable and psychedelic unless you cranked up the setting specifically for that effect. If you wanted to slyly fix his pitch, it sure wouldn't sound like that. Considering he's blowing notes here and there anyway, it doesn't sound like anybody is correcting his pitch on other songs. It's a big pain in the ass and since we're all used to Brian's fine, occasionally frail character-drenched voiced, people would look at the bottom line cost of doing this and go -- nah, f*** it.

Watch your oo's and aahs. Brian, you're flatting.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: LetHimRun on April 26, 2012, 05:17:51 PM
Going by the vimeo audio, it's bad on H&V and especially the new single. Brian's voice is wobbling and jumping everywhere on TWGMTR. I'd rather hear him sing flat or sharp than digitally wobble all over the place.
I really don't no what you are hearing. I can't hear it and the band say's no Autotune was used. I think Brian's vocal is being "ghosted" and they are in tune and when Brian wobbles that is what you hear.

Do you know how to sing? I mean really sing, like have been trained and have used it for years? I have. Something is not right. This "wobble" is not a natural wobble, it's a digital one. Now, whether there was something wrong with his setup, I will easily give you that. The line "from the dashboard of my car" is one of the ones that stood out. It completely drops in and out twice while he is singing "car." Set up problem? Mic? Could be, but in a setting with no problems, that is not the natural sound of someone wobbling on a note. Trust me.

That being said, Brian sounds great on pretty well all of the parts he sings prominently. I can hear a few places where the harmony with him and the high note are not correct because of the bad chord, but to me, it doesn't sound to be him. As someone noted on this thread or another, it seems to be Jeff who is a bit off in pitch in places (that person said he needed to be autotuned). A good example of that is the Grammy performance. Where Brian sings his line prominently with Jeff doubling him high, on the way down, Jeff misses the last note, but Brian doesn't and the result is a bad chord.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: rogerlancelot on April 26, 2012, 05:19:54 PM
I already have the I-Phone recording that everyone is discussing but I would still love to get a PM from somebody. I get lonely sometimes, what can I say?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: endofposts on April 26, 2012, 05:21:47 PM
Is it possible it's a type of doubling with added effects (either autotune or something else)?  It almost sounds very subtly like two Brians, and it's his own voice, it's not another person doubling him.  There are live vocal doubling effects out there.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: drbeachboy on April 26, 2012, 05:22:00 PM
I'm surprised nobody's stated the obvious yet.  It was recorded on an I-Phone.  This site is full of people who hate huge corporations, and Apple is a HUGE corporation.

So obviously, the "man" has special software that manipulates everything recorded on your I-Phone, even down to adding a Vocoder on a lead singers voice... BUT ONLY ON 4 SONGS.  The reason nobody heard it at the venue is because Apple added it after it evesdropped on his recording.  

Obviously.  
In a venue the music is too loud to know what you are hearing. All the sound is manipulated through the soundboard.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Jonathan Blum on April 26, 2012, 05:24:05 PM
Quote
Uh huh. Things that degrade the quality of something I love just make me so happy, Dr.Beach Boy. IF THAT IS YOUR REAL NAME. imo.

All that really matters is that the name "The Beach Boys" is on the ticket.  Everything else is gravy.  Having personal preferences regarding The Beach Boys' product is anti-Beach Boys.

Stuff the help-help-I'm-being-oppressed whinging, folks.  This isn't about merely having personal preferences, it's about getting so out-of-perspective that complaints about small details overwhelm the big picture.

Perspective check, folks:  this is the band which put on the 1977 Australia tour.  Who did shows where Brian wasn't even playing the same *song* as everyone else, never mind just being a bit off-pitch.  (And in those days they corrected him electronically too -- by turning his mic off.)  By the standards of Beach Boys shows, these are minor niggles.

See also:  getting handed a completed "Smile", and wailing and gnashing over synthesyzed harpsichords.

More generally:  calling this "something I love"?  Nope.  This isn't love, it's fandom.  Which is about obsession rather than love.  If it was someone you *actually* loved up there, like your wife or kid?  You wouldn't be posting at length on a message board about how disgusting their autotuning was; instead you'd be polite and generous and sympathetic.  Love is kind.  Fandom is relentless.

You want to be obsessive?  That's your call.  But the rest of us are sharing this room too, and when things get this heated and grumpy it's a real bummer for other people.  This doesn't mean people aren't allowed to complain -- but there's a line between complaining, and continuing to complain, which is a whole other ball game.

Regards,
Jon Blum


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: 18thofMay on April 26, 2012, 05:28:34 PM
Going by the vimeo audio, it's bad on H&V and especially the new single. Brian's voice is wobbling and jumping everywhere on TWGMTR. I'd rather hear him sing flat or sharp than digitally wobble all over the place.
I really don't no what you are hearing. I can't hear it and the band say's no Autotune was used. I think Brian's vocal is being "ghosted" and they are in tune and when Brian wobbles that is what you hear.

Do you know how to sing? I mean really sing, like have been trained and have used it for years? I have. Something is not right. This "wobble" is not a natural wobble, it's a digital one. Now, whether there was something wrong with his setup, I will easily give you that. The line "from the dashboard of my car" is one of the ones that stood out. It completely drops in and out twice while he is singing "car." Set up problem? Mic? Could be, but in a setting with no problems, that is not the natural sound of someone wobbling on a note. Trust me.

That being said, Brian sounds great on pretty well all of the parts he sings prominently. I can hear a few places where the harmony with him and the high note are not correct because of the bad chord, but to me, it doesn't sound to be him. As someone noted on this thread or another, it seems to be Jeff who is a bit off in pitch in places (that person said he needed to be autotuned).
Yes I can sing, but a digital sounding wobble can be created in concert, I have heard it from Brian and others before. His vocal is being ghosted in places, not on sail on sailor as much. I have heard Brian sound worse, either way IT IS NOT AUTO-TUNE. Robo-Brian as some are calling it can come from many effects natural and un-natural. So when he drops out a bit the ghost vocal becomes prominant, like a dodgy double track in the studio. The we could Ri-Ide the surf together part from Surfer Girl is the most telling part.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 26, 2012, 05:41:40 PM
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/2/20/800088/robocop2.mp3 (http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/2/20/800088/robocop2.mp3)

imo


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Wirestone on April 26, 2012, 05:57:10 PM
Is it possible it's a type of doubling with added effects (either autotune or something else)?  It almost sounds very subtly like two Brians, and it's his own voice, it's not another person doubling him.  There are live vocal doubling effects out there.

Yes, this is what I've been wondering. That is, if there's a track of his unaltered vocals that's mixed with a tuned track or something of that nature.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: sheknowsmetoowell on April 26, 2012, 06:03:02 PM
There IS some pitch correction going on during Heroes And Villains, not sure if it's auto-tune. When Brian sings "I've been in this town so long that back in the city" he sounds like Cher in her song "Do You Believe In Life After Love?" It digitally tries to lock into a pitch.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on April 26, 2012, 06:12:13 PM
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/2/20/800088/robocop2.mp3 (http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/2/20/800088/robocop2.mp3)

imo

Haha, it's useless man. People wanna believe what they wanna believe. Speaking of "believe"... Do you believe in life after love?

Anyway, I hope they got it together for tonight. I swear I didn't listen to this concert hoping for something to complain about. I would've been completely happy with a typical slightly off-key Brian vocal. It's the idea that they might be trying to fake the funk that gets to me.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Quzi on April 26, 2012, 06:28:57 PM
I got my dog ears ready to hear this autotune that everyone is bitching about and holy moly, talk about being over-prepared! The autotune isn't some mild touching up or anything. Brian's vocals are drowning in it.

I have no qualms with Brian giving a rough, natural performance. He still sounds more than passable and it's not like I can't cut him a break for the deterioration of his voice (it adds a whole new emotional dimension to the performance to a degree). What I do have an issue with is someone has made the decision that this awful sounding autotune sounds better than natural Brian, which is absolutely not the case and I don't think it's doing much for Brian's esteem to have him hooked up to the vocal equivalent of life support when he doesn't need it.

Really hoping that this whole shenanigan is rectified by the time I receive the next show via Prime Minister!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: I. Spaceman on April 26, 2012, 06:46:02 PM
There IS some pitch correction going on during Heroes And Villains, not sure if it's auto-tune. When Brian sings "I've been in this town so long that back in the city" he sounds like Cher in her song "Do You Believe In Life After Love?" It digitally tries to lock into a pitch.

Absolutely.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 26, 2012, 06:53:59 PM
All said, let's just hope this isn't present on tonight's performance or any after. How it wasn't caught in rehearsals or mid-show, I have no idea, but let's just hope the mistake was picked up on and isn't like this tonight. Brian deserves better, that's all.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Zargo on April 26, 2012, 06:55:59 PM
A gal who was unfortunately not aware that perhaps "Wouldn't It Be Nice... My Own Story" was not the best possible choice for an autograph was quite disturbed when her copy was returned in exactly the same form as presented.     

LOL Now that is funny!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: 18thofMay on April 26, 2012, 06:59:02 PM
So the fact that member sof the band say there was no auto-tune holds no weight at all!!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 26, 2012, 07:00:21 PM
So the fact that member sof the band say there was no auto-tune holds no weight at all!!

Since when were you in the band? Congrats! ^_^


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: egon spengler on April 26, 2012, 07:14:49 PM
I'm laughing my ass off about idiots here thinking they can hear auto-tune on a recording like this.  Meanwhile, EVERYBODY that was at the show says that it didn't sound like that.  EVERYBODY!   :lol  :lol  :lol  :lol  :lol

if you can't hear the wobbly autotune on his delivery of the word "deep" in Sail on Sailor ("deep commotion.."), i don't know what to tell you. I bet the same people who can't hear the autotune wouldn't pass a tone deaf test.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: 18thofMay on April 26, 2012, 07:19:06 PM
I'm laughing my ass off about idiots here thinking they can hear auto-tune on a recording like this.  Meanwhile, EVERYBODY that was at the show says that it didn't sound like that.  EVERYBODY!   :lol  :lol  :lol  :lol  :lol

if you can't hear the wobbly autotune on his delivery of the word "deep" in Sail on Sailor ("deep commotion.."), i don't know what to tell you. I bet the same people who can't hear the autotune wouldn't pass a tone deaf test.
Huh!! Even in Dr Dre headphones there is nothing wrong.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on April 26, 2012, 07:26:44 PM
The only wobble I hear is from guys singing and going a tiny bit off pitch combined with the natural boom and delay/echo that comes when recording in a big space from out in the audience.

And of course there is someone ghosting Brian. This is a guy who might simply stop singing at any moment in the middle of a song. It's not to make Brian sound perfect, it's to make him consistent, or to create the illusion of such.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Zach95 on April 26, 2012, 07:30:14 PM
Um...excuse me? Could I perhaps also receive a Postcard in the Mail? Really feel out of the loop here...I let this thread get too big without checking it out the last few days, I was more interested in the album info.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: DonnyL on April 26, 2012, 07:39:05 PM
I don't give a $h@! about auto-tune; "Don't Back Down" sounds so gooooooood !

(I hope they play it in Berkeley)

(PS- there is so much weird crap going on in this audio, there is NO WAY to know if any auto-tune was used -- doesn't sound like it to me).


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Ron on April 26, 2012, 07:59:09 PM
Well, I finally heard this, and I don't hear any autotune.  So there. 

:)

Brian sounded great on Heroes and Villians, and I was pretty much shocked at how good Mike sounded on some of the songs, like Don't Back Down. 

To THESE ears, this is a lot like hearing a Beach Boys concert from the 70's.  Pretty good stuff.  Wonderful time to be a fan! 


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Aegir on April 26, 2012, 07:59:29 PM
Um...excuse me? Could I perhaps also receive a Postcard in the Mail? Really feel out of the loop here...I let this thread get too big without checking it out the last few days, I was more interested in the album info.
well, look through the thread, there are uploads to youtube and vimeo.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: 18thofMay on April 26, 2012, 08:01:45 PM
The only wobble I hear is from guys singing and going a tiny bit off pitch combined with the natural boom and delay/echo that comes when recording in a big space from out in the audience.

And of course there is someone ghosting Brian. This is a guy who might simply stop singing at any moment in the middle of a song. It's not to make Brian sound perfect, it's to make him consistent, or to create the illusion of such.
Add to that the fact that two people in the band have told me no auto-tune was used.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Aegir on April 26, 2012, 08:03:19 PM
Maybe they're lying! or maybe it's a different brand of pitch correction!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Justin on April 26, 2012, 08:06:44 PM
Brian sounded great on Heroes and Villians,. 

Thought the same thing.  One thing that blew me away was just the strength/power to his voice--nothing to do with the the notes or keeping in tune. 

Everyone's been saying that it's autotuned yet no one's addressed ontor's post on the last page.   At least he's touching here on the actual process and addressing the issue from a technical standpoint.  Everyone else simply has stated that it's autotuned and ignore the logistics of it actually being done.


Still sounds like some kinda flangy phasey harmonizer purposeful effect to me on H&V. If you wanted to live Auto-Tune Brian, some geek with a keyboard would be playing the melody along with him and the pitch correction wouldn't be that noticeable and psychedelic unless you cranked up the setting specifically for that effect. If you wanted to slyly fix his pitch, it sure wouldn't sound like that. Considering he's blowing notes here and there anyway, it doesn't sound like anybody is correcting his pitch on other songs. It's a big pain in the ass and since we're all used to Brian's fine, occasionally frail character-drenched voiced, people would look at the bottom line cost of doing this and go -- nah, f*ck it.

Watch your oo's and aahs. Brian, you're flatting.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on April 26, 2012, 08:06:47 PM
This whole thing must be hell for OSD! We've quit arguing about Mike and have aimed the lazers at Foskett and auto-tune :)

I think Jeff sounded great on Catch A Wave last night!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: drbeachboy on April 26, 2012, 08:07:43 PM
Another conspiracy theory. Present the audio file to MythBusters.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: 18thofMay on April 26, 2012, 08:11:18 PM
Maybe they're lying! or maybe it's a different brand of pitch correction!
They have no reason to lie, in the 6 or so years I have spoken to them they have never lied or mislead me in anyway. It would be a) out of character for them to lie and b) out of character for Brian to need or use any type of auto tune.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 26, 2012, 08:31:43 PM
I don't get it. If this is how Brian normally sounds to you folks, God help you. There is obviously just reason to lie about using autotune during a Beach Boys show - it makes Brian look pathetic, it makes the people who run the show look clueless, and it brings down the quality of the show as a whole. Denying it outright even though it's blindingly obvious at least saves a bit of face to some people, I guess.

I'd be interested in hearing what excuse they'd give for Brian and Brian alone sounding like a robot and giving the most off-key performance of his entire life.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Zach95 on April 26, 2012, 08:40:54 PM
Um...excuse me? Could I perhaps also receive a Postcard in the Mail? Really feel out of the loop here...I let this thread get too big without checking it out the last few days, I was more interested in the album info.
well, look through the thread, there are uploads to youtube and vimeo.

I've seen one YouTube video...and it's been taken down.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SonoraDick on April 26, 2012, 08:41:12 PM
Here's what I heard, in person.

FWIW, Brian was absolutely DREADFUL at times in the soundcheck. Guess I could only prove it with about a minute of "This Whole World", which I did video. I shot the entire "TWGMTR" & don't recall it being bad, although I don't think I've viewed/heard it more than once since. I remember saying to my wife after they broke that I hoped he was just fooling around or sick of the rehearsals by then (we heard they rehearsed for about five hours the previous night), but I wasn't very confident about the show's potential at that point. (Had I known photos/videos would be impossible for us during the concert, I would have done more with the soundcheck, but we didn't learn that until we re-entered the venue
before the show.)

To my ears, the difference was like night & day when it counted. Brian sounded like... Brian. In other words, not great, but far better than just three hours before. I wouldn't know autotune from looneytunes; what I heard at the time was  satisfactory, maybe because I was fearing much worse. I had no thought that maybe the sound was being enhanced. To be honest, I thought maybe one of his meds had kicked in to help him relax. I was certainly caught up in the excitement, same as everybody else, but my (old) ears weren't offended by what they heard. Maybe they just heard what I wanted to hear at the time, & the audience recordings you've been hearing are the honest ones.

  


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: 18thofMay on April 26, 2012, 08:51:36 PM
I don't get it. If this is how Brian normally sounds to you folks, God help you. There is obviously just reason to lie about using autotune during a Beach Boys show - it makes Brian look pathetic, it makes the people who run the show look clueless, and it brings down the quality of the show as a whole. Denying it outright even though it's blindingly obvious at least saves a bit of face to some people, I guess.

I'd be interested in hearing what excuse they'd give for Brian and Brian alone sounding like a robot and giving the most off-key performance of his entire life.
I think he sounds good.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Wirestone on April 26, 2012, 08:55:37 PM
Maybe they're lying! or maybe it's a different brand of pitch correction!
They have no reason to lie, in the 6 or so years I have spoken to them they have never lied or mislead me in anyway. It would be a) out of character for them to lie and b) out of character for Brian to need or use any type of auto tune.

They have been known to lie before. Jeff was adamant when BW started touring that he didn't use a teleprompter for lyrics. Also, he claimed Brian was really playing piano in those first shows.

Neither claim was true.

giving the most off-key performance of his entire life.

This is objectively untrue. You may not have liked how he sounded, but he was indeed most often in tune.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Aegir on April 26, 2012, 09:02:16 PM
Um...excuse me? Could I perhaps also receive a Postcard in the Mail? Really feel out of the loop here...I let this thread get too big without checking it out the last few days, I was more interested in the album info.
well, look through the thread, there are uploads to youtube and vimeo.

I've seen one YouTube video...and it's been taken down.

OKAY, because you're too lazy to go back a few pages in the thread, I did it for you. Here. http://vimeo.com/41099670


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: 18thofMay on April 26, 2012, 09:04:22 PM
Maybe they're lying! or maybe it's a different brand of pitch correction!
They have no reason to lie, in the 6 or so years I have spoken to them they have never lied or mislead me in anyway. It would be a) out of character for them to lie and b) out of character for Brian to need or use any type of auto tune.

They have been known to lie before. Jeff was adamant when BW started touring that he didn't use a teleprompter for lyrics. Also, he claimed Brian was really playing piano in those first shows.

Neither claim was true.

giving the most off-key performance of his entire life.

This is objectively untrue. You may not have liked how he sounded, but he was indeed most often in tune.
Those are all fair and reasonable points! It was not he who told me there was no auto-tune and I can't hear it!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 26, 2012, 09:07:41 PM
giving the most off-key performance of his entire life.

This is objectively untrue. You may not have liked how he sounded, but he was indeed most often in tune.

I'll bet he was in tune a fair amount of the time, as he usually is - the autotune filter made it sound like he was giving the most off-key performance of his life.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Ron on April 26, 2012, 09:15:37 PM
You guys are starting to get ridiculous.  "Most off key in his life" are you fucking serious?  Brian's ALWAYS off key!  Sometimes for entire shows.  Have you heard the Long Beach tape?  You honestly think he was more off key at the show?  What are you smoking?  You're hearing sh*t that's NOT THERE.  He's singing.  His voice sounds strained and weird, you know, like it did from... oh... 1980 on. 


If he's using Autotune, then why the f*** is his voice sharp like it always is? 

It's just getting stupid.  He sounds OFF, like he always does, but yet it's autotuned?  Auto-detuned?  Auto "Lets make him sound like he ALWAYS SOUNDS" ? 

Have you heard ANY of his concerts from the past, oh, 10 years?  He sounds exactly like he sounds at all his concerts!  If you hear a pitch shift or something you imagine you hear in a note, it may be because it's recorded on a piece of sh*t tape recorder 300 YARDS FROM THE STAGE! 

Of all the stupid fucking things to argue about, lets all argue about something that's IN YOUR HEAD. 

I thought Brian was the one who hears voices. 


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 26, 2012, 09:17:48 PM
You guys are starting to get ridiculous.  "Most off key in his life" are you f*cking serious?  Brian's ALWAYS off key!  Sometimes for entire shows.  Have you heard the Long Beach tape?  You honestly think he was more off key at the show?  What are you smoking?  You're hearing sh*t that's NOT THERE.  He's singing.  His voice sounds strained and weird, you know, like it did from... oh... 1980 on. 


If he's using Autotune, then why the f*ck is his voice sharp like it always is? 

It's just getting stupid.  He sounds OFF, like he always does, but yet it's autotuned?  Auto-detuned?  Auto "Lets make him sound like he ALWAYS SOUNDS" ? 

Have you heard ANY of his concerts from the past, oh, 10 years?  He sounds exactly like he sounds at all his concerts!  If you hear a pitch shift or something you imagine you hear in a note, it may be because it's recorded on a piece of sh*t tape recorder 300 YARDS FROM THE STAGE! 

Of all the stupid f*cking things to argue about, lets all argue about something that's IN YOUR HEAD. 

I thought Brian was the one who hears voices. 

Are you angry, Ron.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Ron on April 26, 2012, 09:21:13 PM
No, I'm just busy trying to figure out how to put you on Ignore so I don't have to read your stupidity anymore. 


"Hi guys, I bought a puppy!"


Runnerzdialzero = "Puppies sh*t"

"Hi guys, I won the lottery today!"

Runnerzdialzero = "You're a gambling addict"

If you want to keep trashing everything you imagine you hear, go do it somewhere else.  I refuse to listen to you ivent sh*t to get pissed about anymore. 


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 26, 2012, 09:24:30 PM
Calm down, Ron.

Also, a gambling addict winning the lottery could be a bad thing - the chances of them blowing all that money on gambling rather than investing it in something wise would be pretty high. I wouldn't want a friend to waste all their money on gambling.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Ron on April 26, 2012, 09:34:57 PM
If anybody replies besides this clown, p.m. me, I refuse to read any of his negative drivel anymore.  Also if anybody knows how to ignore people (I.e., you've put me on ignore, lol) where it doesn't even show up anymore, please send me a p.m. 

Inventing something.  Then bitching about it.  A new level of stupidity. 


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: 18thofMay on April 26, 2012, 09:36:51 PM
Calm down, Ron.

Also, a gambling addict winning the lottery could be a bad thing - the chances of them blowing all that money on gambling rather than investing it in something wise would be pretty high. I wouldn't want a friend to waste all their money on gambling.
Please don't pretend you have any........ ^-^


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 26, 2012, 09:39:58 PM
Because I'm the only one who clearly hears autotune on this.

No need to get so worked up :\ I was done with it ages ago until a couple folks started calling people who heard it "hysterical" etc. and I felt the need to defend why I was sure I heard it. Again, I'm far from the only one - no one is "inventing" anything.

Relax.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 26, 2012, 09:42:18 PM
Please don't pretend you have any........ ^-^

I have plenty of friends, FYI, but unfortunately, most of them are gambling addicts.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: 18thofMay on April 26, 2012, 09:48:33 PM
Please don't pretend you have any........ ^-^

I have plenty of friends, FYI, but unfortunately, most of them are gambling addicts.
I don't have a gambling problem. I have winning problem.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Alex on April 26, 2012, 10:23:39 PM
Holy sh*t! Brian was T-Pain'd on SOS! So where's the record scratching and house beats? Is Lil' Jon gonna pop out and scream "WHAT YEAH OK SKEET SKEET!"?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: jamsvet on April 26, 2012, 10:31:13 PM
Didn't see it anywhere but a good review in the LA Times

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2012/04/live-the-beach-boys-kick-off-50th-anniversary-tour-in-tucson.html


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: anazgnos on April 26, 2012, 11:15:37 PM
Because I'm the only one who clearly hears autotune on this.

No, you're not the only one.  There's still no question in my mind that autotune was used in Tucson.

My attitude right now is wait and see what any further clips that come out sound like.  If there continues to be evidence like this, then in a week or two I'm gonna lay down a Warren Commission-style report on the B-Pain phenomenon so everybody can hear what is happening.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Ron on April 26, 2012, 11:18:47 PM
I hope when you do, you have more evidence for us non believers than just pointing at 3 or 4 notes in a 35 minute concert recording. 

I hope you're aware too when you do it, of the reason you're doing it.  If we dont' hear it, why would you want us to hear it?  Isn't that kind of like telling a 5 year old there's no santa claus?

:)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Quzi on April 26, 2012, 11:29:41 PM
I'm not meaning to ignite any anger here, I just want to point out how autotune works in a live environment. Because people can't alter each note of a vocal performance to what it should be (because the audio is being streamed live) an autotune filter instead "pushes" the note a person is singing so it hits the note that is closest to what the vocalist is producing. So for example, pretend Brian was singing a note just a little off being a perfect D. Even if he should have been singing a G at that point in the performance, the autotune would "push" that note into sounding like a perfect D as the technology has no way of knowing that it isn't the note he is trying to achieve.

Long story short, it's entirely possible to sound awful when using autotune (I know, I have tried using it before and achieved a less than stellar outcome  :lol)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: anazgnos on April 27, 2012, 12:04:44 AM
Which is why you hear Brian's notes juddering back and forth in a way that no human voice is capable of producing.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: hypehat on April 27, 2012, 04:57:07 AM
Which is why you hear Brian's notes juddering back and forth in a way that no human voice is capable of producing.

This. Quzi's point would agree with Heroes & Villains being the worst offender, because that melody is so complex/intricate and so the auto-tuning thingy is pushing what could well be a shaky BW performance absolutely everywhere.

I don't suppose anybody reads my posts here anyway, mind. But if that's what you think Brian Wilson sounds like all the time I am so sorry for you.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: absinthe_boy on April 27, 2012, 05:14:36 AM
Found the vimeo upload.

Brian is autotuned on his Surfer Girl solo for sure and it sounds at once awful and sad. It's one of the worst applications of autotune I have ever had the misfortune of hearing and it is very obvious. If you can't hear it, then please get your ears syringed. really, this is almost as bad as the deliberate special effect Cher achieved on "Believe".

By sail On Sailor I think whoever is handling the autotune has changed the settings and it's less obvious but it is still there.

Personally if I'd attended that concert I'd have walked away crying. Maybe Brian has a cold or something and on later dates they won't use autotune. It is an offense to the ears and to a great artist who just a few months ago sang many of those songs in concert to a good standard.

Anyone who says that no sort of pitch correction has been used is just plain lying.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: 18thofMay on April 27, 2012, 05:31:32 AM
Found the vimeo upload.

Brian is autotuned on his Surfer Girl solo for sure and it sounds at once awful and sad. It's one of the worst applications of autotune I have ever had the misfortune of hearing and it is very obvious. If you can't hear it, then please get your ears syringed. really, this is almost as bad as the deliberate special effect Cher achieved on "Believe".

By sail On Sailor I think whoever is handling the autotune has changed the settings and it's less obvious but it is still there.

Personally if I'd attended that concert I'd have walked away crying. Maybe Brian has a cold or something and on later dates they won't use autotune. It is an offense to the ears and to a great artist who just a few months ago sang many of those songs in concert to a good standard.

Anyone who says that no sort of pitch correction has been used is just plain lying.
Say what.. YOU THINK I AM LYING?Do you live inAustralia?You call a bloke a liar and you get a smack in the face.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: hypehat on April 27, 2012, 05:33:11 AM
Sounds like a nice place.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: absinthe_boy on April 27, 2012, 05:55:09 AM
Whoever from within the band says there is no pitch correction on Brian not telling the truth. If they believe they are telling the truth then somebody has lied to them. Somewhere, somebody has lied.

And I would say so in any court of law.

And I would win.




That is, unless somebody has managed to take the recording that is circulating and somehow autotune Brian's voice only on a single-track recording (which cannot be done).

I categorically state here and now for posterity that Brian Douglas Wilson, as presented in the Vimeo recording doing the rounds, has been pitch-corrected.



Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: The Shift on April 27, 2012, 06:16:08 AM
nice review:

http://the814times.com/2012/04/26/beach-boys-kick-off-50th-anniversary-tour-in-tucson/


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Wirestone on April 27, 2012, 06:28:47 AM
Whoever from within the band says there is no pitch correction on Brian not telling the truth. If they believe they are telling the truth then somebody has lied to them. Somewhere, somebody has lied.

And I would say so in any court of law.

And I would win.




That is, unless somebody has managed to take the recording that is circulating and somehow autotune Brian's voice only on a single-track recording (which cannot be done).

I categorically state here and now for posterity that Brian Douglas Wilson, as presented in the Vimeo recording doing the rounds, has been pitch-corrected.



I think it is folly to say something so categorically based on such scanty evidence.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: UK_Surf on April 27, 2012, 08:08:35 AM
Holy sh*t! Brian was T-Pain'd on SOS! So where's the record scratching and house beats? Is Lil' Jon gonna pop out and scream "WHAT YEAH OK SKEET SKEET!"?

'Wipe out'. Fat Boys. Beach Boys.

Possibly one of my favourite musical collaborations of the 1980s.

And while I'm at it - I for one would absolutely love to see Lil' John & BW perform together. ML was the original hype man, so it's a natural progression.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: LostArt on April 27, 2012, 08:32:48 AM
On one hand we have:

Several accounts by people who attended the shows, stating that they did not hear any auto-tune at the venue.

Two band members who say that no auto-tune is being used.

My ears, good enough to allow me to play guitar professionally for over thirty years, which can not hear any auto-tune on this recording (in fact, I can hear Brian singing out of tune??).

On the other hand we have:

People stating that auto-tune was absolutely being used, based on a recording made with a mic the size of a mouse's asshole that's designed to pick up close range speaking voice, coverted to digital with a cheap A/D converter and compressed to 64kbps, then uploaded to some file sharing site, then downloaded and played back through a computer sound card fed into some cheap low-fi computer speakers or some ear buds or something.

Hmm, I wonder who's opinion I trust more.


Okay.  I get it.  Some of you think you hear it.  I suspect you're mistaken, but whatever.  It's the attitude that I don't like.  "If you can't hear it, you've got terrible ears" or "If you say you can't hear it, you're lying. (???)"  I know, I used the word 'idiots' in a previous post, and for that I apologize.  But here's my take.  If you were being rational about it, you might say something like, "You know, I realize this recording is from a terrible source, but I think I hear something that sounds like pitch correction processing on Brian's voice.  Of course I can't be sure because of this very poor recording, but if it is auto-tune, I hope it's not used too much when I see them."  And then be done with it.  We all hope that it won't be used.  We get it.  Please stop.

 



Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: oldsurferdude on April 27, 2012, 09:24:29 AM
This whole thing must be hell for OSD! We've quit arguing about Mike and have aimed the lazers at Foskett and auto-tune :)

I think Jeff sounded great on Catch A Wave last night!
Your post sounds autotuned. ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on April 27, 2012, 09:30:54 AM
Wow, I gotta say I'm surprised that this is still being debated.

There's pitch correction on BW's vocals here. Period. A huge chunk of my profession is dealing with vocal editing (and a huge chunk of that is dealing with pitch correction) and I'm starting to take offense to people not only saying that there's no pitch correction, but that anyone who hears it is "making things up for the sake of making things up".

I'm 100% sure. I'd bet my (and your) family members on it. Low quality audience tape or not. It's very clear to these ears, which allow me to pay my rent.

There is no conspiracy here.  I just wish that everyone who "disagrees" because they can't hear it would chill out and stop attacking those of us who hear it. Personally, I'm not here to offend people, I just wanted to point out an obvious flaw so that hopefully someone in the Beach Boys camp might notice and fix this in the future.

PS - Everyone who keeps referring to this as a "low quality audience recording" - I guess you've never heard Seattle 1970. The quality of this audience tape is fine.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Phoenix on April 27, 2012, 09:32:25 AM
No, I'm just busy trying to figure out how to put you on Ignore so I don't have to read your stupidity anymore. 


"Hi guys, I bought a puppy!"


Runnerzdialzero = "Puppies sh*t"

"Hi guys, I won the lottery today!"

Runnerzdialzero = "You're a gambling addict"

If you want to keep trashing everything you imagine you hear, go do it somewhere else.  I refuse to listen to you ivent sh*t to get pissed about anymore. 

What a relief.  Until this thread, I was starting to think it was just me.   :-\


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: The Shift on April 27, 2012, 09:56:17 AM
Correct pitch application:

(http://www.pavingexpert.com/images/jointing/pitch_pourBucket.jpg)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: LostArt on April 27, 2012, 10:00:10 AM
Wow, I gotta say I'm surprised that this is still being debated.

There's pitch correction on BW's vocals here. Period. A huge chunk of my profession is dealing with vocal editing (and a huge chunk of that is dealing with pitch correction) and I'm starting to take offense to people not only saying that there's no pitch correction, but that anyone who hears it is "making things up for the sake of making things up".

I'm 100% sure. I'd bet my (and your) family members on it. Low quality audience tape or not. It's very clear to these ears, which allow me to pay my rent.

There is no conspiracy here.  I just wish that everyone who "disagrees" because they can't hear it would chill out and stop attacking those of us who hear it. Personally, I'm not here to offend people, I just wanted to point out an obvious flaw so that hopefully someone in the Beach Boys camp might notice and fix this in the future.

And it looks like they did. They didn't use it on him last night, and that makes me feel good.

PS - Everyone who keeps referring to this as a "low quality audience recording" - I guess you've never heard Seattle 1970. The quality of this audience tape is fine.

Okay, okay.  You're right.  The people who were actually at the venue to hear it in person were wrong.  The band is lying.  My ears are for sh*t.  Will you stop now, please?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: desmondo on April 27, 2012, 10:16:18 AM
Brian Autotuned??? - no chance

Drummer needs to sort his sh*t though


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Eireannach on April 27, 2012, 10:19:10 AM
On one hand we have:

Several accounts by people who attended the shows, stating that they did not hear any auto-tune at the venue.

Two band members who say that no auto-tune is being used.

My ears, good enough to allow me to play guitar professionally for over thirty years, which can not hear any auto-tune on this recording (in fact, I can hear Brian singing out of tune??).

On the other hand we have:

People stating that auto-tune was absolutely being used, based on a recording made with a mic the size of a mouse's asshole that's designed to pick up close range speaking voice, coverted to digital with a cheap A/D converter and compressed to 64kbps, then uploaded to some file sharing site, then downloaded and played back through a computer sound card fed into some cheap low-fi computer speakers or some ear buds or something.

Hmm, I wonder who's opinion I trust more.


Okay.  I get it.  Some of you think you hear it.  I suspect you're mistaken, but whatever.  It's the attitude that I don't like.  "If you can't hear it, you've got terrible ears" or "If you say you can't hear it, you're lying. (???)"  I know, I used the word 'idiots' in a previous post, and for that I apologize.  But here's my take.  If you were being rational about it, you might say something like, "You know, I realize this recording is from a terrible source, but I think I hear something that sounds like pitch correction processing on Brian's voice.  Of course I can't be sure because of this very poor recording, but if it is auto-tune, I hope it's not used too much when I see them."  And then be done with it.  We all hope that it won't be used.  We get it.  Please stop.

 



Okay, okay.  You're right.  The people who were actually at the venue to hear it in person were wrong.  The band is lying.  My ears are for sh*t.  Will you stop now, please?

This kind of logic has no place on the Internet.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on April 27, 2012, 10:22:58 AM
Wow, I gotta say I'm surprised that this is still being debated.

There's pitch correction on BW's vocals here. Period. A huge chunk of my profession is dealing with vocal editing (and a huge chunk of that is dealing with pitch correction) and I'm starting to take offense to people not only saying that there's no pitch correction, but that anyone who hears it is "making things up for the sake of making things up".

I'm 100% sure. I'd bet my (and your) family members on it. Low quality audience tape or not. It's very clear to these ears, which allow me to pay my rent.

There is no conspiracy here.  I just wish that everyone who "disagrees" because they can't hear it would chill out and stop attacking those of us who hear it. Personally, I'm not here to offend people, I just wanted to point out an obvious flaw so that hopefully someone in the Beach Boys camp might notice and fix this in the future.

And it looks like they did. They didn't use it on him last night, and that makes me feel good.

PS - Everyone who keeps referring to this as a "low quality audience recording" - I guess you've never heard Seattle 1970. The quality of this audience tape is fine.

Okay, okay.  You're right.  The people who were actually at the venue to hear it in person were wrong.  The band is lying.  My ears are for sh*t.  Will you stop now, please?

Stop what? I was responding to everyone who insists on putting us down for hearing what's there. Again, my intention was not to make anyone feel bad for hearing what they hear. I'm sure you're a great guitarist. And I am a great vocal editor and refuse to be put down in regards to a craft that I've dedicated so much time and passion to.

PS - I wasn't gonna say another word until people started with this whole "inventing things" stuff. I take that as a personal jab. Anyone who heard SMiLE AD knows I know my sh*t when it comes to vocal editing.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: stack-o-tracks on April 27, 2012, 10:59:43 AM
Listen to T-Pain here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avaSdC0QOUM&ob=av3e

Skip to like 30-45 seconds into the song.

Then listen to the Sailor On, Sailor, the bridge to Surfer Girl, and Heroes & Villains.  There's definitely some sort of flanging. It's all like in my woOoOoOoooooooOoooooody and it sounds like T-Pain. It's definitely not present all the time, at least to my non-audiophile ears, but it's there for sure.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Aegir on April 27, 2012, 11:16:48 AM
I only heard the autotune once I started paying attention to it. before that I couldn't hear it.

I'm familiar with autotune. I'm 24 and I listen to pop music on the radio. Wouldn't be able to tell you the names of any of the artists I listen to, but I listen to it. Also, I've recorded in professional studios before and we always use way too much autotune as a gag. Doesn't make the final mix, of course, but it's funny to listen to.

but still, I didn't hear it at all the first few times I heard the concert. at all. and then all of the sudden it clicked. it's something your hears have to notice. there is autotune, but that doesn't mean everyone can hear it. I was happy when I was in the camp that couldn't hear it. but let's not get personal about any of this.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: LostArt on April 27, 2012, 11:17:41 AM
Wow, I gotta say I'm surprised that this is still being debated.

There's pitch correction on BW's vocals here. Period. A huge chunk of my profession is dealing with vocal editing (and a huge chunk of that is dealing with pitch correction) and I'm starting to take offense to people not only saying that there's no pitch correction, but that anyone who hears it is "making things up for the sake of making things up".

I'm 100% sure. I'd bet my (and your) family members on it. Low quality audience tape or not. It's very clear to these ears, which allow me to pay my rent.

There is no conspiracy here.  I just wish that everyone who "disagrees" because they can't hear it would chill out and stop attacking those of us who hear it. Personally, I'm not here to offend people, I just wanted to point out an obvious flaw so that hopefully someone in the Beach Boys camp might notice and fix this in the future.

And it looks like they did. They didn't use it on him last night, and that makes me feel good.

PS - Everyone who keeps referring to this as a "low quality audience recording" - I guess you've never heard Seattle 1970. The quality of this audience tape is fine.

Okay, okay.  You're right.  The people who were actually at the venue to hear it in person were wrong.  The band is lying.  My ears are for sh*t.  Will you stop now, please?

Stop what? I was responding to everyone who insists on putting us down for hearing what's there. Again, my intention was not to make anyone feel bad for hearing what they hear. I'm sure you're a great guitarist. And I am a great vocal editor and refuse to be put down in regards to a craft that I've dedicated so much time and passion to.

PS - I wasn't gonna say another word until people started with this whole "inventing things" stuff. I take that as a personal jab. Anyone who heard SMiLE AD knows I know my sh*t when it comes to vocal editing.

And it's insulting to me when people say that I must have a bad ear because I don't hear it, or that I'm lying when I say I can't hear it.  That's why this 'I'm right and you're wrong' crap has to stop.  I'm neck deep in that crap already here in Wisconsin with our Governor and what his policies have done to polarize the population of an entire state.  This is great time to be a Beach Boys fan.  Let's enjoy it.  Let's agree to disagree and move on.  If auto-tune was used on Brian, and the folks in the venue couldn't hear it, then it's all good.  I don't really care what this crappy audience recording sounds like.  I'll never listen to it again.

Signed,
A-Pain (in the ass)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: endofposts on April 27, 2012, 11:32:50 AM
It's possible that the band members aren't lying when they say autotune isn't being used.  That doesn't mean another device with another name isn't being used though.  There are other brands of pitch correction and vocal effects.  There's a company called TC Helicon that produces live effects for vocal pitch correction, doubling, and other modifications.  They have sound samples, and some of them don't sound bad.  It's also not uncommon for live acts to use it.  Since they're playing bigger arenas with higher ticket prices and production values, it might be something they'd use to make it sound more professional and closer to what they'd get in a recording studio.  

http://www.tc-helicon.com/products/voicetone-correct-xt/


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: absinthe_boy on April 27, 2012, 11:33:44 AM
Whoever from within the band says there is no pitch correction on Brian not telling the truth. If they believe they are telling the truth then somebody has lied to them. Somewhere, somebody has lied.

And I would say so in any court of law.

And I would win.




That is, unless somebody has managed to take the recording that is circulating and somehow autotune Brian's voice only on a single-track recording (which cannot be done).

I categorically state here and now for posterity that Brian Douglas Wilson, as presented in the Vimeo recording doing the rounds, has been pitch-corrected.



I think it is folly to say something so categorically based on such scanty evidence.

On the evidence in that vimeo upload, autotune is obvious. I listened via a PC of course, but with a proper amp and speakers. YMMV with a laptop or a phone I suppose.

On that recording, it's there. The evidence is incontrovertable. Brian's voice does things no human voice can do, hopping between notes in a manner known to indicate putch correction and which no human voice can emulate.

It is entirely possible that Brian can also be heard hitting bum notes. The autotune may well have been set only to correct (for example) if he's within a quarter of a tone. If it can't figure out what note to tune to then it leaves it. It may also be set to allow him to glisando between notes.

Everything on that recording is consistent with autotune being used. It is inconsistent with entirely human efforts.

I stand by my statement. Some form of pitch correction was being used on Brian's voice, and on nobody else's. And I will defend that. When time allows, possibly next week, I shall load the recording into some software that will allow me to analyse it.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Lowbacca on April 27, 2012, 11:38:20 AM
Brian's voice does things no human voice can do [...].
That's what I thought when I first heard PLMW.  :) ;D





Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: absinthe_boy on April 27, 2012, 11:41:37 AM
I only heard the autotune once I started paying attention to it. before that I couldn't hear it.

I'm familiar with autotune. I'm 24 and I listen to pop music on the radio. Wouldn't be able to tell you the names of any of the artists I listen to, but I listen to it. Also, I've recorded in professional studios before and we always use way too much autotune as a gag. Doesn't make the final mix, of course, but it's funny to listen to.

but still, I didn't hear it at all the first few times I heard the concert. at all. and then all of the sudden it clicked. it's something your hears have to notice. there is autotune, but that doesn't mean everyone can hear it. I was happy when I was in the camp that couldn't hear it. but let's not get personal about any of this.

I accept that many people aren't as offended by autotune as I am....personally I really want to invent a time machine and make sure it was never invented. I feel it is the single worst development in music recording ever. To my ears it is actually painful and offensive.

But I accept many people listen to autotuned vocals and don't mind, possibly don't notice sometime.

But when you listen for it, and know what to listen for, I really challenge anyone to genuinely not hear autotune in that vimeo clip. As I said earlier, possibly on a laptop you won't hear it but with even desktop speakers or headphones you should hear it easily.

I was listening through a proper amp and floorstanding speakers (oh I am so lucky my employer indulges me since audio work is such a small part of my job)....and it stood out like a sore thumb.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Manchini on April 27, 2012, 12:08:48 PM
It's pretty bitchy to just say "whoever can't hear it has terrible hearing." I have a pretty good ear for tone. It just didn't cross my mind during the show that they would even use live pitch correction. I also am not familiar enough with pitch correction to have been able to spot it anyhow. Simply, I wasn't aware enough to listen for it and I wouldn't have known how to recognize it anyway.

Thankfully a couple people were cool enough to thoroughly explain what to listen for. Now I hear it. Oh well. I'm not heartbroken. You'll never work in Tucson again, Beach Boys!

And  :lol at people saying it's a sh*tty recording. No sh*t, really? I'm sure whoever recorded it wasn't interested in currying favor with a legion of people he doesn't know!

EDIT:

I do have to say, I don't know how I didn't hear it at the show. This is the first time I've bothered to listen to the recording, and it's incredible on "Surfer Girl!" I thought the reason I wasn't hearing it was because it was somewhat subtle pitch correction!

I don't know what to say. I think of myself as pretty observant, but it was not evident to me during the performance.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Heysaboda on April 27, 2012, 12:23:02 PM
Also, for anyone to assert "somebody has lied" is just completely rude, if not asinine too and really drags the discussion down to the level of kindergarden, doesn't it?

I mean, why accuse band members of lying?

I realize America, today, is afflicted with "the culture of assertion" that is, mostpeople think that simply asserting something makes it true.  (Reference S. Palin, 2008.)

GEEZ people, this is 5 pages of a bunch of Codswallop.




Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: drbeachboy on April 27, 2012, 12:31:17 PM
It's pretty bitchy to just say "whoever can't hear it has terrible hearing." I have a pretty good ear for tone. It just didn't cross my mind during the show that they would even use live pitch correction. I also am not familiar enough with pitch correction to have been able to spot it anyhow. Simply, I wasn't aware enough to listen for it and I wouldn't have known how to recognize it anyway.

Thankfully a couple people were cool enough to thoroughly explain what to listen for. Now I hear it. Oh well. I'm not heartbroken. You'll never work in Tucson again, Beach Boys!

And  :lol at people saying it's a sh*tty recording. No sh*t, really? I'm sure whoever recorded it wasn't interested in currying favor with a legion of people he doesn't know!

EDIT:

I do have to say, I don't know how I didn't hear it at the show. This is the first time I've bothered to listen to the recording, and it's incredible on "Surfer Girl!" I thought the reason I wasn't hearing it was because it was somewhat subtle pitch correction!

I don't know what to say. I think of myself as pretty observant, but it was not evident to me during the performance.
In the environment of the venue and being in the audience, there is no way that you would have known or know what to listen for. I'm still not convinced it was used, but if it was, I'm sure it had something to do with the filming of the show. Didn't you say you saw signs regarding this when you went in the VIP area?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Manchini on April 27, 2012, 12:36:45 PM
There were video cameras everywhere, I even saw an ENG, so it was definitely to capture something professional looking. I didn't do a VIP pass, so that was somebody else who mentioned the signs. But yeah, maybe they were just covering their asses for the first gig. Kinda backfired on them, I think.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: drbeachboy on April 27, 2012, 12:47:02 PM
There were video cameras everywhere, I even saw an ENG, so it was definitely to capture something professional looking. I didn't do a VIP pass, so that was somebody else who mentioned the signs. But yeah, maybe they were just covering their asses for the first gig. Kinda backfired on them, I think.
Guess they were not thinking "Bootleggers".


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Manchini on April 27, 2012, 12:51:45 PM
There were video cameras everywhere, I even saw an ENG, so it was definitely to capture something professional looking. I didn't do a VIP pass, so that was somebody else who mentioned the signs. But yeah, maybe they were just covering their asses for the first gig. Kinda backfired on them, I think.
Guess they were not thinking "Bootleggers".

Good point! :)


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: AndrewHickey on April 27, 2012, 01:06:17 PM
And  :lol at people saying it's a sh*tty recording. No sh*t, really? I'm sure whoever recorded it wasn't interested in currying favor with a legion of people he doesn't know!

I do hope that whoever recorded it knows how grateful at least some of those people he doesn't know are, though...


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: drbeachboy on April 27, 2012, 01:10:44 PM
I enjoyed it, supposed autotune and all. Nothing against the person or the equipment (iPhone?) used to record it.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on April 27, 2012, 01:35:08 PM
It's possible that the band members aren't lying when they say autotune isn't being used.  That doesn't mean another device with another name isn't being used though.  There are other brands of pitch correction and vocal effects.  There's a company called TC Helicon that produces live effects for vocal pitch correction, doubling, and other modifications.  They have sound samples, and some of them don't sound bad.  It's also not uncommon for live acts to use it.  Since they're playing bigger arenas with higher ticket prices and production values, it might be something they'd use to make it sound more professional and closer to what they'd get in a recording studio.  

http://www.tc-helicon.com/products/voicetone-correct-xt/

Wouldn't all this amazing technology be able to make these guys sound simply amazing???

It's either being utilized and is simply making these guys sound weird or it's not there at all and they just sound like the 70year old version of The Beach Boys.

The only auto-tuning type shenanigans I can hear is F(Foskett)-Tuning!


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Wirestone on April 27, 2012, 01:44:51 PM
We just need more evidence. And it's kind of silly to attack people for not hearing something when there's a single source.

My ultimate take on it is that I think it's more likely than not that some sort of pitch correction or vocal processing was used. But it's also quite easy to mistake some of the tinniness of the recording for a vocal effect, and they are two separate things.

Another thought: We could hear Brian sing both at the Grammys and the baseball kickoff. He wasn't tuned either time. Why would "his people" not tune him at these high-profile events and yet turn it on full blast for Tuscon, AZ? Something doesn't make sense there, either.

Finally, have we heard definitely that no processing was used the second night? I've seen the YT clip, but it's just a couple of songs. We just need to hear more.

It's possible that the band members aren't lying when they say autotune isn't being used.  That doesn't mean another device with another name isn't being used though.

This crossed my mind as well. Since Autotune is a specific product, you can pretty easily deny its use if you're not using that brand.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: orange22 on April 27, 2012, 04:05:08 PM
So, uh, yeah...any PMs that could be sent my way...regarding...you know, stuff.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: stack-o-tracks on April 27, 2012, 04:06:42 PM
So, uh, yeah...any PMs that could be sent my way...regarding...you know, stuff.

We dont' do that kind of stuff around here.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 27, 2012, 04:31:20 PM
Also, for anyone to assert "somebody has lied" is just completely rude, if not asinine too and really drags the discussion down to the level of kindergarden, doesn't it?

I mean, why accuse band members of lying?

I don't like to say such things, but it'd be as if Brian insisted that he never double-tracked his vocals, that's just how he sounded. What you hear on this recording is just not something the human voice does. Again, if you hear Brian this way normally, God help you.

Either the two people asked are completely clueless as to what was happening that night (which is fair, there are about 70 people on stage), are saying autotune wasn't used specifically while knowing full well that some equally atrocious form of pitch correction was used (which would not be the most admiral approach to saying, "Autotune was not used."), or are trying to save face in the whole matter by not telling the truth.

That said, I agree that I'd really like to see some more evidence come forth, and unfortunately, an "official" video from the show using an audio source from a multitrack won't be reliable given that they can tinker with it as they please - we need more audience recordings to confirm.

THAT said, if they've stopped using it completely, then I really couldn't care less about this. I just don't like being called hysterical or crazy in the matter.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: drbeachboy on April 27, 2012, 04:50:38 PM
Nobody said that. Actually, just the opposite happened with us who don't hear it. Can we please let it die? The show is done and you can't change what happened whether it was used or not. Just start an Autotune thread and talk to your heart's content there. Thank you for your kind consideration to this request.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 27, 2012, 05:15:31 PM
Nobody said that. Actually, just the opposite happened with us who don't hear it. Can we please let it die? The show is done and you can't change what happened whether it was used or not. Just start an Autotune thread and talk to your heart's content there. Thank you for your kind consideration to this request.

WHOA


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Justin on April 27, 2012, 10:59:17 PM
The Beach Boys - Wouldn't It Be Nice? - Live @ AVA Amphitheater - HD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20tDLOkNP6g

Is it me or is Jeff dominating this vocal over Al--who I thought took lead here?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: endofposts on April 27, 2012, 11:36:41 PM
The Beach Boys - Wouldn't It Be Nice? - Live @ AVA Amphitheater - HD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20tDLOkNP6g

Is it me or is Jeff dominating this vocal over Al--who I thought took lead here?

No, it's not just you.  Al sounds better than Jeff, so I'm not sure why Jeff is turned up louder than him.  I don't get the cult of Jeff in the Beach Boys camp, or at least the BW part of the Beach Boys camp.  Even if Jeff sounded better, why can't Al get the solo?  He's the original, senior Beach Boy.  His voice is still good enough that it doesn't need to be doubled.  The more I see of this tour, it looks like they totally rolled over to Brian and his people to make them happy.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Wirestone on April 27, 2012, 11:42:40 PM
The Beach Boys - Wouldn't It Be Nice? - Live @ AVA Amphitheater - HD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20tDLOkNP6g

Is it me or is Jeff dominating this vocal over Al--who I thought took lead here?

No, it's not just you.  Al sounds better than Jeff, so I'm not sure why Jeff is turned up louder than him.  I don't get the cult of Jeff in the Beach Boys camp, or at least the BW part of the Beach Boys camp.  Even if Jeff sounded better, why can't Al get the solo?  He's the original, senior Beach Boy.  His voice is still good enough that it doesn't need to be doubled.  The more I see of this tour, it looks like they totally rolled over to Brian and his people to make them happy.

Absolutely correct. No Brian, no big reunion shows. Wonder why BW is singing lead on the single? Wonder why it's all but one of his band members out there? Wonder why he's the first band member billed in advertising for the shows? Wonder why (I bet ) all but one or two songs on the reunion album will be his? BW and Co. are holding all the cards here.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: runnersdialzero on April 27, 2012, 11:47:02 PM
The Beach Boys - Wouldn't It Be Nice? - Live @ AVA Amphitheater - HD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20tDLOkNP6g

Is it me or is Jeff dominating this vocal over Al--who I thought took lead here?

No, it's not just you.  Al sounds better than Jeff, so I'm not sure why Jeff is turned up louder than him.  I don't get the cult of Jeff in the Beach Boys camp, or at least the BW part of the Beach Boys camp.  Even if Jeff sounded better, why can't Al get the solo?  He's the original, senior Beach Boy.  His voice is still good enough that it doesn't need to be doubled.  The more I see of this tour, it looks like they totally rolled over to Brian and his people to make them happy.

in b4 some guy tells you "the original vocal is doubled, they're just trying to replicate it!" despite the fact that they never had two people singing the lead during concerts in the 60s and 70s at least and the fact that yes, Jeff absolutely overpowers Al, which is sad to hear. Jeff sounds especially bad (and really really loud, of course) during the tag. Like a dog barking or something.

Aside from just really disliking Jeff's voice in general, man - he's not even really able to do convincingly do the falsetto parts anymore.

Sorry to be so repetitive, but the problem persists and doesn't improve.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: MaxL on April 28, 2012, 06:16:30 AM
There's a guy on setlist.fm who seems adamant that Wild Honey and Darlin' were performed and keeps changing the setlist to reflect that, they weren't performed right?


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: drbeachboy on April 28, 2012, 07:38:02 AM
The Beach Boys - Wouldn't It Be Nice? - Live @ AVA Amphitheater - HD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20tDLOkNP6g

Is it me or is Jeff dominating this vocal over Al--who I thought took lead here?

No, it's not just you.  Al sounds better than Jeff, so I'm not sure why Jeff is turned up louder than him.  I don't get the cult of Jeff in the Beach Boys camp, or at least the BW part of the Beach Boys camp.  Even if Jeff sounded better, why can't Al get the solo?  He's the original, senior Beach Boy.  His voice is still good enough that it doesn't need to be doubled.  The more I see of this tour, it looks like they totally rolled over to Brian and his people to make them happy.

in b4 some guy tells you "the original vocal is doubled, they're just trying to replicate it!" despite the fact that they never had two people singing the lead during concerts in the 60s and 70s at least and the fact that yes, Jeff absolutely overpowers Al, which is sad to hear. Jeff sounds especially bad (and really really loud, of course) during the tag. Like a dog barking or something.

Aside from just really disliking Jeff's voice in general, man - he's not even really able to do convincingly do the falsetto parts anymore.

Sorry to be so repetitive, but the problem persists and doesn't improve.
Isn't Jeff's dominating vocal more of a soundboard issue more than an issue with Jeff? These guys agreed on how these songs were to be arranged and performed. Also, we know this is only being done to bolster the aging lead vocalists.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: endofposts on April 28, 2012, 09:16:04 AM
The Beach Boys - Wouldn't It Be Nice? - Live @ AVA Amphitheater - HD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20tDLOkNP6g

Is it me or is Jeff dominating this vocal over Al--who I thought took lead here?

No, it's not just you.  Al sounds better than Jeff, so I'm not sure why Jeff is turned up louder than him.  I don't get the cult of Jeff in the Beach Boys camp, or at least the BW part of the Beach Boys camp.  Even if Jeff sounded better, why can't Al get the solo?  He's the original, senior Beach Boy.  His voice is still good enough that it doesn't need to be doubled.  The more I see of this tour, it looks like they totally rolled over to Brian and his people to make them happy.

in b4 some guy tells you "the original vocal is doubled, they're just trying to replicate it!" despite the fact that they never had two people singing the lead during concerts in the 60s and 70s at least and the fact that yes, Jeff absolutely overpowers Al, which is sad to hear. Jeff sounds especially bad (and really really loud, of course) during the tag. Like a dog barking or something.

Aside from just really disliking Jeff's voice in general, man - he's not even really able to do convincingly do the falsetto parts anymore.

Sorry to be so repetitive, but the problem persists and doesn't improve.
Isn't Jeff's dominating vocal more of a soundboard issue more than an issue with Jeff? These guys agreed on how these songs were to be arranged and performed. Also, we know this is only being done to bolster the aging lead vocalists.

Al sounds great.  He does not have the "aging vpcalist" sound that Brian or Mike have, his voice is still strong.  You can find clips of him on YouTube of recent appearances at his record release show and also at a record store in Long Beach.  His voice sounds better than Jeff.  It might be a mix thing that Jeff is dominating, but he really doesn't need to be there at all.  Or they might as well give Jeff the vocal to himself. Maybe they decided Al is only allowed to have two solo vocals, and "Cottonfields" and "Then I Kiised Her" are enough.  No one doubles his "aging" voice on those.  As for "these guys agreed," I'd have to think Brian and his camp have first word, Mike Love has second, and Al has little or no pull at all.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: drbeachboy on April 28, 2012, 09:34:23 AM
Agreed that Al's voice is in the best shape, but he stopped singing WIBN back in the early 90's. Carl was singing the lead after that. Even with his own band, Matt always takes the lead. So, it does not surprise me that Jeff is bolstering Al's lead vocal. Do you really think they would do it if they didn't think it was needed? Give the guys some credit, here. I think they talked this all out while rehearsing for the tour, don't you think? Heaven forbid that they should do something that we don't agree with, because of course we know better than the actual players involved.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: leoleoleoleo on April 28, 2012, 01:25:09 PM
i know i'm a bit late to the party, but if anyone wants to send me a PM for no particular reason then they should feel very welcome to.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: the professor on April 29, 2012, 09:35:09 AM
i hear Al just fine here. I am always on the lookout for excess Jeff, but here I have no problem.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Manchini on April 29, 2012, 01:44:11 PM
There's a guy on setlist.fm who seems adamant that Wild Honey and Darlin' were performed and keeps changing the setlist to reflect that, they weren't performed right?

No, they were not.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: MaxL on April 30, 2012, 02:53:33 PM
There's a guy on setlist.fm who seems adamant that Wild Honey and Darlin' were performed and keeps changing the setlist to reflect that, they weren't performed right?

No, they were not.
Knew it, either the guy's trolling or his memory's playing tricks on him. Many thanks.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Kamandi on May 13, 2012, 10:44:17 PM
Agreed that Al's voice is in the best shape, but he stopped singing WIBN back in the early 90's. Carl was singing the lead after that. Even with his own band, Matt always takes the lead. So, it does not surprise me that Jeff is bolstering Al's lead vocal. Do you really think they would do it if they didn't think it was needed? Give the guys some credit, here. I think they talked this all out while rehearsing for the tour, don't you think? Heaven forbid that they should do something that we don't agree with, because of course we know better than the actual players involved.

This post will probably never be seen, but add another to the list of someone who actually attended the show who will assert that no overt vocal correction hijinx occurred. Also would add that during the sound check I didnt think Brian sounded awful as others have said, but really tired and disinterested. He seemed to want to get it over with and would interject at times to skip a song "we dont need to do Rhonda"  and insisted on ending after Do You Wanna Dance. After Dave rehearsed DoDance, his only lead, Brian immediately said "We're done" and got up and walked off the stage with the other BBs following. Scott Toten (not sure how it is spelled) was definitely running things. He did the most talking and stage directing to Al's growing annoyance. During Sail on Sailor Toten told the band to sing "Wail on, wail on" and Al snapped "only the lead says wail on, the backing vocals are sail on". They would make comments like that through the soundcheck. The only time I saw Brian engaged was when he watched this attractive woman walked through the seats. I took a photo of him at this time and his expression show no emotions, his eyes were wide with interest. I think the meds take their toll on him.

So it was a huge shock to see Bruce, Mike and Brian walk down for the meet and greet, which was exactly the cattle call described by others. It was heartbreaking to see Brian walking with a really bad limp and he seemed in pain. Three stools were set out for them to sit on and Brian asked for a regular chair. The line was in place for the photos and the first in line was a couple who tried to meet and greet by chatting up the guys. They were quickly cut off by BRIAN, who said something like "Lets take a picture!" or "We're taking a picture!", then with that, the pair were told to pose. Brian and Mike smiled then went back to serious mode. Bruce never stopped smiling. The cows in line were then herded through quickly, a flash and you were out. All 3 of them noticeably perked up for this young couple ahead in line , the female of the pair evidently dragged along but very good looking. The lady of the older couple right in front of me got Mike's attention by saying "Oh my gosh, your shirts!" to which  Mike replied "Well we dont get lost". Mike was no longer wearing that shirt at showtime. My calm demeanor was immediately lost when Bruce looked at me and with his big smile and energetic voice said "Hey nice to see you, thanks for coming!". I said "its great to meet you all" and Bruce with the same enthusiasm says "Its great to meet you!" as I lined behind them, my left hand on Mike, right on Bruce and brother Brian in the middle below me. I always vowed if I ever met any of the guys I would let them know how much their music has meant to me and how much I appreciate them. Of course I try and say it in the short seconds before the camera goes off, and didnt get much out other than I was really happy to be able to see their show. I have no memory of looking at the camera, im sure I was looking down, but I also have no memory of the top of Brian's head. I said "hi Mike" and left. If you ever saw the American Band documentary they recycle some old footage from Brian's birthday during the 15 big ones time period. There is a somewhat odd image of Mike giving this "look" to the camera while he is eating cake. I got that "look", sans cake.

So much more to say but since this post will probably never be read, I will just add one more thing that took place during the actual concert. During Do You Wanna Dance, which was towards the end of the show, Brian took over the lead with gusto. It was unprompted, unscripted, unautotuned etc and it through EVERYONE off. Brian starts wailing on the lead once Dave was about open his mouth, Dave starts to sing, steps back, Toten is flipping out, Jeff stares at Al, Bruce stares at Mike, Dave looks bummed, and everyone stared at Brian. Bruce is waving Dave back to the mike and sad to say Brian is muted really low and Dave sings but the moment is gone. I can see Brian still singing but now he is almost inaudible. It would have been cool if the sound guy would have rolled with it and just let Brian and Dave double it but it ended up being messed up. After the song ends Bruce goes "GREAT JOB, Brian...Dave".


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Justin on May 13, 2012, 10:57:33 PM
Nice review Kamandi...I hope you go to more shows so you can provide more reviews.  I like the more in-depth reviews. 

I'm not surprised by horns being tangled between Totten and Jardine...they seem like strong personalities.  I hope they can keep it in check...but since it's been a few weeks since this first show...I assume all is well behind the scenes.


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: SonoraDick on June 12, 2012, 03:46:43 PM

during the sound check I didnt think Brian sounded awful as others have said, but really tired and disinterested.



Don't know about tired and disinterested, but this singing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qwImoMWrf4

... meets my definition of awful. 

However, perhaps the missed lines are due to disinterest. Luckily, Brian didn't sound anything like that during the show. Maybe the autotune actually helped that night??



Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: Rocker on June 19, 2012, 01:01:30 PM
Hi and thanks for the review !



So much more to say but since this post will probably never be read, I will just add one more thing that took place during the actual concert. During Do You Wanna Dance, which was towards the end of the show, Brian took over the lead with gusto. It was unprompted, unscripted, unautotuned etc and it through EVERYONE off. Brian starts wailing on the lead once Dave was about open his mouth, Dave starts to sing, steps back, Toten is flipping out, Jeff stares at Al, Bruce stares at Mike, Dave looks bummed, and everyone stared at Brian. Bruce is waving Dave back to the mike and sad to say Brian is muted really low and Dave sings but the moment is gone. I can see Brian still singing but now he is almost inaudible. It would have been cool if the sound guy would have rolled with it and just let Brian and Dave double it but it ended up being messed up. After the song ends Bruce goes "GREAT JOB, Brian...Dave".




Now that I call a Brian moment.....  ;D


Title: Re: The First Gig: Anselmo Valencia Ampitheater Tucson, AZ 4/24/12 (SETLIST/REVIEWS)
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on June 19, 2012, 01:03:29 PM

during the sound check I didnt think Brian sounded awful as others have said, but really tired and disinterested.



Don't know about tired and disinterested, but this singing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qwImoMWrf4

... meets my definition of awful. 

However, perhaps the missed lines are due to disinterest. Luckily, Brian didn't sound anything like that during the show. Maybe the autotune actually helped that night??



I hate to bring it up, but that sounds so autotuned.