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Hey guys,

Here's a stereo mix of Barnyard
Had to go in on this after I heard Bruiteur's mix

http://icreateification.blogspot.com/

.WAV file Download link is under the video.
Feel free to use it on your mix.

SMiLE

-J

Wow, that's the best isolation I've heard. Great job, and thanks for sharing!

so you think capitol will do this when they wanna release a stereo version

Very cool.  I liked that phased ending too.

Niiiiice

This sounds so fucking great. PLEASE do the same for I'm In great Shape.  The vocal on this sounds cleaner than the box version.

No problem.
Lead vocal isolation credit goes to Bruiteur.
I just isolated his isolation.   ;D

Nice job seltaeb!..Would you mind putting up this isolated vocal, or PMing it to me..I need it for my edit of Barnyard.

Thanks!

I'm sure the Prime Minister would be very happy too.

Amazing work, thanks to you and (of course) to Bruiteur!

Wow, great mix!   :3d

Absolutely fantastic! Thanks for sharing.

Thanks bro - and Yes - Bruiteur is the man! I hope to be able to perform that level of vocal extraction one day.

Right now I'm working on trying to extract the lead vocal on Wonderful - for some reason the instrumental & final versions of the track don't sync up, even when placed in the same key. Anyone else notice this? Very strange...


Much appreciated my fellow SMiLE mixers. I enjoyed both of your mixes. Rock on!  ;D

Is it possible to isolate the "barnshine" vocals in some way? Just asking, since it looks like you're a miracle worker! Awesome job!

That could be a tough one, since it's sourced from an acetate (I think?) and the "Barnshine" vocals are mixed super low. But I'll definitely mess with it and see if something's possible from my end!

Thank you so much for sharing!  Great job on this.  Not so sure about the phasing at the end yet...

Yeah, I wanted to line up the stereo backing vocals with the pitch-corrected stereo backing track, but Ihad to throw in the towel on that one. There's something weird going on but I don't know what. An extra refrain somewhere or something. "Roll your own" my ass!

Hey guys,

I attempted to isolate the vocal from I'm In Great Shape.

Also had a little fun with the sequencing.   8)

Check it out:

http://icreateification.blogspot.com/2011/11/beach-boys-im-in-great-shape-stereo-mix.html

.WAV download link under the video!

-J

Could you also put up the Barnyard lead vocal isolation - please, please, please!!!!!!

I would, but I think I'd rather let Bruiteur do it, since it's his work. Besides, he holds the best quality version. :)

Hint: What I did with "Barnyard", pretty much anyone can do.

"I'm In Great Shape" on the other hand, lol.. That took a long time to extract. It still has some phase issues, and I couldn't completely remove the piano, but it is significantly lower. I plan on revisiting it as I get better at this stuff. Anyway, it should hold people over until Bruiteur hits us with his next masterpiece.   ;D

In the meantime, I'm working on a mix of Child Is The Father Of The Man. I managed to extract the new vocals from the acetate - Which, btw, I can listen to on loop for days!

What is the song that you hear right at the beginning of I'm In Great Shape? The piano melody. I can't for the life of me place it. I know I'm going to feel like a gigantic dumbass once somebody says what it is. Ever have one of those brainfarts? ::)  ;D

hands down better than the box version of these songs

Many thanks for sharing these tracks. I'm one of the many lacking knowledge of the arcane ways of creating new mixes - and bow down to those who can. It's funny how an off the cuff demo to a radio DJ has contributed so much to the on going life of SMiLE. I guess there's no way of retrieving the word 'agriculture' from the original... digital manipulation can only go so far...

I was excited to try to isolate that "agriculture". After the first line of the song, the piano gets louder, and the vocal gets softer, so it gets harder to do the seperation.

But you can tell, without a doubt, that he's saying "a---(?) country"

Can anyone decipher the word he sings before "country"?

Perhaps this has been suggested before, but I always wondered whether the line might originally have ended:

"...of the aggie culture"

I think it makes more sense ... being in the great shape of the aggie culture ... plus it has a nice second meaning of playing with marbles.
I also can imagine how it could be misremembered over time as "agriculture."   

or "aggie country"    of course

This, of course, is to revisit one of the great debates of the ancient Church Fathers: open country / agriculture / something else. Orthodox tradition allows a range of opinions on the matter.  :)

Yeah same question over here as well!

The start of that sequence really works man going into the siren vocals :).

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The isolation is very good although of course things become very difficult when the vocal becomes significantly lower in level.

It's part of the track "Heroes and Villains Part 2", 21 on the second disc of the box set. And it does work very well as an intro to this (although the woo-woos are among my least favourite Smile vocals, they do not offend me used here to bridge the two parts)

Tape decks will never play back at exactly the same speed twice.  Because of the lack of any real stereo mixes of that version of Wonderful, leads me to believe it only exists as a monophonic mix or acetate (like Barnshine and YWMS, etc.)...  But in contrast, they seem to have the multitracks for the backing vocals.

So what you have is a modern ProTools isolation and remix of the backing vocals, but then a vintage tape-source of that mix.  So the two will not fall together exactly.  On the otherhand, there was another track that synchs perfectly because both seem to be from a ProTools reconstruction that Linnett/Boyd did (Was it Child?  I can't remember).  Does that make sence?  Could be talking out of my rear-end here... 

lovin both mixes - congrats dude great work!

is it possible to get barnyard without the phazed ending? just fits so nice in the boxset without that!

much love!

J

What you're saying makes perfect sense.
It's odd because, even lined up at exactly the same pitch, the tempos are WAY off.
You'd expect a little phasing action, but this almost sounds like two different takes, it's so off.
I don't hear any signs of time-stretching on either version. I'm officially thrown for a loop.


Thanks man. I'll see if I can do that! If not.. "Roll Your Own"  ;D

He appears to be singing "open country" in the demo, to go with the title "Open Country Song."

Having listened carefully to both versions, I believe that these are two diffetent takes. Actually, for a lot of the sessions the master take is not represented, but usually it's not that diffetent from the take that is included.

You mean Wonderful or Child? 

I think this version of "Barnyard" is just awesome. Can't believe you got it to sound that good.

"I'm In Great Shape" though, I prefer the official version. I think it really works that way.

Would it be possible to get a version of IIGS that is just Brian's voice, without the piano or any of the IIGS studio backing track?

Hey, I posted this in another thread, but since you seem so good at this I think you should be the person to give it a shot at making a "fall 1966" "Heroes And Villains" version that includes the following:

• First Verse (ending w/ fluttertone)
• "I'm In Great Shape"
• "Heroes And Villains: Intro (early version)": which is called "part 3" if you listen to the track, which I guess what make "part 3" then, haha
• "??": not sure what you could use here, maybe the "three score and five" part?
• "Barnyard"

Or at least use the usual first verse up to the fluttertone and then "Great Shape", and then go crazy with the rest. I bed you'd do an awesome job!

I'll tell u what man, it's been on my mind to tackle a stereo mix of H&V with Brian's original vocal. How cool would it be to hear the "3 score and 5" section in true stereo??
Right now I'm working on a true stereo mix of Cabinessence with the stereo track, stereo background vocals + lead vocal panned center.

:-D

Have another Stereo SMiLE Mini-Mix.   ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OB3FmZcG7w

Songs included are Child Is The Father Of The Man / The Old Master Painter / You Were My Sunshine

can we please have the isolated child vocals?

OH MY GOD. That's the best Child version I've ever heard. INCREDIBLE!!!

I actually miss the pounding piano in these...

It was slowed down before the vocals were added. What are you trying to do, pitch shift the track? That's not going to work. You need to slow it down as well.

Deary me!

:D  I AM FU*KING CRYING. THAT IS INCREDIBLE!!! PLEASE RELEASE ALL YOUR ISOLATIONS AND BITS SO I CAN BORROW SOME FOR MY MIX! I PROMISE I'LL CREDIT YOU!

Alright, i've calmed down... I'm ready to do my own mix now Haha :D Anyway, congrats on the incredible achievement! please share your incredible "bits"!

Have u tried it?

Sounds like the same take, but maybe it's not.  The tracks are not in time, even when properly slowed down to the same key. (Not just pitch shifted...)

Thanks bro, glad you liked the mix.


Haha, why would I do that?

That's the fun of doing this! Being your own little mad scientist Brian Wilson, trying to find ways to make the music work together.

On another note, this stuff takes forever. (After a few hours of tedious work I'm halfway thru verse 1 of Cabinessence, for example. and it's sounding amazing btw..)
I'd feel weird putting out the isolations before I make my "official" fan mix of the album, which is inevitable at this point. Not to mention, I'd consider where they're at right now "works in progress".

Here's to hoping I'm not coming off like a douche, and I truly hope you'll continue to check out my mixes!

SMiLE people.  :3d

I want my official stereo mixes.  Their excuses were pretty weak with the things that can be done digitally nowadays.  No hurry i suppose, i'd like if they did an isolated barnyard too.  in five years or whatever just have a smile mono/stereo thing like pet sounds.

I think I read somewhere here that the master take was snipped off the reel - so what the box presents is the take before.

Ahhh, ok. That makes sense.

It's amazing how similar the included take is to the final take, nuance-wise.

Isn't that master take on Secret Smile somewhere? I think I remember an additional instrument there, like a guitar strumming in the 2nd and 4th verse? Maybe I'm hallucinating or there's some weird echo or something.

Totally. I remember the real instrumental making the bootleg rounds. I wonder if certain final takes were kept off the set to prevent us from making stereo versions. Probably reading too much into it. lol