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Title: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: RONDEMON on December 16, 2011, 07:08:42 AM
THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR

 
Legendary Band’s Golden Anniversary CELEBRATION to Include a New Capitol Album

And Commemorative Catalog Releases, a Major International Tour and More!

 

Hollywood, California – December 16, 2011 – The founding members of The Beach Boys, one of the world’s most legendary bands in popular music history, will reunite for a global 50th Anniversary CELEBRATION in 2012.  Beach Boys Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Al Jardine, Bruce Johnston, and David Marks will come together for a new studio album and commemorative catalog releases with Capitol/EMI and a 50-date international tour to begin in April with a headlining performance at the New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival (“Jazz Fest”) as well as other exciting events to be announced.

 

Brian Wilson says, “This anniversary is special to me because I miss the boys and it will be a thrill for me to make a new record and be on stage with them again.”

 

Mike Love says, "We got together at Capitol Records and re-recorded ‘Do It Again.’  Brian and I wrote that song which went to number 1 in Great Britain, Australia and elsewhere some 44 years ago.  Brian paid me a compliment saying, ‘How can a guy sound that great so many years later?’  Later on, while working out some harmonies on a new song Brian had written, I got a chance to return the compliment.  It was a thrill to be around a piano again with Brian, Alan and Bruce and experience firsthand the brilliance of Cousin Brian's gift for vocal arrangements.  I am very much looking forward to David Marks joining us and thrilling with his surf guitar licks.  Music has been the unifying and harmonizing fact of life in our family since childhood.  It has been a huge blessing that we have been able to share with the world.  Wouldn't It Be Nice to Do It Again?  Absolutely!”

 

Al Jardine says, “The Beach Boys were recently inducted into the California Hall of Fame. From our humble beginnings as brothers, cousins and friends, we have been honored to sing the praises of California, and I'm really excited for our fans to be able to see us again in concert on the world stage, and to celebrate our 50th anniversary together with a new studio album.”

 

Bruce Johnston says, "I will be looking forward to singing Brian Wilson's melodies and Mike Love's lyrics once again in concert with many of the original band members, but imagine what we all could come up with vocally in a recording studio atmosphere under Brian's musical direction."

 

David Marks says, "I'm really looking forward to celebrating this important milestone in The Beach Boys’ history with the other guys, and with Capitol Records - where it all began 50 years ago. It means a lot to me that we can all reunite and pay tribute to the fans who have kept the music alive."

 

The Beach Boys have already recorded several songs for their new album, to be released in 2012 by Capitol/EMI, with more tracks to be recorded before its completion.  The as-yet-untitled album, the first to feature all of the band’s surviving original members in decades, is being produced by Brian Wilson and executive produced by Mike Love. 

 

The Beach Boys and Capitol/EMI have also teamed up for a 50th Anniversary campaign spotlighting the band’s entire catalog, with several new commemorative releases planned for 2012, including a new hits collection and a career-spanning box set.

 

Roger Faxon, CEO of EMI Group commented: “It's no exaggeration to say that The Beach Boys are one of the greatest and most loved bands that the world has ever produced, and true American icons. We are incredibly proud to take this next step with them as our partnership enters its fiftieth year, and I can't wait to see the band back together doing what they do better than anyone else."

 

Colin Finkelstein, COO of EMI Music North America said: "We’re honored to continue Capitol/EMI’s historic partnership with The Beach Boys as they celebrate their fiftieth anniversary.  The Beach Boys bring the best of California’s sun and surf culture to people all over the world with their music, and we're really looking forward to working with the band on the new album and commemorative catalog releases - a real CELEBRATION of fifty years!"

 

Quint Davis, producer/director, New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival says, “It’s an honor to present the original Beach Boys reunion at Jazz Fest 2012.  Hosting the greatest artists of our era has always been the primary mission of Jazz Fest, and certainly The Beach Boys are unsurpassed as an iconic American musical and cultural institution. Every spring Jazz Fest is the number-one destination for good vibrations and fun, fun, fun; on April 27th, when The Beach Boys reunite on our biggest stage, it’s going to feel like a thrilling homecoming for everyone lucky enough to be there.  We’re all looking forward to experiencing the magic and the joy.”

 

Founded in Hawthorne, California in 1961, The Beach Boys were originally comprised of the three teenaged Wilson brothers: Brian, Carl and Dennis, their cousin Mike Love, and school friend Al Jardine.  In 1962, neighbor David Marks joined the group for their first wave of hits on Capitol Records, leaving in late 1963, and in 1965, Bruce Johnston joined the band when Brian Wilson retired from touring to focus on writing and producing records for the group.  For five decades, America’s first pop band to reach the 50 year milestone has recorded and performed the music that has become the world’s favorite soundtrack to summer.

 

The Beach Boys signed with Capitol Records in July 1962 and released their first album, Surfin’ Safari, that same year. The album spent 37 weeks on the Billboard chart, launching the young group known for its shimmering vocal harmonies and relaxed California style into international stardom.  The Wilson/Love collaboration resulted in many huge international chart hits, and under Brian Wilson’s musical leadership, the band’s initial surf-rock focus was soon broadened to include other themes, making The Beach Boys America’s preeminent band of the 1960s.

 

In 1966, The Beach Boys were one of the first bands to found its own record label with the launch of Brother Records, Inc. (BRI), with the band’s members as its shareholders and Capitol Records as its distribution partner.  BRI continues to manage The Beach Boys’ intellectual property, including the band’s catalog with Capitol/EMI and other label partners, as well as its name, logos, image and likeness.

 

The Beach Boys continue to hold Billboard / Nielsen SoundScan’s record as the top-selling American band for albums and singles, and they are also the American group with the most Billboard Top 40 chart hits (36).  ‘Sounds Of Summer: The Very Best Of The Beach Boys’ is fast approaching triple-Platinum sales status, and ‘The SMiLE Sessions,’ released to worldwide critical acclaim in November, has been heralded as 2011’s #1 Reissue of the Year by Rolling Stone magazine.

 

Inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1988 and recipients of The Recording Academy’s Lifetime Achievement GRAMMY Award, The Beach Boys are an American institution that is iconic around the world.

 


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Shady on December 16, 2011, 07:11:48 AM
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: letsmakeit31 on December 16, 2011, 07:13:58 AM
Wow :).


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: The Shift on December 16, 2011, 07:15:09 AM
Faaaaaack:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS2orIE2QUQ&feature=digest_fri


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: RONDEMON on December 16, 2011, 07:16:07 AM
http://www.thebeachboys.com/reunion/index.html

video


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: pixletwin on December 16, 2011, 07:16:49 AM
Is that the unmistakable sounds of The Fosketter singing the flasetto part?  :lol


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Shady on December 16, 2011, 07:17:32 AM
Faaaaaack:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS2orIE2QUQ&feature=digest_fri

That actually sounds pretty good


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: RONDEMON on December 16, 2011, 07:19:11 AM
Anyone else notice the "Commemorative Catalog Releases?"
Hope there's some new stuff/stereo mixes.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: pixletwin on December 16, 2011, 07:19:40 AM
I am glad to read that David Marks appears to be a full participant in both recording and touring. Does this mean he is now officially a Beach Boy again?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Shady on December 16, 2011, 07:20:11 AM
I am glad to read that David Marks appears to be a full participant in both recording and touring. Does this mean he is now officially a Beach Boy again?

I would think so..

I'm happy for him


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: letsmakeit31 on December 16, 2011, 07:20:30 AM
Well it's quite an golden age for being an Beach Boys fan isn't it?. New tour, New album, Re-releases too. Glad I'm now working after being out of work for a few months. I will be able to save up to see the tour & the Stone Roses all in the same year :)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PaulTMA on December 16, 2011, 07:21:33 AM
That was randum


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Mike's Beard on December 16, 2011, 07:21:57 AM
Does anyone else get the feeling that with reissues planned, "Wouldn't it be Nice to Live Again" has a pretty good chance of finally getting a release?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on December 16, 2011, 07:23:52 AM
Faaaaaack:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS2orIE2QUQ&feature=digest_fri

That actually sounds pretty good

There they are. Chills.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Shady on December 16, 2011, 07:24:35 AM
I can't say how I know but I just found out what the new compilation will be called..

"50 summer greats"

 ::)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: MaxL on December 16, 2011, 07:25:49 AM
Just fainted a little.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Rob Dean on December 16, 2011, 07:26:36 AM
AV IT  ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SMiLE on December 16, 2011, 07:28:51 AM
Who is the drummer in that video and who is the guy playing guitar with Nick and Scott. (I don't follow Mikes band .)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Beach Boy on December 16, 2011, 07:31:26 AM
Wow, this to me seems so unreal. Since I got into the boys in 2005 I wanted a reunion that much and finally we get it and I can't find words or even realize that statement. Someone wake me up, this is a dream!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: phirnis on December 16, 2011, 07:32:21 AM
Faaaaaack:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS2orIE2QUQ&feature=digest_fri

That actually sounds pretty good

Sounds very dry and inoffensive. Not sure what to think about it. Probably could have turned out much worse.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: BiNNS on December 16, 2011, 07:32:41 AM
Wow. Next year is going to be amazing.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: meltedwhiskeyinmyhand on December 16, 2011, 07:34:02 AM
holy santa claus $hit


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: adam78 on December 16, 2011, 07:34:09 AM
Great news!! And yes, what a time to be a fan! I've often wondered how lucky I am. All the people who waited years for all the great stuff that has come out over the past 10 years or so, as well as Beatles anthology stuff, i'm relatively new having only followed for 15 years.

The vocals on do it again sound great! Better than i'd ever expected great! Really looking forward to this all!!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Shady on December 16, 2011, 07:36:48 AM
Faaaaaack:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS2orIE2QUQ&feature=digest_fri

That actually sounds pretty good

Sounds very dry and inoffensive. Not sure what to think about it. Probably could have turned out much worse.

Yeah, I was trying to be positive..

Sounds better than expected but nothing near the original


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: JohnMill on December 16, 2011, 07:39:18 AM
Beautiful...Beautiful.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Shady on December 16, 2011, 07:41:12 AM
Trending worldwide on twitter

(http://i39.tinypic.com/jaf3ax.png)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wrightfan on December 16, 2011, 07:43:19 AM
Do it Again sample didn't sound as bad as I thought. Brian in the middle sounds great. His voice is sounding better and better.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: phirnis on December 16, 2011, 07:46:54 AM
Faaaaaack:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS2orIE2QUQ&feature=digest_fri

That actually sounds pretty good

Sounds very dry and inoffensive. Not sure what to think about it. Probably could have turned out much worse.

Yeah, I was trying to be positive..

Sounds better than expected but nothing near the original

"Do It Again" is an incredibly difficult song to cover I think, as the original recording just burst with youthful energy.

Hope it's going to be the only remake they'll do for the upcoming album project.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: JohnMill on December 16, 2011, 07:51:04 AM
Is anyone else replaying this thing over and over just to hear those harmonies again?  God I love this band!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: MaxL on December 16, 2011, 07:53:37 AM
Amen on having the thing on repeat. When I see 'em all there it makes me almost lose it.

And just for clarification the sidemen appear to be Scott, John, Nicky and Brett and (by the sounds of it) Jeff.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Tristero on December 16, 2011, 07:55:09 AM

"Do It Again" is an incredibly difficult song to cover I think, as the original recording just burst with youthful energy.

Hope it's going to be the only remake they'll do for the upcoming album project.
I have to admit, I'd be curious to hear them take on some of the SMiLE material again, maybe one of the less completed songs like Worms of Dada/Blue Hawaii with the finished BWPS arrangements.  That may be a pipe dream, but it would be cool to hear the Boys do a finished take on this stuff.

I'll also be eager to hear what archival projects are in the pipeline, beyond the obligatory greatest hits collection.  Here's hoping for a successful reunion that wakes the world to the magic of the Beach Boys.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Quzi on December 16, 2011, 07:56:41 AM
I'm excited beyond belief! I wonder what those special commemorative releases are?  :o Do It Again sounds pretty nice, but that falsetto... Foskett...  :(


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 16, 2011, 07:59:22 AM
All I can say right now is...about damn time.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: oldsurferdude on December 16, 2011, 08:01:55 AM
Please forgive us diehards(or d*ckheads-your call ;)), but with Brian, Al and David on board, it looks like what we finally have here is the real damn thing. Way to go guys! Looking forward to the whole shebang! :woot :woot :woot


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on December 16, 2011, 08:10:39 AM
I'm excited beyond belief! I wonder what those special commemorative releases are?  :o Do It Again sounds pretty nice, but that falsetto... Foskett...  :(

Make that an Autotuned Foskett. Really wish they'd tone that down a little, but maybe the average listener won't care.

Also wish there was a little more bass in the mix.

BTW, anyone else notice that Brian sounds very Imagination-like in the bridge? (Not a bad thing necessarily)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Quzi on December 16, 2011, 08:15:33 AM
I'm excited beyond belief! I wonder what those special commemorative releases are?  :o Do It Again sounds pretty nice, but that falsetto... Foskett...  :(

Make that an Autotuned Foskett. Really wish they'd tone that down a little, but maybe the average listener won't care.

Also wish there was a little more bass in the mix.

BTW, anyone else notice that Brian sounds very Imagination-like in the bridge? (Not a bad thing necessarily)

It's ridiculous, he sounds like a synth and to boot, it's real loud in the mix! :( I hate to be a debbie downer when we should be celebrating, but I must be!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: hypehat on December 16, 2011, 08:17:37 AM
er, there is so much autotuning on that, isn't there?


But, goshdarn


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SMiLE Brian on December 16, 2011, 08:20:00 AM
THE BEACH BOYS ARE BACK! ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: guitarfool2002 on December 16, 2011, 08:21:03 AM
Great news, I'm very excited to see what they do!

Now onto that video clip: I'm not passing judgement, I'm not second-guessing or critiquing before hearing the finished product, but I am questioning and hoping maybe someone will explain this from a sonic perspective, just as a curious fan who is into recording and such:

Why isolate each band member inside these gobos/baffles to track vocals when these same guys are quite possibly the finest group vocalists in all of rock history, with the best studio blend of vocals we've ever heard? In the same clip there are scenes of them gathered around a single mic, but that looks staged for the cameras while this shot has each of them on a single mic inside a booth...I'm just curious why or what they were doing when this was filmed.

I know this is 2011 and that's how it's done but when there is the finest group of harmony vocalists in the studio I don't get the setup in this shot:
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n295/guitarfool2002/bb2011.jpg)



Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Zander on December 16, 2011, 08:21:15 AM
What a great time to Beach Boys fan, the last 10 years have been unbelievable and now look at what we've got to look forward to...


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PongHit on December 16, 2011, 08:21:28 AM
Who is the drummer

John Cowsill.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: JohnMill on December 16, 2011, 08:24:27 AM
Is anyone else replaying this thing over and over just to hear those harmonies again?  God I love this band!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: BiNNS on December 16, 2011, 08:28:06 AM
Quote
Is anyone else replaying this thing over and over just to hear those harmonies again?  God I love this band!

I don't think you're alone.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Shady on December 16, 2011, 08:28:20 AM
The Beach Boys are reuniting for their 50th anniversary. They will also be releasing an album of new music, "PET Scan Sounds".

 :lol

From twitter


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Dr. Tim on December 16, 2011, 08:31:05 AM
So is Joe Thomas now out of the picture?  Or was in, but now out? Partly in it?  A co-producer?

I am also intrigued by the stated credits, album being produced by BW, executive producer Mike Love.  Is Mike sort of the project overseer for BRI? Or is it more loosey-goosey and this is just how they decided to divvy up the credits?   (With which I have no quarrel - just curious).

IF you ever want to see a ridiculous set of credits, look at "Free As A Bird" - the name-checks look like they were assembled by a law firm.  Which they probably were.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Mikie on December 16, 2011, 08:34:11 AM
So...............Brian Wilson - Producer.  Mike Love - Executive Producer.  Shades of the Landy years.........

Separate "cubes" in the studio for each one to do vocals. That's a little different, isn't it?

God bless 'em!! And they included Dave for posterity. Good move. I'm sure they'll have a Dennis and Carl tribute during the concerts. I'm gonna make at least two of them on the West coast!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: positivemusic on December 16, 2011, 08:35:42 AM
This is all so exciting! My hope as far as the commemorative releases go is for "Wouldn't It Be Nice T Live Again?" and for the original mono mixes of the albums to finally see release!

Just a though: Ironic, that many people thought this reunion would happen when h3ll freezes over... and its happening in 2012.  :lol


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on December 16, 2011, 08:48:12 AM
I'm excited beyond belief! I wonder what those special commemorative releases are?  :o Do It Again sounds pretty nice, but that falsetto... Foskett...  :(

Make that an Autotuned Foskett. Really wish they'd tone that down a little, but maybe the average listener won't care.

Also wish there was a little more bass in the mix.

BTW, anyone else notice that Brian sounds very Imagination-like in the bridge? (Not a bad thing necessarily)

It's ridiculous, he sounds like a synth and he's so loud in the mix :( I don't want to be a debbie downer when we should be celebrating, but I will be!

A more authentic reverb and some melodyne would do the trick..

:smokin

Back to the topic.. THE BEACH BOYS ARE BACK INDEED!! Great seeing David there. Mike's swag is up! Can't wait to catch them on the East Coast.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: southbay on December 16, 2011, 08:49:24 AM
Is anyone else replaying this thing over and over just to hear those harmonies again?  God I love this band!

Yes. Two thoughts. One, I actually got chills when I read it. Two, I miss Carl and Dennis.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Emdeeh on December 16, 2011, 09:01:28 AM
Yes, YES, YYYYEEEESSSS!!!!!!!! Doin' the Happy Dance! Woohoo!

 :love :happydance :tm :spin :rock

 :thewilsons


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Cam Mott on December 16, 2011, 09:02:36 AM
Hot damn!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: CosmicDancer on December 16, 2011, 09:11:18 AM
Very cool.  I'm hoping for the best.

What do you all think the stage setup will look like for the tour?  Will Brian be relegated to side stage on piano/keyboard like the early 80's or will he be front and center perched behind a keyboard? 

As far as the album goes, are most of you looking for all new material other than "Do it Again"?  Do you think some of the final tracks with Carl will be revisited?  Personally, I think "You're Still a Mystery" needs to have an official release.  Will any of Mike's unreleased tracks make the cut? 

So many possibilities!

I'm excited!  I hope the tour dates are released soon so that I can begin planning accordingly.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SG7 on December 16, 2011, 09:13:13 AM
Nice to see a nice mix of everyone's bands in there.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: BJL on December 16, 2011, 09:21:05 AM
This is unbelievably exciting!!!! I really hope Christian Love and Matt Jardine are involved vocally, but no matter who's involved, this is awesome!!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: pixletwin on December 16, 2011, 09:22:08 AM
I kinda wish they had Christian Love in there instead of the Fosketter.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on December 16, 2011, 09:24:12 AM
Major International Tour

Guess what my 6 year old daughters first concert will be?

I shall most definitely be taking her to see the Beach Boys!!!!!

Fantastic news



Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Chris Brown on December 16, 2011, 09:24:21 AM
Wow, that footage was pretty incredible to see, and the sounds were more pleasant than expected.  I've always been a bit on the fence regarding a reunion, but this has me more excited for it than I thought I would be!

As for why they recorded that way, I think you answered your own question guitarfool - this is 2011 and that's how you record harmony vocals these days.  It's something of a time-saver I'd say, in that you can individually auto-tune each part in post-production and avoid having to make everyone sing it over and over again until nobody has a bum note.  These guys aren't exactly in their 20s anymore, and I doubt they have the patience to stand around a mic and work at getting 4-5 part harmonies perfect.  It's easier to set it up this way, leave with something that's good but with a few rough spots, and fix it later.  Not to mention, you can obviously control the blend much better with a fader for each voice, as opposed to taking the time to adjust where the group is standing, putting tape on the floor, etc.

That being said, I'd rather have them do it the old-fashioned way myself, but modern realities make that somewhat unlikely to happen.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Shady on December 16, 2011, 09:25:06 AM
I'd hate to be the band member that didn't make the cut


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on December 16, 2011, 09:29:44 AM
Wow, that footage was pretty incredible to see, and the sounds were more pleasant than expected.  I've always been a bit on the fence regarding a reunion, but this has me more excited for it than I thought I would be!

As for why they recorded that way, I think you answered your own question guitarfool - this is 2011 and that's how you record harmony vocals these days.  It's something of a time-saver I'd say, in that you can individually auto-tune each part in post-production and avoid having to make everyone sing it over and over again until nobody has a bum note.  These guys aren't exactly in their 20s anymore, and I doubt they have the patience to stand around a mic and work at getting 4-5 part harmonies perfect.  It's easier to set it up this way, leave with something that's good but with a few rough spots, and fix it later.  Not to mention, you can obviously control the blend much better with a fader for each voice, as opposed to taking the time to adjust where the group is standing, putting tape on the floor, etc.

That being said, I'd rather have them do it the old-fashioned way myself, but modern realities make that somewhat unlikely to happen.

There was a shot of them all around a mic as well.

But at least, all in their little booths, they are all singing together. Levine had them record their parts separately in '85


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: acedecade75 on December 16, 2011, 09:32:04 AM
The Beach Boys legacy is immortal.  This is amzing!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: joshferrell on December 16, 2011, 09:34:21 AM
I feel better knowing that "do it again" isn't done like "Surfin'" or other songs from SIP with a rap beat and heavy guitars to bring it "up to date"..that was the big worry I had when I heard they were re-recording it..so it's great to know it actually has a beach boys sound...


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Justin on December 16, 2011, 09:35:14 AM
My mouth hung open for a good 10 seconds as I read the headline on Facebook.  I'm ecstatic!  I cannot wait for this. 


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Joshilyn Hoisington on December 16, 2011, 09:36:21 AM
Great news, I'm very excited to see what they do!

Now onto that video clip: I'm not passing judgement, I'm not second-guessing or critiquing before hearing the finished product, but I am questioning and hoping maybe someone will explain this from a sonic perspective, just as a curious fan who is into recording and such:

Why isolate each band member inside these gobos/baffles to track vocals when these same guys are quite possibly the finest group vocalists in all of rock history, with the best studio blend of vocals we've ever heard? In the same clip there are scenes of them gathered around a single mic, but that looks staged for the cameras while this shot has each of them on a single mic inside a booth...I'm just curious why or what they were doing when this was filmed.

I know this is 2011 and that's how it's done but when there is the finest group of harmony vocalists in the studio I don't get the setup in this shot:
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n295/guitarfool2002/bb2011.jpg)



Well, if you are an autotune conspiracist, that would be good evidence--they need everything isolated because you can't (well, you can) autotune a group vocal on one track?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Quincy on December 16, 2011, 09:37:24 AM
 :ahh :ahh :ahh :ahh :listening


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Micha on December 16, 2011, 09:43:43 AM
I have to admit, I'd be curious to hear them take on some of the SMiLE material again, maybe one of the less completed songs like Worms of Dada/Blue Hawaii with the finished BWPS arrangements.  That may be a pipe dream, but it would be cool to hear the Boys do a finished take on this stuff.

Even if this is sacrilege, but I'd like them to finish DYLW, ILTSDD, Holidays, SFC and CIFOTM using the 1966/67 backing tracks and the voice of Chistian Love (besides their own voices).

Why isolate each band member inside these gobos/baffles to track vocals when these same guys are quite possibly the finest group vocalists in all of rock history, with the best studio blend of vocals we've ever heard?
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n295/guitarfool2002/bb2011.jpg)

To avoid getting at each other's throats. ;D

No, the pitch correction theory seems plausible.

Sounds like they used the ProTools denasalator on Mike! :-D



Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Justin on December 16, 2011, 09:45:38 AM
Well to be honest...I wouldn't personally bet that this footage of them in the studio is them actually recording the track we're listening to.  I wouldn't be surprised if they did 1 or 2 run throughs after recording the track at the end of the day solely for this little video.  While this COULD have been the setup for the actual session--could be true---but I'd bet everything about it staged.  Unless, Brian REQUIRES that the lighting in the studio look like a setting sun at the beach---everything about this looks a little phony.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SMiLE on December 16, 2011, 09:49:07 AM
Amen on having the thing on repeat. When I see 'em all there it makes me almost lose it.

And just for clarification the sidemen appear to be Scott, John, Nicky and Brett and (by the sounds of it) Jeff.
Scott Bennett John who?  Nick Walusko and Brett Simons?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Runaways on December 16, 2011, 09:49:22 AM
awesome but mike barely sounds like mike there!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: HeyJude on December 16, 2011, 09:50:05 AM
Very interesting stuff. Do we know this is actual footage from that actual session? I only ask because I recall that it was specifically mentioned that David Marks was not a part of the “Do It Again” session. But there he is. Did they work in some additional footage of later sessions? Whatever period of time the footage was taken, some of this footage may be partially staged just to get some “at work” footage of the group.

Still very slightly mind blowing to see them together. Let’s really hope the album doesn’t suck. Let’s also hope they play a wide variety of locales around the world that gives the most people a chance to see them, and that tickets aren’t too expensive and are obtainable.

I do think it’s weird but logistically understandable that they are announcing a big reunion several months off, but the Mike/Bruce “Beach Boys” will presumably continue to do their shows in the meantime.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SMiLE on December 16, 2011, 09:55:20 AM
I fail to understand the irrational hatred of Jeffery Foskett around here.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Shady on December 16, 2011, 09:58:29 AM
I fail to understand the irrational hatred of Jeffery Foskett around here.

It's not personal, just his voice


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SMiLE on December 16, 2011, 10:02:45 AM
I fail to understand the irrational hatred of Jeffery Foskett around here.

It's not personal, just his voice
I don't mind his voice, Brian sure can't hit those notes anymore.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: BiNNS on December 16, 2011, 10:04:32 AM
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I fail to understand the irrational hatred of Jeffery Foskett around here.

Same here. I quite like his voice. I've never had a problem with his falsettos.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: southbay on December 16, 2011, 10:14:02 AM
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I fail to understand the irrational hatred of Jeffery Foskett around here.

Same here. I quite like his voice. I've never had a problem with his falsettos.
Agreed.  If it's not going to be Matt jardine, glad it's Foskett. I persoanlly can't take Randell Kirsch, too much Adrian Baker-esque for my taste.  As for the backing musicians, I can make out Nick, John Cowsill on drums, Scott Totten and David Marks on Guitar and Brett Simons on bass. I don't see Foskett in the actual video.  One question, on the vocal iso booths, who is in farthest booth, David Marks? Foskett?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Mikie on December 16, 2011, 10:15:15 AM
I really hope Matt Jardine is involved vocally.

Me too!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: STE on December 16, 2011, 10:17:11 AM
Holy f*ck!  YES!!



Replay!



Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: pixletwin on December 16, 2011, 10:17:43 AM
I fail to understand the irrational hatred of Jeffery Foskett around here.

I don't think anyone hates him, but some of us are tired of hearing his voice mixed up front so prominently... Plus Christian just plain has a better Wilson sound (for obvious reasons).


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SMiLE on December 16, 2011, 10:19:55 AM
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I fail to understand the irrational hatred of Jeffery Foskett around here.

Same here. I quite like his voice. I've never had a problem with his falsettos.
Agreed.  If it's not going to be Matt jardine, glad it's Foskett. I persoanlly can't take Randell Kirsch, too much Adrian Baker-esque for my taste.  As for the backing musicians, I can make out Nick, John Cowsill on drums, Scott Totten and David Marks on Guitar and Brett Simons on bass. I don't see Foskett in the actual video.  One question, on the vocal iso booths, who is in farthest booth, David Marks? Foskett?
I think thats Scott Bennett on bass. Oh no, wait that is Brett, never mind. I don't know any of Mike's people  so if anyone can clarify that it would be appreciated.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Myk Luhv on December 16, 2011, 10:26:38 AM
Well as it stands now I'm still more excited about the future archival releases but this is (potentially) good news too! (And certainly historic I reckon, output notwithstanding.) I confess to being a little wary of Mike's executive producer credit but I'm hoping it won't be much else than that... As for the song? Well, pleasant as it is, I'm more curious about their actual original material, shall we say.                     


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: HeyJude on December 16, 2011, 10:26:50 AM
It’s hard to say how indicative this footage is of who will be on this apparent “new album.” When was this “Do It Again” session? July or so? It could presumably not be the same set of musicians on the new album, and of course, it could be different musicians at different sessions. Brian was apparently cutting backing tracks for the BB album with Joe Thomas in the last few months and using some of Thomas’ session guys. It seemed like the “Do It Again” session just kind of featured elements of their touring bands because they were probably in the midst of touring at that time.  

It will no doubt be interesting to see who makes it onto the album and who is part of the touring band. It’s kind of looking like a hybrid of Mike and Brian’s band. It would be nice to see a few elements from the guys who have been working with Al. Matt Jardine would be my first pick for falsetto parts. It will be interesting to see if Al’s old BB touring band crew like Hinsche, Carter, or Figueroa would fit into any new stuff.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wylson on December 16, 2011, 10:30:35 AM
Amazed nobody has mentioned Mike miming electric guitar at 36 secs...


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Rocker on December 16, 2011, 10:31:03 AM
Speechless !!!!  ;D


I just hope Mike executive producing isn't a bad choice (remember Stars & Stripes)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: HeyJude on December 16, 2011, 10:31:36 AM
Well as it stands now I'm still more excited about the future archival releases but this is (potentially) good news too! (And certainly historic I reckon, output notwithstanding.) I confess to being a little wary of Mike's executive producer credit but I'm hoping it won't be much else than that... As for the song? Well, pleasant as it is, I'm more curious about their actual original material, shall we say.                     

Yeah, I wouldn’t mind if they put the “Do It Again” remake out as a single just to sort of hype up the reunion. But I’d rather not have any remakes on the actual album. These guys haven’t done a Beach Boys album with Brian since 1985 or 89 (depending on your definition), so they should have enough songs built up to not have to do any covers. I wonder also how Brian-centric the album is going to be. Is it going to be all Brian songs (with some Mike lyrics), or will Al or Bruce actually contribute any writing? Maybe hold back that “Waves of Love” track of Al’s for this Beach Boys album to have Carl on it?

I’ve very cautiously excited about “archival” releases. It sounds like we might get another “hits” compilation, maybe literally a 2-CD set with 50 songs. The boxed set sounds like it could be kind of an updated version of the “Good Vibrations” 1993 boxed set. At least that would allow some “rarities” to sneak in maybe. I would tend to doubt we’ll get “deluxe” reissues of every album, but hopefully we’ll get some good substantial stuff, especially some post-60’s stuff.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wirestone on December 16, 2011, 10:33:58 AM
Never has the phrase "hope for the best, prepare for the worst" seemed more appropriate.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Smilin Ed H on December 16, 2011, 10:34:26 AM
Hasn't Brian said it's all new stuff?

I see people are bellyaching already.  Plenty of time to do that...


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: pixletwin on December 16, 2011, 10:34:43 AM
Dare we hope for WIBNTLA and CF?  ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: CosmicDancer on December 16, 2011, 10:35:42 AM
In this previous thread:

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,10672.0.html (http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,10672.0.html)

Jon Stebbins reported that David indeed was not present for the session.  I wonder if they held a separate session to finish it that included David or perhaps they doctored the video to include him?

The thread also suggests, though it's never confirmed, that the session didn't go so well and didn't end harmoniously.  I wonder if anything has changed.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Rocker on December 16, 2011, 10:39:34 AM
Amazed nobody has mentioned Mike miming electric guitar at 36 secs...


It's David Marks. Probably not miming


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: HeyJude on December 16, 2011, 10:41:17 AM
Hasn't Brian said it's all new stuff?

I see people are bellyaching already.  Plenty of time to do that...

I’m personally not bellyaching about anything. Brian had said they’re doing new stuff, but I certainly don’t see any reason to rule out the possibility that they might try to include some sort of cover version of something. They’ve done it in the past, both on group and solo albums.

I just hope if they run out of presumably truly “new” material, they mine stuff like “You’re Still a Mystery” before going to remakes of their own stuff.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Roger Ryan on December 16, 2011, 10:41:31 AM
Hasn't Brian said it's all new stuff?

I see people are bellyaching already.  Plenty of time to do that...

Well, to Brian, a new recording of "Do It Again" would qualify as "new stuff":  ;)

I thought Eddie Bayer was the session drummer for the "Do It Again" session? If the drummer shown is John Cowsill, I wonder if all of the footage is staged for publicity purposes.

A new box set seems like it would have to have some unreleased material on it, especially if the "hits" will be handled on a separate release.

I never doubted that Mike would request an "executive producer" credit on any new album - we'll just have to wait-and-see how much enthusiasm Brian brings to these sessions. I would hope he'd at least operate at the level of IN THE KEY OF DISNEY.

I consider a reunion to be fairly unnecessary, but if it was going to happen, I'm very happy David is involved.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wirestone on December 16, 2011, 10:42:31 AM
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Hasn't Brian said it's all new stuff?

I don't believe so.

And this press release flatly states that the DIA re-record is part of the album.

Actually, it doesn't. My bad.

Also of note:

Jon's article about BW working on a new BB album said Brian was working on 6-7 tracks. If true, that means he's writing only about half of the reunion record.

Also, the last BB album produced by BW with an ML credit was Stars and Stripes.

As I said: Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Ram4 on December 16, 2011, 10:46:18 AM
Dare I say it, but has anyone confirmed that this video is actually from the sessions?  I know plenty of videos made in the studio that are not the real thing.  I bet those shots of them around one mike were simply for the visual effect and to remind us how they used to do it.  Nevertheless, it sounds really good for what it is.  The original material will be another story.  I hope it's a pleasant surprise and I really enjoy it.

I fear that this could be like The Eagles last album.  It had one great, classic sounding song and the rest was modern crap.  The reason that the song (How Long) sounded like classic early Eagles was that it was written back in 1972 and they played it live back then.    

I have never seen The Beach Boys :-[, only Brian's band and I will definitely try to see this tour.  I just hope they play some SMiLE stuff.  Nice to have David Marks involved too.  I am stoked about the catalog releases and even this new box set they mentioned.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: anazgnos on December 16, 2011, 10:48:42 AM
Never has the phrase "hope for the best, prepare for the worst" seemed more appropriate.

Yup.  All the talk about Foskett & autotune is bumming me out a little bit about this.  In theory I'd like to hear what the vocal blend of the five principals actually sound like on their own now, today, in 2011, but the sad thing is that new Beach Boys recordings might not even provide that much.  

Hoping for a Hollywood Bowl gig, though.  Would not miss it for the world.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: HeyJude on December 16, 2011, 10:50:45 AM
Quote
Hasn't Brian said it's all new stuff?

I don't believe so.

And this press release flatly states that the DIA re-record is part of the album.

Actually, it doesn't. My bad.

Also of note:

Jon's article about BW working on a new BB album said Brian was working on 6-7 tracks. If true, that means he's writing only about half of the reunion record.

Also, the last BB album produced by BW with an ML credit was Stars and Stripes.

As I said: Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

I don't think the article about working on 6-7 songs tells us anything about how much he's going to write on the album. That's what he was working on at the time, but he could write more stuff, or not use those 6-7 songs. Hope for the best and prepare for the worst is indeed appropriate! :)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: joshferrell on December 16, 2011, 10:50:53 AM
My guess is that the footage isn't from the actual sessions but it's meant to be a Music video filmed later and we'll get a complete music video when the cd comes out or just before..of course it's miming on parts because thats how one makes a music video. David may not have been on the original recording but since he's going to be involved with the reuinion they put him in the Music Video. it's probebly as simple as that.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: HeyJude on December 16, 2011, 10:52:47 AM
My guess is that the footage isn't from the actual sessions but it's meant to be a Music video filmed later and we'll get a complete music video when the cd comes out or just before..of course it's miming on parts because thats how one makes a music video. David may not have been on the original recording but since he's going to be involved with the reuinion they put him in the Music Video. it's probebly as simple as that.

It's also possible we have a mixture of actual footage and staged footage. Would they really call all the backing musicians back weeks or months later just to mime to the song? It's probably a mixture, hence the David Marks footage.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Mikie on December 16, 2011, 10:54:34 AM
Dare we hope for WIBNTLA and CF?  ;D

GOTTA release "Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again" next year. Just gotta!!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: joshferrell on December 16, 2011, 10:57:47 AM
My guess is that the footage isn't from the actual sessions but it's meant to be a Music video filmed later and we'll get a complete music video when the cd comes out or just before..of course it's miming on parts because thats how one makes a music video. David may not have been on the original recording but since he's going to be involved with the reuinion they put him in the Music Video. it's probebly as simple as that.

It's also possible we have a mixture of actual footage and staged footage. Would they really call all the backing musicians back weeks or months later just to mime to the song? It's probably a mixture, hence the David Marks footage.
I guess it would depend on if there were cameras at the actual recording sessions or not..if there were then it could be a mixture but if not then they would have to call the backing musicians back to re-enact the studio stuff..but the point I was making is that it's a music video and doesn't have to be from the actual studio sessions..


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wirestone on December 16, 2011, 11:01:17 AM
I just wish that Brian had given us more encouraging signs over the past couple of years.

It's hard not to feel like, once again, the big man is being forced into something that's not quite what he wants to do.

Now, I'm not saying he's dead set against it or anything, and the tour and album could have some really nice moments. But Brian does have a way of telegraphing how he feels about certain projects when he's not in full-on promo mode, and he's sounded less than thrilled about this.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: guitarfool2002 on December 16, 2011, 11:04:45 AM
I was thinking "AutoTune" writing my original post but I didn't want to mention it...but yeah, that's what I think was going on there *if* that film was an actual vocal session.

And groups still cut live "group" vocals around a single microphone today, or a stereo x-y or whatever, in the studio, but if you want ultimate control over each voice for tuning and fixing later in the mix, then you do a setup as shown in that clip...if you want that. Or if you're a one-man-band who can't do group vocals. :)

I'm just saying, all those amazing times those guys gathered around a single mic, with perhaps Mike Love apart on his own mic for the deep voice, and nailed it as a group with an impeccable blend and control...they can still do that.

Wondering why they showed film in the same clip of them doing just that, around a single mic, but again that looked staged.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jimmie_R on December 16, 2011, 11:14:31 AM
I just hope to god that the new album doesn´t sound anything like "Beach Boys", "Still Cruisin", "Summer in paradise" or "Stars and Stripes"  :(


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: CarlTheVoice on December 16, 2011, 11:21:00 AM
Argh! Yes! What a great time for me to really get back into my childhood faves! Cannot wait for more details!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: CarlTheVoice on December 16, 2011, 11:24:15 AM
I must add though that the promo video does make them all sound a bit "computerised" if that's a word! It seems produced a bit too much, but maybe they have to do that now as they are much, much older!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Craig Boyd on December 16, 2011, 11:26:05 AM
I just wish that Brian had given us more encouraging signs over the past couple of years.

It's hard not to feel like, once again, the big man is being forced into something that's not quite what he wants to do.

Now, I'm not saying he's dead set against it or anything, and the tour and album could have some really nice moments. But Brian does have a way of telegraphing how he feels about certain projects when he's not in full-on promo mode, and he's sounded less than thrilled about this.

Brian looks really relaxed and comfortable in the video and he sounds great on the bridge. I dunno how much you can read into that but it certainly seems like he's positive about it despite what he's said in past interviews.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: phirnis on December 16, 2011, 11:28:04 AM
I just hope to god that the new album doesn´t sound anything like "Beach Boys", "Still Cruisin", "Summer in paradise" or "Stars and Stripes"  :(

Let's face it, we're lucky if it's going to be as good as the M.I.U. Album both in terms of songwriting and overall production.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Rocker on December 16, 2011, 11:33:03 AM
Could anybody make a screenshot of the boys all standing around one microphone ?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wirestone on December 16, 2011, 11:34:21 AM
I just hope to god that the new album doesn´t sound anything like "Beach Boys", "Still Cruisin", "Summer in paradise" or "Stars and Stripes"  :(

Let's face it, we're lucky if it's going to be as good as the M.I.U. Album both in terms of songwriting and overall production.

What about "Imagination" with the BBs on vocals?

Actually, I could kind of go for that ... in 1998, that is ...


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: joshferrell on December 16, 2011, 11:36:29 AM
I think it would be cool if most of the songs,if not half,or even a couple,or hell even one (lol) have that 60's wall of sound feel we get with the Andy Paley sessions and today/summer days..


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: GuyO on December 16, 2011, 11:37:34 AM
 :-D Whahaha... Al is standing on a box in the video :) Couldnt hey have lowered the microphone???


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: pixletwin on December 16, 2011, 11:45:40 AM
Anyone notice they have Al standing on a box?  :lol

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r276/pixletwin/ElfJardine.jpg)

Edit: Just noticed GaryO beat me by 8 minutes.  :'(


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: BiNNS on December 16, 2011, 11:51:56 AM
Al on a box. Haha priceless. Some things never change.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: GuyO on December 16, 2011, 11:53:34 AM
Its Jeffrey Foskett in the last vocal booth.

To be clear; the musicians involved in the session presumably were Brett Simons (bass), Darian Sahanaja (keys), Nick Walusko (guitar), Scott Bennet (keys/guitar?) and Jeff Foskett (vocals) from Brians band, John Cowsill (drums) and Scott Totten (guitar) from Mikes band plus Gary Griffin (keys) who sometimes plays with Brian band live and on record. He used to be in the Beach Boys live band in the 90s I think. I believe David Marks was filmed for this promo video on a later date, I'm not sure he is on the actual track.

I hope more guys from the old days will contribute to recordings in the future (Carli Munoz, Ed Carter, Bobby Figueroa, Matt Jardine!!!, Billy Hinsche!!!)

(Sorry pixletwin!! :))


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: guitarfool2002 on December 16, 2011, 11:54:11 AM
Some more...Notice two of the "group" shots around the mics are different groups and different microphones:
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n295/guitarfool2002/bbstudio4a.jpg)

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n295/guitarfool2002/bbstudio4b.jpg)

(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n295/guitarfool2002/bbstudio4c.jpg)

And Al on the box...I think they do this just to bait the fans who would spot such things :-D:
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n295/guitarfool2002/bbstudio4d.jpg)


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Post by: Rocker on December 16, 2011, 11:56:01 AM
Thank you very much guitarfool !!


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Post by: Keri on December 16, 2011, 12:05:39 PM
I just hope to god that the new album doesn´t sound anything like "Beach Boys", "Still Cruisin", "Summer in paradise" or "Stars and Stripes"  :(

I'm with you on this. I'm hopeful as Brian is producing, I suspect he will do most of the arranging and I'm glad Joe Thomas' name has gone. It could go either way, but if Brian does the producing and arranging I think it'll be better than those. I think Brian's solo work may have proven to the other BBs that he can produce a sound that they'd be happy with. I hope Brian gets some percussion into the mix, that is the "spice" or as Zappa would say it adds the "eyebrows".


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Post by: Wirestone on December 16, 2011, 12:05:46 PM
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plus Gary Griffin (keys) who sometimes plays with Brian band live and on record.

To be agonizingly precise, Gary fills in for Darian when Mr. S. is unable (or unwilling) to do shows. I believe Billy Hinsche did the same for a European tour a few years back.

And yeah, for the Disney label records, Gary has also been part of the backing band with Darian.


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Post by: joshferrell on December 16, 2011, 12:05:52 PM
i just noticed that Mike has his goutee in some shots while others he doesn't..so that means some of the footage could be months after the first footage..(Mikes beard is back..sounds like it could be a song)


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Post by: STE on December 16, 2011, 12:06:51 PM

I highly doubt Darian was involved in "Do It Again".



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Post by: Wirestone on December 16, 2011, 12:07:22 PM
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I'm glad Joe Thomas' name has gone.

I would say the fact that his name is absent from a press release doesn't mean much one way or another.

I very strongly suspect he's still involved, for a number of reasons.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Aegir on December 16, 2011, 12:08:33 PM
Eddie Bayers definitely played the drums on Do It Again and David wasn't there, which means at least some of this footage is not from that session.

BUT WHATEVER! Why are we getting so nitpicky so early? the Beach Boys are back! I'm half thinking of making the trip to New Orleans just so I can see their debut reunion performance.


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Post by: Rocker on December 16, 2011, 12:14:16 PM
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plus Gary Griffin (keys) who sometimes plays with Brian band live and on record.

To be agonizingly precise, Gary fills in for Darian when Mr. S. is unable (or unwilling) to do shows. I believe Billy Hinsche did the same for a European tour a few years back.

And yeah, for the Disney label records, Gary has also been part of the backing band with Darian.



Gary was part of the BBs team as far back as MIU I believe. He's with Al from time to time as well. He was before he played with Brian iirc.


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the Beach Boys are back! I'm half thinking of making the trip to New Orleans just so I can see their debut reunion performance.


Here's hoping for a DVD


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Post by: southbay on December 16, 2011, 12:18:08 PM
i just noticed that Mike has his goutee in some shots while others he doesn't..so that means some of the footage could be months after the first footage..(Mikes beard is back..sounds like it could be a song)
Or, for conspiracy theorists, the same day if he brought a razor to the studio and Brian brought a change of shirts. But, yeah, you're probably right


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Dunderhead on December 16, 2011, 12:19:02 PM
So what are the cities they're playing????????


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Post by: STE on December 16, 2011, 12:22:55 PM

I just hope they make it to Europe



Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Dunderhead on December 16, 2011, 12:25:35 PM
I have very little faith for this album, but even though I don't expect it to be that great it will probably be their best one since LA


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Post by: HeyJude on December 16, 2011, 12:26:15 PM
Eddie Bayers definitely played the drums on Do It Again and David wasn't there, which means at least some of this footage is not from that session.

BUT WHATEVER! Why are we getting so nitpicky so early? the Beach Boys are back! I'm half thinking of making the trip to New Orleans just so I can see their debut reunion performance.

I remember reports within days of the session in July that Cowsill was the drummer. I think Bayers has been drumming on the Joe Thomas sessions, but I think this "Do It Again" session was a seperate "toe in the water" sort of situation. I can't say for sure that Thomas wasn't even there, but I haven't heard any accounts of Joe Thomas being at that session.


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Post by: Heysaboda on December 16, 2011, 12:28:45 PM
Faaaaaack:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS2orIE2QUQ&feature=digest_fri

That actually sounds pretty good

folks, this is not just "pretty good"

IT'S GLORIOUS!

 ;D


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Post by: Heysaboda on December 16, 2011, 12:32:32 PM
Is anyone else replaying this thing over and over just to hear those harmonies again?  God I love this band!

We All Are!

HOLY MOTHER OF PEARL!

 :3d


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: joe_blow on December 16, 2011, 12:37:23 PM
Is that Celebration 50 logo supposed to be the new album cover? Uh oh if truw...scarily close to 15 Big Ones.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Keri on December 16, 2011, 12:38:16 PM
I have very little faith for this album, but even though I don't expect it to be that great it will probably be their best one since LA

Given that I don't think much of LA or MIU I'm hoping for their best one since Love You. But I'm a Brian Wilson solo fan so I'm not full of confidence that it will be as good as his solo albums, at least it seems as though it has got new material on it. That's a good sign.


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Post by: Keri on December 16, 2011, 12:46:00 PM
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Hasn't Brian said it's all new stuff?

I don't believe so.

And this press release flatly states that the DIA re-record is part of the album.

Actually, it doesn't. My bad.


The caption at the start of the video states that the footage is of the band recording DIA for the as yet untitled new album. It could change but i suspect not.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Rocker on December 16, 2011, 12:46:31 PM
I really hope (and have the feeling) that Brian got inspired by the Gershwin and Disney albums. It's the kind of music that's much closer to his creative beginnings than say that of the Beatles. Goin' back to and working with that timeless, beautiful material might have given him some inspiration for new Wilson-pop.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: JohnMill on December 16, 2011, 12:49:16 PM
Not a belly-ache but my fingers are crossed that they somehow involve Dennis and Carl in this.  Even if they don't do the full scale Beatle thing where they remake one of their songs maybe even covering a Dennis or Carl outtake between the five of them. 


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: krabklaw on December 16, 2011, 12:49:31 PM
At two score and ten
We're gonna do it again
We still can play live
We survived
With the heroes and villians.

Looking forward to 2012!!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Custom Machine on December 16, 2011, 12:51:54 PM

Looking forward to 2012!!


Yes, The Smile Sessions was just the beginning.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SMiLE Brian on December 16, 2011, 12:56:17 PM
this news has just made my day.


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Post by: 18thofMay on December 16, 2011, 12:59:44 PM
waking up to this... what a way to start the day!


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Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on December 16, 2011, 01:01:18 PM
Key sentences:

"The Beach Boys have already recorded several songs for their new album"

Mike: "We got together at Capitol/EMI and re-recorded Do It Again"

My guess is there have been several sessions with different personnel and the clip was compiled from footage from varying dates/songs/rehearsals/"re-enactments" for the cameras. A perfectly normal and routine way to go about slapping together a "fly on the studio wall" type music video.

We all have reason to be very excited  ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: HeyJude on December 16, 2011, 01:07:54 PM
Is that Celebration 50 logo supposed to be the new album cover? Uh oh if truw...scarily close to 15 Big Ones.

I think that's assuming too much. I would assume it's just a logo designed for their anniversary. As the album isn't finished or titled, it would be hard to already have album art. I wouldn't put it past them to call the album "Celebration" or "Beach Boys 50", so you never know. But I take it as an anniversary logo, that's all. I like it much more than just something with surfboards and cars or something.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Heysaboda on December 16, 2011, 01:14:39 PM
Free Suggestion to the Beach Boys:

re: the title of your new album:

OCEAN WAY

!!!!!!!!!!

(for reference, see Abbey Road)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: stack-o-tracks on December 16, 2011, 01:17:58 PM
Not a belly-ache but my fingers are crossed that they somehow involve Dennis and Carl in this.  Even if they don't do the full scale Beatle thing where they remake one of their songs maybe even covering a Dennis or Carl outtake between the five of them. 

That's just tacky. Why not let dead men rest?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: JohnMill on December 16, 2011, 01:19:43 PM
Not a belly-ache but my fingers are crossed that they somehow involve Dennis and Carl in this.  Even if they don't do the full scale Beatle thing where they remake one of their songs maybe even covering a Dennis or Carl outtake between the five of them. 

That's just tacky. Why not let dead men rest?

To each his own.  I believe there is a way to do it tastefully and obviously a tacky way to go about it.  In my opinion Carl and Dennis should be involved somehow in this anniversary.  The legacy of The Beach Boys is as much theirs as the others.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Heysaboda on December 16, 2011, 01:30:15 PM
To each his own.  I believe there is a way to do it tastefully and obviously a tacky way to go about it.  In my opinion Carl and Dennis should be involved somehow in this anniversary.  The legacy of The Beach Boys is as much theirs as the others.

I'm with you, John.  There has to be a version of Soul Searchin' with Carl and something from Dennis that could be presented tastefully.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: elnombre on December 16, 2011, 01:41:11 PM
Not a belly-ache but my fingers are crossed that they somehow involve Dennis and Carl in this.  Even if they don't do the full scale Beatle thing where they remake one of their songs maybe even covering a Dennis or Carl outtake between the five of them.  

That's just tacky. Why not let dead men rest?

Because brothers don't like their brothers to be forgotten. Because Carl and Dennis' souls are a huge part of this band. Jesus...

Did you think Brian's cover of Heaven was tacky? I thought it was a beautiful piece of music and a good hearted gesture. If you feel otherwise, I pity you and wonder how someone so cynical could get anything out of what this band is all about.


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Post by: Wirestone on December 16, 2011, 01:43:07 PM
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Did you think Brian's cover of Heaven was tacky? I thought it was a beautiful piece of music and a good hearted gesture. If you feel otherwise, I pity you and wonder how someone so cynical could get anything out of what this band is all about.

He didn't put it on a Beach Boys reunion album, though, did he?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: elnombre on December 16, 2011, 01:47:10 PM
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Did you think Brian's cover of Heaven was tacky? I thought it was a beautiful piece of music and a good hearted gesture. If you feel otherwise, I pity you and wonder how someone so cynical could get anything out of what this band is all about.

He didn't put it on a Beach Boys reunion album, though, did he?

No, because it was a Brian recording with Brian's band. So if he'd recorded it with Mike, Bruce, Al and David and put it on a Beach Boys album, you think it would be tacky? I think it would be paying homage to Carl while drawing attention to his skill as a songwriter and showcasing a great song that not a lot of people have heard.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: mammy blue on December 16, 2011, 01:47:47 PM
I've got little to no expectations for the "new" album, but I'll admit that it's pretty cool that they're officially "reuniting" in New Orleans (my neck of the woods). Should be quite an event. I am especially intrigued by the archive releases... a *new* career spanning box... what? I'm not sure how you can improve on the GV box but hopefully some rarities will be coming our way. No matter what happens, it's all icing on the cake following that glorious box that arrived on my doorstep last month!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: krabklaw on December 16, 2011, 01:50:14 PM
The Wilson brothers' memory has been honored sufficiently elsewhere. Let's see what The Beach Boys 2012 sounds like without dwelling on Carl's & Dennis' legacy. A simple dedication in the liner notes should suffice.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on December 16, 2011, 01:53:21 PM
VERY exciting!  Mike sounds great, as does Brian.  A very nice re-do!!!!  And David there in the video.  AWESOME!!!!! Also playing guitar as well as singing.  if he wasn't at the original session, I hope they had him overdub the guitar solo.

Is it me, did I miss Bruce?  Is Bruce not in the video?  I see someone in a checkered shirt and a hat singing but his face is obscured. (maybe he's in the front row just applauding).
In any event, you never see five Beach Boys together in the video.

Another aspect to it being two video shoots, guys are wearing different shirts.


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Post by: runnersdialzero on December 16, 2011, 01:58:14 PM
Autotuned Jeff = death.

Why can't he ever sing a note as it was written instead of f*cking with it in the same way every single time? "DU-UM BE DO-OO RON!" or "I WISH THEY ALL CO-OULD BE CALIFORNIA GIRLS"?

Even besides that, I just can't stand his tone. I've heard people say he sounds just like Brian did in the 60s, which is almost offensive. There are people involved with the band who can do those parts worlds more justice, and they were probably not utilized solely because Jeff is acting as one of Brian's minders. If people want to accuse, say, Christian Love of not singing with any "feeling", we should instead start with Jeff.

That is why people don't like Jeff and are, like me, probably fairly upset that he's gonna be on this.

some of us are tired of hearing his voice mixed up front so prominently

THIS, too. I bet anything he'd be more tolerable if he wasn't at the very top of the mix on almost every song he's included on.

That all said, I'm excited for the new album, excited for the re-releases, I'm very glad David's there, and I think Mike and Brian sound really good.

I'm also all for a reworking of a Carl and Dennis song. I don't understand those who fault the idea, but that's just me.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: elnombre on December 16, 2011, 02:04:25 PM
The Wilson brothers' memory has been honored sufficiently elsewhere. Let's see what The Beach Boys 2012 sounds like without dwelling on Carl's & Dennis' legacy. A simple dedication in the liner notes should suffice.

I'm amazed that people would actively oppose the inclusion of one of Carl or Dennis' solo songs.

This is a commemoration of what this band *has* achieved. This is a band with a storied past, not a long future. Does 'Celebration' as the title for this campaign not give you a hint? If you oppose Brian paying tribute to his brothers or Mike paying tribute to his cousins if thats what they want to do all I can wonder is who the f*** you think you are.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Roger Ryan on December 16, 2011, 02:09:59 PM
I have a feeling the new album will, in fact, be titled DO IT AGAIN.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Custom Machine on December 16, 2011, 02:10:55 PM
From Rolling Stone:

Jardine also says that the group will present a diverse setlist. "We haven't played together in a long time," he says. "The fans are going to want to hear the hits. But there should also be lesser-known ones that are so important."



Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: elnombre on December 16, 2011, 02:13:32 PM
The fact that I'm on a Beach Boys fan forum on the day a Beach Boys reunion and new album has been announced to celebrate their half century and some fans are actually admonishing the idea of Dennis and Carl being commemorated/acknowledged beyond liner note dedications blows my mind quite frankly. And makes me sick.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wirestone on December 16, 2011, 02:14:55 PM
Autotuned Jeff = death.

Why can't he ever sing a note as it was written instead of f*cking with it in the same way every single time? "DU-UM BE DO-OO RON!" or "I WISH THEY ALL CO-OULD BE CALIFORNIA GIRLS"?

Even besides that, I just can't stand his tone. I've heard people say he sounds just like Brian did in the 60s, which is almost offensive. There are people involved with the band who can do those parts worlds more justice, and they were probably not utilized solely because Jeff is acting as one of Brian's minders. If people want to accuse, say, Christian Love of not singing with any "feeling", we should instead start with Jeff.

That is why people don't like Jeff and are, like me, probably fairly upset that he's gonna be on this.

some of us are tired of hearing his voice mixed up front so prominently

THIS, too. I bet anything he'd be more tolerable if he wasn't at the very top of the mix on almost every song he's included on.

That all said, I'm excited for the new album, excited for the re-releases, I'm very glad David's there, and I think Mike and Brian sound really good.

I'm also all for a reworking of a Carl and Dennis song. I don't understand those who fault the idea, but that's just me.

The Jeff hate is getting old, man. Really.

The falsetto is one of the key parts in BB harmony. That's why it's mixed up. It has nothing to do with Jeff personally, and everything to do with how Brian's music works.

You're so obsessed with Jeff -- for reasons I can only begin to imagine -- that you're losing sight of any bigger picture.

The Wilson brothers' memory has been honored sufficiently elsewhere. Let's see what The Beach Boys 2012 sounds like without dwelling on Carl's & Dennis' legacy. A simple dedication in the liner notes should suffice.

I'm amazed that people would actively oppose the inclusion of one of Carl or Dennis' solo songs.

This is a commemoration of what this band *has* achieved. This is a band with a storied past, not a long future. Does 'Celebration' as the title for this campaign not give you a hint? If you oppose Brian paying tribute to his brothers or Mike paying tribute to his cousins if thats what they want to do all I can wonder is who the f*ck you think you are.

We're Beach Boys fans, that's who we are. As a group we always know better than the band or its constituent members.

The fact that I'm on a Beach Boys fan forum on the day a Beach Boys reunion and new album has been announced to celebrate their half century and some fans are actually admonishing the idea of Dennis and Carl being commemorated/acknowledged beyond liner note dedications blows my mind quite frankly. And makes me sick.

They are dead and gone. For many years. Nothing would make the album less relevant (than it likely already will be) than pulling back-from-the-dead shtick.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: elnombre on December 16, 2011, 02:18:22 PM
They are dead and gone. For many years. Nothing would make the album less relevant (than it likely already will be) than pulling back-from-the-dead shtick.

What part of '50th anniversary celebration' is tripping you up? What you'd prefer 'relevance' like Summer In Paradise tried to be relevant to the early 90s? And covering a song your brother wrote is hardly trying to bring them 'back from the dead' any more than the local orchestra is trying to revive Beethoven.

This is a 50th anniversary celebration of the Beach Boys. Unless you think Carl and Dennis' contributions were minimal, I fail to see how the occasion can be properly commemorated without their inclusion and acknowledgement in some small way.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jon Stebbins on December 16, 2011, 02:26:36 PM
Some above have surmised that perhaps David is "in the video" but not on the track due to the fact I reported he wasn't at the initial "Do It Again" vocal session months ago. But there were multiple sessions, or multiple days of recording and filming. I can confirm David did record multiple guitar tracks for this recording at Brian and Mike's request. I am not exactly sure what order everything came together in...but all the boys are on the track.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 16, 2011, 02:27:54 PM
1 - permission to be exceedingly smug for about a week...

2 - will those already picking it apart kindly SHUT THE f*ck UP. Don't like the idea, fine, just go away and leave those of us who can to enjoy the prospect.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on December 16, 2011, 02:28:17 PM
Let me also take this opportunity to apologize to AGD.  
I'd zinged him (incorrectly) for erroneous reporting as well as not being a diligent journalist
(by not interviewing Brian as to what he was up to in the studio with a possible new BB album.)

Obviously there was a plan, AGD knew that, and he did a splendid job of not letting the cat out of the bag.  
Once again, my apologies Sir!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: elnombre on December 16, 2011, 02:29:18 PM
Some people need to realize that this isn't the rebirth, it's the last hurrah. Join in and enjoy while you can.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: 18thofMay on December 16, 2011, 02:29:46 PM
Some above have surmised that perhaps David is "in the video" but not on the track due to the fact I reported he wasn't at the initial "Do It Again" vocal session months ago. But there were multiple sessions, or multiple days of recording and filming. I can confirm David did record multiple guitar tracks for this recording at Brian and Mike's request. I am not exactly sure what order everything came together in...but all the boys are on the track.
that is great news!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: meltedwhiskeyinmyhand on December 16, 2011, 02:32:04 PM
1 - permission to be exceedingly smug for about a week...

2 - will those already picking it apart kindly SHUT THE f*ck UP. Don't like the idea, fine, just go away and leve those of us who can to enjoy the prospect.

I'll second that, its only rock n roll folks.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on December 16, 2011, 02:32:14 PM
Some above have surmised that perhaps David is "in the video" but not on the track due to the fact I reported he wasn't at the initial "Do It Again" vocal session months ago. But there were multiple sessions, or multiple days of recording and filming. I can confirm David did record multiple guitar tracks for this recording at Brian and Mike's request. I am not exactly sure what order everything came together in...but all the boys are on the track.

Awesome!  We have half of the original guitar sound back.  Bravo to Brian and Mike for having David play.  Kind of a no brainer though seeing he's such a great guitar player.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: pixletwin on December 16, 2011, 02:32:37 PM
Some people need to realize that this isn't the rebirth, it's the last hurrah. Join in and enjoy while you can.

Well put. One thing the Beatles have the BB never had was a nice tidy end to their group-story. It's good to see that the BB are going to let one be written for them as well.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: The Shift on December 16, 2011, 02:33:20 PM
I wanna wade in 2012 right up to my neck.

New album, archive releases, re-union tour…  we all knew it but now we KNOW!   And so GLAD that Dave is on board. Authenticity and integrity!

Darn!

I want suggestions for the name of my new baby, due January 2, please guys! Gender to be confirmed!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: runnersdialzero on December 16, 2011, 02:35:32 PM

The Jeff hate is getting old, man. Really.

So is Jeff wailing over songs I love.

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They are dead and gone. For many years. Nothing would make the album less relevant (than it likely already will be) than pulling back-from-the-dead shtick.

We're talking two of 10-12 songs, here, and I doubt there's much mainstream appeal in "We brought Dennis (aka the guy you likely know as the dude who knew Charlie Manson if you know him at all) back from the dead!" like there was with the Beatles "We brought John motherfuckin' Lennon, world hero, back from the dead!"


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wirestone on December 16, 2011, 02:39:46 PM
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2 - will those already picking it apart kindly SHUT THE f*ck UP. Don't like the idea, fine, just go away and leave those of us who can to enjoy the prospect.

Andrew, we're Beach Boys fans. What else do we do besides pick things apart? And complain about Foskett?

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We're talking two of 10-12 songs, here, and I doubt there's much mainstream appeal in "We brought Dennis (aka the guy you likely know as the dude who knew Charlie Manson if you know him at all) back from the dead!" like there was with the Beatles "We brought John motherf*ckin' Lennon, world hero, back from the dead!"

This is a very good point. I could go for either the original Soul Searchin' or It's Still a Mystery, I suppose. Dennis seems harder, though ... so much more time has passed.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: 18thofMay on December 16, 2011, 02:41:54 PM
http://www.billboard.com/news/beach-boys-reunite-for-album-50-date-tour-1005690352.story#/news/beach-boys-reunite-for-album-50-date-tour-1005690352.story

Billboard. there is heaps of press about this!!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: runnersdialzero on December 16, 2011, 02:42:00 PM

This is a good point. I could go for either the original Soul Searchin' or It's Still a Mystery, I suppose. Dennis seems harder, though ... so much more time has passed.

I will say, if we're talking a Dennis track, there's potential for the "double-edged sword" element. Imagine "Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again?" on the new Beach Boys record, utilizing Dennis' vintage vocal, but the original still being left in the vaults.

Who knows. I do see the likelihood of Carl appearing being much stronger than Dennis.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Justin on December 16, 2011, 02:43:37 PM
I'm sure Carl or Dennis' presence will be felt during the performances on stage.  There are some creative opportunities to achieve this like having an image of them on the big screen during a particular song (or section of songs)---most likely "God Only Knows" for Carl and "Forever" for Dennis.  Paul McCartney did that for both George and John during his shows and was a nice way to pay homage to them.  


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Heysaboda on December 16, 2011, 02:43:47 PM
1 - permission to be exceedingly smug for about a week...

GRANTED!

 ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Micha on December 16, 2011, 02:48:25 PM
Some people need to realize that this isn't the rebirth, it's the last hurrah. Join in and enjoy while you can.

I'm happy to be around for the last hurrah. I'm afraid next year I will spend the highest amount of money ever for a single concert ticket...

Some people need to change their attitude. :(


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: drbeachboy on December 16, 2011, 02:54:47 PM
This is absolutely fantastic news on all fronts, and then within hours we are picking the whole thing apart. I also lost my best buddy today, my 14 year old dog, Rocky. It was great having a reason to celebrate on such a sad day for me and the wife.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SMiLE Brian on December 16, 2011, 02:55:26 PM
Must buy tickets to this tour! ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Mikie on December 16, 2011, 03:00:08 PM
This is absolutely fantastic news on all fronts, and then within hours we are picking the whole thing apart. I also lost my best buddy today, my 14 year old dog, Rocky. It was great having a reason to celebrate on such a sad day for me and the wife.

Sorry to hear about your dog, Doc.  Now he's up in dog heaven with Shannon......


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SMiLE Brian on December 16, 2011, 03:02:47 PM
This is absolutely fantastic news on all fronts, and then within hours we are picking the whole thing apart. I also lost my best buddy today, my 14 year old dog, Rocky. It was great having a reason to celebrate on such a sad day for me and the wife.
That stinks losing a friend like that, go listen to warmth of the sun :), maybe wrinkles. ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: elnombre on December 16, 2011, 03:03:03 PM
This is absolutely fantastic news on all fronts, and then within hours we are picking the whole thing apart. I also lost my best buddy today, my 14 year old dog, Rocky. It was great having a reason to celebrate on such a sad day for me and the wife.

Sorry to hear about your dog bro.  Good companions and good music. Stuff it takes to make a life, eh? Hope you get tickets for next year.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wirestone on December 16, 2011, 03:08:00 PM
Also, despite my crabbiness on this subject in the past, it's soul-warming to see David being part of this. If nothing else, this reunion will hopefully restore him to his rightful place.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Heysaboda on December 16, 2011, 03:08:23 PM
1 - permission to be exceedingly smug for about a week...

2 - will those already picking it apart kindly SHUT THE f*ck UP. Don't like the idea, fine, just go away and leave those of us who can to enjoy the prospect.

Andrew, So..... what's the title of their new album going to be?  You can tell me... Whisper it in my ear..... I won't tell anyone........

 ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Rocker on December 16, 2011, 03:08:51 PM
Some above have surmised that perhaps David is "in the video" but not on the track due to the fact I reported he wasn't at the initial "Do It Again" vocal session months ago. But there were multiple sessions, or multiple days of recording and filming. I can confirm David did record multiple guitar tracks for this recording at Brian and Mike's request. I am not exactly sure what order everything came together in...but all the boys are on the track.


That's very good. I don't like the way Brian uses saxophone for solos. It sounds very dated. The organ solo for "Soul searchin'" was great and the sax didn't do the song justice. More guitar solos would be cool, especially from Dave who - I assume - will be the lead guitarist for the reunion


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I'm sure Carl or Dennis' presence will be felt during the performances on stage.  There are some creative opportunities to achieve this like having an image of them on the big screen during a particular song (or section of songs)---most likely "God Only Knows" for Carl and "Forever" for Dennis.  Paul McCartney did that for both George and John during his shows and was a nice way to pay homage to them.  

Yes. Did you ever cath this (or basically the whole Elvis - The concert event) ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4bfdfFEVBU&feature=fvst (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4bfdfFEVBU&feature=fvst)

There could be something arranged. I don't know what but today there are possibilities.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Rocker on December 16, 2011, 03:09:23 PM
1 - permission to be exceedingly smug for about a week...

2 - will those already picking it apart kindly SHUT THE f*ck UP. Don't like the idea, fine, just go away and leave those of us who can to enjoy the prospect.

Andrew, So..... what's the title of their new album going to be?  You can tell me... Whisper it in my ear..... I won't tell anyone........

 ;D



Shut the f*ck up would be a pretty good title


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: krabklaw on December 16, 2011, 03:11:15 PM
The Wilson brothers' memory has been honored sufficiently elsewhere. Let's see what The Beach Boys 2012 sounds like without dwelling on Carl's & Dennis' legacy. A simple dedication in the liner notes should suffice.

I'm amazed that people would actively oppose the inclusion of one of Carl or Dennis' solo songs.

This is a commemoration of what this band *has* achieved. This is a band with a storied past, not a long future. Does 'Celebration' as the title for this campaign not give you a hint? If you oppose Brian paying tribute to his brothers or Mike paying tribute to his cousins if thats what they want to do all I can wonder is who the f*ck you think you are.
There's going to be re-packagings, best-ofs, tributes, and retrospectives galore to cover the entirety of the Beach Boys careers, Dennis and Carl included. It would be my preference that this ONE aspect of the "50 Year Celebration", a new Beach Boys 2012 album featuring Brian Wilson at the helm, could just live in the now, not the past. I mean, wouldn't we all just love to see one last great Beach Boys album made before they pack it in? I'm just concerned about the album becoming a maudlin nostalgia trip because they are capable of so much more than that. Of course the only people whose opinions really matter on the subject are the Beach Boys themselves- not mine or yours.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: shelter on December 16, 2011, 03:17:41 PM
Has there ever in the last 50 years been a better and more satisfying time to be a Beach Boys fan than right now? I think not.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Justin on December 16, 2011, 03:19:02 PM


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I'm sure Carl or Dennis' presence will be felt during the performances on stage.  There are some creative opportunities to achieve this like having an image of them on the big screen during a particular song (or section of songs)---most likely "God Only Knows" for Carl and "Forever" for Dennis.  Paul McCartney did that for both George and John during his shows and was a nice way to pay homage to them.  

Yes. Did you ever cath this (or basically the whole Elvis - The concert event) ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4bfdfFEVBU&feature=fvst (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4bfdfFEVBU&feature=fvst)

There could be something arranged. I don't know what but today there are possibilities.


Yes in fact I did see Elvis The Concert (Elvis on the big screen with lead vocal isolated out of the video while his original bad played live on stage) and I thoroughly enjoyed it--mainly because I greatly admire and respect the musicians that played with Elvis.  

Doing something like that for The Beach Boys would be very entertaining but incredibly controversial.  Unfortunately, I think the mass wave of uneasiness from the hardcore fans (and probably by certain members of the band) would sway them not to do this.  I highly doubt they'll go this direction considering this will probably take away from the main focus of the evening.  They might have a mix of pictures and footage on the screens of Carl and Dennis but a full blown performance with either of them might be a little to intrusive for everyone....


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 16, 2011, 03:20:45 PM
The Beach Boys are playing the first weekend of the New Orleans Jazz  & Heritage Festival, April 27th-29th. Just sayin'.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 16, 2011, 03:21:59 PM
Has there ever in the last 50 years been a better and more satisfying time to be a Beach Boys fan than right now? I think not.

As Bill Cowher used to say, "where would you rather be than right here, right now ?"


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Rocker on December 16, 2011, 03:32:42 PM


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I'm sure Carl or Dennis' presence will be felt during the performances on stage.  There are some creative opportunities to achieve this like having an image of them on the big screen during a particular song (or section of songs)---most likely "God Only Knows" for Carl and "Forever" for Dennis.  Paul McCartney did that for both George and John during his shows and was a nice way to pay homage to them.  

Yes. Did you ever cath this (or basically the whole Elvis - The concert event) ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4bfdfFEVBU&feature=fvst (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4bfdfFEVBU&feature=fvst)

There could be something arranged. I don't know what but today there are possibilities.


Yes in fact I did see Elvis The Concert (Elvis on the big screen with lead vocal isolated out of the video while his original bad played live on stage) and I thoroughly enjoyed it--mainly because I greatly admire and respect the musicians that played with Elvis.  

Doing something like that for The Beach Boys would be very entertaining but incredibly controversial.  Unfortunately, I think the mass wave of uneasiness from the hardcore fans (and probably by certain members of the band) would sway them not to do this.  I highly doubt they'll go this direction considering this will probably take away from the main focus of the evening.  They might have a mix of pictures and footage on the screens of Carl and Dennis but a full blown performance with either of them might be a little to intrusive for everyone....


I was thinking of just one song. There are several GOK's on video and I guess some Dennis leads as well. But I only wanted to say that there are possibilities and that it has been done and so it is something that has to be taken seriously


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SMiLE Brian on December 16, 2011, 03:33:54 PM
Has there ever in the last 50 years been a better and more satisfying time to be a Beach Boys fan than right now? I think not.

As Bill Cowher used to say, "where would you rather be than right here, right now ?"
Well said by Mr. Cowher, so excitied to be a fan with all this activity. If this all goes to plan, The Beach Boys will go out on top with a redeemed music reputation.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: elnombre on December 16, 2011, 03:37:11 PM
Has there ever in the last 50 years been a better and more satisfying time to be a Beach Boys fan than right now? I think not.

As Bill Cowher used to say, "where would you rather be than right here, right now ?"
Well said by Mr. Cowher, so excitied to be a fan with all this activity. If this all goes to plan, The Beach Boys will go out on top with a redeemed music reputation.

Nothing to lose and everything to gain. It had ended before, now's a chance to end things right.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: stack-o-tracks on December 16, 2011, 03:39:49 PM
I dont' think they're going to "end" things,  I think the myke luv phreak sho sircus will continue touring long past the point their physical bodies will be replaced by imagineered anamatronic robots sponsored by Disney.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: kwan_dk on December 16, 2011, 03:45:23 PM
Oh man, this is such mindblowingly great news. I've seen Brian and Mike & Bruce with their respective bands - the possibility of seeing them together with Al and David is fantastic! Christmas has come early this year!

I wonder also how Brian-centric the album is going to be. Is it going to be all Brian songs (with some Mike lyrics), or will Al or Bruce actually contribute any writing? Maybe hold back that “Waves of Love” track of Al’s for this Beach Boys album to have Carl on it?

Yep, it will definately be interesting to see if this turns out to have Brian & Mike writing credits all over it like I suspect it will or if the other guys get some stuff on there.

Hey, Brian and Mike, if you have writer's block and are reading this, cover some songs of the band I'm in, ha ha!  ;D  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4NLSdTfKsg


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: mtaber on December 16, 2011, 03:47:08 PM
Andrew- that quote is from Marv Levy, not Bill Cowher...


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: astroray on December 16, 2011, 03:51:38 PM
Will Bruce be on stage or in the audience?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: stack-o-tracks on December 16, 2011, 04:01:25 PM
Will Bruce be on stage or in the audience?

His job is to find a replacement for Brian Wilson in the touring group.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on December 16, 2011, 04:10:10 PM
Will Bruce be on stage or in the audience?

Sorry if somebody has posted this already.  It has the most info of anything I've read:

http://www.thebeachboys.com/reunion/index.html

http://blog.brianwilson.com/news/

I'm liking the new logo!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 16, 2011, 04:10:39 PM
Andrew- that quote is from Marv Levy, not Bill Cowher...

I've only ever heard Cowher say it.  ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on December 16, 2011, 05:06:27 PM
Will Bruce be on stage or in the audience?

Wow, quick work astroray on using the new logo for your member photo  ;)

(http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu268/surfriderhi/NewLOGO.jpg)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on December 16, 2011, 05:09:38 PM
Will Bruce be on stage or in the audience?

His job is to find a replacement for Brian Wilson in the touring group.

Fender is hard at work on a "Tandem Bass" for Bruce and Brian to both stand and play at the same time.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Eric Aniversario on December 16, 2011, 05:45:10 PM
Didn't read through all the replies yet, but I agree with those who are hoping that re-makes will be kept to a minimum.  But if they HAD to do some re-makes, I'd love to hear modern takes on California Saga-California and Soulful Old Man Sunshine.

I'm also glad that real instruments are being used!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: b00ts on December 16, 2011, 06:16:36 PM
The Wilson brothers' memory has been honored sufficiently elsewhere. Let's see what The Beach Boys 2012 sounds like without dwelling on Carl's & Dennis' legacy. A simple dedication in the liner notes should suffice.

I'm amazed that people would actively oppose the inclusion of one of Carl or Dennis' solo songs.

This is a commemoration of what this band *has* achieved. This is a band with a storied past, not a long future. Does 'Celebration' as the title for this campaign not give you a hint? If you oppose Brian paying tribute to his brothers or Mike paying tribute to his cousins if thats what they want to do all I can wonder is who the f*ck you think you are.
Elnombre, I am a huge admirer of Carl and Dennis, and I see your point. However, I think you are looking at this far too emotionally. Nobody is saying "Carl and Dennis don't deserve to be remembered!"

The impact that Carl and Dennis had on the Beach Boys sound will forever be felt in every performance the band does and every record they put out. If the group finds a track or two or three (like 'You're Still a Mystery') that fits with the production aesthetic of the new album and includes a Carl and/or Dennis vocal, they should certainly use it and I would be thrilled to have 'one last track' with Carl and Dennis.

Hell, I loved "Free as a Bird" and "Real Love." I wish the Beatles had done more of those types of tracks. However, those new Beatles songs were not meant to work in the context of a new album. If the Beach Boys (and Brian as producer) can't find something with Carl or Dennis that fits into the production aesthetic of the new Beach Boys album, or the songwriting style, they will be serving the product in the best possible way by not arbitrarily shoehorning material into it.

There are a million ways to remember people. Finishing one of their old songs is one way, paying musical homage to them in subtler ways is another option, and doing an onstage tribute and a special remembrance in the liner notes are no-brainers. Witness Christian Love's performance of "God Only Knows" that was posted last week. A performance like that is a great way to remember Carl.

Taking sub-par or out-of-place material and tacking it on to the album is not a good way to remember Dennis and Carl. As fastidious as he was, acting as The Beach Boys' de facto leader and producer for many years, I'm sure Carl would agree if he were alive today. The most important thing is that this Beach Boys album is the best it can be. If that can include Carl and Dennis, I will be very excited. My vote is for "You're Still a Mystery" but I don't know what else they're working with song-wise.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wirestone on December 16, 2011, 06:19:10 PM
And it looks like Scott Totten is reading this thread right now! Tell us everything!

Also -- do we think Dean Torrence did the logo?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jim V. on December 16, 2011, 06:24:05 PM
This is absolutely fantastic news on all fronts, and then within hours we are picking the whole thing apart. I also lost my best buddy today, my 14 year old dog, Rocky. It was great having a reason to celebrate on such a sad day for me and the wife.

I'm sorry to hear about your dog.  My thoughts are with you drbeachboy.

About the reunion, I gotta say I'm most excited about the prospect of hearing "new" stuff from the '60s and '70s. I don't know if they'll do deluxe editions, but I think if we did get Sunflower and Surf's Up in deluxe packages, I think we would really be in for a treat. A box set sounds somewhat interesting, but I'm not sure if they could top the 1993 box, and do we really need it "updated" with songs from Summer in Paradise and Stars & Stripes? I suppose the box set is where they place new, unreleased songs, but I personally think a compilation containing about 20 to 30 of their top unreleased songs would be tops! I'm so excited to think that its possible I might be hearing songs like "Where Is She", "(Wouldn't It Be Nice) To Live Again" and the 1974 version of "California Feelin'." As long as I get to own copies of those three songs, anything else will just be icing on the cake.

The new studio album? Well, I'm excited for it, but I also can understand that it might not be very good. But I think having Brian on board with his team will ensure that it doesn't become a joke. I think this album will be the first since the L.A. Light Album that shows The Beach Boys as artists, and not surfin' goofs from the '60s.

I gotta admit, one thing really bugs me. And its not Mike Love. It's Bruce talking about singing "Mike Love's lyrics" or whatever. He always has to seem to kiss Mike's ass in these things. I just have this odd feeling that if they Mike & Bruce show did ever end, Bruce's tune would change quite quickly. He seems like a major kiss ass. And I'm not sure if he really brings anything that special to a reunion. I think Brian, Mike, Al and David, would have been fine with me. It's unfortunate the Blondie and Ricky aren't involved, but I'm not surprised. I do hope they get them at some point to do "Sail On Sailor" with them though on this tour.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Scott on December 16, 2011, 06:24:35 PM
And it looks like Scott Totten is reading this thread right now! Tell us everything!

Ha Ha Ha!!  I count on you guys for all the news.  It's been fun to read everyone say who played on the DO IT AGAIN track we did in May.

Scott


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: southbay on December 16, 2011, 06:27:49 PM
1 - permission to be exceedingly smug for about a week...

2 - will those already picking it apart kindly SHUT THE f*ck UP. Don't like the idea, fine, just go away and leave those of us who can to enjoy the prospect.

THIS


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wirestone on December 16, 2011, 06:36:50 PM
And it looks like Scott Totten is reading this thread right now! Tell us everything!

Ha Ha Ha!!  I count on you guys for all the news.  It's been fun to read everyone say who played on the DO IT AGAIN track we did in May.

Scott

So how wrong are we?  ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: ArchStanton on December 16, 2011, 06:40:50 PM
I can't say how I know but I just found out what the new compilation will be called..

"50 summer greats"

 ::)

Call it what you want, give us a couple of unreleased Dennis Wilson songs we've been waiting on it and a few others we haven't heard and I'll be very happy.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: stack-o-tracks on December 16, 2011, 06:48:31 PM
Funny how at :50 in the YouTube video it shows Al standing on some sort of box since I guess Ocean Way doesn't have adjustable microphones?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Zach95 on December 16, 2011, 06:53:45 PM
This...is...beyond words.

I'm so happy for everyone involved, and that I'll finally be able to see all of them in concert forever.  A new studio album! A new box set! I'm hoping they do something like what the Beatles did with their re-releases in 2009, I'd love to be able to buy every album, however unlikely that may be.  In any case...this has been an amazing year to be a fan  ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: jmc on December 16, 2011, 07:01:24 PM
Outstanding news.

The only lame development thus far, is the complaning about Foskett.  He sings great, Brian obviously doesn't mind his voice up in the mix for the falsetto part, and he helps Brian relax.....if you really don't like Jeff, then don't buy the album or go to the concert (but I doubt you'll do that)....

 


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Craig Boyd on December 16, 2011, 07:23:43 PM
1 - permission to be exceedingly smug for about a week...

2 - will those already picking it apart kindly SHUT THE f*ck UP. Don't like the idea, fine, just go away and leave those of us who can to enjoy the prospect.

You should stick your head round the door of the bloo Andrew, they're out in force there!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wirestone on December 16, 2011, 07:24:00 PM
I would love to know the backing band on this. I think we can assume that there has to be one. I'll just throw out some predictions.

Mike
Al (rhythm guitar)
David (lead surf guitar)
Bruce (keys)
Brian (keys during the show, bass for encores)

Foskett (guitar and falsetto)
Cowsill (drums and vocals)
Christian Love (guitar and vocals)
Totten (guitar and vocals)
Scott Bennett (keys, vocals)
Darian and / or Gary (might not be Darian's scene, but you need another backing keyboardist)
Ed Carter (bass -- I can dream, right?)
Probyn and Paul Mertens (maybe fantasy here, but I'd love live horns)

As much as I'd love to see more guys like Ed from the classic 70s live lineup (and folks who were in Jardine's band), I don't know how likely that is. But they were a really great ensemble.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Craig Boyd on December 16, 2011, 07:34:56 PM
Darian and / or Gary (might not be Darian's scene, but you need another backing keyboardist)

I can't see Darian being involved, not sure why but just a feeling. Saying that I think for a Beach Boys tour Billy Hinsche has to be a first call. Like Ed Carter he's kinda like extended family having been part of the band for so long.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Alex on December 16, 2011, 07:41:27 PM
Get Blondie, Ricky, Billy H., Carter, Figueroa, Munoz, Kowalski, and/or the Dragon Bros. back and hand the reigns to Jack Reiley...we`re goin` back to Holland!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Paulos on December 16, 2011, 07:45:12 PM
This is amazing, Brian and David back withe band, a tour and new album, commerative releases, I don't mind admitting that I was welling up whilst reading the press release. This going to be amazing, hope that WIBNTLA, California Feelin' and Carry Me Home are going to be on the new bo set. I'm going to be so broke net year!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: doc smiley on December 16, 2011, 07:53:15 PM
so pumped for this..... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: JohnMill on December 16, 2011, 07:56:12 PM
This is amazing, Brian and David back withe band, a tour and new album, commerative releases, I don't mind admitting that I was welling up whilst reading the press release. This going to be amazing, hope that WIBNTLA, California Feelin' and Carry Me Home are going to be on the new bo set. I'm going to be so broke net year!

Same here with Beach Boys, Bruce Springsteen and Tom Petty all touring next year (and all likely with new records & or retrospective releases to boot) I'm going to be flat broke by year's end. 


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Paulos on December 16, 2011, 08:07:03 PM
Also I will never again doubt anything Al Jardine says - he's the one who (somewhat pre-emptively) first told us about TSS and the reunion, all hail Al!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: puni puni on December 16, 2011, 08:15:54 PM
apart from the inevitable "i guess it would be nice to believe in my shoulder," i really am not excited for a mike love solo album with guest vocals by brian wilson.

sorry, but watching grey-haired men sing about fun in the sun around instantly dated technology with spliced footage of young blondes on the beach sure does make you feel like it's 1991 instead of 2011.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: pmugghc on December 16, 2011, 08:22:03 PM
I really hope we'll get a good dosage of live recordings as part of the Celebration 50 packages. Especially some rare tracks,. e.g. "I have a friend", "River Song" and others.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 16, 2011, 08:26:00 PM
There's been very little discussion about the proposed box set and other archival releases, though as Mark Linett has said, whether they happen is up to EMI's new owner. Anyhow, we recently got a 5-CD "Smile" box, and many other archival releases(official & unofficial) over the years. If there are more archival releases in 2012, I'll buy 'em, but if EMI's new owner says "No", I won't get tormented. Promise.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Awesoman on December 16, 2011, 08:52:52 PM
Faaaaaack:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS2orIE2QUQ&feature=digest_fri

That actually sounds pretty good

Sounds very dry and inoffensive. Not sure what to think about it. Probably could have turned out much worse.

Think somebody needs to turn down the AutoTune-like effect on Mike's voice.  Otherwise it sounds OK. 


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jim V. on December 16, 2011, 09:11:47 PM
There's been very little discussion about the proposed box set and other archival releases, though as Mark Linett has said, whether they happen is up to EMI's new owner. Anyhow, we recently got a 5-CD "Smile" box, and many other archival releases(official & unofficial) over the years. If there are more archival releases in 2012, I'll buy 'em, but if EMI's new owner says "No", I won't get tormented. Promise.

YAY! Here comes the cloud on a sunny day, otherwise known as Phil Cohen! I bet you hope Mike doesn't like Brian's new songs either!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on December 16, 2011, 09:21:25 PM
apart from the inevitable "i guess it would be nice to believe in my shoulder," i really am not excited for a mike love solo album with guest vocals by brian wilson.

sorry, but watching grey-haired men sing about fun in the sun around instantly dated technology with spliced footage of young blondes on the beach sure does make you feel like it's 1991 instead of 2011.

at least in 1991 there was no Summer In Paradise or Summer Of Love yet!  :lol

But wait, I love Summer Of Love  :o


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 16, 2011, 09:23:09 PM
There's been very little discussion about the proposed box set and other archival releases, though as Mark Linett has said, whether they happen is up to EMI's new owner. Anyhow, we recently got a 5-CD "Smile" box, and many other archival releases(official & unofficial) over the years. If there are more archival releases in 2012, I'll buy 'em, but if EMI's new owner says "No", I won't get tormented. Promise.

YAY! Here comes the cloud on a sunny day, otherwise known as Phil Cohen! I bet you hope Mike doesn't like Brian's new songs either!

You misunderstand. We've already received more archival product from The Beach Boys than we ever thought we would get. If there's more in 2012, that's the icing on the cake, but it's hardly negative or cloud-like to say that if the 2012 archival product doesn't happen that I won't be tormented. I did say, that if these discs are released, I'll buy 'em.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wirestone on December 16, 2011, 09:30:17 PM
There's been very little discussion about the proposed box set and other archival releases, though as Mark Linett has said, whether they happen is up to EMI's new owner. Anyhow, we recently got a 5-CD "Smile" box, and many other archival releases(official & unofficial) over the years. If there are more archival releases in 2012, I'll buy 'em, but if EMI's new owner says "No", I won't get tormented. Promise.

YAY! Here comes the cloud on a sunny day, otherwise known as Phil Cohen! I bet you hope Mike doesn't like Brian's new songs either!

Actually, I'll be surprised and impressed if all this comes to pass too.

I can think of ways that each and every item mentioned in the press release could fail to materialize. The fact the album is still being recorded fills me with a teensy bit of apprehension, for one thing (as does the fact it includes Mike-Brian co-writes). Is Brian up for a 50-date tour? That's more shows than he has averaged as a solo artist, and these will be higher-profile affairs. And finally, will Cap/EMI spring for the kind of projects we all want to see?

At the very least, I'm sure there will be a new hits compilation. We can agree on that.

Edit:

But I'm being negative.

I am actually happy that this is working out the way it seems to. There is respect for everyone involved, it's not taking an overt fun in the sun direction, and there is new music as part of the package. And David is involved. As long as we have a great band for the live shows, there is also a great deal to be hopeful for. A great deal.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jim V. on December 16, 2011, 09:49:51 PM
I'll be honest. I'm nervous that it will all happen too. But I'll say I'm confident that the new album and tour will definitely happen. And I'm nearly positive we'll get another hits package.

As far as reissues, I think it would be totally awesome to have all the albums with bonus material. But if not all, I think it would be cool if they at least gave us deluxe versions of some of their best: Today!, Sunflower and Surf's Up. That would be cool.

The box set does kinda seem unlikely, because their is already a comprehensive set out there that is only missing Summer in Paradise and Stars & Stripes. But if they do put it out, I'm sure they will put some interesting previously unreleased tracks on there, although I think I'd prefer previously unreleased stuff on an album by themselves, or added to deluxe versions of the albums, but I'll happy accept whatever they put out!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wirestone on December 16, 2011, 09:53:30 PM
I would really like a complete albums box, with mono and stereo, and some discs of rarities thrown in there. No one could afford it, but it would be an awesome package. I guess the one issue would be whether to include SIP or S&S ... I mean, if you really tried, you could make a case for those albums with some of the British retakes on the former and some recorded but unreleased stuff on the latter, but that seems like a lot of effort.

I just hope the new album is good. Anything else can (and will) be forgiven if it's even halfway decent.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: letsmakeit31 on December 16, 2011, 10:02:30 PM
It's 6am now in the U.K and I've just woken up. The first thing I'm doing right now is checking all of the comments from you all :lol. 2012 is going to be an amazing year for us all. And if as some mad people believe the world will end on 21st dec 2012, then I say let it Smile has be released, Beach Boys are whole again & touring nothing could really top the last few years as a Beach Boys fan ;).


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: JohnMill on December 16, 2011, 10:18:18 PM
apart from the inevitable "i guess it would be nice to believe in my shoulder," i really am not excited for a mike love solo album with guest vocals by brian wilson.

sorry, but watching grey-haired men sing about fun in the sun around instantly dated technology with spliced footage of young blondes on the beach sure does make you feel like it's 1991 instead of 2011.

With all due respect I think you are grossly missing the point as to a major part of The Beach Boys appeal.  The Beach Boys are California period.  To this day their image and legacy represents everything that is good and right about the "California Dream" that they basically established from the ground up in the sixties.  Before it all became phony, before we had paparazzi on every corner taking photographs of young starlets of whom they know nothing about other than they should be taking photos of them because it results in big bucks, before the era of crass commercialism and the rise of the new media there was something very real going on in California and this band extolled those virtues and exploitations in song.

The fact that they now have grey hair and wrinkles doesn't make The Beach Boys any less real than they were fifty years ago.  In fact given how times have changed in the past fifty years, you could argue that they are one of the most real deals out there.  They have never professed to do anything else other than represent the lure of California, the surf, the weather, the women all with a grace and style that arguably has never been matched.  I think in a lot of ways that is what keeps us all coming back time and time again to these forty-fifty year old recordings because for many of us they represent something extremely real and honest, qualities that are rare to find in mainstream music today.  The nostalgia, the memories, the harmonies, the emotions are timeless due simply to the fact that the band and their music represents an innocent, unassuming portrayal of a time and a place that whether we lived through it first hand or just vicariously through the music of The Beach Boys is as inviting and genuine now as it was then.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Dunderhead on December 16, 2011, 10:24:27 PM
Does anybody want to do a meetup for the show closest to them? I'd love to go back stage and attend a meet and greet or something on this tour.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: vintagemusic on December 16, 2011, 11:16:36 PM
I'm very excited about the new album. I had no expectations they would ever do one.
So if there is one great song on there, well, that's worth the fifteen bucks to me.

If it turns out to be a great album, well so much the better, but I had zero expectation
so its all gravy, its all super.

Love the video.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Ron on December 16, 2011, 11:17:37 PM
Well I think this song sounds pretty fantastic.  I like how it has a 'different' sound, I haven't heard Brian or Mike sound like that, pretty much ever.  Mike kind of sounds like how he sounded on "cool head, warm heart" so maybe that's how he wants to sound in the studio now.  It's very soft and warm sounding, kind of a "friends" vibe.  This has the potential to be a great album.  

As for the autotune, etc. personally I dont' have dog ears enough to hear it, but again... nothing you ever hear, on any song, is authentic.  Even the early songs were done in numerous takes, had effects like reverb splashed all over them, were double tracked by the same person (which isn't natural) etc. so I never understood why people feel it's important that an album track sound like they were all standing in your living room singing it.  Of course they can't reproduce that live, exactly, it's a recording and as such has been manipulated.

Some of the best parts of live performances to me, are the parts that are changed to facilitate playing it live.  Brian's insistance on making the live performances exactly like the album recording isn't as important to me.  I'd much rather hear the band do it a little more raw when they perform live, much like how the boys did in the 70's... in the 70's the Beach Boys weren't afraid to mix things up in concert, play it too fast, sing the melody a bit different, etc.  I think that kind of stuff is interesting.

But  anyways, this is an awesome announcement and I'm really digging this new song.  


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Ron on December 16, 2011, 11:21:56 PM
apart from the inevitable "i guess it would be nice to believe in my shoulder," i really am not excited for a mike love solo album with guest vocals by brian wilson.

sorry, but watching grey-haired men sing about fun in the sun around instantly dated technology with spliced footage of young blondes on the beach sure does make you feel like it's 1991 instead of 2011.

With all due respect I think you are grossly missing the point as to a major part of The Beach Boys appeal.  The Beach Boys are California period.  To this day their image and legacy represents everything that is good and right about the "California Dream" that they basically established from the ground up in the sixties.  Before it all became phony, before we had paparazzi on every corner taking photographs of young starlets of whom they know nothing about other than they should be taking photos of them because it results in big bucks, before the era of crass commercialism and the rise of the new media there was something very real going on in California and this band extolled those virtues and exploitations in song.

The fact that they now have grey hair and wrinkles doesn't make The Beach Boys any less real than they were fifty years ago.  In fact given how times have changed in the past fifty years, you could argue that they are one of the most real deals out there.  They have never professed to do anything else other than represent the lure of California, the surf, the weather, the women all with a grace and style that arguably has never been matched.  I think in a lot of ways that is what keeps us all coming back time and time again to these forty-fifty year old recordings because for many of us they represent something extremely real and honest, qualities that are rare to find in mainstream music today.  The nostalgia, the memories, the harmonies, the emotions are timeless due simply to the fact that the band and their music represents an innocent, unassuming portrayal of a time and a place that whether we lived through it first hand or just vicariously through the music of The Beach Boys is as inviting and genuine now as it was then.

Thank you John.  You really get it.  I never understood why people think that just because somebody gets older, they should start acting old.  Here's a hint: Mike Love still likes 20 year olds in bikinis.  He may not be able to do anything about it, but he's still the same guy, literally, that wrote and sang all those songs back then.  Brian to a lesser extent is too.  There's nothing wrong with old men singing about fun in the sun, like John said they're the real deal man, what they're talking about is what everybody feels it's just some don't remember what it's like to be young and in love. 


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Ron on December 16, 2011, 11:26:12 PM
1 - permission to be exceedingly smug for about a week...

Andrew you're smug every week, are you just saying you dont' want us to call you out on it this week? lol



Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jay on December 16, 2011, 11:31:12 PM
i may be in the minority, but I think it would be nice if they recorded a version of "I've Got A Friend". I think Brian singing it in his mid range "mature" voice with a simple piano backing would be quite nice to hear.  :)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wirestone on December 16, 2011, 11:46:30 PM
apart from the inevitable "i guess it would be nice to believe in my shoulder," i really am not excited for a mike love solo album with guest vocals by brian wilson.

sorry, but watching grey-haired men sing about fun in the sun around instantly dated technology with spliced footage of young blondes on the beach sure does make you feel like it's 1991 instead of 2011.

With all due respect I think you are grossly missing the point as to a major part of The Beach Boys appeal.  The Beach Boys are California period.  To this day their image and legacy represents everything that is good and right about the "California Dream" that they basically established from the ground up in the sixties.  Before it all became phony, before we had paparazzi on every corner taking photographs of young starlets of whom they know nothing about other than they should be taking photos of them because it results in big bucks, before the era of crass commercialism and the rise of the new media there was something very real going on in California and this band extolled those virtues and exploitations in song.

The fact that they now have grey hair and wrinkles doesn't make The Beach Boys any less real than they were fifty years ago.  In fact given how times have changed in the past fifty years, you could argue that they are one of the most real deals out there.  They have never professed to do anything else other than represent the lure of California, the surf, the weather, the women all with a grace and style that arguably has never been matched.  I think in a lot of ways that is what keeps us all coming back time and time again to these forty-fifty year old recordings because for many of us they represent something extremely real and honest, qualities that are rare to find in mainstream music today.  The nostalgia, the memories, the harmonies, the emotions are timeless due simply to the fact that the band and their music represents an innocent, unassuming portrayal of a time and a place that whether we lived through it first hand or just vicariously through the music of The Beach Boys is as inviting and genuine now as it was then.

See, I just can't go there. And maybe that's why, as much as I'm interested in seeing what the group does in the studio, and excited as I am that they'll be getting some serious attention with the tour, the whole reunion thing has me a bit confounded.

You see, I don't care about California. I just don't. Never been there, never particularly care if I go there. I understand it's important to the music as a concept and a point of reference. But I often like the music in spite of what it's about. And that's why I get on board around the time of "Today," because most songs begin to be about relationships (widely relate-able) as opposed to surfing or SoCal culture.

So the Beach Boys really don't mean anything to me in that cultural context. They mean a lot to me as a parable of rise, fall and redemption, and of vocal harmony mixing with complementary genres. They mean a lot to me as experimental pop music. No other music I've heard gives me quite the same tingle. But it's not because of California.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: pmugghc on December 16, 2011, 11:50:02 PM
i may be in the minority, but I think it would be nice if they recorded a version of "I've Got A Friend". I think Brian singing it in his mid range "mature" voice with a simple piano backing would be quite nice to hear.  :)

That would be awesome! Plus a live version with Dennis on lead.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jay on December 17, 2011, 12:01:20 AM
Imagine that you're at a Beach Boys reunion show, and they call for an intermission about an hour into the show. After 15 minutes or so, all of the surviving members of "The Wrecking Crew" and "The Funk Brothers" join the Beach Boys, along with Van Dyke Parks, for an impromptu SMiLE set. Talk about a mindf*ck.  ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Ebb and Flow on December 17, 2011, 12:03:48 AM
See, I just can't go there. And maybe that's why, as much as I'm interested in seeing what the group does in the studio, and excited as I am that they'll be getting some serious attention with the tour, the whole reunion thing has me a bit confounded.

You see, I don't care about California. I just don't. Never been there, never particularly care if I go there. I understand it's important to the music as a concept and a point of reference. But I often like the music in spite of what it's about. And that's why I get on board around the time of "Today," because most songs begin to be about relationships (widely relate-able) as opposed to surfing or SoCal culture.

So the Beach Boys really don't mean anything to me in that cultural context. They mean a lot to me as a parable of rise, fall and redemption, and of vocal harmony mixing with complementary genres. They mean a lot to me as experimental pop music. No other music I've heard gives me quite the same tingle. But it's not because of California.

The Beach Boys are inextricably linked to mid-century modernism and California culture...yes, even their introspective stuff like Today! and Pet Sounds.  Be it about surfing, cars and girls or loneliness and isolation, Brian's music is the sound of Los Angeles.  It's all right if you don't connect to that aspect of the group, but to deny it outright?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Ron on December 17, 2011, 12:15:15 AM
apart from the inevitable "i guess it would be nice to believe in my shoulder," i really am not excited for a mike love solo album with guest vocals by brian wilson.

sorry, but watching grey-haired men sing about fun in the sun around instantly dated technology with spliced footage of young blondes on the beach sure does make you feel like it's 1991 instead of 2011.

With all due respect I think you are grossly missing the point as to a major part of The Beach Boys appeal.  The Beach Boys are California period.  To this day their image and legacy represents everything that is good and right about the "California Dream" that they basically established from the ground up in the sixties.  Before it all became phony, before we had paparazzi on every corner taking photographs of young starlets of whom they know nothing about other than they should be taking photos of them because it results in big bucks, before the era of crass commercialism and the rise of the new media there was something very real going on in California and this band extolled those virtues and exploitations in song.

The fact that they now have grey hair and wrinkles doesn't make The Beach Boys any less real than they were fifty years ago.  In fact given how times have changed in the past fifty years, you could argue that they are one of the most real deals out there.  They have never professed to do anything else other than represent the lure of California, the surf, the weather, the women all with a grace and style that arguably has never been matched.  I think in a lot of ways that is what keeps us all coming back time and time again to these forty-fifty year old recordings because for many of us they represent something extremely real and honest, qualities that are rare to find in mainstream music today.  The nostalgia, the memories, the harmonies, the emotions are timeless due simply to the fact that the band and their music represents an innocent, unassuming portrayal of a time and a place that whether we lived through it first hand or just vicariously through the music of The Beach Boys is as inviting and genuine now as it was then.

See, I just can't go there. And maybe that's why, as much as I'm interested in seeing what the group does in the studio, and excited as I am that they'll be getting some serious attention with the tour, the whole reunion thing has me a bit confounded.

You see, I don't care about California. I just don't. Never been there, never particularly care if I go there. I understand it's important to the music as a concept and a point of reference. But I often like the music in spite of what it's about. And that's why I get on board around the time of "Today," because most songs begin to be about relationships (widely relate-able) as opposed to surfing or SoCal culture.

So the Beach Boys really don't mean anything to me in that cultural context. They mean a lot to me as a parable of rise, fall and redemption, and of vocal harmony mixing with complementary genres. They mean a lot to me as experimental pop music. No other music I've heard gives me quite the same tingle. But it's not because of California.

The point is: you don't have to love California, you just have to respect how much the boys love California.  To me, I see it as a beautiful thing how they represent where they grew up and what they experienced.

It's like listening to Bob Marley.  He represents the rastafarian life, I don't smoke weed, I don't have dreads, and I never will.  When I hear Bob Marley sing though, I have a deep respect for how much he loved what he was about and where he was from.  It's beautiful and it made his music exponentially better. 

Or hearing Lynyrd Skynyrd sing "Sweet Home Alabama".  I don't want to live in Alabama, don't see anything particularly great about Alabama, but damn I love that song and I love hearing those guys (and girls) be so excited about the place they call home.  It makes the song much better than it would be on it's own. 


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 17, 2011, 12:21:34 AM
There's been very little discussion about the proposed box set and other archival releases, though as Mark Linett has said, whether they happen is up to EMI's new owner. Anyhow, we recently got a 5-CD "Smile" box, and many other archival releases(official & unofficial) over the years. If there are more archival releases in 2012, I'll buy 'em, but if EMI's new owner says "No", I won't get tormented. Promise.

Phil, your secret's out - you can't read, can you ? Look at the OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE again, or get someone to read it to you, properly this time. We're getting...

A new hits compilation...

A new career-spanning box set...

Other new commemorative releases.

This isn't if/but/maybe. Like they said about TSS, it's happening. And despite your best (in fact, utterly pathetic) efforts, TSS did happen. Stop pissing on everyone's fire, go over to the Bloo and join in the unison bleating over there.

Like I said, them as can't be positive about this initial news, STFU and go away. We can begin the picking when we have more details.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Ron on December 17, 2011, 12:23:45 AM
Preach it brother!!! Beat them haters back!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 17, 2011, 12:26:11 AM
1 - permission to be exceedingly smug for about a week...

Andrew you're smug every week, are you just saying you dont' want us to call you out on it this week? lol



I want to be smug with everyone's approval, for once.  :-D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Dunderhead on December 17, 2011, 12:34:18 AM
It's heartening to know that no matter what I can always come here and see the same old gang, having the same old arguments  :P

I was busy today and didn't really get much of a chance to ruminate on this, though I am really blown away. My mind is turning with all the possibilities. A full on box including every studio album would be really lavish. I probably couldn't afford it, but I'd still find a way, by hook or by crook, to get my hands on one.

I've been saying for a while that I'd like to see an "Alternate" series of reissues. The classic albums with new mixes, tracklistings etc. Rhino did one for T.Rex that I really liked, releasing all the albums with alternate cover arts/titles where all the standard tracks were replaced with demos and alternate versions. I think something like that would be awesome for the BB. An alternate version of 15 Big Ones with a revised tracklist and different mix could be really spectacular. A version of SU without the titletrack (perhaps with the title of Landlocked?) and Dennis' tracks restored? There are so many what ifs and could have beens in BB history a campaign like that could be a huge amount of fun, and could totally revamp how the band is perceived.


Also, Andrew, for just one time in your whole life, I will be ok with you being smug, if that's what you need to get it out of your system.  :P

Great news, great day.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: The Shift on December 17, 2011, 12:50:18 AM
Have at last had. Hance to listen through phones to the vid and have to say that the only individual voices I can discern are Mike's, Brian's and (presumably) Jeff's. Seems to be quite a massed chorus kicking in elsewhere. I hope we get to hear just the five together on the album and not have that special blend swamped out. Okay we'll always be without the tones of Dennis and Carl but that's no reason to over-egg this pudding.



Actually, let ME produce it...


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 17, 2011, 12:53:47 AM
There's been very little discussion about the proposed box set and other archival releases, though as Mark Linett has said, whether they happen is up to EMI's new owner. Anyhow, we recently got a 5-CD "Smile" box, and many other archival releases(official & unofficial) over the years. If there are more archival releases in 2012, I'll buy 'em, but if EMI's new owner says "No", I won't get tormented. Promise.

Phil, your secret's out - you can't read, can you ? Look at the OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE again, or get someone to read it to you, properly this time. We're getting...

A new hits compilation...

A new career-spanning box set...

Other new commemorative releases.

This isn't if/but/maybe. Like they said about TSS, it's happening. And despite your best (in fact, utterly pathetic) efforts, TSS did happen. Stop pissing on everyone's fire, go over to the Bloo and join in the unison bleating over there.

Like I said, them as can't be positive about this initial news, STFU and go away. We can begin the picking when we have more details.

Mr.Doe,

            You seem to be unaware of the Mark Linett/Alan Boyd interviews at a website called "Icon Fetch", where Mr.Linett was asked about future projects, and he did say that the status of such projects depends on EMI's new owners. I remind you that EMI is in a state of limbo at the moment pending European & North American government approval of Universal Music's purchase of EMI's recorded music division. In recent years, the American branch of Universal Music has totally abandoned releasing archival material(other than greatest hits projects with no unreleased material), and when the company's British affiliates do release an archival CD box set, U.S.A. Universal merely imports the British product instead of pressing a U.S.A. edition. Under Universal's ownership, Capitol(if the label continues at all) will be far less supportive of archival CD product. And, be reminded that the 5-CD "Smile Sessions" box didn't chart at all(though the 2-CD edition did chart briefly)
            From my standpoint, whether this archival product materialises at all, is not worth getting tormented over, and certainly not worth another online jousting match with you. We've been there, and done that. I'm willing to believe that the reunion album is going to happen, because it is already in the process of being recorded. As for the archival product, we'll see. Unless the archival product is rush released before the Universal Music purchase of EMI Records becomes finalised, whether these archival projects get released......will entirely be Universal Music's decision.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Dunderhead on December 17, 2011, 12:54:51 AM
Have at last had. Hance to listen through phones to the vid and have to say that the only individual voices I can discern are Mike's, Brian's and (presumably) Jeff's. Seems to be quite a massed chorus kicking in elsewhere. I hope we get to hear just the five together on the album and not have that special blend swamped out. Okay we'll always be without the tones of Dennis and Carl but that's no reason to over-egg this pudding.



Actually, let ME produce it...

They should do an essay contest, 500 words on why you want to produce the beach boys, winner gets to produce a new version of Summer In Paradise.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: letsmakeit31 on December 17, 2011, 01:08:39 AM
I tell you what would top this amazing news?, AGD & Fishmonk together at one of the concerts nxt year dancing & hugging each other :lol. Surely with everything good that's happened in the Beach Boys world over the last few years everyone will become brothers. Come on AGD & Fishmonk feel the love :lol.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on December 17, 2011, 01:10:38 AM
There's been very little discussion about the proposed box set and other archival releases, though as Mark Linett has said, whether they happen is up to EMI's new owner. Anyhow, we recently got a 5-CD "Smile" box, and many other archival releases(official & unofficial) over the years. If there are more archival releases in 2012, I'll buy 'em, but if EMI's new owner says "No", I won't get tormented. Promise.

Phil, your secret's out - you can't read, can you ? Look at the OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE again, or get someone to read it to you, properly this time. We're getting...

A new hits compilation...

A new career-spanning box set...

Other new commemorative releases.

This isn't if/but/maybe. Like they said about TSS, it's happening. And despite your best (in fact, utterly pathetic) efforts, TSS did happen. Stop pissing on everyone's fire, go over to the Bloo and join in the unison bleating over there.

Like I said, them as can't be positive about this initial news, STFU and go away. We can begin the picking when we have more details.

Mr.Doe,

            You seem to be unaware of the Mark Linett/Alan Boyd interviews at a website called "Icon Fetch", where Mr.Linett was asked about future projects, and he did say that the status of such projects depends on EMI's new owners. I remind you that EMI is in a state of limbo at the moment pending European & North American government approval of Universal Music's purchase of EMI's recorded music division. In recent years, the American branch of Universal Music has totally abandoned releasing archival material(other than greatest hits projects with no unreleased material), and when the company's British affiliates do release an archival CD box set, U.S.A. Universal merely imports the British product instead of pressing a U.S.A. edition. Under Universal's ownership, Capitol(if the label continues at all) will be far less supportive of archival CD product. And, be reminded that the 5-CD "Smile Sessions" box didn't chart at all(though the 2-CD edition did chart briefly)
            From my standpoint, whether this archival product materializes at all, is not worth getting tormented over, and certainly not worth another online jousting match with you. We've been there, and done that. I'm willing to believe that the reunion album is going to happen, because it is already in the process of being recorded. As for the archival product, we'll see. Unless the archival product is rush released before the Universal Music purchase of EMI Records becomes finalised, whether these archival projects get released......will entirely be Universal Music's decision.

I heard the interview too. Mark and Alan aren't about to jump the gun (unlike Al). They aren't idiots (not that Al is).  The selling of EMI didn't stop Smile.

 So, it's been officially announced so those releases WILL happen.  Mark and Alan , I wager, would answer different to that question today.  Smile has exceeded expectations sales wise.  Pink Floyd, the Who, the Stones are re-mining the gold for $$$$$.  Record companies see the profit.  It's a no brainer. It's obvious that this has been meticulously planned sequence of events.

Just enjoy the ride and hope for those unreleased Dennis songs.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 17, 2011, 01:13:27 AM
There's been very little discussion about the proposed box set and other archival releases, though as Mark Linett has said, whether they happen is up to EMI's new owner. Anyhow, we recently got a 5-CD "Smile" box, and many other archival releases(official & unofficial) over the years. If there are more archival releases in 2012, I'll buy 'em, but if EMI's new owner says "No", I won't get tormented. Promise.

Phil, your secret's out - you can't read, can you ? Look at the OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE again, or get someone to read it to you, properly this time. We're getting...

A new hits compilation...

A new career-spanning box set...

Other new commemorative releases.

This isn't if/but/maybe. Like they said about TSS, it's happening. And despite your best (in fact, utterly pathetic) efforts, TSS did happen. Stop pissing on everyone's fire, go over to the Bloo and join in the unison bleating over there.

Like I said, them as can't be positive about this initial news, STFU and go away. We can begin the picking when we have more details.

Mr.Doe,

            You seem to be unaware of the Mark Linett/Alan Boyd interviews at a website called "Icon Fetch", where Mr.Linett was asked about future projects, and he did say that the status of such projects depends on EMI's new owners.

Flag on the play right there - you're wrong. As usual. And, uh, if you're going to try to be patronising & condescending, let me tell you that, as a past master of that arcane art, your attempt is pitiful.

This 50th anniversary program (as announced) didn't suddenly emerge from a recent meeting of the principals: like TSS, I'm betting the whole 50th thing (tour, Smile, new box, new album etc...) has been in the works for months and, as they did with Smile, Capitol wouldn't risk ridicule by announcing something that's not going to happen. Also, remember that Capitol gave the OK to expand TSS from three to five CDs.

And Phil, you should be doing a small jig of joy - for once, something's been announced a goodly way in advance... oh, no, I forgot. Of course, now there's going to be a clampdown on any news (hopefully the ears I've whispered in will do just that, and thereby bug the piss out of you, which was my sole intent*).

Once again, we've had a hugely exciting announcement and you weigh in with with overwhelmingly negative comments. We know you can't think well of anything like this, been there before, and all had a good yuck when every last thing you cast doubt on came to happen. Seriously, go over to the Bloo, I gather there are folk of like mind. Just leave us to enjoy what's happening right now: we'll start dissecting it later, it what we do... but the difference is, we tend to wait until we have the material to hand as opposed to wailing it'll never happen.

[* OK, that's a lie, but if I could I damn well would  ;D]


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Dunderhead on December 17, 2011, 01:20:59 AM
I tell you what would top this amazing news?, AGD & Fishmonk together at one of the concerts nxt year dancing & hugging each other :lol. Surely with everything good that's happened in the Beach Boys world over the last few years everyone will become brothers. Come on AGD & Fishmonk feel the love :lol.

That's what's great about The Beach Boys and the fan community. To be serious for a second, I've never had much of a feeling of fraternity in my life. I've never really had a particularly close relationship with my own family, I don't have any brothers, and I've always had a habit of being sort of an outsider in life. I think that's what makes the beach boys so great for me, the sort of brotherly love that's in all the music, that makes me feel connected to the rest of the world, like I'm a very small part of that brotherly love that the Beach Boys share with everyone through their music. And that extends to everyone here, I very often feel like Andrew is the biggest lout in the entire world, but if I ever saw him walking down the street, I would take him by the arm and lead him into the nearest bar and buy him drinks until we were were arm in arm drunkenly singing Tears In The Morning.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: The Shift on December 17, 2011, 01:32:12 AM
Phil seems to be an obsessive compulsive denier. With a habit of trying to come across as a knowledgable commentator, when in fact he's just party to the same press releases as the rest of us. Still, it's a free world.

Phil, lighten up and share the moment with the rest of us, at its face value. Let yourself smile! ;)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Pretty Funky on December 17, 2011, 01:35:32 AM
Late logging on today but great news when I did.

As a big fan of the Brother years and logo I am very impressed with the 50th artwork we have seen and will be wearing that logo on official merchandise as soon as someone makes it available.

Nice job and good luck to all involved in the 50th next year.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 17, 2011, 01:35:43 AM
I tell you what would top this amazing news?, AGD & Fishmonk together at one of the concerts nxt year dancing & hugging each other :lol. Surely with everything good that's happened in the Beach Boys world over the last few years everyone will become brothers. Come on AGD & Fishmonk feel the love :lol.

That's what's great about The Beach Boys and the fan community. To be serious for a second, I've never had much of a feeling of fraternity in my life. I've never really had a particularly close relationship with my own family, I don't have any brothers, and I've always had a habit of being sort of an outsider in life. I think that's what makes the beach boys so great for me, the sort of brotherly love that's in all the music, that makes me feel connected to the rest of the world, like I'm a very small part of that brotherly love that the Beach Boys share with everyone through their music. And that extends to everyone here, I very often feel like Andrew is the biggest lout in the entire world, but if I ever saw him walking down the street, I would take him by the arm and lead him into the nearest bar and buy him drinks until we were were arm in arm drunkenly singing Tears In The Morning.

Exactly so. Over here in the UK we're lucky because geography allows regular fan gatherings and the sense of community is astonishing: to be in a room with a couple of hundred others knowing they're all as terminally afflicted as you are is close to a healing experience, if only for a few hours (as a sidebar, apparently in person I'm a really nice guy, or so I'm told. Go figure).

That's one reason why the likes of Cohen piss me off so much - the instant negativity. Yes, I'll pick holes in the new product, we all will, 'cause that's what we do, but we'll also celebrate the great bits. Balance, I believe it's called. This is great, great news, so let's celebrate, anticipate, and bitch when the time comes.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Dunderhead on December 17, 2011, 01:37:39 AM
I tell you what would top this amazing news?, AGD & Fishmonk together at one of the concerts nxt year dancing & hugging each other :lol. Surely with everything good that's happened in the Beach Boys world over the last few years everyone will become brothers. Come on AGD & Fishmonk feel the love :lol.

That's what's great about The Beach Boys and the fan community. To be serious for a second, I've never had much of a feeling of fraternity in my life. I've never really had a particularly close relationship with my own family, I don't have any brothers, and I've always had a habit of being sort of an outsider in life. I think that's what makes the beach boys so great for me, the sort of brotherly love that's in all the music, that makes me feel connected to the rest of the world, like I'm a very small part of that brotherly love that the Beach Boys share with everyone through their music. And that extends to everyone here, I very often feel like Andrew is the biggest lout in the entire world, but if I ever saw him walking down the street, I would take him by the arm and lead him into the nearest bar and buy him drinks until we were were arm in arm drunkenly singing Tears In The Morning.
(as a sidebar, apparently in person I'm a really nice guy, or so I'm told. Go figure)

I'm skeptical, to say the least!  ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 17, 2011, 01:39:19 AM
OK, just for you I'll carry on being a grinch.  BTW, check your inbox.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: D409 on December 17, 2011, 01:41:12 AM
There's been very little discussion about the proposed box set and other archival releases, though as Mark Linett has said, whether they happen is up to EMI's new owner. Anyhow, we recently got a 5-CD "Smile" box, and many other archival releases(official & unofficial) over the years. If there are more archival releases in 2012, I'll buy 'em, but if EMI's new owner says "No", I won't get tormented. Promise.

Phil, your secret's out - you can't read, can you ? Look at the OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE again, or get someone to read it to you, properly this time. We're getting...

A new hits compilation...

A new career-spanning box set...

Other new commemorative releases.

This isn't if/but/maybe. Like they said about TSS, it's happening. And despite your best (in fact, utterly pathetic) efforts, TSS did happen. Stop pissing on everyone's fire, go over to the Bloo and join in the unison bleating over there.

Like I said, them as can't be positive about this initial news, STFU and go away. We can begin the picking when we have more details.

Mr.Doe,

            You seem to be unaware of the Mark Linett/Alan Boyd interviews at a website called "Icon Fetch", where Mr.Linett was asked about future projects, and he did say that the status of such projects depends on EMI's new owners.

Flag on the play right there - you're wrong. As usual. And, uh, if you're going to try to be patronising & condescending, let me tell you that, as a past master of that arcane art, your attempt is pitiful.

This 50th anniversary program (as announced) didn't suddenly emerge from a recent meeting of the principals: like TSS, I'm betting the whole 50th thing (tour, Smile, new box, new album etc...) has been in the works for months and, as they did with Smile, Capitol wouldn't risk ridicule by announcing something that's not going to happen. Also, remember that Capitol gave the OK to expand TSS from three to five CDs.

And Phil, you should be doing a small jig of joy - for once, something's been announced a goodly way in advance... oh, no, I forgot. Of course, now there's going to be a clampdown on any news (hopefully the ears I've whispered in will do just that, and thereby bug the piss out of you, which was my sole intent*).

Once again, we've had a hugely exciting announcement and you weigh in with with overwhelmingly negative comments. We know you can't think well of anything like this, been there before, and all had a good yuck when every last thing you cast doubt on came to happen. Seriously, go over to the Bloo, I gather there are folk of like mind. Just leave us to enjoy what's happening right now: we'll start dissecting it later, it what we do... but the difference is, we tend to wait until we have the material to hand as opposed to wailing it'll never happen.

[* OK, that's a lie, but if I could I damn well would  ;D]
Well said, AGD !

Also I would've thought that Universal would only be delighted at the prospect of revenue associated with the Beach Boys' 50th anniversary - archival releases, box sets, reissues, etc. So I'd say that it's more likely than not that we'll see a veritable buzz of BB-related product and activity in 2012...quit with the negativity, bring it on, can't wait (too long  :) ) !!!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Sie W on December 17, 2011, 01:49:53 AM
This is great news, hoping that the may be at least one song by Mike in the style of "Cool Head,Warm Heart" my favourite of the 3 tracks on Songs From Here & Back.

Also hope that Matt and Christian are with the touring band next year, keep it in the family!
Hell get Justyn in as well!!!

Bring on 2012!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: letsmakeit31 on December 17, 2011, 02:03:28 AM
I tell you what would top this amazing news?, AGD & Fishmonk together at one of the concerts nxt year dancing & hugging each other :lol. Surely with everything good that's happened in the Beach Boys world over the last few years everyone will become brothers. Come on AGD & Fishmonk feel the love :lol.

That's what's great about The Beach Boys and the fan community. To be serious for a second, I've never had much of a feeling of fraternity in my life. I've never really had a particularly close relationship with my own family, I don't have any brothers, and I've always had a habit of being sort of an outsider in life. I think that's what makes the beach boys so great for me, the sort of brotherly love that's in all the music, that makes me feel connected to the rest of the world, like I'm a very small part of that brotherly love that the Beach Boys share with everyone through their music. And that extends to everyone here, I very often feel like Andrew is the biggest lout in the entire world, but if I ever saw him walking down the street, I would take him by the arm and lead him into the nearest bar and buy him drinks until we were were arm in arm drunkenly singing Tears In The Morning.
Yes well said Fishmonk, And I like to add that we all have are ups and downs in life. But since joining this board no matter what happens to me I know that their are still some good people in this world. Some of them have been very kind to me esp in giving me the chance to hear the whole of The 5cd Smile Sessions box set  ;D. The fan mixes from some of the guys on here are truely amazing too. We are all very lucky that so many great things are happening in the Beach Boys world :)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 17, 2011, 02:05:05 AM
Jesus, they just announced the tour & album on my local radio station news (96.4 The Eagle, based in Guildford) !  I just about fell off my chair laughing.  :lol


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: letsmakeit31 on December 17, 2011, 02:13:49 AM
I tell you what would top this amazing news?, AGD & Fishmonk together at one of the concerts nxt year dancing & hugging each other :lol. Surely with everything good that's happened in the Beach Boys world over the last few years everyone will become brothers. Come on AGD & Fishmonk feel the love :lol.

That's what's great about The Beach Boys and the fan community. To be serious for a second, I've never had much of a feeling of fraternity in my life. I've never really had a particularly close relationship with my own family, I don't have any brothers, and I've always had a habit of being sort of an outsider in life. I think that's what makes the beach boys so great for me, the sort of brotherly love that's in all the music, that makes me feel connected to the rest of the world, like I'm a very small part of that brotherly love that the Beach Boys share with everyone through their music. And that extends to everyone here, I very often feel like Andrew is the biggest lout in the entire world, but if I ever saw him walking down the street, I would take him by the arm and lead him into the nearest bar and buy him drinks until we were were arm in arm drunkenly singing Tears In The Morning.

Exactly so. Over here in the UK we're lucky because geography allows regular fan gatherings and the sense of community is astonishing: to be in a room with a couple of hundred others knowing they're all as terminally afflicted as you are is close to a healing experience, if only for a few hours (as a sidebar, apparently in person I'm a really nice guy, or so I'm told. Go figure).

That's one reason why the likes of Cohen piss me off so much - the instant negativity. Yes, I'll pick holes in the new product, we all will, 'cause that's what we do, but we'll also celebrate the great bits. Balance, I believe it's called. This is great, great news, so let's celebrate, anticipate, and bitch when the time comes.
Andrew your the reason why im on here :lol. I googled your name and it linked me to this board, and because I enjoyed reading your book, then your comments & I had to join.
How about organising a get together for any fans who will see The Beach Boys in London. I would like to meet you and anyone else on this board, swap stories, etc. I've never done any fans meetings before and would love to attend any  ;D.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Sie W on December 17, 2011, 02:18:16 AM
 Eagle FM these guys have 'The Love Crew' who go out promoting them!! Andrew hope you got your' Love' sticker in the rear window!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 17, 2011, 02:23:42 AM
I tell you what would top this amazing news?, AGD & Fishmonk together at one of the concerts nxt year dancing & hugging each other :lol. Surely with everything good that's happened in the Beach Boys world over the last few years everyone will become brothers. Come on AGD & Fishmonk feel the love :lol.

That's what's great about The Beach Boys and the fan community. To be serious for a second, I've never had much of a feeling of fraternity in my life. I've never really had a particularly close relationship with my own family, I don't have any brothers, and I've always had a habit of being sort of an outsider in life. I think that's what makes the beach boys so great for me, the sort of brotherly love that's in all the music, that makes me feel connected to the rest of the world, like I'm a very small part of that brotherly love that the Beach Boys share with everyone through their music. And that extends to everyone here, I very often feel like Andrew is the biggest lout in the entire world, but if I ever saw him walking down the street, I would take him by the arm and lead him into the nearest bar and buy him drinks until we were were arm in arm drunkenly singing Tears In The Morning.

Exactly so. Over here in the UK we're lucky because geography allows regular fan gatherings and the sense of community is astonishing: to be in a room with a couple of hundred others knowing they're all as terminally afflicted as you are is close to a healing experience, if only for a few hours (as a sidebar, apparently in person I'm a really nice guy, or so I'm told. Go figure).

That's one reason why the likes of Cohen piss me off so much - the instant negativity. Yes, I'll pick holes in the new product, we all will, 'cause that's what we do, but we'll also celebrate the great bits. Balance, I believe it's called. This is great, great news, so let's celebrate, anticipate, and bitch when the time comes.
Andrew your the reason why im on here :lol. I googled your name and it linked me to this board, and because I enjoyed reading your book, then your comments & I had to join.
How about organising a get together for any fans who will see The Beach Boys in London. I would like to meet you and anyone else on this board, swap stories, etc. I've never done any fans meetings before and would love to attend any  ;D.

Dammit man, where were you in September ? Dude called Wilson played the RFH.  Literally dozens of fans turned up. :lol

For sure, when the London/UK dates are announced, something will be arranged. Hopefully someone's got some smarts and doesn't schedule any London date for either June 2nd to 5th (Diamond Jubilee weekend) or July 27th to August 12th (Olympic Games).

Or when a friend who posts here is getting married.  ;D

Edit: this just popped up on my FB page. The very first Stomp Convention in Exeter, August 11th 1979.

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/377496_2790318487925_1557246834_2711231_1917013395_n.jpg)

Standing: Gerard Hubert, Dave Savagar, AGD, Roy Gudge, Mike Grant, Ann-Michelle Bowerman, Max Cripps, Eddy Feiken, Chris Metcalfe, John Porteous, Liz Smith & friend, Jaki Rothery.
Front row: Andrew Bainborough, Trevor Childs, Terry Needham & friend.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Autotune on December 17, 2011, 02:28:06 AM
I fail to understand the irrational hatred of Jeffery Foskett around here.

I don't think anyone hates him, but some of us are tired of hearing his voice mixed up front so prominently... Plus Christian just plain has a better Wilson sound (for obvious reasons).


Christian can't sing those parts. Period.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: letsmakeit31 on December 17, 2011, 02:33:35 AM
I tell you what would top this amazing news?, AGD & Fishmonk together at one of the concerts nxt year dancing & hugging each other :lol. Surely with everything good that's happened in the Beach Boys world over the last few years everyone will become brothers. Come on AGD & Fishmonk feel the love :lol.

That's what's great about The Beach Boys and the fan community. To be serious for a second, I've never had much of a feeling of fraternity in my life. I've never really had a particularly close relationship with my own family, I don't have any brothers, and I've always had a habit of being sort of an outsider in life. I think that's what makes the beach boys so great for me, the sort of brotherly love that's in all the music, that makes me feel connected to the rest of the world, like I'm a very small part of that brotherly love that the Beach Boys share with everyone through their music. And that extends to everyone here, I very often feel like Andrew is the biggest lout in the entire world, but if I ever saw him walking down the street, I would take him by the arm and lead him into the nearest bar and buy him drinks until we were were arm in arm drunkenly singing Tears In The Morning.

Exactly so. Over here in the UK we're lucky because geography allows regular fan gatherings and the sense of community is astonishing: to be in a room with a couple of hundred others knowing they're all as terminally afflicted as you are is close to a healing experience, if only for a few hours (as a sidebar, apparently in person I'm a really nice guy, or so I'm told. Go figure).

That's one reason why the likes of Cohen piss me off so much - the instant negativity. Yes, I'll pick holes in the new product, we all will, 'cause that's what we do, but we'll also celebrate the great bits. Balance, I believe it's called. This is great, great news, so let's celebrate, anticipate, and bitch when the time comes.
Andrew your the reason why im on here :lol. I googled your name and it linked me to this board, and because I enjoyed reading your book, then your comments & I had to join.
How about organising a get together for any fans who will see The Beach Boys in London. I would like to meet you and anyone else on this board, swap stories, etc. I've never done any fans meetings before and would love to attend any  ;D.

Dammit man, where were you in September ? Dude called Wilson played the RFH.  Literally dozens of fans turned up. :lol

For sure, when the London/UK dates are announced, something will be arranged. Hopefully someone's got some smarts and doesn't schedule any London date for either June 2nd to 5th (Diamond Jubilee weekend) or July 27th to August 12th (Olympic Games).

Or when a friend who posts here is getting married.  ;D
I wish I was there Andrew, But I'd lost my job & very nearly was made homeless during the Summer :(. It's been a nightmare year for me during 2011, But thankfully I'm now back on my feet with a new job and still in my rented home thank God :). 2012 is going to be a great year, 200yrs of Charles Dickens birth, Reforming of the Stone Roses, Beach Boys. Bring it on!!! ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 17, 2011, 02:39:24 AM
I tell you what would top this amazing news?, AGD & Fishmonk together at one of the concerts nxt year dancing & hugging each other :lol. Surely with everything good that's happened in the Beach Boys world over the last few years everyone will become brothers. Come on AGD & Fishmonk feel the love :lol.

That's what's great about The Beach Boys and the fan community. To be serious for a second, I've never had much of a feeling of fraternity in my life. I've never really had a particularly close relationship with my own family, I don't have any brothers, and I've always had a habit of being sort of an outsider in life. I think that's what makes the beach boys so great for me, the sort of brotherly love that's in all the music, that makes me feel connected to the rest of the world, like I'm a very small part of that brotherly love that the Beach Boys share with everyone through their music. And that extends to everyone here, I very often feel like Andrew is the biggest lout in the entire world, but if I ever saw him walking down the street, I would take him by the arm and lead him into the nearest bar and buy him drinks until we were were arm in arm drunkenly singing Tears In The Morning.

Exactly so. Over here in the UK we're lucky because geography allows regular fan gatherings and the sense of community is astonishing: to be in a room with a couple of hundred others knowing they're all as terminally afflicted as you are is close to a healing experience, if only for a few hours (as a sidebar, apparently in person I'm a really nice guy, or so I'm told. Go figure).

That's one reason why the likes of Cohen piss me off so much - the instant negativity. Yes, I'll pick holes in the new product, we all will, 'cause that's what we do, but we'll also celebrate the great bits. Balance, I believe it's called. This is great, great news, so let's celebrate, anticipate, and bitch when the time comes.
Andrew your the reason why im on here :lol. I googled your name and it linked me to this board, and because I enjoyed reading your book, then your comments & I had to join.
How about organising a get together for any fans who will see The Beach Boys in London. I would like to meet you and anyone else on this board, swap stories, etc. I've never done any fans meetings before and would love to attend any  ;D.

Dammit man, where were you in September ? Dude called Wilson played the RFH.  Literally dozens of fans turned up. :lol

For sure, when the London/UK dates are announced, something will be arranged. Hopefully someone's got some smarts and doesn't schedule any London date for either June 2nd to 5th (Diamond Jubilee weekend) or July 27th to August 12th (Olympic Games).

Or when a friend who posts here is getting married.  ;D
I wish I was there Andrew, But I'd lost my job & very nearly was made homeless during the Summer :(. It's been a nightmare year for me during 2011, But thankfully I'm now back on my feet with a new job and still in my rented home thank God :). 2012 is going to be a great year, 200yrs of Charles Dickens birth, Reforming of the Stone Roses, Beach Boys. Bring it on!!! ;D

Also 150th anniversary of Silver Billy Beldham's death !


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Autotune on December 17, 2011, 02:39:35 AM
Eddie Bayers definitely played the drums on Do It Again and David wasn't there, which means at least some of this footage is not from that session.

BUT WHATEVER! Why are we getting so nitpicky so early? the Beach Boys are back! I'm half thinking of making the trip to New Orleans just so I can see their debut reunion performance.

Are we sure there was only one session for the song? Maybe they made two different attemtps?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: letsmakeit31 on December 17, 2011, 02:40:51 AM
I tell you what would top this amazing news?, AGD & Fishmonk together at one of the concerts nxt year dancing & hugging each other :lol. Surely with everything good that's happened in the Beach Boys world over the last few years everyone will become brothers. Come on AGD & Fishmonk feel the love :lol.

That's what's great about The Beach Boys and the fan community. To be serious for a second, I've never had much of a feeling of fraternity in my life. I've never really had a particularly close relationship with my own family, I don't have any brothers, and I've always had a habit of being sort of an outsider in life. I think that's what makes the beach boys so great for me, the sort of brotherly love that's in all the music, that makes me feel connected to the rest of the world, like I'm a very small part of that brotherly love that the Beach Boys share with everyone through their music. And that extends to everyone here, I very often feel like Andrew is the biggest lout in the entire world, but if I ever saw him walking down the street, I would take him by the arm and lead him into the nearest bar and buy him drinks until we were were arm in arm drunkenly singing Tears In The Morning.

Exactly so. Over here in the UK we're lucky because geography allows regular fan gatherings and the sense of community is astonishing: to be in a room with a couple of hundred others knowing they're all as terminally afflicted as you are is close to a healing experience, if only for a few hours (as a sidebar, apparently in person I'm a really nice guy, or so I'm told. Go figure).

That's one reason why the likes of Cohen piss me off so much - the instant negativity. Yes, I'll pick holes in the new product, we all will, 'cause that's what we do, but we'll also celebrate the great bits. Balance, I believe it's called. This is great, great news, so let's celebrate, anticipate, and bitch when the time comes.
Andrew your the reason why im on here :lol. I googled your name and it linked me to this board, and because I enjoyed reading your book, then your comments & I had to join.
How about organising a get together for any fans who will see The Beach Boys in London. I would like to meet you and anyone else on this board, swap stories, etc. I've never done any fans meetings before and would love to attend any  ;D.

Dammit man, where were you in September ? Dude called Wilson played the RFH.  Literally dozens of fans turned up. :lol

For sure, when the London/UK dates are announced, something will be arranged. Hopefully someone's got some smarts and doesn't schedule any London date for either June 2nd to 5th (Diamond Jubilee weekend) or July 27th to August 12th (Olympic Games).

Or when a friend who posts here is getting married.  ;D
I wish I was there Andrew, But I'd lost my job & very nearly was made homeless during the Summer :(. It's been a nightmare year for me during 2011, But thankfully I'm now back on my feet with a new job and still in my rented home thank God :). 2012 is going to be a great year, 200yrs of Charles Dickens birth, Reforming of the Stone Roses, Beach Boys. Bring it on!!! ;D

Also 150th anniversary of Silver Billy Beldham's death !
Who is he Andrew??


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 17, 2011, 02:46:00 AM
Wikipedia is your friend.  ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: letsmakeit31 on December 17, 2011, 02:50:26 AM
Wikipedia is your friend.  ;D
"William ("Silver Billy") Beldham (5 February 1766, Wrecclesham, near Farnham, Surrey – 20 February 1862, Tilford, Surrey) was an English professional cricketer who is widely acknowledged as one of the greatest batsmen of the sport's underarm era. In 1997, he was selected by John Woodcock of The Times as one of his 100 Greatest Cricketers of All Time." Thank you Wikipedia  ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 17, 2011, 03:21:31 AM
Wikipedia is your friend.  ;D
"William ("Silver Billy") Beldham (5 February 1766, Wrecclesham, near Farnham, Surrey – 20 February 1862, Tilford, Surrey) was an English professional cricketer who is widely acknowledged as one of the greatest batsmen of the sport's underarm era. In 1997, he was selected by John Woodclock of The Times as one of his 100 Greatest Cricketers of All Time." Thank you Wikipedia  ;D

And thank you, me.  :lol

Now, how 'bout dem Beach Boys, eh ?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: vintagemusic on December 17, 2011, 03:37:33 AM
Wait a minute, is Phil Cohen slamming or naysaying again? I don't have time to read all 11 pages of this thread.
Phil man, chill out be cool,

The knowledge, cleverness and attention to arcane detail, has me impressed with this board. You guys
know everything about every record, concert, you name it. You know all the personal details and history
everything, its flabbergasting.

But what I don't get, presumably, this is a Beach Boy forum, so I assume if someone comes here, they like
the Beach Boys, and the solo albums, and would be delighted about a new studio album! A tour, additional
archival releases! WOW!

So many people were negative about SMiLE coming out, and now people are getting negative about the new
album, the reunion in general, the tour, why ? It makes no sense?


The surviving Beach Boys are all pushing 70, two of the Beach Boys are dead, but the surviving (5) members are making
a new album with new material! Holy Cow!  Listen these guys arguably were in their musical prime between say 1964-73
no one is expecting an album as good as Pet Sounds or SmiLE, but its a gift! Holy Cow! one more album! WOW

Now I can understand if you quibble about, well Joe Thomas is a lousy producer, or a great producer, or Jeff Fosket should be included
or not, or Mike Love was a good lyricist (for the Beach Boys) or just a very lucky guy. I mean discussion is cool, opinions vary, I never heard of
Joe Thomas except for the Imagination album, I thought the album was sort of bloated, but I thought the Title cut, and "She says that she needs me
were great tracks even worthy of the great Beach Boy albums, So yeah discussion is good, but this whole, oh it's not gonna happen, this sucks
this is the same stuff that was said about SMiLE and its one of the great archival releases ever, it came out and its great! Maybe one of the greatest
albums ever made, even though it wasn't quite finished, now you can hear it! Hurrah! Officially all shiny and clean with liner notes and packaging,

I also understand there is the Brian Wilson faction and the Mike Love faction, I don't really see what the debate is about, the only debate would be
this, The Beach Boys were all great singers, and they could all write a decent tune now and then, but the only one who is a genius or great composer
is Brian, the only debate really would be, was Mike Love just lucky to write lyrics to those songs, could anyone off the street have done as well, or is
Love a bit underappreciated, and a bit more talented than he is sometimes given credit for. The other thing would be, was he really that much of a narrow
minded redneck dope who terrorized Brian Wilson, or is he unfairly maligned.

Most of the most iconic legendary groups can't do a reunion, the Beach Boys sort of can, although obviously without Carl Wilson
especially, and his brother to some extent, its not as great as it could have been. This is a great thing, if the album sucks, we haven't lost anything
if it's average or better, its to be cherished one more album from the guys. I much prefer this to a Wilson solo album of covers. I want to hear some
new tunes, I wish one of them good be as great as God Only Knows, or Good Vibrations, I'd say that's almost impossible, but one can hope

Mr Doe I wanna know about the new material!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Pretty Funky on December 17, 2011, 03:43:49 AM

Better sound here for the new DIA re-recording IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQd1wz3d5nc


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 17, 2011, 03:56:54 AM

Better sound here for the new DIA re-recording IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQd1wz3d5nc

Listen to this. Do you hear what I hear ?

The Beach Boys.  ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Pretty Funky on December 17, 2011, 04:03:11 AM
Looking forward to the full song now and video. Now with the announcement we may not have to wait too long.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 17, 2011, 04:07:07 AM
Wait a minute, is Phil Cohen slamming or naysaying again?

A Day In the Life of Phil Cohen.

Dawn: "Oh no, the sun rose again, just like it does every day, dammit - always the old stuff... but it's not going to set, you know, I've not heard anything about that."

Breakfast: "This syrup is wrong, it's not sweet enough, my syrup - www.philssyrup - is much better"

On the way to work: "Why did no-one tell me the train would be so crowded at 8.30am on a Tuesday ?  It's a conspiracy to hide the fact that they can't run a railroad, fer god's sake."

At work: "All these people in my office, just like yesterday. Well, it won't last, they won't be here tomorrow, just you wait".

On the way home: "Damn I'm tired - why is that, no-one's telling me anything, it's an outrage."

Dinner: "Well, the steak looks good, but I'll bet it tastes awful."

Sunset: "OK, OK, OK, so the sun set... but it won't rise tomorrow, that sun's in trouble I tell you."


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: vintagemusic on December 17, 2011, 04:27:34 AM
Well Andrew I can be a negative guy too, but I stay usually, within the bounds of reality.

This is the same stuff we heard about SMiLE, oh its a myth, its not coming out bla bla


Is this a gag, are these handful of people like Phil having us on ?


I don't expect Pet Sounds two, or SMiLe, if the new studio album is halfway decent
or has a couple of real gems on there, I say Bravo and thank you!

If its a killer classic album like they did in their prime, well, even better. Either
way its gonna be a bargain at $15 USD or whatever the price tag is!


I want to know, I need to know about the new material, who wrote it, what does it sound like
how many are in the can, will they record just enough, or is there likely to be a lot of extra for
a second album later or bonus tracks later


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: The Shift on December 17, 2011, 04:34:21 AM
Just stuck in Soudns of Summer and it occurs, even if Mike insists they play hits, hits, hits, it makes for a faaacking great gig; with those voices an those presences on stage, it's a faaaaaaaacking great gig.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Craig Boyd on December 17, 2011, 04:47:32 AM
Wait a minute, is Phil Cohen slamming or naysaying again?

A Day In the Life of Phil Cohen.

Dawn: "Oh no, the sun rose again, just like it does every day, dammit - always the old stuff... but it's not going to set, you know, I've not heard anything about that."

Breakfast: "This syrup is wrong, it's not sweet enough, my syrup - www.philssyrup - is much better"

On the way to work: "Why did no-one tell me the train would be so crowded at 8.30am on a Tuesday ?  It's a conspiracy to hide the fact that they can't run a railroad, fer god's sake."

At work: "All these people in my office, just like yesterday. Well, it won't last, they won't be here tomorrow, just you wait".

On the way home: "Damn I'm tired - why is that, no-one's telling me anything, it's an outrage."

Dinner: "Well, the steak looks good, but I'll bet it tastes awful."

Sunset: "OK, OK, OK, so the sun set... but it won't rise tomorrow, that sun's in trouble I tell you."

You can't make that sh*t up  :lol


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: rogerlancelot on December 17, 2011, 05:32:05 AM
It will be Summer In Paradise Part 2.

 :p


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Rocker on December 17, 2011, 05:56:53 AM
Just stuck in Soudns of Summer and it occurs, even if Mike insists they play hits, hits, hits, it makes for a faaacking great gig; with those voices an those presences on stage, it's a faaaaaaaacking great gig.


You can't go wrong with those timeless music. And as Al said, the audience will get the hits (along with some lesser known stuff). I just hope they'll play them good.
In fact now that Dave's there I hope they'll even do some surf instrumentals.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: phirnis on December 17, 2011, 06:01:21 AM
It will be Summer In Paradise Part 2.

 :p

Probably somewhere in between M.I.U., Imagination, Paley sessions and SiP might be realistic I think. Hoping Brian's going to contribute at least one or two real "downers". And I really wouldn't mind "Cool Head Warm Heart" being included.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Shady on December 17, 2011, 06:02:37 AM
I woke up to "I can hear music" this morning and a very excited radio DJ playing "non stop Beach Boys hits" in celebration of the reunion..

 ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Mike's Beard on December 17, 2011, 06:28:39 AM
Is it just me or does anybody else get the feeling that after all those years of dumb decisions and blown opportunities the guys have really got their sh*t together over the past few years? The Mike and Bruce Show have upped their game big time, Al's stopped tinkering endlessly with his solo effort and finally put it out, Brian is singing better (on record) then he has for decades, the lawsuits have stopped, everyone's on good terms again, The Smile Sessions was a fantastic success and now a reformed classic lineup with a new Brian produced album in the works and live shows promised to celebrate the 50 years anniversary, plus hints of a decent back catalogue reappraisal.
Did they collectively wake up one morning and realise "We're the F*cking Beach Boys and we rock!" or what?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 17, 2011, 06:37:04 AM
... plus hints of a decent back catalogue reappraisal.

Ummm, think you'll find that the back catalog has been pretty damn well served since 1990.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SMiLE Brian on December 17, 2011, 06:45:29 AM

Better sound here for the new DIA re-recording IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQd1wz3d5nc

Listen to this. Do you hear what I hear ?

The Beach Boys.  ;D
THE BEACH BOYS ARE BACK!, the quality of this song has my hopes up for a good reunion album and tour. ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Rocker on December 17, 2011, 06:49:47 AM
Is it just me or does anybody else get the feeling that after all those years of dumb decisions and blown opportunities the guys have really got their sh*t together over the past few years? The Mike and Bruce Show have upped their game big time, Al's stopped tinkering endlessly with his solo effort and finally put it out, Brian is singing better (on record) then he has for decades, the lawsuits have stopped, everyone's on good terms again, The Smile Sessions was a fantastic success and now a reformed classic lineup with a new Brian produced album in the works and live shows promised to celebrate the 50 years anniversary, plus hints of a decent back catalogue reappraisal.
Did they collectively wake up one morning and realise "We're the F*cking Beach Boys and we rock!" or what?



Well, I hope that they realised through the internet how much they disappointed their fans and that there are people who care about the Beach Boys. The fact that some heavily involved people are reading this message board might have helped too. Just remember that in the first interview Mike talked about the 50th anniversary and a reunion he mentioned an all star concert. All hell broke lose here and soon there wasn't any more talk about it. I do hope that some ideas we have mentioned here got caught up for the celebrations.





I hope Brian's (and the boys') vocals will be as excellent as on BWRG ITKOD and TLOS.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Mike's Beard on December 17, 2011, 06:52:37 AM
... plus hints of a decent back catalogue reappraisal.

Ummm, think you'll find that the back catalog has been pretty damn well served since 1990.

The twofers are great but I'm thinking Deluxe issues a'la what has recently been done with The Kinks back catalog, which blows away the previous versions.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Shady on December 17, 2011, 06:59:52 AM
It's such a testament to the greatness of the Beach Boys discography when you get excited about a reunion, a tour, a new album but you really flip out when you hear "reissue campaign""


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Ron on December 17, 2011, 07:11:25 AM
1 - permission to be exceedingly smug for about a week...

Andrew you're smug every week, are you just saying you dont' want us to call you out on it this week? lol



I want to be smug with everyone's approval, for once.  :-D

Reluctlantly, I grant my approval.   Go ahead.  Post a sneering picture of you witha  sheat eating grin, ridiculing my previous assumption that Brian would'nt sign on for a tour.  You can even say "I told you so, na-na-na boo boo" if you'd like :)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Ron on December 17, 2011, 07:16:00 AM

Better sound here for the new DIA re-recording IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQd1wz3d5nc

Listen to this. Do you hear what I hear ?

The Beach Boys.  ;D

Yup.  It's undeniable.  They still have it.  I reallllllly wanna hear the next part, where they go down into the cool stuff.  .....beeennnn soooo lonnnnnngggg........


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Rocker on December 17, 2011, 07:19:25 AM
It's such a testament to the greatness of the Beach Boys discography when you get excited about a reunion, a tour, a new album but you really flip out when you hear "reissue campaign""


Yes. I think that each album has deserved to be treated as a single release. I like the two-fers but it kinda takes the importance of the individual albums away imo.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Shady on December 17, 2011, 07:41:14 AM
It's such a testament to the greatness of the Beach Boys discography when you get excited about a reunion, a tour, a new album but you really flip out when you hear "reissue campaign""


Yes. I think that each album has deserved to be treated as a single release. I like the two-fers but it kinda takes the importance of the individual albums away imo.

I agree  ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: hypehat on December 17, 2011, 07:43:57 AM
So i was fairly nonchalant about this yesterday. But I was in shock. NOW I AM FREAKING OUT  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Oh, and thanks for the heads up on this at the RFH, AGD - I didn't quite believe you at the time  :lol


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Ed Roach on December 17, 2011, 08:13:52 AM
Amazing...  The full article actually remembered Carl & Dennis.  Guess there wasn't enough space here:

The Beach Boys announce 50th anniversary reunion

December 16, 2011

For years, there have been the Beach Boys, and there has been Brian Wilson, and the two rarely intersected. The pioneering SoCal pop group was so influential to pop that it was, and is, widely regarded as America's answer to the Beatles. But Wilson's involvement with the band waxed and waned over the decades, and more recently his role has been nonexistent while he resurrected such long-delayed projects as "Smile" (which the Beach Boys also revisited this year with the well received box set, "The Smile Sessions) and a solo album "That Lucky Old Sun."

Until now. The band confirmed speculation that all surviving members of the Beach Boys' mid-'60s lineup -- Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Al Jardine, Bruce Johnston and David Marks -- will reunite for the band's 50th anniversary with a world tour and a new album on Capitol in 2012.

Wilson is producing the new album of originals, which is still being recorded. It will top a retrospective series that includes a new greatest-hits collection and a career-spanning box set, while the 50-date world tour (with dates to be announced) begins in April and includes a stop at the New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival. The Beach Boys remain the bestselling American band in the history of Neilsen/Soundscan for albums and singles.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2011/12/beach-boys-announce-50th-anniversary-reunion.html


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: CarlTheVoice on December 17, 2011, 08:16:38 AM
Many people didn't think it would happen, but you've got to believe!

I wonder what would happen if they tried releasing, as singles, some of their lesser known album tracks or un-released stuff. Would it be likely to make any impact on the charts at all, or could we generate more interest in these songs? I'm thinking TTGA or Till I Die (again), stuff that would make people listen for a bit longer.

People mock me for calling the BBs my favourite band, but I feel that they are missing out on arguably the best music ever made. Open up their catalogue to non-fans and see what the response is!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Stegibo on December 17, 2011, 08:24:56 AM
What a great christmas present! :D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Micha on December 17, 2011, 08:28:54 AM
Hey, Brian and Mike, if you have writer's block and are reading this, cover some songs of the band I'm in, ha ha!  ;D  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4NLSdTfKsg


Pretty nice voices, actually.

I wonder if the bikini girls in the Do It Again video were at the sessions or merely cut into the video. :wink

I'd buy the CDs to the pre-1965 albums if the mono versions were included.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: CarlTheVoice on December 17, 2011, 08:36:42 AM
I have just read Bakabaka's post about how it's weird that old men will be singing about bikinis etc like they are young again. I understand this point but when I saw them in July it didn't matter to me at all! Mike even made funny 'moves' towards me but as a woman in my 20s I just found it quite funny! I have to say that gig was probably the most fun I've had at a concert and I've been to some good ones! It's all about the music and the 'magic' of the Beach Boys. They still know how to put on a show so I don't care what they sing about!

If they want to tour, write and record again I am all for it. The music world is a much better place with the Beach Boys in it!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Shady on December 17, 2011, 08:48:24 AM
I have just read Bakabaka's post about how it's weird that old men will be singing about bikinis etc like they are young again. I understand this point but when I saw them in July it didn't matter to me at all! Mike even made funny 'moves' towards me but as a woman in my 20s I just found it quite funny! I have to say that gig was probably the most fun I've had at a concert and I've been to some good ones! It's all about the music and the 'magic' of the Beach Boys. They still know how to put on a show so I don't care what they sing about!

If they want to tour, write and record again I am all for it. The music world is a much better place with the Beach Boys in it!

Yeah, that pretty much sums it it


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Rocker on December 17, 2011, 09:08:13 AM

Wilson is producing the new album of originals, which is still being recorded. It will top a retrospective series that includes a new greatest-hits collection and a career-spanning box set, while the 50-date world tour (with dates to be announced) begins in April and includes a stop at the New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival. The Beach Boys remain the bestselling American band in the history of Neilsen/Soundscan for albums and singles.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2011/12/beach-boys-announce-50th-anniversary-reunion.html


Very good !


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: ArchStanton on December 17, 2011, 09:35:32 AM
Wait a second, Phil Cohen (great name by the way, say hi to Chet Morton for me), you're using TSS sales numbers as a reason that they won't release any more archival releases?  In the Rolling Stone article a couple weeks back about deluxe reissues, they mentioned that a similar reissue that moved 10,000 copies a couple of years ago is what started this boom in deluxe reissues.  TSS moved 18,000 of the high price-point set during the first couple of weeks on the market.   So it's sold over 8000 of something that was considered a smash success, before the Christmas shopping season even began. 



Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 17, 2011, 10:22:04 AM
I'm going to continue to stand my ground, despite the hostility towards me, and Mr.Doe's latest outburst of ridicule. As for those of you who would like to see each 1960's album expanded to a 2-CD set, be cautioned, that in many cases, the "Disc Two" would be very short.

Obviously, for those albums which had both a stereo & mono mix, "Disc One" could hold both the stereo & mono version quite easily, since many of these albums were 25 to 30 minutes. For those albums which have, until now, only been released in mono, "Disc One" could hold the mono version, plus stereo remixes of whatever songs can be remixed for stereo.

"Disc Two" could hold (originally) unreleased alternate arrangements & unreleased songs(I.E. the bonus tracks that were already released in the two-fer series or on previous archival projects such as "Hawthorne,Ca", "Endless Harmony Soundtrack", "Rarities" etc.), plus some session excerpts(all of which are backing track only, since The Beach Boys didn't add vocals until after satisfactory backing tracks had been achieved), and perhaps related, previously unreleased live concert versions of some of the songs.

Obviously, "Pet Sounds" has already been thoroughly explored, with mono, remixed stereo, remixed surround sound, plus session excerpts & 1960's alternate vocals mixes. And, of course, barring someone coming forward with lost tapes, "Smile" has also been thoroughly explored. Those two albums have been totally strip-mined. So, then we are talking about the following albums:
"Surfin' Safari"
"Surfin' U.S.A."
"Surfer Girl",
"Little Deuce Coupe"
"Shut Down Vol.2"
"All Summer Long"
"Beach Boys Concert"
"Beach Boys Christmas Album"
"The Beach Boys Today"
"Summer Days....and Summer Nights"
"Beach Boys Party"
"Smiley Smile"
"Wild Honey"
"Friends"
"20/20"

It would be quite difficult to even produce a 25 minute "Disc Two" for some of those albums. As for 1970's & 1980's albums, the amount of unreleased songs is much more plentiful, but many of them have no Brian Wilson involvement. In the 1990's, the late Paul Atkinson(ex-Zombies guitarist & then a Capitol executive) said that there were enough unreleased 1970's & 1980's Beach Boys songs to fill a 2-CD set.

As I've said, barring problems getting North American & European government permission for Universal Music's purchase of EMI's recorded music division(EMI's other properties, such as song publishing companies will be bought by Sony & Bertelsmann), a new owner(Universal) is coming in, and their attitude towards archival projects(that involve vault research & mixing expenses)  is much less collector-friendly than EMI. As it stands now, Universal has signed documents of intent to buy EMI, but the purchase is subject to regulatory approval on both sides of the Atlantic. As it stands now, EMI is still in limbo, reposessed and owned by Citicorp.

If you guys get thrills by stomping on me with hate, harassment & ridicule, then go for it. I won't be fazed.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Ron on December 17, 2011, 10:33:22 AM
I have just read Bakabaka's post about how it's weird that old men will be singing about bikinis etc like they are young again. I understand this point but when I saw them in July it didn't matter to me at all! Mike even made funny 'moves' towards me but as a woman in my 20s I just found it quite funny! I have to say that gig was probably the most fun I've had at a concert and I've been to some good ones! It's all about the music and the 'magic' of the Beach Boys. They still know how to put on a show so I don't care what they sing about!

If they want to tour, write and record again I am all for it. The music world is a much better place with the Beach Boys in it!

Preach it sister.  I went to a Mike show several years back, I've never seen so many different people having a good time, from babies to grandmas. 


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Myk Luhv on December 17, 2011, 12:20:49 PM
I await the remastered "Rollin' Up To Heaven"/"Teardrops On My Bed (Drip Drop)" single archival release!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: 18thofMay on December 17, 2011, 01:09:54 PM
remember when Brian said he might not tour again!!!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Rocker on December 17, 2011, 01:30:26 PM
remember when Brian said he might not tour again!!!


Wouldn't it be kind of ironic if Brian stopped touring now and writes songs for the Beach Boys while they'll go on tour ?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on December 17, 2011, 02:48:40 PM
remember when Brian said he might not tour again!!!


Wouldn't it be kind of ironic if Brian stopped touring now and writes songs for the Beach Boys while they'll go on tour ?

No, irony would be if Mike stopped touring to write songs whilst Brian went on the road

I take it you're American?  >:D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wirestone on December 17, 2011, 02:57:27 PM
remember when Brian said he might not tour again!!!


Wouldn't it be kind of ironic if Brian stopped touring now and writes songs for the Beach Boys while they'll go on tour ?

No, irony would be if Mike stopped touring to right songs whilst Brian went on the road

I take it you're American?

Some Americans do understand the actual meaning of "ironic."

It _literally_ kills me when people mess it up. Hee hee.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on December 17, 2011, 03:01:00 PM
remember when Brian said he might not tour again!!!


Wouldn't it be kind of ironic if Brian stopped touring now and writes songs for the Beach Boys while they'll go on tour ?

No, irony would be if Mike stopped touring to right songs whilst Brian went on the road

I take it you're American?

Some Americans do understand the actual meaning of "ironic."

It _literally_ kills me when people mess it up. Hee hee.

But also note I corrected my spelling mistakes.

Smug English bastard mocks American's misuse of irony, whilst making grammatical errors. Ironic? Not sure.......


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wirestone on December 17, 2011, 03:09:55 PM
It's like rain on your wedding day ...

No. No, it isn't like that at all.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Ron on December 17, 2011, 03:21:24 PM
remember when Brian said he might not tour again!!!


Wouldn't it be kind of ironic if Brian stopped touring now and writes songs for the Beach Boys while they'll go on tour ?

No, irony would be if Mike stopped touring to write songs whilst Brian went on the road

I take it you're American?  >:D

Alanis Morisette was Canadian. 


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: donald on December 17, 2011, 03:29:36 PM
I may have missed it in the thread somewhere but was there mention of when tour tickets are going to be available?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 17, 2011, 03:32:16 PM
I may have missed it in the thread somewhere but was there mention of when tour tickets are going to be available?

Not for me to say, really, but I'm guessing it'll be after the shows are booked.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Pretty Funky on December 17, 2011, 03:41:04 PM
Is it just me or does anybody else get the feeling that after all those years of dumb decisions and blown opportunities the guys have really got their sh*t together over the past few years? The Mike and Bruce Show have upped their game big time, Al's stopped tinkering endlessly with his solo effort and finally put it out, Brian is singing better (on record) then he has for decades, the lawsuits have stopped, everyone's on good terms again, The Smile Sessions was a fantastic success and now a reformed classic lineup with a new Brian produced album in the works and live shows promised to celebrate the 50 years anniversary, plus hints of a decent back catalogue reappraisal.
Did they collectively wake up one morning and realise "We're the F*cking Beach Boys and we rock!" or what?



Well, I hope that they realised through the internet how much they disappointed their fans and that there are people who care about the Beach Boys. The fact that some heavily involved people are reading this message board might have helped too. Just remember that in the first interview Mike talked about the 50th anniversary and a reunion he mentioned an all star concert. All hell broke lose here and soon there wasn't any more talk about it. I do hope that some ideas we have mentioned here got caught up for the celebrations.





I hope Brian's (and the boys') vocals will be as excellent as on BWRG ITKOD and TLOS.

I am also thinking a good deal of thought has gone into this and perhaps Capitol has put someone in charge. Its early days but a rerecording, video to come, well worded press release and talk of reissues. I like the artwork with not a surfboard or bikini featured which hints some effort may be made to highlight the bands non-beach work over the summer hits for once. Capitol may also see potential for a new live album/ concert DVD.

My hope now is for a outsider to be involved in the concert production. The various factions have lifted their games in the presentation of the music live thanks to Brians band who started it. We don't want tacky but a well thought out concert covering more than just the hits could be amazing.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Shady on December 17, 2011, 03:53:40 PM
It would be great to see the guys play a big stadium or Madsion Square Garden..

They could easily sell them out


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wirestone on December 17, 2011, 03:59:16 PM
Quote
My hope now is for a outsider to be involved in the concert production.

I'll think you'll find said person has already been mentioned as a participant in the project.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: bgas on December 17, 2011, 04:05:58 PM
Amazing...  The full article actually remembered Carl & Dennis.  Guess there wasn't enough space here:

The Beach Boys announce 50th anniversary reunion

December 16, 2011

For years, there have been the Beach Boys, and there has been Brian Wilson, and the two rarely intersected. The pioneering SoCal pop group was so influential to pop that it was, and is, widely regarded as America's answer to the Beatles. But Wilson's involvement with the band waxed and waned over the decades, and more recently his role has been nonexistent while he resurrected such long-delayed projects as "Smile" (which the Beach Boys also revisited this year with the well received box set, "The Smile Sessions) and a solo album "That Lucky Old Sun."

Until now. The band confirmed speculation that all surviving members of the Beach Boys' mid-'60s lineup -- Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Al Jardine, Bruce Johnston and David Marks -- will reunite for the band's 50th anniversary with a world tour and a new album on Capitol in 2012.

Wilson is producing the new album of originals, which is still being recorded. It will top a retrospective series that includes a new greatest-hits collection and a career-spanning box set, while the 50-date world tour (with dates to be announced) begins in April and includes a stop at the New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival. The Beach Boys remain the bestselling American band in the history of Neilsen/Soundscan for albums and singles.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2011/12/beach-boys-announce-50th-anniversary-reunion.html

They're starting the tour in April and also playing the Jazz fest, or they're opening the tour at the Jazz Fest.
So, which is it? Or will we have to wait before we find out the real dates? 
Myself I don't want to spend $975 each for the Big Chief VIP Experience, unless I KNOW it's their FIRST show.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on December 17, 2011, 04:08:28 PM
I hate to be negative, but I live in Los Angeles and it's quite far from New Orleans. Does anyone want to place a bet on whether or not the tour will implode before it reaches the West Coast?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 17, 2011, 04:16:34 PM
They're starting the tour in April and also playing the Jazz fest, or they're opening the tour at the Jazz Fest.
So, which is it? Or will we have to wait before we find out the real dates?  
Myself I don't want to spend $975 each for the Big Chief VIP Experience, unless I KNOW it's their FIRST show.

From the official announcement (emphasis for the hard of comprehending mine):

"... a 50-date international tour to begin in April with a headlining performance at the New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival "

Sh*t, even I can understand that, and everyone knows how stupid I am.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Mikie on December 17, 2011, 04:20:53 PM
Geeeeeeez.  And I thought I was............

Ah, never mind.  ::)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: bgas on December 17, 2011, 04:22:10 PM
They're starting the tour in April and also playing the Jazz fest, or they're opening the tour at the Jazz Fest.
So, which is it? Or will we have to wait before we find out the real dates? 
Myself I don't want to spend $975 each for the Big Chief VIP Experience, unless I KNOW it's their FIRST show.

From the official announcement (emphasis for the hard of comprehending mine):

"... a 50-date international tour to begin in April with a headlining performance at the New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival "

Sh*t, even I can understand that, and everyone knows how stupid I am.

Sorry, my bad, Yoda.
What does "hard of comprehending mine" really mean?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Pretty Funky on December 17, 2011, 04:25:37 PM
Quote
My hope now is for a outsider to be involved in the concert production.

I'll think you'll find said person has already been mentioned as a participant in the project.

Re-read the release on page 1 and I can't see it?  ???


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Pretty Funky on December 17, 2011, 04:30:13 PM
I hate to be negative, but I live in Los Angeles and it's quite far from New Orleans. Does anyone want to place a bet on whether or not the tour will implode before it reaches the West Coast?

Sh!t. You are starting to sound like Phil!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: bgas on December 17, 2011, 04:47:35 PM
I hate to be negative, but I live in Los Angeles and it's quite far from New Orleans. Does anyone want to place a bet on whether or not the tour will implode before it reaches the West Coast?

Sh!t. You are starting to sound like Phil!

The tour actually starts April 1st, with a very exclusive, by invitation only performance, in the auditorium at:
National Council of Negro Women
3720 West 54th Street
Los Angeles, CA 90043-2307
On the corner of 54th and Mullen (off Crenshaw Blvd.)

Site of their Jan. 25th , 1962 "Surf Nite" performance  ( there's a ticket from that show for sale on Ebay)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Pretty Funky on December 17, 2011, 04:53:52 PM
April 1 gigs are always the best! ;)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Sound of Free on December 17, 2011, 05:07:02 PM
Wait a second, Phil Cohen (great name by the way, say hi to Chet Morton for me)

Love it! Chet was always the Hardy Boys' No. 1 friend, but poor Phil was probably No. 4, behind Biff Hooper and Tony Prito.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Mikie on December 17, 2011, 05:19:39 PM
Hey, I remember those guys!!  How would Fenton Hardy and Aunt Gertrude deal with him?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Heysaboda on December 17, 2011, 05:55:47 PM

Better sound here for the new DIA re-recording IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQd1wz3d5nc

Listen to this. Do you hear what I hear ?

The Beach Boys.  ;D

Correction:

It's the Freaking Beach Boys!

aka

The Greatest Band in the World!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Ron on December 17, 2011, 07:39:23 PM
They're starting the tour in April and also playing the Jazz fest, or they're opening the tour at the Jazz Fest.
So, which is it? Or will we have to wait before we find out the real dates? 
Myself I don't want to spend $975 each for the Big Chief VIP Experience, unless I KNOW it's their FIRST show.

From the official announcement (emphasis for the hard of comprehending mine):

"... a 50-date international tour to begin in April with a headlining performance at the New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival "

Sh*t, even I can understand that, and everyone knows how stupid I am.

Sorry, my bad, Yoda.
What does "hard of comprehending mine" really mean?

About two weeks ago, AGD figured out how to highlight some words in Yellow.  So now he does it as a even more annoying way to sneer at people.

So what he was saying is the "emphasis for the hard of comprehending" was "mine".  I.E. he's the one who emphasized those words, for the hard of comprehending, it wasn't originally emphasized in the original post.

I wouldn't take it personal, it's his style.  If Mother Theresa did that, you'd think "MAN! What a BITCH!"  AGD is no Mother Theresa though... that's actually pretty reserved for him.  Look back a couple pages about how he Booker T and the MG's-ed Phil.  LOL


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Heysaboda on December 17, 2011, 08:00:13 PM
They're starting the tour in April and also playing the Jazz fest, or they're opening the tour at the Jazz Fest.
So, which is it? Or will we have to wait before we find out the real dates? 
Myself I don't want to spend $975 each for the Big Chief VIP Experience, unless I KNOW it's their FIRST show.

From the official announcement (emphasis for the hard of comprehending mine):

"... a 50-date international tour to begin in April with a headlining performance at the New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival "

Sh*t, even I can understand that, and everyone knows how stupid I am.

Sorry, my bad, Yoda.
What does "hard of comprehending mine" really mean?

About two weeks ago, AGD figured out how to highlight some words in Yellow.  So now he does it as a even more annoying way to sneer at people.

So what he was saying is the "emphasis for the hard of comprehending" was "mine".  I.E. he's the one who emphasized those words, for the hard of comprehending, it wasn't originally emphasized in the original post.

I wouldn't take it personal, it's his style.  If Mother Theresa did that, you'd think "MAN! What a BITCH!"  AGD is no Mother Theresa though... that's actually pretty reserved for him.  Look back a couple pages about how he Booker T and the MG's-ed Phil.  LOL

ha ha
I'll wager that this is NOT the first time AGD has been compared with Mother Theresa!!!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: JohnMill on December 17, 2011, 08:10:25 PM
Alright who is Bieber replacing in the group?  ;)

http://www.statesman.com/news/nation/newsmakers-beach-boys-plan-reunion-album-tour-2038571.html


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Reverend Rock on December 17, 2011, 08:37:05 PM
Hearing the DIA snippet, I was amazed at how unmistakably BB it really sounded.  Mike's sounding a lot better than he did in the 80s, and the group blend just sounds vintage.  They still have that magic, and if the new songs are written and arranged with care, this reunion album will be something to really look forward to.

I can only feel good about this, in every way.  With the Smile Sessions finally released in such a great package, the stage is set for a great 50th anniversary celebration.  This is precisely how they should seal and complete their musical legacy.  It's perfect.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Mr. Wilson on December 17, 2011, 09:07:57 PM
I hope they dont hire Carol Kaye to play bass..!! :thud :violin


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Slow In Brain on December 17, 2011, 09:12:16 PM
Is the reunion tour heading to Australia ?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: 18thofMay on December 17, 2011, 09:15:37 PM
Is the reunion tour heading to Australia ?
Yes


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Slow In Brain on December 17, 2011, 09:19:50 PM
Thanks Mr May, were the dates mentioned further back in this thread ?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SamMcK on December 17, 2011, 09:43:21 PM
Being a Beach Boys fan just keeps getting better and better doesn't it? I actually feel honored to be a part of a fanbase such as this, I like you guys for a ton of reasons and not just the fact that your mainly crazy people who enjoy "The Beach Boys Love You". ;D Come on everybody let's put our hearts together and hug to take a load off our feet, eh?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Aegir on December 17, 2011, 09:46:42 PM
Can everyone cut it with the yellow text? It's especially hard for me to read.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Myk Luhv on December 17, 2011, 10:22:48 PM
Can everyone cut it with the yellow text? It's especially hard for me to read.

Everyone needs to read this post. Now, read it again. Good. Now, follow its advice, goddamnit!

Also, The Beach Boys featuring Brian Wilson and David Marks had better come to Halifax and stop neglecting my love. :(


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 17, 2011, 11:18:55 PM
ha ha
I'll wager that this is NOT the first time AGD has been compared with Mother Theresa!!!


Happens all the time. It's the tea towel headdress and the saintly demeanour.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 17, 2011, 11:29:36 PM
Is the reunion tour heading to Australia ?

Be amazed if they don't - I'm guessing the "worldwide" part of the tour equates to something like:

Australia - Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane
Japan - Tokyo
UK - London, Birmingham, Edinburgh, Manchester
Ireland - Dublin
Holland - Amsterdam
France - Paris
Spain - Madrid
Germany - Berlin, Munich, Frankfurt
Scandinavia - Copenhagen, Helsinki

... minimum.

US would have to be...

LA
Hawaii
NYC
Boston
Chicago
SF
Miami
St. Louis
Dallas
Denver
DC
Seattle
Philly
Mitchell  ;D
Hutchinson
San Diego
New Orleans (confirmed)
Baltimore
Cincinnati
Cleveland
Las Vegas
Phoenix
Kansas City (either one)

Just top of the head guesses.




Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 18, 2011, 12:26:48 AM
I wish they'd come to Houston. I would nut if I got to see a reunion show live.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wirestone on December 18, 2011, 12:27:18 AM
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Hutchinson

 :-D  :-D  :-D

I'm originally from Kansas, and this is even funnier if you actually know the town.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 18, 2011, 12:32:01 AM
Quote
Hutchinson

 :-D  :-D  :-D

I'm originally from Kansas, and this is even funnier if you actually know the town.

You can see the house where Murry was born on Google Streetview - looks very run down, but at least it's still there.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: The Shift on December 18, 2011, 12:32:31 AM
Incidentally, I'm assuming this associated recording and video is the reason BW's Scandinavian gigs were pulled?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 18, 2011, 12:34:12 AM
Incidentally, I'm assuming this associated recording and video is the reason BW's Scandinavian gigs were pulled?

Not for that song - those sessions were back in late May.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jay on December 18, 2011, 12:36:16 AM
They better come to Pittsburgh. Or Cleveland. If they come to Pittsburgh perhaps we could organize a Smiley Smile meet and greet.  8)  :hat


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: The Shift on December 18, 2011, 12:42:00 AM
Incidentally, I'm assuming this associated recording and video is the reason BW's Scandinavian gigs were pulled?

Not for that song - those sessions were back in late May.

Maybe the addition of Dave to the footage? What's your best guess Andrew?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: smile-holland on December 18, 2011, 03:09:03 AM
Holland - Amsterdam

I really hope so, but since 1980, the BB have avoided Holland ... lucky enough BW hasn't the last decade.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: 18thofMay on December 18, 2011, 03:53:11 AM
it is all over the news in Australia. The Daily Telegraph even


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Rocker on December 18, 2011, 03:54:31 AM
I hope that Brian will actually sing background parts when he's not doing lead.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: tansen on December 18, 2011, 03:56:53 AM
Hoping they go to Norway. Though, I'll only go if they don't do 'Be True to your School' :D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 18, 2011, 03:58:24 AM
Been doing some basic math (only kind I have). Tour starts April 27th, lasts 50 dates, so the earliest it could finish is June 16th or so... but of course they won't be playing a show every day. Say... five shows a week, so 10 weeks, which brings us up to about July 6th. But don't forget the TV/radio/promo appearances, and maybe five gigs a week is a bit steep. Say four, plus travel for the non-American shows... I'd say, based purely on my unsupported assumptions and counting on my fingers, it'll be done by mid-August - oddly, the date the London Olympics close. Maybe Alan's on to something.  ;D

Of course, the biggest 'if' is my assuming that the tour is going to be uninterrupted. If not, say if it's done in two or more blocks, then forget what I'm theorising and look to it stretching into the fall. But Mike & Bruce do 50-show stints without batting an eyelid, and Brian's no stranger to such a schedule either. Were I a betting man, I'd lay a small sum on the tour being done by the end of August. August 2012, that is.

The other "what if" I'm not considering is a Monkees/Springfield scenario. Don't want to think about that.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 18, 2011, 03:59:19 AM
I hope that Brian will actually sing background parts when he's not doing lead.

He will - Brian LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVES doing bvs.  ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Shady on December 18, 2011, 04:53:40 AM
The dates will be interesting..

A 50 date world tour, man this is going to be crazy


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on December 18, 2011, 05:18:59 AM
Hoping they go to Norway. Though, I'll only go if they don't do 'Be True to your School' :D

Oh, they're gonna do it. Only this time Brian will be doing a harmony on Mike's "Wheeeeeeeeen".


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: The Heartical Don on December 18, 2011, 05:50:08 AM
Been doing some basic math (only kind I have). Tour starts April 27th, lasts 50 dates, so the earliest it could finish is June 16th or so... but of course they won't be playing a show every day. Say... five shows a week, so 10 weeks, which brings us up to about July 6th. But don't forget the TV/radio/promo appearances, and maybe five gigs a week is a bit steep. Say four, plus travel for the non-American shows... I'd say, based purely on my unsupported assumptions and counting on my fingers, it'll be done by mid-August - oddly, the date the London Olympics close. Maybe Alan's on to something.  ;D

Of course, the biggest 'if' is my assuming that the tour is going to be uninterrupted. If not, say if it's done in two or more blocks, then forget what I'm theorising and look to it stretching into the fall. But Mike & Bruce do 50-show stints without batting an eyelid, and Brian's no stranger to such a schedule either. Were I a betting man, I'd lay a small sum on the tour being done by the end of August. August 2012, that is.

The other "what if" I'm not considering is a Monkees/Springfield scenario. Don't want to think about that.

Thanks Andrew -

I must admit that I was apprehensive at first... hey, can't even find my post anymore that proves it, and all the better for it too, let it sink away in the troughs of deep cyberspace.

It's an absolutely great prospect. That reunion, a new album, and a career-spanning box set... hopefully tons of rarities will be included.

Amazing.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Beach Boy on December 18, 2011, 05:57:17 AM
http://www.facebook.com/alanjardine/posts/265677626823873

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I'm really happy for the fans. We are sacrificing our own personal careers to make it possible for the legions of fans all over the world who have been so patient and have waited so long for this thing to happen. The world can use some good vibrations! Congratulations to you all!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: The Shift on December 18, 2011, 05:59:24 AM
Say... five shows a week, so 10 weeks, which brings us up to about July 6th. But don't forget the TV/radio/promo appearances, and maybe five gigs a week is a bit steep.

Apparently Mike and Bruce plan to squeeze four or five casino gigs in each morning and afternoon before the Beach Boys evening gigs.... ;)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: The Shift on December 18, 2011, 06:02:08 AM
http://www.facebook.com/alanjardine/posts/265677626823873

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I'm really happy for the fans. We are sacrificing our own personal careers to make it possible for the legions of fans all over the world who have been so patient and have waited so long for this thing to happen. The world can use some good vibrations! Congratulations to you all!

Saw this earlier... Really puzzled about this "sacrificing careers" stuff. Does it mean Postcards has  even delayed yet again, again?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Shady on December 18, 2011, 06:38:57 AM
The real casualties of this reunion, Al Jardine's solo record and Mike and Bruce playing a theme park opening


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Runaways on December 18, 2011, 07:01:43 AM
c'mooon texas.  preferably two dates so i have a choice to drive from San Antonio.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on December 18, 2011, 07:25:32 AM
So, regarding the album.

This will be the first Beach Boys album to be "Produced by Brian Wilson" since, Love You


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: tansen on December 18, 2011, 07:28:28 AM
Hoping they go to Norway. Though, I'll only go if they don't do 'Be True to your School' :D

Oh, they're gonna do it. Only this time Brian will be doing a harmony on Mike's "Wheeeeeeeeen".

Haha!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: tansen on December 18, 2011, 07:29:19 AM
http://www.facebook.com/alanjardine/posts/265677626823873

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I'm really happy for the fans. We are sacrificing our own personal careers to make it possible for the legions of fans all over the world who have been so patient and have waited so long for this thing to happen. The world can use some good vibrations! Congratulations to you all!

Saw this earlier... Really puzzled about this "sacrificing careers" stuff. Does it mean Postcards has  even delayed yet again, again?

Lol, agreed, John. If anything, he can get his career back.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Shady on December 18, 2011, 08:03:22 AM
So, regarding the album.

This will be the first Beach Boys album to be "Produced by Brian Wilson" since, Love You

I'd like to believe that  :-\


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wirestone on December 18, 2011, 08:43:10 AM
So, regarding the album.

This will be the first Beach Boys album to be "Produced by Brian Wilson" since, Love You

I'd like to believe that  :-\

My guess: BWRG and ITKoD are far more Brian Wilson productions than next year's record will ever be.

(Doesn't mean it will be bad, mind you. But until I see someone explicitly denying that Joe Thomas is part of this, I suspect he's still involved.)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: pixletwin on December 18, 2011, 08:49:13 AM
I hope they come to Salt Lake City.  :'(


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on December 18, 2011, 08:51:47 AM
So, regarding the album.

This will be the first Beach Boys album to be "Produced by Brian Wilson" since, Love You

I'd like to believe that  :-\

Yes, hence the speech marks, it's always nice to see it in print though, and if it shifts a few more units, what's the harm?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SamMcK on December 18, 2011, 10:03:27 AM
So, regarding the album.

This will be the first Beach Boys album to be "Produced by Brian Wilson" since, Love You

Also the first album to feature David Marks since Little Deuce Coupe in 1963 when he was about 15! :o


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on December 18, 2011, 10:23:54 AM
So, regarding the album.

This will be the first Beach Boys album to be "Produced by Brian Wilson" since, Love You

Also the first album to feature David Marks since Little Deuce Coupe in 1963 when he was about 15! :o

Young David was no Gremlin.....


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jon Stebbins on December 18, 2011, 10:25:32 AM
So, regarding the album.

This will be the first Beach Boys album to be "Produced by Brian Wilson" since, Love You

Also the first album to feature David Marks since Little Deuce Coupe in 1963 when he was about 15! :o

Young David was no Gremlin.....
Unless you count that Nascar CD from '98.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 18, 2011, 10:59:59 AM
So, regarding the album.

This will be the first Beach Boys album to be "Produced by Brian Wilson" since, Love You

Also the first album to feature David Marks since Little Deuce Coupe in 1963 when he was about 15! :o

Young David was no Gremlin.....
Unless you count that Nascar CD from '98.

I don't.  ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PS on December 18, 2011, 11:18:08 AM
Not sure if this is redundant in this conversation, but here is a link to whole session video promo and song:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42619208/Do%20It%20Again%200707-960x540.mov

Happy Holidays and bless us all, each and every one!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Craig Boyd on December 18, 2011, 11:23:56 AM

Be amazed if they don't - I'm guessing the "worldwide" part of the tour equates to something like:

Australia - Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane
Japan - Tokyo
UK - London, Birmingham, Edinburgh, Manchester



See now if this turns out to be correct i'm gonna have to go to both! Life's hard sometimes  ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Ron on December 18, 2011, 11:55:22 AM
Hearing the DIA snippet, I was amazed at how unmistakably BB it really sounded.  Mike's sounding a lot better than he did in the 80s, and the group blend just sounds vintage. 

You know what I've been thiking for a while?  I think the key is Al Jardine.  I think his voice is pretty sweet, always has been, and you can hear it in most of their original songs; he still sounds pretty good, so if you do that type of song with Al's voice in the blend, I think that's the key to getting that Beach Boys 'sound'.  Carl of course was also a HUGE part of the blend, but Al is still wtih us thankfully.

Everybody knows the 'bass' sound on any recording is kind of unidrectional for lack of a better word, it's imitable and you can't easily discern with your ear who's singing a bass note.  Also the falsetto part, although tough to do, can be imitated too, Al & Carl (and Bruce) in my opinion always had the hard lines to sing, the middle part of the harmony is tough to handle and keep straight.  As well known as the boys are for the falsetto, I think the real meat and bones was always the middle harmonies. 

Go ahead.  Ridicule me if you must, lol. 


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SG7 on December 18, 2011, 11:55:51 AM
Billy Hinsche to do the Wipeout rap? :D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Ron on December 18, 2011, 11:58:14 AM
I hope that Brian will actually sing background parts when he's not doing lead.

Yes.  To this day, I feel even his current background vocals are the best thing he does.  Even when he's 'off' it sounds really cool and interesting to me.  i'd much rather hear him sing backup.  Luckily, I'm positive he will, hell he sings backup on the new song, you can hear him very well in the bridge (singing lead, and in the vocal pad behind it). 


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Ron on December 18, 2011, 12:01:13 PM
http://www.facebook.com/alanjardine/posts/265677626823873

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I'm really happy for the fans. We are sacrificing our own personal careers to make it possible for the legions of fans all over the world who have been so patient and have waited so long for this thing to happen. The world can use some good vibrations! Congratulations to you all!

Gotta love Al Jardine.  We're lucky to have such a genuinely nice guy be part of our favorite band, and also I'm glad that hopefully this will get Jardine a bit more respect being part of (and the early voice of) such a huge news story in the music world. 


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 18, 2011, 12:08:30 PM
Not sure if this is redundant in this conversation, but here is a link to whole session video promo and song:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42619208/Do%20It%20Again%200707-960x540.mov

Happy Holidays and bless us all, each and every one!

The 'outtasite !' bit stopped me dead in my tracks !

For them as have not listened, this is the WHOLE SONG !


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PS on December 18, 2011, 12:14:36 PM
The video is obviously still in progress (Getty Images stand-in) but a friend of a friend who is in on the legal negotiations of the tour gave me permission to post it. He said it was a couple of months old already, so the final video edit of the promo must be finished by now. But this mix sounds MUCH better than the YouTube clip already...


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Awesoman on December 18, 2011, 12:16:45 PM
Not sure if this is redundant in this conversation, but here is a link to whole session video promo and song:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42619208/Do%20It%20Again%200707-960x540.mov

Happy Holidays and bless us all, each and every one!

Nice.  How'd you score this?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: CarlTheVoice on December 18, 2011, 12:17:37 PM
Meh I can see them picking their UK dates just in time for my wedding. Dammit! Hoping for May or late July/Aug. Hurry up and announce the dates!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PS on December 18, 2011, 12:31:17 PM
"Nice.  How'd you score this?"


Old high school friends in on the legal aspects of setting up the tour (maybe the NASCAR end of things). Must have been an internal promo, obviously still in progress as of a few months ago. They said it was cool to post. I hope they're right. Too late now, boys...

This demos - once again - what a damn fine bass singer Mike is.

Simply no one can touch what he does on the bottom (all puns intended). Flawless take after take on the SMiLE sessions, and, truth be told,  every SOT box I have - he's on it EVERYTIME. That is some kind of genius too, have to admit.

His particular timbre can't be imitated, and fits that blend so beautifully. I feel it in my gut when I turn it up.

This mix seems to me to be much more satisfying than the Tube clip. Love this production.

Live, spare, on point, with instruments whose sound won't date.

Please let the whole album be something along these lines.

Not too slick, but clean and present and fill up the room with that SOUND!! Live as possible, please.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SloopJohnB on December 18, 2011, 12:36:01 PM
WOW.  :o


Interestingly, David is nowhere to be seen in this video, which probably means he's an afterthought. I don't care, as long as he ends up being a part of the reunion.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: b00ts on December 18, 2011, 12:42:39 PM
"Nice.  How'd you score this?"


Old high school friends in on the legal aspects of setting up the tour (maybe the NASCAR end of things). Must have been an internal promo, obviously still in progress as of a few months ago. They said it was cool to post. I hope they're right. Too late now, boys...

This demos - once again - what a damn fine bass singer Mike is.

Simply no one can touch what he does on the bottom (all puns intended). Flawless take after take on the SMiLE sessions, and, truth be told,  every SOT box I have - he's on it EVERYTIME. That is some kind of genius too, have to admit.

His particular timbre can't be imitated, and fits that blend so beautifully. I feel it in my gut when I turn it up.

This mix seems to me to be much more satisfying than the Tube clip. Love this production.

Live, spare, on point, with instruments whose sound won't date.

Please let the whole album be something along these lines.

Not too slick, but clean and present and fill up the room with that SOUND!! Live as possible, please.

I wasn't ecstatic about the mix used on the Youtube clip. This version is much better! Mike sounds awesome, and you are right, I think he is probably the most consistent vocalist in the group, even at 70 years old!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Ron on December 18, 2011, 12:45:57 PM
David's in the video, isn't he?  I just don't think he was there when they did the vocals, or at least the vocals they videotaped. 

I hope they are able to write some new stuff that rocks and has this vibe to it.  I don't want to hear a whole album of deep music, although a few great songs would be nice.  I hope it skews more towards "do it again" and less towards "Desert drive" if you know what I mean. 

If Joe Thomas is responsible for the vocals sounding like that, I say keep Joe Thomas. 


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 18, 2011, 12:46:39 PM
Meh I can see them picking their UK dates just in time for my wedding. Dammit! Hoping for May or late July/Aug. Hurry up and announce the dates!

Well then... change the date of your wedding !!  What kind of fan are you, anyway ?  ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: elnombre on December 18, 2011, 12:48:31 PM
Many thanks for the video PS, that was superb.  Just played it for my gf who last watched the Boys at their (in my opinion) frankly painful Reagan Foundation show. This was the diametric opposite - lively, fun and right on the money. This IS The Beach Boys. Can't wait to buy tickets! Glad to see Jeff Foskett there too btw.

I expect it'll be New Year before the dates are announced now?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 18, 2011, 12:48:57 PM
David's in the video, isn't he? 

Not this one. He wasn't there for the May sessions. This is patently from then - the YouTube video is from at least two sessions.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Awesoman on December 18, 2011, 12:49:21 PM
Did they sample the drum beat from the original version at the beginning?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Stegibo on December 18, 2011, 12:55:20 PM
I like how enthusiastic Bruce sings the 'Hey Now' part. :D
Oh and Mike's 'Hey Now's  kick ass!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Amanda Hart on December 18, 2011, 01:03:00 PM
I didn't really get invested into whether they should reunite or not when talk started, but everything coming out this week has really pulled me in. Everything looks like it has been done with care, taste and passion. I hope all parties involved have a wonderful experience and can pass that along to the fans. I am really getting pumped for this!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on December 18, 2011, 01:03:51 PM
I like how enthusiastic Bruce sings the 'Hey Now' part. :D

THIS!

Definitely made me realize how crucial & authentic Bruce's vocals are for the blend.

Mike's lead is just kickass. Listen to that rasp and vibrato in the 1st verse. He owns that vocal.

What a perfect way to start the reunion buzz. They sound GREAT.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Mikie on December 18, 2011, 01:23:28 PM
Thanks a lot, PS!  But.......

"This account's public links are generating too much traffic and have been temporarily disabled!"

Hey, could one of you guys move over for a second and let me download this thing?  ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on December 18, 2011, 01:23:45 PM
David's in the video, isn't he?  

Not this one. He wasn't there for the May sessions. This is patently from then - the YouTube video is from at least two sessions.

Wonder why he wasn't there in May.  Possibly they hadn't yet decided to include him?

But he is on the track says Jon.  My question is: why release this whole video "without David" when there is new video "with David".  
Shame, David should have played the guitar solo.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wrightfan on December 18, 2011, 01:26:35 PM
Wow, they really seemed like a band together after all these.

Even more pumped.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 18, 2011, 01:42:57 PM
 My question is: why release this whole video "without David" when there is new video "with David".  Shame, David should have played the guitar solo.

I don't think this is what you'd exactly call an 'officially sanctioned release'.  ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on December 18, 2011, 01:56:29 PM
My question is: why release this whole video "without David" when there is new video "with David".  Shame, David should have played the guitar solo.

I don't think this is what you'd exactly call an 'officially sanctioned release'.  ;D

The "Smile" tape thief at it again.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: southbay on December 18, 2011, 02:05:20 PM
Thanks a lot, PS!  But.......

"This account's public links are generating too much traffic and have been temporarily disabled!"

Hey, could one of you guys move over for a second and let me download this thing?  ;D
Hello anyone? THIS?!?  NOW?!? PLEASE!!!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Craig Boyd on December 18, 2011, 02:17:50 PM
Thanks a lot, PS!  But.......

"This account's public links are generating too much traffic and have been temporarily disabled!"

Hey, could one of you guys move over for a second and let me download this thing?  ;D
Hello anyone? THIS?!?  NOW?!? PLEASE!!!

I'm biting my nails now! My fingers are bleeding, I need to hear this!  :'(


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: elnombre on December 18, 2011, 02:18:58 PM
I'll mirror it if that's cool with everyone? Don't want to piss off PS since he was the one kind enough to share it, but I do already have it downloaded.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: STE on December 18, 2011, 02:20:14 PM

PS please reply!!  :-X



Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Craig Boyd on December 18, 2011, 02:21:56 PM
I'll mirror it if that's cool with everyone? Don't want to piss off PS since he was the one kind enough to share it, but I do already have it downloaded.

That'd be great of you man  :)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on December 18, 2011, 02:23:10 PM
I Re-uped it, check this

http://www.mediafire.com/?idb5zes084d9jll


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: elnombre on December 18, 2011, 02:23:44 PM
http://www.mediafire.com/?axrkxlb9cpsze8a

Ah - you beat me.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Craig Boyd on December 18, 2011, 02:26:48 PM
I Re-uped it, check this

http://www.mediafire.com/?idb5zes084d9jll

Thanks man! Big thanks to the guy who originally posted too!  :)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Fall Breaks on December 18, 2011, 02:27:24 PM
I Re-uped it, check this

http://www.mediafire.com/?idb5zes084d9jll
Thanks a lot! Now, to wait for the download to finish: 28 minutes remaining :ahh


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on December 18, 2011, 02:28:54 PM
http://www.mediafire.com/?axrkxlb9cpsze8a

Ah - you beat me.

The More The Merrier :D

Also, Well, your well, your welcome everyone :D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Shady on December 18, 2011, 02:34:10 PM
wow, the full video rocks! The new version is fantastic...

I knew Jeff was the culprit for that annoying falsetto


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Rocker on December 18, 2011, 02:43:58 PM
Good one. These boys have talent. Should make it big....


Mike's bass vocals always has been terrific. He just needs a microphone for himself because as Chuck Britz said, Mike's working very close to it. If he's not close enough you can't hear him very good if at all. But through the years his bass vocal was always intact even when he got so annoingly nasal.

I'm pretty sure they sampled the original DIA intro for this. Why ? To have Dennis on the track ?
All in all, this sounds almost like a hit and although I hate re-recordings I must say that I'll listen to this more than once. If they have new material that sounds as fresh and good as this and release it as a single, they really could get another big one.

And of course it almost brought tears to my eyes seeing the boys back together, standing around one microphone. Man that really is something special right there



EDIT:

BTW, if you stop the video at 2:23 I believe you can see Probyn Gregory and some keyboard player that I don't recognize (maybe G. Griffin ?)

EDIT 2: No, it's Scott Bennet, you see him at 2:40


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Craig Boyd on December 18, 2011, 02:59:09 PM

EDIT:

BTW, if you stop the video at 2:23 I believe you can see Probyn Gregory and some keyboard player that I don't recognize (maybe G. Griffin ?)

EDIT 2: No, it's Scott Bennet, you see him at 2:40

Both Gary and Scott are in there. Gary is earlier in the vid like you say and then Scott pops up at 2:40


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jimmie_R on December 18, 2011, 03:04:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd9S5KA9lbE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd9S5KA9lbE)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PS on December 18, 2011, 03:12:33 PM
Hi folks


I'm not certain what the legal status of that video is, to be frank. Not my dropbox account. Better not to post it on YouTube, etc. Please keep it reasonably private here,  entres nous, until I hear otherwise. Looks like an unfinished video cut to me, with Getty Images in place instead of original material. So I don't want some editor to get in trouble. I have no idea what the original source is.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 18, 2011, 03:12:54 PM
John Cowsill - drums
Brett Simons - bass
Gary Griffin - keyboards
Scott Bennett - keyboards
A. N. Other - sax
Probyn Gregory - French horn, guitar
Nicky Wonder - guitar
Scott Totten - guitar
Jeff Foskett - additional vocals
The Beach Boys - vocals


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Dave Modny on December 18, 2011, 03:19:18 PM
Is it safe to assume that the "Joe" remark from (what sounds like) Brian, that occurs during the little studio conversation bit at the end, is indeed Joe Thomas....or someone else altogether?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 18, 2011, 03:19:51 PM
Hi folks

I'm not certain what the legal status of that video is, to be frank. Not my dropbox account. Better not to post it on YouTube, etc. Please keep it reasonably private here,  entres nous, until I hear otherwise. Looks like an unfinished video cut to me, with Getty Images in place instead of original material. So I don't want some editor to get in trouble. I have no idea what the original source is.

Bit late for that - it was reposted to the Hoff, and on from there (amongst others by me, I freely admit): you said in the original post your friend gave you the OK to go public with it (and yes, here is public), and you didn't state any restrictions whatsoever, so my conscience is clear. I suggest you start doing some fancy thinking.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Shady on December 18, 2011, 03:35:55 PM
Is it safe to assume that the "Joe" remark from (what sounds like) Brian, that occurs during the little studio conversation bit at the end, is indeed Joe Thomas....or someone else altogether?

 :-\


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PS on December 18, 2011, 03:36:25 PM
Well, there it is. As I said, he did say it was okay to go public with it, so mine is clear too.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 18, 2011, 03:38:55 PM
Well, there it is. As I said, he did say it was okay to go public with it, so mine is clear too.

Looks like world peace to me.  :)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wirestone on December 18, 2011, 04:29:18 PM
John Cowsill - drums
Brett Simons - bass
Gary Griffin - keyboards
Scott Bennett - keyboards
A. N. Other - sax
Probyn Gregory - French horn, guitar
Nicky Wonder - guitar
Scott Totten - guitar
Jeff Foskett - additional vocals
The Beach Boys - vocals

Looks like Mertens to me. Check out about 1:28 in the video.

Looks like Brian's band really comes out on top here ... not that it's a contest, but I'm surprised to see Probyn in there. That's two members of Mike's band to six (possibly seven) from Brian's.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Mikie on December 18, 2011, 04:45:44 PM
So I'll betcha that's your 50th Anniversary touring band in that video (minus Dave of course)!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Craig Boyd on December 18, 2011, 04:52:53 PM
John Cowsill - drums
Brett Simons - bass
Gary Griffin - keyboards
Scott Bennett - keyboards
A. N. Other - sax
Probyn Gregory - French horn, guitar
Nicky Wonder - guitar
Scott Totten - guitar
Jeff Foskett - additional vocals
The Beach Boys - vocals

Looks like Mertens to me. Check out about 1:28 in the video.

Looks like Brian's band really comes out on top here ... not that it's a contest, but I'm surprised to see Probyn in there. That's two members of Mike's band to six (possibly seven) from Brian's.

Hoping that for a tour they find some way to incorporate Ed Carter and Billy Hinsche, they've been around so long I regard them as members of the band.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Craig Boyd on December 18, 2011, 05:21:43 PM
Also how badass does Mike look when he's walking into the studio at the start of the video! 8) I've been watching it on repeat and every time I see that part i'm like "YES! We're cooking with gas now!"


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Justin on December 18, 2011, 05:27:52 PM
I watched the Mike/Brian hug in repeat for like a minute.

Wonderful video!  I was never worried about this song...it's got a lot of room to breathe and it's not like a super well known song where it could trump the original version. 


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: ArchStanton on December 18, 2011, 06:06:47 PM
Love it.  Was a little bummed they were re-doing this for the start of the big comeback, but it works so much better than I thought it would.  Thanks for sharing PS!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: onatrain on December 18, 2011, 07:08:03 PM
The video is amazing!!  Thank you PS for sharing!

Beach Boys, please come to Toronto!!!



Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Craig Boyd on December 18, 2011, 07:09:26 PM
Love it.  Was a little bummed they were re-doing this for the start of the big comeback, but it works so much better than I thought it would.  Thanks for sharing PS!

It never really bothered me when I heard they were re-doing it. I think partly because the theme of the song fits the reunion and also I just wanted to hear what they sounded like together, be that an original song or a remake. You're right though, it exceeded my personal expectations too! Hoping it's only included as a bonus track on the album though, i'm all for it being the "theme song" of the reunion but i'd like the album to be originals.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: bossaroo on December 18, 2011, 07:26:10 PM
Also how badass does Mike look when he's walking into the studio at the start of the video! 8) I've been watching it on repeat and every time I see that part i'm like "YES! We're cooking with gas now!"

Mike does look a little gassy doesn't he?   ;)

i dig the Brian/Mike hugshot and Mike lovingly karate chopping Brian's shoulders near the end.

Al-on-a-box cracks me up every time.  :lol

I'm glad they used the original drum intro... it can't be topped. Miss those woodshop sounds at the end though!

sure feels good to be alive right about now. thanks Boys!  8)







Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Runaways on December 18, 2011, 07:28:51 PM
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(http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/8104/image30pjzc6yd2.jpg)

MINDS MELTED


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Craig Boyd on December 18, 2011, 07:40:27 PM

 :o

That's it!! That's all we need! Brian is there all right, it's that look!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Craig Boyd on December 18, 2011, 07:44:33 PM
Al-on-a-box cracks me up every time.  :lol

I'd love if that was purely for our benefit! :D

It actually wouldn't surprise me if Brian asked Al to stand on the box just for old times sake!  :lol


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Ron on December 18, 2011, 08:11:23 PM
Also how badass does Mike look when he's walking into the studio at the start of the video! 8) I've been watching it on repeat and every time I see that part i'm like "YES! We're cooking with gas now!"

Yup.  I agree.  Easily the coolest, bad-ass part of the video.  He actually looks like a Rock Star, then you see him and Brian hug and he even comes off as a cool guy. 

Say what you want about Mike, but he's Mike.  He's basically the same person he was when he was 18.  Good and Bad. 


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Ron on December 18, 2011, 08:15:24 PM
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(http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/8104/image30pjzc6yd2.jpg)

MINDS MELTED

Beautiful picture.  When I watch or hear Brian, I always hear or catch little glimses of what he was when he was young, this picture is evidence of it.  He's still in there somewhere.  I hope he stays positive for this reunion and enjoys it for what it's worth to him; this could be very therapeudic for whatever demons he still has in his head. 


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Micha on December 18, 2011, 10:06:52 PM
The other "what if" I'm not considering is a Monkees/Springfield scenario. Don't want to think about that.

What happened to the Monkees at Springfield?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: The Shift on December 18, 2011, 11:09:11 PM
Would like to read Peter Reum's take on all this activity. He's one whose opinion I really respect but he's been quiet or absent since it all kicked off. I'm guessing he's seen the news....?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Keri on December 18, 2011, 11:13:30 PM

 :o

That's it!! That's all we need! Brian is there all right, it's that look!

Ain't it priceless?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Custom Machine on December 18, 2011, 11:59:34 PM
Great video, PS!  The guys sound so good!  Been listening non-stop.  Thanks for posting!



Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Billgoodman on December 19, 2011, 01:03:39 AM
I just saw Mike Love hitting Brian Wilson!

And who's questioning Brian in the fade?

OMG it's 1967 all over again!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: dmcguire70 on December 19, 2011, 03:24:01 AM
If Van Dyke Parks were to become the lyricist  that would be an interesting turn of events. :o


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: ESQ Editor on December 19, 2011, 04:15:31 AM
It would be great if they created a concept album.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: ESQ Editor on December 19, 2011, 04:16:22 AM
It would be great if they created a concept album.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: 18thofMay on December 19, 2011, 04:18:56 AM
It would be great if they created a concept album.
Is that a hint??
I would love a song in the style of every album


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: JohnMill on December 19, 2011, 06:34:37 AM
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(http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/8104/image30pjzc6yd2.jpg)

MINDS MELTED

Beautiful picture.  When I watch or hear Brian, I always hear or catch little glimpses of what he was when he was young, this picture is evidence of it.  He's still in there somewhere.  I hope he stays positive for this reunion and enjoys it for what it's worth to him; this could be very therapeutic for whatever demons he still has in his head. 

Amen to add something to that I remember a post from the old "SMiLE Shop" where someone mentioned that even if there never was another Beach Boys album or tour, it would be nice if Brian and Mike could reconcile (I believe at the time Brian had mentioned the only contact he had with his cousin was that they exchanged holiday cards) and stop spending this period in their lives in courtrooms.  Hopefully as Mike has mentioned that stuff is all in the past and this could be therapeutic for not only Brian but everyone involved.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Chris Brown on December 19, 2011, 08:44:57 AM
Seeing the video and those pictures definitely gets me a bit misty, which is the last thing I expected to happen if/when this day came.  Seeing them all together having fun and working in the studio just seems right, you know? 

Obviously we all hope the resulting music is excellent, but as John said in the post above mine, the true impact of a reunion for these guys is in the mending of past wounds and putting the past aside to make great music like they used to.  It's what they were all born to do, and life is too damn short to waste your twilight years estranged from people you were once so close with.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 19, 2011, 08:46:02 AM
By the way, the most recent "Do It Again" video(which has the song complete) honestly shows Jeffrey Foskett doing the highest notes. I enjoy the re-make, and double-tracking has effectively concealed Mike Love's present-day hoarseness.

By the way, as for 2012 CD releases, all we know is that some sort of box set, a reunion album & a greatest hits CD will be included. It is never specifically stated that these projects will include remixes, previously unreleased songs/versions or expanded editions of any specific back catalogue albums. My view is, if we get more archival material & remixes, I'm delighted and I'll buy the CD's. But if we don't get more archival material & remixes, I won't be broken-hearted. "The Smile Sessions" was aimed at avid fans. The 2012 release campaign may be intended to introduce the music to a new generation of listeners; people who have little or no Beach Boys music in their collection. "Greatest Hits"-type collections by The Beach Boys sell well. That's why Capitol keeps cranking out hits discs. This group has had more greatest hits albums than The Doors. And that's an incredible statistic!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SMiLE on December 19, 2011, 08:54:33 AM
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(http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/8104/image30pjzc6yd2.jpg)

MINDS MELTED

Beautiful picture.  When I watch or hear Brian, I always hear or catch little glimpses of what he was when he was young, this picture is evidence of it.  He's still in there somewhere.  I hope he stays positive for this reunion and enjoys it for what it's worth to him; this could be very therapeutic for whatever demons he still has in his head. 

Amen to add something to that I remember a post from the old "SMiLE Shop" where someone mentioned that even if there never was another Beach Boys album or tour, it would be nice if Brian and Mike could reconcile (I believe at the time Brian had mentioned the only contact he had with his cousin was that they exchanged holiday cards) and stop spending this period in their lives in courtrooms.  Hopefully as Mike has mentioned that stuff is all in the past and this could be therapeutic for not only Brian but everyone involved.
I hope this is the end of the Brian/Mike feud.  I never thought it would happen but I guess if it worked for Roger Waters/David Gilmour it is possible it might work for Brian and Mike.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Craig Boyd on December 19, 2011, 08:56:35 AM

 :o

That's it!! That's all we need! Brian is there all right, it's that look!

Ain't it priceless?

It sure is!  8)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Craig Boyd on December 19, 2011, 08:59:37 AM

Yup.  I agree.  Easily the coolest, bad-ass part of the video.  He actually looks like a Rock Star, then you see him and Brian hug and he even comes off as a cool guy. 

Say what you want about Mike, but he's Mike.  He's basically the same person he was when he was 18.  Good and Bad. 

Totally agree, some people are going on about wanting Mike to change the way he acts on stage and drop the patter. Why? He's been doing it for 50 years, it's what Mike does so why should he change now. I'm actually looking forward to the chicken dance and his hand gestures during the chorus of Good Vibrations. Everything about this is gonna be swell  ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SMiLE Brian on December 19, 2011, 10:30:19 AM
Can't change Mike Love. ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Heysaboda on December 19, 2011, 10:31:16 AM
Hearing the DIA snippet, I was amazed at how unmistakably BB it really sounded.  Mike's sounding a lot better than he did in the 80s, and the group blend just sounds vintage. 

You know what I've been thiking for a while?  I think the key is Al Jardine.  I think his voice is pretty sweet, always has been, and you can hear it in most of their original songs; he still sounds pretty good, so if you do that type of song with Al's voice in the blend, I think that's the key to getting that Beach Boys 'sound'.  Carl of course was also a HUGE part of the blend, but Al is still with us thankfully.

Everybody knows the 'bass' sound on any recording is kind of unidrectional for lack of a better word, it's imitable and you can't easily discern with your ear who's singing a bass note.  Also the falsetto part, although tough to do, can be imitated too, Al & Carl (and Bruce) in my opinion always had the hard lines to sing, the middle part of the harmony is tough to handle and keep straight.  As well known as the boys are for the falsetto, I think the real meat and bones was always the middle harmonies. 

Go ahead.  Ridicule me if you must, lol. 

I think your point is well taken, Ron.

Here's the deal:

Even after all these years, Brian, Mike, Al and Bruce have a distinct VOCAL CHARISMA, that's present when they are singing together.

There's just something about those voices!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on December 19, 2011, 10:55:26 AM
I just saw the video. I haven't felt this happy for ages.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 19, 2011, 11:07:08 AM
By the way, the most recent "Do It Again" video(which has the song complete) honestly shows Jeffrey Foskett doing the highest notes. I enjoy the re-make, and double-tracking has effectively concealed Mike Love's present-day hoarseness.

By the way, as for 2012 CD releases, all we know is that some sort of box set, a reunion album & a greatest hits CD will be included. It is never specifically stated that these projects will include remixes, previously unreleased songs/versions or expanded editions of any specific back catalogue albums. My view is, if we get more archival material & remixes, I'm delighted and I'll buy the CD's. But if we don't get more archival material & remixes, I won't be broken-hearted. "The Smile Sessions" was aimed at avid fans. The 2012 release campaign may be intended to introduce the music to a new generation of listeners; people who have little or no Beach Boys music in their collection. "Greatest Hits"-type collections by The Beach Boys sell well. That's why Capitol keeps cranking out hits discs. This group has had more greatest hits albums than The Doors. And that's an incredible statistic!

No, not "some sort of box set": the press release wording was very specific, for them as cared to read it properly. It's a career spanning box set. Phil, that means from 1961 to date, and as there's going to be a new GH CD for Joe Q. Public, the clear inference is that said box will be targeted at the likes of us - 1993 rebooted. There was also mention of "other commemorative releases", with the words "possible" or "maybe" conspicuous by their absence. I have a notion what these may be. I hope I'm right.

You're not married, are you Phil ?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on December 19, 2011, 11:10:30 AM
You two sound like you're married!

As long as we don't have to listen to the make up sex.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: pixletwin on December 19, 2011, 11:10:50 AM
I hope "commemorative" means CF and WIBNTLA.  :angel:


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: The Madcap on December 19, 2011, 11:12:06 AM
Can't change Mike Love. ;D

He can never learn not to (be Mike) Love.   :lol


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Justin on December 19, 2011, 11:13:16 AM
I want a complete box set with each album in a mini-LP reproduction packaging!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: elnombre on December 19, 2011, 11:15:38 AM
I want a complete box set with each album in a mini-LP reproduction packaging!

Is it my imagination or did Japan get one a few years ago?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 19, 2011, 11:36:45 AM
You two sound like you're married!

As long as we don't have to listen to the make up sex.

Pass the brain bleach, please...


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: oldsurferdude on December 19, 2011, 11:40:35 AM
You two sound like you're married!

As long as we don't have to listen to the make up sex.
QUOTE OF THE WEEK!! :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Justin on December 19, 2011, 11:53:31 AM
I want a complete box set with each album in a mini-LP reproduction packaging!

Is it my imagination or did Japan get one a few years ago?

I believe they did. But it wasn't it just a few albums?  Sunflower, Smiley Smile, Summer Nights?  It wasn't the entire catalog as I recall. 


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: tansen on December 19, 2011, 12:03:12 PM
I want a complete box set with each album in a mini-LP reproduction packaging!

Is it my imagination or did Japan get one a few years ago?

I believe they did. But it wasn't it just a few albums?  Sunflower, Smiley Smile, Summer Nights?  It wasn't the entire catalog as I recall.  

I've got these japanese Mini-LP sleeve releases:

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9381125/beach%20boys%20japanese%20slipcase.png) - but never got a box for them.
Bigger size here: http://db.tt/UyLVDG04 (http://db.tt/UyLVDG04)

These are from the 90's though.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Ron on December 19, 2011, 01:09:00 PM
My money's on Andrew.  If they actually get into a fist fight, I don't think Andrew would fight fair, he'd end up going for the jugular or something, or tripping Phil over a stack o' tracks or something and kicking him while he's down, lol.   

Of course, all's fair in love and war, though. 


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 19, 2011, 01:12:05 PM
By the way, the most recent "Do It Again" video(which has the song complete) honestly shows Jeffrey Foskett doing the highest notes. I enjoy the re-make, and double-tracking has effectively concealed Mike Love's present-day hoarseness.

By the way, as for 2012 CD releases, all we know is that some sort of box set, a reunion album & a greatest hits CD will be included. It is never specifically stated that these projects will include remixes, previously unreleased songs/versions or expanded editions of any specific back catalogue albums. My view is, if we get more archival material & remixes, I'm delighted and I'll buy the CD's. But if we don't get more archival material & remixes, I won't be broken-hearted. "The Smile Sessions" was aimed at avid fans. The 2012 release campaign may be intended to introduce the music to a new generation of listeners; people who have little or no Beach Boys music in their collection. "Greatest Hits"-type collections by The Beach Boys sell well. That's why Capitol keeps cranking out hits discs. This group has had more greatest hits albums than The Doors. And that's an incredible statistic!

No, not "some sort of box set": the press release wording was very specific, for them as cared to read it properly. It's a career spanning box set. Phil, that means from 1961 to date, and as there's going to be a new GH CD for Joe Q. Public, the clear inference is that said box will be targeted at the likes of us - 1993 rebooted. There was also mention of "other commemorative releases", with the words "possible" or "maybe" conspicuous by their absence. I have a notion what these may be. I hope I'm right.

You're not married, are you Phil ?

The ideal situation for an obsessive/compulsive music collector, collecting since 1966(who seeks out costly CD/DVD/Vinyl box sets) and has a 1375 watt surround sound home theater, is to be single and be able to spend my disposable income only on myself.....and so I am single(no one to complain about me, my ampilfication and my big speakers when I rock the house down.....though I seldom do: I can only take about 90 minutes of playing the system loudly in a 14" x 14" space)

A box set can be "career spanning" and also contain no(or almost no) rarities or vault material(for example, box sets by Steve Miller Band, Steely Dan, The Moody Blues & Steve Winwood)

And there's a very legitimate question of how much 1960's Beach Boys vault material remains. When the question was posed to Mark Linett(in one of the "Icon Fetch" internet interviews), he slightly evaded answering, and spoke of remixing some previously mono recordings for stereo. Let's not forget that this group was under a harsh 3 albums per year contract; a contract which Mike Love once refered to as "Capitol Punishment". That title was later adopted as title for a 2-CD bootleg of session excerpts from "The Beach Boys Today"


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Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on December 19, 2011, 01:15:05 PM
Love to see a stereo "Wild Honey" with bonus tracks.

And we all want all those unreleased Dennis songs.

My money's on AGD too.  He has predicted EVERYTHING going back a year ago; starting with the Smile Sessions.

Holy Crap.  It just dawned on me. AGD is the secret CEO of Brother Records, Inc. (BRI).
He's that guy, shrouded in darkness, behind that big desk with the big cigar.


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Post by: elnombre on December 19, 2011, 01:22:48 PM
I want a complete box set with each album in a mini-LP reproduction packaging!

Is it my imagination or did Japan get one a few years ago?

I believe they did. But it wasn't it just a few albums?  Sunflower, Smiley Smile, Summer Nights?  It wasn't the entire catalog as I recall. 

Ah, right you are.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 19, 2011, 01:47:41 PM
A box set can be "career spanning" and also contain no(or almost no) rarities or vault material(for example, box sets by Steve Miller Band, Steely Dan, The Moody Blues & Steve Winwood)

Or it can be like a mid-90s box by a certain West coast surf band and have close to 30 previously unreleased tracks spread over 4CDs and an entire 5th CD of alternate versions, instrumental tracks and sessions.

You've no idea how glad I am I live on a different continent from you - your relentless pessimism is undoubtedly highly contagious. Never come across anyone else who looks so morbidly on the black side of things. You must lead a most depressing existence.


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Post by: The Shift on December 19, 2011, 02:04:42 PM
A box set can be "career spanning" and also contain no(or almost no) rarities or vault material(for example, box sets by Steve Miller Band, Steely Dan, The Moody Blues & Steve Winwood)

Or it can be like a mid-90s box by a certain West coast surf band and have close to 30 previously unreleased tracks spread over 4CDs and an entire 5th CD of alternate versions, instrumental tracks and sessions.

You've no idea how glad I am I live on a different continent from you - your relentless pessimism is undoubtedly highly contagious. Never come across anyone else who looks so morbidly on the black side of things. You must lead a most depressing existence.

I don't see it as pessimism, it's just cold hard facts, Andrew.  The coldest, hardest facts findable. The bleaker you anticipate things being, the rosier they seem then they get here.

Phil, I'd guess that Mark gave the question a body-swerve in that manner to avoid getting into a conversation that might have revealed the project and how much work had already been done on that project.

Remember, this is also a band that hasn't catalogued everything yet – remember how the five run-throughs of Surf's Up were found on a Wild Honey-era reel.  Heaven knows how much more stuff like that has been/is waiting to be discovered in this way.

You can't be a Beach Boys fan without harboring hope in your heart.


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Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 19, 2011, 02:24:36 PM
I don't see it as pessimism, it's just cold hard facts, Andrew.  The coldest, hardest facts findable. The bleaker you anticipate things being, the rosier they seem then they get here.

I'd agree, if Phil subscribed to that doctrine... but over the summer, every time his dire prognostications re: TSS were proven to be wrong (and it was every time), he didn't go "oh goody, so glad I was wrong", but found something else to bitch about. Phil is one of those people who love being unhappy. I really, really do believe that, and if that floats his boat, fine by me... but when he comes around here, pissing on everyone's fire because no-one's telling him anything and generally boring the tits off of us all with his unremitting gloom, then I feel entirely justified in telling him to STFU. Unfortunately, he doesn't, so I guess I'll just have to fly out to Florida and fire-bomb his house, destroying his collection and hi fi equipment: now that would really give him something to bitch about.  ;D


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Post by: Wirestone on December 19, 2011, 02:27:37 PM
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so I guess I'll just have to fly out to Florida and fire-bomb his house, destroying his collection and hi fi equipment: now that would really give him something to bitch about.

The hell?


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Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on December 19, 2011, 02:27:46 PM
Both AGD and PhilCohen make valid points.

The 93 box-set was a model of superiority! The ones Phil mentioned were compiled with the mentality that most music fans had recently trashed/melted/sold/buried away in the basement all their scratched up and warped old vinyl albums because CDs were the new thing and sounded like gold and that was it. Those box sets made people happy that so much of a band's best stuff was available on CD and all in one nice and shiny place.



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Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 19, 2011, 02:32:26 PM
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so I guess I'll just have to fly out to Florida and fire-bomb his house, destroying his collection and hi fi equipment: now that would really give him something to bitch about.

The hell?

Humor not your strong suit today ?  :lol


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 19, 2011, 02:35:40 PM
A box set can be "career spanning" and also contain no(or almost no) rarities or vault material(for example, box sets by Steve Miller Band, Steely Dan, The Moody Blues & Steve Winwood)

Or it can be like a mid-90s box by a certain West coast surf band and have close to 30 previously unreleased tracks spread over 4CDs and an entire 5th CD of alternate versions, instrumental tracks and sessions.

You've no idea how glad I am I live on a different continent from you - your relentless pessimism is undoubtedly highly contagious. Never come across anyone else who looks so morbidly on the black side of things. You must lead a most depressing existence.

I don't see it as pessimism, it's just cold hard facts, Andrew.  The coldest, hardest facts findable. The bleaker you anticipate things being, the rosier they seem then they get here.

Phil, I'd guess that Mark gave the question a body-swerve in that manner to avoid getting into a conversation that might have revealed the project and how much work had already been done on that project.

Remember, this is also a band that hasn't catalogued everything yet

But, Mark Linett claimed years ago that he HAD done an extensive cataloging project. But, I suppose, that, as with the Jimi Hendrix estate, new reels are occasionally being found at recording studios, storage facilities or in private collections. It's not entirely impossible that someday(given the quantity of missing reels) that someone will come forward with more "Smile" tapes. After all, over the past few decades, a few additional Robert Johnson alternate takes have been found. The locating of those outtakes(from the pre-tape era) seemed unlikely too.

For these Beach Boys projects, I hope for the best.  But, given the amount of (non-Smile)Beach Boys outtakes already in circulation officially or unofficially, getting "Smile" was the most important thing. We now have "Smile", and I'm happy about that.


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Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on December 19, 2011, 02:37:22 PM
Both AGD and PhilCohen make valid points.

The 93 box-set was a model of superiority! The ones Phil mentioned were compiled with the mentality that most music fans had recently trashed/melted/sold/buried away in the basement all their scratched up and warped old vinyl albums because CDs were the new thing and sounded like gold and that was it. Those box sets made people happy that so much of a band's best stuff was available on CD and all in one nice and shiny place.



The latest trend in box sets is mining the vaults.  I expects a career spanning set with lots of unreleased stuff.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 19, 2011, 02:40:24 PM
Both AGD and PhilCohen make valid points.

The 93 box-set was a model of superiority!



Generally yes, except for the two nasty speed fluctuations in "Do You Like Worms", and lopping off several (pedal steel) guitar notes at the start of the single version of "Cottonfields".


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 19, 2011, 02:46:50 PM
Both AGD and PhilCohen make valid points.

The 93 box-set was a model of superiority! The ones Phil mentioned were compiled with the mentality that most music fans had recently trashed/melted/sold/buried away in the basement all their scratched up and warped old vinyl albums because CDs were the new thing and sounded like gold and that was it. Those box sets made people happy that so much of a band's best stuff was available on CD and all in one nice and shiny place.



The latest trend in box sets is mining the vaults.  I expects a career spanning set with lots of unreleased stuff.

There may be lots of unreleased 1970's & 1980's Beach Boys studio material, but is it any good? Interestingly , Mike Love(who had far more writing input during that era) is the one who has, historically opposed the release of that material. Even Mike Love must realise that The Beach Boys in the studio without Brian Wilson songs is a lesser entity.


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Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on December 19, 2011, 02:52:34 PM
Both AGD and PhilCohen make valid points.

The 93 box-set was a model of superiority! The ones Phil mentioned were compiled with the mentality that most music fans had recently trashed/melted/sold/buried away in the basement all their scratched up and warped old vinyl albums because CDs were the new thing and sounded like gold and that was it. Those box sets made people happy that so much of a band's best stuff was available on CD and all in one nice and shiny place.



The latest trend in box sets is mining the vaults.  I expects a career spanning set with lots of unreleased stuff.

There may be lots of unreleased 1970's & 1980's Beach Boys studio material, but is it any good? Interestingly , Mike Love(who had far more writing input during that era) is the one who has, historically opposed the release of that material. Even Mike Love must realise that The Beach Boys in the studio without Brian Wilson songs is a lesser entity.

It's different, that's about as far as I can take it. Different doesn't necessarily mean lesser. I love Brian, but I also love just about everything with the Beach Boys name on it. It's always been hard for me to wrap my head around the "unless Brian's heavily involved, it's lesser" mentality. Too much of my fave stuff had little or no Brian involvement.

Is there really THAT much unreleased 70's stuff that no one knows about?


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Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on December 19, 2011, 02:59:25 PM
Both AGD and PhilCohen make valid points.

The 93 box-set was a model of superiority! The ones Phil mentioned were compiled with the mentality that most music fans had recently trashed/melted/sold/buried away in the basement all their scratched up and warped old vinyl albums because CDs were the new thing and sounded like gold and that was it. Those box sets made people happy that so much of a band's best stuff was available on CD and all in one nice and shiny place.



The latest trend in box sets is mining the vaults.  I expects a career spanning set with lots of unreleased stuff.

There may be lots of unreleased 1970's & 1980's Beach Boys studio material, but is it any good? Interestingly , Mike Love(who had far more writing input during that era) is the one who has, historically opposed the release of that material. Even Mike Love must realise that The Beach Boys in the studio without Brian Wilson songs is a lesser entity.

Dennis Wilson


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Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on December 19, 2011, 03:14:38 PM
a lesser entity, of course


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 19, 2011, 03:15:04 PM
Both AGD and PhilCohen make valid points.

The 93 box-set was a model of superiority! The ones Phil mentioned were compiled with the mentality that most music fans had recently trashed/melted/sold/buried away in the basement all their scratched up and warped old vinyl albums because CDs were the new thing and sounded like gold and that was it. Those box sets made people happy that so much of a band's best stuff was available on CD and all in one nice and shiny place.



The latest trend in box sets is mining the vaults.  I expects a career spanning set with lots of unreleased stuff.

There may be lots of unreleased 1970's & 1980's Beach Boys studio material, but is it any good? Interestingly , Mike Love(who had far more writing input during that era) is the one who has, historically opposed the release of that material. Even Mike Love must realise that The Beach Boys in the studio without Brian Wilson songs is a lesser entity.

It's different, that's about as far as I can take it. Different doesn't necessarily mean lesser. I love Brian, but I also love just about everything with the Beach Boys name on it. It's always been hard for me to wrap my head around the "unless Brian's heavily involved, it's lesser" mentality. Too much of my fave stuff had little or no Brian involvement.

Is there really THAT much unreleased 70's stuff that no one knows about?

We don't know, but there's plenty of 1970's & 1980's vault material that has only appeared on bootlegs & with only fair-to-middling cassette quality.


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Post by: Dave Modny on December 19, 2011, 03:26:36 PM

There may be lots of unreleased 1970's & 1980's Beach Boys studio material, but is it any good?


Stuff like It's A New Day, Big Sur (4/4 version) Carry Me Home, Hard Times sure sound pretty darned good to my ears! Also, judging by the Marsland Band/Sands version of Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again and the wonderful descriptions by those who have actually heard the BB's version, I'd reckon that one's flat-out stunning.

Start factoring in stuff like the '74 California Feeling and other yet-unheard-by-the-masses tracks (though listed at Bellagio), and I'm sure they'd have no problem at all giving us plenty of good, even excellent material from the 70s if they wanted to (and 60s, too). I have a 1978 phone interview with Brian, somewhere in my collection mess, where he mentions a song called Bowling (also listed at Bellagio), so I'm sure they could pad the set with quirky Love You-esqe ditties, as well, that would appeal to a certain sector of fans.

Hell, I could come up with 20-25 choice, unreleased-as-of-yet or released, but harder to find rarities for a box set that I would classify (or imagine) as good without even breaking a sweat! Then, add alternate or new stereo mixes, rare mono, some live stuff, some vintage Smile mixes that were left of TSS, new recordings, or any other surprises, and I think it could be something that could equal or even surpass the '93 set:



Bless the fact that this band was a recording machine in their heyday:


Sandy She Needs Me (track)
You've Got To Hide Your Love Away (live)
CIFOTM (original Smile mix)
Barnyard (original Smile mix)
The Letter
Mona Kani (track)
Where Is She
My Solution
Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again
Walkin'
Back Home (either of the earlier versions)
Big Sur (4/4)
Seasons In The Sun
It's A New Day
Carry Me Home
Hard Times
California Feeling ('74) or any other surviving Guercio sessions
In The Back Of My Mind (remake)
Shake, Rattle & Roll
Mony, Mony
Sea Cruise
It's A Beautiful Day
Runaway

etc., etc... and I'm sure I'm forgetting plenty!


Carnegie Hall '72, the Paramount box set show, live rarities from the 60s, BW Love You demos, solo rarities, backing tracks, more Smile, the aforementioned rare mixes, etc. The possibilities are endless.



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Post by: Rocker on December 19, 2011, 03:29:53 PM
I'd love to have the complete Chicago '65 concert


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 19, 2011, 03:46:14 PM
I'd love to have the complete Chicago '65 concert

Yes, I agree, even though the group's concert set list hadn't changed much subsequent to the August 1964 Sacramento shows. I'd also like to hear the early, rejected Sacramento show(late 1963?) which was the apparent source for "Johnny B.Goode" & "Long Tall Texan". It has long been established (by bootlegs) that those two songs were not included in the August 1964 Sacramento shows.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SMiLE Brian on December 19, 2011, 04:10:28 PM
I'd love to have the complete Chicago '65 concert
Thats the one concert I really want to hear, as it the end of the Brian touring era.


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Post by: Ron on December 19, 2011, 04:28:41 PM
I haven't heard hardly any of the 70's unreleased stuff, and the 70's stuff is about my favorite era of the band (I'm just not that big into boots).  I heard "My Diane" just the other day and almost died. 

I would imagine, just me, that there's a sh*t LOAD of stuff they can still put out.  Even alternate takes are incredibly fascinating. 


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Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on December 19, 2011, 04:46:10 PM
I'd LOVE an official live album from the Box-Set tour!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jim V. on December 19, 2011, 08:43:59 PM

There may be lots of unreleased 1970's & 1980's Beach Boys studio material, but is it any good?


Stuff like It's A New Day, Big Sur (4/4 version) Carry Me Home, Hard Times sure sound pretty darned good to my ears! Also, judging by the Marsland Band/Sands version of Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again and the wonderful descriptions by those who have actually heard the BB's version, I'd reckon that one's flat-out stunning.

Start factoring in stuff like the '74 California Feeling and other yet-unheard-by-the-masses tracks (though listed at Bellagio), and I'm sure they'd have no problem at all giving us plenty of good, even excellent material from the 70s if they wanted to (and 60s, too). I have a 1978 phone interview with Brian, somewhere in my collection mess, where he mentions a song called Bowling (also listed at Bellagio), so I'm sure they could pad the set with quirky Love You-esqe ditties, as well, that would appeal to a certain sector of fans.

Hell, I could come up with 20-25 choice, unreleased-as-of-yet or released, but harder to find rarities for a box set that I would classify (or imagine) as good without even breaking a sweat! Then, add alternate or new stereo mixes, rare mono, some live stuff, some vintage Smile mixes that were left of TSS, new recordings, or any other surprises, and I think it could be something that could equal or even surpass the '93 set:



Bless the fact that this band was a recording machine in their heyday:


Sandy She Needs Me (track)
You've Got To Hide Your Love Away (live)
CIFOTM (original Smile mix)
Barnyard (original Smile mix)
The Letter
Mona Kani (track)
Where Is She
My Solution
Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again
Walkin'
Back Home (either of the earlier versions)
Big Sur (4/4)
Seasons In The Sun
It's A New Day
Carry Me Home
Hard Times
California Feeling ('74) or any other surviving Guercio sessions
In The Back Of My Mind (remake)
Shake, Rattle & Roll
Mony, Mony
Sea Cruise
It's A Beautiful Day
Runaway

etc., etc... and I'm sure I'm forgetting plenty!


Carnegie Hall '72, the Paramount box set show, live rarities from the 60s, BW Love You demos, solo rarities, backing tracks, more Smile, the aforementioned rare mixes, etc. The possibilities are endless.



Wow. Yeah. I'd take that exact set. There is a lot of great material on that set, and still, a lot of Brian Wilson material, and overall just a lot of good stuff, so I think in this case Phil is just wrong.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: stack-o-tracks on December 19, 2011, 09:01:16 PM
Phil didn't make a statement, he asked a question.

How can you be wrong by asking a question?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: 18thofMay on December 19, 2011, 09:10:18 PM
Phil didn't make a statement, he asked a question.

How can you be wrong by asking a question?

It was a rhetorical question.
Therefore it becomes a passive-aggresive statement.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jim V. on December 19, 2011, 09:10:42 PM
He asks if the unreleased '70s material is any good? I'm going go out on limb and say he probably knows a bit about The Beach Boys unreleased '70s material somewhat due to his obsession with the SMiLE material. I'd just kinda figure somebody that found that thru bootlegs and such would be interested in the '70s material. And he's trying to make it sound as though there is probably nothing good from the '70s or '80s so they should just scrap the whole thing, because that way he can be right.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: b00ts on December 19, 2011, 09:23:20 PM
He asks if the unreleased '70s material is any good? I'm going go out on limb and say he probably knows a bit about The Beach Boys unreleased '70s material somewhat due to his obsession with the SMiLE material. I'd just kinda figure somebody that found that thru bootlegs and such would be interested in the '70s material. And he's trying to make it sound as though there is probably nothing good from the '70s or '80s so they should just scrap the whole thing, because that way he can be right.
Actually, sweetdudejim, you and everyone else should learn when you've been beaten.

Phil is right.

Here I am, enjoying Sunflower, Surfs Up, Holland, Carl & The Passions: So Tough, Love You, and to a lesser extent, the other three... For years and years... and Phil Cohen comes along and makes me realize that not only is there little to no good material in the vaults from those years, but that by inference, the albums from the 70s aren't very good at all.

Apparently, the 1970s were not a very productive decade for The Beach Boys. Go figure.

Thank you, Phil, for pointing out the futility of human endeavor time and time again. By the way, those nasty, ear-raping edits from the 1993 box set are now poison to my ears. I burned it in a ceremony earlier today. Next stop: class action suit against Mark Linnet and BRI!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Micha on December 19, 2011, 09:29:51 PM
Both AGD and PhilCohen make valid points.

The 93 box-set was a model of superiority!



Generally yes, except for the two nasty speed fluctuations in "Do You Like Worms", and lopping off several (pedal steel) guitar notes at the start of the single version of "Cottonfields".

I had thought the speed fluctuations were deliberate and loved them - even after I learned those were tape glitches.

I have yet to hear 70s post-Sunflower outtakes that I like - except Dennis' Carry Me Home, so the one song I haven't heard yet I set hope in is WIBN(TLA). It's just that I don't like most of the 70s music done by anyone.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jonathan Blum on December 19, 2011, 09:31:54 PM
Just watched the full clip, and I'm just plain flabbergasted!

For a bit of perspective, folks... put this next to the re-recording of "Surfin'".  Which, incidentally, was twenty years ago now.

The road from there to here is nothing short of miraculous!

Cheers,
Jon Blum


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Reverend Rock on December 19, 2011, 10:03:03 PM
Hearing the DIA snippet, I was amazed at how unmistakably BB it really sounded.  Mike's sounding a lot better than he did in the 80s, and the group blend just sounds vintage. 

You know what I've been thiking for a while?  I think the key is Al Jardine.  I think his voice is pretty sweet, always has been, and you can hear it in most of their original songs; he still sounds pretty good, so if you do that type of song with Al's voice in the blend, I think that's the key to getting that Beach Boys 'sound'.  Carl of course was also a HUGE part of the blend, but Al is still wtih us thankfully.

Everybody knows the 'bass' sound on any recording is kind of unidrectional for lack of a better word, it's imitable and you can't easily discern with your ear who's singing a bass note.  Also the falsetto part, although tough to do, can be imitated too, Al & Carl (and Bruce) in my opinion always had the hard lines to sing, the middle part of the harmony is tough to handle and keep straight.  As well known as the boys are for the falsetto, I think the real meat and bones was always the middle harmonies. 

Go ahead.  Ridicule me if you must, lol. 

No ridicule here.  I think you make a strong case.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 20, 2011, 12:31:41 AM
Wait a second. I'm not denying the brilliance of the "Sunflower" & "Surf's Up" albums, or that "Holland" has some fine vocals. The uneven(and sometimes bad) stuff comes after the group's 3 year hiatus from releasing studio material(reportedly because Reprise Records wouldn't accept recordings with no Brian Wilson involvement). Brian's voice starts to show damage from substance abuse, the touring members increasingly become an oldies band(particularly after the unexpected success of Capitol's compilations of 1962-65 material), and the group starts recording some particularly bad cover versions(especially the cover versions that didn't get released). With Brian only occasionally participating, the production craftsmanship suffers when he's not there.
                             I'm not saying that there aren't occasional good tracks on the post-1974 albums, but it is obvious that the group's heyday was on the recordings made between 1962 & 1972.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on December 20, 2011, 04:22:29 AM
I've seen the Beach Boys (with Carl) twice, in '89 and '91.

I've seen Brian five times.

But to see them together will be magical.

I wonder how it will be staged. Where will Brian be? Behind his keyboard and autocue, but not centre stage I would think. I hope he does a bit of bass playing, now that would be magic. If I take my contact lenses out, it could be 1964.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: vintagemusic on December 20, 2011, 04:38:36 AM
If I may ask, what are the best books for learning about the unreleased material.

I fall into that camp who believe, the Brian Wilson Beach Boys were superior. I think
its a testament to the rest of them, that when Brian Wilson faltered, the rest of them
had enough talent to start writing some good songs, and of course all of them are/were
great singers,

Having said that, I'd still be interested in collecting all the unreleased material, so I can
get a grasp of what exists, and I have no idea what books to read to even learn about
that material.

Did anyone ever write a Beach Boy book similar to the Beatle Anthology book by Lewishon
that documents all the sessions, and what songs were recorded, and who wrote them etc etc.

any references would be appreciated thank you


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Rocker on December 20, 2011, 05:52:44 AM

I fall into that camp who believe, the Brian Wilson Beach Boys were superior. I think
its a testament to the rest of them, that when Brian Wilson faltered, the rest of them
had enough talent to start writing some good songs, and of course all of them are/were
great singers,




The problem is that none of the other guys really had enough time to evolve in the band like Brian had (and he did it in such a hurry that is unbelievable). You automatically had the pressure to bring the Beach Boys back to where they were at their very peak, commercially and artistically, when you became the "leader" of the band.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Original Mix on December 20, 2011, 08:46:41 AM
If I may ask, what are the best books for learning about the unreleased material.


not a book but a web site. multiple pages. nice quick info of a lot of the stuff out there. after reading these pages try google.....you may get lucky   ;)

 http://www.beachboys.com/raritiesI.html#landlocked2


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Shady on December 20, 2011, 09:17:02 AM
Phil didn't make a statement, he asked a question.

How can you be wrong by asking a question?


On this board even a question is wrong  ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Mike's Beard on December 20, 2011, 10:02:01 AM
The Beach Boys may not have a bottomless pit of unreleased songs but the well is far from dry yet. And that's before you take into account all the archived live performances they potentially have at their disposal. I know Mike has mentioned before that he doesn't wish to scrape the bottom of the barrel so it may come down to what is left the band is willing to authorise for release.
A question for AGD is, as the band have been on several labels throughout their career, does that effect what they own rights-wise from their unrealised back catalogue?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jim V. on December 20, 2011, 10:13:28 AM
Wait a second. I'm not denying the brilliance of the "Sunflower" & "Surf's Up" albums, or that "Holland" has some fine vocals. The uneven(and sometimes bad) stuff comes after the group's 3 year hiatus from releasing studio material(reportedly because Reprise Records wouldn't accept recordings with no Brian Wilson involvement). Brian's voice starts to show damage from substance abuse, the touring members increasingly become an oldies band(particularly after the unexpected success of Capitol's compilations of 1962-65 material), and the group starts recording some particularly bad cover versions(especially the cover versions that didn't get released). With Brian only occasionally participating, the production craftsmanship suffers when he's not there.
                             I'm not saying that there aren't occasional good tracks on the post-1974 albums, but it is obvious that the group's heyday was on the recordings made between 1962 & 1972.

But Phil, so you are saying you wouldn't be interested in outtakes from Sunflower, Surf's Up, Carl & The Passions "So Tough", or Holland? Or even some material from the 1974 Caribou sessions?  The 1974 "California Feelin'"? Or possibly material Brian worked on randomly in the "fallow" years, like the re-recording of "In the Back of My Mind"? That all sounds VERY interesting to me. And guess what, even though they did end up having some embarrassing material after 1976, they also had a lot of good, interesting stuff, especially from Brian and Dennis, so I think there is quite a lot that they should still release.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wirestone on December 20, 2011, 10:26:49 AM
Quote
A question for AGD is, as the band have been on several labels throughout their career, does that effect what they own rights-wise from their unrealised back catalogue?

They had three, really. Capitol, Warners and CBS. I believe that all the albums post-Capitol and released under the Brother imprint are actually owned by the band, so rights issues aren't a big deal. They licensed the whole back catalog to Capitol for the early 00s re-releases, for example.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Mike's Beard on December 20, 2011, 10:41:23 AM
Thanks Wirestone. It really depends on the band then. Despite what Phil may claim, I imagine the record company would be falling over itself to put out more vaults material, especially after The Smile Sessions being such a smash.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Christian on December 20, 2011, 10:48:14 AM
I'm guessing the "worldwide" part of the tour equates to something like ....

Germany - Berlin, Munich, Frankfurt

2 confirmed German dates so far:

Aug. 3, Berlin, o2 World
Aug. 4, Stuttgart, Hanns-Martin-Schleyer-Halle


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: hypehat on December 20, 2011, 11:56:30 AM
Damn! Source?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 20, 2011, 12:16:05 PM
Wait a second. I'm not denying the brilliance of the "Sunflower" & "Surf's Up" albums, or that "Holland" has some fine vocals. The uneven(and sometimes bad) stuff comes after the group's 3 year hiatus from releasing studio material(reportedly because Reprise Records wouldn't accept recordings with no Brian Wilson involvement). Brian's voice starts to show damage from substance abuse, the touring members increasingly become an oldies band(particularly after the unexpected success of Capitol's compilations of 1962-65 material), and the group starts recording some particularly bad cover versions(especially the cover versions that didn't get released). With Brian only occasionally participating, the production craftsmanship suffers when he's not there.
                             I'm not saying that there aren't occasional good tracks on the post-1974 albums, but it is obvious that the group's heyday was on the recordings made between 1962 & 1972.

But Phil, so you are saying you wouldn't be interested in outtakes from Sunflower, Surf's Up, Carl & The Passions "So Tough", or Holland? Or even some material from the 1974 Caribou sessions?  The 1974 "California Feelin'"? Or possibly material Brian worked on randomly in the "fallow" years, like the re-recording of "In the Back of My Mind"? That all sounds VERY interesting to me. And guess what, even though they did end up having some embarrassing material after 1976, they also had a lot of good, interesting stuff, especially from Brian and Dennis, so I think there is quite a lot that they should still release.

Yes, I WOULD be interested in outtakes from "Sunflower", "Surf's Up" & "Holland". But outtakes from "15 Big Ones"? I'll pass.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Heysaboda on December 20, 2011, 12:16:40 PM
We don't know, but there's plenty of 1970's & 1980's vault material that has only appeared on bootlegs & with only fair-to-middling cassette quality.

I would love to see a regular, periodic "bootleg series" of the Beach Boys, concerts, vault tracks, rarities, B-sides, similar to what Dylan has done.  There have been MANY outstanding suggestions on this thread alone!



Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: lance on December 20, 2011, 12:59:48 PM
I really think that's the way they should go. Release an album or two of outtakes and so on that we rabid fans will eat up. It's more viable than the deluxe mono/stereo+bonus materials that most reus dream about, and we'll be able to roll our own.

I was thinking, a lot of people have been worried that the new album is going to be Imagination part 2. While Imagaination is by no means at the top of my list of their catalog, I do feel it's a damned sight better than BB85, Still Cruisin' or Summer of Love(haven't heard the country album.) It would not be a terrible way to go out...


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Pretty Funky on December 20, 2011, 02:19:01 PM
I'm guessing the "worldwide" part of the tour equates to something like ....

Germany - Berlin, Munich, Frankfurt

2 confirmed German dates so far:

Aug. 3, Berlin, o2 World
Aug. 4, Stuttgart, Hanns-Martin-Schleyer-Halle

Tickets

http://www.o2world-berlin.de/Event/tickets/1530/The-Beach-Boys.html


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on December 20, 2011, 02:27:15 PM
Wait a second. I'm not denying the brilliance of the "Sunflower" & "Surf's Up" albums, or that "Holland" has some fine vocals. The uneven(and sometimes bad) stuff comes after the group's 3 year hiatus from releasing studio material(reportedly because Reprise Records wouldn't accept recordings with no Brian Wilson involvement). Brian's voice starts to show damage from substance abuse, the touring members increasingly become an oldies band(particularly after the unexpected success of Capitol's compilations of 1962-65 material), and the group starts recording some particularly bad cover versions(especially the cover versions that didn't get released). With Brian only occasionally participating, the production craftsmanship suffers when he's not there.
                             I'm not saying that there aren't occasional good tracks on the post-1974 albums, but it is obvious that the group's heyday was on the recordings made between 1962 & 1972.

But Phil, so you are saying you wouldn't be interested in outtakes from Sunflower, Surf's Up, Carl & The Passions "So Tough", or Holland? Or even some material from the 1974 Caribou sessions?  The 1974 "California Feelin'"? Or possibly material Brian worked on randomly in the "fallow" years, like the re-recording of "In the Back of My Mind"? That all sounds VERY interesting to me. And guess what, even though they did end up having some embarrassing material after 1976, they also had a lot of good, interesting stuff, especially from Brian and Dennis, so I think there is quite a lot that they should still release.

Yes, I WOULD be interested in outtakes from "Sunflower", "Surf's Up" & "Holland". But outtakes from "15 Big Ones"? I'll pass.

REAL fans want them all.  It's all part of the fascination and intrigue.  An evolutionary scientist wouldn't skip the Paleozoic Era.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Aegir on December 20, 2011, 02:37:15 PM
new Beach Boys music is new Beach Boys music. duh.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on December 20, 2011, 02:55:31 PM
An evolutionary scientist wouldn't skip the Paleozoic Era.

Evolution is a lie. The world is only 5000 years old. Which means if the history of the world is condensed into a 24 hour clock then the 1960's hasn't happened yet, which means we may still get a finished SMiLE. So lets get kneebound to the God of the desert dwelling misogynists. It's Christmas for gods sake, only three months to go till Jesuses birthday. (I've got him some socks)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: the captain on December 20, 2011, 04:35:53 PM

REAL fans want them all.  It's all part of the fascination and intrigue.  An evolutionary scientist wouldn't skip the Paleozoic Era.
Nah, calling people's level of fandom into question is silly. A person can be a hits-only REAL fan just as easily as a completist REAL fan. Or a vocal-lovin real fan, an audiophile real fan, a back-story drama lovin real fan, a likes-dennis-shirtless real fan, a collectables real fan, a fat-bearded-guy-lovin real fan, or whatever else. People have every right to like things on their own terms, especially art.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: hypehat on December 20, 2011, 04:41:45 PM
An evolutionary scientist wouldn't skip the Paleozoic Era.

Evolution is a lie. The world is only 5000 years old. Which means if the history of the world is condensed into a 24 hour clock then the 1960's hasn't happened yet, which means we may still get a finished SMiLE. So lets get kneebound to the God of the desert dwelling misogynists. It's Christmas for gods sake, only three months to go till Jesuses birthday. (I've got him some socks)

 :lol


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: stack-o-tracks on December 20, 2011, 05:03:14 PM
Wait a second. I'm not denying the brilliance of the "Sunflower" & "Surf's Up" albums, or that "Holland" has some fine vocals. The uneven(and sometimes bad) stuff comes after the group's 3 year hiatus from releasing studio material(reportedly because Reprise Records wouldn't accept recordings with no Brian Wilson involvement). Brian's voice starts to show damage from substance abuse, the touring members increasingly become an oldies band(particularly after the unexpected success of Capitol's compilations of 1962-65 material), and the group starts recording some particularly bad cover versions(especially the cover versions that didn't get released). With Brian only occasionally participating, the production craftsmanship suffers when he's not there.
                             I'm not saying that there aren't occasional good tracks on the post-1974 albums, but it is obvious that the group's heyday was on the recordings made between 1962 & 1972.

But Phil, so you are saying you wouldn't be interested in outtakes from Sunflower, Surf's Up, Carl & The Passions "So Tough", or Holland? Or even some material from the 1974 Caribou sessions?  The 1974 "California Feelin'"? Or possibly material Brian worked on randomly in the "fallow" years, like the re-recording of "In the Back of My Mind"? That all sounds VERY interesting to me. And guess what, even though they did end up having some embarrassing material after 1976, they also had a lot of good, interesting stuff, especially from Brian and Dennis, so I think there is quite a lot that they should still release.

Yes, I WOULD be interested in outtakes from "Sunflower", "Surf's Up" & "Holland". But outtakes from "15 Big Ones"? I'll pass.

REAL fans want them all.  It's all part of the fascination and intrigue.  An evolutionary scientist wouldn't skip the Paleozoic Era.

That's complete bullshit. A REAL fan would have the balls to like and dislike whatever part of the band's catalog they so choose.

I guess I'm not a REAL fan since I think most of the stuff released post-Love You is garbage and could care less about songs that weren't good enough to be on sub-par albums.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: drbeachboy on December 20, 2011, 05:10:04 PM
Wait a second. I'm not denying the brilliance of the "Sunflower" & "Surf's Up" albums, or that "Holland" has some fine vocals. The uneven(and sometimes bad) stuff comes after the group's 3 year hiatus from releasing studio material(reportedly because Reprise Records wouldn't accept recordings with no Brian Wilson involvement). Brian's voice starts to show damage from substance abuse, the touring members increasingly become an oldies band(particularly after the unexpected success of Capitol's compilations of 1962-65 material), and the group starts recording some particularly bad cover versions(especially the cover versions that didn't get released). With Brian only occasionally participating, the production craftsmanship suffers when he's not there.
                             I'm not saying that there aren't occasional good tracks on the post-1974 albums, but it is obvious that the group's heyday was on the recordings made between 1962 & 1972.

But Phil, so you are saying you wouldn't be interested in outtakes from Sunflower, Surf's Up, Carl & The Passions "So Tough", or Holland? Or even some material from the 1974 Caribou sessions?  The 1974 "California Feelin'"? Or possibly material Brian worked on randomly in the "fallow" years, like the re-recording of "In the Back of My Mind"? That all sounds VERY interesting to me. And guess what, even though they did end up having some embarrassing material after 1976, they also had a lot of good, interesting stuff, especially from Brian and Dennis, so I think there is quite a lot that they should still release.

Yes, I WOULD be interested in outtakes from "Sunflower", "Surf's Up" & "Holland". But outtakes from "15 Big Ones"? I'll pass.

REAL fans want them all.  It's all part of the fascination and intrigue.  An evolutionary scientist wouldn't skip the Paleozoic Era.

That's complete bullsh*t. A REAL fan would have the balls to like and dislike whatever part of the band's catalog they so choose.

I guess I'm not a REAL fan since I think most of the stuff released post-Love You is garbage and could care less about songs that weren't good enough to be on sub-par albums.
Fan, it is short for fanatic. Please look it up, because you do not fit the description. You like some of their music, but by definition you are not a fan-atic. Just being REAL. ;)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: stack-o-tracks on December 20, 2011, 05:23:23 PM
Wait a second. I'm not denying the brilliance of the "Sunflower" & "Surf's Up" albums, or that "Holland" has some fine vocals. The uneven(and sometimes bad) stuff comes after the group's 3 year hiatus from releasing studio material(reportedly because Reprise Records wouldn't accept recordings with no Brian Wilson involvement). Brian's voice starts to show damage from substance abuse, the touring members increasingly become an oldies band(particularly after the unexpected success of Capitol's compilations of 1962-65 material), and the group starts recording some particularly bad cover versions(especially the cover versions that didn't get released). With Brian only occasionally participating, the production craftsmanship suffers when he's not there.
                             I'm not saying that there aren't occasional good tracks on the post-1974 albums, but it is obvious that the group's heyday was on the recordings made between 1962 & 1972.

But Phil, so you are saying you wouldn't be interested in outtakes from Sunflower, Surf's Up, Carl & The Passions "So Tough", or Holland? Or even some material from the 1974 Caribou sessions?  The 1974 "California Feelin'"? Or possibly material Brian worked on randomly in the "fallow" years, like the re-recording of "In the Back of My Mind"? That all sounds VERY interesting to me. And guess what, even though they did end up having some embarrassing material after 1976, they also had a lot of good, interesting stuff, especially from Brian and Dennis, so I think there is quite a lot that they should still release.

Yes, I WOULD be interested in outtakes from "Sunflower", "Surf's Up" & "Holland". But outtakes from "15 Big Ones"? I'll pass.

REAL fans want them all.  It's all part of the fascination and intrigue.  An evolutionary scientist wouldn't skip the Paleozoic Era.

That's complete bullsh*t. A REAL fan would have the balls to like and dislike whatever part of the band's catalog they so choose.

I guess I'm not a REAL fan since I think most of the stuff released post-Love You is garbage and could care less about songs that weren't good enough to be on sub-par albums.
Fan, it is short for fanatic. Please look it up, because you do not fit the description. You like some of their music, but by definition you are not a fan-atic. Just being REAL. ;)

Per Wikipedia:
Quote
Paul Dickson, in his Dickson Baseball Dictionary, cites William Henry Nugent's work that claims it comes from fancy, a 19th century term from England that referred mainly to followers of boxing. According to that unsupported explanation, it was originally shortened to fance then just to the homonym fans. However, Merriam-Webster, the Oxford dictionary and other recognized sources define it as a shortened version of the word fanatic, and the word did first become popular in reference to an enthusiastic follower of a baseball team. (Fanatic itself, introduced into English around 1550, means "marked by excessive enthusiasm and often intense uncritical devotion". It comes from the Modern Latin fanaticus, meaning "insanely but divinely inspired". The word originally pertained to a temple or sacred place [Latin fanum, poetic English fane]. The modern sense of "extremely zealous" dates from around 1647; the use of fanatic as a noun dates from 1650.)

Hmmmm. Now I don't know what to think.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: drbeachboy on December 20, 2011, 05:30:23 PM
Wait a second. I'm not denying the brilliance of the "Sunflower" & "Surf's Up" albums, or that "Holland" has some fine vocals. The uneven(and sometimes bad) stuff comes after the group's 3 year hiatus from releasing studio material(reportedly because Reprise Records wouldn't accept recordings with no Brian Wilson involvement). Brian's voice starts to show damage from substance abuse, the touring members increasingly become an oldies band(particularly after the unexpected success of Capitol's compilations of 1962-65 material), and the group starts recording some particularly bad cover versions(especially the cover versions that didn't get released). With Brian only occasionally participating, the production craftsmanship suffers when he's not there.
                             I'm not saying that there aren't occasional good tracks on the post-1974 albums, but it is obvious that the group's heyday was on the recordings made between 1962 & 1972.

But Phil, so you are saying you wouldn't be interested in outtakes from Sunflower, Surf's Up, Carl & The Passions "So Tough", or Holland? Or even some material from the 1974 Caribou sessions?  The 1974 "California Feelin'"? Or possibly material Brian worked on randomly in the "fallow" years, like the re-recording of "In the Back of My Mind"? That all sounds VERY interesting to me. And guess what, even though they did end up having some embarrassing material after 1976, they also had a lot of good, interesting stuff, especially from Brian and Dennis, so I think there is quite a lot that they should still release.

Yes, I WOULD be interested in outtakes from "Sunflower", "Surf's Up" & "Holland". But outtakes from "15 Big Ones"? I'll pass.

REAL fans want them all.  It's all part of the fascination and intrigue.  An evolutionary scientist wouldn't skip the Paleozoic Era.

That's complete bullsh*t. A REAL fan would have the balls to like and dislike whatever part of the band's catalog they so choose.

I guess I'm not a REAL fan since I think most of the stuff released post-Love You is garbage and could care less about songs that weren't good enough to be on sub-par albums.
Fan, it is short for fanatic. Please look it up, because you do not fit the description. You like some of their music, but by definition you are not a fan-atic. Just being REAL. ;)

Per Wikipedia:
Quote
Paul Dickson, in his Dickson Baseball Dictionary, cites William Henry Nugent's work that claims it comes from fancy, a 19th century term from England that referred mainly to followers of boxing. According to that unsupported explanation, it was originally shortened to fance then just to the homonym fans. However, Merriam-Webster, the Oxford dictionary and other recognized sources define it as a shortened version of the word fanatic, and the word did first become popular in reference to an enthusiastic follower of a baseball team. (Fanatic itself, introduced into English around 1550, means "marked by excessive enthusiasm and often intense uncritical devotion". It comes from the Modern Latin fanaticus, meaning "insanely but divinely inspired". The word originally pertained to a temple or sacred place [Latin fanum, poetic English fane]. The modern sense of "extremely zealous" dates from around 1647; the use of fanatic as a noun dates from 1650.)

Hmmmm. Now I don't know what to think.
You underlined it, so you see that you do not fit the description. You bitch more than you enthuse. I'm sure you don't feel that way, but that is what I take from reading most of your posts.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: hypehat on December 20, 2011, 05:31:29 PM
If that's how it is, I'm glad I'm not a fan. The Beach Boys are the best band I've ever heard, sure. But they are also the worst, by a considerable margin. Guess I'm not a fan, huh.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: drbeachboy on December 20, 2011, 05:35:25 PM
If that's how it is, I'm glad I'm not a fan. The Beach Boys are the best band I've ever heard, sure. But they are also the worst, by a considerable margin. Guess I'm not a fan, huh.
Guess not.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SMiLE Brian on December 20, 2011, 05:36:30 PM
Stack-o-tracks has a funny and objective viewpoint on the group. ;D Lets be honest, the stuff after Love You is really crappy with a few gems here and there. Love You was Brian Wilson's last stand as Beach Boys musical director.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: stack-o-tracks on December 20, 2011, 05:39:22 PM
Guess my status has been downgraded to casual listener. Am I allowed to continue reading/posting here?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: hypehat on December 20, 2011, 05:39:55 PM
If that's how it is, I'm glad I'm not a fan. The Beach Boys are the best band I've ever heard, sure. But they are also the worst, by a considerable margin. Guess I'm not a fan, huh.
Guess not.

I suppose the alternative is thinking SIP is valuable only because it's by The Beach Boys. If that ever happens to me, my best friend has instructions to chuck me under a 172 bus.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Ron on December 20, 2011, 05:40:06 PM
Got news for ya: Anybody who says they like the beach boys is by definition pretty deep on the 'dork' side.  Don't believe me?  Ask a hot chick.  


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: 18thofMay on December 20, 2011, 05:40:36 PM
Guess my status has been downgraded to casual listener. Am I allowed to continue reading/posting here?
You will have to fill in a form


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SMiLE Brian on December 20, 2011, 05:41:09 PM
Guess my status has been downgraded to casual listener. Am I allowed to continue reading/posting here?
Yes, i like your updates on when Carnie is on TV. ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Ron on December 20, 2011, 05:41:36 PM
Guess my status has been downgraded to casual listener. Am I allowed to continue reading/posting here?

Screw the haters.  You are who you are, I think you should do what you want to do regardless of whether others think you're a fan or not, lol.  All we've deduced is a few people and Webster's dictionary don't think you're a fan.  


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: stack-o-tracks on December 20, 2011, 05:42:59 PM
Got news for ya: Anybody who says they like the beach boys is by definition pretty deep on the 'dork' side.  Don't believe me?  Ask a hot chick.  

Oh yeah. Anybody who thinks otherwise is delusional.

Not that there's anything wrong with that, dorks still get laid sometimes just not as often.  ;)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: b00ts on December 20, 2011, 05:52:33 PM
Got news for ya: Anybody who says they like the beach boys is by definition pretty deep on the 'dork' side.  Don't believe me?  Ask a hot chick.  

Oh yeah. Anybody who thinks otherwise is delusional.

Not that there's anything wrong with that, dorks still get laid sometimes just not as often.  ;)
What is this 'laid' you speak of? Is it a never-before-heard Beach Boys out-take from KTSA??


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: stack-o-tracks on December 20, 2011, 05:54:31 PM
Got news for ya: Anybody who says they like the beach boys is by definition pretty deep on the 'dork' side.  Don't believe me?  Ask a hot chick.  

Oh yeah. Anybody who thinks otherwise is delusional.

Not that there's anything wrong with that, dorks still get laid sometimes just not as often.  ;)
What is this 'laid' you speak of? Is it a never-before-heard Beach Boys out-take from KTSA??

It's why Mike wanted to get to Kokomo quickly and take his time getting back.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: drbeachboy on December 20, 2011, 06:13:11 PM
If that's how it is, I'm glad I'm not a fan. The Beach Boys are the best band I've ever heard, sure. But they are also the worst, by a considerable margin. Guess I'm not a fan, huh.
Guess not.

I suppose the alternative is thinking SIP is valuable only because it's by The Beach Boys. If that ever happens to me, my best friend has instructions to chuck me under a 172 bus.
Yes, if you are a fanatic, otherwise no. Honestly, I originally came on these boards to share my love of the band and the music. When I would actually meet fans one on one, most of them shared the same love.  When I attended the conventions, same thing. Here, it is whole different thing. All the fussing, fighting, the hating, it is not what I expected from other FANS. Maybe it is just me and how I define being a FAN. I really do not want to get in a pissing contest about this, but being a part of this forum, as well as Hoffman's has really been an eye opener. I honestly did not expect to read as much hate (if that is the right word), as there is love for the band and the music. I feel a bit disillusioned.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: ArchStanton on December 20, 2011, 06:29:18 PM
Got news for ya: Anybody who says they like the beach boys is by definition pretty deep on the 'dork' side.  Don't believe me?  Ask a hot chick.  

My wife is pretty hot, if I can brag for a second....  Well, she does think I'm a dork, but she likes the Beach Boys too.  So confused right now.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on December 20, 2011, 06:35:32 PM
Got news for ya: Anybody who says they like the beach boys is by definition pretty deep on the 'dork' side.  Don't believe me?  Ask a hot chick.  

Oh yeah. Anybody who thinks otherwise is delusional.

Not that there's anything wrong with that, dorks still get laid sometimes just not as often.  ;)
What is this 'laid' you speak of? Is it a never-before-heard Beach Boys out-take from KTSA??

Duh, he's obviously talking about "Lei'd in Hawaii" and made a typo  :afro


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: drbeachboy on December 20, 2011, 06:39:54 PM
At 54 years old, I couldn't give a flyin' fu*k if people think I'm a dork or the hippest guy on the planet. I like what I like and other people's opinions of it don't mean squat. Most people get past that kind of stuff once they are out of their teens.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: b00ts on December 20, 2011, 06:41:02 PM
If that's how it is, I'm glad I'm not a fan. The Beach Boys are the best band I've ever heard, sure. But they are also the worst, by a considerable margin. Guess I'm not a fan, huh.
Guess not.

I suppose the alternative is thinking SIP is valuable only because it's by The Beach Boys. If that ever happens to me, my best friend has instructions to chuck me under a 172 bus.
Yes, if you are a fanatic, otherwise no. Honestly, I originally came on these boards to share my love of the band and the music. When I would actually meet fans one on one, most of them shared the same love.  When I attended the conventions, same thing. Here, it is whole different thing. All the fussing, fighting, the hating, it is not what I expected from other FANS. Maybe it is just me and how I define being a FAN. I really do not want to get in a pissing contest about this, but being a part of this forum, as well as Hoffman's has really been an eye opener. I honestly did not expect to read as much hate (if that is the right word), as there is love for the band and the music. I feel a bit disillusioned.
I think what it is, is that passions run deep. You sometimes have very nerdy (for want of a better word) obsessive fans, which correlates with higher intelligence, which sometimes correlates with personality defects. Add the anonymity of communicating this way, and there you go.

I have noticed an increase in negativity around here since The Smile Sessions release. The thread about getting Blondie and Ricky back in the band shocked me because I would never have imagined that people who are Beach Boys fans, and who like Blondie and Ricky, would be against it. It is a civil thread and people can disagree politely (not that I always do), but generally, there is a lot of knee-jerk naysaying around here. That's the nature of obsessive fans.

The Beach Boys have a catalogue that is larger than most groups. They had a changing lineup and changes of leadership multiple times throughout their history.
They also had salaciously scandalous personal lives, bitter feuds, and wildly varying levels of quality, even within their own albums. The boys have had many aborted albums, solo projects, et. al. and lots of ephemera that was left off the albums, including outtakes, alternate versions, and demos.

They have been a live act since the 1960s, and they have two polar opposites as their de facto frontmen: Brian Wilson is an immensely talented songwriter and producer, he's pretty shy and not the stablest person mentally. Mike is the quintessential outgoing, hard-working frontman for the live group, he has been consistently delivering since the 60s, he is happy to be the focal point of the group, and he would never be accused of being a sensitive soul.

All this to say, The Beach Boys have a perfect combination of factors to make for naysaying, infighting, and general negativity and shittiness among the fan base. There has been a noticeable upswing in this negativity around here since The Smile Sessions and now the reunion announcement; perhaps people stick together more when times are tough.

However, The Beach Boys also have a perfect combination of factors conducive to bright, articulate individuals dedicating a lot of time to posting on this board. Andrew G. Doe alone is an infinitely useful fountain of knowledge for The Beach Boys, and he seems like a pretty good guy. There's scores more where that came from, and lots of great fans on here. There is always something new to discover with The Beach Boys, and there is no in-depth Beach Boys community like Smileysmile.net.

So in the end, you have the awesomeness of the reunion, the scholarly experts who post here, all the cool-as-sh*t fans with interesting insights, the moderators, and of course the insanely beautiful music. Put all of that up against the few douche-bags and the admittedly larger number of negative nancys, and I think smileysmile.net comes out on top.

On the topic of "Summer in Paradise," I am not a fan of the album, but one of the great things about The Beach Boys is that there's something for everyone... and on the topic of the reunion, it's going to be fucking great.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: drbeachboy on December 20, 2011, 06:47:11 PM
Well said, b00ts! I think you nailed it, perfectly.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SMiLE Brian on December 20, 2011, 06:50:38 PM
The reunion is going to be awesome because it is going to help make up for the subpar music made from 1980-1995 in my opinion. I bought all the albums except SIP, so i have listened to make a decision


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Shady on December 20, 2011, 07:33:37 PM
I'm guessing the "worldwide" part of the tour equates to something like ....

Germany - Berlin, Munich, Frankfurt

2 confirmed German dates so far:

Aug. 3, Berlin, o2 World
Aug. 4, Stuttgart, Hanns-Martin-Schleyer-Halle

wow, dates already..

Shouldn't be too long now before the rest of Europe is announced


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on December 20, 2011, 08:04:56 PM
Wait a second. I'm not denying the brilliance of the "Sunflower" & "Surf's Up" albums, or that "Holland" has some fine vocals. The uneven(and sometimes bad) stuff comes after the group's 3 year hiatus from releasing studio material(reportedly because Reprise Records wouldn't accept recordings with no Brian Wilson involvement). Brian's voice starts to show damage from substance abuse, the touring members increasingly become an oldies band(particularly after the unexpected success of Capitol's compilations of 1962-65 material), and the group starts recording some particularly bad cover versions(especially the cover versions that didn't get released). With Brian only occasionally participating, the production craftsmanship suffers when he's not there.
                             I'm not saying that there aren't occasional good tracks on the post-1974 albums, but it is obvious that the group's heyday was on the recordings made between 1962 & 1972.

But Phil, so you are saying you wouldn't be interested in outtakes from Sunflower, Surf's Up, Carl & The Passions "So Tough", or Holland? Or even some material from the 1974 Caribou sessions?  The 1974 "California Feelin'"? Or possibly material Brian worked on randomly in the "fallow" years, like the re-recording of "In the Back of My Mind"? That all sounds VERY interesting to me. And guess what, even though they did end up having some embarrassing material after 1976, they also had a lot of good, interesting stuff, especially from Brian and Dennis, so I think there is quite a lot that they should still release.

Yes, I WOULD be interested in outtakes from "Sunflower", "Surf's Up" & "Holland". But outtakes from "15 Big Ones"? I'll pass.

REAL fans want them all.  It's all part of the fascination and intrigue.  An evolutionary scientist wouldn't skip the Paleozoic Era.

That's complete bullsh*t. A REAL fan would have the balls to like and dislike whatever part of the band's catalog they so choose.

I guess I'm not a REAL fan since I think most of the stuff released post-Love You is garbage and could care less about songs that weren't good enough to be on sub-par albums.
Fan, it is short for fanatic. Please look it up, because you do not fit the description. You like some of their music, but by definition you are not a fan-atic. Just being REAL. ;)

Bingo!  But I think I shouldn't have used the word fan.  Many fans go see the BBs in concert and don't know there's only one original guy in the band.

Most people on this board are fanatics. Yes, SIP sucks as does a lot of the after 80's stuff.  But even stack-o-tracks wants at-least to hear it, and then decide it sucks.
My point was real fans/fanatics 'have the balls' to want to hear the 15 BO out takes and decide for themselves.

stack-o-tracks - aren't you the least bit curious on hearing unreleased post 1980's stuff?  Granted, most of it will be crap but that's the fun of it.
"Don't Fight the Sea" was unreleased and now we know it's a pretty damm good song (by Al standards).



Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: b00ts on December 20, 2011, 08:22:33 PM
Wait a second. I'm not denying the brilliance of the "Sunflower" & "Surf's Up" albums, or that "Holland" has some fine vocals. The uneven(and sometimes bad) stuff comes after the group's 3 year hiatus from releasing studio material(reportedly because Reprise Records wouldn't accept recordings with no Brian Wilson involvement). Brian's voice starts to show damage from substance abuse, the touring members increasingly become an oldies band(particularly after the unexpected success of Capitol's compilations of 1962-65 material), and the group starts recording some particularly bad cover versions(especially the cover versions that didn't get released). With Brian only occasionally participating, the production craftsmanship suffers when he's not there.
                             I'm not saying that there aren't occasional good tracks on the post-1974 albums, but it is obvious that the group's heyday was on the recordings made between 1962 & 1972.

But Phil, so you are saying you wouldn't be interested in outtakes from Sunflower, Surf's Up, Carl & The Passions "So Tough", or Holland? Or even some material from the 1974 Caribou sessions?  The 1974 "California Feelin'"? Or possibly material Brian worked on randomly in the "fallow" years, like the re-recording of "In the Back of My Mind"? That all sounds VERY interesting to me. And guess what, even though they did end up having some embarrassing material after 1976, they also had a lot of good, interesting stuff, especially from Brian and Dennis, so I think there is quite a lot that they should still release.

Yes, I WOULD be interested in outtakes from "Sunflower", "Surf's Up" & "Holland". But outtakes from "15 Big Ones"? I'll pass.

REAL fans want them all.  It's all part of the fascination and intrigue.  An evolutionary scientist wouldn't skip the Paleozoic Era.

That's complete bullsh*t. A REAL fan would have the balls to like and dislike whatever part of the band's catalog they so choose.

I guess I'm not a REAL fan since I think most of the stuff released post-Love You is garbage and could care less about songs that weren't good enough to be on sub-par albums.
Fan, it is short for fanatic. Please look it up, because you do not fit the description. You like some of their music, but by definition you are not a fan-atic. Just being REAL. ;)

Bingo!  But I think I shouldn't have used the word fan.  Many fans go see the BBs in concert and don't know there's only one original guy in the band.

Most people on this board are fanatics. Yes, SIP sucks as does a lot of the after 80's stuff.  But even stack-o-tracks wants at-least to hear it, and then decide it sucks.
My point was real fans/fanatics 'have the balls' to want to hear the 15 BO out takes and decide for themselves.

stack-o-tracks - aren't you the least bit curious on hearing unreleased post 1980's stuff?  Granted, most of it will be crap but that's the fun of it.
"Don't Fight the Sea" was unreleased and now we know it's a pretty damm good song (by Al standards).


Of course, one of the defning characteristics of the post-1970 Beach Boys is their inability to separate the wheat from the chaff. This means there could be some mighty fine material out there.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on December 20, 2011, 08:34:21 PM
Wait a second. I'm not denying the brilliance of the "Sunflower" & "Surf's Up" albums, or that "Holland" has some fine vocals. The uneven(and sometimes bad) stuff comes after the group's 3 year hiatus from releasing studio material(reportedly because Reprise Records wouldn't accept recordings with no Brian Wilson involvement). Brian's voice starts to show damage from substance abuse, the touring members increasingly become an oldies band(particularly after the unexpected success of Capitol's compilations of 1962-65 material), and the group starts recording some particularly bad cover versions(especially the cover versions that didn't get released). With Brian only occasionally participating, the production craftsmanship suffers when he's not there.
                             I'm not saying that there aren't occasional good tracks on the post-1974 albums, but it is obvious that the group's heyday was on the recordings made between 1962 & 1972.

But Phil, so you are saying you wouldn't be interested in outtakes from Sunflower, Surf's Up, Carl & The Passions "So Tough", or Holland? Or even some material from the 1974 Caribou sessions?  The 1974 "California Feelin'"? Or possibly material Brian worked on randomly in the "fallow" years, like the re-recording of "In the Back of My Mind"? That all sounds VERY interesting to me. And guess what, even though they did end up having some embarrassing material after 1976, they also had a lot of good, interesting stuff, especially from Brian and Dennis, so I think there is quite a lot that they should still release.

Yes, I WOULD be interested in outtakes from "Sunflower", "Surf's Up" & "Holland". But outtakes from "15 Big Ones"? I'll pass.

REAL fans want them all.  It's all part of the fascination and intrigue.  An evolutionary scientist wouldn't skip the Paleozoic Era.

That's complete bullsh*t. A REAL fan would have the balls to like and dislike whatever part of the band's catalog they so choose.

I guess I'm not a REAL fan since I think most of the stuff released post-Love You is garbage and could care less about songs that weren't good enough to be on sub-par albums.
Fan, it is short for fanatic. Please look it up, because you do not fit the description. You like some of their music, but by definition you are not a fan-atic. Just being REAL. ;)

Bingo!  But I think I shouldn't have used the word fan.  Many fans go see the BBs in concert and don't know there's only one original guy in the band.

Most people on this board are fanatics. Yes, SIP sucks as does a lot of the after 80's stuff.  But even stack-o-tracks wants at-least to hear it, and then decide it sucks.
My point was real fans/fanatics 'have the balls' to want to hear the 15 BO out takes and decide for themselves.

stack-o-tracks - aren't you the least bit curious on hearing unreleased post 1980's stuff?  Granted, most of it will be crap but that's the fun of it.
"Don't Fight the Sea" was unreleased and now we know it's a pretty damm good song (by Al standards).


Of course, one of the defning characteristics of the post-1970 Beach Boys is their inability to separate the wheat from the chaff. This means there could be some mighty fine material out there.

Definitely!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: stack-o-tracks on December 20, 2011, 09:39:25 PM
Wait a second. I'm not denying the brilliance of the "Sunflower" & "Surf's Up" albums, or that "Holland" has some fine vocals. The uneven(and sometimes bad) stuff comes after the group's 3 year hiatus from releasing studio material(reportedly because Reprise Records wouldn't accept recordings with no Brian Wilson involvement). Brian's voice starts to show damage from substance abuse, the touring members increasingly become an oldies band(particularly after the unexpected success of Capitol's compilations of 1962-65 material), and the group starts recording some particularly bad cover versions(especially the cover versions that didn't get released). With Brian only occasionally participating, the production craftsmanship suffers when he's not there.
                             I'm not saying that there aren't occasional good tracks on the post-1974 albums, but it is obvious that the group's heyday was on the recordings made between 1962 & 1972.

But Phil, so you are saying you wouldn't be interested in outtakes from Sunflower, Surf's Up, Carl & The Passions "So Tough", or Holland? Or even some material from the 1974 Caribou sessions?  The 1974 "California Feelin'"? Or possibly material Brian worked on randomly in the "fallow" years, like the re-recording of "In the Back of My Mind"? That all sounds VERY interesting to me. And guess what, even though they did end up having some embarrassing material after 1976, they also had a lot of good, interesting stuff, especially from Brian and Dennis, so I think there is quite a lot that they should still release.

Yes, I WOULD be interested in outtakes from "Sunflower", "Surf's Up" & "Holland". But outtakes from "15 Big Ones"? I'll pass.

REAL fans want them all.  It's all part of the fascination and intrigue.  An evolutionary scientist wouldn't skip the Paleozoic Era.

That's complete bullsh*t. A REAL fan would have the balls to like and dislike whatever part of the band's catalog they so choose.

I guess I'm not a REAL fan since I think most of the stuff released post-Love You is garbage and could care less about songs that weren't good enough to be on sub-par albums.
Fan, it is short for fanatic. Please look it up, because you do not fit the description. You like some of their music, but by definition you are not a fan-atic. Just being REAL. ;)

Bingo!  But I think I shouldn't have used the word fan.  Many fans go see the BBs in concert and don't know there's only one original guy in the band.

Most people on this board are fanatics. Yes, SIP sucks as does a lot of the after 80's stuff.  But even stack-o-tracks wants at-least to hear it, and then decide it sucks.
My point was real fans/fanatics 'have the balls' to want to hear the 15 BO out takes and decide for themselves.

stack-o-tracks - aren't you the least bit curious on hearing unreleased post 1980's stuff?  Granted, most of it will be crap but that's the fun of it.
"Don't Fight the Sea" was unreleased and now we know it's a pretty damm good song (by Al standards).



Of course I will give a listen to everything I can but. I find a lot of the stuff on the second "Get The Boot" boot to be mediocre to flat out bad.

The Beach Boys definitely have a good mix of songs that work and songs that don't.

Not a huge fan of Don't Fight The Sea but I quite liked the b-side.  ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: drbeachboy on December 21, 2011, 04:10:37 AM
That is kind of the point when listening to boots; not everything is gonna be very good. That is why it wasn't released proper in the first place.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: hypehat on December 21, 2011, 08:59:06 AM
If that's how it is, I'm glad I'm not a fan. The Beach Boys are the best band I've ever heard, sure. But they are also the worst, by a considerable margin. Guess I'm not a fan, huh.
Guess not.

I suppose the alternative is thinking SIP is valuable only because it's by The Beach Boys. If that ever happens to me, my best friend has instructions to chuck me under a 172 bus.
Yes, if you are a fanatic, otherwise no. Honestly, I originally came on these boards to share my love of the band and the music. When I would actually meet fans one on one, most of them shared the same love.  When I attended the conventions, same thing. Here, it is whole different thing. All the fussing, fighting, the hating, it is not what I expected from other FANS. Maybe it is just me and how I define being a FAN. I really do not want to get in a pissing contest about this, but being a part of this forum, as well as Hoffman's has really been an eye opener. I honestly did not expect to read as much hate (if that is the right word), as there is love for the band and the music. I feel a bit disillusioned.


Well, I may be a pretty big 'fan' of the Beach Boys, but I'm not stupid and don't feel obliged to listen to terrible music they've done just because they are also responsible for my favourite records ever. I love The Beach Boys, of course I do, but I'm not blind to their failures as musicians.

I'm really not trying to contribute to any negative vibe on this board, but I am quitting smoking over christmas so i can make no promises  :angry


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SMiLE Brian on December 21, 2011, 09:03:23 AM
If that's how it is, I'm glad I'm not a fan. The Beach Boys are the best band I've ever heard, sure. But they are also the worst, by a considerable margin. Guess I'm not a fan, huh.
Guess not.

I suppose the alternative is thinking SIP is valuable only because it's by The Beach Boys. If that ever happens to me, my best friend has instructions to chuck me under a 172 bus.
Yes, if you are a fanatic, otherwise no. Honestly, I originally came on these boards to share my love of the band and the music. When I would actually meet fans one on one, most of them shared the same love.  When I attended the conventions, same thing. Here, it is whole different thing. All the fussing, fighting, the hating, it is not what I expected from other FANS. Maybe it is just me and how I define being a FAN. I really do not want to get in a pissing contest about this, but being a part of this forum, as well as Hoffman's has really been an eye opener. I honestly did not expect to read as much hate (if that is the right word), as there is love for the band and the music. I feel a bit disillusioned.


Well, I may be a pretty big 'fan' of the Beach Boys, but I'm not stupid and don't feel obliged to listen to terrible music they've done just because they are also responsible for my favourite records ever. I love The Beach Boys, of course I do, but I'm not blind to their failures as musicians.

I'm really not trying to contribute to any negative vibe on this board, but I am quitting smoking over christmas so i can make no promises  :angry
I'm not trying to be negative either, I just bought stuff like KTSA and can't listen to it at all because its the band at its worst. Good luck and godspeed Hypehat with breaking the habit.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Rocker on December 21, 2011, 09:12:05 AM
If that's how it is, I'm glad I'm not a fan. The Beach Boys are the best band I've ever heard, sure. But they are also the worst, by a considerable margin. Guess I'm not a fan, huh.
Guess not.

I suppose the alternative is thinking SIP is valuable only because it's by The Beach Boys. If that ever happens to me, my best friend has instructions to chuck me under a 172 bus.
Yes, if you are a fanatic, otherwise no. Honestly, I originally came on these boards to share my love of the band and the music. When I would actually meet fans one on one, most of them shared the same love.  When I attended the conventions, same thing. Here, it is whole different thing. All the fussing, fighting, the hating, it is not what I expected from other FANS. Maybe it is just me and how I define being a FAN. I really do not want to get in a pissing contest about this, but being a part of this forum, as well as Hoffman's has really been an eye opener. I honestly did not expect to read as much hate (if that is the right word), as there is love for the band and the music. I feel a bit disillusioned.


Well, I may be a pretty big 'fan' of the Beach Boys, but I'm not stupid and don't feel obliged to listen to terrible music they've done just because they are also responsible for my favourite records ever. I love The Beach Boys, of course I do, but I'm not blind to their failures as musicians.

I'm really not trying to contribute to any negative vibe on this board, but I am quitting smoking over christmas so i can make no promises  :angry


As the great Jerry Reed said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTVMuIPGZxQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTVMuIPGZxQ)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 21, 2011, 09:39:41 AM
I'm really not trying to contribute to any negative vibe on this board, but I am quitting smoking over christmas so i can make no promises  :angry

Best thing you'll ever do. Should the resolve weaken, calculate how much money you've been (literally) burning every year when you smoked. Then think what else you could have done with that. If that doesn't work, nothing will.  ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Heysaboda on December 21, 2011, 09:47:31 AM

So in the end, you have the awesomeness of the reunion, the scholarly experts who post here, all the cool-as-sh*t fans with interesting insights, the moderators, and of course the insanely beautiful music. Put all of that up against the few douche-bags and the admittedly larger number of negative nancys, and I think smileysmile.net comes out on top.

On the topic of "Summer in Paradise," I am not a fan of the album, but one of the great things about The Beach Boys is that there's something for everyone... and on the topic of the reunion, it's going to be f*cking great.

What b00ts said, times 1,000!

(Andrew, you're not the only one who knows how to highlight in yellow....!)



Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 21, 2011, 10:59:18 AM
Obviously, during the creation of "The Smile Sessions" box sets, the compilers & Capitol Records executives were walking on eggshells, during complex negotiations with the surviving Beach Boys, the two estates, various song publishers and artist Frank Holmes, and these negotiations were fraught with potential problems, and, at various junctures, could have easily collapsed.

But, in the compiling of a 2012 box set and greatest hits CD(and perhaps, deluxe expanded editions or remixed stereo versions of a few albums), the stakes are not so high this time, and the potential risks & pitfalls are not so extreme.

This leads to the question of whether an extreme wall of secrecy is really neccessary this time.

My viewpoint, this time, is that I'm delighted if these CD's are released, but if some of the projects don't materialize, I'm not gonna be freaked out or upset.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: GoodToMyBaby on December 21, 2011, 11:14:48 AM
here we go again


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 21, 2011, 11:18:18 AM
here we go again

Here we (hopefully don't) go again. It's up to Capitol Records and The Beach Boys.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: tansen on December 21, 2011, 11:22:38 AM
Awesome. Let's leave it at that, then :D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: b00ts on December 21, 2011, 12:03:27 PM
Obviously, during the creation of "The Smile Sessions" box sets, the compilers & Capitol Records executives were walking on eggshells, during complex negotiations with the surviving Beach Boys, the two estates, various song publishers and artist Frank Holmes, and these negotiations were fraught with potential problems, and, at various junctures, could have easily collapsed.

But, in the compiling of a 2012 box set and greatest hits CD(and perhaps, deluxe expanded editions or remixed stereo versions of a few albums), the stakes are not so high this time, and the potential risks & pitfalls are not so extreme.

This leads to the question of whether an extreme wall of secrecy is really neccessary this time.

My viewpoint, this time, is that I'm delighted if these CD's are released, but if some of the projects don't materialize, I'm not gonna be freaked out or upset.
Phil, Phil, Phil, Phil, Phil... If ever there was a 'sure thing' in the world of The Beach Boys, the box set and reissues are a 'sure thing.' There is a lot of money to be made, and as you said yourself, there is less 'walking on eggshells' now with the reunion and all.

Just sit back and enjoy the ride, my friend.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 21, 2011, 12:06:56 PM
Obviously, during the creation of "The Smile Sessions" box sets, the compilers & Capitol Records executives were walking on eggshells, during complex negotiations with the surviving Beach Boys, the two estates, various song publishers and artist Frank Holmes, and these negotiations were fraught with potential problems, and, at various junctures, could have easily collapsed.

You were party to those negotiations, I take it ? I mean, to make such an unequivocal statement, you had to be. But wait... if this is so, then why were you complaining so vocally that no-one was saying anything ? Phil, I call you for talking complete and utter bullshit - as the summer unrolled it because patently obvious that you didn't have the first idea regarding what was happening with the project (example: you were all telling us it was in trouble, when the 'trouble' was the set being expanded from three discs to five: I'll have me some more of that kind of trouble, please). You have no idea what those negotiations entailed, when they started, when they were completed and any problems therein. And if you say anything to the contrary, I'll call you the liar you'd be.

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This leads to the question of whether an extreme wall of secrecy is really neccessary this time.

1. the 'wall of secrecy' was entirely successful in keeping speculation, if not exactly rampant, then high.
2. it had the unexpected bonus of pissing you off, which is fine by all of us here.

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My viewpoint, this time, is that I'm delighted if these CD's are released, but if some of the projects don't materialize, I'm not gonna be freaked out or upset.

Again, complete bullshit - if even one of the announced projects doesn't materialise, you'll bitch like like a Honey Badger with PMT. Because that's what you do. You're setting yourself up for another round of being made to look like a complete fool. Best quit while you're still breaking even. i might be many things you don't like, but one thing I'm not and that's a liar of CK proportions. "Obviously..." nothing - you don't know anything. Worse, you don't know you don't know anything.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 21, 2011, 12:47:41 PM
I won't be complaining if one(or more) of these projects don't materialize. Having those stereo remixes would be very nice indeed, but as for the music itself, the majority of the music that the group recorded in the studio is now(officially or unofficially) in our hands. The most significant item that most of us were seeking was an official release of "Smile", and we've now got it. Mr.Doe obviously feels that secrecy surrounding the 2012 projects is justified.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: 18thofMay on December 21, 2011, 12:51:17 PM
Obviously, during the creation of "The Smile Sessions" box sets, the compilers & Capitol Records executives were walking on eggshells, during complex negotiations with the surviving Beach Boys, the two estates, various song publishers and artist Frank Holmes, and these negotiations were fraught with potential problems, and, at various junctures, could have easily collapsed.

But, in the compiling of a 2012 box set and greatest hits CD(and perhaps, deluxe expanded editions or remixed stereo versions of a few albums), the stakes are not so high this time, and the potential risks & pitfalls are not so extreme.

This leads to the question of whether an extreme wall of secrecy is really neccessary this time.

My viewpoint, this time, is that I'm delighted if these CD's are released, but if some of the projects don't materialize, I'm not gonna be freaked out or upset.
It is probably just me , but this post smack of pompous self importnace and is clear attempt to rattle a few cages.Also a desperate attempt to gain attention once again.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 21, 2011, 01:11:32 PM
Mr.Doe obviously feels that secrecy surrounding the 2012 projects is justified.

That's about the first thing you've said connected with the BB this year that you've got right. Told you all along, that was the gameplan: keep it close, no leaks. And there weren't, and the critical response was overwhelmingly positive. In short, it worked. Only one person ever railed against it.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 21, 2011, 01:16:09 PM
Here's an analogy(even if some of you won't understand why I'm citing this as an example). Neil Young put his fans through more than a decade of teasing his fans(via interviews) about his first "Archives" box set, then more than 6 cancelled release dates(spread over 2 years) before finally permitting the box set to be released. You'll now notice that(unlike in the years leading up to "Archives Vol.1") that almost no one is clamoring for Vol.2 . It's not that his fans wouldn't welcome or buy such a release, but there's a general consensus that Young's fans are unwilling to go through 10 years of game-playing and teasing to extract Vol.2 from a reluctant Neil. His fans have been there, and been through that. Young's fans are happy enough that their tempermental star finally handed over Vol.1. And, as a Beach Boys fan, I'm delighted that they handed over "Smile".

I, and many other Beach Boys fans DO want more archival CD's....but, as for tense, anxiety-filled waiting(a situation worsened by a wall of secrecy), we have been there, and been through that before. This is why I'm not so obsessed and insistant that we get all of these proposed or rumored Beach Boys archival CD's. Do I(and many others) want these recordings? Yes. Do most people want to be tortured or put through an anxiety-filled bummer for these recordings? No.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 21, 2011, 01:20:38 PM
Mr.Doe obviously feels that secrecy surrounding the 2012 projects is justified.

That's about the first thing you've said connected with the BB this year that you've got right. Told you all along, that was the gameplan: keep it close, no leaks. And there weren't, and the critical response was overwhelmingly positive. In short, it worked. Only one person ever railed against it.

You don't think that there was any reason for the fans to worry during Capitol's 5 months of total silence concerning the "Smile" box set. But then again, you had access to inside information, none of which you were willing to share with the public, even though you could have de-fused a tense situation.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wirestone on December 21, 2011, 01:25:42 PM
Mr.Doe obviously feels that secrecy surrounding the 2012 projects is justified.

That's about the first thing you've said connected with the BB this year that you've got right. Told you all along, that was the gameplan: keep it close, no leaks. And there weren't, and the critical response was overwhelmingly positive. In short, it worked. Only one person ever railed against it.

You don't think that there was any reason for the fans to worry during Capitol's 5 months of total silence concerning the "Smile" box set. But then again, you had access to inside information, none of which you were willing to share the public, even though you could have de-fused a tense situation.

I think AGD did all he could, without revealing his sources, to suggest that the project was on track.

And given his track record at this point, I would trust him on this kind of thing. Just saying.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: The Shift on December 21, 2011, 01:28:19 PM
Here's an analogy(even if some of you won't understand why I'm citing this as an example). Neil Young put his fans through more than a decade of teasing his fans(via interviews) about his first "Archives" box set, then more than 6 cancelled release dates(spread over 2 years) before finally permitting the box set to be released. You'll now notice that(unlike in the years leading up to "Archives Vol.1") that almost no one is clamoring for Vol.2 . It's not that his fans wouldn't welcome or buy such a release, but there's a general consensus that Young's fans are unwilling to go through 10 years of game-playing and teasing to extract Vol.2 from a reluctant Neil. His fans have been there, and been through that. Young's fans are happy enough that their tempermental star finally handed over Vol.1. And, as a Beach Boys fan, I'm delighted that they handed over "Smile".

I, and many other Beach Boys fans DO want more archival CD's....but, as for tense, anxiety-filled waiting(a situation worsened by a wall of secrecy), we have been there, and been through that before. This is why I'm not so obsessed and insistant that we get all of these proposed or rumored Beach Boys archival CD's. Do I(and many others) want these recordings? Yes. Do most people want to be tortured or put through an anxiety-filled bummer for these recordings? No.

What a daft take you have on the world. I don't regard these waits as torture, just a prelim to the ecstasy. Call it the seduction.

As for Archives II , I think Neil's fans are probably still absorbing Archives I, and happy for a lull before II comes out - we need a little time to save up, especially those of us shelled out for Blu-ray players! ;)

Calm down and please quit assuming to speak on behalf of people you can't begin to align yourself with.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 21, 2011, 01:45:42 PM
But then again, you had access to inside information, none of which you were willing to share with the public, even though you could have de-fused a tense situation.

Which point proves you to be a complete idiot. Assuming I did have access to such 'inside information', had I shared it with the public as you demanded, any such access would have vanished so fast Usain Bolt would have applauded. There's a reason why people might speak to me and not you: I can keep a confidence. You've proven you cannot. More, you're shown that the concept of keeping confidential information to oneself, as requested, is totally alien to your nature. Your type is the last kind of person I'd share anything more than the time of day with.

Also, there was no 'tense situation', except in your own mind. You kin to Bill Tobleman, by any chance ? You seem to share the same powers of not only invention but also convincing yourselves that what you say is a fact.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on December 21, 2011, 02:36:16 PM
Beach Boys fans are by definition, intelligent people.

Give yourselves a big pat on the back!

I'm just off to bed with my high intelligence and personality disorder. (The one that involves trying to get laughs for attention and normally failing dismally)

That's mine

What's yours?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 21, 2011, 02:54:51 PM
I won't be surprised, that even in April(when the group plays the first show of the reunion tour), that Capitol will still divulge absolutely nothing about the archival projects.....but that they WILL release a greatest hits CD.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 21, 2011, 03:02:44 PM
I won't be surprised, that even in April(when the group plays the first show of the reunion tour), that Capitol will still divulge absolutely nothing about the archival projects.....but that they WILL release a greatest hits CD.

We know they will, 'cause it says so in the press release. I'm willing to bet it'll be a 50 track 2CD set.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Shady on December 21, 2011, 03:09:20 PM
It's nice to see AGD and Phil at war once more..

Like old times


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: hypehat on December 21, 2011, 03:10:53 PM
Yeah, like way back when, earlier this year  :lol


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Shady on December 21, 2011, 03:25:26 PM
Yeah, like way back when, earlier this year  :lol

 :lol

Seems like old times  ^-^


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: D409 on December 21, 2011, 03:28:03 PM
David Marks enters the room :

http://www.examiner.com/beach-boys-in-national/david-marks-is-ready-to-do-it-again


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Rocker on December 21, 2011, 03:34:27 PM
David Marks enters the room :

http://www.examiner.com/beach-boys-in-national/david-marks-is-ready-to-do-it-again

Thank you !

This sounds very good:

Afterward, Brian, Mike and I sang a little around the microphone, but we kept laughing so I’m not sure how good it turned out, but it was a lot of fun.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 21, 2011, 03:55:53 PM
It's nice to see AGD and Phil at war once more..

Like old times

I feel a bit like Luke Skywalker meeting up with Darth Vader....but without the light sabers.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Shady on December 21, 2011, 03:57:36 PM
It's nice to see AGD and Phil at war once more..

Like old times

I feel a bit like Luke Skywalker meeting up with Darth Vader....but without the light sabers.

Not light sabers, just Keyboards


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: b00ts on December 21, 2011, 04:07:00 PM
Beach Boys fans are by definition, intelligent people.

Give yourselves a big pat on the back!

I'm just off to bed with my high intelligence and personality disorder. (The one that involves trying to get laughs for attention and normally failing dismally)

That's mine

What's yours?
Mine is just that I'm a sociopath. I'm not intelligent, though, so that broad brush I was painting with doesn't colour me.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: b00ts on December 21, 2011, 04:08:29 PM
It's nice to see AGD and Phil at war once more..

Like old times

I feel a bit like Luke Skywalker meeting up with Darth Vader....but without the light sabers.
More like Courtney Love talking to Vanity Fair, without the fawning interviewer.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: stack-o-tracks on December 21, 2011, 04:18:51 PM
David Marks enters the room :

http://www.examiner.com/beach-boys-in-national/david-marks-is-ready-to-do-it-again

Quoting in case somebody missed it because they didn't want to read through the argutards.  ;)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 21, 2011, 04:39:08 PM
David Marks enters the room :

http://www.examiner.com/beach-boys-in-national/david-marks-is-ready-to-do-it-again

Quoting in case somebody missed it because they didn't want to read through the argutards.  ;)

"Argutards"? Is this a word that you've invented?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: stack-o-tracks on December 21, 2011, 05:04:26 PM
David Marks enters the room :

http://www.examiner.com/beach-boys-in-national/david-marks-is-ready-to-do-it-again

Quoting in case somebody missed it because they didn't want to read through the argutards.  ;)

"Argutards"? Is this a word that you've invented?

Surely you've heard the saying about arguing on the internet and the Special Olympics. I'm just a lazy bastard and combined the saying into a simple word.

I know, I know. It's appalling.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on December 21, 2011, 07:35:35 PM
David Marks enters the room :

http://www.examiner.com/beach-boys-in-national/david-marks-is-ready-to-do-it-again
Excellent interview!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Mike's Beard on December 21, 2011, 07:54:04 PM
Mr.Doe obviously feels that secrecy surrounding the 2012 projects is justified.

That's about the first thing you've said connected with the BB this year that you've got right. Told you all along, that was the gameplan: keep it close, no leaks. And there weren't, and the critical response was overwhelmingly positive. In short, it worked. Only one person ever railed against it.

You don't think that there was any reason for the fans to worry during Capitol's 5 months of total silence concerning the "Smile" box set. But then again, you had access to inside information, none of which you were willing to share with the public, even though you could have de-fused a tense situation.

Tense in your mind only Phil. Why do you seem to think that anytime the BB's announce a new project you must be privy to inside information every other minute? There's been no update on the reunion album for a couple of days now - I guess that now falls into the troubled project category, huh?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: vintagemusic on December 21, 2011, 08:42:52 PM
What the hell is Phil Cohen talking about? He is the one who kept saying there would
be no SMiLE box set or release, and he is blaming Andrew Doe for what exactly ?

For making people think it wouldn't come true because he kept certain information private?

I'd say the one who made me feel tense was you Phil, saying it was all a Kennedyesque stroke
tease and conspiracy, Mr Doe gave me good vibes by assuring everyone it was no joke, that it
was real, and thats whats happened.

As far as a wall of secrecy of 2012, we just saw footage of them recording a new song that they
allowed us to see, thats hardly secret

The big news is SMiLe came out, its great, its fantastic, and I opened mine early, (xmas) and oh my
God the packaging, the songs, the fidelity! WOW

the other big news is they are doing a new album and going on tour, the additional archival releases
whatever they end up being, Smile, the tour and the new album is the biggest stuff, the remaining archival
stuff we'll have to wait awhile and see, more will be revealed, I think its below the belt to slag off on
Andrew Doe, he helped tell us a lot of cool stuff, while you kept saying it was all a hoax.

Maybe Andrew Doe does know something about the archival releases he hasn't said, so what, take a chill
pill, kick off your shoes and watch the new DIA video its great and when you get tired of that play the SMiLE box

I only got the two disc, but I had no idea the two disc had a booklet and a button and what is that? is there a deluxe
two disc set? I cant believe this only cost twenty dollars oh my freakin God wow is all I can say, there must be a more
simple two disc set for 20-30 bucks this thing I have must cost more, its got a poster, and this artwork and a button
and oh my God

Phil Mr Doe has been on the money so far, so if you shut up and act nice maybe we'll get some info
Hell the guy writes books on this stuff and does liner notes for their albums, and your'e slagging the guy off, what the hell
is wrong with you

The Beach Boys have a ton of stuff in the can apparently, maybe Mr Doe will enlighten us, when you lighten up


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 22, 2011, 12:53:35 AM
What the hell is Phil Cohen talking about? He is the one who kept saying there would
be no SMiLE box set or release, and he is blaming Andrew Doe for what exactly ?

For making people think it wouldn't come true because he kept certain information private?

I'd say the one who made me feel tense was you Phil, saying it was all a Kennedyesque stroke
tease and conspiracy, Mr Doe gave me good vibes by assuring everyone it was no joke, that it
was real, and thats whats happened.

As far as a wall of secrecy of 2012, we just saw footage of them recording a new song that they
allowed us to see, thats hardly secret

The big news is SMiLe came out, its great, its fantastic, and I opened mine early, (xmas) and oh my
God the packaging, the songs, the fidelity! WOW

the other big news is they are doing a new album and going on tour, the additional archival releases
whatever they end up being, Smile, the tour and the new album is the biggest stuff, the remaining archival
stuff we'll have to wait awhile and see, more will be revealed, I think its below the belt to slag off on
Andrew Doe, he helped tell us a lot of cool stuff, while you kept saying it was all a hoax.

Maybe Andrew Doe does know something about the archival releases he hasn't said, so what, take a chill
pill, kick off your shoes and watch the new DIA video its great and when you get tired of that play the SMiLE box

I only got the two disc, but I had no idea the two disc had a booklet and a button and what is that? is there a deluxe
two disc set? I cant believe this only cost twenty dollars oh my freakin God wow is all I can say, there must be a more
simple two disc set for 20-30 bucks this thing I have must cost more, its got a poster, and this artwork and a button
and oh my God

Phil Mr Doe has been on the money so far, so if you shut up and act nice maybe we'll get some info
Hell the guy writes books on this stuff and does liner notes for their albums, and your'e slagging the guy off, what the hell
is wrong with you

The Beach Boys have a ton of stuff in the can apparently, maybe Mr Doe will enlighten us, when you lighten up

While there isn't any reason to worry that the reunion album & tour won't happen, if we get 5 to 6 months of total silence from Capitol & The Beach Boys concerning the CD box set and other archival projects, then there might be reason for fans to be concerned.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jonas on December 22, 2011, 01:05:12 AM
You're still talking about that sh*t, Phil? Disconnect man...seriously.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: seanmurd on December 22, 2011, 07:33:48 AM
While there isn't any reason to worry that the reunion album & tour won't happen, if we get 5 to 6 months of total silence from Capitol & The Beach Boys concerning the CD box set and other archival projects, then there might be reason for fans to be concerned.

Five to six months of total silence on the SMiLE project didn't mean there was cause for concern. Since the tour is launching in the first half of the year, and they probably want the album to coincide with it, I'd say those two things are a lock for the next six months. But the other projects -- the new box set and unspecified "archival projects" -- sound like they will take some time to prepare, and probably won't be released until the third quarter (earliest) and/or fourth quarter of 2012. So I disagree with you -- I think 5-6 months of total silence on these large vault projects CAN be expected, and that would NOT be reason for concern. They're going to want to highlight the tour and the album for the next few months, so I would be surprised if we heard ANYTHING else about the archival stuff until June or July (or even later).

Unlike most people here playing "dog pile on the rabbit" (Bugs Bunny reference), I think you've softened your tone in this recent spate of posts . You're not nearly as condescending and insulting as you were last summer, sneering at the "SMiLE dreamers" who wouldn't listen to your Chicken Little act -- and who all ended up being thoroughly vindicated. You're stubbornly sticking with your "accentuate the negative" outlook, and hey -- that's your right. I don't think anything you've posted in the last few days was worthy of the venom that came back at you. What I don't get is what YOU'RE getting out of this -- the sky didn't fall, as you insisted it would, and the wolf you cried about never showed up to terrorize the village. You've been discredited, and no one (proportionally speaking) wants to hear any more of it from you. Even if you're willing to sow your negative seed more politely (as you have, imo) ... why do it at all?

You prefaced several of your posts by promising not to be upset if things don't get released -- a good start, I thought -- so why go that extra step and remind us of the alleged "information blackout" that was a conspiracy only in your own imagination? I'm actually posting this NOT to continue the barrage of attacks on you -- I'm actually sick of the attacks too, and I'd love it if they STOPPED -- I just don't understand why you continue to deliberately (seemingly) invite the abuse upon yourself. Is it that important to get your concerns "on the record" so you can say "I told you so" if it all falls apart?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on December 22, 2011, 08:19:47 AM
While there isn't any reason to worry that the reunion album & tour won't happen, if we get 5 to 6 months of total silence from Capitol & The Beach Boys concerning the CD box set and other archival projects, then there might be reason for fans to be concerned.

Five to six months of total silence on the SMiLE project didn't mean there was cause for concern. Since the tour is launching in the first half of the year, and they probably want the album to coincide with it, I'd say those two things are a lock for the next six months. But the other projects -- the new box set and unspecified "archival projects" -- sound like they will take some time to prepare, and probably won't be released until the third quarter (earliest) and/or fourth quarter of 2012. So I disagree with you -- I think 5-6 months of total silence on these large vault projects CAN be expected, and that would NOT be reason for concern. They're going to want to highlight the tour and the album for the next few months, so I would be surprised if we heard ANYTHING else about the archival stuff until June or July (or even later).

Unlike most people here playing "dog pile on the rabbit" (Bugs Bunny reference), I think you've softened your tone in this recent spate of posts . You're not nearly as condescending and insulting as you were last summer, sneering at the "SMiLE dreamers" who wouldn't listen to your Chicken Little act -- and who all ended up being thoroughly vindicated. You're stubbornly sticking with your "accentuate the negative" outlook, and hey -- that's your right. I don't think anything you've posted in the last few days was worthy of the venom that came back at you. What I don't get is what YOU'RE getting out of this -- the sky didn't fall, as you insisted it would, and the wolf you cried about never showed up to terrorize the village. You've been discredited, and no one (proportionally speaking) wants to hear any more of it from you. Even if you're willing to sow your negative seed more politely (as you have, imo) ... why do it at all?

You prefaced several of your posts by promising not to be upset if things don't get released -- a good start, I thought -- so why go that extra step and remind us of the alleged "information blackout" that was a conspiracy only in your own imagination? I'm actually posting this NOT to continue the barrage of attacks on you -- I'm actually sick of the attacks too, and I'd love it if they STOPPED -- I just don't understand why you continue to deliberately (seemingly) invite the abuse upon yourself. Is it that important to get your concerns "on the record" so you can say "I told you so" if it all falls apart?

Absolutely. I always find these attacks on you very unsavoury, but I'm beginning to suspect you actually enjoy the reaction you get. You seem to actively seek it. Personally I just want to be reading positive things about this fantastic turn of events. I'm sure you find the reunion as welcome as any BB fan. Let's hear about that

Sadly though, it may be that however positive your posts were to become, the negative reactions to you would continue, especially from the more sycophantic elements on this board.



Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: vintagemusic on December 22, 2011, 08:24:07 AM
Frankly, I think the real story is, the Beach Boys have returned from being nearly
totally defunct to an unbelievable SMiLE release. The Most famous unreleased album
in history. Plus a brand new studio album and a tour! and more archival releases to come.

To say Phil Cohen is discredited is putting it mildly. But who would have thought SMile, and
a great release at that, and everything else.

Wilson had the most prolific period of his career since the sixties going, he must have released
nearly ten albums in the last ten years, so yes it's true Smile and a new Beach Boys album and
tour seemed extremely unlikely. But once it arrived it really did arrive, and we all have to adjust
our thinking to the facts and new reality.

This couldn't be better as a fan of the group SMile a new album and a tour, what else could anybody
hope for! Its a glorious time to like the Beach Boys. They are giving what other surviving classic bands
have refused or been unable to do, archival and new material on magnificent scale..


I don't know much about the Beach Boys unreleased material, the one thing I am sure of from observation
and reading, I would not expect anything archival while Smile and the new album are in progress, and I would
not expect archival releases from a period when Brian Wilson was not participating, while he is in the middle of
the reunion. Any albums featuring lots of non Wilson Beach Boy material, I would think that would come after
Wilson is long since finished recording and touring with the band. Unless the reunion is permanent, which I highly
doubt. I wonder if Wilson will retire after this flurry of activity, he will be what ? 73 by the time its all said and done.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Smilin Ed H on December 22, 2011, 11:04:46 AM
I could happily and comfortably come up with a double album of outtakes and alt takes from 69-74 and more if we extend it to 79, though the pickings are pretty lean beyond that.  Not everything would be a gem, but so what? On top of that, how about a good live set from the Blondie and Ricky days and from the 93 tour with the 'unplugged' set that Al wanted?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Rocker on December 22, 2011, 11:39:57 AM
On top of that, how about a good live set from the Blondie and Ricky days and from the 93 tour with the 'unplugged' set that Al wanted?


CHICAGO '65 !!!! Band on top of their early game. Brian with them. Please let me wonder live !!!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SMiLE Brian on December 22, 2011, 01:03:48 PM
On top of that, how about a good live set from the Blondie and Ricky days and from the 93 tour with the 'unplugged' set that Al wanted?


CHICAGO '65 !!!! Band on top of their early game. Brian with them. Please let me wonder live !!!
Wait, Brian did Please let me wonder live in his prime! :woot


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Rocker on December 22, 2011, 01:17:23 PM
On top of that, how about a good live set from the Blondie and Ricky days and from the 93 tour with the 'unplugged' set that Al wanted?


CHICAGO '65 !!!! Band on top of their early game. Brian with them. Please let me wonder live !!!
Wait, Brian did Please let me wonder live in his prime! :woot




http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,10080.msg179464.html#msg179464 (http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,10080.msg179464.html#msg179464)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 22, 2011, 02:34:22 PM
While there isn't any reason to worry that the reunion album & tour won't happen, if we get 5 to 6 months of total silence from Capitol & The Beach Boys concerning the CD box set and other archival projects, then there might be reason for fans to be concerned.

.. and if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a bicycle.

Phil. You're a moron. A complete fucking idiot. A waste of sperm. I will personally mobilize all my contacts, exert my considerable influence and see to it that no-one tells you a thing about the reunion reissues. Because you don't deserve it - you not a fan at all, you're border line psychopath. You worry about things that haven't happened yet. When you go to bed (assuming you do sleep) do you worry you might not wake up in the morning, or that one of your legs might vanish in the night ? Seriously man, you need help, and urgently. That or putting down, like a mad dog.  ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Heysaboda on December 22, 2011, 02:48:30 PM
Here's an analogy(even if some of you won't understand why I'm citing this as an example). Neil Young put his fans through more than a decade of teasing his fans(via interviews) about his first "Archives" box set, then more than 6 cancelled release dates(spread over 2 years) before finally permitting the box set to be released. You'll now notice that(unlike in the years leading up to "Archives Vol.1") that almost no one is clamoring for Vol.2 ........

Whoa Philly!
Head over to here: http://neilyoungnews.thrasherswheat.org/
which is basically the Neil fans' version of THIS board (much different of course).

There has been A LOT of "clamoring" for Archives 2 (AND for releases of albums such as "Time Fades Away") (sign the petition while you're there) but the clamoring is somewhat mitigated, somewhat I say, because Neil continues to give us NEW releases "Le Noise", archive releases "A Treasure" plus his outstanding live concerts.

Neil works on his own time -- he's an Artist in EVERY sense of the word.  No one can push him or rush him, but get out of his way when he's ready to deliver.  It's always worth the journey.



Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on December 22, 2011, 03:18:56 PM
While there isn't any reason to worry that the reunion album & tour won't happen, if we get 5 to 6 months of total silence from Capitol & The Beach Boys concerning the CD box set and other archival projects, then there might be reason for fans to be concerned.

.. and if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a bicycle.

Phil. You're a moron. A complete f*cking idiot. A waste of sperm. I will personally mobilize all my contacts, exert my considerable influence and see to it that no-one tells you a thing about the reunion reissues. Because you don't deserve it - you not a fan at all, you're border line psychopath. You worry about things that haven't happened yet. When you go to bed (assuming you do sleep) do you worry you might not wake up in the morning, or that one of your legs might vanish in the night ? Seriously man, you need help, and urgently. That or putting down, like a mad dog.  ;D

At the moment I'm nursing my sister through cancer (hopefully not terminal). I come on here for a bit of an escape, not to read bullsh*t like this. If you don't like his posts Andrew, just ignore them. Don't subject us to your nasty little rants. Though I don't agree with much Phil says, I find your replies to him offensive and unnecessary.

Life really is too short and precious for this sort of aggression.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: NHC on December 22, 2011, 03:25:19 PM
1 - permission to be exceedingly smug for about a week...

2 - will those already picking it apart kindly SHUT THE f*ck UP. Don't like the idea, fine, just go away and leave those of us who can to enjoy the prospect.

Thank you


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: tansen on December 22, 2011, 03:37:52 PM
Too much Andrew. Too much.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Shady on December 22, 2011, 03:56:14 PM
Hey guys, it's Christmas..ya know  :drunks


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: pixletwin on December 22, 2011, 04:00:39 PM
I agree (for what it's worth). Andrew's rebuttals are crossing the line into nasty and mean spirited territory and are far less pleasant to read than anything Phil has been writing.

Chill AGD.  :smokin


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SMiLE Brian on December 22, 2011, 04:03:35 PM
I'm siding with AGD in this dispute, but these arguments are getting very heated.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: stack-o-tracks on December 22, 2011, 04:05:50 PM
I think both members involved need to go outside for a while. Do some yard work OR go for a nice walk.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: 18thofMay on December 22, 2011, 04:12:04 PM
Phil will be happy he has achieved one of his objectives for the week. He has gained attention through no aquisition of knowledge, no achievement of his own!!.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: seanmurd on December 22, 2011, 04:33:54 PM
You guys are all attacking the Phil of six months ago, and not the Phil who has made several fairly bland and uncontroversial (for him) remarks. Enough already!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on December 22, 2011, 04:34:49 PM
I'm siding with AGD in this dispute, but these arguments are getting very heated.

It's not about sides or opinions. It's about abusive posts. I want to come on here and read about this wonderful news, not a bunch of mean spirited, offensive crap piled on someone for expressing an unpopular opinion. I don't agree with Phil, but I find it relatively easy to just skim over his posts.

What I find it hard to skim over is stuff like
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Phil. You're a moron. A complete f*cking idiot. A waste of sperm.

And 18thof May....
Phil will be happy he has achieved one of his objectives for the week. He has gained attention through no aquisition of knowledge, no achievement of his own!!.

You may well be right. The term "personality disorder" has been floating around this week. Maybe Phil has this need to seek attention by posting his negative points of view. Maybe he enjoys the reactions these posts evoke.

Another type of personality disorder is the one where you feel the need to be incredibly abusive and rude to anyone who disagrees with you.

One is relatively harmless, one is not

Anyway, quite frankly, I don't care. I just want to read about the reunion and forget my troubles. I'm not going to get wound up. I've got better things to do. Like going to bed.




Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: hypehat on December 22, 2011, 04:42:20 PM
Seriously AGD, damn. Calling him a 'waste of sperm' is a bit much, y'know?


IHA, I hope your sister pulls through  :)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SMiLE Brian on December 22, 2011, 04:48:30 PM
In my opinion, Phil is trolling AGD.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jim V. on December 22, 2011, 05:30:28 PM
I think Phil is either trolling or he is a severely emotionally disturbed. He never has anything good to say, ever. And that is a fact.

I think somebody needs to call this guy out, and AGD is the guy for it. I have no problem with differing points of view, but Phil really has went overboard with the doubting of all this stuff. It hasn't even been a week since, and he is doubting all these new releases. I mean, give it a break dude, seriously.

Yes, AGD may have been a little too mean, but lets face the facts, Phil is either an attention whore, or he is a total fake.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 22, 2011, 06:19:21 PM
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Yes, AGD may have been a little too mean, but lets face the facts, Phil is either an attention whore, or he is a total fake.

Or both.

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Phil. You're a moron. A complete f*cking idiot. A waste of sperm. I will personally mobilize all my contacts, exert my considerable influence and see to it that no-one tells you a thing about the reunion reissues. Because you don't deserve it - you not a fan at all, you're border line psychopath. You worry about things that haven't happened yet. When you go to bed (assuming you do sleep) do you worry you might not wake up in the morning, or that one of your legs might vanish in the night ? Seriously man, you need help, and urgently. That or putting down, like a mad dog.  Grin

Am I the only one who took Andrew's post to be somewhat tongue in cheek?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: seanmurd on December 22, 2011, 06:53:37 PM
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Yes, AGD may have been a little too mean, but lets face the facts, Phil is either an attention whore, or he is a total fake.

Or both.

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Phil. You're a moron. A complete f*cking idiot. A waste of sperm. I will personally mobilize all my contacts, exert my considerable influence and see to it that no-one tells you a thing about the reunion reissues. Because you don't deserve it - you not a fan at all, you're border line psychopath. You worry about things that haven't happened yet. When you go to bed (assuming you do sleep) do you worry you might not wake up in the morning, or that one of your legs might vanish in the night ? Seriously man, you need help, and urgently. That or putting down, like a mad dog.  Grin

Am I the only one who took Andrew's post to be somewhat tongue in cheek?

Nothing about it seemed tongue-in-cheek to me -- it had exactly the same tone as all of AGD's other recent responses to Phil's relatively innocuous (compared with his summertime rants) posts. You're a moderator, for crying out loud -- shouldn't you be at least URGING a higher standard of discourse, rather than excusing abusive posts?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: drbeachboy on December 22, 2011, 07:06:17 PM
Fair is fair, Sean. Phil's posts are an abuse to my sense of sight. Better that Andrew handle Phil than all of us doing what we did back in the Summer. Besides, Phil always seems to direct a lot of his posts towards Andrew not spilling the beans with new Beach Boys information. I'm with Andrew on this one.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 22, 2011, 07:10:45 PM
Other than "Smile", is there any other music(Beach Boys or other artists) worth going through this sort of B.S. to obtain it?(and, by the way, I'm not refering to the personal attacks against me). This isn't fun.

The experiences I've had on internet forums make me more certain than ever that I have made the correct decision in deciding never to participate in social networking sites. i have no desire to create an advertisement for myself on one of those sites. Experiences like the ones I had here make me quite wary of  further interactions with strangers on the internet.

My use of my computer has always been primarily for web surfing, internet shopping, word processing, watching YouTube videos,  e-mail,  printing photos, burning CD-R's etc.  All of the other things that I could do with a computer are largely unneccessary, and potentially unpleasant or an invasion of privacy. There's just too much viciousness out there.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Ron on December 22, 2011, 07:15:26 PM
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Yes, AGD may have been a little too mean, but lets face the facts, Phil is either an attention whore, or he is a total fake.

Or both.

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Phil. You're a moron. A complete f*cking idiot. A waste of sperm. I will personally mobilize all my contacts, exert my considerable influence and see to it that no-one tells you a thing about the reunion reissues. Because you don't deserve it - you not a fan at all, you're border line psychopath. You worry about things that haven't happened yet. When you go to bed (assuming you do sleep) do you worry you might not wake up in the morning, or that one of your legs might vanish in the night ? Seriously man, you need help, and urgently. That or putting down, like a mad dog.  Grin

Am I the only one who took Andrew's post to be somewhat tongue in cheek?

Nothing about it seemed tongue-in-cheek to me -- it had exactly the same tone as all of AGD's other recent responses to Phil's relatively innocuous (compared with his summertime rants) posts. You're a moderator, for crying out loud -- shouldn't you be at least URGING a higher standard of discourse, rather than excusing abusive posts?

I don't think it's tongue-in-cheek but I also don't particularly have a problem with him saying it.  Say what you will about AGD, and you can say plenty, but he does not mince words or hide what he feels.  I don't think he hates Phil, I think he's just SERIOUSLY annoyed by him. 

Also Andrew kind of has a point about the negativity thing.  Phil seems to be a pretty negative oh woe is me type of person. 


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: drbeachboy on December 22, 2011, 07:21:48 PM
Phil, you bring it on yourself. Why not change tactics? Like, speaking for yourself and not all Beach Boys fans. Not rip Andrew because he knows how to keep a confidence. Don't force your opinions as fact. I trust that you are a decent guy and it is just not coming across, here on the forum.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jim V. on December 22, 2011, 07:31:54 PM
Other than "Smile", is there any other music(Beach Boys or other artists) worth going through this sort of B.S. to obtain it?(and, by the way, I'm not refering to the personal attacks against me). This isn't fun.

The experiences I've had on internet forums make me more certain than ever that I have made the correct decision in deciding never to participate in social networking sites. i have no desire to create an advertisement for myself on one of those sites. Experiences like the ones I had here make me quite wary of  further interactions with strangers on the internet.

My use of my computer has always been primarily for web surfing, internet shopping, word processing, watching YouTube videos,  e-mail,  printing photos, burning CD-R's etc.  All of the other things that I could do with a computer are largely unneccessary, and potentially unpleasant or an invasion of privacy. There's just too much viciousness out there.

What B.S. Phil? I wish that it hadn't taken 44 years for The SMiLE Sessions to come out, but most of that time was because the creator of that material did not want it out. And for probably the last 8 months before it was released, it took time to make sure it was to Brian's (and other principals) satisfaction. So, honestly once we heard Brian okayed it, we got it pretty quickly, and gosh, how great it is.

I'd reason to say that within a year, we will have a new Beach Boys box set, an opportunity to see Brian, Mike, Al, Bruce, and David perform live together, a new studio album, and most likely the ability to listen to things like the 1974 version of "California Feelin" or "(Wouldn't It Be Nice) To Live Again" whenever we please. That sounds pretty freakin' awesome to me.

I don't think there has been a better time to be a Beach Boys fan since from 1965-1972.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 22, 2011, 07:37:54 PM
The main point that I was trying to make, is after the prolonged stressful trip that we were put through to get "The Smile Sessions"(particularly the worrisome 5 months of silence, when Capitol had originally stated that a tracklisting would be revealed "soon") is a similar wall of secrecy really neccessary this time, given that there is much less potential(in non-Smile archival material) for disagreement amongst The surviving Beach Boys? Andrew G.Doe thinks that a similar wall of secrecy is justified this time, and I say that it isn't justified. And I should note that the description of the archival projects is so utterly vague, that if some of them don't happen, we won't even know what we've missed out on.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: vintagemusic on December 22, 2011, 08:01:59 PM
There is no wall of secrecy for crying out loud.

They aren't gonna play up a future archival release, while SMiLe is
peaking on the charts and a new studio album and tour are on the way.
Chronology of events.

1 SMILE
2NEW ALBUM
3 TOUR

4 Additional releases of previously unreleased material after those other things
have run their course. Personally I am surprised they are considering it at all in
less than 18-24 months. Given the huge nature of what's already happening.

Why would they talk a lot about these archival releases now? Maybe they will dig for
more material as they did with SMiLE for a period of time. I have no idea what the material
will consist of from the vaults, but if they deliver SMILE the new studio album and the tour
there is no doubt in my mind they will make good and deliver on their promise for additional
archival releases.

There was no silence for five months, it just took them awhile to get everything ready, there weren't
many leaks but we had a general idea of what was going on, and wow did they deliver, have you seen
the packaging on this SMiLE set ? WOW and the sound! CLean!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: drbeachboy on December 22, 2011, 08:02:35 PM
You know Phil, up until the Internet age, I never knew exactly when new Beach Boys product was coming out, let alone what was going to be on it. So, when TSS was announced and info came out slowly, I didn't panic. I trusted what Andrew was telling us, plus I was no worse off than I had been for most of my record buying life. There was never panic or gnashing of teeth.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wirestone on December 22, 2011, 08:11:07 PM
True: There was a lengthy pause after the original Smile announcement (if you assumed, as many of us did, that the box would drop over the summer).

True: The pause was a little curious and concerning at the time.

True: During that time, the project was actually expanding and getting better, both in terms of amount of material included and the luxe packaging.

Takeaway: Delays are frustrating, but the most recent case shows that they served to make a better overall product.

Takeaway 2: Phil Cohen did not know what he was talking about. AGD did and repeatedly reassured us that all was well. AGD has been proven correct.

Is there anything else to talk about here?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 22, 2011, 08:54:38 PM
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Nothing about it seemed tongue-in-cheek to me -- it had exactly the same tone as all of AGD's other recent responses to Phil's relatively innocuous (compared with his summertime rants) posts. You're a moderator, for crying out loud -- shouldn't you be at least URGING a higher standard of discourse, rather than excusing abusive posts?

The bolded part...I've known Andrew for years; he wouldn't be bragging about having "considerable influence".

I think drbeachboy said it best, though.
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Phil, you bring it on yourself. Why not change tactics? Like, speaking for yourself and not all Beach Boys fans. Not rip Andrew because he knows how to keep a confidence. Don't force your opinions as fact. I trust that you are a decent guy and it is just not coming across, here on the forum.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 22, 2011, 08:57:05 PM
There is no wall of secrecy for crying out loud.

They aren't gonna play up a future archival release, while SMiLe is
peaking on the charts and a new studio album and tour are on the way.
Chronology of events.

1 SMILE
2NEW ALBUM
3 TOUR

4 Additional releases of previously unreleased material after those other things
have run their course. Personally I am surprised they are considering it at all in
less than 18-24 months. Given the huge nature of what's already happening.

Why would they talk a lot about these archival releases now? Maybe they will dig for
more material as they did with SMiLE for a period of time. I have no idea what the material
will consist of from the vaults, but if they deliver SMILE the new studio album and the tour
there is no doubt in my mind they will make good and deliver on their promise for additional
archival releases.

There was no silence for five months, it just took them awhile to get everything ready, there weren't
many leaks but we had a general idea of what was going on, and wow did they deliver, have you seen
the packaging on this SMiLE set ? WOW and the sound! CLean!

Agreed on all counts.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: alanjames on December 22, 2011, 09:14:26 PM
Please, we have to get back to the original topic: Beach Boys reunion album and tour, future releases, etc...
Let's ignore Phil Cohen, and he'll stop say his silly negative things.
This subject (reunion) is so special, we have so much things to discuss, and we're losing time giving so much attention to Phil.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 22, 2011, 09:49:35 PM
Please, we have to get back to the original topic: Beach Boys reunion album and tour, future releases, etc...
Let's ignore Phil Cohen, and he'll stop say his silly negative things.
This subject (reunion) is so special, we have so much things to discuss, and we're losing time giving so much attention to Phil.


How much more is there to say? At least with "Smile", we could discuss what we knew about the music, based on existing bootlegs. This time, we don't even know what era of Beach Boys music Mark Linett & Alan Boyd may be compiling.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: stack-o-tracks on December 22, 2011, 10:05:59 PM
Please, we have to get back to the original topic: Beach Boys reunion album and tour, future releases, etc...
Let's ignore Phil Cohen, and he'll stop say his silly negative things.
This subject (reunion) is so special, we have so much things to discuss, and we're losing time giving so much attention to Phil.


How much more is there to say? At least with "Smile", we could discuss what we knew about the music, based on existing bootlegs. This time, we don't even know what era of Beach Boys music Mark Linett & Alan Boyd may be compiling.

Who knows, maybe they're not compiling anything at all. Does seem a little quick to release another box after the expansive SMiLe release in 2011.  :hat


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: vintagemusic on December 22, 2011, 10:21:35 PM
As Gamblers would say, Brian Wilson is a hard guy to handicap, I mean at 65
he turns in That Lucky Old Sun, which in some ways was this brilliant piece son
of Smile or first cousin to Smile. I remember thinking and reading other people's
posts, "oh my God can you Imagine if the Beach Boys had sung the parts"

Then I hear DIA the remake.. and I think, This is more like the new album we
will hear next year, more straight ahead stuff nothing fancy. I like both styles.
I also think, these are sharp guys, they are all around 70 years of age, they realize
this is the last studio album of new material as a band. So naturally they want it
to be good.

I don't know who really composed and put That Lucky Old Sun together, if it was
Brian Wilson or the band or what. Or rather who did what to which degree.

I don't expect the Beach Boys to go there, to an esoteric place. I am hoping for
new songs put together as well as DIA, Soul Searchin, Forever She'll be my Surfer Girl.

if they can put together 10-12 new tracks as good as those I mentioned, with the beautiful
beach Boy voices I will be more than satisfied.    I think they will go for straight ahead sound
like what we heard with DIA. Because of their age, time constraints, a lack of desire to spend
that much time in the studio together.

I am absolutely enthralled with the idea of hearing this new album. Its like a gift from heaven
a new Beach Boys album wow!

Is Joe Thomas considered the producer on this new album? or one of the co producers?

Is this album going to be one of those deals, where every track was done in a different studio
with different people, players engineers,, points of view? Albums done in that fashion can work
but I think they are better off with one crew of people, one studio and one direction, for the sake
of a cohesive album. Given all the circumstances. I can't wait I am excited as hell. I think this could
be the best thing they have done since the early seventies. everything is gonna be distilled down
to these last dozen songs, their musical last hurrah in the studio.

I mean are  there many people here who did not say to themselves when they heard Lucky Old Sun,
wow this is pretty damn good, Imagine if Jardine and Love and Johnston were singing where Brian
sounds like a frog, I mean what might Midnight's another day have sounded like ?  Or Forever Surfer Girl
with the beach Boys blend. Wilson couldn't carry all of the lead vocals on every song, some of them just
sounded croaky.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Mikie on December 22, 2011, 10:55:43 PM
Am I the only one who took Andrew's post to be somewhat tongue in cheek?

Yes.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Runaways on December 22, 2011, 11:07:18 PM
i don't think phil ever says anything as offensive as most of the posts sent his way.  Some of the attacks are quite pathetic, and hilarious in how personal some people take them.  Yeah, Phil is kinda weird, and an eeyore.  but whatever.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: lance on December 22, 2011, 11:37:04 PM
Plus one.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: stack-o-tracks on December 22, 2011, 11:49:56 PM
i don't think phil ever says anything as offensive as most of the posts sent his way.  Some of the attacks are quite pathetic, and hilarious in how personal some people take them.  Yeah, Phil is kinda weird, and an eeyore.  but whatever.

The internet is serious business and anybody who tells you otherwise is a dirty liar.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 22, 2011, 11:54:37 PM
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Please, we have to get back to the original topic: Beach Boys reunion album and tour, future releases, etc...
Let's ignore Phil Cohen, and he'll stop say his silly negative things.
This subject (reunion) is so special, we have so much things to discuss, and we're losing time giving so much attention to Phil.

Works for me.

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At least with "Smile", we could discuss what we knew about the music, based on existing bootlegs. This time, we don't even know what era of Beach Boys music Mark Linett & Alan Boyd may be compiling.

To me, that is the exciting part. We're entering uncharted territory, and it's been years since we could say (type?) that. The success of the Smile set showed that there is a market for the non-fun in the sun type deal, and with Mike of all people saying that all types of BB fans need to be catered to, well...we really DON'T know. Maybe if it turns out to be yet another Golden Moldies type thing, we can throw a fit. Until then, though, we can hope for the best. I dunno...I got a really good feeling about this. The whole reunion/album/tour/potential compilations (coupled with the recent release of the Smile box) shows that the main focus seems to be cementing their legacy.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 23, 2011, 12:01:53 AM
Phil, here's a serious offer - you post here all your sources for the boots you've helped put out, including where some of the masters originated, and I'll reveal the BB/BW sources you assume I have. Fair exchange.

And yes, my previous post was on a par with the one where I threatened to firebomb his house. Except for being a fucking moron, because he is, as well as a troll and yes, as someone else pointed out, an attention whore. Best way to drive trolls up the wall ? Ignore them..


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 23, 2011, 12:25:07 AM
Please, we have to get back to the original topic: Beach Boys reunion album and tour, future releases, etc...
Let's ignore Phil Cohen, and he'll stop say his silly negative things.
This subject (reunion) is so special, we have so much things to discuss, and we're losing time giving so much attention to Phil.


How much more is there to say? At least with "Smile", we could discuss what we knew about the music, based on existing bootlegs. This time, we don't even know what era of Beach Boys music Mark Linett & Alan Boyd may be compiling.

Who knows, maybe they're not compiling anything at all. Does seem a little quick to release another box after the expansive SMiLe release in 2011.  :hat

Press release is pretty specific - GH collection, career-spanning box set and other reissues, the possible nature of some of which has already been alluded to.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 23, 2011, 01:20:34 AM
Here's the thing...how different will this box set be from the 1993 collection? Also, I wonder how Smile will be handled as we JUST got the box. There's gotta be some kind of thing to hook in the diehards.

As far as reissues go, well...it's needed.  I haven't seen any non-Pet Sounds non-compilation CDs in the BB section at Best Buy or Wal-mart in years (not counting Smile...although that is a compilation of sorts :lol). Hopefully the liner notes will be better, because most of the ones for the 70s twofers were awful.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 23, 2011, 01:48:14 AM
Here's the thing...how different will this box set be from the 1993 collection?

Well, hopefully "LHRW" will be included this time... odd non-album singles, maybe some solo material, and SC/SIP tracks... archive material, natch (if the sole unreleased item is "(WIBNT)LA", I'm good to go) and probably "DIA '11".

And a rewritten booklet with better track info as well.

As for the GH collection, I'm still thinking it'll be 50 tracks, so given the obvious inclusions (Top 40) and starting with "Surfin'", it'd be fun to speculate on the track listing. Actually, even without the 2 Xmas chart hits, and including charting B sides, there are 53 titles up for inclusion 1961-1989.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 23, 2011, 01:50:03 AM
I would love if the reissues are the single album paired with outtakes. Maybe some unbooted material would finally surface!


Look at the sessions section of Andrew's website.  From the info gathered there, these are theoretically possible bonus tracks, although I wouldn't be surprised if some of the songs no longer exist for some reason. Some of these we've heard, many we haven't.

Surf's Up- Wouldn't it be Nice to Live Again; Won't You Tell Me

So Tough-  Beatrice From Baltimore ( don't know if the original version of Mess of Help exists but am interested in the lyrics); Out in the Country; Ten Years Harmony

Holland- We Got Love

At this point things get muddled. The infamous 1974 material doesn't have an obvious slot. Tack that on to Holland, or to 15 BO? Sadly, my bet is neither happens, robbing us of ever hearing the 1974 CF -_-

15 Big Ones- Angel Come Home (yup, although I think it was just the backing track and a rough vocal); Sea Cruise; Mony Mony; Clangin'; 10,000 Years Ago; Lisa

Love You- the Adult Child material; You've Lost that Lovin' Feelin

MIU- Mike, Come Back To LA; Burlesque; How's About A Little Bit

LA- Calendar Girl; Looking Down the Coast; Drip Drop (yeah right :lol ); California Feeling (oh God no, not this version); Santa Ana Winds; I'm Begging You Please (umm....no); It's a Beautiful Day

Now, I don't believe any of these actually WILL be on there, but it's fun to dream ;)




Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: seanmurd on December 23, 2011, 01:54:56 AM
Here's the thing...how different will this box set be from the 1993 collection?

Well, hopefully "LHRW" will be included this time... odd non-album singles, maybe some solo material, and SC/SIP tracks... archive material, natch (if the sole unreleased item is "(WIBNT)LA", I'm good to go) and probably "DIA '11".

And a rewritten booklet with better track info as well.

I hope they fix the speed on "It's Over Now," if that track is included.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Alan Smith on December 23, 2011, 02:01:22 AM
All of the above would be fu*kin  brilliiant and I want it all, but will we just get another slug of greatest hits centered around Rhonda and Baa-baa-Barbara freakin' Anne?

It's 1975 members vs the world... :P


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: 18thofMay on December 23, 2011, 02:07:43 AM
In the recent interview with Linett and Boyd they hinted that the release of SMiLE could bring out other tapes and perhaps a SMiLE 2 would be released.. Did they say that?? I am doubting my memory...


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 23, 2011, 02:09:47 AM
All of the above would be fu*kin  brilliiant and I want it all, but will we just get another slug of greatest hits centered around Rhonda and Baa-baa-Barbara freakin' Anne?

It's 1975 members vs the world... :P

Not really: the GH set would be for Joe Q. Public, the box would be for the likes of us.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Alan Smith on December 23, 2011, 02:18:54 AM
All of the above would be fu*kin  brilliiant and I want it all, but will we just get another slug of greatest hits centered around Rhonda and Baa-baa-Barbara freakin' Anne?

It's 1975 members vs the world... :P

Not really: the GH set would be for Joe Q. Public, the box would be for the likes of us.

Yay!!!  Capitol/EMI, please accept my b/s pre-order.  AGD, inspiring words as always, free beers when ever you get to Melbourne, the colonies - cheers  :-D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jay on December 23, 2011, 02:19:16 AM
Hopefully the liner notes will be better, because most of the ones for the 70s twofers were awful.
The liners for the KTSA portion of the KTSA/BB 1985 are particularly unnerving. The poor guy seems to be suggesting that something somewhat positive can be had in listening to When Girls Get Together. Get this guy to a mental institute, pronto! I hear that Carol Kaye makes for a good room mate.  >:D  :p


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 23, 2011, 02:27:36 AM
I've always considered those liners to be slightly beyond excellent in all aspects.  ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: vintagemusic on December 23, 2011, 02:37:33 AM
How much material is unreleased from the period, where Brian Wilson pulled
that  Soul Searchin song for his Gettin Over My Head album with Carl Wilson
singing? when was that, how much of it is there. was this from an aborted
attempt at an album  by the Beach Boys including Brian Wilson.

Has Brian Wilson pulled other aborted Beach Boy recordings and used them
on recent solo albums besides this one instance.

What is a good educated opinion, on whether or not the Beach Boys on this new album
would cull some of this (90's ?) material and overdub it and use a couple of tracks
already in the can.

Why was the Soul Searchin album abandoned?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: tansen on December 23, 2011, 02:38:04 AM
Best way to drive trolls up the wall ? Ignore them..

Actually, best way to drive trolls up the wall is to send a few goats over the bridge as bait. :D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 23, 2011, 02:41:15 AM
Best way to drive trolls up the wall ? Ignore them..

Actually, best way to drive trolls up the wall is to send a few goats over the bridge as bait. :D

Damn - fresh out.  >:(


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: tansen on December 23, 2011, 02:42:59 AM
Best way to drive trolls up the wall ? Ignore them..

Actually, best way to drive trolls up the wall is to send a few goats over the bridge as bait. :D

Damn - fresh out.  >:(

 ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 23, 2011, 02:45:51 AM
How much material is unreleased from the period, where Brian Wilson pulled
that  Soul Searchin song for his Gettin Over My Head album with Carl Wilson
singing? when was that, how much of it is there. was this from an aborted
attempt at an album  by the Beach Boys including Brian Wilson.

Yes, the famous V2 fiasco. There's also "You're Still A Mystery".

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Has Brian Wilson pulled other aborted Beach Boy recordings and used them
on recent solo albums besides this one instance.

Not BB recordings - he doesn't have the rights to do that unless BRI votes in favour.

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What is a good educated opinion, on whether or not the Beach Boys on this new album
would cull some of this (90's ?) material and overdub it and use a couple of tracks
already in the can.

I think it'll use archive tracks, but not from 1994. Hopefully they would be on the new box.

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Why was the Soul Searchin album abandoned?

Concisely, Brian's management decided he'd be better served by recording a solo album. Bruce has been very vocal in the past about how dumb a stunt that was.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Mike's Beard on December 23, 2011, 03:10:26 AM
Over the last couple of weeks I have purchased vastly expanded reissued albums by The Association and Harpers Bizarre, if groups of this stature can get the deluxe treatment then I have no doubt that there is a market for new expanded Beach Boy albums and that record execs realise this. While the twofers are great, all the post Holland pairings are crying out for bonus material. I don't care that by that point the band was past it's prime, as a BB's completest I'd like to have versions of pretty much everything they recorded. Also I'm guessing much of the rare tracks from the GV box could be improved sonically from 1993 standards? San Miguel sounds so quiet to these ears.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: shelter on December 23, 2011, 04:26:31 AM
Over the last couple of weeks I have purchased vastly expanded reissued albums by The Association and Harpers Bizarre, if groups of this stature can get the deluxe treatment then I have no doubt that there is a market for new expanded Beach Boy albums and that record execs realise this.

Of course I would love to have deluxe editions of all the albums, but what does make this a bit complicated is the fact that groups like The Association and Harpers Bizzare have like five or maybe ten albums, while The Beach Boys have 28.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 23, 2011, 04:31:55 AM
Phil, here's a serious offer - you post here all your sources for the boots you've helped put out, including where some of the masters originated, and I'll reveal the BB/BW sources you assume I have. Fair exchange.

And yes, my previous post was on a par with the one where I threatened to firebomb his house. Except for being a f*cking moron, because he is, as well as a troll and yes, as someone else pointed out, an attention whore. Best way to drive trolls up the wall ? Ignore them..

I've never compiled a manufactured(aluminum disc) bootleg by any artist.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: vintagemusic on December 23, 2011, 04:34:56 AM
How much material is unreleased from the period, where Brian Wilson pulled
that  Soul Searchin song for his Gettin Over My Head album with Carl Wilson
singing? when was that, how much of it is there. was this from an aborted
attempt at an album by the Beach Boys including Brian Wilson.

Yes, the famous V2 fiasco. There's also "You're Still A Mystery".

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Has Brian Wilson pulled other aborted Beach Boy recordings and used them
on recent solo albums besides this one instance.

Not BB recordings - he doesn't have the rights to do that unless BRI votes in favour.

Quote
What is a good educated opinion, on whether or not the Beach Boys on this new album
would cull some of this (90's ?) material and overdub it and use a couple of tracks
already in the can.

I think it'll use archive tracks, but not from 1994. Hopefully they would be on the new box.

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Why was the Soul Searchin album abandoned?

Concisely, Brian's management decided he'd be better served by recording a solo album. Bruce has been very vocal in the past about how dumb a stunt that was.

Thank you for that info Andrew. I don't know what the V2 Fiasco is. But I Get there was an aborted Beach Boy reunion album in the 90's
I presume. Carl would have been alive, and when I heard Soul Searchin on the Wilson solo album, and heard that it was originally an unreleased
Beach Boy track, I thought, this is pretty good why didn't they put this out before. So sometime around the same period as the orange crate art album
the Beach Boys were gonna make an album, and Brian Wilson abandoned it, So you think they might revisit some of those apparently good sounding
tracks and use one or two on this new album in revamped form? that's cool, that would mean Carl Wilson could appear on a couple tracks. WOW

Am I the one who is being called a troll ?

I am just hyped up about the new album, and am trying to learn some stuff and get a handle in my head about what they might do.
I think it would be cool if a couple tracks featured Carl Wilson from this aborted album in the 90's.I have never heard the Mystery song I checked
on you tube but its not up there.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Iron Horse-Apples on December 23, 2011, 05:00:27 AM
Off Topic.

Thanks for people's kind PM's about my sister. She is past the worst and should make a full recovery thankfully! The news about the reunion has been something positive these last few weeks though

I wish everyone a verry merry christmas.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wirestone on December 23, 2011, 06:00:08 AM
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Concisely, Brian's management decided he'd be better served by recording a solo album. Bruce has been very vocal in the past about how dumb a stunt that was.

Didn't Carl walk out of the sessions? And call the material weak? If that's the case, it's hardly surprising Brian pursued a solo path rather than deal with a resistant group.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: ESQ Editor on December 23, 2011, 06:23:33 AM
New interview with David Marks: http://www.examiner.com/beach-boys-in-national/david-marks-is-ready-to-do-it-again


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Mike's Beard on December 23, 2011, 07:19:48 AM
Over the last couple of weeks I have purchased vastly expanded reissued albums by The Association and Harpers Bizarre, if groups of this stature can get the deluxe treatment then I have no doubt that there is a market for new expanded Beach Boy albums and that record execs realise this.

Of course I would love to have deluxe editions of all the albums, but what does make this a bit complicated is the fact that groups like The Association and Harpers Bizzare have like five or maybe ten albums, while The Beach Boys have 28.

That is a good point.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 23, 2011, 08:07:52 AM
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Am I the one who is being called a troll ?

Huh? Not to my knowledge!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Mikie on December 23, 2011, 08:22:54 AM
I still think a 2-CD (or more) live box would be neat. Or live highlights on one or two CD's in the compilation box. Chicago '65, Michigan '66, Central Park/Fillmore '71, Carnegie Hall '72, Nassau '74, Gotfuct '77, Unplugged '93, etc.

The Holy Grail - one song to sell the whole comp: "Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again".


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 23, 2011, 08:29:15 AM
Oh yeah, I'd be down for a live box too.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Aegir on December 23, 2011, 08:35:45 AM
Gotfuct '77

That's a real city? sounds like a joke.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Mikie on December 23, 2011, 08:43:41 AM
What joke.  You don't know where that is, Aegir?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jim V. on December 23, 2011, 08:54:09 AM
I would love if the reissues are the single album paired with outtakes. Maybe some unbooted material would finally surface!


Look at the sessions section of Andrew's website.  From the info gathered there, these are theoretically possible bonus tracks, although I wouldn't be surprised if some of the songs no longer exist for some reason. Some of these we've heard, many we haven't.

Surf's Up- Wouldn't it be Nice to Live Again; Won't You Tell Me

So Tough-  Beatrice From Baltimore ( don't know if the original version of Mess of Help exists but am interested in the lyrics); Out in the Country; Ten Years Harmony

Holland- We Got Love

At this point things get muddled. The infamous 1974 material doesn't have an obvious slot. Tack that on to Holland, or to 15 BO? Sadly, my bet is neither happens, robbing us of ever hearing the 1974 CF -_-

15 Big Ones- Angel Come Home (yup, although I think it was just the backing track and a rough vocal); Sea Cruise; Mony Mony; Clangin'; 10,000 Years Ago; Lisa

Love You- the Adult Child material; You've Lost that Lovin' Feelin

MIU- Mike, Come Back To LA; Burlesque; How's About A Little Bit

LA- Calendar Girl; Looking Down the Coast; Drip Drop (yeah right :lol ); California Feeling (oh God no, not this version); Santa Ana Winds; I'm Begging You Please (umm....no); It's a Beautiful Day

Now, I don't believe any of these actually WILL be on there, but it's fun to dream ;)




Well actually Columnated, I'll fix this up for you. There are a few that I'm pretty sure don't exist and a few other changes. So (with the addition of Sunflower, here goes:

Sunflower
"San Miguel"
"What Can the Matter Be"
"Loop de Loop"
"I'm Going Your Way"
"Walkin'"
"Games Two Can Play"
"Soulful Old Man Sunshine"
"Where Is She?"
"Back Home"
"Carnival"
"I Just Got My Pay"
"You Never Give Me Your Money"

Surf's Up
"Seasons in the Sun"
"Big Sur" (early version)
"H.E.L.P. is on the Way"
"My Solution"
"Won't You Tell Me" (if it's considered a Beach Boys track)
"Burlesque"
"It's a New Day" (if it's considered a Beach Boys track)
"(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again"

Carl and the Passions "So Tough"
"Out in the Country"
"Body Talk"
"Funky Fever"
"Gimme Some Lovin'"
"Rooftop Harry"
"Spark in the Dark" (doubtful, just Brian messing around supposedly)

Holland
"We Got Love"

1974 Sessions
"California Feelin'"
"Brian's Jam"
"Clangin'"
"Battle Hymn Of The Republic"
"Brian's Tune"
"Lucy Jones"
"You're Riding High On The Music"
"Don't Let Me Go"
"Our Life, Our Love, Our Land"

15 Big Ones
"Come Go With Me"
"Come to the Sunshine"
"Gold Rush"
"Lisa"
"Secret Love"
"10,000 Years Ago"
"Workin' In A Coal Mine"
"Sea Cruise"
"On Broadway"
"Mony, Mony"
"Running Bear"
"Shake, Rattle & Roll"
"Michael Rowed The Boat Ashore"
"Let's Dance"
"Don't Fight the Sea"
"Short Skirts"

Love You
"Ruby Baby"
"Marilyn Rovell"
"Sherry She Needs Me"
"That Special Feeling"
"We Gotta Groove"
"You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'"
"Lazy Lizzie"

M.I.U. Album
"Hows About A Little Bit (of Your Sweet Lovin')"
"Why"
"Egypt"
"Beach Burlesque"
"Goin To Get That Girl"
"Our Team"

L.A. (Light Album)
"Looking Down the Coast"
"California Feelin'"
"Calendar Girl"
"Brian's Back"
"Please Darling"

Keepin' the Summer Alive
"Little Girl"
"Jamaica Farewell"
"Stranded in the Jungle"
"Johnny B. Goode"
"Surfer Suzie"
"Da Doo Ron Ron"
"Smokey Places"
"Boys & Girls"
"Goin to the Beach"
"I'll Always Love You"
"Starbaby"
"How's About a Little Bit (of Your Sweet Lovin')"

The Beach Boys
"Stevie"
"Sweetie"
"East Meets West"
"Chasin' the Sky"
"Down by the Pier"
"Water Builds Up"

That is probably all the things they could add as bonus tracks and whatnot.

*Thanks to AGD site for this.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: GuyOnTheBeach on December 23, 2011, 10:14:51 AM
I would love if the reissues are the single album paired with outtakes. Maybe some unbooted material would finally surface!


Look at the sessions section of Andrew's website.  From the info gathered there, these are theoretically possible bonus tracks, although I wouldn't be surprised if some of the songs no longer exist for some reason. Some of these we've heard, many we haven't.

Surf's Up- Wouldn't it be Nice to Live Again; Won't You Tell Me

So Tough-  Beatrice From Baltimore ( don't know if the original version of Mess of Help exists but am interested in the lyrics); Out in the Country; Ten Years Harmony

Holland- We Got Love

At this point things get muddled. The infamous 1974 material doesn't have an obvious slot. Tack that on to Holland, or to 15 BO? Sadly, my bet is neither happens, robbing us of ever hearing the 1974 CF -_-

15 Big Ones- Angel Come Home (yup, although I think it was just the backing track and a rough vocal); Sea Cruise; Mony Mony; Clangin'; 10,000 Years Ago; Lisa

Love You- the Adult Child material; You've Lost that Lovin' Feelin

MIU- Mike, Come Back To LA; Burlesque; How's About A Little Bit

LA- Calendar Girl; Looking Down the Coast; Drip Drop (yeah right :lol ); California Feeling (oh God no, not this version); Santa Ana Winds; I'm Begging You Please (umm....no); It's a Beautiful Day

Now, I don't believe any of these actually WILL be on there, but it's fun to dream ;)




Well actually Columnated, I'll fix this up for you. There are a few that I'm pretty sure don't exist and a few other changes. So (with the addition of Sunflower, here goes:


15 Big Ones

"Come to the Sunshine"


Now THIS I would love to hear! I love Van Dyke's version and am now very intrigued as to what Bri and the guys done with it.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jason on December 23, 2011, 11:10:25 AM
Apparently, that version of Come To The Sunshine is lost.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Myk Luhv on December 23, 2011, 11:14:27 AM
What about "Just An Imitation"? Wasn't that done during the CATP or Holland sessions or am I way off?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: GuyOnTheBeach on December 23, 2011, 11:20:37 AM
Apparently, that version of Come To The Sunshine is lost.

Damn, that's a shame. Would have been good to hear.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Mikie on December 23, 2011, 11:26:31 AM
What about "Just An Imitation"? Wasn't that done during the CATP or Holland sessions or am I way off?

No evidence that it was ever recorded - I've never heard it.  Unreleased, might be a David Sandler song reworked.

Speaking of rare unreleased, how about "Spark In The Dark"?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: hypehat on December 23, 2011, 11:51:11 AM
What about "Just An Imitation"? Wasn't that done during the CATP or Holland sessions or am I way off?

No evidence that it was ever recorded - I've never heard it.  Unreleased, might be a David Sandler song reworked.

Speaking of rare unreleased, how about "Spark In The Dark"?

Sounds like it wouldn't be released, given what it consists of....


Also something called 'Spark In The Dark', also from '72

Not, as is frequently assumed, a nascent "Funky Pretty". It's Brian noodling around on a piano for several minutes - starts off sounding like "Loop De Loop", has a bit of a wander and ends up sounding alarmingly like "Chain Reaction Of Love". No vocals.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Keri on December 23, 2011, 11:55:28 AM
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Concisely, Brian's management decided he'd be better served by recording a solo album. Bruce has been very vocal in the past about how dumb a stunt that was.

Didn't Carl walk out of the sessions? And call the material weak? If that's the case, it's hardly surprising Brian pursued a solo path rather than deal with a resistant group.

That seems to be pretty much the picture painted in Carlin's book. Carl didn't think the material was commercial enough, the Beach Boys apparently wanted to bring in Sean O Hagan, which looks like a vote of no confidence in Brian. Brian had developed most of the material prior to what little Beach Boys involvement there seems to have been, so it was his to take away. Maybe Carlin's book is pro Brian but there does seem to be more to it than that it was Brian's management's fault.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: anazgnos on December 23, 2011, 12:13:45 PM
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Concisely, Brian's management decided he'd be better served by recording a solo album. Bruce has been very vocal in the past about how dumb a stunt that was.

Didn't Carl walk out of the sessions? And call the material weak? If that's the case, it's hardly surprising Brian pursued a solo path rather than deal with a resistant group.

That seems to be pretty much the picture painted in Carlin's book. Carl didn't think the material was commercial enough, the Beach Boys apparently wanted to bring in Sean O Hagan, which looks like a vote of no confidence in Brian. Brian had developed most of the material prior to what little Beach Boys involvement there seems to have been, so it was his to take away. Maybe Carlin's book is pro Brian but there does seem to be more to it than that it was Brian's management's fault.

C-man posted this great run-down of all the competing agendas in play during the whole Paley/O'Hagan episode.

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,9255.msg158623.html#msg158623


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: smile-holland on December 23, 2011, 12:35:33 PM
What about "Just An Imitation"? Wasn't that done during the CATP or Holland sessions or am I way off?

"Carry Me Home" (Holland era) would be a nice addition as well.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Ron on December 23, 2011, 12:42:13 PM
Interesting stuff, C-Man, thank you for that post. 


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Keri on December 23, 2011, 12:46:55 PM

C-man posted this great run-down of all the competing agendas in play during the whole Paley/O'Hagan episode.

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,9255.msg158623.html#msg158623

Interesting post, seems to be another case of not being on the same page. I think it may well work this time as they seem to have made official agreements already, I think Brian is happy to write with Mike and  the Beach Boys are happy for Brian to produce. Carl not being there anymore sadly may actually be a factor in favour of it all working now, having another BB with strong musical opinions might have been too much to keep together.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wirestone on December 23, 2011, 12:54:59 PM

C-man posted this great run-down of all the competing agendas in play during the whole Paley/O'Hagan episode.

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,9255.msg158623.html#msg158623

Interesting post, seems to be another case of not being on the same page. I think it may well work this time as they seem to have made official agreements already, I think Brian is happy to write with Mike and  the Beach Boys are happy for Brian to produce. Carl not being there anymore sadly may actually be a factor in favour of it all working now, having another BB with strong musical opinions might have been too much to keep together.

Sadly, I think that might be true.

Also sad: my impression is that Brian really wanted to work with the group in the 90s. He was healthy, he was creative, the band still had a mean blend with Carl in the middle of it. I mean, ask yourself this: Why else would he have anything to do with Stars and Stripes? Such a wasted opportunity.

Not that the still-emerging wifeandmanagers don't have something to answer for either. Accept that the BBs project would have fallen through. Too fraught. The management team should have realized that, if they were going to make a BW solo record a priority, that the style and sound of Imagination was not the way to capitalize on the mid-90s BW underground buzz. As it was, it took them another nine years or so to regain that cred (with BWPS).


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Mikie on December 23, 2011, 01:03:15 PM
"Carry Me Home" (Holland era) would be a nice addition as well.

Love that one.  Kinda depressing for the masses, but...........Blondie did a great job. Evidently the booted version is the only recorded version in existence. Every time I listen to it, I think I hear Toni Tenille on that.

"I've Got A Friend" cleaned up and the '63 and '70 versions of "Back Home" for me.

And the alternate "Add Some Music" would be cool.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: SMiLE Brian on December 23, 2011, 01:06:44 PM
My dream is for the vaults to have a 1965 completed version of sandy/sherry she needs me, somewhere.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 23, 2011, 01:16:01 PM
My dream is for the vaults to have a 1965 completed version of sandy/sherry she needs me, somewhere.

As for "Sandy", all that now exists(according to Mark Linett) is the unfinished recording(as presented by bootlegger "Sea of Tunes"), but it doesn't mean that further tapes for the song didn't exist back in 1965.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jim V. on December 23, 2011, 02:00:47 PM
My dream is to have "Where is She?", the 1974 version of "California Feelin'", the 1963 version of "Back Home", and "(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again" released. That is it. Anything else is gravy.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Mike's Beard on December 23, 2011, 02:43:19 PM
I wonder if any of the CATP era outtakes are any good? Seeing as the album was only eight songs long.
If Jon Stebbings reads this, Jon do you have any idea what tracks from Dennis's unfinished solo record from 1970 with Daryl Dragon are in circulation and what the odds are of them seeing the light of day?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Mikie on December 23, 2011, 03:34:11 PM
"Big Sur". The slow version (4/4). Essential that it gets released.

And the fast version of "Rock & Roll Music" with the original last verse intact.  


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jeff on December 23, 2011, 05:17:03 PM
"Big Sur". The slow version (4/4). Essential that it gets released.

And the fast version of "Rock & Roll Music" with the original last verse intact.  Release the mofo!

 ::)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Mikie on December 23, 2011, 05:31:03 PM
OK, Jeff, I edited out the last line.

Howsat?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jeff on December 23, 2011, 05:57:06 PM
OK, Jeff, I edited out the last line.

Howsat?

A bit better I s'pose.  Just keep in mind that there's likely to be only a limited number of slots for unreleased material.  The albums-with-bonus-tracks thing is a possibility, but we could get nothing more than a handful of unreleased tracks scattered across a comp.  So an alternate of R&R Music (which I think a fair number of people on this board would not want) could be released to the exclusion of something else that people would want.

Maybe it doesn't matter, but if the powers-that-be actually read this board, it would be best to let them know which tracks really should be released.  Let's not have another situation where we get "Our Team" rather than "Everyobody Wants to Live."


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Keri on December 23, 2011, 06:04:15 PM
...The management team should have realized that, if they were going to make a BW solo record a priority, that the style and sound of Imagination was not the way to capitalize on the mid-90s BW underground buzz. As it was, it took them another nine years or so to regain that cred (with BWPS).

Yeah it wasn't right, I liked imagination quite well at the time, it had been so long since I'd had a Brian Wilson album of new material, but now it is one of my least favourites, the production is slick and the arrangements lack the Brian Wilson touch. I still like it more than any of the post Love You albums, but I much prefer GIOMH, it is a much quirkier album with more interesting arrangements.

For the rest of the Reunion stuff, the tour doesn't excite me as it is unlikely to get to New Zealand so I'm unlikely to see them, the new album is what excites me the most, it could be good, I'm almost sure to like it if Brian remains in charge. I like the sound of DIA and new songs would be really welcome. The archival releases I can take or leave, I haven't yet got Pet Projects which probably has more stuff on it that i would like than any unreleased material. Adult Child does interests me, i loved It's Over now & Still I dream of it from the Good Vibrations boxset. But buying a boxset for maybe one or two songs, nup.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jim V. on December 23, 2011, 06:36:32 PM
OK, Jeff, I edited out the last line.

Howsat?

A bit better I s'pose.  Just keep in mind that there's likely to be only a limited number of slots for unreleased material.  The albums-with-bonus-tracks thing is a possibility, but we could get nothing more than a handful of unreleased tracks scattered across a comp.  So an alternate of R&R Music (which I think a fair number of people on this board would not want) could be released to the exclusion of something else that people would want.

Maybe it doesn't matter, but if the powers-that-be actually read this board, it would be best to let them know which tracks really should be released.  Let's not have another situation where we get "Our Team" rather than "Everyobody Wants to Live."

Honestly, I'm not betting that The Beach Boys will release a bunch of previously unreleased stuff with this 50th anniversary campaign, but I just wanted to give an idea for what is out there. As far as the albums released with extra material, I'm personally not so sure that will happen, but it would be awesome if it did. However, I do think the box set will have a nice helping of previously unreleased material, and I'm sure with Mark and Alan presumably running the show, we will get the cream of the crop. And if there are deluxe reissues too, then hey, that is just awesome!

You do bring up an interesting point though. Who was in charge when they decided to put "H.E.L.P. is on the Way" and "Games Two Can Play" on the box set instead of the 1974 "California Feelin" or "(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again"??


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jeff on December 23, 2011, 06:56:30 PM
OK, Jeff, I edited out the last line.

Howsat?

A bit better I s'pose.  Just keep in mind that there's likely to be only a limited number of slots for unreleased material.  The albums-with-bonus-tracks thing is a possibility, but we could get nothing more than a handful of unreleased tracks scattered across a comp.  So an alternate of R&R Music (which I think a fair number of people on this board would not want) could be released to the exclusion of something else that people would want.

Maybe it doesn't matter, but if the powers-that-be actually read this board, it would be best to let them know which tracks really should be released.  Let's not have another situation where we get "Our Team" rather than "Everyobody Wants to Live."

Honestly, I'm not betting that The Beach Boys will release a bunch of previously unreleased stuff with this 50th anniversary campaign, but I just wanted to give an idea for what is out there. As far as the albums released with extra material, I'm personally not so sure that will happen, but it would be awesome if it did. However, I do think the box set will have a nice helping of previously unreleased material, and I'm sure with Mark and Alan presumably running the show, we will get the cream of the crop. And if there are deluxe reissues too, then hey, that is just awesome!

You do bring up an interesting point though. Who was in charge when they decided to put "H.E.L.P. is on the Way" and "Games Two Can Play" on the box set instead of the 1974 "California Feelin" or "(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again"??

The selections really were bad.  The Smile stuff was a no-brainer, but "Punchline"?  "The Things We Did Last Summer"?  "Ruby Baby"?  With the options that they had, it's hard to believe they made those choices.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: seanmurd on December 23, 2011, 07:07:08 PM
You do bring up an interesting point though. Who was in charge when they decided to put "H.E.L.P. is on the Way" and "Games Two Can Play" on the box set instead of the 1974 "California Feelin" or "(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again"??

I love both of those songs -- "H.E.L.P." and "Games Two Can Play" -- what's wrong with them?

I'm very curious to see how this new box set plays out. Will there be a lot of overlap with the 1993 box? If the new box is going to have (for example) 80% of the same tracks that the 1993 box had, I'd almost rather they just remaster the original box and throw in an extra (sixth) disc of new outtakes. Will it be a second "hits and rarities" box, or will the new one be entirely unreleased stuff? I got the impression after the Endless Harmony and Hawthorne sets that the Powers That Be didn't think there was much else worth releasing in the vaults (except for the SMiLE stuff, of course, which is now mostly all released).


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jim V. on December 23, 2011, 08:06:16 PM
You do bring up an interesting point though. Who was in charge when they decided to put "H.E.L.P. is on the Way" and "Games Two Can Play" on the box set instead of the 1974 "California Feelin" or "(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again"??

I love both of those songs -- "H.E.L.P." and "Games Two Can Play" -- what's wrong with them?

I'm very curious to see how this new box set plays out. Will there be a lot of overlap with the 1993 box? If the new box is going to have (for example) 80% of the same tracks that the 1993 box had, I'd almost rather they just remaster the original box and throw in an extra (sixth) disc of new outtakes. Will it be a second "hits and rarities" box, or will the new one be entirely unreleased stuff? I got the impression after the Endless Harmony and Hawthorne sets that the Powers That Be didn't think there was much else worth releasing in the vaults (except for the SMiLE stuff, of course, which is now mostly all released).

I enjoy both of those songs. But when have a source like AGD saying how great things like "Live Again" and the '74 "California Feelin'" are. And there is supposedly all this great early '70s Dennis material in the ca still, I just think maybe there are some songs that were more worthy to be released than "H.E.L.P...." or "Games Two Can Play."

And yeah, it does seem like after Endless Harmony and Hawthorne that somebody seemed to think there wasn't much in the way of valuable unreleased material. But....not to sound like a whiner, but neither of those albums were exactly chock full of previously unreleased stuff. There were a whole lot of stereo remixes (some of which are awesome, and revelatory) and relatively unimportant live versions, and even the inclusion of a previously released song by ol' Brucie ("Endless Harmony"). I think if they would have stepped up to the plate with more unreleased material those albums would've done a lot better. I mean, how many truly previously unreleased songs were on Hawthorne. Three?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Paulos on December 23, 2011, 08:45:03 PM
You do bring up an interesting point though. Who was in charge when they decided to put "H.E.L.P. is on the Way" and "Games Two Can Play" on the box set instead of the 1974 "California Feelin" or "(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again"??

I love both of those songs -- "H.E.L.P." and "Games Two Can Play" -- what's wrong with them?

I'm very curious to see how this new box set plays out. Will there be a lot of overlap with the 1993 box? If the new box is going to have (for example) 80% of the same tracks that the 1993 box had, I'd almost rather they just remaster the original box and throw in an extra (sixth) disc of new outtakes. Will it be a second "hits and rarities" box, or will the new one be entirely unreleased stuff? I got the impression after the Endless Harmony and Hawthorne sets that the Powers That Be didn't think there was much else worth releasing in the vaults (except for the SMiLE stuff, of course, which is now mostly all released).

I enjoy both of those songs. But when have a source like AGD saying how great things like "Live Again" and the '74 "California Feelin'" are. And there is supposedly all this great early '70s Dennis material in the ca still, I just think maybe there are some songs that were more worthy to be released than "H.E.L.P...." or "Games Two Can Play."

And yeah, it does seem like after Endless Harmony and Hawthorne that somebody seemed to think there wasn't much in the way of valuable unreleased material. But....not to sound like a whiner, but neither of those albums were exactly chock full of previously unreleased stuff. There were a whole lot of stereo remixes (some of which are awesome, and revelatory) and relatively unimportant live versions, and even the inclusion of a previously released song by ol' Brucie ("Endless Harmony"). I think if they would have stepped up to the plate with more unreleased material those albums would've done a lot better. I mean, how many truly previously unreleased songs were on Hawthorne. Three?

Two to my mind - Lonely Days and A Time To Live In Dreams.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: I. Spaceman on December 23, 2011, 09:06:17 PM
"Punchline"?  "The Things We Did Last Summer"?  "Ruby Baby"?  


All great.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wirestone on December 23, 2011, 09:19:47 PM
You do bring up an interesting point though. Who was in charge when they decided to put "H.E.L.P. is on the Way" and "Games Two Can Play" on the box set instead of the 1974 "California Feelin" or "(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again"??

I love both of those songs -- "H.E.L.P." and "Games Two Can Play" -- what's wrong with them?

I'm very curious to see how this new box set plays out. Will there be a lot of overlap with the 1993 box? If the new box is going to have (for example) 80% of the same tracks that the 1993 box had, I'd almost rather they just remaster the original box and throw in an extra (sixth) disc of new outtakes. Will it be a second "hits and rarities" box, or will the new one be entirely unreleased stuff? I got the impression after the Endless Harmony and Hawthorne sets that the Powers That Be didn't think there was much else worth releasing in the vaults (except for the SMiLE stuff, of course, which is now mostly all released).

I enjoy both of those songs. But when have a source like AGD saying how great things like "Live Again" and the '74 "California Feelin'" are. And there is supposedly all this great early '70s Dennis material in the ca still, I just think maybe there are some songs that were more worthy to be released than "H.E.L.P...." or "Games Two Can Play."

And yeah, it does seem like after Endless Harmony and Hawthorne that somebody seemed to think there wasn't much in the way of valuable unreleased material. But....not to sound like a whiner, but neither of those albums were exactly chock full of previously unreleased stuff. There were a whole lot of stereo remixes (some of which are awesome, and revelatory) and relatively unimportant live versions, and even the inclusion of a previously released song by ol' Brucie ("Endless Harmony"). I think if they would have stepped up to the plate with more unreleased material those albums would've done a lot better. I mean, how many truly previously unreleased songs were on Hawthorne. Three?

The 93 box does many things right and a few wrong. One of the wrong is overlooking Dennis Wilson. The box does him no favors -- and it's because he really didn't write hits for the band. But that's why you don't have Live Again or other unreleased tunes from him. Also, the Brianistas were driving that bus.

The thing about H.E.L.P. and Games is that they are very, very Brian tunes, and one has a really nice, sweet lead from BW. They're also pretty near finished. (Unlike the California Feelin' demo, let's say.) So no, they're not brilliant songs exactly, but they're very nice and representative of a kind of song that Brian-fans really dig.

Also, Endless Harmony was a soundtrack. Hawthorne was an audio documentary of the Capitol era. Neither one was solely a rarities collection, and neither one professed to have definitive historical scope. They were great for what they were, but an entire era of the band (basically 1970 on) has been poorly documented in terms of unreleased material.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Nicko1234 on December 23, 2011, 09:37:09 PM

The 93 box does many things right and a few wrong. One of the wrong is overlooking Dennis Wilson. The box does him no favors -- and it's because he really didn't write hits for the band. But that's why you don't have Live Again or other unreleased tunes from him. Also, the Brianistas were driving that bus.

I don't think Dennis was overlooked 'that' much. 1 or 2 songs shy maybe but San Miguel might well not have been included as it had been released before. I agree that the Brianistas definitely were in charge though.

I think any new box could have loads of interesting unreleased stuff from 1970 onwards. And it could include things like It's a Beautiful Day, Where I Belong, Somewhere Near Japan etc. that were omitted from the previous set.

But I doubt there is that much of interest from the 60s that hasn't been released. The only reason I can think why Punchline, The Things we did Last Summer and Ruby Baby were included previously is surely because there wasn't much else. This time we might get Back Home, another Party outtake, Gonna Hustle You (?), Beginning of the End perhaps but nothing earth-shattering.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jay on December 23, 2011, 09:37:19 PM
"Carry Me Home" (Holland era) would be a nice addition as well.

Love that one.  Kinda depressing for the masses, but...........Blondie did a great job. Evidently the booted version is the only recorded version in existence. Every time I listen to it, I think I hear Toni Tenille on that.

"I've Got A Friend" cleaned up and the '63 and '70 versions of "Back Home" for me.

And the alternate "Add Some Music" would be cool.
What do you mean when you say I've Got A Friend "cleaned up"? Is there something wrong with the master tape?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wirestone on December 23, 2011, 09:46:34 PM
To me, classic Dennis is something like "Cuddle Up" or "Steamboat." To discover those after the box set made me feel a little cheated.

Yes, in retrospect, there are quite a few good Dennis tracks on the set. But somehow it doesn't seem to capture him as a fully creative entity.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: anazgnos on December 23, 2011, 10:37:54 PM
"Carry Me Home" (Holland era) would be a nice addition as well.

Love that one.  Kinda depressing for the masses, but...........Blondie did a great job. Evidently the booted version is the only recorded version in existence. Every time I listen to it, I think I hear Toni Tenille on that.

"I've Got A Friend" cleaned up and the '63 and '70 versions of "Back Home" for me.

And the alternate "Add Some Music" would be cool.
What do you mean when you say I've Got A Friend "cleaned up"? Is there something wrong with the master tape?

Presumably he's talking about the live version, which is really lo-fi.  I guess I read there was a studio take but it had no vocals? 


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: vintagemusic on December 23, 2011, 11:04:23 PM
I finally heard the unreleased BBoys track "Your'e a Mystery" on one of the websites.

Its ok, Soul Searchin is ten times better. I mean its not bad, but the bootleg, sounds so
unfinished and like its down about three or four generations. Its kind of kooky, didin't
go where I expected it to, with some polishing it would be ok I guess.

As far as bonus tracks, when they put the "previously unreleased" tracks as bonus tracks
I notice bands and record companies stretch them a bit and sometimes use them slightly
out of sequence to their historical accuracy. Depending on how many albums and how
many extra tracks they have. I noticed McCartney and Harrison both did some bonus
tracks on reissued studio albums, and they fudged the bonus tracks a little bit, so they
would have at least a couple for each album, they would take something cut in 72 and put
it on an album cut in 73-74 to economize.

The other option is a disc of solely unknown material, The WHo did that with ODDS AND SODS
the Beatles Anthology, lots of groups have done it that way also.

I'm cool with either approach just as long as the tracks become availabe in good fidelity.

I cant imagine reissues with bonus tracks until both SMILE and the forthcoming Studio album
have run their course.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: tansen on December 24, 2011, 01:45:42 AM
"Games Two Can Play" is such an amazing song - the chord progression is great!

I agree it would be nice getting a the 74 version of California Feelin', but of course it would be nice getting songs we haven't already heard too. Wouldn't it be Nice to Live Again is a good candidate. But don't get me wrong, I'd love to hear Brian's California Feelin' piano demo too.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: I. Spaceman on December 24, 2011, 08:47:15 AM
The only reason I can think why Punchline, The Things we did Last Summer and Ruby Baby were included previously is surely because there wasn't much else. 

I can think of another reason:
They are great outtakes that hadn't been previously released or even bootlegged.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Nicko1234 on December 24, 2011, 10:00:55 AM
The only reason I can think why Punchline, The Things we did Last Summer and Ruby Baby were included previously is surely because there wasn't much else. 

I can think of another reason:
They are great outtakes that hadn't been previously released or even bootlegged.

Are there any mediocre songs that you don't think are great?  :)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: drbeachboy on December 24, 2011, 10:09:52 AM
The Things We Did Last Summer is great if only because we get to hear the Boys sing a true Four Freshmen type arrangement, which they really only did on a few songs. A great look at Brian's musical roots.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: lance on December 24, 2011, 12:13:34 PM
I like all those songs too. I can't understand how anybody could not like Punchline...what exactly is so awful about that song? It's a cool little instrumental.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: The Shift on December 24, 2011, 12:48:48 PM
Punchline rocks.

Not sure where all this discussion is heading - sounds like some folk are already disappointed with the track list of the box, the archive issues and the greatest hits package!

If Mark and Alan are at the helm I have absolute faith that we won't be disappointed, whatever they throw at us and whatever form it takes.

Roll on 2012, say I!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Jeff on December 24, 2011, 01:35:46 PM
Some of you seem not to care what is released, as long as something is released.  It doesn't matter what it is--if it says "Beach Boys" on it, you're going to claim that it's "great."  But you're not doing the rest of us any favors.  Essentially, you're telling the record company that it doesn't have to put any effort into ensuring a quality product, because you'll blindly buy it no matter what.

Personally, I do care what is released, and I won't buy it if it isn't a quality product.  And yes, I'll be bummed if Wouldn't It Be Nice to Live Again and the alternate Add Some Music are left in the can in favor of stuff like Punchline, Ruby Baby, etc.

So that's where this is headed--at least it's where I'm headed with my posts.  If there's any chance at all that decision makers read this, I hope they see that there are several tracks which a lot of us really want to see released.  I also hope they don't see the posts talking about the supposed greatness of Punchline and The Things We Did Last Summer.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: drbeachboy on December 24, 2011, 02:20:37 PM
Jeff, I know, it's all about you. Maybe I'll only buy based on your seal of approval. I think you should submitt the track listing to Capitol and also post it here for Mark & Alan. You might save them any extra work or just in case they added something that doesn't meet your criteria & approval. We sure do get ahead ourselves around here, don't we?

Happy Holidays to everyone and a Merry Christmas to all who celebrate it tonight and tomorrow.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: bgas on December 24, 2011, 02:24:01 PM
Some of you seem not to care what is released, as long as something is released.  It doesn't matter what it is--if it says "Beach Boys" on it, you're going to claim that it's "great."  But you're not doing the rest of us any favors.  Essentially, you're telling the record company that it doesn't have to put any effort into ensuring a quality product, because you'll blindly buy it no matter what.

Personally, I do care what is released, and I won't buy it if it isn't a quality product.  And yes, I'll be bummed if Wouldn't It Be Nice to Live Again and the alternate Add Some Music are left in the can in favor of stuff like Punchline, Ruby Baby, etc.

So that's where this is headed--at least it's where I'm headed with my posts.  If there's any chance at all that decision makers read this, I hope they see that there are several tracks which a lot of us really want to see released.  I also hope they don't see the posts talking about the supposed greatness of Punchline and The Things We Did Last Summer.

I'd venture it's more that EVERYONE has their own opinions; I'd bet there's no-one that doesn't want WIBNTLA on the release, but just because you and other(s) don't share the high opinions of Punchline and TWDLS, certainly doesn't mean they aren't great songs.
  I'm presuming we're going to get some great releases, but, if they somehow don't meet your standards, I'm certain Capitol can live without selling it to you, as all the rest of us will be buying like crazy.  


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Dave Modny on December 24, 2011, 03:52:18 PM
I have no idea what their plan of attack for the box is this time around, but I think it would be interesting if they expanded it from a 4 to a 5-disc set as a *base*, and then added a 6th bonus ,"sessions" disc, similar to what they did last time (and yes, I'm aware that the Euro version of the '93 box set had the extra "mini" disc's worth of material added). :)

That way, within the base 5-disc set, they could keep *everything* that was on the 4-disc '93 set, add any glaring omissions (e.g. Let Him Run Wild), add more deep cuts to give a better sense of balance or expand things (e.g. Dennis, 70's stuff, etc.), add a few tracks beyond Kokomo if they wish, and then 12-15 bona fide rarities/unreleased tracks (i.e. the *good* stuff!). Basically, add another 25-28 tracks, or so, to the base of the '93 set. Of course, all of this would be chronological, with the fill-ins occurring where they should, and spread out over the 5 discs. Also, any of those already released, '93 tracks (e.g. SMILE) could be tweaked, upgraded, presented slightly differently, or remixed as needed. They could also rework the SMILE section, entirely, if need be.


They could then use that bonus 6th disc, like the previous one, to add the more fanatic-oriented stuff -- backing tracks, even *more* rarities/unreleased stuff, more SMILE, live tracks, alternate mixes, vocals-only, air checks, etc. -- only this time, make that 6th disc entirely *unique* in relation to the previous box. That is, as to not make the '93 completely obsolete in its content.

Seems like a win-win scenario. Something that would appeal to every type of buyer, covers all the bases, makes it fresh, and still probably doesn't completely deplete the archives if they're looking at doing deluxe editions, mono/stereo, or separate, individual discs with a theme down the road, live, etc.

I mean, six discs total for 50 years (i.e. 5 + 1) doesn't seem out of the ordinary to me, at all.


Just thinking out loud.  :)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 24, 2011, 04:02:22 PM
Some of you seem not to care what is released, as long as something is released.  It doesn't matter what it is--if it says "Beach Boys" on it, you're going to claim that it's "great."  But you're not doing the rest of us any favors.  Essentially, you're telling the record company that it doesn't have to put any effort into ensuring a quality product, because you'll blindly buy it no matter what.

Personally, I do care what is released, and I won't buy it if it isn't a quality product.  And yes, I'll be bummed if Wouldn't It Be Nice to Live Again and the alternate Add Some Music are left in the can in favor of stuff like Punchline, Ruby Baby, etc.

So that's where this is headed--at least it's where I'm headed with my posts.  If there's any chance at all that decision makers read this, I hope they see that there are several tracks which a lot of us really want to see released.  I also hope they don't see the posts talking about the supposed greatness of Punchline and The Things We Did Last Summer.

I'd venture it's more that EVERYONE has their own opinions; I'd bet there's no-one that doesn't want WIBNTLA on the release, but just because you and other(s) don't share the high opinions of Punchline and TWDLS, certainly doesn't mean they aren't great songs.
  I'm presuming we're going to get some great releases, but, if they somehow don't meet your standards, I'm certain Capitol can live without selling it to you, as all the rest of us will be buying like crazy. 
Well put. I pretty much guarantee no matter what is  put on there, there will be complaints. That can't be helped, as we BB fans don't all like the same things. For instance, some people love Love You; others here hate it.  I hate 'Don't Hurt My Little Sister', yet others love it. Quality is in the eye of the beholder when it comes to the Beach Boys.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 24, 2011, 06:53:46 PM
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.  The usual "go to" Christmas CD around here is "Christmas With The Chipmunks Vols. 1 & 2", but I may also play parts of "The Beach Boys-Ultimate Christmas" CD......or maybe(if I can endure it) The "Sea of Tunes" box set with the entire sessions for the 1964 Christmas album. This is obviously the time to play it.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: seanmurd on December 24, 2011, 07:04:03 PM
I have no idea what their plan of attack for the box is this time around, but I think it would be interesting if they expanded it from a 4 to a 5-disc set as a *base*, and then added a 6th bonus ,"sessions" disc, similar to what they did last time (and yes, I'm aware that the Euro version of the '93 box set had the extra "mini" disc's worth of material added). :)

That way, within the base 5-disc set, they could keep *everything* that was on the 4-disc '93 set, add any glaring omissions (e.g. Let Him Run Wild), add more deep cuts to give a better sense of balance or expand things (e.g. Dennis, 70's stuff, etc.), add a few tracks beyond Kokomo if they wish, and then 12-15 bona fide rarities/unreleased tracks (i.e. the *good* stuff!). Basically, add another 25-28 tracks, or so, to the base of the '93 set. Of course, all of this would be chronological, with the fill-ins occurring where they should, and spread out over the 5 discs. Also, any of those already released, '93 tracks (e.g. SMILE) could be tweaked, upgraded, presented slightly differently, or remixed as needed. They could also rework the SMILE section, entirely, if need be.


They could then use that bonus 6th disc, like the previous one, to add the more fanatic-oriented stuff -- backing tracks, even *more* rarities/unreleased stuff, more SMILE, live tracks, alternate mixes, vocals-only, air checks, etc. -- only this time, make that 6th disc entirely *unique* in relation to the previous box. That is, as to not make the '93 completely obsolete in its content.

Seems like a win-win scenario. Something that would appeal to every type of buyer, covers all the bases, makes it fresh, and still probably doesn't completely deplete the archives if they're looking at doing deluxe editions, mono/stereo, or separate, individual discs with a theme down the road, live, etc.

I mean, six discs total for 50 years (i.e. 5 + 1) doesn't seem out of the ordinary to me, at all.


Just thinking out loud.  :)

Yes, this. Exactly!  :thumbsup


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Ron on December 24, 2011, 07:08:35 PM
I hope they don't just expand the other boxset since I already have that boxset!  I'd rather they make a boxset full of takes and versions I've never heard.  Which I feel is possible. 


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Heysaboda on December 24, 2011, 07:54:18 PM
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.  The usual "go to" Christmas CD around here is "Christmas With The Chipmunks Vols. 1 & 2", but I may also play parts of "The Beach Boys-Ultimate Christmas" CD......or maybe(if I can endure it) The "Sea of Tunes" box set with the entire sessions for the 1964 Christmas album. This is obviously the time to play it.

What?  Nothing from Brian's Christmas CD?  I do like the song "Christmasy".)
 ;D


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Runaways on December 24, 2011, 08:19:54 PM
I finally heard the unreleased BBoys track "Your'e a Mystery" on one of the websites.

Its ok, Soul Searchin is ten times better. I mean its not bad, but the bootleg, sounds so
unfinished and like its down about three or four generations. Its kind of kooky, didin't
go where I expected it to, with some polishing it would be ok I guess.


oo i think it's way better than soul searchin.  Soul Searchin is way too adult contemporary.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: PhilCohen on December 24, 2011, 09:27:58 PM
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.  The usual "go to" Christmas CD around here is "Christmas With The Chipmunks Vols. 1 & 2", but I may also play parts of "The Beach Boys-Ultimate Christmas" CD......or maybe(if I can endure it) The "Sea of Tunes" box set with the entire sessions for the 1964 Christmas album. This is obviously the time to play it.

What?  Nothing from Brian's Christmas CD?  I do like the song "Christmasy".)
 ;D

I looked in my collection, and YES, I've got Brian's "What I Really Want For Christmas" CD. I had forgotten all about it.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: I. Spaceman on December 24, 2011, 09:49:48 PM
The only reason I can think why Punchline, The Things we did Last Summer and Ruby Baby were included previously is surely because there wasn't much else. 

I can think of another reason:
They are great outtakes that hadn't been previously released or even bootlegged.

Are there any mediocre songs that you don't think are great?  :)

Are there any Johnny-buy-Pet-Sounds-lately snide little pissants with hilariously boring number-sequence-at-the-end-usernames who aren't on this board, DickoI812?
Man, you don't even like Vegetables! You should be tossed off of Brian, Van Dyke, Jules, David, Diane and Michael's SMiLE session party lifeboat (or any serious BB discussion, whichever comes first) for that alone. You ARE the Punchline. I'm gonna grab my guitar and play and laugh along right now. That's where it is AT.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 24, 2011, 09:59:27 PM
Jeez guys...it's Christmas!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Nicko1234 on December 24, 2011, 10:41:53 PM

Are there any Johnny-buy-Pet-Sounds-lately snide little pissants with hilariously boring number-sequence-at-the-end-usernames who aren't on this board, DickoI812?
Man, you don't even like Vegetables! You should be tossed off of Brian, Van Dyke, Jules, David, Diane and Michael's SMiLE session party lifeboat (or any serious BB discussion, whichever comes first) for that alone. You ARE the Punchline. I'm gonna grab my guitar and play and laugh along right now. That's where it is AT.

You do know that I wasn't being entirely serious with my comment right? The smiley after it was an indication of that.

Is it really that important that some people don't like the songs that you like?

It is, as another poster said, Christmas so let's leave it there.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: pmugghc on December 25, 2011, 04:19:43 AM
I don't know if this would be feasible, but couldn't this message board's admin make a list with all known outtakes and then give us each a limited number of votes (8 ?) and then we would get a list of the most wanted outtakes after everyone has voted ? That could then be forwarded to Capitol, not sure if they would use it though.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: lance on December 25, 2011, 09:52:01 AM
Maybe worth a try, but I reckon a WHOLE LOT of great music would be left off if people don't even like Punchline or Things We Did Last Summer.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: bgas on December 25, 2011, 11:53:44 AM
I don't know if this would be feasible, but couldn't this message board's admin make a list with all known outtakes and then give us each a limited number of votes (8 ?) and then we would get a list of the most wanted outtakes after everyone has voted ? That could then be forwarded to Capitol, not sure if they would use it though.

maybe while you're compiling this list( maybe simply borrowing it from 10452), you( the admin) could assemble  snippets of each selection, say a minimum of 30 seconds each, and post links to each one, so everyone can sample them before voting?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Ron on December 25, 2011, 12:15:58 PM
I think what some people don't notice though is that the record company's motivation isn't necessarily to give the fans everything they want.  It's completely possible that some songs are left off of some projects for reasons like A. they're saving it for another project B. certain band members don't like it C. financial/royalty concerns D. political reasons etc.

So it's not just a popularity thing, and I'm kind of glad it isn't, because it leaves open the possibility that there's still stuff out there greater than some of the stuff we've already heard. 


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: The Shift on December 25, 2011, 04:33:13 PM
I suspect that the fans whose opinion is regarded sufficiently high enough by the powers that be will be/have already been polled as to what they'd regard as worthy of inclusion on the box set and are trustworthy enough to keep their gobs shut. First thing the rest of us will know will be when we read the credits in the accompanying booklet. And I like it that way.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Dave Modny on December 26, 2011, 12:35:20 AM
For me, I'll stick with my original off-the-cuff list of studio rarities/unreleased track picks and hope that some (or most) would make it to an upcoming archival release. :)

However, one I personally forgot (but someone else noted) is the studio version of We Got Love. Considering that it snuck out on some early German pressings of Holland, it's probably the most infamous track that was actually released within the Beach Boys classic era but still hasn't made the leap to any (legit) digital release. So, I think that one's absolutely essential in terms of putting order to the catalog. It's also a pretty damned fine recording (IMHO).

Another rarity that I left off my original list that I personally think is a stellar choice for a backing track-only release is that "strings-up" version of Had To Phone Ya'. In fact, I was pretty much blown away when I heard it, and it really drew light to just how much that track was able to capture the spirit of Brian's more fully-realized and grand productions of the 60s -- both melodically and in execution. I might enjoy that one more without vocals!

Live tracks...too many to mention. You've Got To Hide Your Love Away from Michigan State '66, Only With You from Carnegie Hall '72, *any* of the "box set tracks" from Paramount '93, versions of Country Air, Feel Flows, All This Is That, Wild Honey and It's About Time from the early 70s, would all my personal first choices for great live versions that deserve an archival release.

One can also only imagine what other goodies exist -- both documented or not -- that have never leaked yet!


PS - Even though it probably falls into the release rights of solo Dennis material, it's a shame we can't get a clean, legit, digital release of Sound Of Free! Hopefully, that will find it's way out on some CD project in my lifetime.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Paulos on January 10, 2012, 01:32:06 AM
I was thinking earlier that perhaps one of the archival release might be a second singles box covering 65-69? Does anyone know how well the first box sold?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 10, 2012, 02:13:24 AM
I was thinking earlier that perhaps one of the archival release might be a second singles box covering 65-69? Does anyone know how well the first box sold?

Reportedly a limited edition of 10,000, and hasn't sold out yet.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Paulos on January 10, 2012, 02:54:40 AM
I was thinking earlier that perhaps one of the archival release might be a second singles box covering 65-69? Does anyone know how well the first box sold?

Reportedly a limited edition of 10,000, and hasn't sold out yet.

Probably not going to be a second one then! The ridiculous retail price probably didn't help things, it does look good though.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Rocker on January 10, 2012, 11:53:35 AM
I guess at one point we'll get a live album from the reunion tour. I repeat myself, but it would be cool if there would be a second disc with the Chicago '65 concert. That way you'd have a live recording from their early and their (probably) last years. On the other hand the contrast might be too heavy.


Is anyone going to New Orleans for the first appearance after the Grammies ?


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Justin on January 10, 2012, 12:03:27 PM
it would be cool if there would be a second disc with the Chicago '65 concert. That way you'd have a live recording from their early and their (probably) last years. On the other hand the contrast might be too heavy.

Oh my no.  Like you said, doing such a thing would emphasize the huge difference in the two bands and it would be a huge shot in the foot.  The public is not going to want to hear a 2012 show when they have a '65 show in their hands.  The 2012 show would just be asking for a beating! 

But I do hope they put out a DVD of the tour....that almost is a requirement these days.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: RONDEMON on January 10, 2012, 12:14:28 PM
Willing to bet they all have separate tour buses/transportation for the entirety of the tour.
The only times I bet they will see each other are in vocal rehearsals or right before the show.
I doubt they will be sharing individual dressing rooms too.

Whatever works though as long as the shows are top notch.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Justin on January 10, 2012, 12:20:37 PM
I doubt they will be sharing individual dressing rooms too.

I don't know of any big name act that would have to have their principle members share dressing rooms.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: southbay on January 10, 2012, 04:58:55 PM
I doubt they will be sharing individual dressing rooms too.

I don't know of any big name act that would have to have their principle members share dressing rooms.

Throughout the early and mid-90's the Beach Boys regularly shared dressing rooms, even in the largest of venues.  Alan and Carl in one, Mike and Bruce in the other. On the 97 tour when Carl was ill, he had his own dressing room and Bruce, Al and Mike roomed together. No kidding.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Melt Away on January 13, 2012, 03:38:59 PM
Since "Adult Child" will NEVER be officially released I definitely think they should re-record some tunes from that for the new album! I really don't want to hear "Little Deuce Coupe" drowned in auto-tune since they've already ruined "Do it Again". All new material would be awesome but if they are gonna pull from the unreleased catalog they need to resurrect some of AC!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: drbeachboy on January 13, 2012, 03:58:30 PM
Since "Adult Child" will NEVER be officially released I definitely think they should re-record some tunes from that for the new album! I really don't want to hear "Little Deuce Coupe" drowned in auto-tune since they've already ruined "Do it Again". All new material would be awesome but if they are gonna pull from the unreleased catalog they need to resurrect some of AC!
What's to say if they re-record Adult Child material that it won't be auto tuned? I think DIA sounds fine. What specific spots were ruined by auto tune? I would like to hear what you are hearing.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Aegir on January 13, 2012, 04:13:13 PM
Imagine a slickly produced, electronic drums, autotuned version of It's Over Now... haha.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Melt Away on January 13, 2012, 04:37:03 PM
Listen to Mike from the New Years Eve show singing DIA compared to the new studio version his voice is infested with auto-tune! They're aging for sure but I'd rather hear a scratchy, off key or plain bad voice over poorly executed pitch correction any day.(It was Brian's imperfect vocal roughness that made "Love You"/"AC" for me) But, oh well, I'm just thankful they are even doing anything at all!


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Melt Away on January 13, 2012, 04:38:56 PM
Imagine a slickly produced, electronic drums, autotuned version of It's Over Now... haha.


Now you're just freaking me out, lol.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Shady on January 13, 2012, 04:57:22 PM
Since "Adult Child" will NEVER be officially released I definitely think they should re-record some tunes from that for the new album! I really don't want to hear "Little Deuce Coupe" drowned in auto-tune since they've already ruined "Do it Again". All new material would be awesome but if they are gonna pull from the unreleased catalog they need to resurrect some of AC!

Brilliant idea..

A re-recorded version of today's Brian singing "Still I dream of it" would be a great closer to the album..

I smell a Grammy


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: drbeachboy on January 13, 2012, 05:18:11 PM
Listen to Mike from the New Years Eve show singing DIA compared to the new studio version his voice is infested with auto-tune! They're aging for sure but I'd rather hear a scratchy, off key or plain bad voice over poorly executed pitch correction any day.(It was Brian's imperfect vocal roughness that made "Love You"/"AC" for me) But, oh well, I'm just thankful they are even doing anything at all!
If DIA is auto tuned, then there has to be specific spots demarcated by time where this occurs. Comparing to what you just said, it would be like me saying Mike sang the original too perfect compared to the way he sings it in concert. Brian is quoted that he thought Mike sang it pretty well. I'm assuming he was talking about while they were recording it, not after his vocals were auto tuned.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Melt Away on January 14, 2012, 05:03:46 AM
You can hear it so plainly on "..Bodies" from sun tanned bodies and the high "GET together.." It's one of the most plastic things I've ever heard. The original is miles above this version as nostalgic as it may be.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Rocker on January 14, 2012, 06:01:05 AM
You can hear it so plainly on "..Bodies" from sun tanned bodies and the high "GET together.." It's one of the most plastic things I've ever heard. The original is miles above this version as nostalgic as it may be.


Sure but I guess they tried to make the song sound "modern" and you have that effect on the voice quite often today. I don't mean necessarily because it is needed but because it is used as an effect. Like double tracking for example


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: drbeachboy on January 14, 2012, 07:52:31 AM
You can hear it so plainly on "..Bodies" from sun tanned bodies and the high "GET together.." It's one of the most plastic things I've ever heard. The original is miles above this version as nostalgic as it may be.
Not a big deal for me. Two words fixed that were sung by 70 year old guy, I can live with that. You are right though, we should be thankful that they are working on a new album.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Melt Away on January 14, 2012, 05:55:10 PM
You can hear it so plainly on "..Bodies" from sun tanned bodies and the high "GET together.." It's one of the most plastic things I've ever heard. The original is miles above this version as nostalgic as it may be.
Not a big deal for me. Two words fixed that were sung by 70 year old guy, I can live with that. You are right though, we should be thankful that they are working on a new album.

I wouldn't say it was only two words but most of the song. Yeah, enough griping.. I'm gonna have a hard enough time watching the grammys in hopes of a 10 minute (if that) melody of hits. Everything else is sure to be nauseating.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: b00ts on January 14, 2012, 06:19:47 PM
You can hear it so plainly on "..Bodies" from sun tanned bodies and the high "GET together.." It's one of the most plastic things I've ever heard. The original is miles above this version as nostalgic as it may be.
Not a big deal for me. Two words fixed that were sung by 70 year old guy, I can live with that. You are right though, we should be thankful that they are working on a new album.

I wouldn't say it was only two words but most of the song. Yeah, enough griping.. I'm gonna have a hard enough time watching the grammys in hopes of a 10 minute (if that) melody of hits. Everything else is sure to be nauseating.
Yes it is all over the backing vocals as well. C'est la vie. I personally am hoping for an autotuned version of "Everybody Wants to Live."


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: drbeachboy on January 14, 2012, 06:42:16 PM
You can hear it so plainly on "..Bodies" from sun tanned bodies and the high "GET together.." It's one of the most plastic things I've ever heard. The original is miles above this version as nostalgic as it may be.
Not a big deal for me. Two words fixed that were sung by 70 year old guy, I can live with that. You are right though, we should be thankful that they are working on a new album.

I wouldn't say it was only two words but most of the song. Yeah, enough griping.. I'm gonna have a hard enough time watching the grammys in hopes of a 10 minute (if that) melody of hits. Everything else is sure to be nauseating.
Yes it is all over the backing vocals as well. C'est la vie. I personally am hoping for an autotuned version of "Everybody Wants to Live."
Jesus, they must of really sucked when they went in the studio this summer. Here are some the best singers in popular music and they can no longer sing without autotune throughout the whole recoding. What a dilemma.


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: drbeachboy on January 14, 2012, 06:49:16 PM
You think they will autotune the reunion concerts too? Man, if they can't sing in a studio with multiple takes, the shows will most likely be unbearable. ;)


Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: vintagemusic on January 14, 2012, 09:22:51 PM
Well here we are in  mid Jan. Is there any news about recording sessions or material
for the new album? Have they done anything besides Do it again? In the studio?

I read some articles a few weeks ago, where some of the Beach Boys said they were
writing some tunes, but I haven't heard anything about sessions for the new album.



Title: Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR
Post by: Wirestone on January 14, 2012, 10:09:18 PM
Well here we are in  mid Jan. Is there any news about recording sessions or material
for the new album? Have they done anything besides Do it again? In the studio?

I read some articles a few weeks ago, where some of the Beach Boys said they were
writing some tunes, but I haven't heard anything about sessions for the new album.



Apparently there were sessions scheduled in December. I think Brian had been working on some backing tracks earlier in the year, so it might not take a lot of group sessions to put together material.

But I don't think we'll hear anything about any sessions until the album is nearly done. Too many things can go wrong if information is released too soon. It does seem, though, that if they want the album out this year they had better get cracking.