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Title: Rough credits for CD1
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on November 07, 2011, 06:52:02 AM
Unless stated otherwise, the studio was Western. Please feel free to add, correct and generally improve. It could use it.

1. Our Prayer (1:06) – recorded 10/4/66 (Columbia)

2. Gee (0:51) – recorded 2/20/67 (Columbia)

3. Heroes And Villains (4:53) - oh, geez, a whole bunch of times...

4. Do You Like Worms (Roll Plymouth Rock) (3:36) – recorded 10/18/66 & 12/21/66 (Columbia)

5. I’m In Great Shape (0:29) – recorded 10/27/66, flown in vocal 11/4/66

6. Barnyard (0:48) – recorded 10/20/66, flown in vocal 11/4/66

7. My Only Sunshine (The Old Master Painter / You Are My Sunshine) (1:57) – recorded 11/14/66 & 2/10/67 (both Gold Star)

8. Cabin Essence (3:32) – recorded 10/3/66 (Gold Star), 10/11/66, 12/6/66 & 12/27/66 (all Columbia), Carl & Dennis’ vocals recorded fall 1968

9. Wonderful (2:04) – recorded 8/25/66, 10/6/66  & 12/15/66 (Columbia)

10. Look (Song For Children) (2:31) – recorded 8/12/66, flown in vocals summer 1971 (home studio)

11. Child Is Father Of The Man (2:14) – recorded 10/7/66, 10/11/66, 10/12/66 (Columbia), 12/2/66 (Columbia) & 12/6/66 (Columbia)

12. Surf’s Up (4:12) – recorded 11/4/66, 11/7/66  & 12/15/66 (Columbia), flown in vocals 12/15/66 (Columbia) & summer 1971 (home studio)

13. I Wanna Be Around / Workshop (1:23) – recorded 11/29/66 (Gold Star)

14. Vega-Tables (3:49) - lotsa times

15. Holidays (2:33) – recorded 9/8/66, flown in vocals 7/10/67 (home studio)

16. Wind Chimes (3:06) – recorded 8/3/66 (Gold Star), 10/5/66  & 10/10/66 (Columbia)

17. The Elements: Fire (Mrs. O’Leary’s Cow) (2:35) – recorded 11/28/66 (Gold Star), flown in vocals 6/29/67 (home studio)

18. Love To Say Dada (2:32) – recorded 5/16/67, 5/17/67 & 5/18/67 (all Gold Star), Carl’s flown in vocal 10/29/67 (Wally Heider)

19. Good Vibrations (4:13) - here, there and everywhere


Title: Re: Rough credits for CD1
Post by: runnersdialzero on November 07, 2011, 07:05:43 AM
Isn't the lead on "Surf's Up" technically a fly-in?


Title: Re: Rough credits for CD1
Post by: Austin on November 07, 2011, 07:11:09 AM
"Rough"? I like 'em.

I mean, accuracy is important too, but "Oh, geez, a whole bunch of times..." is just the right amount of sass for the liner notes in the next compilation.  ;)


Title: Re: Rough credits for CD1
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on November 07, 2011, 07:13:16 AM
Isn't the lead on "Surf's Up" technically a fly-in?

Good spot. Thanks.


Title: Re: Rough credits for CD1
Post by: grillo on November 07, 2011, 07:28:44 AM
Dennis' s vocal on cabinessence is from the 20/20 sessions?! I thought that was from the original SMiLE version...


Title: Re: Rough credits for CD1
Post by: rab2591 on November 07, 2011, 07:49:30 AM
So were the flown in vocals on 'Look' from the '71 'Surf's Up'?


Title: Re: Rough credits for CD1
Post by: P.J. on November 07, 2011, 08:58:57 AM
So were the flown in vocals on 'Look' from the '71 'Surf's Up'?
Yeah, I think it's in the box notes... let me look it up...

Quote
Vocals appearing on SMiLE album assembly (CD1 Track 10) recorded at Brian Wilson's Bel Air Home Studio, Summer 1971
Engineer: Steve Desper

Vocal: Carl


Title: Re: Rough credits for CD1
Post by: P.J. on November 07, 2011, 10:49:13 AM
18. Love To Say Dada (2:32) – recorded 5/16/67, 5/17/67 & 5/18/67 (all Gold Star), Carl’s flown in vocal 10/29/67 (Wally Heider)

Quick question: what about the "Water Chant"? Has any possible date been put to that recording? Was it even recorded during the Smile sessions (as apposed to a little after, like "Cool, Cool Water")?


Title: Re: Rough credits for CD1
Post by: Matt Bielewicz on November 07, 2011, 11:01:44 AM
That's dealt with in the Sessionography as well, unless I'm mistaken... hold on [sound of retreating footsteps, and turning of pages, then silence]

[sound of returning footsteps]

Right, got it.

"Cool, Cool Water Chant
(appears as intro to Track 18 on CD 1)
Vocals: Brian, Dennis, Carl, Mike, Al, Bruce
Track, Overdubs & Vocals recorded at Brian Wilson's Bel Air Home Studio, Thursday October 26, 1967, 1:00pm-4:00pm
Additional vocals recorded at Wally Heider Studio 3, Sunday October 29, 1967, times unknown
Engineer: Jim Lockert
2nd Engineer: Bill Halverson
No take slated / Master # 58583
Recorded on 1" 8-track tape"

So, yes: it's a Wild Honey-era recording!!!!

How d'ya like THEM Apples????

MattB


Title: Re: Rough credits for CD1
Post by: Bicyclerider on November 07, 2011, 11:02:09 AM
18. Love To Say Dada (2:32) – recorded 5/16/67, 5/17/67 & 5/18/67 (all Gold Star), Carl’s flown in vocal 10/29/67 (Wally Heider)

Quick question: what about the "Water Chant"? Has any possible date been put to that recording? Was it even recorded during the Smile sessions (as apposed to a little after, like "Cool, Cool Water")?

another question:  do we know what was recorded 5/18?  I thought the tapes we've heard thus far were 5/16 (the GV box set version) and 5/17 ("Part 2, day 2"J) - the "bird noises" version.


Title: Re: Rough credits for CD1
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on November 07, 2011, 11:03:45 AM
18. Love To Say Dada (2:32) – recorded 5/16/67, 5/17/67 & 5/18/67 (all Gold Star), Carl’s flown in vocal 10/29/67 (Wally Heider)

Quick question: what about the "Water Chant"? Has any possible date been put to that recording? Was it even recorded during the Smile sessions (as apposed to a little after, like "Cool, Cool Water")?

The intro to CD1/18 is the 'water' chant, also recorded 10/29/67.


Title: Re: Rough credits for CD1
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on November 07, 2011, 11:04:58 AM
18. Love To Say Dada (2:32) – recorded 5/16/67, 5/17/67 & 5/18/67 (all Gold Star), Carl’s flown in vocal 10/29/67 (Wally Heider)

Quick question: what about the "Water Chant"? Has any possible date been put to that recording? Was it even recorded during the Smile sessions (as apposed to a little after, like "Cool, Cool Water")?

another question:  do we know what was recorded 5/18?  I thought the tapes we've heard thus far were 5/16 (the GV box set version) and 5/17 ("Part 2, day 2"J) - the "bird noises" version.

CD4/13


Title: Re: Rough credits for CD1
Post by: Matt Bielewicz on November 07, 2011, 11:08:16 AM
[The sound of more booklet pages turning is heard]

Bicyclerider's question is also answered in the Sessionography. According to that, the first day on LTSDD was May 16th, the 'Part 2 Second Day!!!!!' stuff with bird noises was begun on May 17th, and work *continued* on that track in some way on May 18th.

The May 19th session was then cancelled, but I think that's been known a while, right?

MattB

EDIT: dang, 'Quick-draw' AGD has beaten me to it this time...!


Title: Re: Rough credits for CD1
Post by: P.J. on November 07, 2011, 11:11:53 AM
That's dealt with in the Sessionography as well, unless I'm mistaken... hold on [sound of retreating footsteps, and turning of pages, then silence]

[sound of returning footsteps]

Right, got it.

"Cool, Cool Water Chant
(appears as intro to Track 18 on CD 1)
Vocals: Brian, Dennis, Carl, Mike, Al, Bruce
Track, Overdubs & Vocals recorded at Brian Wilson's Bel Air Home Studio, Thursday October 26, 1967, 1:00pm-4:00pm
Additional vocals recorded at Wally Heider Studio 3, Sunday October 29, 1967, times unknown
Engineer: Jim Lockert
2nd Engineer: Bill Halverson
No take slated / Master # 58583
Recorded on 1" 8-track tape"

So, yes: it's a Wild Honey-era recording!!!!

How d'ya like THEM Apples????

MattB

AH!!! Missed that in my read through!!! Thanks! So... "Cool Cool Water Chant" is off my mix for a Pre-Dada-Sessions-Only Smile Mix


Title: Re: Rough credits for CD1
Post by: Jeff on November 07, 2011, 01:06:35 PM
Unless stated otherwise, the studio was Western. Please feel free to add, correct and generally improve. It could use it.

1. Our Prayer (1:06) – recorded 10/4/66 (Columbia)


Nothing from the 20/20 sessions?


Title: Re: Rough credits for CD1
Post by: 37!ws on November 07, 2011, 01:18:23 PM
Nope; I certainly don't hear the extra vocals. There's a really high F note at the end that gives it away, but it's not anywhere to be heard on the box.


Title: Re: Rough credits for CD1
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on November 07, 2011, 02:03:30 PM
Unless stated otherwise, the studio was Western. Please feel free to add, correct and generally improve. It could use it.

1. Our Prayer (1:06) – recorded 10/4/66 (Columbia)


Nothing from the 20/20 sessions?

No.


Title: Re: Rough credits for CD1
Post by: harrisonjon on November 07, 2011, 02:27:37 PM
How many of the 19 tracks utilize material from boots?


Title: Re: Rough credits for CD1
Post by: Camus on November 07, 2011, 04:29:05 PM
The extra vocals in Child Is Father of the Man, are they contemporary Smile recordings?  I thought they were fly ins from 1971.


Title: Re: Rough credits for CD1
Post by: Chris Brown on November 07, 2011, 07:38:01 PM
The extra vocals in Child Is Father of the Man, are they contemporary Smile recordings?  I thought they were fly ins from 1971.

That last chorus is from an acetate, thus most definitely not fly ins.


Title: Re: Rough credits for CD1
Post by: Camus on November 07, 2011, 08:23:56 PM
The extra vocals in Child Is Father of the Man, are they contemporary Smile recordings?  I thought they were fly ins from 1971.

That last chorus is from an acetate, thus most definitely not fly ins.

Interesting, I see where Carl got the vocal arrangement for the tag of Surf's Up then.


Title: Re: Rough credits for CD1
Post by: Aegir on November 07, 2011, 09:08:32 PM
Mike's vocal on Cabin Essence was recorded in '66? I wonder why that part of the "lead" was recorded then but not the verse vocals.


Title: Re: Rough credits for CD1
Post by: runnersdialzero on November 07, 2011, 09:17:52 PM
I wonder why that part of the "lead" was recorded then but not the verse vocals.

Another working title for TSS imo.