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Title: "Our Prayer" (Giggle Version) Post by: P.J. on November 08, 2011, 04:59:03 PM I have a question about the version of "Our Prayer" that ends with the boys giggling (found as one of the versions on the Vigotone boot). How did this version come about? Is it from the September 19th or October 4th session? Is it just an alternate mix of the version we know and love?
Title: Re: \ Post by: The Demon on November 08, 2011, 05:03:46 PM Not sure, but I think Smile should end with the brief "Prayer" reprise WITH giggle.
Title: Re: \ Post by: Jason on November 08, 2011, 05:22:57 PM I have a question about the version of "Our Prayer" that ends with the boys giggling (found as one of the versions on the Vigotone boot). How did this version come about? Is it from the September 19th or October 4th session? Is it just an alternate mix of the version we know and love? That's actually from the overdub sessions on 11/17/68. Title: Re: \ Post by: P.J. on November 08, 2011, 05:24:25 PM I have a question about the version of "Our Prayer" that ends with the boys giggling (found as one of the versions on the Vigotone boot). How did this version come about? Is it from the September 19th or October 4th session? Is it just an alternate mix of the version we know and love? That's actually from the overdub sessions on 11/17/68. Really? Wow. Huh. Did not know that. Thanks! Title: Re: \ Post by: onkster on November 08, 2011, 06:01:08 PM I remember the version on Smile #2 (vinyl) being short a few seconds--it cut the "ahhh" section right before the "hmmmm" at the end.
Is there a story behind this? Was this a "real" edit at any point? Title: Re: \ Post by: Jason on November 08, 2011, 06:40:20 PM That is an edit of Brian's, from his December 1966 compilation tape. Seven selections on the tape in total.
Title: Re: \ Post by: Paul2010 on November 09, 2011, 12:23:36 AM That is an edit of Brian's, from his December 1966 compilation tape. Seven selections on the tape in total. I believe DYLW was on that tape as well, and edited just like BWPS and TSS (without the second part of the Bicycle Rider fade) if I remember correctly. Maybe vintage evidence for this structure? Title: Re: \ Post by: Barnshine on November 09, 2011, 03:59:40 AM That is an edit of Brian's, from his December 1966 compilation tape. Seven selections on the tape in total. I believe DYLW was on that tape as well, and edited just like BWPS and TSS (without the second part of the Bicycle Rider fade) if I remember correctly. Maybe vintage evidence for this structure? Yes it was, but it did have the fade. Otherwise the same, structure wise, but with no "Bicycle Rider" vocals. Title: Re: \ Post by: Paul2010 on November 09, 2011, 04:12:44 AM That is an edit of Brian's, from his December 1966 compilation tape. Seven selections on the tape in total. I believe DYLW was on that tape as well, and edited just like BWPS and TSS (without the second part of the Bicycle Rider fade) if I remember correctly. Maybe vintage evidence for this structure? Yes it was, but it did have the fade. Otherwise the same, structure wise, but with no "Bicycle Rider" vocals. It has the fade, but the tracks stops afte the 'pause' within the fade, just like BWPS and TSS CD 1, where the GV Box Setruns longer. Title: Re: \ Post by: rattfink on November 15, 2011, 07:48:41 AM That is an edit of Brian's, from his December 1966 compilation tape. Seven selections on the tape in total. Did this tape circulate amongst traders ever? It does not appear anywhere that I can see (although neither do the Prokopy's tapes for that matter). It's awesome that it is so easy to find SoT, Vigotone, fan mixes, etc. in the "digital age", but there is a certain nostalgia I find in the old word of mouth/ cassette/ US Mail days that I prefer. Title: Re: \ Post by: Wrightfan on November 15, 2011, 11:17:17 AM That is an edit of Brian's, from his December 1966 compilation tape. Seven selections on the tape in total. Did this tape circulate amongst traders ever? It does not appear anywhere that I can see (although neither do the Prokopy's tapes for that matter). It's awesome that it is so easy to find SoT, Vigotone, fan mixes, etc. in the "digital age", but there is a certain nostalgia I find in the old word of mouth/ cassette/ US Mail days that I prefer. Isn't this the one that's on Secret Smile? Title: Re: \ Post by: Jason on November 15, 2011, 11:52:50 AM That is an edit of Brian's, from his December 1966 compilation tape. Seven selections on the tape in total. Did this tape circulate amongst traders ever? It does not appear anywhere that I can see (although neither do the Prokopy's tapes for that matter). It's awesome that it is so easy to find SoT, Vigotone, fan mixes, etc. in the "digital age", but there is a certain nostalgia I find in the old word of mouth/ cassette/ US Mail days that I prefer. It does circulate. Title: Re: \ Post by: rattfink on November 15, 2011, 01:13:52 PM That is an edit of Brian's, from his December 1966 compilation tape. Seven selections on the tape in total. Did this tape circulate amongst traders ever? It does not appear anywhere that I can see (although neither do the Prokopy's tapes for that matter). It's awesome that it is so easy to find SoT, Vigotone, fan mixes, etc. in the "digital age", but there is a certain nostalgia I find in the old word of mouth/ cassette/ US Mail days that I prefer. It does circulate. If one were to parse this together from available sources, is this how it would look? Our Prayer Alternate mono mix with cuts (mono) (0:58)- Vigo Wonderful 1966 mono mix (mono) (2:09)- Vigo Wind Chimes 1966 mono mix (mono) (2:22)- Vigo CIFOTM Bridge, unknown take (mono) (0:50) - Secret Smile CE Verse/chorus/tag vocal overdub (mono) (2:25) – Secret Smile CIFOTM 2nd acetate mix (mono) (1:41)- Vigo DYLW Parts 1-4, mono mix, from acetate (mono) (3:36)- Vigo CE Chorus/tag vocal overdub (mono) (1:46)- Secret Smile Title: Re: \ Post by: Jason on November 15, 2011, 02:40:54 PM Yes, on all counts - except that the second version of CIFOTM on the Vigotone 2-CD set is actually the same thing as the two CIFOTM selections on the comp tape, just with dead space edited out and the sections reversed. Wind Chimes is not on the comp tape.
This is the contents of the December 1966 tape - Our Prayer Wonderful Cabin Essence verse/chorus/tag Cabin Essence chorus/tag Child Is Father of the Man verse/chorus Child Is Father of the Man bridge Do You Like Worms mono assembly - note the different vocals in part 3 |