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One of the Howard Stern interviews from way back always stuck with me. He says something to Brian like "You must've had a lot of chicks, right?" and Brian basically comes off as a monogamous sort of guy not too into sleeping around much. I know about the Diane thing etc but I'm wondering about horny girls who saw The Beach Boys play? I mean, just imagine you're playing on stage, and there's hundreds of girls screaming for you. You know they're getting excited. So Brian never partook in this abundance? Even once? He turned down these girls for Marilyn back home? Strange, no?

What about the other guys? Does anyone realistically think Al Jardine ever picked up a groupie and checked her teeth out in the tour bus? What about Bruce? I've heard he's a ladies man but he comes off a bit effeminate to me...

With all due respect (and I may be talking to the proverbial brick wall), why does it matter who slept with whom?

He once slept with me. hey, it was dark, i happen to have very soft hands, and I'm not complaining

I'm all for free speech, but these inane threads are starting to get on my nerves. I like to talk about the Beach Boys in an intelligent, sometimes funny or goofy way. Not  stuff that is just plain weird and not fun or intelligent to read. Ghost would be better off if he posted less, because he has funny posts among the weird or odd posts he makes . :)

Sounds good to me.

I'd only add that BW's always struck me as a shy homeboy unlikely to have joined in the "chicks for free" culture in the heady early days.

I hope that hasn't spoiled ghost's one-hand surfing.

Might be time to bring out the can of "Troll-B-Gone".   Billy?  Jason?  Smile-Holland?   You wouldn't mind, would ya?  

Guy's obviously not getting enough attention here.....

Oh...

He may be a troll, but he is an excellent writer.

............and Joe.  Sorry, Joe.  Don't wanna exclude you from my list of favorite moderators, Jonas!   

So...........is it OK?

I happen to find the subject very interesting. The Beach Boys' youthful shenanigans are discussed in books - is there some reason it can't be discussed here?

OK, as a matter of history, wasn't the story that Brian and the guys were talking about "having a lot of fun" out on the road in '64 or '65, and then Marilyn reacted with, "I'm gonna have some fun then too", to which Brian freaked out and called her via the cockpit's radio after they took off. Then they got married.

I'm guessing that cooled his heels a bit. But who knows.

My guess is that he might have partaken during the first tour or two, then little or none after. Pure guesswork.

And yes, there is always Diane, and the black girlfriend, and...gee, who else is there?

Wow: cockpit. Censorable aviation terms. So: c*ck-a-doodle-doo. c*ck-and-bull story. Shuttlecock. Cocker spaniel. The Buzzcocks. This is fun.

Sorry, gone off topic for a second. Just surprised to see the ol' asterisk turn up in my previous post.

Not only Diane but Barbara too!

Remember reading - was it Gaines - that taking off in the plane right before the European tour in '64 Brian was paranoid that Mike and Marilyn were giving each other the eye and Brian thought something was going on between them and he got all flustered. Or was that around the time of Brian's nervous breakdown in December '64?

Thanks for adding the real info that I'm looking for here. It's true that I spam, it's my method for discrediting my serious posts. If I'm thought of as a fool only a select few - the right ones - will get my message.

Anyway, on subject, what would you guys say is the overall sexual & romantic ethic that The Beach Boys transmitted over the years? We have songs about teenage rebellion from a girl's perspective sung by boys [Fun, Fun, Fun], teenage love's idealist immediacy [We'll Run Away, Wouldn't It Be Nice], the raunchy sexy songs of the Wild Honey Album, the, erm, controversial adult/child sexuality of Love You [and other cuts] {{I can't be the only one who gets such an impression upon hearing "Roller Skating Child", surely?}} etc etc...

Personally I love hearing stories about things like how Marilyn heard a new song and knew it was about her without needing to be told [whether it was or not, Brian knows!]. I find that very beautiful & pure. Brian's speaking to her through the music. I heard that when he finished Pet Sounds he played it in their bedroom on the stereo while they were in bed...... ...... .....

 >:D

Mr.Finch? 'zat you?

Valid post in my mind.  Some levity is a good thing in these dark days.

The bulk of the songs seem to follow themes of romance/friendship/adoration first, sexuality second.

With the possible exception of "Rollling Up to Heaven". And maybe "The Little Girl I Once Knew."

Oh, yeah, and "All I Want To Do", though that's Dennis, so it figures.

I will now stop shooting myself in the foot.

Wild Honey!

Yeah, Wild Honey is definitely about eating p*ssy.

"The Night Was So Young" was written about Debbie Kiel (sp).

I'm sure Brian banged a few fans back in the day...

Not to mention Dennis and Mike

Really? I would imagine Dennis and Mike saying, "C'mon Bri! Get off of us!"

Someone needs to dig up that legendary post about the nude, cucumber fuelled creation of the Today! album...

^^^ wait what?

I remember hearing the stern interview and being curious about the same thing. Brian strikes me as a shy knd of guy and maybe not that confident with women so I can see him taking a bck seat to Dennis and mike with all that stuff.

As for ghost's posts, lance and compost are right. He contributes ample to the board as far as I'm concerned and is effusive and passionate which is never a bad thng.

Knowing how Brian is, he probably STILL sleeps around, all he can! he probably sleeps in the tour bus, on a couch backstage, etc. As for whether he cheats on his wife, well...don't know. Probably not.

The real reason Taylor left the band....

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/230/515086626_bb01d347ef.jpg)

That's a great picture of Brian.

Amen, my brother.

After thinking about my post, I was overreacting to yesterday about that wacky thread "Surfin' is cooler than Good Vibrations"  ghost made yesterday where he had four really crazy posts back to back. I sound like a creep like from "1984".  Sometimes annoyed at Ghost's posts, yes, denying him free speech, that's when I crossed the line.

Triumph! I have overthrown your Big Brotherly ways & now post with Caligula-like pomp and abandon.  >:D

Brian banged Dennis and Mike? Wow this family gets more f***ed up by the minute.

The book writen by their tour manager makes it clear they all slept around. Brian wasn't on tour at the time but I have no reason to think that the young handsome Brian of 61-64 didn't have at least a few on the road flings.

Since you referenced the ancient Roman emperor Caligula and the word triumph, i couldn't help myself from thinking about this quote:

Patton: [voiceover] For over a thousand years, Roman conquerors returning from the wars enjoyed the honor of a triumph - a tumultuous parade. In the procession came trumpeters and musicians and strange animals from the conquered territories, together with carts laden with treasure and captured armaments. The conqueror rode in a triumphal chariot, the dazed prisoners walking in chains before him. Sometimes his children, robed in white, stood with him in the chariot, or rode the trace horses. A slave stood behind the conqueror, holding a golden crown, and whispering in his ear a warning: that all glory is fleeting.



 

Its hard not to have flings when you have crazy girls screaming at your shows every night.

Yes- in the a ni l iz m that I personally live by it is all based on insights into the transiency of ALL things, not just glory. Caligula's glory is no more fleeting than Patton's. Where is Patton now? In a grave I suppose. Where is Caligula? Making love to his sister in the afterlife. Let's start a Dionysus faction of the board that stays up after curfew hours. 

True I 'm not judging them for it.

Ghost, you'd be welcome round my place for a fatty-bombatty any time. Just float on in.

That's a bit mean-spirited isn't it? I must admit that Ghost does come up with a fair amount of pointless drivel, and he is annoying, but he's a real fan and does sometimes write things that are genuinely interesting and insightful.

We're such a bunch of boring old farts here - surely we can accommodate a bit of eccentricity from time to time?

Absolutely, I think there is a lot of pointless drivel on here, from a lot of people (not me of course)

There's nothing wrong with a bit of pomposity pricking

I like posts with humour, because as Brian knows, there's a whole lotta meaning in those little laughs.

How was that book by the tour manager? I read some less than great reviews on amazon.com...

Since I've never seen her, it's high time for a Carolyn Williams picture thread.  :afro

The only description I ever read was in the WiBN book; something to the effect of "my obese black maid helped me with my masturbation, and got me cocaine."

Lets get one going then!

Well there is new info in it. It's gosspy and perhaps unverifyible, but it's a fun read true or not.

As far as sleeping around on the road is concerned with The Beach Boys: I think it's fairly obvious that these guys existed in a world where if there were stray Dennis leftovers, some fun might have been had, but only then.

Totally agree.

The majority of comments on here are insightful and interesting I think.Unfortunately though, as in real life  there are a couple of mean spirited people on here who don't have much of  a sense of humour.

Actually, me too. Ghost, even if you are 'nobody', whatever...you won me over.

I thought we were all here for THE FACTS and nothing else!

Meh...I'm in a jovial mood ^_^

Is that because you like to Master Bait? lol Sorry bad joke! :lol :lol

I wouldn't bother with that book, it's utterly pointless and will add nothing to your knowledge of the Boys other than the fact that Al and Carl slept around whilst on tour.

Still, it's interesting and has some great pics

Nah, the bad joke was in my new user name. First time I've smoked up and listened to Smile in years, and I got hung up on The Old Master Painter. :lol

Did you listen to Smiley Smile?

whatever you do next time, don't try California Girls ... ghost can tell you more about that...

Smile through Holland last night. :)

Right on!  :hat

Yikes, don't remind me of that. :lol

At least it wasn't 'When Girls Get Together'  ;)

time you turned into a GIRL  >:D

Wrong song, but :lol

Well, after the whole Tandyn Almer thing....

(really off topic) - 37!ws - I finally get the name! (took a few hundred glances and finally about 3 seconds of actual thought LOL).