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Title: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: SMiLE-Holland on November 01, 2011, 03:22:17 AM
Feel free to discuss the SMiLE Sessions Box Set as a whole; packaging, presentation, and booklet.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: punkinhead on November 01, 2011, 06:09:38 AM
Thanks for posting this! I wanna hear every detail.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: desmondo on November 01, 2011, 07:14:12 AM
I have to say the iTunes LP version is stunning - all the FH artwork lyrics, timeline etc bought to life through animation


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: punkinhead on November 01, 2011, 07:58:40 AM
I have to say the iTunes LP version is stunning - all the FH artwork lyrics, timeline etc bought to life through animation
really? I'm assuming I have to buy to see?


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Tune X on November 01, 2011, 03:07:09 PM
Very pleased with the packaging, and it's especially nice to have a copy of the original booklet with Frank's artwork. Very pleased with the informative book as well. Vinyl is dead quiet. My only gripe is that the labels are wayyy off center--even moreso than on my old capitol LPs  :lol


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Wrightfan on November 01, 2011, 03:52:32 PM
Beautiful. Pictures can't do it justice.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: joshferrell on November 01, 2011, 03:57:48 PM
the packaging (for the two disc set) is cool..I just wish they had more songs on the second disc since there is about 15 minutes left on it that could have been used ..oh well..


Title: It's beautiful
Post by: WaxOn on November 01, 2011, 04:57:53 PM
The full box set (CD's, vinyl etc.) is breathtaking. I'm still working my way up to pulling off the shrink wrap - a few more things to do before the day ends.

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e298/slidetek/smile_3d.jpg)

It's 3D and just gorgeous. Coolest box set on the planet. I had no idea it would look like that light up version Brian is showing off.

Oh well, the tubes are warming up for a long evening!


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Chris Brown on November 01, 2011, 07:47:18 PM
By far the best box set packaging I've ever seen - the 60 page hardcover book is wonderful, with some awesome color photos.  The 45s and LP look perfectly authentic, and I love that they included the original album booklet.  Can't rave enough about the packaging from an aesthetics standpoint.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: TV Forces on November 01, 2011, 08:09:03 PM
Agreed.  Can't say enough about the packaging.
The box looks like a million bucks.

My only gripes involve no backing vocals on the fly-in-less "Barnyard," no instrumental "TOMS/YAMS," not much in the way of "With me Tonight" sessions.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: monicker on November 02, 2011, 01:23:15 AM
This is, by far, the most amazing packaging/artwork i have ever seen for any sort of album/box set release. It's brilliant work. Really, really top notch stuff. It's weird but wonderful that it would be coming at what seems to be the end of the CD era. If the audio portion of the box set had been given the same treatment and care that the packaging received, this would be an absolutely perfect release beyond belief.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: P.J. on November 02, 2011, 07:22:52 AM
My only gripes involve no backing vocals on the fly-in-less "Barnyard," no instrumental "TOMS/YAMS," not much in the way of "With me Tonight" sessions.

Agreed.

Take a look at the writing credits. A couple of new names also a mention to Euday Bowman for the "12th St. Rag".

The lyrics to "He Gives Speeches" is given credit to Brian.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Dr. Tim on November 02, 2011, 07:49:20 AM
Also posted in the main board.  What I am telling my musician friends: this is more fun than I was expecting.  The "reconstruction" of the Smile LP is astoundingly well done and the cleaned-up tracks never sounded better.  As we know there are some "Free As a Bird" artifacts where things were obviously flown in and pasted (vocal for I'm In Great Shape, the coda to Surf's Up from the 1971 completion, hum-be-dums in GV).  Some holes remain (i.e., where there were no lyrics or vocals done for "Do You Like Worms", "Holidays" and "Child").  So it is clearly unfinished but has the "sheen" of a finished structure, that can be played all the way through.  The reassembled "Heroes and Villains", "Wind Chimes"  and "Vegetables" stand out as audio alchemy at its best. 

I know some of the scholar types here are wringing their hands at seeing the "duct-taped" parts of the assembly, but at least the thing is a presentable listen, which is the whole point.  And Mark and Alan did figure out how to cover that one-beat dead space in the "Wind Chimes" transition: cover the hole with plate reverb!  Corny but effective.  Also a very "what would Brian do?" move.

Package is fun too, interesting there is still a little tension there in the Boys' comments (Mike's a bit defensive, understandably).  For those who've bought Frank Holmes' LP slick from him, your print is still a treasure.  None of the full-size reprints mimic it exactly, with the duo-phonic stamp, intstead their newly-minted "New Improved Full Dimensional Sound" logo ("sound" instead of "stereo").

The 2-LP vinyl has some nice surprises: I like the really good stereo mixes of H&V and Vegetables, and on the one 45 a stunning reassembly of the "alternate" version of Heroes and Villains, with the "three score and five" lines and the instrumental fade.  As far as I can tell this is a recreation of how the fabled "H&V Part I and Part II" single might have turned out.  It is the same version included in the 1993 box set but they got a much better source for it.

The session track CDs are a longer slog, only getting started on those. Though the vocal rehearsals and runthroughs  are fun (Brian saying "you feel the acid kick in?" before "Our Prayer").


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: desmondo on November 02, 2011, 08:58:08 AM
I have to say the iTunes LP version is stunning - all the FH artwork lyrics, timeline etc bought to life through animation
really? I'm assuming I have to buy to see?

Its on YouTube - on the Beach Boys site

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElVmW7P7Hq0&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: punkinhead on November 02, 2011, 11:24:19 AM
I have to say the iTunes LP version is stunning - all the FH artwork lyrics, timeline etc bought to life through animation
really? I'm assuming I have to buy to see?

Its on YouTube - on the Beach Boys site

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElVmW7P7Hq0&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
yeah, i just found it earlier...looks amazing...unforunately, prolly won't get it...this should be on DVD-A if it was still popular


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: donald on November 02, 2011, 12:30:32 PM
The credits and mentions  are nice.  Susan Lang, Greg Larson, AGD, Bob, and so many others were remembered.

Very nice and cool to connect with the fan base and support network so personally.

A class gesture.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Mr. Cohen on November 03, 2011, 12:03:49 AM
Quote
And Mark and Alan did figure out how to cover that one-beat dead space in the "Wind Chimes" transition: cover the hole with plate reverb!  Corny but effective.  Also a very "what would Brian do?" move.

Yeah , but those dead stops were how Brian worked at the time. In fact, they played integral parts in the construction of the "Good Vibrations" and "Heroes & Villains" singles. I don't see why they needed to be covered, unless Brian said that's how he wanted it.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Jay on November 05, 2011, 12:59:52 AM
Without having actually listened to the cd's(yet), I'm going to go ahead and say that this is probably the best music box set ever released. The 3D box is one of the most unique things I've ever seen. ;D The book with the original artwork is amazing. The detail of the track by track session guide is mind numbing. I got a headache just reading it.  ;D My eternal thank you's and devotion to whoever was in charge of sorting through all that session information. God's among men.  8) Actually, the detail given to the entire package is phenomenal. One get's the distinct impression that this has secretly been in the planning for years. I have a few quick questions, if I may:

1. When I opened the 3D box lid I saw on the inside the well known picture of the group without Brian, but with Bruce, and the various song titles. Is this an LP? I ask because there was already one in the package that was loose. Were there supposed to be two? If it is one of the LP's, I have no idea how to get it loose from the inside lid. It's really packed in tight. I could pry it out by sticking my finger way down in, but I would most likely ruin the box. Any thoughts, suggestions, etc?

2. I assume that the paper with the track list and picture of the box contents is supposed to work as the back cover? The bottom is folded over, so I can just tuck it in tightly, but then the top part is loose. Should it be put inside the box? I'm not going to tape or glue it if I don't have to.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: GeorgeFellInHisHorn on November 05, 2011, 08:01:45 AM
Without having actually listened to the cd's(yet), I'm going to go ahead and say that this is probably the best music box set ever released. The 3D box is one of the most unique things I've ever seen. ;D The book with the original artwork is amazing. The detail of the track by track session guide is mind numbing. I got a headache just reading it.  ;D My eternal thank you's and devotion to whoever was in charge of sorting through all that session information. God's among men.  8) Actually, the detail given to the entire package is phenomenal. One get's the distinct impression that this has secretly been in the planning for years. I have a few quick questions, if I may:

1. When I opened the 3D box lid I saw on the inside the well known picture of the group without Brian, but with Bruce, and the various song titles. Is this an LP? I ask because there was already one in the package that was loose. Were there supposed to be two? If it is one of the LP's, I have no idea how to get it loose from the inside lid. It's really packed in tight. I could pry it out by sticking my finger way down in, but I would most likely ruin the box. Any thoughts, suggestions, etc?

2. I assume that the paper with the track list and picture of the box contents is supposed to work as the back cover? The bottom is folded over, so I can just tuck it in tightly, but then the top part is loose. Should it be put inside the box? I'm not going to tape or glue it if I don't have to.


The inside of the lid of the box is just a "for-fun" exact reprint of the abandoned back sleeve. Notice how it mentions being "Duophonic", while the actual LP sleeve says Monophonic.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: hypehat on November 05, 2011, 08:03:34 AM
Jesus, jay, don't do it! It's just a reprint!!!!


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: c-man on November 05, 2011, 08:48:10 AM
Without having actually listened to the cd's(yet), I'm going to go ahead and say that this is probably the best music box set ever released. The 3D box is one of the most unique things I've ever seen. ;D The book with the original artwork is amazing. The detail of the track by track session guide is mind numbing. I got a headache just reading it.  ;D My eternal thank you's and devotion to whoever was in charge of sorting through all that session information. God's among men.  8) Actually, the detail given to the entire package is phenomenal. One get's the distinct impression that this has secretly been in the planning for years. I have a few quick questions, if I may:

1. When I opened the 3D box lid I saw on the inside the well known picture of the group without Brian, but with Bruce, and the various song titles. Is this an LP? I ask because there was already one in the package that was loose. Were there supposed to be two? If it is one of the LP's, I have no idea how to get it loose from the inside lid. It's really packed in tight. I could pry it out by sticking my finger way down in, but I would most likely ruin the box. Any thoughts, suggestions, etc?

2. I assume that the paper with the track list and picture of the box contents is supposed to work as the back cover? The bottom is folded over, so I can just tuck it in tightly, but then the top part is loose. Should it be put inside the box? I'm not going to tape or glue it if I don't have to.

Jay,
It was my honor that the job of sorting all that session information was given to me, and I achieved that monumental task with a lot of help and guidance from Mr. Boyd.  I only wish I'd gotten the "Tag vocals" credit in for the first version of "Wind Chimes" (a mere oversight...but at least I got the recording info for that vocal session in there!).  Was the whole package years in the planning?  Well I can only speak for sure to my involvement in it, but it was months not years.  Really, Tom Recchion at Capitol's art department deserves a HUGE defeaning round of applause for the visual presentation, as much applause as Mark and Alan rightly deserve for the audio components.  These guys are heroes, as is Capitol's Director of Catalog A&R, Dennis Wolfe.  Quite a team.  It helped that Alan, Tom and Dennis are all musicians themselves, and Mark an independent music producer/engineer, so it wasn't just a bunch of "suits" behind the project. 

To answer your questions about the packaging: 
1. The front and back artwork in the box lid are supposed to remain there, so don't mess with it.  :)
2.  Lots of box sets (Fleetwood Mac's 1992 box, John Lennon's 1998 and 2010 boxes) come with outer wrapping that's not really designed to fit inside the box, but it should be saved & kept somewhere handy since it's a cool external inventory of the contents.

Really, aside from my one little sessionography omission (which bothers me to no small degree), I think the whole package is positively sterling, and I'm glad to see that so many of you think so as well!  I'm guessing this will be cherished by music fans for ages to come.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: aeijtzsche on November 05, 2011, 09:03:30 AM
Since you're here, Craig, we should congratulate you for the Sessionography.  That certainly will be THE reference for some time to come.  It is nice to know that they involved you, somebody who has put in the time not only looking at paperwork, but listening to the sessions over and over again.  I can't say I don't disagree with a couple of "instruments used" on a few of the sessions, but that's OK.  The Pet Sounds credits kept evolving over the years, actually getting worse as time went on and bad memories contributed to strange results (Like saying there was a bowed string bass on That's Not Me, e.g.)  All problems like that were solved for Smile by going to THE expert, a consummate pro, our own C-man.  I will have that sessionography at hand at all times for quick reference.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: c-man on November 05, 2011, 09:10:09 AM
Since you're here, Craig, we should congratulate you for the Sessionography.  That certainly will be THE reference for some time to come.  It is nice to know that they involved you, somebody who has put in the time not only looking at paperwork, but listening to the sessions over and over again.  I can't say I don't disagree with a couple of "instruments used" on a few of the sessions, but that's OK.  The Pet Sounds credits kept evolving over the years, actually getting worse as time went on and bad memories contributed to strange results (Like saying there was a bowed string bass on That's Not Me, e.g.)  All problems like that were solved for Smile by going to THE expert, a consummate pro, our own C-man.  I will have that sessionography at hand at all times for quick reference.

Thanks Josh, that means a lot coming from someone such as you, whose own research and study of the available sources I hold in deep respect.  I'm not opposed to discussing some of the "instruments used" decisions we came to, so feel free to post your own conclusions here for me to respond to.  This kind of discussion if highly enjoyable to me, and a few others I'm sure!


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Jonas on November 05, 2011, 09:39:34 AM
I can't say I don't disagree with a couple of "instruments used" on a few of the sessions, but that's OK

You would....

JK!

Congrats Craig! :)


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Micha on November 05, 2011, 09:40:46 AM
The box looks so good I'm using it as a permanent deco element. Like a 3D poster.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: aeijtzsche on November 05, 2011, 10:35:29 AM
Since you're here, Craig, we should congratulate you for the Sessionography.  That certainly will be THE reference for some time to come.  It is nice to know that they involved you, somebody who has put in the time not only looking at paperwork, but listening to the sessions over and over again.  I can't say I don't disagree with a couple of "instruments used" on a few of the sessions, but that's OK.  The Pet Sounds credits kept evolving over the years, actually getting worse as time went on and bad memories contributed to strange results (Like saying there was a bowed string bass on That's Not Me, e.g.)  All problems like that were solved for Smile by going to THE expert, a consummate pro, our own C-man.  I will have that sessionography at hand at all times for quick reference.

Thanks Josh, that means a lot coming from someone such as you, whose own research and study of the available sources I hold in deep respect.  I'm not opposed to discussing some of the "instruments used" decisions we came to, so feel free to post your own conclusions here for me to respond to.  This kind of discussion if highly enjoyable to me, and a few others I'm sure!

Craig, I'll definitely post a few thoughts soon, after I've re-gotten by bearings.  Discussing such matters brings us as close to being at the session as possible, so discussions on that sort of thing are always welcome for me.  With this new footage, my mental movie of some of the many sessions might have to change!


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Dr. Tim on November 05, 2011, 03:07:51 PM
I also posted this in the main TSS Box thread, but a nice detail to add here too:

Chris Bellman, who did the vinyl mastering, wrote the following little messages in the dead wax at the end of each LP side:
side 1: "Dumb Angel"
side 2: "For Carl & Dennis"
side 3: "Look, listen, vibrate"
side 4: "For Chuck and Larry"  (Chuck Britz and Larry Levine)

No messages on the 45's, though.  Correction: Dan Lega reports there are.  Huh!
                            


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Jay on November 05, 2011, 09:47:15 PM
thanks everybody for the help answering my questions.  :)


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Jay on November 05, 2011, 09:58:19 PM
I just have to say again how amazed I am at the sessionography. There was one session(I forget whch one at the moment) that mentioned that at one point Al and Brian traded their positions when recording vocals. I'm not quite sure if it meant that they switched vocals parts, or where they were actually standing, but if it's the latter, then I'm totally floored at the attention to minute detail such as that.  :o The "Workshop" sessionography section was very cool too. Heck, I wouldn't even know the proper name for some of the "instruments"(i.e., tools) used.  :lol


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: The Demon on November 06, 2011, 07:18:00 AM
I just have to say again how amazed I am at the sessionography. There was one session(I forget whch one at the moment) that mentioned that at one point Al and Brian traded their positions when recording vocals. I'm not quite sure if it meant that they switched vocals parts, or where they were actually standing, but if it's the latter, then I'm totally floored at the attention to minute detail such as that. 

Can't remember the tune...I want to say it was "Heroes," "Vega-Tables," or "Dada," but I think they said Al was in the control room and came out to the booth to switch places with Brian.


I love the booklet.  I think the sessionography is extremely helpful and I enjoyed the anecdotes and band members' thoughts.  I only wish they had printed lyrics which hadn't been recorded and specified what was written versus what was recorded (it seems weird to print lyrics to "Look"...it could've been explained if Brian really wanted that at the time or made the decision later...so something going over the evolution of the writing, and not just the recording, would've been helpful).  I also wish they had interviewed Brian, asking him things like who he had in mind to sing certain tracks, if he had any track sequences in mind, etc.  He probably would've have been that open, but it's worth a try.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: c-man on November 06, 2011, 11:37:12 AM
I just have to say again how amazed I am at the sessionography. There was one session(I forget whch one at the moment) that mentioned that at one point Al and Brian traded their positions when recording vocals. I'm not quite sure if it meant that they switched vocals parts, or where they were actually standing, but if it's the latter, then I'm totally floored at the attention to minute detail such as that.  :o The "Workshop" sessionography section was very cool too. Heck, I wouldn't even know the proper name for some of the "instruments"(i.e., tools) used.  :lol

Jay, it was
15. Heroes And Villains: Whistling Bridge
Vocals: Carl, Brian, Dennis, Mike
Whistling: Brian, Dennis & Carl ?
Control room comments: Al Jardine (switched places
in the booth with Brian before the first official take)
Master is Take 12

"Booth" in this case meaning Control Booth, i.e. Al took Brian's spot in the producer's chair for the remainder of the session while Brian sang with the other Boys down on the studio floor.  I mentioned that to point out the reason why Al has a credit for "Control room comments' but not "vocals" on this one.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: beatfan63 on November 09, 2011, 12:12:11 PM
Did ANYBODY have a problem with delivery from AMAZON? Mine arrived a week later after putting in for RELEASE DAY DELIVERY. I pre-ordered in back in August. Sadly, the box had a dent in it and I had to get in touch with AMAZON for a replacement which is suppost to arrive today. Hopefully, ALL WILL BE WELL with this DELIVERY.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: pixletwin on November 09, 2011, 12:24:36 PM
Did ANYBODY have a problem with delivery from AMAZON? Mine arrived a week later after putting in for RELEASE DAY DELIVERY. I pre-ordered in back in August. Sadly, the box had a dent in it and I had to get in touch with AMAZON for a replacement which is suppost to arrive today. Hopefully, ALL WILL BE WELL with this DELIVERY.

I feared that would happen to me (past experience with on trac was disastrous) so I made sure I was constantly calling and bugging both amazon and on trac. Results were that I received it at 4:45 pm November 1st. I am positive that had I not bugged the hell outta them, I would be in the same boat as you.

Food for thought if you order from amazon in the future.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Jay on November 11, 2011, 11:27:26 PM
Was a button supposed to be included in all the box sets, or just on a special edition copy?


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on November 12, 2011, 01:17:21 AM
Was a button supposed to be included in all the box sets, or just on a special edition copy?

Only in the 2CD version.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on November 12, 2011, 01:19:41 AM
Interesting... I'm most reliably informed that although David Leaf isn'y listed in the credits of the box set book, he originally was.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Emdeeh on November 14, 2011, 04:04:07 PM
I have both the 5-CD and the 2-CD box sets, and they are beautiful!

My one and only complaint is that some of the interviews in the 80-page book could have used a little proofreading for typesetting style consistency. Overall a minor quibble in the big picture -- this is a project done big, done lovingly, and done well.

And now to something entirely different -- somewhere I saw photos of the single CD release, but I can't find them anywhere now. Could someone please post those pics here? Thanks!




Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Reverend Rock on November 14, 2011, 08:52:51 PM
I am so looking forward to getting the box set in December (when I have some year-end bonus money to blow).  Everything I'm reading about it sounds so very good.  And anyway, I'd just about have to buy it for a properly presented "Bag Of Tricks" if for nothing else in the world.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: tunestony on November 22, 2011, 08:58:01 AM
Part one of my SMiLE followup audio interview with co-producers Mark Linett & Alan Boyd has just been posted:

http://bit.ly/tPLJBu

In it, they talk about many of the questions that have been circulating around the 'net - including addressing the missing background vocals on "Barnyard," what, if any, tracks Brian nixed on the new set, how they assembled part two of "Heroes and Villains," and why there will never be a true stereo mix of "Good Vibrations." 

Part two will be posted in a week.

Also, we're giving away a copy of the 2-CD version of the SMiLE Sessions" - just "like" Icon Fetch on FB.

Enjoy,


Tony


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: runnersdialzero on November 22, 2011, 09:20:42 AM
He's clearly totally fucking lying about "Good Vibrations" not being able to be in stereo, as I have Audacity and I took two MP3s and made it into "glorious" stereo. What a total fucking liar. Things like "quality" (*rolls eyes*) shouldn't be an issue when everything can be in stereo.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: mammy blue on November 22, 2011, 10:13:38 AM
A homemade pseudo-stereo concoction and a professional, true stereo presentation are two entirely different things, no? Without the vocal multitracks, it would be a bit of a ruse to really call it a stereo GV.

If that was sarcasm, btw, please disregard.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: runnersdialzero on November 22, 2011, 10:28:41 AM

If that was sarcasm, btw, please disregard.

 :)


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: RadBooley on November 24, 2011, 09:19:44 PM
Just a random little issue I had with the box set: In the 3D cover of the box, the woman's head on my copy seems to be sort of bent (there's this crease on the neck and her head is facing down a bit). It doesn't seem to be like that for the guy behind the window. Just a random quirk in my set or are they all like that?


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: endofposts on November 27, 2011, 11:32:04 AM
Best Buy has the five CD boxed set on sale for less than $100 ($97 and change) for Cyber Monday.  It still seems a little too much for me on my budget, but if anyone was looking for a good deal before considering it, this is the best one I've seen yet.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: SufferingFools on December 27, 2011, 06:30:27 PM
Did anyone else receive the boxset from Amazon in a box with the ad saying "little card - BIG SMILE"?   :lol


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Rocker on January 06, 2012, 03:13:17 PM
I have to repeat all the compliments on this box. It's a fascinating piece of art starting with the artwork and ending - of course - with the music. Fantastic !
Congratulations also to "our boy" c-man. You did a splendid job and probably created the definitive word on the Smile sessions. I was very surprised and happy to see that the Beach Boys were far more often working on the tracks than has been asserted many times. They are all over H&V ! This just confirms imo my guess that Brian didn't use them more because for the simple reason that they were touring and not because they "weren't good enough". Of course studio musicians would've been needed on some songs even if the Beach Boys were there but all in all it was just a brilliant concept they had back then. The boys were touring and making the band more popular, present the music to the masses while Brian was in the studio cutting new tracks. That way it was possible to take away the stress from Brian - remember that at one time he had to tour, write, arrange and produce the tracks for 4 albums in one year ! - and still have a very steady outcome. It really was a brilliant principle. Unfortunately it didn't last long but for the time it lasted it added up phenomenally. And the fact that those 5 (!) guys had to re-create something like Good Vibrations or God Only Knows on stage and did so wonderfully just shows their talent and abilities.

Once again, thank you to all who are responsible fo this great boxset. It'll be very hard to beat this one.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: c-man on January 09, 2012, 09:30:26 AM
I have to repeat all the compliments on this box. It's a fascinating piece of art starting with the artwork and ending - of course - with the music. Fantastic !
Congratulations also to "our boy" c-man. You did a splendid job and probably created the definitive word on the Smile sessions. Once again, thank you to all who are responsible fo this great boxset. It'll be very hard to beat this one.

Thanks, Rocker.  I tell you, it was the experience of a lifetime, and quite a challenge, too, as most here might well imagine.  I had to deal with space restrictions, an ever-changing track lineup (which accounts for the discrepancy of track numbers in the final "Good Vibrations" sessions), the stated desire from the producers to have the overall sessionography order match the album template lineup, then within that order list multiple sessions for the same title chronologically, but always put the vocal credits at the top of each section, and find a place to fit in the bonus tracks (especially the Disc One bonus tracks, since the sessionography itself was to begin with the material on Disc Two).  My hat is eternally off to Tom Recchion, Dennis Wolfe, Mark Linett, and of course Alan Boyd, for giving me the opportunity & making it work in the end.  In retrospect, there's a couple of things that I could've done better, but hindsight is always 20/20, right?  :)


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: hypehat on January 20, 2012, 07:53:19 PM
Don't worry about it, c-man. It's a fantastic piece of work, and I have to catch myself sometimes when I look across my room and just see my SMiLE box. Thanks for being part of making it happen.  ;D


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: sidewinder572 on January 21, 2012, 06:24:48 PM
This is the greatest box set dedicated to a single album ever released. Hands down. It may be the fan boy in me speaking, but it's truly a thing of beauty. The packaging, the artwork, and of course the music inside. Just Vinyl, 7", CD's a book and a poster. No gimmicks likes scarves and phony backstage passes and sunglasses (I'm looking at you Pink Floyd and U2) In a year filled with box sets dedicated to single releases The Beach Boys trump them all. This is truly a treasure.

Oh yeah and one more thing. I already posted this over on the Hoffman board, but we all need to bow down to Chris Bellman for his incredible work on the vinyl. The CD sounds great but the vinyl leaves it in the dust. One of the best mono pressings I've heard. This and the Pet Sounds vinyl included with Carl and the Passion: So Tough are the top of the heap for mono pressings for me.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Micha on January 24, 2012, 03:05:10 AM
This is the greatest box set dedicated to a single album ever released. Hands down. It may be the fan boy in me speaking, but it's truly a thing of beauty. The packaging, the artwork, and of course the music inside. Just Vinyl, 7", CD's a book and a poster. No gimmicks likes scarves and phony backstage passes and sunglasses (I'm looking at you Pink Floyd and U2) In a year filled with box sets dedicated to single releases The Beach Boys trump them all. This is truly a treasure.

Oh yeah and one more thing. I already posted this over on the Hoffman board, but we all need to bow down to Chris Bellman for his incredible work on the vinyl. The CD sounds great but the vinyl leaves it in the dust.

Exactly! (That is, I could spare the poster... :wink)


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Dr. Tim on January 26, 2012, 08:24:07 PM
I for one am a big fan of the supplemental chart from a couple pages back, comparing the box set vinyl and CD incarnations.  That shows us the provenance of EVERY track, LP, 45, and CD, and even the 2011 Record Store Day 78's!  A really useful engine, as they say!!!

Copied it from here and keep it with my box set - AND SO SHOULD ALL OF YOU!!








Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: beatlebren66 on February 08, 2012, 05:50:00 PM
I have the box, so I don't have the button. Could someone please post a pic of the button ? I wasn't able to find a photo of it online. Thanks


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Roger Ryan on February 09, 2012, 05:35:46 AM
I have the box, so I don't have the button. Could someone please post a pic of the button ? I wasn't able to find a photo of it online. Thanks

Just to hold you over, the button is about 1 inch in diameter with "SMiLE" (same font and color as on album cover) over white. I wouldn't lose sleep over it.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: beatlebren66 on February 10, 2012, 02:06:08 PM
Two more questions....

1) Was the vinyl LP in the box supposed to be shrink wrapped ?

2) Mark Linett mentioned in his Icon Fetch interview that there is a extra fan made sessionography online for cd 1. Does anyone know where I can download that ?

Thanks





Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Disney Boy (1985) on March 06, 2012, 10:39:50 AM
My vinyl wasn't wrapped, only the cd's. I bought the 2 cd edition and the boxset just to make sure i got everything. To those curious as to the SMiLE button (or badge), surely if u can afford the big old stinkin' boxset then you can shell out a tenner for the 2-cd edition on top? Come on people, let's get those sales figures up!!!


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Paulos on March 07, 2012, 02:27:56 PM
The packaging for the box set is the best I have ever seen, it just looks brilliant. Then you open it up and find the CD/45 book with original press clippings and master tape reproductions, the book with great photos, anecdotes and Craig's lovingly done sessionography, then the photo booklet, then the 2LPs which just feel right in your hands and then you find the SMiLE poster too! I don't mind admitting that I actually hugged my box set when I first got it!


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: sidewinder572 on May 13, 2012, 04:53:01 AM
I just received my replacement for my light-up set and all I can say is WOW!!! this is so cool. Here are a few pics

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7093/7185933284_c60a4e547b_n.jpg)
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Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: punkinhead on May 14, 2012, 07:52:00 AM
The packaging for the box set is the best I have ever seen, it just looks brilliant. Then you open it up and find the CD/45 book with original press clippings and master tape reproductions, the book with great photos, anecdotes and Craig's lovingly done sessionography, then the photo booklet, then the 2LPs which just feel right in your hands and then you find the SMiLE poster too! I don't mind admitting that I actually hugged my box set when I first got it!


who didn't?


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: punkinhead on May 14, 2012, 07:52:29 AM
I just received my replacement for my light-up set and all I can say is WOW!!! this is so cool. Here are a few pics

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7093/7185933284_c60a4e547b_n.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8146/7185937676_0854acbb4e_n.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7218/7185942188_39cc95ff25_n.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8146/7185946506_f40046e328_n.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7216/7185951518_3da612464e_n.jpg)
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5334/7185955346_dd5844e10d_n.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8147/7185960394_4abaf3fc22_n.jpg)
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5326/7185963906_1b0bd26057_n.jpg)
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5336/7185967940_9c9caae260_n.jpg)
Where?


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: sidewinder572 on May 14, 2012, 11:28:09 AM
Where?


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: punkinhead on May 14, 2012, 11:49:00 AM
Where?
where are the pics? I don't see any.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: sidewinder572 on May 14, 2012, 11:55:41 AM
That's weird? I can see them. I'll have to upload again after work.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: myonlysunshine on May 14, 2012, 12:03:35 PM
That's weird? I can see them. I'll have to upload again after work.

I can see them too. The light up box looks fantastic! Almost makes me wish I splurged on it instead of the regular box.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: rattfink on October 23, 2013, 07:22:15 AM
I realize this reply is about two years late, but it still bothers me... I think that the folder that the five cds are housed in is a really poor design. While it certainly looks cool, three of the five cds had digital clicking on the last track (disc  four actually had clicking on the last five tracks!). In short, I spent $140 to get a damaged product! I was able to make de-clicked copies luckily, but I wish it didn't come to that! My theory is that the cds rub/scrape on the backing. Looks good, wrecks the cds. Not cool...


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Michael Edwards Love on October 23, 2013, 10:18:10 AM
I realize this reply is about two years late, but it still bothers me... I think that the folder that the five cds are housed in is a really poor design. While it certainly looks cool, three of the five cds had digital clicking on the last track (disc  four actually had clicking on the last five tracks!). In short, I spent $140 to get a damaged product! I was able to make de-clicked copies luckily, but I wish it didn't come to that! My theory is that the cds rub/scrape on the backing. Looks good, wrecks the cds. Not cool...

Same thing happened with mine.  I was pretty disappointed.  And I had the same problem with MIC, out of the wrapper.  The discs arrived out of the cardboard sleeve.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: rattfink on October 23, 2013, 11:03:33 AM
I decided to email Capitol. There email is writeus@hollywoodandvine.com if any one else has complaints that they would like to share.



Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Unreconstructed Wilsonite on October 24, 2013, 12:05:00 AM
Am I the only one who got the small version of the box set and not the full one because I couldn't afford it?


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: punkinhead on October 26, 2013, 09:03:17 PM
Two more questions....

1) Was the vinyl LP in the box supposed to be shrink wrapped ?

2) Mark Linett mentioned in his Icon Fetch interview that there is a extra fan made sessionography online for cd 1. Does anyone know where I can download that ?

Thanks

Having just got into podcasts, I'd heard Mark say that too. Anyone know where that sessionography is online?




Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Bill Tobelman on February 04, 2014, 05:38:18 PM
When I read the booklet the question always remains, "What's going on here? What's SMiLE really about?"

The essays sort of echo each other in not being able to really nail this question down.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: stikchikk on February 11, 2014, 03:07:37 AM
I only just realized that there is a mini box set as well as a full box set. Now I want the full box set!!!


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: slippingonthrough on April 03, 2014, 02:28:42 AM
Just got the Deluxe Box today. The 3d cover looks awesome! The sessionography is quite interesting to read. Now to listen to all 5 cds.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: slippingonthrough on April 04, 2014, 07:01:06 PM
I also posted this in the main TSS Box thread, but a nice detail to add here too:

Chris Bellman, who did the vinyl mastering, wrote the following little messages in the dead wax at the end of each LP side:
side 1: "Dumb Angel"
side 2: "For Carl & Dennis"
side 3: "Look, listen, vibrate"
side 4: "For Chuck and Larry"  (Chuck Britz and Larry Levine)

No messages on the 45's, though.  Correction: Dan Lega reports there are.  Huh!
                            

The Heroes and Villains 45 has "At 2 Score" written on Part 1 and "and 5" on Part 2.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: TonyACT on October 07, 2014, 08:20:43 PM
Am I the only one who got the small version of the box set and not the full one because I couldn't afford it?

I doubt it - same here.

Nice little box it is too - and we get a button which the big box apparently didn't :)


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: punkinhead on October 08, 2014, 12:28:08 AM
Am I the only one who got the small version of the box set and not the full one because I couldn't afford it?

I doubt it - same here.

Nice little box it is too - and we get a button which the big box apparently didn't :)
I actually bought the little one second, it was back when I had less bills and lived with my parents...I also wanted it because disc 2 (while having the same tracks as the big box set) had a different track line up than disc 2 of the big boxset.

Oh when I actually had money to by minuscule different items! That'll never happen again! 😬


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Mujan, 8@$+@Rc| of a Blue Wizard on January 15, 2015, 11:54:08 AM
I have nothing to add to this particular discussion except that I agree, the box set is well put together and the booklet is a treat. My Only criticism is that VDP didn't get an essay into the book. That is a glaring and inexcusable omission.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: drbeachboy on January 15, 2015, 12:10:52 PM
I have nothing to add to this particular discussion except that I agree, the box set is well put together and the booklet is a treat. My Only criticism is that VDP didn't get an essay into the book. That is a glaring and inexcusable omission.
Wasn't that by his own doing? I think he has stated that he was finished with Smile with Brian's release.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Wirestone on January 15, 2015, 12:28:26 PM
I have nothing to add to this particular discussion except that I agree, the box set is well put together and the booklet is a treat. My Only criticism is that VDP didn't get an essay into the book. That is a glaring and inexcusable omission.

Van Dyke chose not to participate in the preparation of the box. I'm sure they would have been delighted to run an essay -- a haiku, anything -- from the man.

He and Brian had a nasty falling out sometime between TLOS and TSS. He's been positively acerbic about BW for the last several years.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Mikie on January 15, 2015, 12:53:52 PM
I have nothing to add to this particular discussion except that I agree, the box set is well put together and the booklet is a treat. My Only criticism is that VDP didn't get an essay into the book. That is a glaring and inexcusable omission.

It really is inexcusable.  It doesn't put Van in a good light with fans who were looking forward to his recollections in the booklet.  I don't think he would have that around 2004, when he actually attended Brian's Smile show in London.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: runnersdialzero on January 15, 2015, 04:48:29 PM
Wasn't Van Dyke not on great terms with Team Brian at the time? Either way, if it was on his part of their part, you would hope they could set that aside for something like this.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Mujan, 8@$+@Rc| of a Blue Wizard on January 15, 2015, 06:02:35 PM
I have nothing to add to this particular discussion except that I agree, the box set is well put together and the booklet is a treat. My Only criticism is that VDP didn't get an essay into the book. That is a glaring and inexcusable omission.
Wasn't that by his own doing? I think he has stated that he was finished with Smile with Brian's release.

Is it really so hard to take an hour or two and write up a quick page in Word detailing your goals for the project, the general atmosphere of the sessions, why exactly you quit (and then came back and quit again), any particularly meaningful anecdotes you recall and maybe how your thoughts on it has changed over the years? Even if he subscribes to the ideology that BWPS is the finished thing and his work is done...it's just...well, why WOULDNT you want to include your say in the big release that's been almost 50 years in the making? Even if you don't want to, it'd just be the professional thing to do. This is such an important, mythical product I honestly cannot fathom how or why he would allow his very important insight to be excluded. It's like a filmmaker in this day and age not doing a commentary track for the bluray...but like...times a hundred.

I have nothing to add to this particular discussion except that I agree, the box set is well put together and the booklet is a treat. My Only criticism is that VDP didn't get an essay into the book. That is a glaring and inexcusable omission.

Van Dyke chose not to participate in the preparation of the box. I'm sure they would have been delighted to run an essay -- a haiku, anything -- from the man.

He and Brian had a nasty falling out sometime between TLOS and TSS. He's been positively acerbic about BW for the last several years.

Really? Thats a damn shame :-[ Why so much bad blood between Brian and so many of his past friends/associates? And even so, no excuse for not writing a paragraph at least. Say what you will about Mike, at least he said what he felt about the project honestly and without pretension. VDP, as I see it, owed us at least some kinda reflection here. It was, depending on your interpretation, 25% ~ 50% his album. I know people get offended when fans act like celebrities owe them something. But this is a special case. A once-in-a-lifetime, legendary work of art, withheld from its fans until now, and Brian is mostly unwilling or unable to talk about it, at least in much depth. VDP is then, by default, the leading authority on the subject. He should state what he knows as honestly and completely as possible for the sake of historical preservation regardless of his feelings on Brian or SMiLE. Period.


I have nothing to add to this particular discussion except that I agree, the box set is well put together and the booklet is a treat. My Only criticism is that VDP didn't get an essay into the book. That is a glaring and inexcusable omission.

It really is inexcusable.  It doesn't put Van in a good light with fans who were looking forward to his recollections in the booklet.  I don't think he would have that around 2004, when he actually attended Brian's Smile show in London.

We agree on something SMiLE related?? :o

Yeah, I can say for myself that I now think much less of him as a person. No need to make us fans and the historical record suffer over some petty feud.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Mikie on January 15, 2015, 09:26:51 PM
We agree on something SMiLE related?? :o

Yes, Van Dyke not contributing to the TSS booklet and the "Truck Drivin' Man" section being left out. I've reconciled with the later issue somewhat, understanding that the vocals were added to Cabinessence in 1968, a couple of years after the sessions were over. But still, it's a part of the final song coming together for release and it just sounds neat by itself before being mixed down into the track. I suppose these lyrics were written by Van in 1966 and originally intended for inclusion into the song then and then "found" and sung by Dennis in 1968. Or was the section recorded in '68 and Carl or somebody thought they would sound great in the background of Cabinessence? I'm thinking the former is true....


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Mujan, 8@$+@Rc| of a Blue Wizard on January 15, 2015, 09:35:54 PM
We agree on something SMiLE related?? :o

Yes, Van Dyke not contributing to the TSS booklet and the "Truck Drivin' Man" section being left out. I've reconciled with the later issue somewhat, understanding that the vocals were added to Cabinessence in 1968, a couple of years after the sessions were over. But still, it's a part of the final song coming together for release and it just sounds neat by itself before being mixed down into the track. I suppose these lyrics were written by Van in 1966 and originally intended for inclusion into the song then and then "found" and sung by Dennis in 1968. Or was the section recorded in '68 and Carl or somebody thought they would sound great in the background of Cabinessence? I'm thinking the former is true....

Again, there's also the Reconnected Telephone lyrics no one seems to talk about. Unless I'm very wrong, both are vintage 1966, but for some reason one was used and the other scrapped. A real shame, because I think it'd be cool to have both. And yes, no excuse to leave TDM off the boxset. They cant even use the "but it wasnt recorded in 1966 or 1967" excuse since they included the Cool Cool Water sessions from late '67/early '68 and even freaking Three Blind Mice from 1965 which has NO SMiLE CONNECTION WHATSOEVER.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Mikie on January 15, 2015, 09:51:18 PM
They cant even use the "but it wasnt recorded in 1966 or 1967" excuse since they included the Cool Cool Water sessions from late '67/early '68 and even freaking Three Blind Mice from 1965 which has NO SMiLE CONNECTION WHATSOEVER.

This is true - I just realized that. Cool Cool Water material from the Wild Honey sessions was included in addition to the 'Water chant' segment from '66. No reason not to include a small piece recorded in '68 (Cabinessence). 


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Mujan, 8@$+@Rc| of a Blue Wizard on January 17, 2015, 04:30:47 AM
They cant even use the "but it wasnt recorded in 1966 or 1967" excuse since they included the Cool Cool Water sessions from late '67/early '68 and even freaking Three Blind Mice from 1965 which has NO SMiLE CONNECTION WHATSOEVER.

This is true - I just realized that. Cool Cool Water material from the Wild Honey sessions was included in addition to the 'Water chant' segment from '66. No reason not to include a small piece recorded in '68 (Cabinessence). 

Pretty much this. As much as we all love it, there's a lot of bad decisions they made for that box set.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on January 05, 2016, 05:57:30 PM
Last Christmas I received the deluxe boxset and the two LPs had skips in them.  I returned it (couldn't do an exchange for some odd reason) and kinda forgot about it since I already downloaded the music from the CDs.  I got it again this Christmas and had the same issue.  Are there any other reports out there of this issue?  If anyone looks at this thread anymore lol.  I was able to do an exchange this time (but they're out of stock, so I have to wait).


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on January 10, 2016, 03:41:25 PM
Last Christmas I received the deluxe boxset and the two LPs had skips in them.  I returned it (couldn't do an exchange for some odd reason) and kinda forgot about it since I already downloaded the music from the CDs.  I got it again this Christmas and had the same issue.  Are there any other reports out there of this issue?  If anyone looks at this thread anymore lol.  I was able to do an exchange this time (but they're out of stock, so I have to wait).

Got the reshipment... and the same issues are there.  I guess I'll have to contact Capitol since I have a feeling they're all like this.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: jiggy22 on January 15, 2016, 06:58:33 AM
Last Christmas I received the deluxe boxset and the two LPs had skips in them.  I returned it (couldn't do an exchange for some odd reason) and kinda forgot about it since I already downloaded the music from the CDs.  I got it again this Christmas and had the same issue.  Are there any other reports out there of this issue?  If anyone looks at this thread anymore lol.  I was able to do an exchange this time (but they're out of stock, so I have to wait).

Got the reshipment... and the same issues are there.  I guess I'll have to contact Capitol since I have a feeling they're all like this.

Can you tell us where the two skips are? Cause I have the LP and I don't notice any skips on them at all. Maybe it's a problem with your record player by any chance?


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: csparks on February 26, 2016, 02:10:45 PM
 It is with some trepidation that I make this admission, but I currently have no turntable. In 2009 we moved, and I gave my turntable, receiver, speakers and all my LPs to my daughter and her husband, as they are good kids that like LPs and good music. Due to the move, extremely laziness, etc, I still have no turntable. I've been content with my setup via the computer. Sounds good, easy, no clutter.
 The Smile Sessions LPs have been sitting in their sleeves since the release. My daughter lives in another state, and I've never (lazy) got around to trying to coordinate any re-recording.

Other than a few stereo mixes, just how much have I been missing out on? Is it just the stereo mixes, etc on LP 2, side 2?


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: You Kane, You Commanded, You Conquered on March 18, 2016, 07:17:54 PM
Other than a few stereo mixes, just how much have I been missing out on? Is it just the stereo mixes, etc on LP 2, side 2?
Just the stereo mixes.


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: myonlysunshine on July 17, 2018, 06:22:01 PM
That's weird? I can see them. I'll have to upload again after work.

I can see them too. The light up box looks fantastic! Almost makes me wish I splurged on it instead of the regular box.

Just want to say that 6 years after making the above comment, I went ahead and splurged on the light-up edition of the box. Here are some photos of mine:

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e236/spm107/IMG_1172_zpsktvdawhl.jpg)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e236/spm107/IMG_1173_zpskzavlxv3.jpg)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e236/spm107/IMG_1171_zpsfeduvw2z.jpg)

I was shocked to discover that these are still available via The Beach Boys official website. If anyone here is on the fence about buying this version of the box set let me say that I don't regret my decision at all. Yes it costs more than a pretty penny, but as sidewinder stated the box is just so freaking cool and having Brian's autograph on it is just amazing. It's also an excellent collector's piece. According to Perry Cox's new "Price and Reference Guide for The Beach Boys American Records" book only 50 of these light-up editions were produced, but less were sold (fortunately for me ;D).


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 17, 2018, 06:31:45 PM
Thatís awesome!


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: B.E. on July 17, 2018, 07:14:40 PM
Nice!


Title: Re: All things TSS packaging, presentation and booklet etc
Post by: Bicyclerider on September 07, 2018, 02:35:59 PM
I have nothing to add to this particular discussion except that I agree, the box set is well put together and the booklet is a treat. My Only criticism is that VDP didn't get an essay into the book. That is a glaring and inexcusable omission.

It really is inexcusable.  It doesn't put Van in a good light with fans who were looking forward to his recollections in the booklet.  I don't think he would have that around 2004, when he actually attended Brian's Smile show in London.

I don't think people understand the context of Van's not writing anything for the booklet.  My understanding is that Capitol was negotiating the rights to Frank's artwork, and were offering an insultingly low amount, which he refused - and there was talk of not using the original artwork at all!! Van was appalled at this and was justifiably angry at Capitol and I suppose by extension Brian's team for not standing up for Frank.  This is how Van ended up not writing anything for the box.  By the time the art payment issues were worked out it was either too late or Van was no longer interested in writing something for the project.