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Title: 2nd Warner Album Post by: Dunderhead on October 11, 2010, 05:30:56 PM According to AGD's website, the day after Sunflower was released
Sep 1 - session: master for "2nd Warner Brothers LP" prepared. The tracks on the tape (as noted on the box label) were: Loop De Loop/Susie Cincinnati/San Miguel/H.E.L.P. (as in "... Is On The Way")/Take A Load Off Your Feet/Carnival/I Just Got My Pay/Good Time/Big Sur/My Lady (= "Fallin' In Love")/When Girls Get Together/Lookin' At Tomorrow/How Deep Is The Ocean Surf's Up (= 'Til I Die minus Brian's lead). Also scrawled on the box is "GRILLO HIPE". [Artisan Sounds ?] What's the deal with this?? Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: rab2591 on October 11, 2010, 06:10:46 PM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surf's_Up_(album) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surf's_Up_(album))
Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: Runaways on October 11, 2010, 06:26:54 PM oh man i've never heard of that one!! :P
Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: Myk Luhv on October 11, 2010, 07:26:11 PM Well, that track listing certainly makes the released Surf's Up album all the more impressive!
Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: Andrew G. Doe on October 12, 2010, 01:53:29 AM According to AGD's website, the day after Sunflower was released Sep 1 - session: master for "2nd Warner Brothers LP" prepared. The tracks on the tape (as noted on the box label) were: Loop De Loop/Susie Cincinnati/San Miguel/H.E.L.P. (as in "... Is On The Way")/Take A Load Off Your Feet/Carnival/I Just Got My Pay/Good Time/Big Sur/My Lady (= "Fallin' In Love")/When Girls Get Together/Lookin' At Tomorrow/How Deep Is The Ocean Surf's Up (= 'Til I Die minus Brian's lead). Also scrawled on the box is "GRILLO HIPE". [Artisan Sounds ?] What's the deal with this?? No... according to the tape box. ;D Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: c-man on October 12, 2010, 05:18:43 AM According to AGD's website, the day after Sunflower was released Sep 1 - session: master for "2nd Warner Brothers LP" prepared. The tracks on the tape (as noted on the box label) were: Loop De Loop/Susie Cincinnati/San Miguel/H.E.L.P. (as in "... Is On The Way")/Take A Load Off Your Feet/Carnival/I Just Got My Pay/Good Time/Big Sur/My Lady (= "Fallin' In Love")/When Girls Get Together/Lookin' At Tomorrow/How Deep Is The Ocean Surf's Up (= 'Til I Die minus Brian's lead). Also scrawled on the box is "GRILLO HIPE". [Artisan Sounds ?] What's the deal with this?? The source of the legendary "Landlocked" boot, and well documented in Brad Elliott's book from 1981. A dub was made of Good Time, I Just Got My Pay, San Miguel, and this version of Til i Die, and these were played duing the Boys' appearance on WPLJ-FM in February '71. When asked by the DJ if the tape was a new album, Carl replied "You could say that some of the cuts might be on an album, but it's not a new album". In an interview with Beach Boys STOMP! years later (that screams to be posted online...hint, hint), Jack Rieley said Loop De Loop, San Miguel, Good Time, and When Girls Get Together were all intended for the second Warners album, but not HELP, Big Sur, or Fallin' In Love. Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: Sam_BFC on October 12, 2010, 01:44:53 PM What was this version of Til I Die like? Does it circulate?
Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: Andrew G. Doe on October 12, 2010, 02:17:56 PM What was this version of Til I Die like? Does it circulate? Been circulating for, oh, 25 years or more. Sounds exactly like the released version minus Brian's lead vocal bits. Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: Shane on October 12, 2010, 04:37:06 PM From the wiki article: "The album also included "'Til I Die" a song Brian had been working on for well over a year. Though Mike Love was reported at the time to dislike it, he has praised and performed the song in recent years."
Performed? Now THAT is something I'd like to see! Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: The Madcap on October 12, 2010, 06:15:41 PM From the wiki article: "The album also included "'Til I Die" a song Brian had been working on for well over a year. Though Mike Love was reported at the time to dislike it, he has praised and performed the song in recent years." Performed? Now THAT is something I'd like to see! I can hear the song in Mike's nasal voice in my head now, and i have to say it sounds bad.(that's an unfortunate ability I've developed, I can hear most songs in Mike's nasal voice in my head, yet when I try to put them into his softer, All I Wanna Do/ Aren't You Glad voice, I can't) Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: Andrew G. Doe on October 13, 2010, 12:40:16 AM From the wiki article: "The album also included "'Til I Die" a song Brian had been working on for well over a year. Though Mike Love was reported at the time to dislike it, he has praised and performed the song in recent years." Performed? Now THAT is something I'd like to see! I can hear the song in Mike's nasal voice in my head now, and i have to say it sounds bad.(that's an unfortunate ability I've developed, I can hear most songs in Mike's nasal voice in my head, yet when I try to put them into his softer, All I Wanna Do/ Aren't You Glad voice, I can't) The touring Beach Boys performance of "'Til I Die" is not only excellent and faithful (Mike doesn't take Brian's part, obviously), but also introduced by Mike in almost reverential manner. I'm sorry, but this kind of Bloo mentality - "I've not heard it, but if it's Mike it's got to be awful" - just pisses me off. I expect better of this forum (trolls excepted). Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: The Madcap on October 13, 2010, 07:45:13 AM From the wiki article: "The album also included "'Til I Die" a song Brian had been working on for well over a year. Though Mike Love was reported at the time to dislike it, he has praised and performed the song in recent years." Performed? Now THAT is something I'd like to see! I can hear the song in Mike's nasal voice in my head now, and i have to say it sounds bad.(that's an unfortunate ability I've developed, I can hear most songs in Mike's nasal voice in my head, yet when I try to put them into his softer, All I Wanna Do/ Aren't You Glad voice, I can't) The touring Beach Boys performance of "'Til I Die" is not only excellent and faithful (Mike doesn't take Brian's part, obviously), but also introduced by Mike in almost reverential manner. I'm sorry, but this kind of Bloo mentality - "I've not heard it, but if it's Mike it's got to be awful" - just pisses me off. I expect better of this forum (trolls excepted). It's nothing against Mike, I think some of his leads are great, (for example, his lead on California Girls is absolutely perfect in my opinion), it's just that i don't feel his voice would work for Til' I Die, and I don't know what the voices of the other touring Beach Boys sound like, so I can't really say if their voices would work for it. Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: Andrew G. Doe on October 13, 2010, 08:08:58 AM From the wiki article: "The album also included "'Til I Die" a song Brian had been working on for well over a year. Though Mike Love was reported at the time to dislike it, he has praised and performed the song in recent years." Performed? Now THAT is something I'd like to see! I can hear the song in Mike's nasal voice in my head now, and i have to say it sounds bad.(that's an unfortunate ability I've developed, I can hear most songs in Mike's nasal voice in my head, yet when I try to put them into his softer, All I Wanna Do/ Aren't You Glad voice, I can't) The touring Beach Boys performance of "'Til I Die" is not only excellent and faithful (Mike doesn't take Brian's part, obviously), but also introduced by Mike in almost reverential manner. I'm sorry, but this kind of Bloo mentality - "I've not heard it, but if it's Mike it's got to be awful" - just pisses me off. I expect better of this forum (trolls excepted). It's nothing against Mike, I think some of his leads are great, (for example, his lead on California Girls is absolutely perfect in my opinion), it's just that i don't feel his voice would work for Til' I Die, and I don't know what the voices of the other touring Beach Boys sound like, so I can't really say if their voices would work for it. 1 - Mike's on the original recording. Is his voice nasal there ? 2 - Why the assumption he would take the lead ? 3 - From your own statements, it's obvious you've never seen Mike & Bruce live. Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: The Madcap on October 13, 2010, 08:41:15 AM From the wiki article: "The album also included "'Til I Die" a song Brian had been working on for well over a year. Though Mike Love was reported at the time to dislike it, he has praised and performed the song in recent years." Performed? Now THAT is something I'd like to see! I can hear the song in Mike's nasal voice in my head now, and i have to say it sounds bad.(that's an unfortunate ability I've developed, I can hear most songs in Mike's nasal voice in my head, yet when I try to put them into his softer, All I Wanna Do/ Aren't You Glad voice, I can't) The touring Beach Boys performance of "'Til I Die" is not only excellent and faithful (Mike doesn't take Brian's part, obviously), but also introduced by Mike in almost reverential manner. I'm sorry, but this kind of Bloo mentality - "I've not heard it, but if it's Mike it's got to be awful" - just pisses me off. I expect better of this forum (trolls excepted). It's nothing against Mike, I think some of his leads are great, (for example, his lead on California Girls is absolutely perfect in my opinion), it's just that i don't feel his voice would work for Til' I Die, and I don't know what the voices of the other touring Beach Boys sound like, so I can't really say if their voices would work for it. 1 - Mike's on the original recording. Is his voice nasal there ? 2 - Why the assumption he would take the lead ? 3 - From your own statements, it's obvious you've never seen Mike & Bruce live. 1. no, in my mind, Mike has four different voices his nasal voice his pretty All I Wanna Do voice his bass voice he uses for vocal blends (which is what I assume he uses on Til' I Die) his Late 80s Kokomo/Summer Of Love voice (the less we say about this one the better, less because of how the voice sounds and more because he sung some of the worst songs of his career in this voice) on the studio version, he is in the blend. if he were on lead however, i picture it sounding different. in my head, i can hear the "I'm a cork on the ocean" part in his nasal voice, and the "I lost my way, hey hey hey" part in the Kokomo voice, which actually wouldn't sound nearly as bad as Kokomo it does on Kokomo (it should be pretty obvious by now that I don't like Kokomo). it just doesn't work in my mind 2. You kind of answered your own question. I've never seen them live, so I don't know much about their shows. I know Mike doesn't sing lead on everything, but because he is the person i most associate with the touring Beach Boys, he's the one it's easiest for me to picture on lead most of time. and don't think I'm biased against Mike, I do like a lot of things he did before 15 Big Ones, and it's not like Brian's never recorded any songs that were total pieces of sh*t (smart girls). Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: Mikie on October 13, 2010, 08:57:18 AM The slow (4/4) version of "Big Sur" coulda woulda shoulda been included on the '93 Good Vibrations box set. If "I Just Got My Pay" "Games People Play" and "Help Is On The Way" from that period were included, "Big Sur" should have been included. Who vetoed that sucker? That song should see the light of day some day.
Hell, even "Our Team" was on there! Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: Andrew G. Doe on October 13, 2010, 09:31:34 AM It was on my list - "Big Sur" 1970, that is.
Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: oldsurferdude on October 13, 2010, 10:06:08 AM From the wiki article: "The album also included "'Til I Die" a song Brian had been working on for well over a year. Though Mike Love was reported at the time to dislike it, he has praised and performed the song in recent years." Performed? Now THAT is something I'd like to see! I can hear the song in Mike's nasal voice in my head now, and i have to say it sounds bad.(that's an unfortunate ability I've developed, I can hear most songs in Mike's nasal voice in my head, yet when I try to put them into his softer, All I Wanna Do/ Aren't You Glad voice, I can't) The touring Beach Boys performance of "'Til I Die" is not only excellent and faithful (Mike doesn't take Brian's part, obviously), but also introduced by Mike in almost reverential manner. I'm sorry, but this kind of Bloo mentality - "I've not heard it, but if it's Mike it's got to be awful" - just pisses me off. I expect better of this forum (trolls excepted). It's nothing against Mike, I think some of his leads are great, (for example, his lead on California Girls is absolutely perfect in my opinion), it's just that i don't feel his voice would work for Til' I Die, and I don't know what the voices of the other touring Beach Boys sound like, so I can't really say if their voices would work for it. 1 - Mike's on the original recording. Is his voice nasal there ? 2 - Why the assumption he would take the lead ? 3 - From your own statements, it's obvious you've never seen Mike & Bruce live. 1. no, in my mind, Mike has four different voices his nasal voice his pretty All I Wanna Do voice his bass voice he uses for vocal blends (which is what I assume he uses on Til' I Die) his Late 80s Kokomo/Summer Of Love voice (the less we say about this one the better, less because of how the voice sounds and more because he sung some of the worst songs of his career in this voice) on the studio version, he is in the blend. if he were on lead however, i picture it sounding different. in my head, i can hear the "I'm a cork on the ocean" part in his nasal voice, and the "I lost my way, hey hey hey" part in the Kokomo voice, which actually wouldn't sound nearly as bad as Kokomo it does on Kokomo (it should be pretty obvious by now that I don't like Kokomo). it just doesn't work in my mind 2. You kind of answered your own question. I've never seen them live, so I don't know much about their shows. I know Mike doesn't sing lead on everything, but because he is the person i most associate with the touring Beach Boys, he's the one it's easiest for me to picture on lead most of time. and don't think I'm biased against Mike, I do like a lot of things he did before 15 Big Ones, and it's not like Brian's never recorded any songs that were total pieces of merda (smart girls). Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: summerinparadise.flac on October 13, 2010, 12:41:21 PM If anyone has a recording or anything of the touring groups Til I Die Piss on Me
Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: shelter on October 13, 2010, 01:51:30 PM It was on my list - "Big Sur" 1970, that is. Am I the only one who thinks that the released 3/4 version is far superior? Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: Andrew G. Doe on October 13, 2010, 01:54:09 PM It was on my list - "Big Sur" 1970, that is. Am I the only one who thinks that the released 3/4 version is far superior? As a stand-alone song, prefer the 4/4 version, but it would have stuck out like a sore thumb in the Saga. What they did there sounds much more campfire/singalong, fits better. Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: Mikie on October 13, 2010, 02:49:49 PM Am I the only one who thinks that the released 3/4 version is far superior? I'll take the unreleased 4/4 over the 3/4 version any day o' the week. Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: summerinparadise.flac on October 13, 2010, 02:59:24 PM From the wiki article: "The album also included "'Til I Die" a song Brian had been working on for well over a year. Though Mike Love was reported at the time to dislike it, he has praised and performed the song in recent years." Performed? Now THAT is something I'd like to see! I can hear the song in Mike's nasal voice in my head now, and i have to say it sounds bad.(that's an unfortunate ability I've developed, I can hear most songs in Mike's nasal voice in my head, yet when I try to put them into his softer, All I Wanna Do/ Aren't You Glad voice, I can't) The touring Beach Boys performance of "'Til I Die" is not only excellent and faithful (Mike doesn't take Brian's part, obviously), but also introduced by Mike in almost reverential manner. I'm sorry, but this kind of Bloo mentality - "I've not heard it, but if it's Mike it's got to be awful" - just pisses me off. I expect better of this forum (trolls excepted). It's nothing against Mike, I think some of his leads are great, (for example, his lead on California Girls is absolutely perfect in my opinion), it's just that i don't feel his voice would work for Til' I Die, and I don't know what the voices of the other touring Beach Boys sound like, so I can't really say if their voices would work for it. 1 - Mike's on the original recording. Is his voice nasal there ? 2 - Why the assumption he would take the lead ? 3 - From your own statements, it's obvious you've never seen Mike & Bruce live. 1. no, in my mind, Mike has four different voices his nasal voice his pretty All I Wanna Do voice his bass voice he uses for vocal blends (which is what I assume he uses on Til' I Die) his Late 80s Kokomo/Summer Of Love voice (the less we say about this one the better, less because of how the voice sounds and more because he sung some of the worst songs of his career in this voice) on the studio version, he is in the blend. if he were on lead however, i picture it sounding different. in my head, i can hear the "I'm a cork on the ocean" part in his nasal voice, and the "I lost my way, hey hey hey" part in the Kokomo voice, which actually wouldn't sound nearly as bad as Kokomo it does on Kokomo (it should be pretty obvious by now that I don't like Kokomo). it just doesn't work in my mind 2. You kind of answered your own question. I've never seen them live, so I don't know much about their shows. I know Mike doesn't sing lead on everything, but because he is the person i most associate with the touring Beach Boys, he's the one it's easiest for me to picture on lead most of time. and don't think I'm biased against Mike, I do like a lot of things he did before 15 Big Ones, and it's not like Brian's never recorded any songs that were total pieces of merda (smart girls). l we've have seen all 500 performances in any given year! Only then can you ask for permission to make a comment-and it better be positive. :p Oh come off it. Anyone with a brain knows the touring Boys of recent are great. I never saw their European tour where they played Til I Die but I know the shows would have been good because this band, Mike included, care about putting on a great show. And I'm no Mike apologist and I don't think Andrew is either. If you hate Mike that much you should find a new band to listen to. Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: cwalter on October 13, 2010, 05:22:03 PM "Oh come off it. Anyone with a brain knows the touring Boys of recent are great. I never saw their European tour where they played Til I Die but I know the shows would have been good because this band, Mike included, care about putting on a great show. And I'm no Mike apologist and I don't think Andrew is either."
--> Totally agree with that. I've been fortunate to catch Mike and Bruce several times over the past few years (including this Summer), and the band sounds FANTASTIC. They clearly care quite a bit about the music and it shows. I recommend seeing them whenever you get the chance! Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: oldsurferdude on October 13, 2010, 05:45:53 PM From the wiki article: "The album also included "'Til I Die" a song Brian had been working on for well over a year. Though Mike Love was reported at the time to dislike it, he has praised and performed the song in recent years." Performed? Now THAT is something I'd like to see! I can hear the song in Mike's nasal voice in my head now, and i have to say it sounds bad.(that's an unfortunate ability I've developed, I can hear most songs in Mike's nasal voice in my head, yet when I try to put them into his softer, All I Wanna Do/ Aren't You Glad voice, I can't) The touring Beach Boys performance of "'Til I Die" is not only excellent and faithful (Mike doesn't take Brian's part, obviously), but also introduced by Mike in almost reverential manner. I'm sorry, but this kind of Bloo mentality - "I've not heard it, but if it's Mike it's got to be awful" - just pisses me off. I expect better of this forum (trolls excepted). It's nothing against Mike, I think some of his leads are great, (for example, his lead on California Girls is absolutely perfect in my opinion), it's just that i don't feel his voice would work for Til' I Die, and I don't know what the voices of the other touring Beach Boys sound like, so I can't really say if their voices would work for it. 1 - Mike's on the original recording. Is his voice nasal there ? 2 - Why the assumption he would take the lead ? 3 - From your own statements, it's obvious you've never seen Mike & Bruce live. 1. no, in my mind, Mike has four different voices his nasal voice his pretty All I Wanna Do voice his bass voice he uses for vocal blends (which is what I assume he uses on Til' I Die) his Late 80s Kokomo/Summer Of Love voice (the less we say about this one the better, less because of how the voice sounds and more because he sung some of the worst songs of his career in this voice) on the studio version, he is in the blend. if he were on lead however, i picture it sounding different. in my head, i can hear the "I'm a cork on the ocean" part in his nasal voice, and the "I lost my way, hey hey hey" part in the Kokomo voice, which actually wouldn't sound nearly as bad as Kokomo it does on Kokomo (it should be pretty obvious by now that I don't like Kokomo). it just doesn't work in my mind 2. You kind of answered your own question. I've never seen them live, so I don't know much about their shows. I know Mike doesn't sing lead on everything, but because he is the person i most associate with the touring Beach Boys, he's the one it's easiest for me to picture on lead most of time. and don't think I'm biased against Mike, I do like a lot of things he did before 15 Big Ones, and it's not like Brian's never recorded any songs that were total pieces of merda (smart girls). l we've have seen all 500 performances in any given year! Only then can you ask for permission to make a comment-and it better be positive. :p Oh come off it. Anyone with a brain knows the touring Boys of recent are great. I never saw their European tour where they played Til I Die but I know the shows would have been good because this band, Mike included, care about putting on a great show. And I'm no Mike apologist and I don't think Andrew is either. If you hate Mike that much you should find a new band to listen to. [/quote Hey genius-you stick with your coveted Summer In Paradise bullmerda and I'll stay with Brian and his band(you know-the real deal). :tm Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: hypehat on October 14, 2010, 01:48:37 AM Sigh.
Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: Jason on October 14, 2010, 10:09:25 AM Time for me to make my comeback!
Michael and Bruce's version of 'Til I Die is pretty good. I don't know if I prefer it over Brian's live version but they do it pretty well. You have to take them as two different animals; Michael and Bruce's version is done just like on the record, Brian's version is done similarly to the "Desper mix". Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: summerinparadise.flac on October 14, 2010, 12:34:00 PM Time for me to make my comeback! Michael and Bruce's version of 'Til I Die is pretty good. I don't know if I prefer it over Brian's live version but they do it pretty well. You have to take them as two different animals; Michael and Bruce's version is done just like on the record, Brian's version is done similarly to the "Desper mix". Welcome back, mate. Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: adamghost on October 14, 2010, 12:38:05 PM I'm the farthest thing from a Mike apologist, and I've never seen Mike and Bruce live, but I have to say I have been seriously impressed with their set lists the last few years, and some of the youtubes I've seen have been top notch. Mike and Bruce's voices have their issues, but they are pushing 70 and the band is singing non-stop for 2 or 3 hours, so it's pretty amazing they do as well as they do. I know Randell Kirsch and John Cowsill slightly from playing around L.A., and they are monster musicians -- in the same league as the Wondermints for sure, and from his posts here Scott Totten clearly has his heart in the right place and has the musical chops to MD.
Part of being critical is giving credit where credit is due...and it looks like the "Beach Boys" have seriously upped their game in the last few years to me, and kudos to Mike for allowing it to happen. Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: bgas on October 14, 2010, 03:23:28 PM Time for me to make my comeback! have you been away?Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: Jason on October 15, 2010, 12:52:43 AM I'm like the flu...go away for a while, come back, bug a few folks, they leave, I go away, then I come back, bug a few more folks, they leave, I go away...
Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: bgas on October 15, 2010, 05:08:17 AM I'm like the flu...go away for a while, come back, bug a few folks, they leave, I go away, then I come back, bug a few more folks, they leave, I go away... You need to stay here a bit then... Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: Jason on October 15, 2010, 09:58:45 AM My flu-like tactics only work on Brianistas.
Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: bgas on October 15, 2010, 10:44:25 AM My flu-like tactics only work on Brianistas. Exactly. Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: Mr. Cohen on October 15, 2010, 02:57:26 PM Mike Love had the best left hand in the business.
Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: pancakerecords on October 15, 2010, 05:27:47 PM Mike Love had the best left hand in the business. Which business was that? ;) Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: bgas on October 15, 2010, 05:29:52 PM Mike Love had the best left hand in the business. Which business was that? ;) hey!! this is a family board. Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: summerinparadise.flac on October 15, 2010, 06:09:57 PM I'm like the flu...go away for a while, come back, bug a few folks, they leave, I go away, then I come back, bug a few more folks, they leave, I go away... You need to stay here a bit then... Oh and I'm the asshole? Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: punkinhead on October 15, 2010, 08:54:39 PM It was on my list - "Big Sur" 1970, that is. I've gotta see this list, can you shed some light AGD? Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: Curtis Leon on October 15, 2010, 09:34:45 PM Am I the only one who thinks that the released 3/4 version is far superior? I'll take the unreleased 4/4 over the 3/4 version any day o' the week. I like both. I think Big Sur '70 fits better as a standalone song - There's a lot of beauty in that track, very similar to the style of "All I Wanna Do". However, Big Sur '72 works better as part of the California Saga than the original ever could've. By the way, how come the Saga gets such a bad rap? It's brilliant! The final song the Beach Boys ever wrote about the Californian lifestyle without sounding like a bunch of cheesy 40 year olds Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: drbeachboy on October 16, 2010, 09:37:01 AM That's because they were late 20's and 30 year olds.
Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on October 18, 2010, 12:58:57 AM I dunno...by their mid 30s they sounded like cheesy 40 year olds...
Title: Re: 2nd Warner Album Post by: Mike's Beard on October 18, 2010, 09:45:39 AM And by their mid 30's Mike and Al resembled cheesy 50 year olds.
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