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Title: The Beatles
Post by: Dunderhead on October 13, 2011, 01:45:26 AM
I wanted to start a thread about the most famous band of all time. If your a Beatles fan please share your thoughts, list your favorite songs, whatever. Earlier today I conducted an experiment, I listened to all The Beatles albums in order. I can't say that I understand them, they've just never really wowed me. I've yet to hear a song by them that I just *have* to hear again, perhaps the closest I've come to that is I'm Only Sleeping. Sure they have good songs, even some great ones, but none of them feel really special to me. I guess over the last month or two I've been listening to them a lot, and just want to hear thoughts and comments from other people.

My ratings:
Please Please Me: 7/10
With The Beatles: 7
Hard Days Night: 7.5
Beatles For Sale: 8
Help: 8.5
Rubber Soul: 9
Revolver: 8.9
Sgt. Peppers: 8
Magical Mystery Tour: 9
S/T: 7
Yellow Submarine: 4 (why does this even count as an official Beatles LP?)
Abbey Road: 8.5
Let It Be: 6


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: stack-o-tracks on October 13, 2011, 02:24:05 AM
Who?


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Amazing Larry on October 13, 2011, 07:13:51 AM
Please Please Me: 6/10
With The Beatles: 7.5/10
A Hard Days Night: 8.5/10
Beatles For Sale: 8/10
Help!: 8/10
Rubber Soul: 9.5/10
Revolver: 10/10
Sgt. Pepper: 9/10
Magical Mystery Tour: 9/10
S/T: 9/10
Abbey Road: 10/10
Let It Be: 7.5/10


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: pixletwin on October 13, 2011, 07:27:51 AM

Please Please Me: 7/10
With The Beatles: 7.5/10
A Hard Days Night: 8.5/10
Beatles For Sale: 8/10
Help!: 6/10
Rubber Soul: 9/10
Revolver: 9.5/10
Sgt. Pepper: 9.5/10
Magical Mystery Tour: 8.5/10
White Album: 10/10
Abbey Road: 10/10
Let It Be: 7.5/10
Let It Be... Naked: 10/10


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: JK on October 13, 2011, 08:04:29 AM
The stunning debut, Rubber Soul, Revolver and Abbey Road are albums I'd probably award 10/10. I'm not a rabid fan by any means, certainly where McCartney is concerned, but they have done some extraordinary things.

One track? I'd probably single out "The Word". That is amazing!

While on the subject: I've not only been banned from Capitol's Beatles message board but all my 200-plus posts have been removed! So much for my career as a Beatles fan.  :lol

 


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: rab2591 on October 13, 2011, 08:07:05 AM
Magical Mystery Tour is becoming one of my favorite albums.

It reminds me of 20/20 in a way; there are different pieces that don't seem belong with each other, but for some reason it fits.

Penny Lane is one of my favorite songs. The bass in 'Baby You're A Rich Man' is one of my favorite bass lines ever. 'SFF' is a fantastic trip. 'Your Mother Should Know' really reminds me of Smiley Smile - I really wonder what the Beatles thought of that record! The whole album carries on a psychedelic feel - some of it is gloomy, some is dreamy, some is happy.....and it's all high-quality/phenomenal music.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ron on October 13, 2011, 09:00:21 AM
I think John was embarassed that he wrote "The Word" wasn't he? 

When I was in High School, I got into the Beatles as the anthologys came out.  I was blown away.  Amazing band.

My theory is, and I don't care if anybody agrees, the Beatles were inspired by God to write their music.  I'm dead serious.  I attribute a lot of talented bands with that, definately the Beach Boys as well.  Anyways, the Beatles, as individuals, weren't the greatest ever but put all together, they were.  Some of their songs are so simple, it should be impossible that they were the first to come up with that, but yet there it is. 

I won't get into rating their albums because that's pretty subjective, I'll just say I've enjoyed their music so much, and I think they've done a lot, through their music, to effect the way people live their lives.  No other band ever spread as much happiness, love, and good times as the Beatles did, all around the world.  Their contribution not only to music but to the human experience is tremendous.  I'm dead serious.  I can't tell you how many times I've laughed, smiled, loved, or cheered up because I heard a Beatles song somewhere.

Some of their early albums are really overlooked, lots of great music there.  Also lots of great memories of the first time I heard some of the songs, for instance I was sleeping at a friends house at the Beach the first time I heard Revolver.  I woke up 15 or 16 times that night because I had the cd on repeat, and kept waking up everytime "For No One" played.  I can remember driving around in a car, listening to "Help" and being blown away the first time I ever heard "I've just seen a face". 


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: pixletwin on October 13, 2011, 09:03:00 AM
Well put Ron. I agree 100%.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Dunderhead on October 13, 2011, 11:38:32 AM
I think I liked Rubber Soul the best, 14 songs felt a little long to me, and some songs I wished would have faded out a few bars early, or dropped a verse or something (which is funny considering that most of the songs are already under 3 minutes), but the songwritting is very nice. Everything is very nuanced and subtle.

By S/T though, Paul and John seemed to have become much less interesting song writers. Lyrically that album is terrible. I want to take all of Paul's little characters and blast them off on a rocket into the sun. John's acerbic humor grows really thin after awhile too, and the blues songs on that record suck.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: 1-1-wonderful on October 13, 2011, 11:55:13 AM
Who?
My Generation 7.5
A Quick One 5.5
Sell Out 8.0
Tommy 8.5
Live at Leeds 9.5
Who's Next 10.0
Quadrophenia 9.5
By Numbers 7.0
Who are You 6.5


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: pixletwin on October 13, 2011, 12:02:21 PM
I may feel incredibly stupid once I know the answer but, what album is S/T?


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Dunderhead on October 13, 2011, 12:13:59 PM
I may feel incredibly stupid once I know the answer but, what album is S/T?

White Album


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: pixletwin on October 13, 2011, 12:25:41 PM
Oh, Self Titled. Gracias.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Dunderhead on October 13, 2011, 12:42:52 PM
Ray Davies reviews Revolver:

Side One: "Taxman" - "It sounds like a cross between the Who and Batman. It's a bit limited, but the Beatles get over this by the sexy double-tracking. It's surprising how sexy double-tracking makes a voice sound."

"Eleanor Rigby" - "I bought a Haydn LP the other day and this sounds just like it. It's all sort of quartet stuff and it sounds like they're out to please music teachers in primary schools. I can imagine John saying: 'I'm going to write this for my old schoolmistress'. Still it's very commercial."

"I'm Only Sleeping" - "It's a most beautiful song, much prettier than 'Eleanor Rigby'. A jolly old thing, really, and definitely the best track on the album.

"Love You Too" - "George wrote this - he must have quite a big influence on the group now. This sort of song I was doing two years ago - now I'm doing what the Beatles were doing two years ago. It's not a bad song - it's well performed which is always true of a Beatles track."

"Here There and Everywhere" - "This proves that the Beatles have got good memories, because there are a lot of busy chords in it. It's nice - like one instrument with the voice and the guitar merging. Third best track on the album."

"Yellow Submarine" - ""This is a load of rubbish, really. I take the mickey out of myself on the piano and play stuff like this. I think they know it's not that good."

"She Said She Said" - "This song is in to restore confidence in old Beatles sound. That's all."

"Good Day Sunshine" - "This'll be a giant. It doesn't force itself on you, but it stands out like 'I'm Only Sleeping'. This is back to the real old Beatles. I just don't like the electronic stuff. The Beatles were supposed to be like the boy next door only better."

"And Your Bird Can Sing" - "Don't like this. The song's too predictable. It's not a Beatles song at all."

"Dr. Robert" - "It's good - there's a 12-bar beat and bits in it that are clever. Not my sort of thing, though."

"I Want To Tell You" - "This helps the LP through though it's not up to the Beatles standard."

"Got To Get You Into My Life" - "Jazz backing - and it just goes to prove that Britain's jazz musicians can't swing. Paul's sings better jazz than the musicians are playing which makes nonsense of people saying jazz and pop are very different. Paul sounds like Little Richard. Really, it's the most vintage Beatles track on the LP."

"Tomorrow Never Knows" - "Listen to all those crazy sounds! It'll be popular in discotheques. I can imagine they had George Martin tied to a totem pole when they did this."


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: markcharles75 on October 13, 2011, 02:15:00 PM
Well I got into the Beatles heavy before I got into The Beach Boys...I ate it all up.  Even just from a historical point of view, it is essential, awesome, and mind blowing what they did in popular music.  But something happened.  I cannot get off on the Beatles that much anymore. I rarely listen to their albums and they don't move me emotionally like Brian Wilson does.  It is a strange thing.  Dare I say, it bores the living daylights out of me! I guess its hard to come close to Brian Wilson's genius.   But this is all just personal opinion...


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: SMiLE Brian on October 13, 2011, 02:19:45 PM
I have trouble listening to other music as well because nothing moves me more than The Beach Boys. The production of anything else doesn't match up to the genius of Brian Wilson in his prime.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: stack-o-tracks on October 13, 2011, 07:20:10 PM
I have trouble listening to other music as well because nothing moves me more than The Beach Boys. The production of anything else doesn't match up to the genius of Brian Wilson in his prime.

In the past few years I went from casual fan to I hardly even listen to music anymore unless its the Beach Boys. Quote inconvenient because its not the music my friends want to hear. Could never get into the Peedles. A couple good songs but a lot of fluff. The Beach Boys have those songs as well but the good ones more than make up for the Be True To Your Schools and Eveeyones In Love With Yous


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Alex on October 13, 2011, 08:06:32 PM
I`d have to say that my faves are Please Rut Me, Tragical History Tour, The Triangular Album, and if solo stuff counts, Old Bag, All Things Must Rut, and Dark Side of the Sun.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on October 14, 2011, 08:24:03 AM
The Beach Boys are my second favourite band.

The Beatles are the first. They've been in that position since I was about four years old and I'm sure they'll always be there.

To be honest, I find it somewhat unsettling that the campaign to make the Beach Boys hip again which started in the late 90s and continued throughout the next decade has led to a re-evaluation of the Beatles music. Well, I guess these things can be cyclical - the same opinions were held during the punk era. The Beatles will have their day again.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: drbeachboy on October 14, 2011, 11:59:15 AM
The Beach Boys are my second favourite band.

The Beatles are the first. They've been in that position since I was about four years old and I'm sure they'll always be there.

To be honest, I find it somewhat unsettling that the campaign to make the Beach Boys hip again which started in the late 90s and continued throughout the next decade has led to a re-evaluation of the Beatles music. Well, I guess these things can be cyclical - the same opinions were held during the punk era. The Beatles will have their day again.
There is not a damn thing wrong with The Beatles music. They will always be hip and be trendsetters in 60s rock and roll. Though The Beach Boys are my first love in music, there is no denying what the Beatles accomplished in their relatively short time together. I find Rubber Soul remarkable. I can understand why Brian was so blown away by it. Although the popularity of The Beach Boys waned after 1966, both bands were still feeding off each other creatively. I always hoped that the 1967-1973 period of music was re-evaluated on it's own merits, only because so much it was ignored by the general public when first released.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on October 14, 2011, 12:17:05 PM
I always hoped that the 1967-1973 period of music was re-evaluated on it's own merits, only because so much it was ignored by the general public when first released.

I agree. And I think that's a huge issue with Beach Boys fans. If you look at a lot of the pre-1998 documentaries or biopics, they usually blow past that era with maybe a brief stop to hear Do It Again, I Can Hear Music, and Breakway.

Thankfully, there has been more of a recognition and appreciation of that era in the last ten years, what with the Endless Harmony doc, the Brian Wilson A&E show, the BW tours that have highlighted many of that eras music, the doc's and live albums from BW, the rerelease of the two-fers, etc.

Unfortunately, the negative side to this onslaught of this calculated campaign has been people just discovering the band now and coming to the conclusion that The Beatles had nothing on them, or even more, that the early surf stuff was minor Beach Boys.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: JohnMill on October 14, 2011, 01:03:36 PM
I wanted to start a thread about the most famous band of all time.

WHY DID YOU HAVE TO BRING THEM UP FOR!!!???  >:(  :lol

The Beatles are my favorite band of all time.  They were the band that elevated my interest in music from being something that I occasionally listened to on the radio or on long car trips to becoming a legitimate passion of mine which since that time has become a huge part of my life.  I have to say I love all their albums and there probably isn't another band out there that I have as much of an interest in as The Beatles.

After all these years my favorite Beatles albums would have to be "A Hard Day's Night", "Rubber Soul" and "The White Album".  I throw in a special mention as well to John Lennon's first solo album and George Harrision's "All Things Must Pass" which is certainly in my top three favorite albums of all time.

I owe that band and their music so much that it's immeasurable.  For me there has never been a debate The Beatles are the greatest band of all time.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ron on October 14, 2011, 03:04:47 PM
I always hoped that the 1967-1973 period of music was re-evaluated on it's own merits, only because so much it was ignored by the general public when first released.

I agree. And I think that's a huge issue with Beach Boys fans. If you look at a lot of the pre-1998 documentaries or biopics, they usually blow past that era with maybe a brief stop to hear Do It Again, I Can Hear Music, and Breakway.

Thankfully, there has been more of a recognition and appreciation of that era in the last ten years, what with the Endless Harmony doc, the Brian Wilson A&E show, the BW tours that have highlighted many of that eras music, the doc's and live albums from BW, the rerelease of the two-fers, etc.

Unfortunately, the negative side to this onslaught of this calculated campaign has been people just discovering the band now and coming to the conclusion that The Beatles had nothing on them, or even more, that the early surf stuff was minor Beach Boys.

Preach it brother.  Some just don't understand both bands were great, and the early Beach Boys music was just as good as the later stuff.  Same with the Beatles.  When you've got it you've got it.  Surfin' USA had it's time as "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" did.  I have no problem when pointing to great Beatles songs, bringing up "She Loves You" or "Baby's in Black", or "Catch A Wave" for the boys, etc. 


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ron on October 14, 2011, 03:06:12 PM
I throw in a special mention as well to John Lennon's first solo album and George Harrision's "All Things Must Pass" which is certainly in my top three favorite albums of all time.



I even bought John and Yoko's 'naked' album, what was that called, "Twin Pisces" or something?  It had John and Yoko nude on the cover.  Biggest bunch of rubbish ever, though, lol.  Just about an hour or bullshit recorded in his house, lol. 


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: richardsnow on October 14, 2011, 05:09:06 PM
My fave bands are the Beatles , The Byrds and the Beach boys.

but I have to give extra love to The Fabs for being consistantly high quality 62-69.    Brian's stuff 65-67 beats them I think , But The Beatles didn't have an MIU album or Keeping the Summer alive or Ringo's Drums.  they may have done a Beatle's party but they only saw light on the mad xmas flexi discs.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: runnersdialzero on October 15, 2011, 12:06:27 AM
But The Beatles didn't have an MIU album or Keeping the Summer alive

They didn't have the chance to.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: runnersdialzero on October 15, 2011, 12:07:30 AM
The Beach Boys are my second favourite band.

The Beatles are the first. They've been in that position since I was about four years old and I'm sure they'll always be there.

To be honest, I find it somewhat unsettling that the campaign to make the Beach Boys hip again which started in the late 90s and continued throughout the next decade has led to a re-evaluation of the Beatles music. Well, I guess these things can be cyclical - the same opinions were held during the punk era. The Beatles will have their day again.

The Beatles are about as popular as they've ever been. They're inescapable, especially in the last couple of years.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Dunderhead on October 15, 2011, 12:11:48 AM
I think Rubber Soul was the peak for The Beatles.
Sgt. Peppers was maybe the first album I ever recall buying, I had read something in a magazine praising it, so I eagerly bought it. Best album ever? Sign me up. Of course when you're a kid you can only afford to buy something every once in a while, usually with money given to you for your birthday, so whatever you do get, you're stuck with. I remember being pissed after listening to it for the first time, I badly regretted that purchase let me tell you, not a single song even struck me as listenable, save for Mr. Kite, which is probably still the closest I have to a favorite on that record.
I've come to appreciate the album a lot more, but still, it doesn't sound like much to me. For the longest time Within You Without You didn't even register as music with me, but these days I can at least discern something of a song in there. The album sounds kind of nauseating to me, something about the production, it just sounds thin and wiry. Nothing compared to the richness of Brian's production.

After that album I think they just got worse, especially lyrically. I think Paul's character songs are uninteresting, I hate the callowness of them. John's acerbic humor and suicidal nihilism doesn't sit well with me either. It's not that I demand every song be a love song, it's just that I'd rather take a good honest love song over half the stuff on the white album.

I really think all the albums need to be remixed, I thought the boxset was going to be remixes and I was looking forward to hearing the songs in a new light, but I'm sure their saving that for another boxset.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ron on October 15, 2011, 08:33:14 AM
Can I ask you a serious question?  Why did you create a thread about a band you don't really like? 


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: hypehat on October 15, 2011, 08:39:58 AM
I guess over the last month or two I've been listening to them a lot, and just want to hear thoughts and comments from other people.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: JohnMill on October 15, 2011, 08:57:48 AM
they may have done a Beatle's party but they only saw light on the mad xmas flexi discs.

Actually in one of the myriad of Beatles books I have they compare the "Kinfauns" session favorably to The Beach Boys' "Party!" album.  I think it's a fair comparison given the lighthearted atmosphere in which both sets of recordings were created.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on October 15, 2011, 09:14:03 AM

The Beatles are about as popular as they've ever been.

No. They are not.

But they are still popular.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Peter Reum on October 15, 2011, 09:22:12 AM
Growing up in the 60s, the Beatles and Beach Boys were omnipresent on the radio. But there was so much more great music....The Byrds, The Kinks, The Who, The Stones, The Rascals, The Band, Dylan, Motown, Stax, New Orleans, etc.....This is not to say that any other era is better or worse, but I am attached to that music because it is a part of my growing up. The Beatles will always be a favorite group of mine...Their middle period is my favorite...roughly Rubber Soul through Magical Mystery Tour. The early stuff in mind mind helped reinvigorate rock music, along with The Beach Boys and Motown. Their later stuff is less satisfying to me, Side 2 of Abbey Road being an exception. The Beatles solo stuff is spotty...I own maybe 5 cds total. But so is The Beach Boys' solo stuff...


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on October 15, 2011, 10:29:03 AM
Growing up in the 60s, the Beatles and Beach Boys were omnipresent on the radio. But there was so much more great music....The Byrds, The Kinks, The Who, The Stones, The Rascals, The Band, Dylan, Motown, Stax, New Orleans, etc.....This is not to say that any other era is better or worse, but I am attached to that music because it is a part of my growing up. The Beatles will always be a favorite group of mine...Their middle period is my favorite...roughly Rubber Soul through Magical Mystery Tour. The early stuff in mind mind helped reinvigorate rock music, along with The Beach Boys and Motown. Their later stuff is less satisfying to me, Side 2 of Abbey Road being an exception. The Beatles solo stuff is spotty...I own maybe 5 cds total. But so is The Beach Boys' solo stuff...

I don't know what it is about that era. I was not alive during it but it's the only music I really listen to consistently. Maybe the fact that my parents played it a lot in my formative years in the early 80s, I'm not sure. But overall, I think what makes the music from that time is that it's so culturally significant and there was a lot of ground being discovered in both the rock and roll and R&B genres. Now, because pretty much all the ground has been discovered, there's not much that rock and roll can do that's interesting anymore. It's the same reason that Jazz was best during the Jazz age, not, say, during the 70s or 80s. But as far as finding new territory goes, The Beatles were pretty much at the top of the heap. They were the Magellans of rock and roll.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: runnersdialzero on October 15, 2011, 11:07:28 AM

The Beatles are about as popular as they've ever been.

No. They are not.

But they are still popular.

*ridiculously popular and inescapable. There's no "day" for them to have or get back, their "day" has lasted almost fifty years now.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on October 15, 2011, 11:16:10 AM

The Beatles are about as popular as they've ever been.

No. They are not.

But they are still popular.

*ridiculously popular and inescapable. There's no "day" for them to have or get back, their "day" has lasted almost fifty years now.

But you have to understand what was going on at the height of their popularity, right? They occupied the top five chart positions on the Billboard Top 100. There was a ridiculous amount of Beatles memorabilia being sold. Then in 1967, you had Sgt. Pepper being played just about everywhere. It was the record of the counter-culture.

Again, The Beatles are still popular, there's no doubt about it. But it is simply impossible for a band who stopped making music over 40 years ago to keep up the same level of popularity. That being said, the fact that they have the kind of popularity that they do after 40 years of not playing is astounding and really speaks to the overall relevance of their music.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Dunderhead on October 15, 2011, 12:02:10 PM
Can I ask you a serious question?  Why did you create a thread about a band you don't really like? 

I wouldn't say I don't really like them. I have a much less rosy assessment of them than many people. Rubber Soul is a fantastic album, probably the closest they came to doing a real perfect album. Revolver too has some real great stuff on it, I'm Only Sleeping is an incredible song, Tomorrow Never Knows too is one of the very best psychedelic songs ever recorded. The SFF/Penny Lane single was groundbreaking, and just awesome all around. Saying that, I don't really understand why people cream themselves over everything they ever did, I would rather listen to The Byrds or Love, I just prefer the LA sound to what The Beatles cooked up at Abbey Road.
But I am interested in the band, I enjoy hearing about them, I think they were interesting personalities who greatly impacted history. So I just wanted to have a discussion on them. Sure I can write about how I don't really like Sgt. Peppers, but I'd also like to read the thoughts of someone who really likes the album, and then I can say "huh," and relisten to the album and maybe appreciate it a little bit more. I don't see anything wrong with that.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: runnersdialzero on October 15, 2011, 12:18:46 PM

The Beatles are about as popular as they've ever been.

No. They are not.

But they are still popular.

*ridiculously popular and inescapable. There's no "day" for them to have or get back, their "day" has lasted almost fifty years now.

But you have to understand what was going on at the height of their popularity, right? They occupied the top five chart positions on the Billboard Top 100. There was a ridiculous amount of Beatles memorabilia being sold. Then in 1967, you had Sgt. Pepper being played just about everywhere. It was the record of the counter-culture.

Again, The Beatles are still popular, there's no doubt about it. But it is simply impossible for a band who stopped making music over 40 years ago to keep up the same level of popularity. That being said, the fact that they have the kind of popularity that they do after 40 years of not playing is astounding and really speaks to the overall relevance of their music.

Roight. I figgered this was all assumed with what I was sayin' considering they haven't existed in decades . imo.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on October 15, 2011, 12:40:00 PM
Can I ask you a serious question?  Why did you create a thread about a band you don't really like? 

I wouldn't say I don't really like them. I have a much less rosy assessment of them than many people. Rubber Soul is a fantastic album, probably the closest they came to doing a real perfect album. Revolver too has some real great stuff on it, I'm Only Sleeping is an incredible song, Tomorrow Never Knows too is one of the very best psychedelic songs ever recorded. The SFF/Penny Lane single was groundbreaking, and just awesome all around. Saying that, I don't really understand why people cream themselves over everything they ever did, I would rather listen to The Byrds or Love, I just prefer the LA sound to what The Beatles cooked up at Abbey Road.
But I am interested in the band, I enjoy hearing about them, I think they were interesting personalities who greatly impacted history. So I just wanted to have a discussion on them. Sure I can write about how I don't really like Sgt. Peppers, but I'd also like to read the thoughts of someone who really likes the album, and then I can say "huh," and relisten to the album and maybe appreciate it a little bit more. I don't see anything wrong with that.

Fair enough. I just don't know what I can say, though, to make you appreciate the music more. I did find your argument on The White Album in another thread to be unconvincing. But aside from that, I'm not sure. If you would rather listen to The Byrds or Love then I wouldn't fault you for it. They are both great too. I mean I don't quite hear the same consistency in either band as I do with The Beatles. So far the only Byrds album that has grabbed me as a whole work is Sweetheart of the Rodeo but I do have Tambourine Man, Younger Than Yesterday, The Notorious Byrd Brothers. Forever Changes is a great whole work too. I like Da Capo but I never listen to Revelation and that takes up so much space. My favourite California band after The Beach Boys might actually be The Monkees, come to think of it. Buffalo Springfield is pretty awesome too.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: earcandy on October 15, 2011, 01:04:57 PM

The Beatles are about as popular as they've ever been.

No. They are not.

But they are still popular.

Actually more popular if you look at sales figures from the '90s on.  Just an example: my kids were raised with a myriad of musical influences, but yet, on their own picked the Beatles as their faves.  They couldn't give a toss about the Beach Boys, although I played tons of Beach Boys for them when they were growing up.

By October 1972, the Beatlesí worldwide sales total stood at 545 million units. To date The Beatles record sales are over 2.3 billion units worldwide.  That means MOST of the sales have been since they broke up.  So, yes, they are still popular, if not MORE.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: runnersdialzero on October 15, 2011, 01:20:03 PM

The Beatles are about as popular as they've ever been.

No. They are not.

But they are still popular.

Actually more popular if you look at sales figures from the '90s on.  Just an example: my kids were raised with a myriad of musical influences, but yet, on their own picked the Beatles as their faves.  They couldn't give a toss about the Beach Boys, although I played tons of Beach Boys for them when they were growing up.

By October 1972, the Beatlesí worldwide sales total stood at 545 million units. To date The Beatles record sales are over 2.3 billion units worldwide.  That means MOST of the sales have been since they broke up.  So, yes, they are still popular.

+1


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: earcandy on October 15, 2011, 02:35:59 PM
This "Beatles Vs. Beach Boys" debate is flogging a dead horse.  Hands down the Beatles win in: cultural impact, music impact, musical legacy and sales.

I know, I know...it is very popular these days to play "musical-history-revisionalism" by "bashing Sgt. Pepper" ad nauseam and trying to downplay the cultural impact the album had in 1967 (as well as their other albums) - but most of these revisionalists weren't even born until decades after the '60s, so they have no point of reference.  It's like watching a few newsreels from the '20s and suddenly becoming an "expert" on the "roaring '20s".

That being said, I think that Brian Wilson is the better at overall musical composition in terms of inventiveness. And that, my friends, will be proven over time.   


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: runnersdialzero on October 15, 2011, 02:45:02 PM
This "Beatles Vs. Beach Boys" debate is flogging a dead horse.  Hands down the Beatles win in: cultural impact, music impact, musical legacy and sales.

While there's importance to that, what ultimately matters more to me is who had the better songs. Yeah, I know you kinda said the same thing a bit later, but still.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ron on October 15, 2011, 03:02:25 PM

The Beatles are about as popular as they've ever been.

No. They are not.

But they are still popular.

*ridiculously popular and inescapable. There's no "day" for them to have or get back, their "day" has lasted almost fifty years now.

But you have to understand what was going on at the height of their popularity, right? They occupied the top five chart positions on the Billboard Top 100. There was a ridiculous amount of Beatles memorabilia being sold. Then in 1967, you had Sgt. Pepper being played just about everywhere. It was the record of the counter-culture.

Again, The Beatles are still popular, there's no doubt about it. But it is simply impossible for a band who stopped making music over 40 years ago to keep up the same level of popularity. That being said, the fact that they have the kind of popularity that they do after 40 years of not playing is astounding and really speaks to the overall relevance of their music.

Yeah, I agree.  They're not AAAAAAAAAAIIIEIEEEEEE SHJRRRRIIIIEEEEKKKKKK JOOHHHHNNNNNN!!!! in the middle of Shea stadium popular anymore.  Nothing's that popular.  Lady Ga Ga's not THAT popular.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ron on October 15, 2011, 03:06:09 PM

The Beatles are about as popular as they've ever been.

No. They are not.

But they are still popular.

Actually more popular if you look at sales figures from the '90s on.  Just an example: my kids were raised with a myriad of musical influences, but yet, on their own picked the Beatles as their faves.  They couldn't give a toss about the Beach Boys, although I played tons of Beach Boys for them when they were growing up.

By October 1972, the Beatlesí worldwide sales total stood at 545 million units. To date The Beatles record sales are over 2.3 billion units worldwide.  That means MOST of the sales have been since they broke up.  So, yes, they are still popular, if not MORE.

Hmmm.  Actually, they sold more while they were together.  If you're using 1972 as the end date for your figure, and starting in what, 1963?  That would mean in 9 years they sold 545 million units.  Keep up that pace, and they would have sold 2.9 Billon records up to now.  They haven't though, they've fallen short, only selling 2.3 billion units, lol.  So they are popular of course, but demonstrably not as popular as those numbers you just gave show.  (I know, I know, i'm just nitpicking)

Edit: I'm thinking it's more like 10 years which makes the math easier, by October 2012 they need to 2.7 billion records to be as popular consistantly.  I guess if you take into account that they didn't sell many records for about 15 years in the 70's and early 80's they've probably been selling at a faster rate than in the 60's for th epast 10 or 15 years to catch up. 


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Dunderhead on October 15, 2011, 03:09:10 PM
Who produces themselves to sound like The Beatles? Mercury Rev, My Bloody Valentine, Animal Collective? Brian Wilson hands down was the better producer. In terms of composition I think The Beatles won, there are more bands with songs that sound like Beatles songs than Brian Wilson songs. Wilson had a really idiosyncratic style of composition, Andy Partridge for example said Pale and Precious was the hardest song to do on The Dukes album.
So I guess we have songs written like Beatles songs, produced like Brian Wilson songs.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on October 15, 2011, 03:12:33 PM

The Beatles are about as popular as they've ever been.

No. They are not.

But they are still popular.

Actually more popular if you look at sales figures from the '90s on.  Just an example: my kids were raised with a myriad of musical influences, but yet, on their own picked the Beatles as their faves.  They couldn't give a toss about the Beach Boys, although I played tons of Beach Boys for them when they were growing up.

By October 1972, the Beatlesí worldwide sales total stood at 545 million units. To date The Beatles record sales are over 2.3 billion units worldwide.  That means MOST of the sales have been since they broke up.  So, yes, they are still popular, if not MORE.

Hmmm.  Actually, they sold more while they were together.  If you're using 1972 as the end date for your figure, and starting in what, 1963?  That would mean in 9 years they sold 545 million units.  Keep up that pace, and they would have sold 2.9 Billon records up to now.  They haven't though, they've fallen short, only selling 2.3 billion units, lol.  So they are popular of course, but demonstrably not as popular as those numbers you just gave show.  (I know, I know, i'm just nitpicking)

Thanks, Ron. Furthermore, you have to take into account the fact that the number of global record buyers of Western music expanded signficantly after 1972 aswell as releases like The Red Album, The Blue Album, highly publicized comps like Love Songs, and Rock & Roll, the three Beatles anthologies, 1, the whole collection re-released on CD twice. There have been a lot of releases to keep those sales numbers up. It's just not a very good reflection of The Beatles popularity in comparison to the sort of popularity they had while they were still together.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: earcandy on October 15, 2011, 03:13:14 PM
This "Beatles Vs. Beach Boys" debate is flogging a dead horse.  Hands down the Beatles win in: cultural impact, music impact, musical legacy and sales.

While there's importance to that, what ultimately matters more to me is who had the better songs. Yeah, I know you kinda said the same thing a bit later, but still.

Ahh, but "who had the better songs" is very personal.   While you and I both know of Brian's talent and "timelessness" - you simply cannot force someone to like something, neither can you go back in time and make Brian finish Smile in 1967.  When it comes to exposing people to the Beach Boys, you gotta take the approach of the old saying, "you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar".   Just play them the music - you'll be surprised how effective this is!  People are turned off by music snobs (not that I am calling you one, mind you!) that make broad, absolute statements that make a person feel like you are degrading their tastes.  You gotta make them feel that they, themselves just made a discovery.

I myself have converted more people to the Beach Boys by just playing their music and not saying ANYTHING.  I can't tell you how many times I've had a Smile tune playing in the background and someone says, "Wow! who is that?!"  Which is usually followed by, "Can you burn me a copy of Smile?" (THEN, you give them a brief history lesson of the Beach Boys)
 


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ron on October 15, 2011, 03:22:34 PM

The Beatles are about as popular as they've ever been.

No. They are not.

But they are still popular.

Actually more popular if you look at sales figures from the '90s on.  Just an example: my kids were raised with a myriad of musical influences, but yet, on their own picked the Beatles as their faves.  They couldn't give a toss about the Beach Boys, although I played tons of Beach Boys for them when they were growing up.

By October 1972, the Beatlesí worldwide sales total stood at 545 million units. To date The Beatles record sales are over 2.3 billion units worldwide.  That means MOST of the sales have been since they broke up.  So, yes, they are still popular, if not MORE.

Hmmm.  Actually, they sold more while they were together.  If you're using 1972 as the end date for your figure, and starting in what, 1963?  That would mean in 9 years they sold 545 million units.  Keep up that pace, and they would have sold 2.9 Billon records up to now.  They haven't though, they've fallen short, only selling 2.3 billion units, lol.  So they are popular of course, but demonstrably not as popular as those numbers you just gave show.  (I know, I know, i'm just nitpicking)

Thanks, Ron. Furthermore, you have to take into account the fact that the number of global record buyers of Western music expanded signficantly after 1972 aswell as releases like The Red Album, The Blue Album, the three Beatles anthologies, 1, the whole collection re-released on CD twice. There have been a lot of releases to keep those sales numbers up. It's just not a very good reflection of The Beatles popularity in comparison to the sort of popularity they had while they were still together.

But again, my point remains that they are popular. So, as Michael Palin once said, this isn't an argument.

Yup I just felt like being a math nerd, they're obviously very popular.  Ask Michael Jackson.  Ergh... ask Michael Jackson's kids. 


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on October 15, 2011, 03:33:38 PM
Who produces themselves to sound like The Beatles? Mercury Rev, My Bloody Valentine, Animal Collective? Brian Wilson hands down was the better producer.

I think Brian Wilson is probably my favourite producer, but hands down? Over George Martin? I think you'd find many people, and many in the music business and in music scholarship for that matter, who would find such a sweeping statement to be a tad on the ridiculous side. That's probably why Martin has received so many honourary degrees from prestigious music institutions.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Keri on October 15, 2011, 03:46:43 PM
The Beatles are great. Very different from The Beach Boys/Brian Wilson, whereas Brian said "I just wasn't made for these times" the Beatles clearly were, the cultural currents of the time flowed effortlessly through the Beatles work, Timothy Leary's reading of the Tibetan book of the Dead went into Tomorrow Never knows, Brian Gyson's cut up technique most notably on revolution number nine, Indian mysticism in sitar playing and Within You without you. Sgt Pepper was the perfect expression of Psychedelia as well as the wealth of popular music influences that poured through them and became truly Beatled.

For me the pinnacle is Sgt Pepper there has been a lot of kick back on this album, but it is so positive and creative. Paul's story songs give a warm human appreciation of everyday life. Lucy in the Sky (particularly the mono version with its psychedelic phasing) is a great psychedelic trip. Being for the Benefit of Mr Kite is such a wonderful colourful extravaganza. Within You without you gives a weight to the album, a philosophic centre and it all builds up to the final epic A Day in the Life. Amazing!

For me, the Beach Boys are primarily Brian Wilson and Brian is primarily music. The early Beach Boys records are great but lyrically they are just good. They made a California dream but it is also a bit hokey "East coast girls are hip, I really dig those styles they wear" that's one of the reasons why Pet Sounds and SMiLE are such great albums, the lyrics have moved up a notch, the other being that the music had too.

The Beatles worked together and progressed together at least until Sgt Pepper, there was no one saying "don't f**k with the formula" they were a band in a way that the Beach Boys never were.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: earcandy on October 15, 2011, 03:56:57 PM
The Beatles are great. Very different from The Beach Boys/Brian Wilson, whereas Brian said "I just wasn't made for these times" the Beatles clearly were, the cultural currents of the time flowed effortlessly through the Beatles work, Timothy Leary's reading of the Tibetan book of the Dead went into Tomorrow Never knows, Brian Gyson's cut up technique most notably on revolution number nine, Indian mysticism in sitar playing and Within You without you. Sgt Pepper was the perfect expression of Psychedelia as well as the wealth of popular music influences that poured through them and became truly Beatled.

For me the pinnacle is Sgt Pepper there has been a lot of kick back on this album, but it is so positive and creative. Paul's story songs give a warm human appreciation of everyday life. Lucy in the Sky (particularly the mono version with its psychedelic phasing) is a great psychedelic trip. Being for the Benefit of Mr Kite is such a wonderful colourful extravaganza. Within You without you gives a weight to the album, a philosophic centre and it all builds up to the final epic A Day in the Life. Amazing!

For me, the Beach Boys are primarily Brian Wilson and Brian is primarily music. The early Beach Boys records are great but lyrically they are just good. They made a California dream but it is also a bit hokey "East coast girls are hip, I really dig those styles they wear" that's one of the reasons why Pet Sounds and SMiLE are such great albums, the lyrics have moved up a notch, the other being that the music had too.

The Beatles worked together and progressed together at least until Sgt Pepper, there was no one saying "don't f**k with the formula" they were a band in a way that the Beach Boys never were.

Well put!  I don't understand why some people have to try and pick "one over the other" when both were (and are) great.   Unfortunately for Beach Boys fans, the Beatles had impeccable "timing" throughout their whole career, while the Beach Boys had many, many "timing" fiascos, especially after 1966.   







Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Keri on October 15, 2011, 04:03:22 PM
Well put!  I don't understand why some people have to try and pick "one over the other" when both were (and are) great.   Unfortunately for Beach Boys fans, the Beatles had impeccable "timing" throughout their whole career, while the Beach Boys had many, many "timing" fiascos, especially after 1966.   

Yeah, isn't it great to have both? The fact that Brian was blown away by the Beatles and the Beatles were blown away by Brian shows that they both had a rich appreciation of good music.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on October 15, 2011, 04:04:06 PM
Well put!  I don't understand why some people have to try and pick "one over the other" when both were (and are) great.   Unfortunately for Beach Boys fans, the Beatles had impeccable "timing" throughout their whole career, while the Beach Boys had many, many "timing" fiascos, especially after 1966.   

Yeah, isn't it great to have both? The fact that Brian was blown away by the Beatles and the Beatles were blown away by Brian shows that they both had a rich appreciation of good music.

Absolutely.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Keri on October 15, 2011, 04:07:28 PM
I guess over the last month or two I've been listening to them a lot, and just want to hear thoughts and comments from other people.


I highly recommend reading Ian MacDonald's Revolution in the Head, it is the most intelligent in depth study of the Beatles work I've read.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: earcandy on October 15, 2011, 04:09:53 PM
I guess over the last month or two I've been listening to them a lot, and just want to hear thoughts and comments from other people.


I highly recommend reading Ian MacDonald's Revolution in the Head, it is the most intelligent in depth study of the Beatles work I've read.

I'm still waiting for a really intelligent study of Brian Wilson's music!  Especially compared to all the Beatle books out there!


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Alex on October 15, 2011, 08:06:58 PM
Check out Phillip Lambert`s Inside the Music of Brian Wilson.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ron on October 15, 2011, 10:10:27 PM
Personally what I enjoy about the Beatles and the Beach Boys is that it doesn't HAVE to be intelligent.  You can play either band for a 2 year old and they'll bop around the room, you can play either band for a 90 year old and they'll hum along.  That's universal, when you start talking about the intelligence behind the music I think most of it was unintended and although interesting, I think it misses the mark of what made both bands so extraordinary.  Extra.  Ordinary. 


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Chris Brown on October 15, 2011, 10:12:30 PM
Check out Phillip Lambert`s Inside the Music of Brian Wilson.

I'll second that - it can get a bit technical at times, but you won't find a better intelligent musical analysis of Brian's music anywhere.  A very enjoyable read if you're a music geek.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Chris Brown on October 15, 2011, 10:18:57 PM
I got into The Beatles rather late in life, after I was already obsessed with The Beach Boys.  I've grown to love a lot of their songs/albums.  The songwriting and production were always top-notch, but as others have said, they've just never had the same emotional impact for me as Brian's music has.  Even their more sincere and heartfelt tunes tend to feel somewhat...sterile (for lack of a better word).  Like they're the product of studied craftsmanship, as opposed to divine inspiration.  There's nothing inherently wrong with that, mind you, but I just don't feel connected to Beatles tunes in the same way that I do Beach Boys tunes. 

I think that's the reason I find myself coming back to The Beach Boys much more frequently than I do The Beatles - there's a sincerity in Beach Boys music that I just don't get from The Beatles.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: JohnMill on October 15, 2011, 11:51:43 PM
I think that's the reason I find myself coming back to The Beach Boys much more frequently than I do The Beatles - there's a sincerity in Beach Boys music that I just don't get from The Beatles.

I remember you mentioning this several weeks back and I found it to be one of the more astute things I've ever read on either band and since then I've given it some thought myself.  At first with the Beatles being my favorite band I was somewhat dismayed that another person could feel that The Beatles lacked sincerity in their music because I myself never found that to be the case.  I think George Harrison said it best when he mentioned (and I'm paraphrasing here) expressed their thoughts, ideas and desires more than anything else.  I always thought there was a great deal of sincerity in the music of The Beatles however when trying to describe the music of Brian Wilson the word sincerity is really taken to a whole other level that I'm not sure any other artist has ever reached.

I think it's why so many people feel a kinship with Brian Wilson.  I remember Tony Asher writing about Brian and saying: "The real wonder of Brian Wilson is not to be found within the headline grabbing antics, the lawsuits or the dysfunction of either his private or public families but simply in his music".  I don't think anyone could've have put it any better.  Brian wrote about so many different experiences but experiences that are common to so many people.  He wrote about innocence, the loss of innocence, first love, heartbreak and finding love again.  His music also spoke greatly about pain.  He was fearless to write about doubts and questions and fears that most of us have experienced but never would have the ability nor the forum to share publicly.  The songs Brian wrote "Please Let Me Wonder", "She Knows Me Too Well", "Let Him Run Wild", "I Just Wasn't Made For These Times", "Til' I Die", "Still I Dream Of It" and "Where Has Love Been?" gave both voice and comfort to more than a few people who have lived the moments detailed in those songs.  I believe that in enough of itself is the legacy of Brian Wilson and The Beach Boys. 


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: JK on October 16, 2011, 05:50:19 AM
I (highly recommend reading Ian MacDonald's Revolution in the Head, it is the most intelligent in depth study of the Beatles work I've read.
Check out Phillip Lambert`s Inside the Music of Brian Wilson.

Agreed, brilliant books both (he said, looking over his shoulder at them on their respective shelves).

MacDonald also wrote a stunning if controversial book about the music of Shostakovich. The section on the Fourth Symphony is worth the price of admission alone.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: rab2591 on October 16, 2011, 07:39:57 AM
Check out Phillip Lambert`s Inside the Music of Brian Wilson.

I'll second that - it can get a bit technical at times, but you won't find a better intelligent musical analysis of Brian's music anywhere.  A very enjoyable read if you're a music geek.

Third. Also, definitely check out 'Brian Wilson: Songwriter' DVD - Lambert explains in exquisite detail many of Brian's songs and just how complex they really are.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Amy B. on October 17, 2011, 07:20:41 PM

I remember you mentioning this several weeks back and I found it to be one of the more astute things I've ever read on either band and since then I've given it some thought myself.  At first with the Beatles being my favorite band I was somewhat dismayed that another person could feel that The Beatles lacked sincerity in their music because I myself never found that to be the case.  I think George Harrison said it best when he mentioned (and I'm paraphrasing here) expressed their thoughts, ideas and desires more than anything else.  I always thought there was a great deal of sincerity in the music of The Beatles however when trying to describe the music of Brian Wilson the word sincerity is really taken to a whole other level that I'm not sure any other artist has ever reached.


The Beatles were it for me from an early age. Growing up in the 80s, I really didn't like any of the music on the radio, except the oldies station...and my mother's Beatles albums. I loved the craftsmanship in the music...the experimentation with sounds, the joy in their voices in the early albums (always made me smile, even if they WERE on uppers), the wit in many of the Lennon songs, etc. I loved the diversity of songs, from psychedelic to vaudeville and everything in between. I even loved the corny stuff, like Martha My Dear. And I remember watching The Compleat Beatles documentary and getting into the story arc of the band, from teenage friends to grown men who had moved in separate directions-- all the while continuously changing their music, and all within the span of less than a decade. 

One reason why people are still talking about the Beatles today is that the Beatles very cannily played up their legend. As ex-Beatles, they guarded their brand very carefully, so that every talk show appearance by an ex-Beatle is an event, and every new Beatles release is something built-up for months and celebrated in the press. I've seen McCartney purposely prolong a standing ovation on a talk show (standing up and sitting down and standing up to make the audience follow suit), milking the moment to make it seem like he's even more revered than he actually is. Huge ego, but he knows how to work his career. And the Beatles broke up early enough to leave people wanting more.

Also, the Beatles were charismatic and well-liked. The BBs, for example, could never compete with that. Compared with the Beatles, they (and many other bands) had zero charisma.

I liked the Beach Boys when I was a kid, but I didn't really become a fan until I was in my 20s and Pet Sounds made me cry (listening for the 20th time). The Beatles never made me cry, and I can see what you're saying about a lack of sincerity. Most bands seem insincere when compared with BW's music, because BW was coming from that place of childlike innocence and vulnerability. I can't imagine Lennon and/or McCartney writing something like "She Knows Me Too Well," just as I can't imagine BW writing "Norwegian Wood." But I love both. For me I feel like one reason the two bands admired each other so much is because each knew they could never do what the other did. The Beatles could never have been the BBs, and vice versa. And thank God we had both.



Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: onkster on October 18, 2011, 08:28:27 AM
I'm with Amy on this. I adore both Beatles and Beach Boys.

I was a latecomer to the BBs, after being a Beatlemaniac since 1964. But SMiLE changed my life, got me into the BBs (yes, that was my gateway drug), and though I still would probably count the Beatles as my absolute favorite band, I would have to say SMiLE has been my favorite album (unfinished, BWPS-version, live, and I'm sure the 2011 version as well) since sometime in the 80s.

Other favorites includes Jon Brion/The Grays, Crowded House/Finns, Elliott Smith, The Who, Elton John, Badfinger, Elvis Costello, Squeeze, XTC, Nick Drake, The Zombies, Neil Young...what a wealth of great music there is out there to love.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: cablegeddon on November 02, 2011, 04:23:16 PM
Please Please Me: 7/10
With The Beatles: 5
Hard Days Night: 6
Beatles For Sale: 4
Help: 9
Rubber Soul: 5
Revolver: 8
Sgt. Peppers: 9
Magical Mystery Tour: 8
S/T: 6
Yellow Submarine: 5
Abbey Road: 6
Let It Be: 4


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Awesoman on November 02, 2011, 09:21:02 PM
The Beach Boys are my second favourite band.

The Beatles are the first. They've been in that position since I was about four years old and I'm sure they'll always be there.

To be honest, I find it somewhat unsettling that the campaign to make the Beach Boys hip again which started in the late 90s and continued throughout the next decade has led to a re-evaluation of the Beatles music. Well, I guess these things can be cyclical - the same opinions were held during the punk era. The Beatles will have their day again.

I'm pretty sure the Beatles never stopped having their day; their popularity has never really waned in the public eye.  And with good reason.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: thevigilanteoflove on November 06, 2011, 06:57:51 PM
For any true, honest fan of pop or rock music in any form, The Beatles are essential, as well as The Beach Boys and many other bands. Not essential that you love them, but essential that you at least understand and appreciate their influence and place in history. That being said, I love The Beatles. Each one of their albums, except Yellow Submarine, consistently blows me away.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Reverend Rock on November 25, 2011, 09:56:27 PM
The Beatles are a huge part of my life.  I was 6 years old when a film clip of them was aired on the Jack Parr show and a few weeks later, they made their big U.S. debut on the Ed Sullivan Show.  Those events were a milestone for a musically inclined kid like myself.  I followed them closely throughout my childhood, and their music has continued to be very special to me throughout my life. 

For me, everything from Rubber Soul on is just an incredible body of work.  I'm hopelessly biased, because their music is extremely sentimental for me, having been such a huge part of my childhood.  I'm not sure I can be a lot of help to anyone wanting to understand why they're so highly regarded.  I think you either get what they were doing or you don't. 

I will say this much.  Very few bands were so capable of reinvention as the Beatles.  What kept me interested in them then, and what continues to excite me about their music today, from a sheer musical perspective, is their eclecticism and how they evolved from album to album, especially from 1965 though 1968.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Newguy562 on December 08, 2011, 11:47:43 PM
I wanted to start a thread about the most famous band of all time. If your a Beatles fan please share your thoughts, list your favorite songs, whatever. Earlier today I conducted an experiment, I listened to all The Beatles albums in order. I can't say that I understand them, they've just never really wowed me. I've yet to hear a song by them that I just *have* to hear again, perhaps the closest I've come to that is I'm Only Sleeping. Sure they have good songs, even some great ones, but none of them feel really special to me. I guess over the last month or two I've been listening to them a lot, and just want to hear thoughts and comments from other people.

My ratings:
Please Please Me: 7/10
With The Beatles: 7
Hard Days Night: 7.5
Beatles For Sale: 8
Help: 8.5
Rubber Soul: 9
Revolver: 8.9
Sgt. Peppers: 8
Magical Mystery Tour: 9
S/T: 7
Yellow Submarine: 4 (why does this even count as an official Beatles LP?)
Abbey Road: 8.5
Let It Be: 6
check out "oh darling"..."it's all too much".."free as a bird" maybe then you'll hear the best of the beatles.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: pixletwin on December 09, 2011, 08:16:39 AM
I don't get the flack that Real Love and Free As A Bird get. Sure, the original demos are beautiful in their simplicity. But damn if RL and FaaB don't put a lump in my throat every time I hear them.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Newguy562 on December 09, 2011, 12:38:31 PM
I don't get the flack that Real Love and Free As A Bird get. Sure, the original demos are beautiful in their simplicity. But damn if RL and FaaB don't put a lump in my throat every time I hear them.
free as a bird is an amazing piece of work :]


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Newguy562 on December 25, 2011, 03:39:52 AM
Please Please Me: 9 (First album i heard by them thanks to my parents..so it holds some sentimental value to me.)

With The Beatles: 7

Hard Days Night: 7

Beatles For Sale: 6

Help: 7 (At first i hated this album the most ..but once i kept listening to it it became one that i definately grew to love.)

Rubber Soul: 9 (only reason it's not a ten is because of "what goes on" and "run for your life"..otherwise it would've been perfect smh)

Revolver: 8 (most say this album is better than rubber soul but i'm not one of them.)

Sgt. Pepper: 6 (extremely over-rated...with songs like "when i'm 64" .."lovely rita".."mr.kite".."Within You Without You"? really? the best album of all time? This isn't even the best beatles album. )

Magical Mystery Tour: 10 (My favorite beatles album...a true psychadelic album :)

White Album: 9 (even though there is alot of filler songs they are more incredible songs that are very important in the beatles catalog)

Abbey Road: 7 (the last great beatles album?...there are a few gems in this one but if they wanted to end with a bang they could've done much better. even for the beatles)

Let It Be: 5 (when i first heard this i was so disappointed i expected to hear a masterpiece  but i heard "dig  a pony", "i me mine", & "for you blue" yikesssss! lol...but there was also gems like "don't let me down"..."across the universe" & "The Long and Winding Road")


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Newguy562 on December 25, 2011, 03:44:35 AM
Who?
My Generation 7.5
A Quick One 5.5
Sell Out 8.0
Tommy 8.5
Live at Leeds 9.5
Who's Next 10.0
Quadrophenia 9.5
By Numbers 7.0
Who are You 6.5

My Generation : 10 (i love every single song on this album)
A Quick One :  5 (disappoiting sophomore)
Sell Out :10 (their beautiful psychedelic album)
Tommy :5 (i like the story but didnt care too much about the songs besides pin ball wizard)
Live at Leeds : 6 (i hate live albums)
Who's Next : 9
Quadrophenia : 6
By Numbers : 6
Who are You : 8


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ron on December 25, 2011, 01:41:48 PM
To me, bands and songs come down in a few categories:

- Those songs you hear, don't really care much for, and never really do.

- Those songs you hear, really like at first, and then they get really old really quick.  LOTS of pop music falls in this category, it just doesn't have staying power. 

- Those songs you hear, really like at first, and they stay good forever.  Most of the Beatles music falls in this category.  I've heard so many Beatles songs where I can remember the first time I heard the song, and I liked it from the start, and still enjoy it.  I would call this the "Mozart" type of Rock; pretty brilliant stuff that's timeless, almost effortless too.

- The final category is the stuff you hear, kind of dig at first, and over time it actually gets better.  A lot of the Beach Boys music falls in this category.  Like Amy said above, the 20th time she heard Pet Sounds she cried.  I similarly grew to love that album.  At first I only liked a few songs, over time I noticed how beautiful other songs were, and eventually realized what an incredibly well done and great album it is. 

I've noticed, for me at least, too, that a lot of good Country music is like that, I mean the old stuff from the 60's, 70's, 80's.  The first time you hear it, you think "oh, that's pretty cool, kind of hokey" and the more you hear it, the more you love it. 

I would say the Beatles are the greatest band of all time, but I'd also say the Beach Boys are my favorite band of all time.  Although these 'categories' are how the music falls to me, I think others may have different experiences, but these are mine. 


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: BananaLouie on January 21, 2012, 11:00:03 AM
My top 5 Beatles albums are

Revolver
White Album
Abbey Road
Rubber Soul
A Hard Days Night


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: drbeachboy on January 21, 2012, 11:13:14 AM
Does anyone know about a Japanese 45th Anniversary Edition of the Butcher cover Yesterday and Today? It's stereo/mono with a few bonus tracks. Says it is a 2011 release. Is it a fake or a legit release?


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Newguy562 on January 21, 2012, 11:27:20 AM
My top 10 beatles songs :)

10. All My Loving

9. Across The Universe

8. Devil In Her Heart

7. Oh Darling

6. Think For Yourself

5. Don't Let Me Down

4. This Boy

3. Dizzy Miss Lizzy

2. Free As A Bird

1. Do You Want to Know a Secret


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Jason on January 21, 2012, 11:28:00 AM
Does anyone know about a Japanese 45th Anniversary Edition of the Butcher cover Yesterday and Today? It's stereo/mono with a few bonus tracks. Says it is a 2011 release. Is it a fake or a legit release?

Maybe a new Ebbetts?


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: BananaLouie on January 21, 2012, 12:49:53 PM
That's an eclectic list Newguy  8)

My top 10 Beatles songs at the moment (I always find these kind of lists difficult, it would be easier to list Beatles songs I don't like because there aren't many!)

1) Paperback Writer
2) I'm Only Sleeping
3) Tomorrow Never Knows
4) I've Got A Feeling
5) Taxman
6) I'm Looking Through You
7) Helter Skelter
8) Blackbird
9) You Never Give Me Your Money
10) If I Needed Someone

Not exactly a balanced list but I do prefer 65-70 era Beatles.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: cablegeddon on January 21, 2012, 01:39:19 PM
Top 20

 1. Octopus's Garden
 2. Here comes the sun
 3. It's all too much
 4. Please Please me
 5. Help
 
 6. Hello goodbye
 7. I've just seen a face
 8. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise)
 9 . Penny Lane
 10. In my life
 
 11. For noone
 12. I need you
 13. When I'm Sixty-Four
 14. Getting better
 15. With a little help from my friends
 
 16. She said
 17. You've got to hide you love away
 18. She's got a ticket to ride
 19. All you need is love
 20. Yellow submarine


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Newguy562 on January 21, 2012, 01:46:00 PM
That's an eclectic list Newguy  8)

My top 10 Beatles songs at the moment (I always find these kind of lists difficult, it would be easier to list Beatles songs I don't like because there aren't many!)

1) Paperback Writer
2) I'm Only Sleeping
3) Tomorrow Never Knows
4) I've Got A Feeling
5) Taxman
6) I'm Looking Through You
7) Helter Skelter
8) Blackbird
9) You Never Give Me Your Money
10) If I Needed Someone

Not exactly a balanced list but I do prefer 65-70 era Beatles.
:] thanks,well i've never been a singles kinda man when it came to the beatles.
wow you're list is very distinctive and interesting :D(always good to see something different.)
You like the uptempo ones...i love paperback writer,tomorrow never knows, taxman,if i needed someone.
I'm so suprised to see "i've got a feeling" i always felt that record was one of the under-rated songs from let it be.
Helter Skelter was the song that started heavy metal.(imo)
You never give me your money,mister paul switched his vocals in so many styles throughout this record it was spectacular :)


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Newguy562 on January 21, 2012, 01:54:13 PM
Top 20

 1. Octopus's Garden
 2. Here comes the sun
 3. It's all too much
 4. Please Please me
 5. Help
 
 6. Hello goodbye
 7. I've just seen a face
 8. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise)
 9 . Penny Lane
 10. In my life
 
 11. For noone
 12. I need you
 13. When I'm Sixty-Four
 14. Getting better
 15. With a little help from my friends
 
 16. She said
 17. You've got to hide you love away
 18. She's got a ticket to ride
 19. All you need is love
 20. Yellow submarine
wow octopus garden, yellow submarine & When i'm 64...yikesss :O
but on the other hand you have it's all too much & Getting better so i have to salute you for even having those beautiful songs on your list :)


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: BananaLouie on January 21, 2012, 01:55:30 PM
Thanks Newguy, I never really thought about my favorite Beatles songs as being up tempo rockers or ballads etc. It's obvious my favorite year for The Beatles just happens to be the same year I think pop music in general was at it's most dynamic and creative, that of course being 1966. Revolver is by far my favorite record by the Fabs. Many fans and critics say the greatest pop music single ever is Strawberry Fields Forever b/w Penny Lane and they're probably right but I really love the Paperback Writer b/w Rain single, it's power pop at it's finest. As I'm writing this I'm listening to The White Album, now maybe I should do a top ten best White Album songs list!  :-D


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Newguy562 on January 21, 2012, 02:07:42 PM
Thanks Newguy, I never really thought about my favorite Beatles songs as being up tempo rockers or ballads etc. It's obvious my favorite year for The Beatles just happens to be the same year I think pop music in general was at it's most dynamic and creative, that of course being 1966. Revolver is by far my favorite record by the Fabs. Many fans and critics say the greatest pop music single ever is Strawberry Fields Forever b/w Penny Lane and they're probably right but I really love the Paperback Writer b/w Rain single, it's power pop at it's finest. As I'm writing this I'm listening to The White Album, now maybe I should do a top ten best White Album songs list!  :-D
I actually enjoy paperback writer/ rain more than strawberry fields/ penny lane. :) To be honest i've always loved rubber soul & magical mystery tour  slightly more then the rest they always stood out to me most of all.  I'm like obsessed with the beatles i love every album they creatted  but lately i've been listening to let it be the most. Revolver has some major records on there but they also have lack-luster material  like (Love You To,Yellow Submarine,I Want to Tell You) but that's just my opinion. The songs you said i pretty love every one of them though. My current favorite by the beatles is free as a bird i find myself listening to that song more than anything else by them. :)..


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: BananaLouie on January 21, 2012, 02:24:27 PM
Revolver has some major records on there but they also have lack-luster material  like (Love You To,Yellow Submarine,I Want to Tell You) but that's just my opinion.

I admit when I first heard Revolver, I did think some of the tracks were weaker than what I was expecting but they quickly became favorites, I Want To Tell You actually has some interesting chords and changes. Here There and Everywhere, Good Day Sunshine, And Your Bird Can Sing and Got To Get You Into My Life all stand as pop masterpieces imo. You mentioned Magical Mystery Tour which I think is the superior psychedelic record over Sgt Pepper which I was mildly enthusiastic about at best. Let It Be is underrated and it's a really great collection of songs which are raw and basic in nature. Paul came up which the idea for the band to "get back" to their rock and roll roots and the results payed off.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Newguy562 on January 21, 2012, 02:42:43 PM
Revolver has some major records on there but they also have lack-luster material  like (Love You To,Yellow Submarine,I Want to Tell You) but that's just my opinion.

I admit when I first heard Revolver, I did think some of the tracks were weaker than what I was expecting but they quickly became favorites, I Want To Tell You actually has some interesting chords and changes. Here There and Everywhere, Good Day Sunshine, And Your Bird Can Sing and Got To Get You Into My Life all stand as pop masterpieces imo. You mentioned Magical Mystery Tour which I think is the superior psychedelic record over Sgt Pepper which I was mildly enthusiastic about at best. Let It Be is underrated and it's a really great collection of songs which are raw and basic in nature. Paul came up which the idea for the band to "get back" to their rock and roll roots and the results payed off.
if it wasn't for paul mccartney then they would've broke up before sgt. pepper lol..yes magical mystery tour was the beatles best psychedelic album imo :) i love every single song on it. the songs that you picked from revolver are the best songs on it and my favorite era is the start of rubber soul and the end of revolver right before they start sgt. pepper ...i like the direction they were going i just felt that john pretty much grew tired of being a beatle and wanted to part ways so fast and yoko only made it worse :/...


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: BananaLouie on January 21, 2012, 02:52:52 PM
if it wasn't for paul mccartney then they would've broke up before sgt. pepper

I agree and the irony is that Paul was actually the one who initiated court proceedings to have The Beatles legally disolved.

i just felt that john pretty much grew tired of being a beatle and wanted to part ways so fast and yoko only made it worse

I can see that and I recently read an article that said George wanted out of the band during the Revolver sessions and that he may have been embarrassed by Paul showing him up by playing the guitar solo on Taxman.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Newguy562 on January 21, 2012, 02:57:12 PM
if it wasn't for paul mccartney then they would've broke up before sgt. pepper

I agree and the irony is that Paul was actually the one who initiated court proceedings to have The Beatles legally disolved.

i just felt that john pretty much grew tired of being a beatle and wanted to part ways so fast and yoko only made it worse

I can see that and I recently read an article that said George wanted out of the band during the Revolver sessions and that he may have been embarrassed by Paul showing him up by playing the guitar solo on Taxman.
Wow smh :/ the beatles have a part of me since i was inside my mom's stomach she is a huge fan of them as well. i found out about the beach boys from my dad he made me listen  to pet sounds :)..so hearing that the beatles were going through all that sh*t is like ughhhhh..even though john was going through differences with mccartney he still managed to make great songs even towards the end of their career. i feel like the person who really got f***ed in the end was george because his writing skills were beginning to peak.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: BananaLouie on January 21, 2012, 03:03:04 PM
And because I have nothing better to do on a Saturday night heres my top 10 favorite White Album tracks

1) Back in the U.S.S.R. (Because it sounds like The Beach Boys, co-written by Mike Love?)
2) While My Guitar Gently Weeps (One of George's best statements)
3) Happiness is a Warm Gun (One of John's best heroin songs)
4) Martha My Dear (If there's a better song written about a dog I haven't heard it!)
5) Blackbird (Not just one of the best on the White Album but one of my all time favorite Beatles songs)
6) Yer Blues (See number 3)
7) Mother Nature's Son (Sounds like something Donovan could've written)
8) Helter Skelter (Paul's answer to I Can See For Miles)
9) Long, Long, Long (Spooky and underrated song by George)
10) Cry Baby Cry (One of the best Lennon songs on the album)


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: BananaLouie on January 21, 2012, 03:12:25 PM
i feel like the person who really got f*cked in the end was george because his writing skills were beginning to peak.

Yes, George's confidence and skills as both a songwriter and guitarist were at it's peak in 1969. Paul apparently said to John in 1969 something like "This year George's songs are at least as good as ours." So true with stunning compositions like Something and Here Comes The Sun. I guess one good thing came out of George being dominated by Lennon/McCartney and that's his huge backlog of material resulted in the ambitious 3 record All Things Must Pass, widely praised as perhaps the very best solo album by a Beatle.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: 18thofMay on January 21, 2012, 03:23:03 PM
Happiness is a warm gun is one of my faves. But is it about the H?
Had he even moved to Heroin yet? 71-75 maybe.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Newguy562 on January 21, 2012, 03:33:10 PM
And because I have nothing better to do on a Saturday night heres my top 10 favorite White Album tracks

1) Back in the U.S.S.R. (Because it sounds like The Beach Boys, co-written by Mike Love?)
2) While My Guitar Gently Weeps (One of George's best statements)
3) Happiness is a Warm Gun (One of John's best heroin songs)
4) Martha My Dear (If there's a better song written about a dog I haven't heard it!)
5) Blackbird (Not just one of the best on the White Album but one of my all time favorite Beatles songs)
6) Yer Blues (See number 3)
7) Mother Nature's Son (Sounds like something Donovan could've written)
8) Helter Skelter (Paul's answer to I Can See For Miles)
9) Long, Long, Long (Spooky and underrated song by George)
10) Cry Baby Cry (One of the best Lennon songs on the album)
i love martha my dear but damn it's about a fuckin dog? ;p lol 2 much spare time for mister mccartney lol


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Newguy562 on January 21, 2012, 03:34:01 PM
i feel like the person who really got f*cked in the end was george because his writing skills were beginning to peak.

Yes, George's confidence and skills as both a songwriter and guitarist were at it's peak in 1969. Paul apparently said to John in 1969 something like "This year George's songs are at least as good as ours." So true with stunning compositions like Something and Here Comes The Sun. I guess one good thing came out of George being dominated by Lennon/McCartney and that's his huge backlog of material resulted in the ambitious 3 record All Things Must Pass, widely praised as perhaps the very best solo album by a Beatle.
:] if not better, and on let it be his compositions for you blue/i me mine is horrid imo :/


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: drbeachboy on January 21, 2012, 03:37:14 PM
So, what's wrong with writing a song about a dog. Most people that have one usually include it as part of the family. Henry Gross' Shannon is another great song about a dog (actually, Carl's dog).


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: BananaLouie on January 21, 2012, 03:41:45 PM
Happiness is a warm gun is one of my faves. But is it about the H?
Had he even moved to Heroin yet? 71-75 maybe.

I think the meaning of the song's lyrics can be open to interpretation ie shooting horse or sex. I think Lennon was flirting with heroin around the time of The White Album and he was into it around Let It Be but I could be wrong.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: SMiLE Brian on January 21, 2012, 03:42:35 PM
So, what's wrong with writing a song about a dog. Most people that have one usually include it as part of the family. Henry Gross' Shannon is another great song about a dog (actually, Carl's dog).
Nothing, except "Wrinkles" from Country Love. ;D


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Newguy562 on January 21, 2012, 03:45:33 PM
Happiness is a warm gun is one of my faves. But is it about the H?
Had he even moved to Heroin yet? 71-75 maybe.

I think the meaning of the song's lyrics can be open to interpretation ie shooting horse or sex. I think Lennon was flirting with heroin around the time of The White Album and he was into it around Let It Be but I could be wrong.
yes he was flirting with heroin around that time i even heard before
everone's got something to hide except for me and my monkey had something to do with heroin but i dont see how.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: BananaLouie on January 21, 2012, 03:51:05 PM
i even heard before
everone's got something to hide except for me and my monkey had something to do with heroin but i dont see how.

Lennon had said that the song was about him and Yoko but McCartney believed it was about Lennon's heroin use.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Newguy562 on January 21, 2012, 04:12:03 PM
i even heard before
everone's got something to hide except for me and my monkey had something to do with heroin but i dont see how.

Lennon had said that the song was about him and Yoko but McCartney believed it was about Lennon's heroin use.
I'mma have to go with mccartney on that one just like how john said paul made get back for yoko lol


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on January 21, 2012, 04:52:19 PM

i love martha my dear but damn it's about a f*ckin dog? ;p lol 2 much spare time for mister mccartney lol


Martha My Dear is not about a dog - there are no references in the song to a dog. He simply got the name for the song from his dog.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: hypehat on January 21, 2012, 06:43:15 PM
i feel like the person who really got f*cked in the end was george because his writing skills were beginning to peak.

Yes, George's confidence and skills as both a songwriter and guitarist were at it's peak in 1969. Paul apparently said to John in 1969 something like "This year George's songs are at least as good as ours." So true with stunning compositions like Something and Here Comes The Sun. I guess one good thing came out of George being dominated by Lennon/McCartney and that's his huge backlog of material resulted in the ambitious 3 record All Things Must Pass, widely praised as perhaps the very best solo album by a Beatle.
:] if not better, and on let it be his compositions for you blue/i me mine is horrid imo :/

If you haven't listened to George's All Things Must Pass, YOU HAVE TO. You'll understand why he gave those two songs to Let It Be (although I Me Mine is kinda cool, if nothing but a fragment). It's the best Beatles solo album. John and Paul's efforts don't come near, really.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: BananaLouie on January 21, 2012, 07:50:29 PM
If you haven't listened to George's All Things Must Pass, YOU HAVE TO.

Not only because it contains high quality songs but it's also produced by Phil Spector who also produced John's first two solo albums.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Newguy562 on January 21, 2012, 09:29:11 PM
If you haven't listened to George's All Things Must Pass, YOU HAVE TO.

Not only because it contains high quality songs but it's also produced by Phil Spector who also produced John's first two solo albums.
it's not the beatles best album imo..i even think abbey road has much greater songs :) though 2 of my favorites are on let it be ...across the universe and don't let me down :D phil spector is an evil genius...gotta love em lol


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Dead Parrot on January 21, 2012, 10:30:29 PM

Lennon had said that the song was about him and Yoko but McCartney believed it was about Lennon's heroin use.

I've seen interviews with Lennon, where he claims the songs is about other people reaction to his relationship with Yoko. Which is strange, as the song was written in India, before John and Yoko even became a couple.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Jay on January 21, 2012, 11:45:41 PM
The "monkey" part might be a sly drug reference, but the majority of the song is supposedly about the Maharishi.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: hypehat on January 22, 2012, 03:44:01 AM
If you haven't listened to George's All Things Must Pass, YOU HAVE TO.

Not only because it contains high quality songs but it's also produced by Phil Spector who also produced John's first two solo albums.
it's not the beatles best album imo..i even think abbey road has much greater songs :) though 2 of my favorites are on let it be ...across the universe and don't let me down :D phil spector is an evil genius...gotta love em lol

i didn't say it was! It's the best solo album done by a member of the group. Which, by the way, is actual fact and if you disagree, you're mental  ;D


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Newguy562 on January 22, 2012, 04:33:58 AM
If you haven't listened to George's All Things Must Pass, YOU HAVE TO.

Not only because it contains high quality songs but it's also produced by Phil Spector who also produced John's first two solo albums.
it's not the beatles best album imo..i even think abbey road has much greater songs :) though 2 of my favorites are on let it be ...across the universe and don't let me down :D phil spector is an evil genius...gotta love em lol

i didn't say it was! It's the best solo album done by a member of the group. Which, by the way, is actual fact and if you disagree, you're mental  ;D
wait r u talking about let it be?


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: hypehat on January 22, 2012, 05:01:02 AM
If you haven't listened to George's All Things Must Pass, YOU HAVE TO.

Not only because it contains high quality songs but it's also produced by Phil Spector who also produced John's first two solo albums.
it's not the beatles best album imo..i even think abbey road has much greater songs :) though 2 of my favorites are on let it be ...across the universe and don't let me down :D phil spector is an evil genius...gotta love em lol

i didn't say it was! It's the best solo album done by a member of the group. Which, by the way, is actual fact and if you disagree, you're mental  ;D
wait r u talking about let it be?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Things_Must_Pass


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: BananaLouie on January 22, 2012, 07:25:45 AM
The "monkey" part might be a sly drug reference, but the majority of the song is supposedly about the Maharishi.

George Harrison had stated that the first part of the song's title was based on a quote from the Maharishi.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Newguy562 on January 22, 2012, 07:56:32 AM
If you haven't listened to George's All Things Must Pass, YOU HAVE TO.

Not only because it contains high quality songs but it's also produced by Phil Spector who also produced John's first two solo albums.
it's not the beatles best album imo..i even think abbey road has much greater songs :) though 2 of my favorites are on let it be ...across the universe and don't let me down :D phil spector is an evil genius...gotta love em lol

i didn't say it was! It's the best solo album done by a member of the group. Which, by the way, is actual fact and if you disagree, you're mental  ;D
wait r u talking about let it be?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Things_Must_Pass
I never spoke on that album i havent even heard it before. The only beatle that i checked out their solo stuff is mister paul :)


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on January 22, 2012, 08:22:08 AM
If you haven't listened to George's All Things Must Pass, YOU HAVE TO.

Not only because it contains high quality songs but it's also produced by Phil Spector who also produced John's first two solo albums.
it's not the beatles best album imo..i even think abbey road has much greater songs :) though 2 of my favorites are on let it be ...across the universe and don't let me down :D phil spector is an evil genius...gotta love em lol

i didn't say it was! It's the best solo album done by a member of the group. Which, by the way, is actual fact and if you disagree, you're mental  ;D

Great album but I'm more of a Ram guy.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: hypehat on January 22, 2012, 12:05:28 PM
If you haven't listened to George's All Things Must Pass, YOU HAVE TO.

Not only because it contains high quality songs but it's also produced by Phil Spector who also produced John's first two solo albums.
it's not the beatles best album imo..i even think abbey road has much greater songs :) though 2 of my favorites are on let it be ...across the universe and don't let me down :D phil spector is an evil genius...gotta love em lol

i didn't say it was! It's the best solo album done by a member of the group. Which, by the way, is actual fact and if you disagree, you're mental  ;D
wait r u talking about let it be?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Things_Must_Pass
I never spoke on that album i havent even heard it before. The only beatle that i checked out their solo stuff is mister paul :)

But.... that's what we were talking about.... obviously.... and... well, I give up


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Newguy562 on January 22, 2012, 12:08:37 PM
If you haven't listened to George's All Things Must Pass, YOU HAVE TO.

Not only because it contains high quality songs but it's also produced by Phil Spector who also produced John's first two solo albums.
it's not the beatles best album imo..i even think abbey road has much greater songs :) though 2 of my favorites are on let it be ...across the universe and don't let me down :D phil spector is an evil genius...gotta love em lol

i didn't say it was! It's the best solo album done by a member of the group. Which, by the way, is actual fact and if you disagree, you're mental  ;D
wait r u talking about let it be?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Things_Must_Pass
I never spoke on that album i havent even heard it before. The only beatle that i checked out their solo stuff is mister paul :)

But.... that's what we were talking about.... obviously.... and... well, I give up
I checked out that album today and i might sound crazy to you guys but i think that album is better than any solo lennon/mccartney album :p


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on January 22, 2012, 12:09:52 PM
If you haven't listened to George's All Things Must Pass, YOU HAVE TO.

Not only because it contains high quality songs but it's also produced by Phil Spector who also produced John's first two solo albums.
it's not the beatles best album imo..i even think abbey road has much greater songs :) though 2 of my favorites are on let it be ...across the universe and don't let me down :D phil spector is an evil genius...gotta love em lol

i didn't say it was! It's the best solo album done by a member of the group. Which, by the way, is actual fact and if you disagree, you're mental  ;D
wait r u talking about let it be?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Things_Must_Pass
I never spoke on that album i havent even heard it before. The only beatle that i checked out their solo stuff is mister paul :)

But.... that's what we were talking about.... obviously.... and... well, I give up
I checked out that album today and i might sound crazy to you guys but i think that album is better than any solo lennon/mccartney album :p

Have you been reading this thread?


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Newguy562 on January 22, 2012, 12:14:39 PM
If you haven't listened to George's All Things Must Pass, YOU HAVE TO.

Not only because it contains high quality songs but it's also produced by Phil Spector who also produced John's first two solo albums.
it's not the beatles best album imo..i even think abbey road has much greater songs :) though 2 of my favorites are on let it be ...across the universe and don't let me down :D phil spector is an evil genius...gotta love em lol

i didn't say it was! It's the best solo album done by a member of the group. Which, by the way, is actual fact and if you disagree, you're mental  ;D
wait r u talking about let it be?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Things_Must_Pass
I never spoke on that album i havent even heard it before. The only beatle that i checked out their solo stuff is mister paul :)

But.... that's what we were talking about.... obviously.... and... well, I give up
I checked out that album today and i might sound crazy to you guys but i think that album is better than any solo lennon/mccartney album :p

Have you been reading this thread?
sometimes i skim through it:)


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: hypehat on January 22, 2012, 05:02:03 PM
Urge to kill........rising.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: SMiLE Brian on January 22, 2012, 06:05:34 PM
What just happened here? :spin


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Jason on January 22, 2012, 06:07:56 PM
U MAD BRO?


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: rab2591 on January 22, 2012, 06:25:41 PM
:wall

I actually miss Ghost.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: SMiLE Brian on January 22, 2012, 06:26:58 PM
:wall

I actually miss Ghost.
I would let him back for a brief period just to mess with Newguy. :wall


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Jay on January 22, 2012, 08:00:09 PM
 :thud


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: hypehat on January 23, 2012, 03:48:04 AM
What just happened here? :spin


It's everybody's favourite, people being deliberately obtuse on the internet!!!


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Ron on January 23, 2012, 07:49:59 AM
If you haven't listened to George's All Things Must Pass, YOU HAVE TO.

Not only because it contains high quality songs but it's also produced by Phil Spector who also produced John's first two solo albums.
it's not the beatles best album imo..i even think abbey road has much greater songs :) though 2 of my favorites are on let it be ...across the universe and don't let me down :D phil spector is an evil genius...gotta love em lol

i didn't say it was! It's the best solo album done by a member of the group. Which, by the way, is actual fact and if you disagree, you're mental  ;D
wait r u talking about let it be?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Things_Must_Pass
I never spoke on that album i havent even heard it before. The only beatle that i checked out their solo stuff is mister paul :)

It's a very good album.  It's also a very cool album with an extra record side of weird stuff, can't even remember but I think it was a long Jam with Clapton or something to that effect.  Really cool album to own because there's just so much interesting material there.  You also get to hear George do things how he wanted, and better understand what a fantastic guitarist he was. 


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Alex on January 24, 2012, 12:28:23 AM
if it wasn't for paul mccartney then they would've broke up before sgt. pepper

I agree and the irony is that Paul was actually the one who initiated court proceedings to have The Beatles legally disolved.


You mean Billy Shears?


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: JK on February 02, 2017, 04:54:03 AM
God I had to go back a long way to find a straightforward Beatles topic!

This is for Peter Reum (he knows why):

https://youtu.be/vAzaOZfgf0M


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on February 02, 2017, 08:03:36 AM
Happy birthday, Mr. Reum!


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: feelsflow on February 02, 2017, 11:36:46 PM
John, this youtube madness!  They won't let your posted video play in America!  So hard to find Beatles tracks -

This fairly good cover was the best I could do...

Happy Birthday, Peter!  Yeah, I know I'm an hour late... that's the way time goes.

https://youtu.be/38uSiYoP29Y


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on February 02, 2017, 11:42:43 PM
I'm surprised that nobody got JK's posting of "When I'm 64" - very obvious reason to post it other than birthday greeting. Though maybe JK shouldn't be clandestine in doing so. Mr. Reum is one of the best posters & he helped Brian, writes good blog etc. Celebrate away, folks. :police:


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Unreconstructed Wilsonite on February 03, 2017, 01:09:18 AM
Happy birthday, Mr. Reum!

Yes, seconded


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on February 03, 2017, 03:07:55 AM
Yes, wishing you a belated Happy Birthday, Mr. Reum!
Thank you so much for all you did to help Brian.
And also thank you for your enjoyable Reuminations blog.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: pixletwin on February 03, 2017, 08:07:45 AM
Yes, HBD PR.  :hat

I saw one  of those video's on Youtube that exposes kids to things outside their experience and records their reactions. Anyways, they did one on the Beatles. The biggest surprise for me was that kids responded the most to George's songs.

Go George.  :3d


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: KDS on February 03, 2017, 09:37:49 AM
Yes, HBD PR.  :hat

I saw one  of those video's on Youtube that exposes kids to things outside their experience and records their reactions. Anyways, they did one on the Beatles. The biggest surprise for me was that kids responded the most to George's songs.

Go George.  :3d

Those are pretty entertaining.  The mostly positive responses gives me a little hope for the future.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: JK on February 03, 2017, 03:15:14 PM
Yes, HBD PR.  :hat

I saw one  of those video's on Youtube that exposes kids to things outside their experience and records their reactions. Anyways, they did one on the Beatles. The biggest surprise for me was that kids responded the most to George's songs.

Go George.  :3d

I remember a documentary about the Traveling Wilburys in which Jeff Lynne described George as "a magic man".

I thought it summed him up rather well...    


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: The Old Master Painter on February 08, 2017, 05:35:13 PM
Have you all listened to the mono mixes?


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: JK on March 13, 2017, 05:12:29 AM
Have you all listened to the mono mixes?

Not a major Beatles fan but I have mono mixes of Pepper, Revolver and Rubber Soul (UK version). Long live mono!

Meanwhile, back at the Beatles Survivor topic, shameful things are afoot. "The Word" has been voted out!

Even worse, perhaps, it's not on YouTube...

http://www.beatlesebooks.com/the-word


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on March 13, 2017, 05:58:50 AM
Quote
Even worse, perhaps, it's not on YouTube...
What's the problem? Plenty sites you can download it for free. Easy solution. :3d

Don't thank me. :police:


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: JK on March 13, 2017, 06:17:19 AM
Quote
Even worse, perhaps, it's not on YouTube...
What's the problem? Plenty sites you can download it for free. Easy solution. :3d

Don't thank me. :police:

I just wanted to link it here----no big deal really. Shame it got voted out...

I don't generally look elsewhere for downloads----I've been waylaid by soft porn sites once too often!


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on March 13, 2017, 06:26:39 AM
Well you can still go listen to it, no? What's shame if the song is voted out? Not to mention you don't read well - "The word" is still there but I can guarantee you that it will not win.

Re: downloads - try other sites or block ads. There's plenty good sites to download music from. Without trouble of signing up.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: KDS on March 13, 2017, 06:44:34 AM
Well you can still go listen to it, no? What's shame if the song is voted out? Not to mention you don't read well - "The word" is still there but I can guarantee you that it will not win.

Re: downloads - try other sites or block ads. There's plenty good sites to download music from. Without trouble of signing up.

Usually with the survivor pool, songs don't so much get voted out because they're not liked, it's just that the other songs are stronger.  Especially with these mid 60s Beatles releases. 


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on March 13, 2017, 06:47:27 AM
I don't disagree but like JK, not big Beatles fan here. For people like me, it's the matter of "dump 1st the song you really hate". As is the case with "The word".


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: JK on March 13, 2017, 09:00:16 AM
"dump 1st the song you really hate". As is the case with "The word".

 :lol

How can anyone hate "The Word"? ;D


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: KDS on March 13, 2017, 09:03:02 AM
"dump 1st the song you really hate". As is the case with "The word".

 :lol

How can anyone hate "The Word"? ;D

With the possible exception of some of the filler from The White Album, I can't honestly say there are any Beatles songs I hate. 

I actually like The Word a lot.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: rab2591 on March 13, 2017, 09:27:24 AM
"dump 1st the song you really hate". As is the case with "The word".

 :lol

How can anyone hate "The Word"? ;D

I love it! For real though, that middle eight with organ and guitar riff, classic amazing Beatles.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: pixletwin on March 13, 2017, 10:18:41 AM
"dump 1st the song you really hate". As is the case with "The word".

 :lol

How can anyone hate "The Word"? ;D

I can't stand the reedy backing vocals and go nowhere melody.

Wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurd luuuuhv.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on March 13, 2017, 11:39:37 AM
"dump 1st the song you really hate". As is the case with "The word".

 :lol

How can anyone hate "The Word"? ;D

Because the word is "love"


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: KDS on March 13, 2017, 11:47:13 AM
"dump 1st the song you really hate". As is the case with "The word".

 :lol

How can anyone hate "The Word"? ;D

Because the word is "love"

Hmm....doesn't bode well for All You Need is Love when it's MMT's turn. 


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: feelsflow on March 13, 2017, 09:35:44 PM
"The Word" was an early Hippie anthem.  The world was more ready for the word love in 1967.  John was ahead of the pack talkin' about it in 1965.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on March 13, 2017, 09:45:18 PM
2KDS: What's your Top 3 in Rubber Soul?

I can't stand the reedy backing vocals and go nowhere melody.
Best summation. Agree 100%.

...doesn't bode well for All You Need is Love when it's MMT's turn. 
Boring, if a little creative. Skip material. Otherwise, MMT is perfect - favorite Beatles album.

"The Word" was an early Hippie anthem.  The world was more ready for the word love in 1967.  John was ahead of the pack talkin' about it in 1965.
Who cares? I listen to song for music, not to analyze the lyrics if it's ahead of time or super-dated.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: KDS on March 15, 2017, 07:46:49 AM
2KDS: What's your Top 3 in Rubber Soul?

I can't stand the reedy backing vocals and go nowhere melody.
Best summation. Agree 100%.

...doesn't bode well for All You Need is Love when it's MMT's turn. 
Boring, if a little creative. Skip material. Otherwise, MMT is perfect - favorite Beatles album.

"The Word" was an early Hippie anthem.  The world was more ready for the word love in 1967.  John was ahead of the pack talkin' about it in 1965.
Who cares? I listen to song for music, not to analyze the lyrics if it's ahead of time or super-dated.

Top 3 on Rubber Soul???  That's a toughie. 

Nowhere Man

In My Life

Girl



Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on March 15, 2017, 11:22:04 AM
Usually with the survivor pool, songs don't so much get voted out because they're not liked, it's just that the other songs are stronger.  Especially with these mid 60s Beatles releases. 

With the Beatles songs, picking the ones I really like or don't care for can't always be explained properly. I was around when these songs came out and remember in many cases what was taking place at the time.
For example, I really like "I've Just Seen a Face" from the Help! album. Not so much for the quality of the song but rather the "good vibe" that I associate with it. It was a hard decision to vote it out.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: KDS on March 15, 2017, 11:51:22 AM
Usually with the survivor pool, songs don't so much get voted out because they're not liked, it's just that the other songs are stronger.  Especially with these mid 60s Beatles releases. 

With the Beatles songs, picking the ones I really like or don't care for can't always be explained properly. I was around when these songs came out and remember in many cases what was taking place at the time.
For example, I really like "I've Just Seen a Face" from the Help! album. Not so much for the quality of the song but rather the "good vibe" that I associate with it. It was a hard decision to vote it out.

I feel the same way about It's Only Love, pretty simple song, and not some of Lennon's better lyrics, but I like the feel.  I can't believe it was one of the first to go.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: pixletwin on March 15, 2017, 05:00:22 PM
Usually with the survivor pool, songs don't so much get voted out because they're not liked, it's just that the other songs are stronger.  Especially with these mid 60s Beatles releases. 

With the Beatles songs, picking the ones I really like or don't care for can't always be explained properly. I was around when these songs came out and remember in many cases what was taking place at the time.
For example, I really like "I've Just Seen a Face" from the Help! album. Not so much for the quality of the song but rather the "good vibe" that I associate with it. It was a hard decision to vote it out.

I feel the same way about It's Only Love, pretty simple song, and not some of Lennon's better lyrics, but I like the feel.  I can't believe it was one of the first to go.

I know Lennon disliked the song, but I love it too. It's so fun to sing!


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: KDS on March 15, 2017, 08:17:10 PM
Usually with the survivor pool, songs don't so much get voted out because they're not liked, it's just that the other songs are stronger.  Especially with these mid 60s Beatles releases. 

With the Beatles songs, picking the ones I really like or don't care for can't always be explained properly. I was around when these songs came out and remember in many cases what was taking place at the time.
For example, I really like "I've Just Seen a Face" from the Help! album. Not so much for the quality of the song but rather the "good vibe" that I associate with it. It was a hard decision to vote it out.

I feel the same way about It's Only Love, pretty simple song, and not some of Lennon's better lyrics, but I like the feel.  I can't believe it was one of the first to go.

I know Lennon disliked the song, but I love it too. It's so fun to sing!

John was often unkind about the songs from the early Beatles years.  I wonder if he would've softened on that stance had he lived beyond 40.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Summer_Days on April 07, 2017, 04:02:05 PM
My heart wants to give every original Beatles album 5 stars out of 5. My head wants The lowest rating to be 4 stars. No other band means more to me..... except The Beach Boys.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on September 25, 2017, 04:59:48 PM
Just found out that the PBS Network will be broadcasting Ron Howard's "Eight Days a Week" documentary on November 25 at 8:00 pm US Eastern Time (but check local listings for time in your area)
Assume this will be during a pledge drive, but nice to see it all the same.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: KDS on October 02, 2017, 08:22:47 AM
Just found out that the PBS Network will be broadcasting Ron Howard's "Eight Days a Week" documentary on November 25 at 8:00 pm US Eastern Time (but check local listings for time in your area)
Assume this will be during a pledge drive, but nice to see it all the same.

I was disappointed that the BluRay didn't include the Shea Stadium concert, which was apparently shown with the movie during the brief theater run.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: B.E. on October 02, 2017, 08:48:46 AM
Just found out that the PBS Network will be broadcasting Ron Howard's "Eight Days a Week" documentary on November 25 at 8:00 pm US Eastern Time (but check local listings for time in your area)
Assume this will be during a pledge drive, but nice to see it all the same.

It's also on Hulu.

Edit: As is The U.S. vs John Lennon. Though, I haven't seen it myself...


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: Lonely Summer on October 02, 2017, 12:46:45 PM
Just found out that the PBS Network will be broadcasting Ron Howard's "Eight Days a Week" documentary on November 25 at 8:00 pm US Eastern Time (but check local listings for time in your area)
Assume this will be during a pledge drive, but nice to see it all the same.

I was disappointed that the BluRay didn't include the Shea Stadium concert, which was apparently shown with the movie during the brief theater run.
That would have made it worth buying. As it is, the documentary is mostly footage I have seen elsewhere. There's nothing in that film that wasn't covered in the Anthology. The First US Visit is a good film to see, too.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: KDS on October 02, 2017, 12:48:53 PM
Just found out that the PBS Network will be broadcasting Ron Howard's "Eight Days a Week" documentary on November 25 at 8:00 pm US Eastern Time (but check local listings for time in your area)
Assume this will be during a pledge drive, but nice to see it all the same.

I was disappointed that the BluRay didn't include the Shea Stadium concert, which was apparently shown with the movie during the brief theater run.
That would have made it worth buying. As it is, the documentary is mostly footage I have seen elsewhere. There's nothing in that film that wasn't covered in the Anthology. The First US Visit is a good film to see, too.

I agree.   I thought overall that the doc was a little underwhelming.  After watching Anthology, there's not much that hasn't really been covered. 


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: JK on October 07, 2017, 06:06:47 AM
This infuriatingly brief snippet is from the utterly wonderful "Savoy Truffle", which has most cruelly been voted out at the "Survivor" topic. Great lyrics, fantastic sax lines, great ambience. Folks, please reconsider!   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNMLQlAO3rI

If it's good enough for Ella...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KmvANzwRWk


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: B.E. on October 07, 2017, 04:27:33 PM
This infuriatingly brief snippet is from the utterly wonderful "Savoy Truffle", which has most cruelly been voted out at the "Survivor" topic. Great lyrics, fantastic sax lines, great ambience. Folks, please reconsider!  

It hasn't been and it's not about to be.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: JK on October 08, 2017, 02:17:32 AM
This infuriatingly brief snippet is from the utterly wonderful "Savoy Truffle", which has most cruelly been voted out at the "Survivor" topic. Great lyrics, fantastic sax lines, great ambience. Folks, please reconsider!  

It hasn't been and it's not about to be.

Well, that's a relief. Thanks, B.E. I don't usually follow the "Survivor" topic so it's all a bit over my head. ;D

Fingers and other appendages crossed that it stays not voted out...


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: KDS on October 24, 2017, 06:57:53 AM
Has anybody watched the new doc "It Was 50 Years Ago Today" on Sgt Pepper? 

I think it's on Netflix.  After watching Anthology, it seems like any new Beatles documentary just pales in comparison.  I mentioned earlier that I thought Ron Howard's documentary on The Beatles was a little underwhelming.  I was hoping that doc would finally lead to official releases of such Beatles shows at Live at Shea or Live at the Buddokan, but that doesn't seem to be the case. 


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: pixletwin on October 24, 2017, 10:11:08 AM
This infuriatingly brief snippet is from the utterly wonderful "Savoy Truffle", which has most cruelly been voted out at the "Survivor" topic. Great lyrics, fantastic sax lines, great ambience. Folks, please reconsider!  

It hasn't been and it's not about to be.

Well, that's a relief. Thanks, B.E. I don't usually follow the "Survivor" topic so it's all a bit over my head. ;D

Fingers and other appendages crossed that it stays not voted out...

Voted off today.  :'(  :lol


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: JK on October 24, 2017, 10:50:20 AM
This infuriatingly brief snippet is from the utterly wonderful "Savoy Truffle", which has most cruelly been voted out at the "Survivor" topic. Great lyrics, fantastic sax lines, great ambience. Folks, please reconsider!  

It hasn't been and it's not about to be.

Well, that's a relief. Thanks, B.E. I don't usually follow the "Survivor" topic so it's all a bit over my head. ;D

Fingers and other appendages crossed that it stays not voted out...

Voted off today.  :'(  :lol
Poop. I've used this emote once today so why not a second time...  :thud


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: KDS on October 24, 2017, 11:41:45 AM
This infuriatingly brief snippet is from the utterly wonderful "Savoy Truffle", which has most cruelly been voted out at the "Survivor" topic. Great lyrics, fantastic sax lines, great ambience. Folks, please reconsider!  

It hasn't been and it's not about to be.

Well, that's a relief. Thanks, B.E. I don't usually follow the "Survivor" topic so it's all a bit over my head. ;D

Fingers and other appendages crossed that it stays not voted out...

Voted off today.  :'(  :lol
Poop. I've used this emote once today so why not a second time...  :thud

Not a Second Time.    There's an underrated Beatles number.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: JK on October 24, 2017, 12:08:11 PM
This infuriatingly brief snippet is from the utterly wonderful "Savoy Truffle", which has most cruelly been voted out at the "Survivor" topic. Great lyrics, fantastic sax lines, great ambience. Folks, please reconsider!  

It hasn't been and it's not about to be.

Well, that's a relief. Thanks, B.E. I don't usually follow the "Survivor" topic so it's all a bit over my head. ;D

Fingers and other appendages crossed that it stays not voted out...

Voted off today.  :'(  :lol
Poop. I've used this emote once today so why not a second time...  :thud

Not a Second Time.    There's an underrated Beatles number.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJRdOhBvwN0

Thanks to a number of MBs, including this one, I'm in the process of shaking off my long-term general aversion to the Fabs (due to excessive adulation by others at school, many years ago). General aversion because there have always been exceptions.

I can appreciate their qualities much better now although no way are they ever going to take the place of Brian and co----or U2, for that matter. Or Beefheart. Or a whole bunch of others. But I'm much more comfortable with them now.


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on January 11, 2018, 07:01:04 AM
The Beatles vs Beach Boys 1964 thread made me think back to that year.
I was 6 years old when the Beatles first came to America (turned 7 a month later).  But I have two older sisters who were going gaga about the Beatles coming here (they saw them when they performed here in September). I remember a sister criticizing a newspaper article for mixing up 2 of the Beatles in a photo (Paul and George); my sister said, "Don't they know anything?" LOL.
 at night it was All Beatles All The Time. There was a Beatlemania program. Also a program featuring George's older sister, Louise.
While in Canada on vacation in June I remember a radio station wishing Paul Happy Birthday.
Was it that crazy in the UK?


Title: Re: The Beatles
Post by: KDS on January 11, 2018, 07:55:06 AM
There were yearly BB v Beatles polls on the PSF too running from 1963-70.   

Looking at those albums, and revisiting some of the material, it's astounding to me that, through stylistic changes, and everything that happened in that short amount of time, that The Beatles remained so consistently good.  Almost 50 years after their breakup, there's nobody since that has such a track record. 

Looking at the modern music landscape, I'm 100% confident no artist will arise to take that crown away from John, Paul, George, and Ringo.