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Title: What is this really?
Post by: Beckner on March 19, 2006, 05:15:43 PM
Threads get locked after a question. Foda lame.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on March 19, 2006, 05:32:57 PM
Beckn...uh...I mean... "Foda"...I locked the thread about Ian because the question was already answered, and the last thing I wanted was for anything unnecessary to get started. Also, it should've been here in the Sandbox, as it was not an on-topic Beach Boys related post.

 Besides, Ian is still here under another name, so it was irrelevant.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Beckner on March 19, 2006, 06:31:48 PM
I'm sorry but it's that sort of policing that bugs the crap outta me. Nothing was getting started and really now, aren't we welcome? I never actively quit but even those that did are welcome back, at Chuck's word.

I still read and stop by but my work is elsewhere.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on March 19, 2006, 06:56:34 PM
Nobody said anyone wasn't welcome. Like I said, Ian's already back. The thread is irrelevant, because HE IS STILL HERE. The question was answered, the point was made, so what use does it serve now?

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Nothing was getting started and really now, aren't we welcome
I didn't say you or anyone else was starting anything; I just wanted to avoid what is happening right now in this thread,which is why *I* locked it. I'm not going to lock this, because there still seems to be a misunderstanding.



Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Beckner on March 19, 2006, 10:32:53 PM
Maybe I just don't agree with the unnecessary locking of threads. If people ask in earnest where any of the "expatriates" went and why, they deserve a brief explanation. None of this "asking questions is bad so I'm gonna sweep this under the rug."

To be absolutely clear and this has been stated at the Shop previous, I'm a moderate on the situation. I felt like if I quit here all together that would have been a sick bandwagon move so I have revived my classic "troll" character.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on March 19, 2006, 10:57:17 PM
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Maybe I just don't agree with the unnecessary locking of threads. If people ask in earnest where any of the "expatriates" went and why, they deserve a brief explanation. None of this "asking questions is bad so I'm gonna sweep this under the rug."

That wasn't my intention, and I apologize if you took it as such. Hell, I went ahead and unlocked it. However, I am stating right now that it will be locked if it turns into a flame war.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: I. Spaceman on March 20, 2006, 01:39:14 AM
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However, I am stating right now that it will be locked if it turns into a flame war.

Haha! Talk about the smouldering embers after a brushfire.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Charles LePage @ ComicList on March 20, 2006, 02:45:49 AM
I did state anyone who left was welcome back.

Anyone, ANYONE, posting messages that, by design, inflame instead of inspire, antagonize instead of assist, will find they've done so on the wrong BB message board.  Male Ego (http://egoboard.com/) might be more appropriate.  The three moderators running this board need not tolerate any WB channel style foolishness.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Charles LePage @ ComicList on March 20, 2006, 03:49:32 AM
Maybe I just don't agree with the unnecessary locking of threads. If people ask in earnest where any of the "expatriates" went and why, they deserve a brief explanation. None of this "asking questions is bad so I'm gonna sweep this under the rug."

Asking questions isn't bad.  If anyone has a question about where so and so is, they can be directed to the thread in this forum that explains why people felt the need to leave.  The difficult part will be getting those who left to explain why, after all that, they feel the need to come back.   :lol


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: donald on March 20, 2006, 07:52:51 AM
I've been pm'd by at least one person attempting to make contact after the fiasco.  Now I know his new name. 

Anyone else wanting  to share his/her new name with me,  please pm.

I don't mind hopping around to the different BB sites to touch bases with people, I'd just like to know who they are now.... ??? ::)

and in many ways it has been good to get out of the rut and go back to revisit those other sites......
and visit with some old friends.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: I. Spaceman on March 20, 2006, 12:39:38 PM
Maybe I just don't agree with the unnecessary locking of threads. If people ask in earnest where any of the "expatriates" went and why, they deserve a brief explanation. None of this "asking questions is bad so I'm gonna sweep this under the rug."

Asking questions isn't bad.  If anyone has a question about where so and so is, they can be directed to the thread in this forum that explains why people felt the need to leave.  The difficult part will be getting those who left to explain why, after all that, they feel the need to come back.   :lol

Don't think you want the answer to that.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Charles LePage @ ComicList on March 20, 2006, 12:54:49 PM
The difficult part will be getting those who left to explain why, after all that, they feel the need to come back.   :lol

Don't think you want the answer to that.

I'd be curious to know why someone like yourself, Ian, who left based on such high principles, has decided to return.  Grass not as green on the other side as expected?  The announced collapse of this board and site never happened? 


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on March 20, 2006, 01:13:30 PM
Yeah, I knew they'd all come tippy-toeing back, even after all the grandstanding we had to endure.


This place is too loveable to leave for good.  >:D



Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Charles LePage @ ComicList on March 20, 2006, 01:28:28 PM
Well, to be fair, some left because someone else left and told them to leave too.  Anyone fitting in that category probably would come back at some point.

Some left because they were never happy here and wished the board and site didn't exist at all.  Someone like that you wouldn't expect back. 

Honestly, though, out of pride or other reasons, someone coming back isn't necessarily going to be willing or able to explain their actions.  As long as the useless drama that left does not return, there isn't an issue.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Beckner on March 20, 2006, 01:47:18 PM
Well to be fair, if anyone is confused about yours truly, I only went into hiding. The whole thing gave me a wah- wah.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Charles LePage @ ComicList on March 20, 2006, 03:43:39 PM
We love you Foda.  That's all that really matters.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: b.dfzo on March 20, 2006, 04:26:59 PM
Well to be fair, if anyone is confused about yours truly, I only went into hiding. The whole thing gave me a wah- wah.

Wah-wah
You made me such a big star
Being there at the right time
Cheaper than a dime
Wah-wah,
you've given me your wah-wah


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Beckner on March 20, 2006, 04:33:04 PM
That's what I was getting at.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: I. Spaceman on March 20, 2006, 05:07:46 PM
The difficult part will be getting those who left to explain why, after all that, they feel the need to come back.   :lol

Don't think you want the answer to that.

I'd be curious to know why someone like yourself, Ian, who left based on such high principles, has decided to return.  Grass not as green on the other side as expected?  The announced collapse of this board and site never happened? 


I returned to laugh a bit, then leave again I guess. Just a visitor. Don't recall anyone announcing any collapse of anything. The community that WAS this board DID collapse and a new one formed. That's great, no problem with that at all. The grass is wherever you tread. Same grass, different paths is all there is to it.
No matter what anyone will admit, Andrew, Jon, Chance, Jeff, Laurie, Chris D, me, Maybelline, Jason et al were the cornerstones of the daily activity of ONE element of this board. The non_bb element. That's gone now. And that's fine, it just moved somewhere else.
Who cares anyway? The only thing that's important is caring about people and reflecting God's love in our treatment of others. This is all little stuff here. Not worthy of the drama whatsoever. it's not that important.If that sounds like a pot-kettle-black, I am sure it is.
Peace to all, and to whoever I offended in anything, forgiveness is all I ask. Never meant any harm.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: b.dfzo on March 20, 2006, 05:18:42 PM
Confusion now hath made his masterpiece!


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: I. Spaceman on March 20, 2006, 05:19:42 PM
Confusion now hath made his masterpiece!

Oh, enlighten me, chickie.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: b.dfzo on March 20, 2006, 05:22:33 PM
Uh...I think Shakespeare said that...chickie?


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: I. Spaceman on March 20, 2006, 05:23:22 PM
Yeah, right on-eth.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Charles LePage @ ComicList on March 20, 2006, 05:24:38 PM
That was well written, Ian.

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Don't recall anyone announcing any collapse of anything.

Good, good riddance to the whole fucking thing, Jon and John wanted to shut it down to begin with, they were right the first time. I barely post anymore, but I do like many of the people here, Laurie and Ian among them, and consider this community one I'm a part of. (Even if I take a breather for a week or 9) This is a total outrage, RIP Smiley, die at your own stupid hand.  -- Costly Bow

Of course, it's understandable you might not remember that, since it was in a thread that was deleted.

I understand wanting to know what went down, and wanting to understand fully before pulling the trigger. Its a tough row to hoe as it were because Chuck is going to do whatever he can to prevent folks from knowing what happened, deleting threads and all that, and it comes down to basically his word against ours. -- Jon Hunt

That was in the same thread.

I appreciate your words.  I sincerely hope they turn out to be sincere.

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Peace to all, and to whoever I offended in anything, forgiveness is all I ask. Never meant any harm.

I have already forgiven anyone who said or tried to convince others that I harassed or sexually harassed anyone.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: I. Spaceman on March 20, 2006, 05:30:34 PM
AH, I see. Did not remember those posts. I stand corrected.
But, as the so-called "ringleader" of the exodus, I never remotely expected any sort of collapse of anything, not did I wish it. Just had a disagreement of principles and action that I could not overlook. But all things must pass, and I am happy to remain a welcome visitor, every once in a while.
And I think it has turned out well for both boards, overall. Less drama = good thing.
Good luck with everything, fine job by you and others keeping it rockin'.
Peace.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: I. Spaceman on March 20, 2006, 05:36:59 PM
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Peace to all, and to whoever I offended in anything, forgiveness is all I ask. Never meant any harm.

I have already forgiven anyone who said or tried to convince others that I harassed or sexually harassed anyone.

Must you always attack others in your own defense, Charles? That's what me, Jeff and others objected to. But that's you, man. Whatever.

I never said you "sexually harassed" anybody. I said you made Laurie feel uncomfortable. You did. Then you stopped. Then you ribbed her about it on the board. Some people disagreed with that. Then you made some statements toward her that were objectionable, IMO. Then some people left. That's all.
I accused you of reading PMs. That was true. Andrew left solely because of that.
We are all part of Jesus' family, Charles. No one has a higher level of piety or entitlement after we have accepted his word. Sometimes it seems to others that you feel higher than others, beyond your administrative capacity. Highly judgmental and sanctimonious at times. That is what the difficulty WAS.
But whatever. Peace.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Charles LePage @ ComicList on March 20, 2006, 05:39:27 PM
Sentiments I can agree with.

Though, as long as Laurie and I have see threads like this:

http://egoboard.com/viewtopic.php?t=2823

It's a revolting gift that just keeps on giving.

But, as you say, this board is better for what happened.  New management and a brighter spirit. 


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: I. Spaceman on March 20, 2006, 05:42:07 PM
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Though, as long as Laurie and I have see threads like this:

http://egoboard.com/viewtopic.php?t=2823

It's a revolting gift that just keeps on giving.

Totally agree. Ridiculous, evil behavior. Awful stuff.
Sorry to have any part in stoking that kind of bizarre behavior.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Charles LePage @ ComicList on March 20, 2006, 05:43:40 PM
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Peace to all, and to whoever I offended in anything, forgiveness is all I ask. Never meant any harm.

I have already forgiven anyone who said or tried to convince others that I harassed or sexually harassed anyone.

Must you always attack others in your own defense, Charles? That's what me, Jeff and others objected to. But that's you, man. Whatever.

I'm not attacking anyone, unless forgiving someone is an attack.

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I never said you "sexually harassed" anybody.

I didn't say you did.  But it was said, repeatedly.

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I accused you of reading PMs. That was true. Andrew left solely because of that.

That's not the reason AGD gave to me, but it was given in private and shall remain so.

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We are all part of Jesus' family, Charles. No one has a higher level of piety or entitlement after we have accepted his word. Sometimes it seems to others that you feel higher than others, beyond your administrative capacity. Highly judgmental and sanctimonious at times. That is what the difficulty WAS.  But whatever. Peace.

1) I suppose then I was put in my place when it was stated several times how unChristlike I acted.

2) Since this board is now run by others, my poor administrative skills are no longer an issue.



Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: I. Spaceman on March 20, 2006, 05:48:19 PM
Good deal, Charles. No problem left at all, on my part.


BTW, I'd like to state an apology for starting the whole Paley situation. It was a violation of confidence to the person who took me in confidence. The whole thing is my fault, totally.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Charles LePage @ ComicList on March 20, 2006, 05:52:58 PM
Ah, Paley.  Why did he really.... oh, never mind.   :deadhorse  :lol


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Susan on March 20, 2006, 06:00:16 PM
Well to be fair, if anyone is confused about yours truly, I only went into hiding. The whole thing gave me a wah- wah.

The whole thing WAS a wah-wah.  The discouraging news is that some seem intent on keeping it a wah-wah.  Which means it has taken me all damn night to post this.  Honestly...some people have no regard for the needs of those around them...


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Beckner on March 20, 2006, 06:50:24 PM
Im confused Susan. What held you up again?


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Charles LePage @ ComicList on March 20, 2006, 07:09:23 PM
(http://www.allopolice.net/photos/holdup_gun.JPG)


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: b.dfzo on March 20, 2006, 07:25:20 PM
(http://www.allopolice.net/photos/holdup_gun.JPG)

Puts "held up" in a new light...


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Charles LePage @ ComicList on March 20, 2006, 07:34:36 PM
If you want a real cheap thrill, search "holdup" on google images and see what else you find.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on March 20, 2006, 07:57:11 PM
Ian, I've gained a level of respect for you after that post.

Honestly, I do think things are better on both boards now. I do lurk at the Shop,although I've only posted once, and obviously my level of involvement here is pretty high. I will say this...just because I'm a mod here doesn't mean that I'm 100 % Charles and 100% anti-whomever. I'm a neutral party (although I personally think Charles is good people), and will remain so. In all honesty, the he-said/she-said stuff...I don't give a flying flip over. None of us are perfect. So, no hard feelings on my end...indeed, little feelings on my end.

If any of you (that means ALL of you) ever have any issues with the site, or someone, or anything...or you just want to shoot the breeze, feel free to either pm me or email me at fear2stop@yahoo.com

Love & Mercy guys (and gals).

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Jeez...I just read that thread at the Male Ego board.  ::)

I'm not going to comment about Mikie. Chuck...how'd you know it was him?


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Beckner on March 20, 2006, 08:18:05 PM
Mikie?


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Charles LePage @ ComicList on March 20, 2006, 08:23:06 PM
(http://flakmag.com/misc/images/lifecer.jpg)


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Beckner on March 20, 2006, 10:34:43 PM
Well gee, I really know how to get a dialogue going. I should get a job as one of those asshats that keeps rock bands together.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Susan on March 20, 2006, 11:22:34 PM
Im confused Susan. What held you up again?

As i multi-tasked through my evening, every time i went to post here, someone else had posted, so i got the warning and had to repost...really, just a modest effort at some humour.  Clearly an attempt that was dated the moment it hit the ozone.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on March 20, 2006, 11:32:39 PM
...but well appreciated, just the same!


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: donald on March 21, 2006, 01:06:25 PM
A lot of the problems that crop up on message boards stem from the relative anonymity of members and guests.

It can serve as a kind of vehicle for antisocial behavior.

This kind of behavior violates the fragile bond of trust formed in these places.

One could ask:

If the moderator can read pms, and delete (or create) threads at will, how is one to know that all of the characters who appear here are not the same person? :afro





Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Cabana Boy on March 21, 2006, 01:16:23 PM
It can serve as a kind of vehicle for antisocial behavior.
Which reminds me... I'm already in breach of my ASBO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASBO). Best be on my merry way.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Jason on March 21, 2006, 04:22:01 PM
Man we should all just get together and have one big group-hug.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Charles LePage @ ComicList on March 21, 2006, 05:24:49 PM
Maybe... not.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: I. Spaceman on March 21, 2006, 05:43:04 PM
Right on, Chuck.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Charles LePage @ ComicList on March 21, 2006, 05:50:38 PM
I wouldn't want to make anyone feel uncomfortable.*

*NOT a passive aggressive mockery of this conversation.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Beckner on March 21, 2006, 06:17:56 PM
I fucking love this guy.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Jason on March 21, 2006, 06:55:07 PM
Foda, you're an asshat.  :D


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on March 21, 2006, 07:11:27 PM
Which is why we love ya.

Charles...that f*cking owned!   :lol

You won...
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f217/mastergalb/1freeinternet.jpg)


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: TV Forces on March 21, 2006, 08:21:27 PM
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(http://www.suck.com/filler/96/05/15/blah.gif)


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: donald on October 15, 2008, 10:20:37 AM
Those were the days!


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Aegir on October 16, 2008, 11:38:03 AM
Are you kidding? That was way too much drama for a fan board about the frickin' Beach Boys.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: Alex on October 16, 2008, 03:04:46 PM
Those were the days!

That's what used to go on here? I was a lurker here around that period in time, but I guess I never really noticed the (attempted) flame wars. I was more concerned with reading about Beach Boys related stuff than members' personal bickering. Glad those days have passed.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on October 16, 2008, 10:28:11 PM
Amen.


Title: Re: What is this really?
Post by: donald on November 18, 2008, 07:22:01 PM
There were bits of nastiness but seldom a dull moment