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Title: Jazz
Post by: Don't Back Down on March 05, 2006, 05:10:53 PM
Swing, Big Band, Blues, Acoustic, Latin, whatever you prefer in jazz. List artists, albums, songs, etc. etc.

Listening to a live version of Sing Sing Sing. Can't really do any better than this as far as big bands go. Mad-man Gene Krupa on drums, Goodman on Clarinet, and a hot band to boost. Count Basie Orchestra is fodaing incredible. I thought Glenn Miller was the best thing around, until I started listening to this online jazz station. With Basie, Goodman, etc. etc. Ella Fitzgerald is by far my favorite jazz female vocalist ever. The Andrew Sisters were great too.

Are there any dvds that show Gene Krupa on drums? Man Id love to see his drummin' action.

What is your taste?


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: Jonas on March 05, 2006, 05:15:14 PM
Love it! Im actually takin an Evolution of Jazz class this semester (the only class in that section that I wanted to take)...and I'm lovin the stuff my teacher has been showing us. He plays at a few bars around here with his band, cool dude.

Favorite album for a while has been 'Duke Ellington - The Far East Suite' and my gf just gave me The Best of Chet Baker Sings...awesome stuff!

Also been diggin 'Cannonball Adderly - Mercy, Mercy, Mercy'  :hat


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on June 04, 2016, 02:49:45 PM
Also been diggin 'Cannonball Adderly - Mercy, Mercy, Mercy'  :hat

Yes, indeed. Featuring Joe Zawinul on Fender Rhodes. I bought that as a 45 at the time...

Why has this topic been lying dormant for ten years?! Something to do with Jonas's ridiculous avatar, perhaps? :lol   

To complement the equivalent topic at the PS Forum, this for me is the ultimate when it comes to jazz. One breath-taking moment after the other. And that dainty patter of applause at the end----hilarious! (I should add that I have not been bitten by the jazz bug.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIH3fNUsbnA 


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on June 04, 2016, 04:25:34 PM
Thanks for the link. Was listening to it while the TV, on mute, was showing an old broadcast of the Lawrence Welk Show. The tap dancer was in perfect sync with Mr Coltrane. Surreal 😀

Yes, Jonas' avatar gives me migraines! And am afraid to "bump" a thread as I haven't been here long enough and don't want to be yelled at. But anyway, Jonas listed about taking a class on Jazz. One of the best courses I ever took was a Freshman elective on the history of Jazz I took in the early seventies. Was in seventh heaven.

Love the Benny Goodman concert at Carnegie Hall featuring Sing Sing Sing (have seen videos of Gene Krupa, will look for them). Also Duke Ellington, Louis Armstrong, Thelonius Monk, early Miles Davis, singers such as the Boswell Sisters, Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holiday, and finally some West Coast groups such as the Dave Brubeck Quartet and Vince Guaraldi.

Also fusion groups such as Bela Fleck and the Flecktones, and Pat Metheny - his song, American Garage, got me up many a morning circa 1980.

Am open to hearing some more Jazz; am most interested in  Classic Jazz but could stand to expand my horizons a bit.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on June 05, 2016, 07:13:55 AM
Am open to hearing some more Jazz; am most interested in Classic Jazz but could stand to expand my horizons a bit.

It struck me that there was at least one more jazz topic going down----and here it is:

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,10805

It may give you some fresh avenues to follow...



Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on February 25, 2017, 09:33:17 AM
February 26, 2017 will be the 100th anniversary of the first recorded Jazz song. While jazz music had been playing for a few years, no recording was made of it until February 26, 1917

Livery Stable Blues, by the Original Dixieland Jazz (Jass) Band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9chC3kBlDdQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9chC3kBlDdQ)


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on February 27, 2017, 03:49:12 AM
February 26, 2017 will be the 100th anniversary of the first recorded Jazz song. While jazz music had been playing for a few years, no recording was made of it until February 26, 1917

Livery Stable Blues, by the Original Dixieland Jazz (Jass) Band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9chC3kBlDdQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9chC3kBlDdQ)

Fabulous----to say nothing of the excellent sound quality...

I love the whinnying clarinet----"Barnyard" avant la lettre!


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: the captain on March 04, 2017, 03:28:47 PM
As I've written ad nauseum, I'm a big Thelonious Monk fan. Just spun the self-titled album a few times while I read this afternoon and was (as always) thrilled. Almost giddy, as Monk always seems to be. That version of "Just a Gigolo" is one of my favorite records of anything, ever.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on March 05, 2017, 12:18:21 PM
As I've written ad nauseum, I'm a big Thelonious Monk fan. Just spun the self-titled album a few times while I read this afternoon and was (as always) thrilled. Almost giddy, as Monk always seems to be. That version of "Just a Gigolo" is one of my favorite records of anything, ever.

I found two versions:

https://youtu.be/j07z-42cxPI

https://youtu.be/WRs1mA2jnd8

i should imagine you mean the second one. The first one has a great cover. :=)


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: the captain on March 05, 2017, 01:22:42 PM
As I've written ad nauseum, I'm a big Thelonious Monk fan. Just spun the self-titled album a few times while I read this afternoon and was (as always) thrilled. Almost giddy, as Monk always seems to be. That version of "Just a Gigolo" is one of my favorite records of anything, ever.

I found two versions:

https://youtu.be/j07z-42cxPI

https://youtu.be/WRs1mA2jnd8

i should imagine you mean the second one. The first one has a great cover. :=)

Actually it's this version (I've got it cued up, 7:36 or so into the album). The man liked rerecording his songs...

https://youtu.be/PjPxpCOYqC4?t=7m36s

This is a fantastic Monk album. It includes the debut of his great song "Bemsha Swing."


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on March 06, 2017, 04:37:10 AM
As I've written ad nauseum, I'm a big Thelonious Monk fan. Just spun the self-titled album a few times while I read this afternoon and was (as always) thrilled. Almost giddy, as Monk always seems to be. That version of "Just a Gigolo" is one of my favorite records of anything, ever.

I found two versions:

https://youtu.be/j07z-42cxPI

https://youtu.be/WRs1mA2jnd8

i should imagine you mean the second one. The first one has a great cover. :=)

Actually it's this version (I've got it cued up, 7:36 or so into the album). The man liked rerecording his songs...

https://youtu.be/PjPxpCOYqC4?t=7m36s

This is a fantastic Monk album. It includes the debut of his great song "Bemsha Swing."

Gave that version a listen too...

I guess that jazz bug doesn't like my aftershave or something. It refuses to bite, at all events.

A few pieces do grab me (one or two very firmly indeed) but I fear jazz as a whole will forever remain one huge mystery to me. ;D   


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: undercover-m on April 16, 2017, 01:12:51 AM
I guess that jazz bug doesn't like my aftershave or something. It refuses to bite, at all events.

A few pieces do grab me (one or two very firmly indeed) but I fear jazz as a whole will forever remain one huge mystery to me. ;D   
I'm curious to know what the second one is (one being "Afro-Blue," I assume).

I bought this (https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01INNMYIG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) recently:
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81yYriqenEL._SX522_.jpg)

As I might have mentioned before, Mingus is pretty cool. I'm excited to finally have The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady and Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus in my library. Don't know much about the other four albums, but based on what I've heard so far I can't really go wrong.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on April 16, 2017, 12:38:03 PM
I guess that jazz bug doesn't like my aftershave or something. It refuses to bite, at all events.

A few pieces do grab me (one or two very firmly indeed) but I fear jazz as a whole will forever remain one huge mystery to me. ;D   
I'm curious to know what the second one is (one being "Afro-Blue," I assume).

Well, the other (maybe there are more!) is a track I heard just once on French radio in '67. It's "A Bluish Bag" from Shelly Manne's album Jazz Gunn. What blew me away was Monty Budwig's hell-bent-for-leather walking bass line, which is played with the bow instead of plucked. Astonishing! You only get a few seconds, unfortunately, but it gives you the general idea...

http://www.ifmusic.co.uk/product.php?products_id=11649


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on August 28, 2017, 02:01:09 AM
I heard an unidentified piece by harpist Alice Coltrane on the radio yesterday and so I'm exploring her work. This is the title track of her album Journey in Satchidananda. (I must confess to preferring her on harp than on piano.) Love the droning tanpura!     

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQtEFdyhgdE


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: Ovi on August 28, 2017, 02:40:54 AM
I've just gotten into jazz (the later, more experimental period at least). I only know 3 albums, A Love Supreme, In a Silent Way and The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady. Any recommendations are welcome.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on August 28, 2017, 04:07:55 AM
I've just gotten into jazz (the later, more experimental period at least). I only know 3 albums, A Love Supreme, In a Silent Way and The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady. Any recommendations are welcome.

Hi Ovi. I'm not too up on jazz myself but there are some interesting suggestions by others earlier in this topic.

My own favourite jazz track is Coltrane's "Afro Blue" from the album Live at Birdland:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIH3fNUsbnA 

The captain is a big Thelonius Monk fan----of course, he may drop in himself with some advice...


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: the captain on August 28, 2017, 05:47:01 AM
I've just gotten into jazz (the later, more experimental period at least). I only know 3 albums, A Love Supreme, In a Silent Way and The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady. Any recommendations are welcome.

Are you looking to stick in later (60s and after?) experimental music or are you looking to expand?


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: Ovi on August 28, 2017, 01:58:39 PM
I've just gotten into jazz (the later, more experimental period at least). I only know 3 albums, A Love Supreme, In a Silent Way and The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady. Any recommendations are welcome.

Are you looking to stick in later (60s and after?) experimental music or are you looking to expand?

Hmm, both I guess. I don't think I'm ready yet for the old big band stuff, which I have an (uninformed) aversion towards. But I'm looking to understand the difference between sub-genres too.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: the captain on August 29, 2017, 01:28:23 PM
Here are a few ideas. They all maintain some experimental spirit and are mostly from the 60s (though Taylor, ahead of his time, is from the mid 50s).

Cecil Taylor, Jazz Advance is one of the earlier avante garde albums. Taylor is an amazing pianist (although a bit of a pretentious dick, in my opinion). It might hurt your head. It's worth it.

Miles Davis's Filles de Kilimanjaro came just before In a Silent Way and is to my ears--and as far as I know, to my ears alone--the better album. It was his first album with electronic keyboards on every song, though it did not yet have electric guitar. (The previous album, Miles in the Sky, had electric guitar on one song.) I love these songs, love the sometimes distorted electric pianos...great album. More song-oriented than IASW, if you're into that.

Oliver Nelson, Blues and the Abstract Truth, is a bigger band, but not a big band. Great, great playing from Nelson (saxes), Eric Dolphy (sax and flute), Freddie Hubbard (trumpet), Bill Evans (piano), Paul Chambers (bass), Roy Haynes (drums) and George Barrow (bari sax). That is an all-star cast.

Andrew Hill's Point of Departure is another bigger band, and a more thoroughly composed set of music from the brilliant composer-pianist Hill. Also includes Dolphy, as well as Miles's drummer of the era, Tony Williams, Joe Henderson on tenor, Richard Davis on bass and Kenny Dorham on trumpet.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: the captain on August 29, 2017, 04:40:36 PM
I wanted to give a little more to go on. I realize those little sentences aren't much. But yet honestly, at the moment, I can't spend a ton of time going into the kind of detail I ought to go into for you--and I do apologize for that. But I came across this nice re-evaluation of Filles de Kilimanjaro, by Miles Davis, and I think it says some good things about the album that might spur your interest. (I have never heard of the site before and don't have a clue about it: maybe it's trash in general, entirely disreputable. But this piece seemed worthwhile to me.)

http://www.jazzviews.net/miles-davis---filles-de-kilimanjaro-a-re-evaluation.html

And for your convenience, here is a link to that music. I really hope you like it half as much as I do. To me, this not-quite-fusion, not-quite-post bop, makes it really interesting. This is the missing link, to some perspective, and yet to me it's actually a worthwhile end in and of itself. This isn't an arrow pointing anywhere, it's the place to where more arrows should've pointed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiGf9nQsqe4



Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: Ovi on August 30, 2017, 02:05:02 AM
Nice, thanks. I'm fascinated reading about Miles, even though I'm not familiar with a lot of his music yet. He seems to have pioneered at least 3-4 subgenres of jazz! Is there anybody in rock that can claim to that?


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on August 30, 2017, 02:50:06 AM
Even as a jazz agnostic I have three albums by Miles, Birth of the Cool, Jack Johnson and the magnificent Sketches of Spain, the last of which I heartily recommend.

Captain, I may have quizzed you on this before but i remember hearing something French-titled by Miles on a jazz programme on French radio in the late '60s where apparently you could hear that a piece of skin from his lip had attached itself to the trumpet mouthpiece. It must have been from Filles de Kilimanjaro, unless my memory's playing me up (again).

Incidentally, I can't access your last link ("Selon Brun") and can't find an alternative. Pity.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: the captain on August 30, 2017, 03:29:51 PM
Nice, thanks. I'm fascinated reading about Miles, even though I'm not familiar with a lot of his music yet. He seems to have pioneered at least 3-4 subgenres of jazz! Is there anybody in rock that can claim to that?

He really did: maybe something like a Bowie or Madonna, it's not exactly that he pioneered, but he was always smart about hopping on and advancing or perfecting things that were bubbling up. If there is anything you like or hate, I'd be really happy to dive in and try to help get you further on those tracks (or off them). I know I've been in and out around here and my time and energy are inconsistent on these things, but this is the kind of effort that is very worthwhile to me.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: the captain on August 30, 2017, 03:33:54 PM
Even as a jazz agnostic I have three albums by Miles, Birth of the Cool, Jack Johnson and the magnificent Sketches of Spain, the last of which I heartily recommend.

Captain, I may have quizzed you on this before but i remember hearing something French-titled by Miles on a jazz programme on French radio in the late '60s where apparently you could hear that a piece of skin from his lip had attached itself to the trumpet mouthpiece. It must have been from Filles de Kilimanjaro, unless my memory's playing me up (again).

Incidentally, I can't access your last link ("Selon Brun") and can't find an alternative. Pity.

All three of those albums are stone-cold classics. No question. And each entirely different than the other two, to bring back Ovi's wise comment about Miles's diversity. (And they really only cover one of the several subgenres with which miles is most often given credit for starting or moving ahead!)

The album that includes the legend you're referring to is actually from the late 50s, not the late 60s, and it was called L'Ascenseur Pour L'echafaud the last word of which looks awfully ugly to be French. Looks German to these damn-near illiterate eyes! Also, for the record, I have no idea what the album title means. Rather than Google it, I'll say "Ascension of German Elves." Also, I say "legend" because it has been pretty seriously questioned. But there are plenty of examples where Miles is blowing through audible spittle, I can say that, disgusting though it might be.

Sad to hear that tune isn't working! I noticed that for some reason, that album has very little available online compared to many, and lots seemed to be blocked in the USA. Perhaps that one is blocked where you are (Netherlands, is it?)


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: The Lovester on August 30, 2017, 05:08:58 PM
This is one of my favorite jazz albums: https://youtu.be/xbZIiom9rDA


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on August 31, 2017, 01:15:11 AM
Captain, I may have quizzed you on this before but i remember hearing something French-titled by Miles on a jazz programme on French radio in the late '60s where apparently you could hear that a piece of skin from his lip had attached itself to the trumpet mouthpiece. It must have been from Filles de Kilimanjaro, unless my memory's playing me up (again).

The album that includes the legend you're referring to is actually from the late 50s, not the late 60s, and it was called L'Ascenseur Pour L'echafaud the last word of which looks awfully ugly to be French. Looks German to these damn-near illiterate eyes! Also, for the record, I have no idea what the album title means. Rather than Google it, I'll say "Ascension of German Elves." Also, I say "legend" because it has been pretty seriously questioned. But there are plenty of examples where Miles is blowing through audible spittle, I can say that, disgusting though it might be.

Sad to hear that tune isn't working! I noticed that for some reason, that album has very little available online compared to many, and lots seemed to be blocked in the USA. Perhaps that one is blocked where you are (Netherlands, is it?)

Yep, the Netherlands. Thanks for the clarification! Perhaps just as well that it's a legend----like the audible spittle, it's pretty off-putting, particularly after breakfast.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: Ovi on August 31, 2017, 04:50:17 AM
Nice, thanks. I'm fascinated reading about Miles, even though I'm not familiar with a lot of his music yet. He seems to have pioneered at least 3-4 subgenres of jazz! Is there anybody in rock that can claim to that?

He really did: maybe something like a Bowie or Madonna, it's not exactly that he pioneered, but he was always smart about hopping on and advancing or perfecting things that were bubbling up. If there is anything you like or hate, I'd be really happy to dive in and try to help get you further on those tracks (or off them). I know I've been in and out around here and my time and energy are inconsistent on these things, but this is the kind of effort that is very worthwhile to me.

Do you have a favorite genre?


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: the captain on August 31, 2017, 06:28:08 AM
Nice, thanks. I'm fascinated reading about Miles, even though I'm not familiar with a lot of his music yet. He seems to have pioneered at least 3-4 subgenres of jazz! Is there anybody in rock that can claim to that?

He really did: maybe something like a Bowie or Madonna, it's not exactly that he pioneered, but he was always smart about hopping on and advancing or perfecting things that were bubbling up. If there is anything you like or hate, I'd be really happy to dive in and try to help get you further on those tracks (or off them). I know I've been in and out around here and my time and energy are inconsistent on these things, but this is the kind of effort that is very worthwhile to me.

Do you have a favorite genre?

Of Miles, or in general? Either way, that's a tough one.

With Miles, I tend to like the peaks of almost each era. For example, Birth of the Cool showcases cool better than anything by anyone, in my opinion. I'm less a fan of his first great quintet's music, amazing though it is (Round About Midnight, Walkin, Cookin, etc). Kind of Blue is the high point of his modal kind-of blues (and maybe the high point of jazz). Sketches of Spain is an insanely beautiful jazz-classical hybrid. Miles Smiles to me is the best of his real post-bop mid-60s stuff with the second great quintet. Then there's the electric stuff I've mentioned, which also covers various styles: the songless, dreamy stuff like Bitches Brew or In a Silent Way, the song-oriented Filles, the rock-funk Jack Johnson...

Overall, I like the mid-late 60s music that expanded beyond the solo-like-fire bop AND the overly orchestrated, stiff cool or hybrid stuff. There was a period there where the musicians were just top notch, versatile enough to play legitimate classical music, any previous jazz form, and blues and rock. Albums in that era by people like Miles, Freddie Hubbard, Andrew Hill, Oliver Nelson, Herbie Hancock, Bill Evans, Wayne Shorter, and many others are worth checking out. And yet maybe my favorite musician is Thelonious Monk, whose best work is mostly from the late 50s and early 60s. So there's that.

I should add, I'm not as big a fan of free jazz, such as Ornette Coleman's music or some of Coltrane's later stuff. I'm a pretty big believer in structure as being necessary to frame art. As the great Frank Zappa said in his autobiography, without a frame, it's just "what is that sh*t on the wall?"


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: Ovi on August 31, 2017, 07:27:44 AM
Even as a jazz agnostic I have three albums by Miles, Birth of the Cool, Jack Johnson and the magnificent Sketches of Spain, the last of which I heartily recommend.

Sketches of Spain is an insanely beautiful jazz-classical hybrid.

I've just listened to this for the first time. Beautiful, ethereal.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: the captain on August 31, 2017, 07:56:00 AM
It's one of several examples of Miles working with Gil Evans with spectacular results. Birth of the Cool, Porgy and Bess, and Quiet Nights are some others. There are more, including one "modern" one in the 80s, but I forget them off the top of my head. (Evans also worked on Filles de Kilimanjaro, uncredited.) But Sketches is to me the best of that pair.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: the captain on September 27, 2017, 05:27:31 PM
I was just watching an interview between Josh Summers and jazz pianist Aaron Goldberg (on meaningoflife.tv, via youtube) in which the latter recommended this approach to getting into jazz: start with late 50s or early 60s Miles Davis, and based on what you like or don't, go from there. The players will be good, so if you like this or that one, just go forward or backward in time as feels appropriate. The implication was that more or less all roads lead to or from Miles.

What do the fellow jazz fans think? Is that the best way to dig into jazz?


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: Ovi on October 03, 2017, 07:42:37 AM
Speak of Miles, I got myself a little gift a couple of days ago:

(http://i64.tinypic.com/xmmmw4.jpg)


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: the captain on October 03, 2017, 10:15:04 AM
Some great, great stuff there!


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: Ovi on October 03, 2017, 10:32:12 AM
And at the moment I can't stop listening to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYFachqAup4

So fast, groovy and demented.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: Ovi on July 19, 2018, 04:50:00 AM
Here's some stuff I've gotten into since I posted last time:

Ornette Coleman - The Shape of Jazz to Come
The Dave Brubeck Quartet - Time Out
Thelonious Monk - Brilliant Corners
Cecil Taylor - Unit Structures
Duke Ellington - Far East Suite

+ more albums by Miles, Coltrane and Mingus.

Andrew Hill and Oliver Nelson are on my wish-list, as per Captain's suggestion.

What is the best place to start for Charlie Parker and Louis Armstrong?


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: the captain on July 20, 2018, 06:30:21 AM
Sorry, Ovi, I'm not your man on these. My jazz tastes really only barely extend back to bebop and even less before. (I think bebop is supremely interesting from a music theory perspective, but not especially interesting to listen to.)

I would say with Louis, find his earlier stuff, the Hot Five and Hot Seven music. With Charlie Parker you can't really go wrong anywhere. In both cases, you're really talking about the pre-LP era for the most part, so it's a matter of collections regardless. But I'm nowhere near familiar enough to give good recommendations.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: Ovi on December 01, 2018, 06:17:29 AM
Got into Albert Ayler's Spiritual Unity and it just blew me away. One of the most intense albums I've ever heard. And Art Blakey's Moanin' is another great one.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on December 01, 2018, 01:59:31 PM
Got into Albert Ayler's Spiritual Unity and it just blew me away. One of the most intense albums I've ever heard. And Art Blakey's Moanin' is another great one.

Hi Ovi. Seems our jazz guru has done a runner. I haven't seen the captain around for a while. Maybe this will coax him back. 8)

Thanks for the tip. I'll check out the Ayler some time soon.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on December 02, 2018, 02:25:41 PM
Got into Albert Ayler's Spiritual Unity and it just blew me away. One of the most intense albums I've ever heard.

I listened to it last night and contrary to expectations thoroughly enjoyed it. Some brilliant playing, particularly Gary Peacock on bass. Wow. Thanks for the tip, Ovi. :)


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: Ovi on December 03, 2018, 05:59:27 AM
Got into Albert Ayler's Spiritual Unity and it just blew me away. One of the most intense albums I've ever heard.

I listened to it last night and contrary to expectations thoroughly enjoyed it. Some brilliant playing, particularly Gary Peacock on bass. Wow. Thanks for the tip, Ovi. :)

Glad you liked it, man.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on December 04, 2018, 06:10:07 PM
Favorite jazz is Sun Ra (Arkestra). It's cool & multi-faceted. Would be coolest gift if some kind creature bought Sun Ra's 100+ albums, then sent each via sendspace as zip files for free! :3d But, it'll be difficult task to find the entire catalog.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: Jay on December 04, 2018, 10:26:12 PM
As I've written ad nauseum, I'm a big Thelonious Monk fan. Just spun the self-titled album a few times while I read this afternoon and was (as always) thrilled. Almost giddy, as Monk always seems to be. That version of "Just a Gigolo" is one of my favorite records of anything, ever.
I've been listening to "Brilliant Corners" a lot lately. What a weird, wonderful song.  ;D


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: Ovi on December 06, 2018, 11:44:24 AM
Do you jazz fans think that the genre can be enjoyed as much without a musical theory knowledge?


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on December 06, 2018, 01:26:43 PM
Do you jazz fans think that the genre can be enjoyed as much without a musical theory knowledge?

Great to see you around again, Ovi. :)

I'm not a jazz fan (although I like and even love isolated pieces) so I'll pass on this one. ;)


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on December 06, 2018, 01:28:59 PM
Do you jazz fans think that the genre can be enjoyed as much without a musical theory knowledge?
Yes. Like any other music genre.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: Rocker on January 19, 2019, 01:11:53 AM
Legendary Jazz Label Blue Note Announces 80th Anniversary Year Of Celebrations


https://www.udiscovermusic.com/news/legendary-jazz-label-blue-note-announces-80th-anniversary-year-celebrations/?fbclid=IwAR2Ww0T-JslcFMcsV2ZQmAp93uOMYUNkyemzXyx0mgcmq1IMZ8EyVdG1Btc


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on March 03, 2019, 05:49:28 AM
André Previn, who died last week aged 89, was a first-rate jazz pianist as well as a composer and conductor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZKzTMr1M5E

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/André_Previn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/André_Previn)


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: SBonilla on March 03, 2019, 07:51:26 AM
André Previn, who died last week aged 89, was a first-rate jazz pianist as well as a composer and conductor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZKzTMr1M5E

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/André_Previn
My one and only piano recital featured his piece, LIKE YOUNG.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on March 03, 2019, 12:56:06 PM
André Previn, who died last week aged 89, was a first-rate jazz pianist as well as a composer and conductor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZKzTMr1M5E

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/André_Previn
My one and only piano recital featured his piece, LIKE YOUNG.

Wow, Steve, that must have been some recital! ::)


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on March 27, 2019, 03:19:58 AM
Oooff! Old Tubey pointed me at this yesterday and I knew I had to link it here. ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGZFJXMuWXk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamaal_Williams


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: SBonilla on March 27, 2019, 05:43:17 AM
Oooff! Old Tubey pointed me at this yesterday and I knew I had to link it here. ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGZFJXMuWXk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamaal_Williams

Nice track. Lots of Herbie in there. It veers off into noodle land here and there. To me it's more lounge than Vanguard.  I know it's supposed to be jazz, but an edit version would be nice. I do like it.



Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on March 27, 2019, 02:23:44 PM
Oooff! Old Tubey pointed me at this yesterday and I knew I had to link it here. ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGZFJXMuWXk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamaal_Williams

Nice track. Lots of Herbie in there. It veers off into noodle land here and there. To me it's more lounge than Vanguard.  I know it's supposed to be jazz, but an edit version would be nice. I do like it.

It was that wicked bass line that did it for me. Nice splashes of synthetic sound in there too.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on September 24, 2019, 02:02:33 PM
I found myself pointed in the direction of Henry Threadgill the other day. This was the second track of his I heard and it's a beauty. I looked further than "100 Year Old Game" but found most of the other stuff too abrasive for my liking. I guess jazz isn't really my thing...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9DC-IfJ1hE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where%27s_Your_Cup%3F


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on October 21, 2019, 04:05:58 AM
A nice relaxed album featuring two fabulous guitarists. With thanks to Cool Cool Water for the heads up. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?=1&v=fAi7IeJG-6Y

http://dutchbopper.blogspot.com/2014/07/windflower-herb-ellis-and-remo-palmier.html


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on January 08, 2020, 06:09:35 AM
What happened to all the jazz buffs on this forum? Anyway, this is a piece I was slated to play with a saxophonist colleague in a couple of week's time.

In the end we dropped it in favour of "Misty". It's a gorgeous instrumental all the same:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRA8EOR7Nm0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Remember_Clifford_(song) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Remember_Clifford_(song))


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on September 27, 2020, 06:35:54 AM
This is cheating, since "Jazz Thing" from Ultimate Spinach's 1968 album Behold and See is basically a pop song with a jazzy instrumental break. But it may serve to bring this topic back to life...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1TIcEY84oU

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behold_%26_See (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behold_%26_See)


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: Gettin Hungry on September 29, 2020, 10:35:40 AM
I've been building my nascent jazz collection over the last couple months. I recently started checking out the Blue Note Tone Poet series and the new Acoustic Sounds/Verve jazz reissues on vinyl. I also got the Bill Evans "Some Other Time: The Lost Session from the Black Forest" Record Store Day reissue this past weekend. I still don't know much about jazz, but I'm exploring and now own a bunch more of it.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on November 05, 2020, 03:53:44 AM
I've been building my nascent jazz collection over the last couple months. I recently started checking out the Blue Note Tone Poet series and the new Acoustic Sounds/Verve jazz reissues on vinyl. I also got the Bill Evans "Some Other Time: The Lost Session from the Black Forest" Record Store Day reissue this past weekend. I still don't know much about jazz, but I'm exploring and now own a bunch more of it.

I've yet to be bitten by the jazz bug so my interest is that of a passer-by peering in through the window. :lol

I got to hear this album opener yesterday, thanks to a former poster in this thread, and thoroughly enjoyed it (see wiki link for details):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQCUAlXGtVA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Blakey%27s_Jazz_Messengers_with_Thelonious_Monk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Blakey%27s_Jazz_Messengers_with_Thelonious_Monk)     


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: Gettin Hungry on November 05, 2020, 12:47:51 PM
Hard to go wrong with Art Blakey and/or Thelonious Monk.

I continue to enjoy my exploration of the different corners of jazz. Since my last post, I added a few more albums from the third Record Store Day installment, with Dexter Gordon, later Miles Davis, Charles Mingus and J.J. Johnson and Kia Winding.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on November 05, 2020, 02:53:07 PM
Hard to go wrong with Art Blakey and/or Thelonious Monk.

I continue to enjoy my exploration of the different corners of jazz. Since my last post, I added a few more albums from the third Record Store Day installment, with Dexter Gordon, later Miles Davis, Charles Mingus and J.J. Johnson and Kia Winding.

Did you know Kai Winding had a US top ten hit in 1963 with "More"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-kaquSOLo4

I believe he's also on Miles's Birth of the Cool...


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: spgass on November 05, 2020, 06:05:50 PM
I was listening to West Virginia NPR the other day and they played a Clarinet Concerto by Artie Shaw.  It was a classical music program but in introducing the number, the dj explained he blended elements of classical with jazz. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nkXz1zA4jGE


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: Gettin Hungry on November 10, 2020, 11:14:48 AM
Hard to go wrong with Art Blakey and/or Thelonious Monk.

I continue to enjoy my exploration of the different corners of jazz. Since my last post, I added a few more albums from the third Record Store Day installment, with Dexter Gordon, later Miles Davis, Charles Mingus and J.J. Johnson and Kia Winding.

Did you know Kai Winding had a US top ten hit in 1963 with "More"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-kaquSOLo4

I believe he's also on Miles's Birth of the Cool...

I did not know about Kai Winding's Top 10 hit. Thanks for the heads up. Both Winding and J.J. Johnson were on Brith of the Cool.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on November 11, 2020, 02:46:32 AM
I did not know about Kai Winding's Top 10 hit. Thanks for the heads up. Both Winding and J.J. Johnson were on Brith of the Cool.

Thank you, GH. Talking of Kai Winding, this is one I bumped into while playing a muslcal word game at Hoffman (KW's solo starts at 1:30):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGH_D8FazPc


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: Gettin Hungry on November 17, 2020, 07:54:14 AM
Cool! Thanks for sharing.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on November 25, 2020, 07:35:32 AM
Heard this last night courtesy of Kapitan at BBT (thank you, that man).

The title track of Freddie Hubbard's 1970 album Red Clay features some stunning playing from all involved:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OjuCA-SsJM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Clay (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Clay)


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on December 03, 2020, 04:56:43 PM
This December 6 will be the celebration of the 100th anniversary of Dave Brubeck’s birth.
There will be lots of celebrations available for listening online. Check out DaveBrubeck.com for more info.
A couple of recordings have come out : one is an album of lullabies, the last recordings he made. I wasn’t able to read a review because it was behind a pay wall, but the British reviewer said in the headline that Brubeck was about the only jazz performer who could have pulled such a thing off. I’ve heard a couple of them - very sweet and calming . His Brahm’s Lullaby can be listened to online. It has a delightful video. Great for kids of all ages.
The other recording is called “Time OutTakes.” It’s alternate versions of all but two of the songs on Time Out (the last two songs, Three to Get Ready and Pick Up Sticks, were done in one take. Two other previously unreleased songs take their place).
This is available online to listen to. Take Five is a particular delight, and all are quite good.

In addition there have been a couple of great books that have come out this year concerning Brubeck. Will post about them later.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on December 04, 2020, 03:51:28 AM
This December 6 will be the celebration of the 100th anniversary of Dave Brubeck’s birth.
There will be lots of celebrations available for listening online. Check out DaveBrubeck.com for more info.
A couple of recordings have come out : one is an album of lullabies, the last recordings he made. I wasn’t able to read a review because it was behind a pay wall, but the British reviewer said in the headline that Brubeck was about the only jazz performer who could have pulled such a thing off. I’ve heard a couple of them - very sweet and calming . His Brahm’s Lullaby can be listened to online. It has a delightful video. Great for kids of all ages.

Thanks, Lizzie. Here's the Brahms lullaby Brubeck-style. The video could do with a few more views!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzLDcX-lG98


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on December 31, 2020, 12:25:38 PM
Just got word that Eugene Wright, 97, last surviving member of the “classic” Dave Brubeck Quartet, has joined his bandmates
and is making some heavenly odd time signature fun with them now.
RIP


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on December 31, 2020, 05:39:41 PM
Just got word that Eugene Wright, 97, last surviving member of the “classic” Dave Brubeck Quartet, has joined his bandmates
and is making some heavenly odd time signature fun with them now.
RIP

Sad news, Lizzie, but a great age.

Be well in 2021.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on January 28, 2021, 11:46:28 AM
I’m watching the Ken Burns doc Jazz. Have watched it before but it’s been awhile.
Part 3 spends a good amount of time covering cornetist Bix Beiderbecke. All I really remember about him was that he was in his 20s when he passed away.  But the doc indicated how much Black musicians respected him and that it was a shame that he couldn’t perform in concerts with them . Wanted to cry when he finally got the opportunity to jam after hours with his hero, Louis Armstrong . Very sad life, a shame that no matter the success he had, his father considered him to be a failure.
Looking for a good Bio, plus checking out recordings.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on January 29, 2021, 03:55:01 AM
I’m watching the Ken Burns doc Jazz. Have watched it before but it’s been awhile.
Part 3 spends a good amount of time covering cornetist Bix Beiderbecke. All I really remember about him was that he was in his 20s when he passed away.  But the doc indicated how much Black musicians respected him and that it was a shame that he couldn’t perform in concerts with them . Wanted to cry when he finally got the opportunity to jam after hours with his hero, Louis Armstrong . Very sad life, a shame that no matter the success he had, his father considered him to be a failure.
Looking for a good Bio, plus checking out recordings.

Hi Lizzie. This book about BB seems to be the one you need:

https://www.amazon.com/Bix-Definitive-Biography-Jazz-Legend/dp/0826416993 (https://www.amazon.com/Bix-Definitive-Biography-Jazz-Legend/dp/0826416993)

And this 2-CD set looks pretty good as well:

https://www.amazon.com/Very-Best-Bix-Beiderbecke/dp/B00030B9IY (https://www.amazon.com/Very-Best-Bix-Beiderbecke/dp/B00030B9IY)


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on March 07, 2021, 01:37:20 AM
I’m watching the Ken Burns doc Jazz. Have watched it before but it’s been awhile.
Part 3 spends a good amount of time covering cornetist Bix Beiderbecke. All I really remember about him was that he was in his 20s when he passed away.  But the doc indicated how much Black musicians respected him and that it was a shame that he couldn’t perform in concerts with them . Wanted to cry when he finally got the opportunity to jam after hours with his hero, Louis Armstrong . Very sad life, a shame that no matter the success he had, his father considered him to be a failure.
Looking for a good Bio, plus checking out recordings.

Hello Lizzie. First off, many belated happy returns on your birthday! I hope you are well. A poster at EH remembered you yesterday and another remarked on your absence there, so you are not forgotten. I had your birthday in my diary and onscreen but still missed out on it (crazy day)!

Here's Mr Beiderbecke with a suitably celebratory tune for you:      

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xo47zs7cLE


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on March 07, 2021, 11:31:13 AM
Thank you for the kind words and the link.
Things have been crazy in my world for a while now so it’s hard keeping up with the message boards.
Spent yesterday listening via Zoom to some fascinating history lectures.
Had a goofy dream that involved Al (for some reason he’s been in at least 3 of my dreams over the years). I told him that I was impressed that his cat knew how to play the mandolin. He looked at me as if I was crazy. Said he didn’t have a mandolin (does he have a cat?) Don't know why I dreamt that as I haven’t seen any mandolin playing by man, woman or cat in quite a while.  :lol


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: JK on March 08, 2021, 03:54:44 AM
Thank you for the kind words and the link.
Things have been crazy in my world for a while now so it’s hard keeping up with the message boards.
Spent yesterday listening via Zoom to some fascinating history lectures.
Had a goofy dream that involved Al (for some reason he’s been in at least 3 of my dreams over the years). I told him that I was impressed that his cat knew how to play the mandolin. He looked at me as if I was crazy. Said he didn’t have a mandolin (does he have a cat?) Don't know why I dreamt that as I haven’t seen any mandolin playing by man, woman or cat in quite a while.  :lol

Glad to hear you seem to be okay if a little busy. That's one heck of a dream!! ;D

As for mandolin playing (by a person), Smiley poster aeijtzsche has a SoundCloud page of her playing music by Handel on electric mandolin. Highly recommended!

https://soundcloud.com/joshilyn-hoisington/sets/handel-french-ouvertures-project


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on March 10, 2021, 10:55:45 AM
Thanks!


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: Rocker on April 29, 2021, 10:38:18 AM
Earliest Jazz Fest tapes discovered after 20-year quest: Historic performances are heard again


https://www.nola.com/entertainment_life/music/article_eb6af96e-a824-11eb-a3b8-3b240c817cf6.html?fbclid=IwAR209UdL_aE_vTAuotyoFBWU_cRBGsVQkxFQr3K8sP5SvKq6r0VmsGOY9bs



This was posted by WWOZ 90.7 FM New Orleans on facebook:



It's the second weekend of Jazz Festing In Place on WWOZ and New Orleans music writer Keith Spera has the scoop on how the Jazz & Heritage Foundation Archive's Rachel Lyons has been seeking recordings from the first Jazz Fest in 1970 for 20 years-- and how, finally, she got a hold of them. This is quite the story.
Hear some of these recordings on Jazz Festing In Place this weekend, including Dukes of Dixieland, Germaine Bazzle, Duke Ellington, Al Hirt, and Louis Cottrell. Others, which aired last weekend, including Preservation Hall Jazz Band, The Meters, Pete Fountain, Mahalia Jackson, and Clifton Chenier, are available to hear for one more week on WWOZ's 2-week archive. https://www.wwoz.org/listen/archive/
Tune in to Jazz Festing In Place 11am-7pm CT, Thursday through Sunday, at wwoz.org!


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: Rocker on September 27, 2022, 02:02:07 AM
Maybe someone could help me. A friend of mine who is a drummer is going to marry and I want to give him a cool LP. Since he has not a lot of experience in Jazz I thought of giving him a classic album that showcases great Jazz drumming. But I'm not that knowledgable in Jazz either. So do you have any recommendations? I thought of people like Art Blakey, Jimmy Cobb, Elvin Jones.


Title: Re: Jazz
Post by: Rocker on March 02, 2023, 12:09:23 PM
Wayne Shorter, jazz saxophone pioneer, dies at 89
Shorter, a tenor saxophonist, made his debut in 1959 and would go on to be a foundational member of two of the most seminal jazz groups: Art Blakey’s Jazz Messengers and the Miles Davis Quintet.


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/wayne-shorter-jazz-saxophone-pioneer-dies-89-rcna73145