Title: Who-sings-what vocal questions Post by: CenturyDeprived on January 07, 2011, 06:45:24 PM duplicate post
Title: Re: Who-sings-what vocal questions Post by: LetHimRun on January 07, 2011, 08:41:38 PM 1. Mike.
Title: Re: Who-sings-what vocal questions Post by: Mikie on January 07, 2011, 10:07:41 PM Listening to SOT Vol. 7, first and second vocal overdubs, and vocals only (also on the Hawthorne CD and on DVD).
It's either Brian and Mike in unison or Brian doubling his own vocal. I'll put my money on Brian and Mike on the intro. Title: Re: Who-sings-what vocal questions Post by: donald on January 07, 2011, 10:39:45 PM a little throaty so as to make one think of Dennis,,,,,,
Title: Re: Who-sings-what vocal questions Post by: The Shift on January 08, 2011, 03:06:16 AM respectfully suggest this is added to the definitive vox credits thread?
Title: Re: Who-sings-what vocal questions Post by: c-man on January 08, 2011, 08:32:34 AM I did an extensive treatment on the "Kiss Me, Baby" vocal arrangement for my "Beach Boys Today!" essay at www.beachboysarchives.com:
When recording the complex vocal arrangement a month later, the Boys required several “punchins” to achieve the optimal balance when shifting gears from Intro to Verse to Chorus and back again: in the Intro, Mike and Brian sing the descending “Ahh-ahh-ahh-ahh” part in unison the first two times, then Brian splits into his high falsetto while Mike continues his original line (this time as “whooh” instead of “ahh”), supported now by the other three in the background, ending this third rep on a higher note. There is then an audible “punch” (detectible on the original session tape, but effectively covered up by echo on the Hawthorne, California a cappella mix). In the verses, Mike and Brian are again singing unison on the first two lines, then there is another punch (this time most noticeable on the “Hawthorne” mix), and they trade lines as Brian’s falsetto soars on “Can’t remember…” with Carl, Alan and Dennis singing “ahh-ooh” in the background, then it’s Mike’s turn at the lead on “Late, late last night…” with “oohs” by Carl, Alan and Dennis, then Brian returning on falsetto with “But I remember…”, again supported in the background by the other three, and finally Mike wrapping things up with “We both had a broken heart” as Carl and Al join him on three-part harmony (these lyrics are, of course, from the first verse…different lyrics are sung in the second verse, but the arrangement is the same). The level of Mike’s voice changes radically from the last word of the verse to the first word of the chorus, indicating another punch-in. Mike does a great job singing the bass notes on “Woah, baby” (he’s joined by Carl in a higher range on the second, fourth, fifth, and seventh times), while Brian pours out the title line “Kiss me, baby” in falsetto (joined in a lower harmony by Dennis), and Carl and Alan sing “Kiss a little bit, fight a little bit” just loud enough to hear it, in a lower register in the background.. Finally, after the “love to hold you” line is sung by Brian and Dennis, another punch was likely needed to get Brian back to the part he sings in unison with Mike at the start of the next verse. Yet another punch is definitely audible at approximately 1:36, as Brian launches into “Told my folks that…”. The same punch pattern is then repeated over the next verse-to-chorus transition. It’s worth noting that the tail-end of an earlier take survives on the un-faded original tape, and we can hear Dennis singing an alternate chorus lyric (which sounds like “please bless my heart” where “to hold you tight” would normally be); Brian can also be heard proclaiming “That was sloppy…you guys!” just before the tape cuts off. The exact same process for recording the vocals was repeated as a doubletrack on the one open track of the second stage tape, with the exception that the opening “Ahh” by Mike and Brian was not doubled (Andrew Sandoval’s stereo mix used on the first edition of the Endless Harmony Soundtrack has this opening “Ahh” mostly panned to one side; Mark Linett’s remix on the second and third editions, as well as his a cappella mix on Hawthorne, California, moves this part across the stereo spectrum, so the fact that it is in “mono” becomes less noticeable). Title: Re: Who-sings-what vocal questions Post by: bgas on January 08, 2011, 11:23:30 AM I did an extensive treatment on the "Kiss Me, Baby" vocal arrangement for my "Beach Boys Today!" essay at www.beachboysarchives.com: I do love this song, but I could probably listen a thousand more times, and never pick out all of the detail you have! Thanxx for an interesting read. Title: Re: Who-sings-what vocal questions Post by: LetHimRun on January 08, 2011, 03:59:08 PM Listening to SOT Vol. 7, first and second vocal overdubs, and vocals only (also on the Hawthorne CD and on DVD). It's either Brian and Mike in unison or Brian doubling his own vocal. I'll put my money on Brian and Mike on the intro. You can definitely hear Mike, especially on the 5th note. His distinct nasal sound is heard there. It is very hard to tell if it is him double tracked or Brian harmonizing in unison because there is definitely a second voice going. I could see Brian being the second voice. Mike doesn't blend quite as well as Brian does, so I can see how it could be both. Title: Re: Who-sings-what vocal questions Post by: c-man on January 08, 2011, 09:01:56 PM Listening to SOT Vol. 7, first and second vocal overdubs, and vocals only (also on the Hawthorne CD and on DVD). It's either Brian and Mike in unison or Brian doubling his own vocal. I'll put my money on Brian and Mike on the intro. You can definitely hear Mike, especially on the 5th note. His distinct nasal sound is heard there. It is very hard to tell if it is him double tracked or Brian harmonizing in unison because there is definitely a second voice going. I could see Brian being the second voice. Mike doesn't blend quite as well as Brian does, so I can see how it could be both. Um, like I said above...it's Brian & Mike singing in unison. :) Title: Re: Who-sings-what vocal questions Post by: Mikie on January 08, 2011, 11:44:55 PM And like I said above C-man, it's Brian & Mike singing in unison. ;D
Title: Re: Who-sings-what vocal questions Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on January 09, 2011, 12:29:11 AM And I like I've always thought but never posted because I just found this thread, it's Brian & Mike singing in unison. :D
:lol Title: Re: Who-sings-what vocal questions Post by: LetHimRun on January 09, 2011, 10:58:25 AM Listening to SOT Vol. 7, first and second vocal overdubs, and vocals only (also on the Hawthorne CD and on DVD). It's either Brian and Mike in unison or Brian doubling his own vocal. I'll put my money on Brian and Mike on the intro. You can definitely hear Mike, especially on the 5th note. His distinct nasal sound is heard there. It is very hard to tell if it is him double tracked or Brian harmonizing in unison because there is definitely a second voice going. I could see Brian being the second voice. Mike doesn't blend quite as well as Brian does, so I can see how it could be both. Um, like I said above...it's Brian & Mike singing in unison. :) LOL...I saw that you said it, but someone barely beat you. ;) Title: Re: Who-sings-what vocal questions Post by: bgas on January 09, 2011, 02:32:26 PM A few things I've wondered for awhile: 1. Is that Dennis singing the opening wordless line of "Kiss Me Baby"? The pretty "ahhh ahhh ahhh ahhh..." line? I keep thinking it's Dennis, but then I feel like it's Brian or Mike sometimes. Anyone know? 2. Who is doing the laughing in "Punchline"? Is it the Boys themselves? The very 1st laugh you hear at 0:18 sounds so awful and forced, I can understand why this never was released on an actual album. Strangely, I think I recognize that exact laugh from an outtake/session of some sort from the Smile era, but I can't seem to recall exactly where from. And like I said above C-man, it's Brian & Mike singing in unison. ;D Yeah, but Mikie, do you mean on KMB or Punchline? Title: Re: Who-sings-what vocal questions Post by: Mikie on January 09, 2011, 02:46:10 PM What do you think I mean, Bgas?
Title: Re: Who-sings-what vocal questions Post by: bgas on January 09, 2011, 02:54:13 PM What do you think I mean, Bgas? If I could read your mind, Mikie What a tale your thoughts would tell Just like the film at eleven Or the things that you think you smell :lol Title: Re: Who-sings-what vocal questions Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 10, 2011, 04:01:45 AM OK guys, I thought we'd left this crap back on SDV2. Please.
Mikie, count to three, OK, four, take a deep breath and walk on. I speak as an expert in the short fuse department. Bgas, told you this in private, so maybe now it has to be in public - this obsession of yours with acting the mentally handicapped person isn't funny, never was. It pisses people off and you makes look like a dick. There aren't enough hard-core, serious BB/BW MBs that this one can take a few hits. Actually, this is pretty much it, come to think of it. In maybe two, three years, it won't matter 'cause no-one will be interested any more, but 2011 isn't the best possible year to act like grade schoolers or rejects from the casting call for Beavis & Butthead. Title: Re: Who-sings-what vocal questions Post by: bgas on January 10, 2011, 08:57:23 AM OK guys, I thought we'd left this crap back on SDV2. Please. Mikie, count to three, OK, four, take a deep breath and walk on. I speak as an expert in the short fuse department. Bgas, told you this in private, so maybe now it has to be in public - this obsession of yours with acting the mentally handicapped person isn't funny, never was. It pisses people off and you makes look like a dick. There aren't enough hard-core, serious BB/BW MBs that this one can take a few hits. Actually, this is pretty much it, come to think of it. In maybe two, three years, it won't matter 'cause no-one will be interested any more, but 2011 isn't the best possible year to act like grade schoolers or rejects from the casting call for Beavis & Butthead. Yeah, right, sure, whatever, point taken, maybe yes, maybe no, but you know what, what you see is what you get. The good comes with the bad, I post what I post, and I got no problems with Mikie, but we do cut sometimes. 2011 is just like any other year here. There's lots of god posts and there's lots of mindless rot. It comes from lots of places, yours included. Get over it and move on. Let it go and get on with posting some important information, eh. Yes, yes, I know, THE BEACH BOYS/BRI/CAPITOL/EMI are watching this board and if they don't like what they read, they're not going to release the things we want. PLEASE. That's so much twaddle. When it comes down to it they don't give a rat's ass. I want the same things released as everone, but they don't care whether I post like a mentally handicapped person, as long as I buy what they release. Title: Re: Who-sings-what vocal questions Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 10, 2011, 09:41:47 AM OK guys, I thought we'd left this crap back on SDV2. Please. Mikie, count to three, OK, four, take a deep breath and walk on. I speak as an expert in the short fuse department. Bgas, told you this in private, so maybe now it has to be in public - this obsession of yours with acting the mentally handicapped person isn't funny, never was. It pisses people off and you makes look like a dick. There aren't enough hard-core, serious BB/BW MBs that this one can take a few hits. Actually, this is pretty much it, come to think of it. In maybe two, three years, it won't matter 'cause no-one will be interested any more, but 2011 isn't the best possible year to act like grade schoolers or rejects from the casting call for Beavis & Butthead. Yeah, right, sure, whatever, point taken, maybe yes, maybe no, but you know what, what you see is what you get. The good comes with the bad, I post what I post, and I got no problems with Mikie, but we do cut sometimes. 2011 is just like any other year here. There's lots of god posts and there's lots of mindless rot. It comes from lots of places, yours included. Get over it and move on. Let it go and get on with posting some important information, eh. Yes, yes, I know, THE BEACH BOYS/BRI/CAPITOL/EMI are watching this board and if they don't like what they read, they're not going to release the things we want. PLEASE. That's so much twaddle. When it comes down to it they don't give a rat's ass. I want the same things released as everone, but they don't care whether I post like a mentally handicapped person, as long as I buy what they release. 1 - You're better than that and you know it. It's like white kids trying to be black. 2 - I want to read posts that look like the author is incarcerated in the Ronald McDonald Institute for Mental Readjustment, there are other boards I can go read. There used to be an ignore option and hell, I wish it was still here. 3 - BRI don't care about how stuff is posted (they know most BB fans are pretty dumb anyway - it comes with the territory, mine included - and that the hardcore will buy pretty much anything), just what is posted. Important difference. 'Kay, I'm done on this. Title: Re: Who-sings-what vocal questions Post by: A Million Units In Jan! on January 10, 2011, 04:17:54 PM I guess I don't understand why, if something bothers somebody this much, then just don't read the thread.
Title: Re: Who-sings-what vocal questions Post by: Mikie on January 10, 2011, 06:41:04 PM Mikie, count to three, OK, four, take a deep breath and walk on. I speak as an expert in the short fuse department. Huh?? What did I do? I didn't do anything wrong. Seems to me Mr. Doe is exaggerating a little bit here. I ain't mad at anybody. I'm as much of a hard-core fan as most here, but that doesn't mean I have to be serious as a heart attack like some people are, correct? We're just talking about The Beach Boys here, right? By the way, is it OK if I question some of the know-it-all people with egos here about their motives? Title: Re: Who-sings-what vocal questions Post by: Cliff1000uk on January 11, 2011, 09:15:23 AM A few things I've wondered for awhile: 1. Is that Dennis singing the opening wordless line of "Kiss Me Baby"? The pretty "ahhh ahhh ahhh ahhh..." line? I keep thinking it's Dennis, but then I feel like it's Brian or Mike sometimes. Anyone know? 2. Who is doing the laughing in "Punchline"? Is it the Boys themselves? The very 1st laugh you hear at 0:18 sounds so awful and forced, I can understand why this never was released on an actual album. Strangely, I think I recognize that exact laugh from an outtake/session of some sort from the Smile era, but I can't seem to recall exactly where from. 2. I'm sure I read somewhere that it's Brian doing the laughs in Punchline. Glad to be proved wrong, though! |