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Mike Love's official Facebook page has just posted this link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjWyFBoEOXs

... which of course begs the question - do they know it's an unreleased track ?  Have to say, it's the cleanest version I've heard in some 20 years.  ::)

Wooah...never knew they'd done this, when was it recorded, sounds circa 1985-90 ? Assume this wasn't a tie-in to the film Calendar Girls (as the Youtube background picture would suggest) ?

http://www.youtube.com/user/1backoffice#p/u/7/kXqPpYYf0-0

This one from the same source feels pretty high up in the food chain too...

//RD

I'm hearing different and better mixes of tracks on this guys youtube  channel...Palisades Park sounds cleaner, brighter and better to me anyways...

I have to say that's a mighty interesting YouTube account... Lots of stuff that I've never heard with such a great sound quality on any bootleg probably sounds a lot better than it does on all those bootlegs that I've never heard.

Wow, fascinating indeed. Please tell me someone is going to rip this stuff before it gets taken down...

P.S. Calendar Girls was recorded between August and September of '78 (per Bellagio).

This just shows how dumb the BBs were at mixing Brian's late 70s genius. "Palisades Park"? Carl says, "mix out those great chimes, it's way too beautiful and Spectorish." "Calendar Girl"? Carl says, "Brian just wrote a brilliant synthesizer part, let's make sure you can barely hear it." And they wonder why Brian would go home.

It may not be a Beach Boys expert putting this stuff up there. “Moon Down”? It’s actually “Moon Dawg” from the Surfin’ Safari album. Best quality sound I’ve ever heard. I’d like to have the whole album the same quality sound as this!

Same with “Walkin’”. The sound quality is much better sounding than the boot. And "I just Got My Pay" – pretty darn clear! And “Lookin’ Down the Coast" too. Am I hearing things or is this better sounding than on the boots?

“Blowin’ In The Wind”. Is this from SOT 10, the Party outtakes or a different version? Is this from 1965? Al sounds great!

Break Away. Damn, those guys were so tight on the vocals!!

I didn't really hear  much of an improvment on Walkin', to be honest.

Ahem...  Thank you, Mr. Love! : "There's also a version of "Calendar Girl" that was recorded at Criteria Studios, at the very beginning of the sessions for L.A. Light.  Seems like someone has played it for me before, and it wasn't at all the quality I remembered it being in the studio."  http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,9734.msg169283.html#msg169283  "... the same can be said for the early versions of songs from 15 Big Ones."

Here's the truly interesting bit - "Calender Girl" was put up on Mike's FB page yesterday pm UK time. When I went to YouTube, guess when it'd been put up ? Yup... yesterday, and when I listened I was the 18th person to do so.

Now, my surname may not be Holmes but I think I can see dots being joined here...

Edit: just listened a bit more. "Califirnia Dreamin'" is the original, Radio Shack version from 1982/3, just as "California Callin'" is the original version from the initial mix of the 1985 album that was rejected by both the band and Caribou. All the BB stuff went up yesterday. All of it is in a quality that ranges from excellent to near-master.

Are you suggesting "spoilers"?

Which funnily enough is one of River Song's catchphrase. And the BBs worked on a version of River Song.  Whoops... too long in front of a a computer screen...

I Just Got My Pay sounds very good  -  but Til I Die has some sound quality probs not unlike the booted version. Seems to have been edited down though to just the pertinent audible vocal parts -  no gaps but incomplete vox too.

Chapel of Love has gone up within the last hour and (so far -  I'm listening as I type) sounds like the released 15 BOs version.

Anyone hearing mixes/version they've not heard before?

Edit – The guy's based in the Netherlands according to his profile – I'm guessing just a very good collection of boots, ands the fact that whoever's running Mike's FB page assumed it was the LBWL version of Calendar Girls.

Great version of Blowin' In The Wind, have informed one of my rabid Dylanologist friends about this on the off-chance he hasn't heard it before !

Timing is exactly the same as the SoT Party box version. Guessing that's the source.

Ha that was brilliant. Not sure many folks her understood that reference.  :lol

Sandy She Needs Me doesn't sound terribly interesting without Brian's raspy vocal.

Er... listen again - different track, different recording. This is "Sandy...", not "Sherry...".  There is actually a lead vocal recorded for this, by my ol' pal Will Brision.

Its the same backing track though, nes pa?

Yes, yes; Precision Brision   :-D

I must say I haven't listened to "I just got my pay" in ages.  I forgot how much I loved that song!  It really is a fun song, especially the part "Monday morning I'm up and at 'em..."   Anyone else like this song?

Also, just listening again to Sandy She Needs Me...wow...probably one of my favorite unreleased tracks by the group.  The ending is just spine chilling...so so good and it went unfinished...mind boogling.... 

Nice to hear the 1974 version of Good Timin' in such good quality.  To be honest, I think the backing track sounds better (and more commercial!) compared to the released version.

Nope - the tracks for "Sherry" and "Sandy" are entirely different recordings. "Sherry" has no '65 bvs.

"Calendar Girl" really could have added some much-needed punch to the Light Album...

Oh really? I always assumed they were the same. The backing tracks sound so similar. Must give them both another listen.

Not having heard the '70 version of "Back Home" before, I was surprised they reused the verse melody from "Merry Christmas, Baby". While previously unreleased melodies were fair game for rewrites and re-recordings throughout the 60s and early 70s, I can't think of another Beach Boys track from this period that blatantly reuses a released song's melody. Maybe that's one of the reasons "Back Home" didn't make the cut until '76, by which time Brian rewrote the verse melody.

The 1975 recording of "Back Home" used on 15BO is melodically and lyrically almost identical to the version Brian cut at the same Western session as the track for "Run-Around Lover", June 14th 1963. Thus, not a re-write.  ;D

What about "Little Deuce Cope" and "Little Saint Nick"? :lol

Similar, but the melodies are different!

As to AGD's comment: Right, I forgot about the track cut in '63 (which I have heard); interesting that Brian just went back to his original inspiration.

Here we go again - another nice gig, pro-shot, good sound.  Different YouTube contributor.

Link, please?

Forgive me if I've missed something in that statement, Andrew, but as you probably know, the '63 version of "Back Home" has very different lyrics than the '76 version. Even the melody in some places is different. It sure seems like a re-write to me.

Same with the '70 version. I wish Brian and Al would have finished that. Sounds like around the time Brian & Al's "Good Time" was recorded. Same kinda piano as the "Awake" demo too.

The lyrics for the 1963 version are the exact same as the 15BO version, except for a middle eight(?) section that was cut out. It's the 1970 version that is very different from the 15BO version.

Intro and middle of the song is different between the two, Jay. I ain't an amateur here when it comes to these here Beach Boys songs, both released and unreleased. But thanks for comin' by, eh?

"Well I miss bein’ here with ya’all but I won’t be frettin’. Well I’ll be workin’ with Pa till we hear that “Come and get it!”

I'd venture to say that's the late great Steve Douglas on sax!

Judge for yourselves:

Back Home 1963 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqV2Xfvzli0)

... and I clean forgot about the chorus being absent, but it's obvious even to George Harrison that it's the same song.

BTW, it's "won't regret it", not "won't be frettin'"... and yes, Mr. D on sax.  ;D

OK, given some of the horrible factual errors in recent postings - California's "Jamaica Farewell" credited to "Beach Boys (Mike Love)", and a track from the first Flame album listed as a BB song - I've refined my theory that these might be "official" leaks... or if they are, then said officialdom knows roughly as much about The Beach Boys as I do about electoral procedure in the 17th century Songhai empire.

Not entirely out of the realms of possibility... But an 'official' bootleg youtube channel seems too good to be true. I think this is someone reupping the collection.

Well if George thought it was the same, it must be the same!  Except for the intro and the middle part of the song. And AGD forgot to put the song in the "Unreleased" section of his site! How come? Not considered unreleased?


It sure is, by golly!  I was in a hurry to answer Mr. Jay's correction.  Jay is a smart cookie, you know!

Because "Back Home", composed by Wilson B. & Norberg R. has been released. Well, can't speak for everyone else, of course, but it's on my copy of 15 Big Ones.

Maybe it's just a finger print of familiarity but the chorus on the 15BO version just makes the song feel like it's going somewhere.

I shouldn't dignify your smart ass tone with a reply, but you're starting to really piss me off. Perhaps you, Mr. Mikie, should brush up on your beach boys 101. Perhaps then you wouldn't feel so flustered when people correct your misinformation.

Jay bud. I've been a fan and collector of The Beach Boys since 1970.  And as unbelievable as it may seem, between 1970 and now, I've picked up a few things here and there, material wise and knowledge wise, concerning the band.

When were you born, son?  How long have you been into the Beach Boys?  Just curious.

P.S. Oh yeah, between you and me? I don't give a rat's posterior if I piss you off!  ;D

man it's hot in here

Sorry folks, here y'go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs_sLXjkffc

I've had that show on VHS for ages...
Nothing new about it
//RD

Fair do's -  new to me!

True, just saying that it hasn't surfaced mystically like the Olympia or 1backoffice

I think the latest upload proves this beyond doubt. It's listed as "Dennis Wilson" - Seasons (vocal)".  What it actually is, is a track from Elton John's soundtrack to the 1971 Friends movie, complete with EJ vocals towards the end. Either this guy doesn't listen before uploading, or he has seriously impaired hearing.

I've got a very good feeling that I know who this person is. He was suspended once already. He had some curios Imagination "outtakes", that didn't sound much like Brian at all. He also uploaded the Brian and Mike version of Why Don't They Let Us Fall In Love, and the River Deep, Mountain High outtake.

Wait, is this post stating that the sunflower era version of Back Home borrows from Merry Christmas Baby?  and the 75 cut of Back Home borrows from Run-Around Lover? Or is it stating that the 75 version is identical to the version cut at the same place and/or date as where Run-Around Lover was cut?   

I think didn't read this in context.

The released 15 BIG ONES version of "Back Home" uses the same verse melody that Brian used back when he first cut the song back in '63 (apparently recorded during the same session in which he cut "Run-around Lover"); the unreleased version of "Back Home" from 1970 changes the verse melody to the one already used in "Merry Christmas, Baby". Therefore, Brian returned to his original melody when reworking the song for release on 15 BIG ONES.

good call, thanks. i needed some clarification. man, run around lover and back home at ONE sessions?
Two fantastic cuts that SHOULD have been on BB albums/singles.
Run-Around Lover is actually one of my favorite early productions.

June 14th 1963, at Gold Star, 11.30am-2.30pm.

Musicians were:

Hal Blaine
Carol Kaye
David Gates
Jay Migliori
Steve Douglas
Brian Wilson

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this was the first time Brian used Gold Star, and is his first documented use of any of the Wrecking Crew (both Hal & Carol claim to have played on "Surfin' USA": the AFM sheet and the memory of one David Marks say they didn't).

OK, so who's the dweeb singing that "lead vocal" on the alternate version of "Your Imagination"? 

I'm guessing... Joe Thomas ?

Compare the intro guitar to alternate Your Imagination and I Can Hear Music (Kathy Troccoli) both produced by Thomas....

//RD

No clue as to who this person is that has been uploading all this material to Youtube, but they have quite the collection of unreleased content.  Although there are definitely some gems to be found in there, I can understand why most of this stuff was never released.  Some of it is just plain lousy.  And when you consider some of the material that actually found its way onto the group's albums, that is saying a lot.